04:00
4th of June 2017
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 3 (LAN) * Lower bracket final. ** Loser eliminated in fourth place. Winner advances to the consolidation final. Chinese Stream: panda.tv/hd/csgo20170526.html
1. TYLOO removed Inferno
2. Flash removed Cache
3. TYLOO picked Mirage
4. Flash picked Train
5. Flash removed Overpass
6. TYLOO picked Cobblestone
Mirage
Mirage
TYLOO
16
(6:9; 10:3)
Flash
12
Train
Train
TYLOO
16
(11:4; 5:0)
Flash
4
Cobblestone
Cobblestone
TYLOO
-
Flash
-
Rewatch
United KingdomPGL (Map 1 - Mirage)Vod
United KingdomPGL (Map 2 - Train)Vod
RussiaSLTV (Map 1 - Mirage)Vod
RussiaSLTV (Map 2 - Train)Vod
Highlights
M1 | LOVEYY (CT - UMP) wins the 1vs1 pre-plant duel with somebody (Deagle/Famas - bombsite A)
M1 | Karsa - 3 M4A4 kills (2 HS) on the bombsite A defense
M1 | Mo - 3 AK kills (2 HS) on the bombsite A offensive
M1 | DD - 3 AK HS kills on the bombsite B offensive (vs mixed buy round)
M1 | fancy1 - quick 1vs2 UMP clutch (CT - pre-plant situation)
M1 | BnTeT (T - 1 HP - AK) wins the 1vs1 low HP post-plant duel with LOVEYY (AK - 12 HP - bombsite A)
M1 | kaze (CT) wins the 1vs2 pre-plant situation with a stunning AWP shot and the help of the round timer in the final duel (vs somebody)
M1 | DD (CT) wins the 1vs2 situation (frag wise) but fails to secure the second half pistol round for TyLoo as the bomb timer is not in their favor
M1 | AttackeR - 4 AK kills on the bombsite B offensive (including 1vs1 post-plant clutch - vs DD) to turn an initial 2vs4 situation in favor of Flash
M1 | Mo - 3 P250 HS kills on the Connecter Defense
M1 | BnTeT - 1vs2 clutch (CT - pre-plant situation) while having 39 HP in the final duel (vs kaze)
M1 | BnTeT - 3 AK kills on the bombsite B defense (2vs3 situation)
M1 | somebody - 3 quick M4A4 kills (2 HS) on the bombsite B Apartments defense (initial frags)
M2 | BnTeT - 3 USP-S HS kills on the bombsite B defense (pistol round)
M2 | fancy1 - 1vs2 clutch (T - post-plant situation) - including knife kill to deny a very close defuse attempt from HZ
M2 | fancy1 - 1vs3 clutch (T - bomb planted after 2 clutch kills) - Part 1
M2 | fancy1 - 1vs3 clutch (T - bomb planted after 2 clutch kills) - Part 2
M2 | Karsa - 1vs4 clutch (T - pre-plant situation - bomb in CT possession)
Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
49-20 +29 98.0 85.4% 1.61
41-25 +16 95.3 87.5% 1.47
44-31 +13 95.4 79.2% 1.37
41-28 +13 77.6 83.3% 1.29
29-33 -4 74.1 77.1% 1.06
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
36-41 -5 73.3 66.7% 0.99
30-40 -10 85.4 60.4% 0.89
30-43 -13 69.5 52.1% 0.78
22-40 -18 60.3 52.1% 0.67
19-41 -22 48.8 50.0% 0.49
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
27-17 +10 103.4 85.7% 1.49
27-14 +13 85.9 78.6% 1.43
25-21 +4 98.5 82.1% 1.36
23-19 +4 74.9 78.6% 1.20
11-23 -12 54.5 64.3% 0.74
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
25-20 +5 108.6 75.0% 1.30
22-26 -4 84.0 78.6% 1.10
18-21 -3 72.0 64.3% 0.93
19-24 -5 76.5 60.7% 0.88
10-22 -12 35.0 53.6% 0.52
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
22-6 +16 115.0 95.0% 1.88
18-10 +8 101.4 95.0% 1.57
14-8 +6 84.0 90.0% 1.47
18-9 +9 81.5 90.0% 1.43
19-10 +9 91.1 75.0% 1.40
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
14-15 -1 58.4 50.0% 0.87
11-19 -8 59.8 40.0% 0.64
9-19 -10 68.2 45.0% 0.50
5-20 -15 52.9 40.0% 0.38
4-19 -15 44.0 35.0% 0.37
Top player in match
Hansel 'BnTeT' Ferdinand
1.02
KPR
0.42
DPR
85.4%
KAST
1.53
Impact
98.0
ADR
1.61
Rating 2.0
Matches, past 3 months
Core
Team
No matches past 3 months
No matches past 3 months
Head to head
8
Wins
1
Overtimes
1
Wins
easy for spotnet
2017-05-26 03:27
1 reply
kaze's wrist got injuired in the last game twitter.com/kaze_cs/status/8709297475045..
