Maps
Best of 3
* Swiss round 3 (teams with a 1-1 record)
1. Virtus.pro removed Overpass
2. Liquid removed Nuke
3. Virtus.pro picked Inferno
4. Liquid picked Mirage
5. Virtus.pro removed Train
6. Liquid removed Cache
7. Cobblestone was left over
Rewatch
StarLadder (Pre-Match Analysis)Vod
StarLadder (Map 1 - Inferno)Vod
StarLadder (Intermission Analysis)Vod
StarLadder (Map 2 - Mirage)Vod
StarLadder (Post-Match Analysis)Vod
StarLadder (Post-Match Interview with nitr0)Vod
StarLadder (Map 1 - Inferno)Vod
StarLadder (Map 2 - Mirage)Vod
StarLadder (Pre-Match Analysis)VodStarLadder (Map 1 - Inferno)VodStarLadder (Intermission Analysis)VodStarLadder (Map 2 - Mirage)VodStarLadder (Post-Match Analysis)VodStarLadder (Post-Match Interview with nitr0)VodStarLadder (Map 1 - Inferno)VodStarLadder (Map 2 - Mirage)VodHighlights
byali secures the first buy round with a 3k (Inferno)
pashaBiceps triple kill on the offense (Inferno)
EliGE triple kill hold (Inferno)
NAF anti-eco ACE (Inferno)
NEO 1v2 clutch (Inferno)
EliGE triple kill on the offense (Inferno)
NEO 1v3 clutch (Mirage)
MICHU triple kill on the defense (Mirage)
nitr0 opens up the site with a quick double (Mirage)
Twistzz enables the retake with a 3k (Mirage)
Match stats
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
NAF
|
57-25 | +32 | 114.3 | 87.8% | 1.83 |
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
nitr0
|
40-25 | +15 | 81.7 | 77.6% | 1.34 |
|
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
EliGE
|
39-34 | +5 | 99.4 | 83.7% | 1.32 |
|
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Twistzz
|
32-29 | +3 | 66.1 | 81.6% | 1.07 |
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
steel
|
29-28 | +1 | 65.3 | 81.6% | 1.05 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
byali
|
36-37 | -1 | 78.4 | 71.4% | 1.07 |
|
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
pashaBiceps
|
33-37 | -4 | 78.9 | 69.4% | 0.99 |
|
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
MICHU
|
28-41 | -13 | 66.0 | 67.3% | 0.77 |
|
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
NEO
|
25-41 | -16 | 63.2 | 53.1% | 0.70 |
|
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Snax
|
19-41 | -22 | 51.2 | 53.1% | 0.55 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
NAF
|
29-11 | +18 | 115.1 | 87.0% | 1.86 |
|
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
EliGE
|
17-14 | +3 | 115.9 | 91.3% | 1.49 |
|
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
nitr0
|
19-8 | +11 | 77.0 | 87.0% | 1.48 |
|
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
steel
|
15-13 | +2 | 78.4 | 91.3% | 1.26 |
|
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Twistzz
|
16-12 | +4 | 63.6 | 87.0% | 1.17 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
byali
|
19-16 | +3 | 85.6 | 73.9% | 1.24 |
|
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
pashaBiceps
|
12-18 | -6 | 61.8 | 73.9% | 0.84 |
|
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
MICHU
|
12-21 | -9 | 52.7 | 60.9% | 0.60 |
|
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
NEO
|
8-20 | -12 | 52.5 | 47.8% | 0.53 |
|
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Snax
|
7-21 | -14 | 40.2 | 52.2% | 0.47 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
NAF
|
28-14 | +14 | 113.6 | 88.5% | 1.81 |
|
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
nitr0
|
21-17 | +4 | 85.9 | 69.2% | 1.21 |
|
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
EliGE
|
22-20 | +2 | 84.8 | 76.9% | 1.19 |
|
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Twistzz
|
16-17 | -1 | 68.4 | 76.9% | 1.00 |
|
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
steel
|
14-15 | -1 | 53.7 | 73.1% | 0.87 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
