23:20
17th of July 2017
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 1 (LAN) * Swiss round 2 (teams with a 1-0 record)
1. fnatic removed Nuke
2. fnatic removed Train
3. Virtus.pro removed Inferno
4. Virtus.pro removed Mirage
5. Virtus.pro removed Overpass
6. fnatic removed Cobblestone
7. Cache was left over
Cache
16:11 (12:3; 4:8)
Rewatch
United KingdomPGL (Pre-Match Analysis)Vod
United KingdomPGLVod
United KingdomPGL (Post-Match Analysis)Vod
United KingdomPGL (Post-Match Interview with TaZ)Vod
RussiaSLTVVod
Highlights
NEO 3k on the defense
byali and NEO get two kills each to stop the streak
byali and NEO get two kills each to stop the streakk
olofmeister 3k on the defense
dennis 3k on the retake
dennis 3k in the second pistol round
byali 3k to close out the half
pashaBiceps defends the site with a 3k
pashaBiceps snipes down three on the defense
byali (3k) and pashaBiceps (2k) holds the line
NEO 3k to earn map point
Match stats
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Poland
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
byali
25-15 +10 93.9 85.2% 1.47
Poland
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
pashaBiceps
25-18 +7 94.9 88.9% 1.43
Poland
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
NEO
24-14 +10 86.8 77.8% 1.33
Poland
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
TaZ
18-19 -1 80.0 81.5% 1.16
Poland
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Snax
15-16 -1 59.0 74.1% 1.05
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Sweden
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
dennis
23-22 +1 90.4 63.0% 1.23
Sweden
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
olofmeister
16-21 -5 76.9 59.3% 0.90
Sweden
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
JW
18-23 -5 61.6 70.4% 0.80
Sweden
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
flusha
14-20 -6 68.3 63.0% 0.77
Sweden
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
KRIMZ
11-21 -10 51.5 55.6% 0.68
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Poland
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
byali
25-15 +10 93.9 85.2% 1.47
Poland
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
pashaBiceps
25-18 +7 94.9 88.9% 1.43
Poland
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
NEO
24-14 +10 86.8 77.8% 1.33
Poland
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
TaZ
18-19 -1 80.0 81.5% 1.16
Poland
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Snax
15-16 -1 59.0 74.1% 1.05
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Sweden
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
dennis
23-22 +1 90.4 63.0% 1.23
Sweden
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
olofmeister
16-21 -5 76.9 59.3% 0.90
Sweden
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
JW
18-23 -5 61.6 70.4% 0.80
Sweden
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
flusha
14-20 -6 68.3 63.0% 0.77
Sweden
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
KRIMZ
11-21 -10 51.5 55.6% 0.68
Player of the matchwon with 67.7% of the votes
Head to head
34
Wins
9
Overtimes
60
Wins
10/5 17 ECS Season 3 Europe
mrg
Mirage
9 - 16
10/5 17 ECS Season 3 Europe
inf
Inferno
15 - 19
7/4 17 SL i-League StarSeries Season 3 Finals
inf
Inferno
2 - 16
15/3 17 ESL Pro League Season 5 Europe
mrg
Mirage
16 - 5
15/3 17 ESL Pro League Season 5 Europe
trn
Train
2 - 16
17/2 17 DreamHack Masters Las Vegas 2017
cbl
Cobblestone
16 - 2
17/2 17 DreamHack Masters Las Vegas 2017
mrg
Mirage
16 - 9
15/8 16 ESL Pro League Season 4 - Europe Wild Card
cch
Cache
16 - 12
15/8 16 ESL Pro League Season 4 - Europe Wild Card
cbl
Cobblestone
16 - 11
31/7 16 ELEAGUE Season 1
mrg
Mirage
16 - 8
31/7 16 ELEAGUE Season 1
cbl
Cobblestone
16 - 10
Show all head to heads
FAZEUP
2017-07-05 13:20
#2
 | 
Other TYZ4 
Ez for VP or F3
2017-07-08 13:36
Ez for F3 or VP
2017-07-16 23:08
#8
 | 
Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Mouz - FaZe for sure.
2017-07-17 00:26
#16
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Close. Wrong time slot :/ I have no idea what to expect from VP and Fnatic. It should become a really good match.
2017-07-17 00:37
ez vp
2017-07-17 16:08
#211
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Greenland kidkiller69 
ez fnatic u mean
2017-07-17 21:39
#212
 | 
Greenland kidkiller69 
+1
2017-07-17 21:39
#213
 | 
Greenland kidkiller69 
i agree
2017-07-17 21:40
I don't
2017-07-17 23:34
#195
JW | 
Sweden 2EZ4JW 
both going to lose to fnatic would of expected that match in 0-1
2017-07-17 17:39
#503
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Lithuania Pinnacle 
Fucking Krimz
2017-07-18 00:22
#3
 | 
Norway rogueplayer 
C9 vs FaZe, you heard it first here
2017-07-08 13:39
fazedown
2017-07-08 13:39
#5
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United Kingdom Asfatazta 
EZ for the best player in the world Nikola "NiKo" Kovac
2017-07-16 19:25
#242
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Germany P3tR 
Hahahahhahahahahah he got fucked by god denis r/the_denis too stronk
2017-07-17 23:06
#6
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Serbia quartzSRB 
EZ 4 JWonderchild GODolof dennismonster Senor Vac KRiMZSnus #AlwaysFnatic
2017-07-16 20:56
#533
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World eksDee_ 
nt
2017-07-18 10:55
vp vs fnatic :)
2017-07-17 00:33
papa 30bombs
2017-07-17 00:33
Nice match, I'd be happy either way, but fnatic if I had to choose ofc.
2017-07-17 00:34
Map mirage/train ?
2017-07-17 00:35
#13
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Serbia ThePaja 
LETS GO FNATIC! #FNCWIN
2017-07-17 00:35
ez for vp
2017-07-17 00:36
#15
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Norway TDK Em1L 
IMMMM SOO HAPPPY that fnatic gets this EZZZZZZZZ matchup in the second round cuz I have them for my 3-0 pick ems #RunFnatic #FlawlessGroupStage #ThisMajorIsYours #PogChamp #AlwaysFnatic
2017-07-17 00:36
#21
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CIS Merlas_mtk 
nt
2017-07-17 00:37
nt
2017-07-17 00:56
nt
2017-07-17 01:08
#95
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Turkey darkh1ous 
nt
2017-07-17 01:10
#140
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World jOkeNN1337 
nt cu later
2017-07-17 07:49
says someone with a cloud 9 logo, LMFAO cute
2017-07-17 14:41
#244
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Greenland kidkiller69 
cute wtf but +1
2017-07-17 23:07
LUL FNATIC IN 2017 LUL
2017-07-17 23:55
#17
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Poland milymilosz 
omg i worried before draw but now im calm #ezvp #hitauronarena
2017-07-17 00:37
Virtus.plow will ruin fnatic.
2017-07-17 00:37
best joke ive heard all day this will be a piece of cake for fnatic
2017-07-17 00:43
we will see my swedish friend
2017-07-17 00:57
both teams so bad atm that they might end up with a double-sided loss :D
2017-07-17 05:39
#147
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Sweden Empiryk 
vp fnatic > sk
2017-07-17 08:38
piece of cake..
2017-07-17 23:56
#490
Zeus | 
Germany Tunio 
Lul
2017-07-18 00:16
#20
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
2017-07-17 00:37
#23
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
that was when vp was propably the best team in the world and fnatic sucked as fuck. Tomorrow we will se equal match
2017-07-17 00:41
#27
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
yes i cant wait longer for JW post match interview where he finally shoutup this bald BOT and show his place in competive scene
2017-07-17 00:47
#34
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Sweden PotatoesBRain 
<3 TaZ ?????
2017-07-17 00:46
Its Taz
2017-07-17 00:47
#40
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Sweden PotatoesBRain 
lmfao xD then okay
2017-07-17 00:47
VP best team ? Hahahaha fluking one event doesnt make them 'best'
2017-07-17 00:47
fluking? show us your real flag faker
2017-07-17 00:49
_Every_ sane human realizes that VP is a fluke team :D They are disgrace to esport and Poland.