2017-06-04 00:14
Ez TBA. tyloo choke
2017-06-03 07:49
1 reply
#48
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Australia WaxNWayne
Tbh this is going to be karsa strats vs bntet carry 100%. I bet bntet carries 2 hard tbh.
2017-06-03 23:59
#4
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
TyLoo vs Immunity for sure xD
2017-06-03 08:19
2 replies
#8
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
Now its TyLoo vs Flash unexpected
2017-06-03 11:15
i have info that flash want to go to lower bracket to make this matchup , hope they can pass out this version of tyloo
2017-06-03 17:49
#5
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Poland skibv
Let's go Flash!
2017-06-03 10:48
LETS GO FLASH <3
2017-06-03 11:10
#9
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China ___TyLoo___
TyLoo vs TyLoo BEST MATCH EVER
2017-06-03 11:17
ez Tyloo rip flash gaming 2-0 ez ez ez raped
2017-06-03 11:17
bntet vs Kaze
2017-06-03 11:21
KaZe vs BnTeT , the chinese is just a spec
2017-06-03 11:28
1 reply
no, but BnTeT vs 9 Bots XD
2017-06-04 00:30
#13
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North America BB^^
Ez flash
2017-06-03 11:54
Flash was supposed to be the "Asain superteam" right?
2017-06-03 12:00
3 replies
#21
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United States RecoS
"supposed"
2017-06-03 13:50
#25
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China cescy
kaze got injured in the hand on inferno so its real bad luck this time
2017-06-03 14:42
1 reply
good for tylul
2017-06-04 03:27
#16
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Faroe Islands shubaNN
DD has the best haircut in the world
2017-06-03 12:07
So , I know Tyloo is pretty good team and probably one of the best in Asia, so my question is can Flash win it?
2017-06-03 12:43
1 reply
No
2017-06-03 13:48
rip cncs
2017-06-03 12:47
#19
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North America Kyl13
ez flash BnTeT doesnt want carry tylul anymore
2017-06-03 13:47
and i thought we will have this match in upper bracket, but au cs>cn cs
2017-06-03 13:52
#23
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Mongolia capcop
Flash gonno win if kaze show up if kaze bot mode like today flash no chance Kazze was 5750$ decoy today :(
2017-06-03 14:00
#24
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United States Pbor
why must my parents fight for no reason
2017-06-03 14:27
1 reply
Maybe they got misunderstanding. U must stop them from divorce. Go haeto a sl
2017-06-04 05:21
Tyloo will absolutly dominate Flash Gaming and Imm,then revenge on RNG and go to Major qualifier.Come on Tyloo!Come on CaptianMo!Come on Bntet!Come on DD! Come on SBD!Come on Hz!