pashaBiceps
|
21-19 | +2 | 94.0 | 65.4% | 1.17 |
|
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
byali
|
17-21 | -4 | 72.0 | 69.2% | 0.93 |
|
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
MICHU
|
16-20 | -4 | 77.8 | 73.1% | 0.93 |
|
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
NEO
|
17-21 | -4 | 72.6 | 57.7% | 0.87 |
|
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Snax
|
12-20 | -8 | 60.9 | 53.8% | 0.65 |
Past matches
Head to head
| Cobblestone | 4 - 16 | |
| Best of 3 | 2 - 1 | |
| Best of 3 | 1 - 2 | |
| Mirage | 16 - 14 | |
| Cobblestone | 16 - 6 |
| 15/9 17 |  |
 |
ESL One New York 2017 |
mrg
Mirage
|
16 - 5 | ||
| 15/9 17 | |
|
ESL One New York 2017 |
nuke
Nuke
|
6 - 16 | ||
| 15/9 17 | |
|
ESL One New York 2017 |
inf
Inferno
|
16 - 10 | ||
| 7/9 17 | |
|
ESG Tour Mykonos 2017 |
mrg
Mirage
|
10 - 16 |
prize pool so low for an extent event
Compared to other events in last couple years it is low prize pool. These caliber of teams usually compete for much more
nah he is right tho
they have a 10 day event and pay 16 teams (let's say 6-7 persons per team) 9-10 nights hotel, transfer, flights
and then pay 130k for the winner. i agree with him, it's low compared to other events. why stretch the tournament with bo3 swiss? just play 2 bo3 per day or only make elimination matches bo3. and then pay out what u save for hotel and transer as prize money. ez 250k for the winner alone and 100 for 2nd etc
angry poorlak XD
lol danish muslim ?
no we are not sweden :)
sk vs vp
ez g2
ez for astralis
EZ Liquid
Ez for liquid
VP can win a map
ez 4 neo[t]
Liquid @1.37 (1u)
Just one unit because it is barely a value bet IMO!
VPs time
OK, VP could win, but the odds here are insane. I would say this is a 55/45 match in favor of liquid but the VP fanboys seem to think it's 70/30 in favor of VP. We'll see.
very possible for VP 60/40 game for Liquid IMO
NAF vs Michu
ez for NA killers
liquid still looking like doodoo atm
Put up a good fight vs Astralis and handled RNG like they should have. Doo doo is fnatic rn
He is a rising star but not that great compared to of course the other 4, he has had a lot of tiem to develop and play against good teams maybe VP beating Liquid today will be good experience for him.
na that nigga garbage fuck u mean
True is liquid its a no name like mvp.
Go, go VP!
nice english lol
It is english from london school
liquid max & relax. ez money.
ez 4 NAF
we will see
pray for VP, aka the underdogs
VP all in!
oh wait... this isn't rigged like epiceneter
VP huge underdogs vs chokequid?? Golden rule bois
Golden rule is not available at the moment, easy liquid
Its gonna be vry close.. i think VP is gonna take it in OT in 3rd map... Csgo Nostradamus here.
Its gonna be vry close.. i think VP is gonna take it in OT in 3rd map... Csgo Nostradamus here.
lol
Vp still picking inferno? Holy fuck
Vp please win ,I don’t want see pasha step down :(
Inferno 12-16 VP
Mirage 9-16 Liq
Cbble 10-16 Liq
VP HAS NO MAP POOL
ONLY SOLID ON COBBLE AND NUKE
QUICKIE 16-9 16-6 FOR LULQUIDS
yeah i agree, they lost so many games in mdl online to tier 10 teams on inferno
VP PICKED INFERNO ? HAHAH WON'T GET 10 ROUNDS ON IT
Liquid had 4 a stacked and vp only had 4 players alive. Wtf is liquid doing. Nitro playing around a smoke with an advantage is so dumb
Steel the worst player from top-30
Really dont understand why did they kick stanislaw for this monkey
diversity policies and virtue signalling
pretty much the only credible reasons cuz he's horrible in every match
NAF 1v9
god naf
Steel and twistz are full bots in pit
vp easy
GOLDEN RULE
FLASHBACKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
the golden rule is dead
ez liquid (i hope)
lul Golden rule..