2017-07-17 00:50
so are you lul
2017-07-17 00:53
Comes from a 680k userid hahahhahahaha Kid you know nothing about the scene
2017-07-17 00:54
comes from an 31 years grandpa who acts like an child. thats much better obviously. i do know more about the scene than you'll ever know. being proud to be here since 2008? you had a depressed life for sure
2017-07-17 00:57
Respect oldfags...
2017-07-17 17:58
#64
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
before dh lv they almost won major against astralis and in next big event they smashed astralis like kids. Can't i say vp were the best team in the world after dh lv ?
2017-07-17 00:55
After DH LV they went out in groups in katowice and starladder. Clearly the best team...
2017-07-17 00:57
#81
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
you retarded ? yes they went out in groups in katowice and starladder (same as SK) but you can't disagree they were best team in the world after dh lv
2017-07-17 01:00
no you cant lol Astralis got semis in IEM Oakland, won ECS S2, won the MAJOR and then got 2nd at DH LV. They were CLEARLY better.
2017-07-17 00:59
#87
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
2nd at dh lv was SK retarded german VP got final in ESL NY, won EL S1, almost won the major and then got 1st at dh lv can't i lol?
2017-07-17 01:05
Sorry, my mistake. ESL NY was in September, EL S1 in fucking July lol.
2017-07-17 01:07
#98
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
who cares ? still big titles
2017-07-17 01:10
Yes but a title six months ago has no relevance lol.
2017-07-17 01:13
#109
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
so why you picking titles from 2016 at all. We should talk about 2017? am i wrong ? You can say astralis was the best at the end of 2016 but why you bring titles to next year.
2017-07-17 01:20
DH LV was in Feb 2017. We should take the titles of the last three months (Nov 16'-Feb 16') to see who is the best and that was Astralis.
2017-07-17 01:20
#114
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Poland Karmowski 
*Nov 16'-Feb 16'- 4 months, what ever. how can u talk about IEM Oakland and ECS S2 where they didn't play each other. Ok. on EL S1 and ESL One NY they didn't to so that is why i want talk about 2017 because they played each other many times in huge stages
2017-07-17 01:27
How is it Astralis fault that VP didnt attend tournaments to that time? I just saw Astralis winning events.
2017-07-17 01:28
#116
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
it's not astralis fault but you can't compare this two teams if they didn't play each other
2017-07-17 01:30
#117
 | 
Poland Karmowski 
On ESL NY and EL S1 both were at same tournament but they didn't had opportunity to play each other. Maybe wait for end of groupstage and playoffs and everything will be explained ?
2017-07-17 01:34
#143
 | 
Poland morosek 
Yes, he can
2017-07-17 08:10
Virtus.pro best team in the world LOL. Astralis was clearly #1. Also fnatic just came back together when they got beaten by VP. This match wont be equal at all.
2017-07-17 00:48
Astralis was cleary #1 luuul. Thats why VP destroyed them.
2017-07-17 00:49
They got lucky in one bo3. We saw what happened at the major and after fluke Las Vegas.
2017-07-17 00:50
they got lucky one in bo3. We saw what happend at Las Vegas. VP destroyed Astralis in Las Vegas and made Astralis win in Atlanta, because they've lost the game on Train. you cancer kid
2017-07-17 00:53
Yeah right Virtus.pro lost in Atlanta just to let Astralis be major champions :D Stop being so delusional. Virtus.pro is just a fluke team and Astralis was always better than them.
2017-07-17 00:54
I agree. CLASH FOR CASH proved it.
2017-07-17 00:54
I never said that. VP was 13-7 up sorry obviously VP lost the game more than astralis won it lul. Astralis that team that couldn't make it out of groups in 2016 and oftenly chocked in the playoffs? lul those were never better than VP. maybe in this period
2017-07-17 00:56
MLG Columbus 2016: Astralis semis ESL One Cologne 2016: Astralis quarters you were saying ?
2017-07-17 00:58
MLG Columbus 2016: VP Only team that has took a Map away from LG in Quarter Finals ESL One Colonge: Astralis lost 2-0 vs Virtus Pro in the QF so shut up
2017-07-17 00:59
VP barely beat Astralis who had 2 standins hahahahahaha
2017-07-17 01:00
VP barely beat Astralis, who had 2 standins hahahahah That one Standin is the reason for their former success as an igl and the other as their coach. VP won 2-0 that is the only thing that matters. but probably too much dust in your head, due your age
2017-07-17 01:03
This is the most deluded statement I read this week. Congratz.
2017-07-17 01:06
that is not delusional. that is pure fact nothing else. You simply don't understand the meaning of delusional. so stop using it.
2017-07-17 01:09
"That one Standin is the reason for their former success as an igl" Wtf has gla1ve to do with that? "and the other as their coach" YES IT WAS THEIR FUCKING COACH DO YOU SERIOUSLY EXPECT FROM ASTRALIS TO WIN WITH A FUCKING STAND IN AND THEIR FUCKING COACH WHO DIDNT PLAY PRO CS FOR A LONG TIME A BO3 AGAINST A TOP 4 TEAM?
2017-07-17 01:11
so now VP was a top 4 for you back then?!
2017-07-17 01:14
During ESL One Cologne 2016 Virtus.pro was a top 4 team. I also never said they werent a top 4 team during DH LV. I just said Astralis was better in the winter of 2016/17 which is a fact.
2017-07-17 01:16
how can you say that lul? IEM Oakland VP didn't attend their, ECS they were not qualified, awful online team. the only tournament Astralis played while VP did was ELEAGUE Season2. Astralis second place, VP lost to an close BO3 vs FaZe in their the quarter finals. thats it. so you can't say that so easily because Astralis and VP only attended to one same tournament at that time. in end 2016. begin 2k17 they've the same results. after VP's last Vegas win they started to suck and Astralis played since then better than VP
2017-07-17 01:24
You said Astralis didnt make it out of groups in 2016. I just disproved you that. It doesnt matter anyway as Astralis was/is clearly the better team from April 2015 - April 2016 and November 2016 - today ;)
2017-07-17 01:02
I said oftenly learn 2 read.
2017-07-17 01:04
"Astralis that team that couldn't make it out of groups in 2016"
2017-07-17 01:05
"and oftenly chocked in the playoffs?" have you ever heard of subordinate clause?
2017-07-17 01:07
That makes no sense at all. Then it has to be "Astralis that team that OFTENLY couldn't make it out of groups in 2016 and chocked in the playoffs?".
2017-07-17 01:09
that obviously makes sense. you simply didn't understand that. I couldn't use an comma since it was not an enumeration.
2017-07-17 01:11
+1
2017-07-17 23:58
#138
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Germany FazeTheFakUP 
I think u should quit hltv retard, act a smart one but can't hold the fact that VP were better than Astralis, lul.
2017-07-17 07:16
>calls me a retard >thinks VP was better than Astralis Pick one
2017-07-17 09:10
vp are not better than astralis , vp are literally playing mm style and hope for their nidividuals to step up , just watch the games. astralis has at least 2 levels above vp in terms of depth
2017-07-18 00:00
#415
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Germany FazeTheFakUP 
>VP were better than Astralis >vp are not better than astralis pick one (btw it "is")
2017-07-18 00:00
were or are , still legit , dont act like a clown.
2017-07-18 00:01
#426
 | 
Germany FazeTheFakUP 
you are the one who act like a clown and retard nearly
2017-07-18 00:03
you are deluded but nvm.
2017-07-18 00:05
#22
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Poland Happynene 
VIRTUSZ.PLOW!!!