2017-06-03 14:55
#29
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United States Sacko117
Both of these teams are so over-rated. I can't wait to see one of them go out first and then the other drop to Immunity and watch all the leddit circle jerkers cry
2017-06-03 16:30
H@H@H@H@WH@H@H@H@H@H@H@WH@HH@H@H@H
2017-06-03 16:37
I know they hate each other so much So my question is...will they shake hands?
2017-06-03 18:02
Fancy1 and Attacker revenge.
2017-06-03 18:45
Kaze says on twitter he got a wrist injury during the mid round on the inferno game vs immunity. If that's the case Tyloo shouldn't have any trouble. What a pity though
2017-06-03 19:00
#35
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Ukraine Orebitt
Kaze got a wrist injury so ez tyloo?
2017-06-03 19:33
hansel lmao xDD
2017-06-03 19:34
2 replies
bro of Gretel xDD
2017-06-03 20:14
1 reply
Are you stupid? Gretels brother is called Hänsel
2017-06-04 11:53
somebody warming up flicks inc
2017-06-03 19:40
#39
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Azerbaijan djkido316
Flash to destroy TYLUL
2017-06-03 20:15
Too soon. But hopefully Flash will win this.
2017-06-03 20:15
#42
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Brunei br0ks
Attacker, fancy and loveyy to destroy, karsa might loose them the game tho
2017-06-03 21:26
ez for BnTeT
2017-06-03 21:47
bot karsa lul
2017-06-03 22:17
i'd love flash winning this cuz obv reasons :D
2017-06-03 23:14
#47
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Israel xpicyyy
ezzzzzzzz for tyloo
2017-06-03 23:19
kaze's wrist got injuired in the last game twitter.com/kaze_cs/status/8709297475045..
2017-06-04 00:14
all 10 people looks same
2017-06-04 00:36
so with all these matches in china they never actually played each other in an official match?
2017-06-04 00:38
1 reply
yes, it was 1st time they fought against each other
2017-06-04 09:04
TyLoo 2-1 win
2017-06-04 01:07
Tyloo 2-0 incoming, they wanted this and to show fancy1 and karsa that next time don't fuck with the org. Karsa should be coach not fucking player LMAO Cya @ profit
2017-06-04 01:13
Kaze Attacker fancy1 Bntet somebody top 1
2017-06-04 01:19
2 replies
-attacker +machinegun
2017-06-04 05:14
-attacker +DD
2017-06-04 15:57
Let's go BnTeT
2017-06-04 01:49
#60
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Brazil m4ri
china cs lul
2017-06-04 02:01
will kaze play today?
2017-06-04 02:32
7 replies
#62
n2g | 
United States n2g
Why wouldn't he? It's LAN
2017-06-04 02:38
6 replies
5 replies
#64
n2g | 
United States n2g
I really doubt they would play with a coach / manager instead of kaze even with a little injury
2017-06-04 02:42
4 replies
#65
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Brunei br0ks
ya, he's definitely playing. i only send this tweet bcuz im pretty sure that the guy that asked if he was playing was referring to his "injury".
2017-06-04 02:47
2 replies
I was, thanks mate
2017-06-04 03:50
1 reply
#75
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Brunei br0ks
np irmão
2017-06-04 04:01
honestly their manager is not that bad...
2017-06-04 03:41
FLASH APM IS TOO HIGH, JAEDONGLOO CANT WIN
2017-06-04 02:57
ez 4Hansel
2017-06-04 03:09
#70
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United States Pbor
KARRIGAN MAKE IT TO THE FINALS HERE
2017-06-04 03:46
Tyloo should have beaten Renegades, choked in the final few rounds Flash looked pathetic Rather have Tyloo advance
2017-06-04 03:48
#73
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United States RecoS
1 match, 8 tyloos died
2017-06-04 03:51
gl!
2017-06-04 03:54
ez karsa and Flash
2017-06-04 04:05
#77
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Germany grabke
want to see hansels rating at the Offline Qualifier :) 0-3 homesent Tyloo
2017-06-04 04:06
tyLUL is real
2017-06-04 04:10
This new overlay PGL are running remind me so much of the original CS:GO hud, lmao.