i see VP, i bet against them -> ez profit
Not harder than being a virtus.premier fan
vp 2-0
4head
can't wait for steel to get kicked and get liquid gets a normal fifth
+ bad english
guardian at least LEM
steel gold nova 4
his english is good for someone that is using english as his 2nd language
his english is okay for conversations
his english is poor for fast comms and decision making, even said it himself after summit2
If steel isn’t the igl he serves zero purpose in this team
But when players do go where he is he just full sprays behind them. Vp went a on gun rounds like 4 straight rounds and he had like 1 kill
How do you miss the easiest smoke in the game
EliGE killed byali with m4a1
EliGE killed MICHU with m4a1
EliGE killed Snax with m4a1
lets go
ez 4 NAF
was that a buyround? i cant watch the stream right now
Happy naf got the eco. Vp have been avoiding b site and he hasn’t been able to do much this game except for trying to retake liquids awful a hold early
They haven’t gotten bama control once. They are lucky liquid was bad a early on.
more like top 15
more like top 10
more like go fuck yourself ok ?
no .. i known how u women play on the bed .. so i dont need that
steel 4 kills and still lose the round bad luck steelega
Vp have zero concept of how to play inferno. They didn’t push the b players out of bananaonce with nades. Not one gun round went b
run liquid gaming 16-6
Did VP just lose that pistolround with a 4 man banana stack and Liquid rushed banana? How?
Could've easily been the round to turn the game around, now it's a rough one for VP.
Xddd
hahahaha byali missed like 5 usp shots in a row and enemy guy didn't even look at him
nitr0 planted the bomb (1on0)
Round over - Winner: T (10-6) - Enemy eliminated
nitr0 killed Snax with usp_silencer (headshot)
nitr0 killed NEO with glock
NEO killed NAF with usp_silencer (headshot)
NAF killed MICHU with glock (headshot)
MICHU killed Twistzz with usp_silencer (headshot)
MICHU killed EliGE with usp_silencer (headshot)
NAF killed byali with glock (headshot)
EliGE killed pashaBiceps with glock (headshot)
byali killed steel with usp_silencer
Round started
....
what about it ? is it the first time you saw someone losing 2v1 stfu cry nerdigan
They are just bad
byali misses 5 usp shots in a row when enemy player doesn't even look at him
It would have been 5v2 round if byali just hits a shit there
3. Virtus.pro picked Inferno
Against VP? That’s expected
VP adding MICHU didn't do shit, they still suck just as bad as when they had TaZ
And now AGO became shittier after getting 2 year contracts
RIP Polish CS
Snax 4-18 hahahahahaha
"best polish player"
Even if liquid went a they were favored. Vp were playing all in a site for some dumb reason. They have no clue how to play this map
10 TOTAL KILLS ON CT IN 5 ROUNDS
VP NO CLUE ON CT SIDE WITH TWO 30-YEAR OLD PLAYERS WHO HAVE 500MS DELAYED REACTIONS AND SNAX WHO HAS NO MUSCLES TO MOVE HIS MOVES TOO MUCH FAT
no fat shaming, body acceptance ftw!!!!
Dear Friend!
May I Ask you Sir, How much?
HAHHA RIPED MY ASSHOLE FOR $450
Why does vp think playing 3 in the site is a good idea. It doesn’t work at all. Teams even push out into 3-4 people because standing in the bombsite you just lose as a ct
this is pathetic
1
2
3
4
players ,,advantege,, for VP and they are still geting rekt in that rounds hahahah
lose inferno to MVP PK
pick it vs Liquid
Xizt level vetoes
5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 V 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3 5-3
6-16 6-166-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-166-166-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16 6-16
MICHU is a good player, but VP is a bad team... Blaming their problems on TaZ but still failing after replacing him with a much better fragger, it only proves the rest of them are the problem. Poor TaZ didnt have a chance to do anything with this dying team
ez for windigo gaming
I see VP, i bet against them -> ez miney
thats the new golden rule boys
unlike u im betting between 500-1000 bucks per match so leave me alone with your 30 cents :)
btw cry is free
rip
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with usp_silencer (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with usp_silencer (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with usp_silencer (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with usp_silencer (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with m4a1 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
Snax 7-21
roflmao
hltv.org/stats/players/events/2553/Snax?..
not true
+ he is surrounded by idiots
i would instantly kick neo and pasha but they won't get rid of pasha because hes the ger right of vp. face for the fans and merchandise seller no.1
Virtus,Poop always pick their worst map inferno and lose everytime.