2017-07-17 00:37
#24
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Turkey powergs 
RIP FNATIC
2017-07-17 00:41
#25
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Turkey melgo 
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer Dennis 'dennis' Edman Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson #RUNFNC
2017-07-17 00:41
#52
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Lithuania bronte 
rip fnc
2017-07-17 00:50
#26
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Poland moxley 
EZ FOR VP
2017-07-17 00:42
I aren't think that
2017-07-17 00:44
#33
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Poland moxley 
WE WILL SEE MY FRIEND... PASZA BICEPZ 40 BOMBS INC
2017-07-17 00:45
when you see these two names playing and get hyped but then realize it's 2017 and not 2015 anymore :(
2017-07-17 00:42
Agreed even tho fnatic and vp are starting to show up on this major
2017-07-17 00:47
will be a stomp (16-3/16-4) for either team
2017-07-17 00:44
ez 4 fnatic. Probably the best team they could have drawn from the 1-0 pool lol. This vp matchup will be a piece of cake. Really what did vp do? Beat some terrible ruski team on their best map lol
2017-07-17 00:44
VP has met fnatic 4 times on a lan and VP destroyed them 4 times. VP will do that tomorrow aswell maybe ;-)
2017-07-17 00:47
we will see my friend :) btw I do support vp whenever they play SK or Astralis <3 Biceps love gl to both teams
2017-07-17 00:49
thats nice. and i am also supporting fnatic when they play against SK, FaZe and Astralis.^^ hope we'll see a good match and both qualifying for the playoffs. Krakow needs them :-)
2017-07-17 00:51
Yeah VP always destroys fnatic on lan! hltv.org/matches/2309420/virtuspro-vs-fn..
2017-07-17 00:52
have I said always? you should learn to read men. 4/5 VP has beaten fnatic comfortably
2017-07-17 01:10
What are these other 4 matches? Do you mean the four maps in the bo3s in EL S1 and DH LV? The last lan with that lineup and the first lan with that lineup? kden.
2017-07-17 01:15
yes is that my fault that VP hasn't met fnatic since while on lan (except of starladder) so I obviously counting the last 5 Games (on lan!) that they played against each other.
2017-07-17 01:17
Yeah and we all know that lan matches almost 12 months ago have much relevance today! Why the fuck am I still talking to someone like you?
2017-07-17 01:19
Did i ever mentioned that this plays a role for the laters matchup? No I didn't. i simply wrote that as an fact.
2017-07-17 01:26
=DD
2017-07-17 02:40
My friend it shows up there the recent events between both teams and fantic have won vp all the most recent ones
2017-07-17 15:52
ez papa
2017-07-17 00:46
#42
 | 
Turkey nathaa 
don't fuk with papa
2017-07-17 00:49
Old dogs clash
2017-07-17 00:46
VP's ban: Cache, Inferno Fnatic's ban: Nuke, Train, Cobble VP's ban: Overpass Mirage will be played for sure
2017-07-17 00:48
Mirage or Overpass. I expect Mirage still. Ah, I don't think Cobble will be banned by Fnatic tho. COBBLE + MIRAGE 80% OVERPASS 18% DUST3 2%
2017-07-17 00:52
Why should VP ban cobble :-) fnatic hasn't played cobble for a long-period.
2017-07-17 00:54
That's why, Fnatic like to surprise, like they did with Nuke. Cobble has always been a good map for them, recently played like never, but they practiced it a lot. Would like to see it, only if they win LUL
2017-07-17 00:56
would be stupid from fnatic to ban Overpass instead of Cbble against VP to be honest :-)
2017-07-17 01:06
they ban cobble for sure
2017-07-17 00:55
Yes, Vp most prob can ban cobble ez.
2017-07-17 00:56
no, fnatic will ban
2017-07-17 00:57
Mirage/Overpass
2017-07-17 00:52
VP won't play overpass vs fnatic
2017-07-17 00:54
Good veto, very possible.
2017-07-17 08:25
Fnatic wins, i think it will be 16-13 fair play to vp and gl to them on the rest of the major
2017-07-17 00:56
#76
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Sweden rizlaone 
hmm nice match inc
2017-07-17 00:58
#80
 | 
Poland Maxvells 
virtus.plow on
2017-07-17 01:00
ez for vp lul
2017-07-17 01:05
#97
 | 
Turkey darkh1ous 
So ez 4 virtus.premier
2017-07-17 01:10
#101
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Poland mamba99999 
More peps are betting on VP, so, there's a big chance they will lose. #goldenrule
2017-07-17 01:12
doesn't make sense or? Fnatic are the favourites according the odds.
2017-07-17 01:15
#105
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
i would like to see cbble xD
2017-07-17 01:15
EZ FNATIC
2017-07-17 01:34
#119
 | 
Brazil Collee 
The plow will be applied, 16-7 for VP on Mirage, you heard here first
2017-07-17 02:02
#120
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Poland Pseuq 
VP GOT THIS, MARK MY WORDS!!
2017-07-17 02:10
ez for vp
2017-07-17 02:14
i might sound biased but you're retarded if you favour VP here, they have literally been dogshit the past like 4 months, beating a tier 3 team on their best map doesn't change anything, fnatic will surely ban nuke.
2017-07-17 03:15
#126
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Brazil Collee 
"i might sound biased but you're retarded if you favour VP here, they have literally been dogshit the past like 4 months" You just described fnatic lul. Just kidding, VP were performing really bad, although I think fnatic were not good as well, they have been much better. But you never know, fnatic rely so much on individual skill, if VP are hitting their shots they could take this, honestly. I wouldn't call it a fnatic game, I wouldn't bet on it as well. Very unpredictable
2017-07-17 05:01
Don't use the word ''if'' it's been used so many times in the context of describing VP for like 4 months now, even if they go out last place 2 tourneys in a row people still said the same that they could always show up and do well this time. Fnatic has been pretty bad aswell but nowhere close to the rock bottom level that VP has hit, they have atleast gotten some achievements and shown signs of improvement, what does VP have? A bo1 win against a dumb tier 3 team that let their best map through, so if you're going of off logic you have to favour fnatic.
2017-07-17 05:36
#135
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Brazil Collee 
Well it's a major, which we didn't have in the last 4 months, pretty sure VP practiced a lot harder and they are taking this more seriously than anything. I wouldn't put my money on fnatic, even tho I think they are the favorites. They rely too much on individual skill, like I said. They're inconsistent. VP can definitely win this if they hit their shots, or at least become a real threat. I think they would have more trouble facing more organized teams, that don't rely too much on their aim. I think fnatic got this but yeah, it's still an unpredictable game. Gonna be fun to watch
2017-07-17 06:58
Yea, and the same thing goes for fnatic, they have also practised alot more since its a major. My only point was that its stupid to think that VP are favourites since they have been terrible for so long and if you go by logic there's nothing whatsoever pointing that VP should take this, but I believe we agree on this point. People are overhyping this win over Vega but its basically worthless since teams won't ever let nuke through vs VP and I think its so dumb that so many people hold onto the belief that VP will play well purely based on the fact that they always show up in big tournaments, we've gone well past the point of relying on them to show up when it matters and now its up to them to actually put their practice into the game and perform which they hopefully have done and will do in the major (just not against fnaticxd)
2017-07-17 07:15
#141
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Brazil Collee 
This win over vega means nothing. They beat Astralis on nuke recently, then got pretty rekt in the other maps of the BO3, also vega will probably end up 0-3. Just think this time they can bring something we didn't see in a long time from them, since it's a major. I never expected to see some magic from VP in the tournaments they played this year, after the first major. However, I can see them doing something different now. That's why the game is so interesting for me, I just don't know how they'll play, probably the most interesting game of the day. Hope they have the balls to play confident and agressive. Let's see, also expecting to see olofmeister bringing his A game to this major, he could lead fnatic to something really big
2017-07-17 07:50
#469
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Brazil Collee 
Called it. Relying too much on individual skill brings inconsistency. Wasn't even a hard game for VP, they just had to hit their shots, and fnatic were off
2017-07-18 00:12
Called it XD? It's a bo1 mate, you even said that fnatic are favourites, how does that mean calling it? Its a bo1 so its basically a toss up but fnatic were favourites going into it due to VP's horrible form the past 3 months.
2017-07-18 00:18
#501
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Brazil Collee 
It was a 60-40 game at best, any team could win, I said it was the most unpredictable match of the day, even tho fnatic were slightly favorites. You clearly underestimated VP because of their recent form, because they have been shit for 4 months. Well, they didn't play any major in 4 months. Any team hitting their shots that faces fnatic has a chance of winning. Especially if fnatic are on a day off. They desperately need a decent igl
2017-07-18 00:22
Yea, its a 55-45 / 60-40 game because its a bo1, all i was saying is that fnatic were favourites going into it and its hard to argue against that if you go by results and form. Just because i said that fnatic were favourites doesn't mean that its going to be an easy game, its all about who shows up on that certain day. I didn't underestimate VP, i just said that fnatic are favourites, this could've gone eitherway and you did in no way predict this :P I do agree though that fnatic only have one plan of winning which is using their firepower.