2017-06-04 04:15
#80
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Faroe Islands shubaNN
this odds for Flash lol
2017-06-04 04:15
agent bntet incoming LUL
2017-06-04 04:20
nice hud ty PGL
2017-06-04 04:23
2 replies
It has a lot of quality-of-life enhancements that the current HUD should be using, but probably won't (or can't) incorporate until some source 2 libraries are adopted. Still reminds me a bunch of the old CS:GO hud though. Edit: They probably should stick to the classic green crosshair though.
2017-06-04 04:25
1 reply
yh, green crosshair is good af for streams
2017-06-04 04:30
BnTeT please wake up
2017-06-04 04:26
urgh those jittery 500 sensivity crosshair movements zzz.
2017-06-04 04:30
#87
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Europe lnfluence
did they playing on source 2?
2017-06-04 04:30
Asian teams and anti ecos... It's ridicules.
2017-06-04 04:42
#89
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC
i dont follow the asian scene but why the odds for tyloo were so one sided lol
2017-06-04 04:42
This is going to be a close mirage instead of a 16-8 flash or something. Losing to a single p250 because asian teams don't know when to stop fighting or to go together and trade it seems, and also the next round they have a 5 on 3, control of the a site, and they don't smoke off jungle when going up connector with the bomb, it's just not going to work. Fun to watch, but sloppy as hell.
2017-06-04 04:46
1 reply
#103
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Portugal cufwipe
I call that counter strike. What u described is for tryhards who dont enjoy the game.
2017-06-04 05:04
#91
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World orlofff
BNTET E-sports
2017-06-04 04:49
kaze deadweight
2017-06-04 04:52
tyLUL 5v3 => 1v3
2017-06-04 04:53
#94
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Azerbaijan djkido316
BNTET from 0-2-6 to 25-4-14 = LUL
2017-06-04 04:54
#95
loli | 
Oceania soz1
Whoever gets the man advantage loses, this is better than real cs.
2017-06-04 04:58
BNTET shoot Kaze ass with AWP lul
2017-06-04 05:00
#97
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Asia dagamgam
kaze absolutely nothing, most like trashgaming
2017-06-04 05:01
#98
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Faroe Islands shubaNN
BnTeT too good for Asia
2017-06-04 05:02
16 replies
He's done nothing special what so ever this game lol. Stop overhyping him, it's annoying as hell.
2017-06-04 05:03
15 replies
#104
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
Done nothing? he's top fragging xD
2017-06-04 05:06
7 replies
Oh, look at that guy, he's top fragging! He is too good to play here. Yeah let's go with that logic. It was the same yesterday vs renegades on overpass. Bntet got like 10 eco frags at least on the ct side, yet people were like NIFTY VS BNTET WHAT A BATTLE! No, Nifty rekt him on having more impact. But due to having to eco so many times they obviously will give someone more frags on the enemy team. I think somebody bot fragged on that overpass game, well if he would've had those 10 frags instead, he wouldn't have gotten any shit at all. Basicly what I'm saying is that bntet is a good player but he is overhyped. He has played vs 0 really good teams, he's rekking asian players that plays rekkless, and bntet capitalizes. He's also a huge eco fragger, wheter you wan't to admit it or not, he is. So yeah, bntet is good but I saw yesterday someone wrote ''I think he should join Faze'' Are you kidding me? Like what the actual fuck, calm down, you have a player who could potentially do good in europe / na, but he could be shit as well. Stop writing like he is the best player in the world.
2017-06-04 05:12
6 replies
#119
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
Actually i was not agree too he join team like faze, i mean not today, he can join a team like FaZe if he can go to major or win any tournament..