Polska logic
WTF is steel doing first he wide swings for no reason in window and then instantly peeks off a bomb tap
ez 16-0 for liquid grampa.premier have no chance
1.6
no
Round over - Winner: CT (1-1) - Bomb defused
NEO defused the bomb
NEO killed steel with galilar
NEO killed Twistzz with galilar (headshot)
NEO killed nitr0 with deagle
nitr0 planted the bomb (3on1)
steel killed pashaBiceps with ak47 (headshot)
Twistzz killed MICHU with ump45 (headshot)
steel killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed NAF with deagle (headshot)
NAF killed byali with galilar (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed EliGE with deagle (headshot)
Round started
Huge clutch from Neo, could really give VP a nice ct side here and I'd love to see a third map, being the VP fan I am.
Edit: And obviously I want VP to win that third if they do get there, but to even win a map versus Liquid, and it being the map pick by Liquid, would be huge. A win would be so much better though, but still.
Well you're just salty so I won't try to argue...
Edit: salty.
Doesn't make the clutch less good though, does it?
He still had to get that position, win the duel and check the off angle in connector, and sure Steel might've misplayed a little bit, but Neo capitalized on his mistakes.
Nothing more to add to it, it was a great clutch. He didn't even had any armor.
Round over - Winner: CT (1-1) - Bomb defused
NEO defused the bomb
NEO killed steel with galilar
NEO killed Twistzz with galilar (headshot)
NEO killed nitr0 with deagle
nitr0 planted the bomb (3on1)
steel killed pashaBiceps with ak47 (headshot)
Twistzz killed MICHU with ump45 (headshot)
steel killed Snax with ak47 (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed NAF with deagle (headshot)
NAF killed byali with galilar (headshot)
pashaBiceps killed EliGE with deagle (headshot)
Round started
LULquid
VP just must kick Pashito and bring to team mentally stable player and most important skilled AWP player
Holy fuck Snax wtf was that
hahahah snax so bad
why is VP picking inferno?!?! it was literally liquids best map for months now ....i start to believe they are losing on purpose
All that bad start because steel can’t wait 3 seconds in ct spawn against a half buy in a 1v1. Also goes for an impossible wide swing near murder hole for no reason
snax yesterday GOD
snax today BOT
:D
Pls kick steel off this team he tilts me so fucking much. Why not check balcony before going into window room so your team can execute onto a. And after you get that kill help your team get in a instead of being alone in window
I don’t understand he makes a god like play getting up connector so easily and then he isn’t trying to help his two teammates that are in palace at all. He plays with no brain when he I s supposed to be one of the smarter players on the team
pashaBiceps killed nitr0 with awp
pashaBiceps killed steel with awp
nitr0 killed byali with ak47
pashaBiceps killed EliGE with awp
papaaaaa
Why the fuck does VP pick inferno ?! They are shit on that map. It should be theirs map to ban, at least for now.
does sado have a speech impediment
byowi
-snax
+any global elite
where is papa haters ?
Can't lose those rounds VP, especially that being a pistolround... Such a good position for them to pretty much end the game or at least nearly do so.
solid retake liquid
boys in blue <3
Would have been nice if we were able to actually see it instead of someone flanking on the other side of the map
lol +1
since the whole last year you fish
Naf about to go god mode on ct side
NAF so good
0 T rounds for virtus shit
and pls stop showing Pashito POV this is eyes cancer
Most likely the same outcome, because VP sucks
tbf Liquid has been looking extremely better with NAF instead of bot jdm
So unlucky,VP, so sadly. JUST START TO NORMAL PLAY!
uhhm if theyd win they wouldnt have to change anything?
VPs era is over anyway.. these guys are just in for the money by now
I don't care, I just want people to keep betting on them while they suck.
taz was the problem?? ..
choke is real
When TL signed NAF (money well spent, eh) I thought he would improve much of TL's late game. ... In addition to that, rounds aren't randomly crumbling in ways they used to for this team.
NAF has been the most criminally underrated NA player for quite a while.
He was already a carry when OpTiC were at their best, and oddly enough, the one left with nothing when OpTiC disbanded to join other teams..
Easily a top 3 NA player to me. Has been for a good while.
I've been preaching the verse of NAF 57-25 since he was on LG... I'm already converted and I agree.
It’s obvious he was insane. Every player always talks about how good he is. And dazed loves naf also.
And Dazed was also LG's coach for a short period of time ;)
If it were that obvious, it wouldn't have taken the general community, including some analysts, more than three years to come to the same conclusion.
I think the analysts didn’t like how up and down he was in old teams. And then in optic he was insane but they had rush Tarik Mixwell and Stan all also getting kills and he was the passive semi lurk player so his job was basically just get one key kill and that is it.