2017-07-18 00:27
Your logic is: "Team A is shit, so they will stay shit". You don't even take into account the fact that slumps are over because players change things and improve.
2017-07-18 00:18
There's no logic to say otherwise though? You have to go off of that until they've proven otherwise. They have been slumping for like 4 straight tournaments and they've consistently tried to fix their issues and still gone out last place in big tournaments such as katowice and cologne. There's no logic to favour them based on the fact that they ''could've'' changed things and improved, because they have already said that they've done that before and that it didn't help anything for a long time. I did take into the account that their slump might be over earlier this year since they always come back and play great in big tournaments whatever form they've been in but after they got shit on and exited last in 3 big tournaments in a row while also making changes within their team to try and fix it there's not much reason to put faith into that factor anymore. We'll see if they get to quarters and if they show a good performance there and maybe make it to semis then we can start talking about them being back and I would predict them to win alot more, but prior to these matches, not so much..
2017-07-18 00:42
I don't favour them. I was just surprised you took away a chance of improving from them just like that. Just on the basis that they failed miserably in previous tourneys. They did fail abysmally in all 3 - true that, BUT that doesn't mean they can't change it, right? It's all in the head afterall. The same goes for fnatic - something horrible happened in that team. From a sick dominator, they changed to contender. They aren't the same team despite the same lineup. That's sad :( There is "stuff" that in my opinion people miss about VP. Kuben and Taz have newborns - that take A LOT of time and energy. I am not surprise they didn't deliver. Pasha is a father too. Neo, Snax and Byali - 3 guys can't carry (even if they did) 3 other guys (I count kuben as a part of the team). Another thing is that Pasha is a successful streamer - maybe that has taken too much of his skill. Another thing is: 4 guys of VP are "old" - maybe they got bored, tired. Another thing is: money, I bet they make loads of money and even without result they aren't on welfare and having played CS for so many years they lost (partial) motivation? No clue.
2017-07-18 00:50
You can never take away the fact that they can always show up to their old form again but I lost alot of faith in that since they haven't shown any signs of that in like 4 months and I don't like using the word ''if'' when prediciting, what if fnatic came back to their early 2016 form this event? I mean its alot more far fetched than VP getting back in form for a major but you get my point, if VP had shown any sign of their old selves these past couple months then i might of brought that factor up. I don't see any reason to go deep into their personal stuff and how it affects them because we can never know. I still think they have the winning spirit in them and are willing to put in work and effort to come back, I don't think them having children will affect that too much, but its just speculation. Pasha doesn't even stream much though, don't see how that would affect him in any way? He looks very sharp so far though.
2017-07-18 00:59
I agree with everything you wrote except for one thing. Pasha. I never watched his streams, but don't you think he gave up streaming in favour of practising? Maybe practising more makes him deliver these days, don't you think?
2017-07-18 01:05
He has never streamed much, the times he has been active on twitch he's only streamed for a couple of days in a week and only a few hours on those days. Just because he's a successful streamer it doesn't mean that he's very active. He didn't give up on anything, I'm pretty sure that streaming is just a thing he does when he has some spare time over, his practice with the team and his family has always been the number one priority and I don't think him streaming for a little bit before has had impact on his performance, even anything has affected his performance its surely the fact that he has 2 children to take care of.
2017-07-18 01:12
Ha, so did have a second child. I thought it was a gossip (I don't use social media). So what could have been the reason for his LOOOOONG slump? And just notice - something affected his performance badly. Now as you noticed (and I noticed it some time ago too) he started delivering. Good K/D, impactful frags, good sniping, NOT being frag donor. Something changed to a degree he is an asset to the team and not dead weigh.
2017-07-18 01:15
I do aswell think it has obviously affected him but pasha is still only one out of the five players of the team. Basically all of them has underperformed alot these past months but pasha going from close to deadweight to a very impactful awper is obviously huge for the teams success. I do however still think snax is the driving force of the team, when he performs well VP have a huge chance of going far which we have seen alot in the past.
2017-07-18 01:19
#125
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Russia xonnz0red 
VP GONNA TAKE THIS
2017-07-17 04:57
#127
 | 
United States skurr 
ez 4 olof
2017-07-17 05:04
#128
 | 
Moldova OptimusBlyad 
EZ 4 FNATIC FNATIC TO GO 3-0 EZ
2017-07-17 05:22
OFC always fnatic vs vp in group
2017-07-17 05:27
#131
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Brazil LukeCS 
Virtus.pro removed Mirage Virtus.pro removed Cache fnatic removed Cobblestone fnatic removed Nuke fnatic removed Train Virtus.pro removed Overpass Inferno was left over 16-8 fnatic (I know this is a dumb veto but VP's map pool is so confuse)
2017-07-17 05:47
#148
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Sweden Empiryk 
Virtus.pro removed Mirage ????????????????
2017-07-17 08:42
theyre shit on mirage atm,actually their only good map is nuke,thats why ppl overrate them just because of yesterday match against the worst team in this major
2017-07-17 11:58
fnatic are favourite, we still haven't seen VP's CT side, which is their weak choke side
2017-07-17 06:03
#134
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Faroe Islands shubaNNN 
VP 1-3
2017-07-17 06:32
#137
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Poland kiko1980 
EZ for Virtus.PRO
2017-07-17 07:15
we 'll go to pasha london school
2017-07-17 07:42
#142
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World jOkeNN1337 
so much fucking shittalking and they gonna rape them and they gonna rape them man yall sound like some 12yo pathetic kids just wait for the game and enjoy it why spread so much fuckin hate dont understand that its not like the teams hate each other either theyre good friends but this shit community of 10-17 yr old retards destroying the CS community that was so nice back in 1.6 times and even good amount of css
2017-07-17 07:57
#144
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
VP road to 1:3 !
2017-07-17 08:12
#150
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
Yup, they will get 1-1 now, they will then play the loser of SK - Astralis, which makes it 1-3 and they will probably lose to a team like FaZe for the 3rd L.
2017-07-17 09:01
FaZe with a 1-2 record? nt
2017-07-17 09:13
#169
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
They just lost on Train to OpTic, do you really believe mouz has no chance? It's a BO1, anything can happen.
2017-07-17 12:21
Train Optic Pick none, do u even watch this shit haha FaZe > Mouse no problem
2017-07-17 12:24
#173
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
Yeah, after half the match, mouz definitely has no chance. LOL. Watch some CS, think and then speak, mate.
2017-07-17 12:44
Train Optic XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-07-17 12:44
#180
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
hltv.org/matches/2312088/faze-vs-optic-e.. Happened 11 days ago. WTF man?
2017-07-17 15:29
Who tf cares about matches against tier 3 teams? Not even same team they met today, not even a major. FaZe crushed Mouse last time they met on train. No one cares about optic shit and train is Faze second most played map after Mirage with only ONE match
2017-07-17 15:38
Fnatic is 2 lucky...olof aka legend of major
2017-07-17 08:21
#149
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
Ok, veto is fairly straightforward. I'm sure VP will ban Cache, Overpass and Inferno. fnatic will ban Nuke and Cobble. Both teams are happy to play Mirage and Train, but in this case VP has 3 maps they definitely don't want to play against fnatic, so fnatic has the upper hand. It will depend on them whether we see Mirage or Train.
2017-07-17 09:00
Why to ban cobble ? VP dont play well on cobble.
2017-07-17 09:09
#172
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
Have you ever seen fnatic play Cobble? If you want a really good example, watch VP - fnatic in Las Vegas. If fnatic leave Cobble, they would have to ban either Mirage or Train. Why would they ban their best maps and leave one of the worst?
2017-07-17 12:25
Dude cmon we r talking about Fnatic.They werent playing nuke and overpass but still won on both.Their mappool is random so i dont think that they would give a fuck and give VP chance to play mirage.