2017-06-04 05:17
4 replies
For him to join fucking faze, he needs to go to north america, move the whole tyloo team to na and just join a team. Carry them to a torunament. Do well in that tournament but go out in groups or something. Do that like 3 times before he can join a top 20 team in the world. Carry them for a while, maybe win something. Like this is not going to happen I don't think. It's so unlikely. He can't just randomly join a good team, no top team would ever just bring him in. He isn't going to just randomly show up in a top team. He could probably join a good team if he keeps doing well for like a year or two, but he needs international lans and be willing to move to NA. Go from NA to any top 15 team and move on. He won't join faze, that's it. Maybe he will join a good team in 1-2 years, but yeah, not soon.
2017-06-04 05:23
3 replies
#135
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
xD
2017-06-04 05:47
Listen. He always top frag most of tyloo 90% matches and hes much BETTER THAN TYLOO, FLASH, VICI players. So stop joking
2017-06-04 06:02
1 reply
So you actually belive he could join faze? Guess that's what you feel when you have 1 good player from your country, lul. He's a good player, yes. Is he overrated? Yes. Stop dreaming, wanna make a bet? He won't join any top 10 team in 2-3 years. Deal?
2017-06-04 06:04
lol dat 10 frags also include the kill when renegades did forcebuy (pistol+armor) not only eco, and yet again u denied the fact that if not BnTeT doing his job, Tyloo would lose very hard on overpass ( double kill, triple kill in gun round) and i do agree with you about BnTeT joining FaZe, no chance for him to join faze if hes not going to play in NA/EU, okay hes best player in asia rn, but slightly overhyped. If he move to NA/EU to play with english team and proof himself, i think seeing him joining faze isnt a miracle. so the first chance come rn, if tyloo can get themselves in the major qualifier, and BnTeT doing well against t2 EU and NA, lets see what happen :D
2017-06-04 06:36
this guy so envy lolololol
2017-06-04 05:06
1 reply
Envy? Do you think I'm envying an asian csgo player who gets alot of eco frags, no, sorry.
2017-06-04 05:13
flusha papa loves you <3 dont envy with bntet fans
2017-06-04 05:10
2 replies
It's funny though, they actually believe he is the best player in the world. It's such a dumb thing to even think lol.
2017-06-04 05:14
1 reply
#159
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Indonesia fhmifu
too much hype for him... if tyloo get the qualifier, let see the truth are BnTeT capable against europe tier 1 or not
2017-06-04 06:49
sup sweden
2017-06-04 05:49
1 reply
yo
2017-06-04 06:05
#99
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Azerbaijan djkido316
11-6 > 12-16 = LUL Flash
2017-06-04 05:02
FLASH LMAO
2017-06-04 05:03
#102
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Indonesia DezfanzeR
hope tyloo win so that they can rekt aussie power (who carried by mongolian) xD
2017-06-04 05:04
Flash actually suck, lost so many damn rounds that had...........
2017-06-04 05:07
Ok, that's a way to throw away a map lol. 11-6, lose vs a single p250 due to not backing off when needed to (typical asian cs mentality) Lose two 5 v 3:s due to not using smokes. Add to that a 4 v 3 because no one is watching ct when the guy is planting, instead of watching out, a member of flash decided to run back to palace. And to top it off, we have the famous asian forcebuying. This was at the level of Gplay in 2014 / 2015 lol. For the last 4 rounds, they had 4 forcebuys and lost every single one. Flash don't know how to close a game, was the same against immunity, walking into Mo all the time, not smoking spots, not trading etc etc, the list goes on. WP tyloo, winning mirage was kinda expected but still they win off of winning crazy ass rounds, it was a worse performance than yesterday from their side. Watching chinese cs is fun, but as a spectator incredibly frustrating. Tyloo also made some huge mistakes, difference was that there was at least less of them, compared to the 3 or 4 every round from flash on their t half.
2017-06-04 05:07
3 replies
yup dumb team full of fire power no team work no structure -we0gf EJGWGEGJHK GNWE i regret spending my last 20 on them :/
2017-06-04 05:08
Haha the fact that you wrote this shit. Tyloo so fucking good, bntet such a god you guys dont have shit on tyloo TIAN LU JIA THE SPIRIT OF HONG XIUZHU THE ONLY PERSON IN THE NIGHT TYLOO #TYLOOTOP1
2017-06-04 05:15
1 reply
Yeah Tyloo is such a great team, just look at their international results, oh wait, there aren't any.