Moses probably didn’t like his attitude early on and all the Eu analysts don’t watch enough na cs to have good enough opinions on less known players.
ez money right here
9:4 to 10:16, fucking my +5.5
HAHAHAhA POORLAND SCENE PLEASE RETIRE PASHABRAINDEAD AND BOT NEO
NAF +32 what a performance
nafez
Snax being ranked in the 2017 top 20 was a disgrace
he was solid first 3 months where they placed good on lans
And dog shit for the next 9
+100
100
+100
"A lot of freshness and a boost of motivation" L U L
This is a joke. They change only one player but now they will half year talking we need time... nothing change
+
after 3 months ,,Michu need a more time,,
after 6 months ,,Michu make huge progres but still not close to TIER1 competition,,
after 12 months ,,VP drop CS:GO team,,
and same time every month on Pasha Neo bank acount ~~25k 4Head
Why so upset about someone's salary? They worked and achieved results. If team doesn't improve they will lose the salary. Get over it. People as so butthurt over someone making great money which is a result of hard work.
Grab popcorn and enjoy VP crumbling. It's just a matter of time. Something went totally wrong.
I still don't get why is it your problem that they earn that much money. You don't pay them, leave financial matters to VP owners. They make investments, not you. If you are upset that someone doesn't deserve the money, then make your own org and then make decisions.
Criticize their performance. Absolutely fine. Laugh at them. Mock them.
Their salary isn't your business. You don't pay them. Focus on gameplay. Leave financial matters to investors.
Nope. The fact you know something doesn't allow you to judge someone's eligibility for that salary. It's investors' risk to continue collaboration with unstable/unreliable performers. You are a viewer. You can judge someone's performance, but not his/her salary. You didn't put that many hours to get where they are now. You don't pay their salary. You just know more or less how much they earn. Put as many hours as they did, and let's see what you say at that point.
Enjoy games.
Bash underperformers.
Leave money issues to those are concerned. You aren't. There is no point for you to be apart the fact you and many others don't like the fact VP earn so much despite failing. Get over it.
Hadn't you known how much they earned you would question their salary during low performance period, ergo not your business. Not mine. Not anyone's on HLTV.
ye idd. NOT TAZ WAS A PROBLEM BUT MONEY :)
THEY EARN TOO MUCH .... SO SAD.
Is it jealousy on your end or laziness? Start working or work harder. That will bring you to better salary, prestige, self-esteem and you will stop paying attention to someone else making "too much". I don't get why people like you complain about someone else's salary.
its not about me kanker. Its about this fatty VP bois. Give me 30.000 per month for playing computer game ... Ill get it
Jealousy.
You just can't handle the fact they play like shit and still get paid.
Get over it. Life isn't fair.
Noone is going to give you shit.
Earn your pay.
They paved their way to this salary with past performances. They put thousands of hours to get there. Did you do the same? Nah, otherwise you wouldn't bet posting on HLTV.
life is not fait thats obv... im talking about VP noobs .
disband them
Send them eviction notice.
again you? go trolling somewhere else
I know a good place for you - Mars or Venus. Either way you will get a good treatment.
GET A LIFE?
You are asking me how to do it? Dunno. Go to Mars maybe? Go to Venus? Or maybe go to Anus? The last one fits you most imo, but do whatever you are pleased. HF.
ur mum told u this? she is so smart ,... but cheap as f_ck
So being smart, is so cheap you can't handle it?
Wow... that's sad. Maybe get better or over it?
Virtus.Pro picked Inferno.
WTF ?
how i knew snax will play like a bot against a better team nothing new since feb 2017
NAF is a complete beast, holy fuck... If he keeps this up, he will be easily a top10 player in 2018.
Snax so bad
Struggle.Pro. Sad to watch them fall, but show must go on. Quite possible they will join fnatic in "Tier Struggle".
NAF at his peek, what a beast.
top 20 inc
seriously vp is so bad. ITS NOT TAZ , ITS NOT NEO, ITS JUST THEY EARN TOO MUCH MONEY AND THEY DONT CARE
Get over it. Life isn't fair. Bitching about it won't suddenly change the way things are. Make a poll to VP's owners to cut their salary if you're so salty. Make a social movement. Start your own org.
I will. And you will be our teams bitch
You would have to get there first, so you can make financial decisions. Keep working on it.