2017-07-17 14:47
#181
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
This is what I'm talking about. Fnatic can choose between banning Cobble, Mirage and Train. Do you think they'd rather play VP on Cobble or Mirage? Either way, VP will probably want to play Train.
2017-07-17 15:33
Last train was awful for VP so idk.Thats a little bit hard to predict Fnatic and VP veto.
2017-07-17 16:46
#163
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Poland lukirrip 
vp will ban mirage letting overpass vp sucks hard on mirage
2017-07-17 11:52
#170
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
VP is always good on mirage. Their Overpass is trash and the only way they can play it is if they heavy anti-strat the other team.
2017-07-17 12:22
#154
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Bulgaria kr9ptonlul 
fnatic 3-0 theyll face winner of big/c9 and ez win
2017-07-17 09:25
#161
 | 
Norway TDK Em1L 
+1 Kreygasm
2017-07-17 11:22
#155
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
lmao virtus.plow ez
2017-07-17 09:27
Ez plow cant wait to see Krimz breaking keyboard and Dennis crying about abused bugs
2017-07-17 09:33
#159
 | 
Poland R3pCaK 
EZ for VP
2017-07-17 11:21
#160
 | 
Norway TDK Em1L 
Guys ya got member fnatic ALWAYS BANS NUKE, no chance for biceps then also holy shieeet fnatics last 4/5 games iz mirage, but I still feel like they suck on it, what is fnatics good maps even?
2017-07-17 11:21
fnatic dont even know their good maps, so how the fuck are we suppose to
2017-07-17 15:41
fnatic 100% win rate on nuke.weird....but it is a fact
2017-07-17 20:45
#162
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United States HLTVGOD 
2014 :(
2017-07-17 11:46
LUL why the fck are ppl overrating VP? They can only play nuke,and theyve never been thats shit since the creation of the lineup,everyone but snax is washed up in this lineup + i heard they will do a roster change right after the major and thats seriously needed if they want to be good again
2017-07-17 11:56
everyone but snax is washed up. that is such a lie lul
2017-07-17 22:58
i mean,just look like top teams players,every one of them is miles away from VP players individually,good like winning shit now
2017-07-17 23:02
Time to school the granpas
2017-07-17 12:05
#167
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United States Jontron_ 
PogChamp JW highlight player PogChamp
2017-07-17 12:13
Fnatic got this
2017-07-17 12:13
#175
 | 
Turkey headshotk1ng 
60-34 LOL GET REKT VP +{"
2017-07-17 14:17
Let's go VP!
2017-07-17 14:50
#179
Snax | 
Poland Barnaj 
Ezz 4 VP Sorry rudymester :C
2017-07-17 15:01
how to breake my heart-fnatic<3 vs vp :(
2017-07-17 15:35
#185
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
fix hours this gypsy from PGL already delay this match for +2 hours
2017-07-17 15:43
odds are weird. i support fnatic but vp will win. map mirage
2017-07-17 15:53
#188
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Lithuania Juokutis 
why are ppl betting on vp? 16-2 vs the worst team at the major on vp's best map doesn't mean they have a chance against fnatic...
2017-07-17 16:05
This game will be very hard to win for Virtus.Pro, sad but true.
2017-07-17 16:35
#191
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Poland Narotek! 
Ez 4 Virtus.Pro <3 Confirmed °_°
2017-07-17 16:41
VP SUCKSSSSSSSS SOOOOOOOOOO BADDDDDDDD YESSSS I'M 11 YEARS OLD KID WHO LIKES SUCKING FITTA!!
2017-07-17 17:10
#199
 | 
United States DeAlphy 
FITTA!
2017-07-17 18:00
#194
 | 
India Kalpesh85 
it is new boost coming up today @olofmeister @jw #boostmeister
2017-07-17 17:36
Fnatic should take this
2017-07-17 17:43
ez vp fuck fnatic
2017-07-17 17:59
#200
 | 
Serbia ZAG0R 
16-8 for VP
2017-07-17 18:12
#201
 | 
Brazil brguz 
Wtf this odds? Hahaha free money!!!
2017-07-17 18:37
#202
Anders | 
Norway anMu 
This match will start in 3am boys with this shit pgl production.
2017-07-17 19:15
03:00 , more possible than 22:30
2017-07-17 19:39
+1 LUL
2017-07-17 19:50
#205
Snax | 
Poland Barnaj 
Ezz 4 vp
2017-07-17 20:41
#206
 | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Mancow 
What are these delays
2017-07-17 20:42
#208
 | 
Poland rabek000 
LETS GO VP!!!!
2017-07-17 21:28
#209
rain | 
Turkey vVoLF07 
good luck fnatic.
2017-07-17 21:31
VP easy
2017-07-17 21:34
Oh nice match
2017-07-17 21:40
#215
 | 
Sweden WillarN 
#LETSGOFNATIC
2017-07-17 22:07
VIRTUS.PRO 16-0 Fnatic #PashaBajceps
2017-07-17 22:14
#218
 | 
Sweden ralleballen 
please fnatic
2017-07-17 22:17
#219
 | 
Turkey itsKLEZ 
Ez 4 virtus
2017-07-17 22:28
#220
zehN | 
Finland Pietzu10 
ez 4 vp
2017-07-17 22:29
#221
 | 
Russia jemgod 
VP take this, sorry fnatic.
2017-07-17 22:52
#222
 | 
World dddouseddd 
ez4HeWhoMustNotBeNamed
2017-07-17 22:52
Go'Go VP !!!!! :-))))))
2017-07-17 22:56
#225
 | 
Turkey powergs 
FINALLY LEGGO VP
2017-07-17 22:56
GL Fnatic kardesim
2017-07-17 22:57
#227
 | 
Norway OlavDinho 
Lets go Rain!!! He is my grandfather!
2017-07-17 22:57
#229
 | 
Poland wrrrrah 
greatest enemies
2017-07-17 22:59
#230
 | 
Argentina mat1arg 
el clasico
2017-07-17 23:00
#231
 | 
Uruguay zniksze 
ALL IN VP THX ME LATER AND ENJOY EZ SKINS/MONEY
2017-07-17 23:00
GO VP!!!! VP!!!!! FINALLY WHAT A GODLY MATCH!!
2017-07-17 23:00
EZ 4 JW :)
2017-07-17 23:02
back in the days it would be grand finale
2017-07-17 23:03
#236
 | 
Serbia LabtecSRB 
16:9 Fnatic
2017-07-17 23:04
Where are the player profiles, are they only in playoffs?
2017-07-17 23:04
#240
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
ask this from PGL
2017-07-17 23:06
#238
 | 
Poland moxley 
ALL IN ON VP LETS FUCKIN GOOOOOOOOOOO
2017-07-17 23:04
#239
 | 
Argentina mat1arg 
nope
2017-07-17 23:05
Rip money
2017-07-17 23:12
#350
 | 
Poland moxley 
L U L
2017-07-17 23:48
ez for virtus plow Kappa
2017-07-17 23:06
#243
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
easy for updated flusha.exe fanobet.com/slip/kwA3aVZp95mO0KW9
2017-07-17 23:07
VIRTUS GONNA WIN THIS (SRY BUT TRUE)
2017-07-17 23:08
#246
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Poland Trausky 
GO VP!
2017-07-17 23:09
go dennis !!
2017-07-17 23:10
Got a feeling VP will win this don't ask me why even i don't know logical reason why i pick VP instead fnatic
2017-07-17 23:11
#249
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
0-16 Virtus.pro
2017-07-17 23:12
#251
 | 
Europe Lionizuka 
VP can do this, let's go!
2017-07-17 23:13
So hyped for this
2017-07-17 23:13
#253
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
VP on cache hahahahahaahah time to show everybopdy jow terrible is VP mappol
2017-07-17 23:15
#364
 | 
Other TYZ4 
You sure?