2017-06-04 05:16
#109
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Brunei br0ks
Idk why they even have karsa, that map finale was terrible. Some people forcing and others ecoing, always the same strat (that only worked in the pistol) dunno if flash even plays mirage but that t side was awful to watch lol
2017-06-04 05:09
5 replies
I was hoping for Savage to join this team... Or zhoking. Imagine having Kaze and Savage on the double awp, no asian team would match it. Though I think this team could work, they're good friends it seems. They need this win to get better though, as theywill practice a lot for the major qualifier if they do.
2017-06-04 05:16
4 replies
tb is better, savage is overrated
2017-06-04 05:21
3 replies
I think Savage is good, and I don't overrate him. He is a good awper, decent rifler and a veteran in the scene. I'm not going to say he is a top 10 awper or some bullshit, just state the facts, not more nor less.
2017-06-04 05:24
Savage has always been good. He's more a clutch player and hes better than tb.
2017-06-04 05:37
lul tb is better than svg ? then why vici decided to make tb as coach and didnt kick freeman ? cause he is worse than free man . btw why did vici bring back him ? cause tb and svg is best friend and vici need better awper so they brought back savage and tb as a bait lul
2017-06-04 06:02
flash on train top lul meigh8
2017-06-04 05:10
#120
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North America Kyl13
train is BnTeT best map isnt it?
2017-06-04 05:19
1 reply
every map is bntet's best map
2017-06-04 05:23
Summer? killed HZ- with knife_t Summer? killed captainMo. with galilar
2017-06-04 05:27
#127
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Faroe Islands shubaNNN
kaze overrated piece of shit
2017-06-04 05:34
get man advantage lose round CN CS LUL
2017-06-04 05:35
Round over - Winner: T (2-6) - Enemy eliminated Summer? killed DDCRZ with m4a1 (headshot) Summer? planted the bomb (1on1) Summer? killed BnTeT with m4a1 Summer? killed captainMo. with ump45 captainMo. killed kaze` with awp kaze` killed HZ- with awp DDCRZ killed Attacker1 with m4a1_silencer DDCRZ killed LOVEYY??TV with m4a1_silencer LOVEYY??TV killed SOMEBODYxD` with galilar (headshot) SOMEBODYxD` killed Karsamzing with ump45 (headshot) Round started
2017-06-04 05:36
#130
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North America Kyl13
OMG fancy is sick -HZ +fancy tyloo will great
2017-06-04 05:37
2 replies
Do you know why fancy build new team mate ? XD
2017-06-04 06:02
#149
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Europe lnfluence
ez TOP 10 World
2017-06-04 06:02
#132
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China cescy
flash playing pugs
2017-06-04 05:41
Round over - Winner: T (4-9) - Enemy eliminated Karsamzing killed BnTeT with m4a1 (headshot) Karsamzing killed SOMEBODYxD` with m4a1 Karsamzing killed DDCRZ with m4a1 Karsamzing killed captainMo. with m4a1 (headshot) DDCRZ killed Summer? with m4a1 Summer? killed HZ- with ak47 captainMo. killed kaze` with awp DDCRZ killed Attacker1 with m4a1 (headshot) BnTeT killed LOVEYY??TV with awp Round started ?????????????????????
2017-06-04 05:46
peek 1 by 1 losing aim duels to karsa lmao ty LUL
2017-06-04 05:46
1 reply
They still lose lul
2017-06-04 05:53
this team is such a joke
2017-06-04 05:54
6 replies
nt NA
2017-06-04 05:56
5 replies
u got Maniac and he isnt even in a top tier team NT
2017-06-04 18:00
4 replies
irrelevant... sigh nt tho
2017-06-04 18:46
3 replies
then dont say nt NA nt Med Kit
2017-06-05 01:57
2 replies
"A first aid kit is a collection of supplies and equipment that is used to give medical treatment." k
2017-06-05 02:50
1 reply
its a meme jesus
2017-06-05 03:13
karsa won 1v4 clutch clutch and he has 4 kills whole map LUL
2017-06-04 05:56
2 replies
impact frags only LUL
2017-06-04 05:57
#144
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Asia 42gami
9 kaze has 4 kills
2017-06-04 05:58
ez for tyloo bntet consistent af
2017-06-04 05:58
wp BnTeT and Tyloo. but after all you gotta say that Chinese cs is pretty dumb since its just running around and going for aim duels with dem high senses
2017-06-04 05:57
ez TyLol
2017-06-04 05:59
Tyloo clearly was the better team if you watched the game, to many mistakes from Flash. If they'd won mirage, I still think they would've lost train and third map just a pure 5050. But throwing away mirage was their downfall, no major for fancy :(
2017-06-04 06:02
5 replies
Tyloo's talent and experience just overwhelmed Flash, I don't think Flash has the firepower to compete with them tbh especially after watching this series. And unsurprisingly, the only person who showed up on flash was fancy1, who used to be a core Tyloo player. Maybe have to replace karsa/kaze, loveyy looked lackluster too but I know he was decent on VG cyberzen. Don't know why they didn't get the best players in cyberzen in zhoking/savage instead, and karsa should go back to coach he has never shown that he can keep up in game in terms of fragging even among Chinese competition. Although it's probably difficult for him to swallow that because the reason the whole split happened was because fancy1 wanted to replace captainMo with karsa and have karsa IGL (prior to this, fancy1 was IGLing for Tyloo. after the split between Tyloo and ex-Tyloo [which became Flash Gaming] DD became IGL for a while for Tyloo, which saw a drop in his performance, and now captainMo has taken over the IGLing role which has brought DD back to par but mo himself has fallen off a bit now). Meanwhile Tyloo upgraded their roster with Asia's best superstar, BnTeT, I think if they play longer together and build more chemistry they might finally have a roster that can stand a real chance internationally; they have the tools and firepower now but I think they are a bit shaky still and their tactics is a bit iffy and captainMo needs to show he can go back to his previous form WHILE IGLing.
2017-06-04 06:13
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The one thing that will be tyloos downfall no matter what is still living in china. In china they will be able to run over everyone almost, just shoot, play aggressive, pracc against teams who does the same. This won't work, it just won't. When they will meet a solid HellRaisers or Mousesports for example, they will get rekt. Not only in the duels, because I think they're still behind europeans in that, but also in strategy. They will belive that yeah let's take the aim duels, and even if they would win a couple, they would just get shut down by a solid offense / defense. Their only chance to become good internationally, and this goes for any chinese team, is to move to europe. Learn english, learn to compete. Belive it or not, Immunity has a great chance to beat them right now because in AU they still have the EU mindset. Play it properly you know. But let's pretend they move to europe and practice. No matter how you put it, these guys are still not as good as the europeans in aiming. Sure they look incredible on these games, but what when a really good awper or a sick rifler just goes off on them, they won't be able to compete. So start off by adjusting playstyle, move to Europe, learn english to be able to communicate with other teams for help etc. And just practice that raw aim, the only guys from China that I've seen has had solid and good enough firepower / aim to compete at the top 20 range right now is fancy1 and Bntet. Bntet is still overrated, but he has a great rifle. Everyone else has good snap aim and such, but it won't matter when you are out of position, flashed or even taking a raw duel. The top teams in EU is still sharper there.