2017-07-17 23:51
vp bans mirage instead of cache smh. are they really scared lul
2017-07-17 23:15
#372
 | 
Other TYZ4 
seems like a good pick
2017-07-17 23:52
the funny thing is, that i actually see VP as a good Cache team. back then they loved to play that and they did beat some really crazy cache teams even in 2016! plus in their loses they oftenly played as a tough team to play on cache ;-)
2017-07-18 00:33
Oh no, Cache... Way better pick for Fnatic
2017-07-17 23:15
Cache? wtf? jump bug time
2017-07-17 23:15
#257
 | 
Germany lidde424 
why no cbble :(
2017-07-17 23:15
wtf is this veto
2017-07-17 23:15
cache what the fuck vp kys
2017-07-17 23:15
So Fnatic picks cache, the same map where they were destroyed vs SK... Clearly PGL or Valve is kindly asking players to not choose cbble.
2017-07-17 23:15
cache? rip vp XD
2017-07-17 23:15
#262
 | 
Poland Trausky 
RIP VP its Cache
2017-07-17 23:16
So close to Cobble ffs
2017-07-17 23:16
#264
 | 
Argentina mat1arg 
FLUSHCHE
2017-07-17 23:17
skip cause vp can toggle anytime.. since its a major logical bet would be fnatic cause cache its vp worst map but u never know with these polish cheaters :)
2017-07-17 23:16
#266
 | 
Poland KennyXD 
Cache lul rip vp
2017-07-17 23:16
#267
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
ez vp after major ... fnatic trash
2017-07-17 23:16
#268
 | 
Poland mamba99999 
49 vs. 51%, nice...
2017-07-17 23:17
VP played cache 7 times this year. (against teams such as north,godsent and envyus pre-shuffle) They won 1 game out of the 7 and it was against k23... What a weird match it will be...
2017-07-17 23:19
#270
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Sweden GODOLLE 
fnatic is going to win but its gonna be close
2017-07-17 23:19
VP is a weird team on cache. they have beaten so many godlike teams on cache but only to lose vs the weaker ones.
2017-07-17 23:19
#272
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
relax ... vp not lose to fnatic after major :/
2017-07-17 23:20
#287
 | 
Poland sajlent 
they did starladder few months ago fnatic rekted them on inferno
2017-07-17 23:30
#273
 | 
Iran kolo102 
vp 11 majors won, if tehy win krakow it will be their 12th major! rspect!
2017-07-17 23:20
#274
 | 
United Arab Emirates PogChamp1337 
vp on cache? all in fnc
2017-07-17 23:23
rip ur money vp is back with new hacks
2017-07-17 23:37
#318
 | 
Uruguay zniksze 
+++++
2017-07-17 23:44
#275
Anders | 
Norway anMu 
EZ FOR YOGURTMEISTER!!!!
2017-07-17 23:24
#276
 | 
Germany lidde424 
lets go fnatic lets go
2017-07-17 23:24
Go go VP
2017-07-17 23:25
Cache? nt VP, no 3-0 for you
2017-07-17 23:25
Every time Virtus.Pro play Cache, which is like once in a blue moon, they always pull out new things. At least they have that going for them.
2017-07-17 23:25
#280
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
AHAHAH EZ VP KYS HATERSSSSSSSSS
2017-07-17 23:27
#281
 | 
Poland sajlent 
finally VP isn't the team who lost 2nd round after winning pistol round xD
2017-07-17 23:27
#321
 | 
Sweden kallespann 
they are back for sure you can feel it in the energy this is the VP we know. They may not win major but they are the VP from Atlanta/vegas
2017-07-17 23:44
#340
 | 
Poland sajlent 
I would wait for the end of the groupstage with these statements
2017-07-17 23:47
VP winning eco :o
2017-07-17 23:27
Virtus Plow activated!
2017-07-17 23:28
#284
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
lmao vp lose to fnatic in 2k17 ahahha whta a joke
2017-07-17 23:28
#285
 | 
Sweden GODOLLE 
fnatic always losing vs full eco, this is a 12-3 13-2 half for vp now, fnatic gets destroyed by that
2017-07-17 23:28
#288
 | 
Brazil R_ananias 
Well that was not a FULL eco.
2017-07-17 23:30
#286
 | 
Sweden Donger89 
gg nice tactics 4Head
2017-07-17 23:31
#289
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
AHAHAHA HATERS??????? AHAHAHHAHA
2017-07-17 23:31
#290
JW | 
Sweden peterrrr10 
fnatic fell for the trap lul
2017-07-17 23:33
#291
 | 
Sweden GODOLLE 
fnatic is not even trying lul, this is mm strats we all can do better
2017-07-17 23:33
Yeah they aren't even trying in the major, probably got better things to do.
2017-07-17 23:38
#293
Anders | 
Norway anMu 
GG OLOF. WHAT KRIIIIIIIMZ????????
2017-07-17 23:36
#294
 | 
Germany lidde424 
1v3 krimzZzz
2017-07-17 23:35
#295
 | 
Norway OlavDinho 
Fnatic is overrated atm, just sayin'
2017-07-17 23:35
#296
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
omg lucky shit fnatic GOGO VP ez win ez major dude!
2017-07-17 23:35
#297
 | 
Sweden ezwuo364 
GOGO VP
2017-07-17 23:36
#298
 | 
Turkey powergs 
Really i mean really fnatic always with stupid luck
2017-07-17 23:36
#299
 | 
Poland sajlent 
the timing xd
2017-07-17 23:36
1 vs 3 ahhahahahahahah
2017-07-17 23:37
#303
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
1-0 > 2-8 #GOVP #EZMAJOR #HATERSDIE
2017-07-17 23:38
#304
 | 
Germany lidde424 
fnatic needs to take middle ffs
2017-07-17 23:38
they need to disband ffs
2017-07-17 23:40
pasha in 2k17 is so nice to watch almost as good as he was 2k14
2017-07-17 23:38
#306
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
Krimz so hard
2017-07-17 23:39
#307
 | 
Germany lidde424 
watch this go old school 12:3 13:2
2017-07-17 23:39
#309
 | 
Korea pollenJAHH 
fnatic is so fucking cancerous, look at these noobs playing they are worst than my gold nova friends who created a team for fun. disband already and go to godsent nerds
2017-07-17 23:40
#310
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Poland mamba99999 
pasha has absolutly the WORST timings with the nades and flashes...
2017-07-17 23:40
VP's T-side is questionable though
2017-07-17 23:41
#312
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
VP GAYTERS??????????????????
2017-07-17 23:41
#313
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
BOT Taz never disapointing foreve suck in this game
2017-07-17 23:41
this fnatic side looks so lackluster. I've said it all along, moving flusha to IGL was a really bad idea. This lineup doesn't gel at all together. Flusha was also the most consistent performer at majors and a rock for the team much like coldzera. He was the guy you depended on to bring in the big clutches and to win matches on his own. Now its like, the support guy krimz doing literally everything. Clutching, supporting, winning sick aim duels. Wheres the rest of the guys? Wasnt dennis brought in to add more firepower?
2017-07-17 23:43
#358
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Macau SJ158 
what do you propose? bring pronax back?
2017-07-17 23:50
Nah, maybe add a coach that can help working on the strats and get some nice defaults going like they used to have. Could also help with getting flusha back into the game again, hes been sorely missing for some time now. The old fnatic used to be really good at refragging and helping eachother out. I dont see any of that in todays lineup, its literally stupid 1on1 duels constantly that they lose 70% of the time as T
2017-07-17 23:53
that was actually a beautiful round from fnatic
2017-07-17 23:43
#328
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Sweden kallespann 
yeah b split through connector with smoke, sweet but fundamentals are missing they made some strats but its not enough with those bad fundamentals they dont even know how to take map control on B :/
2017-07-17 23:45
#316
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
all in fnatic AHHAHAHAHAHAHA #LOST
2017-07-17 23:43
#317
 | 
Brazil R_ananias 
Nice play from fnatic splitting to B site from Z.
2017-07-17 23:44
#319
 | 
Poland sajlent 
papa bless
2017-07-17 23:44
#320
 | 
Sweden Donger89 
pasha on point
2017-07-17 23:44
VP IS BACK
2017-07-17 23:45
#323
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
Pasha > JW in 2k17 ? LuL
2017-07-17 23:45
pasha 2017 has been good ;-)
2017-07-17 23:47
#416
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
But no better than a coldzero <3
2017-07-18 00:01
yeah obviously. weird to compare them :D
2017-07-18 00:31
#324
 | 
Lithuania alon9 
olof in 2017 lul
2017-07-17 23:45
#325
 | 
African Union BuddDwyer 
pasha on meth again
2017-07-17 23:45
GETTING OUT AIMED BY PASHA WHAT A DAY TO BE ALIVE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2017-07-17 23:45
#335
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Poland TheDarkusPL 
Pasha winning 100% awp duels against olof, and JW is that 2014 or what?
2017-07-17 23:46
pasha in 2017 is playing good you guys should watch the games ;-)
2017-07-17 23:48
pasha has been great in 2017
2017-07-17 23:47
I know,its still weird xD
2017-07-17 23:49
fnatic 1-3
2017-07-17 23:45
#329
Snax | 
Poland Waynerek 
SNAX WUT
2017-07-17 23:46
#330
 | 
Poland sajlent 
dat bait for the cache pick xd
2017-07-17 23:46
#331
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
VP HATERS??? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2017-07-17 23:46
hahaha fnatic low skilled bots
2017-07-17 23:46
Its sooo entertaining
2017-07-17 23:46
#334
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
Snax g0d
2017-07-17 23:46
#336
 | 
Macau SJ158 
vp on point, great to see
2017-07-17 23:46
#337
 | 
Canada bilal_j8 
Olof is playing so bad -_-
2017-07-17 23:47
I heard about some vp slump or something? Maybe at tier 2 lans, MAJOR IS HERE BABY
2017-07-17 23:47
#346
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Brazil R_ananias 
Oh yeah Cologne was tier 2...
2017-07-17 23:47
Yeah, tier 1 lans are $1mln prize pool, tier 2 500k/250k. I'm just saying that you wanna prep your form for major instead of those other lans. Everyone said that they won't gonna go past vega, so i am happy at least they can get closer to 2-0 after that half
2017-07-17 23:51
youtube.com/c/M3atheadGaming I have posted POVS from this major already on the channel, many more to come, check it out if you enjoy watching POVs guys !
2017-07-17 23:47
God Snax
2017-07-17 23:47
#345
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Poland moxley 
JANUUUUUUUUUUSZ
2017-07-17 23:47
#348
 | 
Sweden Donger89 
fnatic is done
2017-07-17 23:48
#349
 | 
Sweden GODOLLE 
#285
2017-07-17 23:48
#351
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
Pasha & Snax > Fnatic
2017-07-17 23:48
#353
f0rest | 
Portugal physt 
VP unleash their bear always (and only) on majors
2017-07-17 23:50
#354
 | 
Lithuania alon9 
almost every match was one-sided today, besides faze-mouz
2017-07-17 23:50
#355
 | 
Germany lidde424 
facepalmhalf fnatic
2017-07-17 23:50
#356
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
1-0 > 3-14 xd #GOVPGODS
2017-07-17 23:50
Why is fnatic so f bad?
2017-07-17 23:50
#363
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
but kids whis autism say all in fnatic XDDDDDDDD
2017-07-17 23:51
It is ok to bet on fnatic right now, right here, for sure profitable with those odds and VP's form.
2017-07-18 00:04
rip my picks xD I didnt pick gambit , big and vp xD
2017-07-17 23:50
SO EZ EZ SKINS EZ LIFE
2017-07-17 23:51
#362
mimi | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
Pasha carrying what a day boys and girls
2017-07-17 23:51
smh
2017-07-17 23:52
Really fnatic ?
2017-07-17 23:51
when pasha has 19 kills u know theres something wrong
2017-07-17 23:51
for which team? haha
2017-07-17 23:52
#368
 | 
Sweden Donger89 
Holy
2017-07-17 23:51
#369
 | 
Macau SJ158 
dennis insane with p2000 too hah
2017-07-17 23:52
#370
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
lmao fucking fnatic win 2 pistol :D what a lucky shet
2017-07-17 23:52
uff dennis stop that.
2017-07-17 23:52
holy moly dennis GOD <3 EL PISTOLERO
2017-07-17 23:52
ez for fnatic
2017-07-17 23:53
choke by vp inc
2017-07-17 23:53
#384
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Uruguay zniksze 
Kappa
2017-07-17 23:54
nokappa, watch
2017-07-17 23:56
#403
 | 
Uruguay zniksze 
Kappa 100% EASY WIN 4 VP watch
2017-07-17 23:58
#378
 | 
Poland TheDarkusPL 
another 12-3 choke at this major :D
2017-07-17 23:53
I really fucking hate those 12-3 first halves...
2017-07-17 23:53
Vp in Cache? IZI Fnatic
2017-07-17 23:53
#383
Anders | 
Norway anMu 
Wanna hear joke? Winning both pistol round and still losing 12:4 xDDD.
2017-07-17 23:53
Losing after a 12-3 first half on CT side of Cache might be the funnier joke
2017-07-17 23:56
#398
Anders | 
Norway anMu 
Let's see :D.
2017-07-17 23:57
#386
 | 
Germany lidde424 
GOD DENNIS WITH THE PLAYS
2017-07-17 23:55
#388
 | 
Sweden GODOLLE 
olof almost lost them the round
2017-07-17 23:56
omg so stupid smh
2017-07-17 23:56
#392
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
FUKE CUMBEKE go fast i go sleep ZzZZzZZzz
2017-07-17 23:56
dammit pasha
2017-07-17 23:56
#395
 | 
Macau SJ158 
rare brainfart by snax, now fnatic is on the roll
2017-07-17 23:56
#396
Xyp9x | 
Romania Old_Guy 
Can someone explain me how none of NEO's shots hit at the end of the 19th round?
2017-07-17 23:57
#404
 | 
Macau SJ158 
he was tapping and moving
2017-07-17 23:58
#407
Xyp9x | 
Romania Old_Guy 
Wasn't he crouched?
2017-07-17 23:59
#408
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Macau SJ158 
yes but unlike the full on spray the recoil reset fucks you up if you dont time the taps correctly, specialy if you are moving.
2017-07-17 23:59
#418
Xyp9x | 
Romania Old_Guy 
Ah fuck, ty
2017-07-18 00:01
SNAXt. you lose this series with this stupid bomb plant situation
2017-07-17 23:57
#402
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
omg stfu vp win round and fnatic aconomy die :/
2017-07-17 23:58
#400
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
gg
2017-07-17 23:57
did taz just threw a decoy into the molly thinking it was a smoke?
2017-07-17 23:58
#409
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Germany lidde424 
LETS GO COMMON
2017-07-17 23:59
#410
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Sweden GODOLLE 
dennis vs 5
2017-07-17 23:59
#411
 | 
Sweden Donger89 
dennis playing alone
2017-07-17 23:59
seriously why the fuck is dennis now playing csgo..
2017-07-17 23:59
#414
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
holly fuck how fucking trash is this NEO this shiter shoudl be now pratice AIM not play in 1mln tournamnet
2017-07-18 00:00
taz fan talking XD
2017-07-18 00:02
lul he is the biggest hater you shall ignore him
2017-07-18 00:03
#434
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
only one player use this nickname ?
2017-07-18 00:04
0/8
2017-07-18 00:05
#417
 | 
Germany lidde424 
olof change res now
2017-07-18 00:01
#420
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United States Tater_Hater 
Who are you and what have you done with Dennis?!?!?!?!
2017-07-18 00:01
VP losing all 4 vs 3
2017-07-18 00:01
VP losing easy rounds again and again...4v2 lost...
2017-07-18 00:03
#424
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Poland mamba99999 
VP, info ? pls ?
2017-07-18 00:03
#427
 | 
Portugal Shion 
rly pasha? you aiming heaven with awp and dont look vent?
2017-07-18 00:03
byali should have watched vents tbh
2017-07-18 00:04
#491
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Portugal Shion 
im sure they were saying to byali to go plant the bomb...
2017-07-18 00:17
Virtus.Throw LUL
2017-07-18 00:03
Vp seriously?!
2017-07-18 00:03
#431
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Turkey powergs 
Just like always we are losing a lot of stupid rounds i hate this i hope Vp wont lose this game
2017-07-18 00:04
#432
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
fnatic such a trash now lose round and lose game but shit economy
2017-07-18 00:04
16-13 coming
2017-07-18 00:04
Classic Virtus Choke is back.