2017-06-04 06:18
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Nah, in terms of raw aim and mechanical skill, current Tyloo roster has the best raw aim in all of asian scene in BnTeT, SOMEBODY, and DD. Fancy1's mechanical skills is not even as good as SOMEBODY's or DD's but he plays smart and usually can pick people off well, SOMEBODY literally gets by on his aim and instincts and still is successful vs EU teams and is a force to beat (and is the secondary star to BnTeT on Tyloo) but DD likes to play like a braindead aim dueling chicken alot, DD relys way too much on his aim. Luckily, SOMEBODY also has good game sense and seems to always be in the right position at the right time and catching people out of position while DD/HZ (and Attacker as well before, but attacker's aim was very shaky and inconsistent, the worst raw aimer out of the old Tyloo teams) are the opposite and are constantly caught out and doing stupid shit and die before they can even shoot If they still had fancy1, that's just a cherry on top, but internationally he was the worst out of the previous Tyloo roster, and captainMo (with his awp) and SOMEBODY was their best players internationally. DD's raw aim is good but he's inconsistent and does stupid shit sometimes (because he is used to entry alot so he has that kind of mindset). Tbh even HZ (a 1.6 veteran) has extremely good raw aim (which is why Tyloo picked him up, he just wrecks faces in the China scene just based on his aim) but for some reason he can never utilize it, he's a bit like shroud in that manner, has all the mechanical skill but can't put it together. Watch HZ's demo from WESG and you can see in terms of aim wise he's insane and always win his duels even vs EU, but the problem is he's always caught out of position or doing the wrong thing at the wrong time and usually dies before he can take the aim duel against better EU opponents most of the time. His aim is not the problem, it's his game sense and his positioning and decisions (if you saw WESG, he show flashes of his great aim but you can see alot of his flaws too, I don't know if he fixed them or if he was just having trouble meshing with the team since it was his first lan with them). Same can be said for DD.
2017-06-04 06:43
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Ummm what this guy said^
2017-06-04 06:51
That's your opinion on the players and their skill set, sure. But look at it from my perspective. Their playstyle is waaay to aggressive for a contenter for top 10, it won't happen. Look, lets say they're playing MouseSports in a elimination bo1. When stuff starts going wrong for tyloo, they won't know what to do. A double awp from 2 good awpers and with a proper defense will decimate tyloos t side and this has shown many times. Ropz, Zer0, deadfox, valde, niko (danish) anyone really with a decent AK or awp will outplay these guys. It doesn't work to play like they do here in china. Their only advantage when going in to a game is the unknown factor. If they actually would like to become a great team, they can't stay in china. Sure the qualifiers and stuff are easier, but that won't make you a better team. The mechanical skill is still high, but it's not as high as peple make it out to be. Sure thing they can shoot, but like I said, Ropz, zer0, k0nfig etc etc has an even better rifle in my opinion. People base their aim on their performances mostly in china, fair enough. But we have seen it so many times, tyloo wins some game in a internationall game, but gets decimated in the next one. If their mechanics were so much better, they would run over teams like flipside, HR, Tricked, heroic, c9, liquid etc. But they havn't done that. Their aim isn't superior to every european team, but people likes to think so because it's always been a chinese thing, shoot hard. But in my opinion the tyloo guys just doesn't. Bntet can contend for sure, Mo's awp can be good, on a good day. Somebody and isn't the players I've been focusing much on these years, so can't really say anything about them. HZ is a good aimer, I admit that, maybe the sharpest one on tyloo after bntet, if we're going to talk raw aim. The thing is, moving to europe would gain them so much. Exposure, help from experienced teams, better prac, real pracc, downfall, which is to realize they have to change up something, adjust to the EU playstyle to some extent but keep their aggressive stance. This is all my opinion and what I've gathered from this Tyloo lineup. But as we saw vs renegades, they didn't shoot harder than them. Nifty was the best player on the server and renegades had equal if not better aiming overall. They need a change up in playstyle to being able to eventually compete for playoffs in internainal torunaments.
2017-06-04 07:22
bntet frist 7 round = 0 kill but finish the game with 27 kill and top frag
2017-06-04 06:08
wp bntet
2017-06-04 06:28
flash overhyped by retards XD
2017-06-04 08:20
rofl flash trash
2017-06-05 07:11
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