2017-07-18 00:04
vp strating to make mistakes :v
2017-07-18 00:04
nt but fnatic will win 16-14 my little kid
2017-07-18 00:05
what a sick match so far *-* <3 fnatic <3 VP
2017-07-18 00:05
#443
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
ahahhaha nice -4 always agaist eco round 16-11 VP!
2017-07-18 00:06
#444
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Poland fr8_ 
ez for fnatic
2017-07-18 00:06
VP could already won the game but their brains stopped working as usual smh
2017-07-18 00:06
nt VP atleast your trying win vs dead fnatic and stil llose this game on 12-3 hahahah
2017-07-18 00:07
#450
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
OMG STFU 16-11 fucking kid
2017-07-18 00:08
#447
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
AAHAHAHAHAH GG
2017-07-18 00:08
#448
 | 
Poland sajlent 
this is to fckn tense
2017-07-18 00:08
Great play from NEO.
2017-07-18 00:08
#451
HObbit | 
Germany sanos 
krimz is such a bot other than on clutch rounds its unbelievable
2017-07-18 00:08
#452
 | 
Russia iHaZaR 
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOO
2017-07-18 00:08
Is flusha calling?
2017-07-18 00:08
yep
2017-07-18 00:13
very clever decision.. let krimz chew tobacco and do nothing and let flusha lose all of his potential.. omglol
2017-07-18 00:22
lmao
2017-07-18 08:30
lulululu
2017-07-18 00:09
#455
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Sweden GODOLLE 
that choke from krimz can cost them the game
2017-07-18 00:09
#456
Europe npH 
BOT KRIMZ THROW
2017-07-18 00:09
"I need to see that spray from neo. Oh that looked so beautiful". I'm sorry, but is this some polish porno?
2017-07-18 00:09
#458
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Bulgaria topkekwow 
krimz bind w +walk fucking idiot
2017-07-18 00:09
#459
Snax | 
Sweden Vpeister 
VP HATERS??? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2017-07-18 00:10
I'am VP fans xd Poland is our country distant brothers
2017-07-18 00:12
#460
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Netherlands RichRamp 
Saving strats for major is real
2017-07-18 00:10
#461
 | 
Uruguay zniksze 
#231 ENJOY EZ ALL IN AND EZ AMAZING ODDS
2017-07-18 00:11
#462
 | 
Brazil XEMBAO 
how flipsid3 lose to fnatic hahaha they are so bad
2017-07-18 00:11
#463
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Germany lidde424 
its not even about tactics.. fnatic aint hitting shit.
2017-07-18 00:11
#464
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Poland sajlent 
what a game VP almost gave it away with all those mistakes and fnatic was kinda lucky with timings but still good comeback
2017-07-18 00:12
that is for sure. VP could've won earlier but they made silly mistakes and Fnatic punished them really good
2017-07-18 00:14
#466
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Poland moxley 
GGWP! EZ SKINS HAHA
2017-07-18 00:12
gg
2017-07-18 00:12
So fucking ez ? 2-0 ez ?
2017-07-18 00:12
bravo VP <3
2017-07-18 00:13
if fnatic had a better t half this was a win for them.
2017-07-18 00:13
pointless statement. If VP had better ct half this would be a win for them too? kappa
2017-07-18 00:15
VP had better ct half
2017-07-18 00:41
NIce game from VP. the mistakes they made killed a better looking scoreline but still gg!
2017-07-18 00:13
#475
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Poland mamba99999 
VP giving me a heart attack.
2017-07-18 00:13
This is officialy the end of This fnatic lineup...
2017-07-18 00:13
11-16?
2017-07-18 00:14
#525
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CIS Merlas_mtk 
with 2 winning pistol rounds 11 rounds is bad
2017-07-18 02:00
they won both pistol rounds and Virtus.pro fucked up so many 4v3s and such though lol
2017-07-18 15:09
#478
Snax | 
Poland Waynerek 
POLISH PLOW IS BACK
2017-07-18 00:13
nice vp <3
2017-07-18 00:13
#482
Anders | 
Norway anMu 
Thx Krimz for throwing can't kill guy from behind in A main fucking BOT SkinHead.
2017-07-18 00:14
2 days ago 90% comments "vp 0-3 ez pick'em pick" LUL
2017-07-18 00:14
#484
Taz | 
Brazil adfinem 
gg
2017-07-18 00:14
Fnatic won 2 pistols and lost match 11-16. Virtus.Plow too strong !! :) good job guys! <3
2017-07-18 00:14
if neo would win those two 1v1 it would end like 16:5
2017-07-18 00:16
+1
2017-07-18 00:18
sad to see fnatic in that slump. i wish they will back on top once again. maybe by making 1 or 2 changes. dunno really whom shouldve they change but magic isnt working anymore. gj to vp, pasha 2014 strikes back!
2017-07-18 00:16
Yeah, it's pretty sad to see fnatic struggle. They were so dominant! I am happy that Pasha strikes back. He has been showing improvements lately.
2017-07-18 00:20
ive got a strange feeling vp is gonna reach at least semis. snax as igl is just amazing rn. finally theres a good igl and finally theyre listening him. it reminds me a bit kato'14. good igl(neo-now snax), byali on fire, pasha strikes back, taz from time to time gets some good kills. something is in the air!
2017-07-18 00:23
Let's see. I would like them to get back in shape - they have potential. I hope fnatic get in shape too - that was a beast of a team. Sad to see great teams underperforming badly. On the other had SK domination is as boring as impressive. Faze/Astra hype is boring. NaVI not delivering is simply pathetic. I was really happy to see BIG stun their opponents. I even got hyped a bit with their perfomance. Gambit beat G2 nicely... oh G2 - what a disappointment. What else: Immortals - weird team - I guess they are too young to calm down. Flipside - T2 team that has flashes of something that makes sense. Mousesports - another developing team (I was so glad they beat Niko's new overrated team). Penta - they solidify, then can achieve something. North - washed out and lucky copy of Astralis. In the end: go go go VP and fnatic. Hopefully BIG, mousesports and Penta start meaning something.
2017-07-18 00:34
I have to say that i agree with u at everything
2017-07-18 09:09
#492
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Sweden GODOLLE 
fnatic losing the most important round because krimz cant kill neo from behind is just sad
2017-07-18 00:17
GGWP VP.. sucks to see your favourite team underperform :/
2017-07-18 00:18
papito
2017-07-18 00:19
EZ
2017-07-18 00:20
what? rip fnatic. godsent/fnatic split v2 inc
2017-07-18 00:21
Nice to see VP in good shape again.
2017-07-18 00:34
#512
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Turkey KEBABPOWERGG 
papa biceps
2017-07-18 00:39
I just wanna say I saw Krimz have possibilities to win rounds in this game he didnt take, but still nice game
2017-07-18 00:51
#523
 | 
United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
VP are now 2-0. I predicted VP would do well at the Majors, but people stated differently. People never learn... :/
2017-07-18 01:18
vp always do well in majors :/
2017-07-18 12:23
#526
 | 
France Dov 
Lets be honest Vega and fnatic are not some crazy oponents
2017-07-18 03:31
so true. Does not mean much. VP can still go out in groups or most likely quarters.
2017-07-18 10:23
#529
 | 
Luxembourg alex24 
kick KRIMZ hes so garbage
2017-07-18 10:13
#531
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Sweden WillarN 
nah his good they should win instead
2017-07-18 10:20
#534
 | 
Luxembourg alex24 
dennis is carrying flusha is calling jw is doing jw things olof is supporting what the hell is krimz doing ? he seems so confused on the map
2017-07-18 10:59
#535
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Sweden WillarN 
the whole fnatic team is confused cuz no igl just 5 bulldogs
2017-07-18 11:41
#536
 | 
Luxembourg alex24 
they just play FPL style, no strats, no real communication this style might have worked in 2014-2015 but not now...
2017-07-18 11:44
#537
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Sweden WillarN 
yeah half 2k16 worked ok but now its gone
2017-07-18 11:45
2017-07-18 15:07
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