17:00
6th of April 2018
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 3 * Upper bracket semi-final
1. Fragsters removed Cobblestone
2. HellRaisers removed Nuke
3. Fragsters picked Train
4. HellRaisers picked Overpass
5. Fragsters removed Mirage
6. HellRaisers removed Cache
7. Inferno was left over
Train
16:8 (10:5; 6:3)STATS
Overpass
16:12 (9:6; 7:6)STATS
Inferno
Rewatch
United KingdomStarLadder (Map 1 - Train)Vod
United KingdomStarLadder (Map 2 - Overpass)Vod
RussiaStarLadder (Map 1 - Train)Vod
RussiaStarLadder (Map 2 - Overpass)Vod
Highlights
M1 | ISSAA - 4 HS kills (3 Famas, USP-S) on the bombsite A defense (vs mostly upgraded pistols)
M1 | woxic - 3 AWP kills on the bombsite A defense (initial frags)
M1 | torben - 1vs2 clutch (CT - pre-plant situation)
M2 | stavn - 3 USP-S HS kills on the bombsite B defense (2vs3 situation - pistol round)
M2 | ANGE1 - 4 AK kills (2 HS) on the bombsite A offensive
M2 | torben - 1vs2 clutch (T - pre-plant situation)
M2 | bondik - 1vs2 clutch (CT - pre-plant situation)
Match stats
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Turkey
Özgür 'woxic' Eker
woxic
49-30 +19 94.8 75.0% 1.44
Ukraine
Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
ANGE1
44-37 +7 106.9 73.1% 1.41
Jordan
Issa 'ISSAA' Murad
ISSAA
45-31 +14 83.4 80.8% 1.26
Ukraine
Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
bondik
42-29 +13 75.5 75.0% 1.24
Hungary
Bence 'DeadFox' Böröcz
DeadFox
21-37 -16 49.4 69.2% 0.77
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Jacob 'dragonfly' Lund
dragonfly
37-38 -1 78.5 69.2% 1.01
Denmark
Nicolai 'torben' Amorim
torben
34-40 -6 71.2 69.2% 0.99
Denmark
Martin 'stavn' Lund
stavn
37-42 -5 76.8 59.6% 0.87
Denmark
Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
refrezh
29-40 -11 69.0 63.5% 0.87
Denmark
Lucas 'Bubski' Andersen
Bubski
27-42 -15 65.3 55.8% 0.76
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Ukraine
Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
ANGE1
20-17 +3 114.0 87.5% 1.59
Turkey
Özgür 'woxic' Eker
woxic
25-13 +12 95.4 75.0% 1.49
Jordan
Issa 'ISSAA' Murad
ISSAA
22-15 +7 88.7 87.5% 1.29
Ukraine
Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
bondik
15-13 +2 60.8 79.2% 1.03
Hungary
Bence 'DeadFox' Böröcz
DeadFox
12-14 -2 52.7 70.8% 0.94
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Jacob 'dragonfly' Lund
dragonfly
19-18 +1 94.3 70.8% 1.17
Denmark
Nicolai 'torben' Amorim
torben
17-18 -1 74.4 70.8% 1.06
Denmark
Martin 'stavn' Lund
stavn
16-20 -4 83.3 62.5% 0.80
Denmark
Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
refrezh
11-18 -7 64.0 58.3% 0.73
Denmark
Lucas 'Bubski' Andersen
Bubski
9-21 -12 43.7 50.0% 0.54
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Ukraine
Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
bondik
27-16 +11 88.2 71.4% 1.43
Turkey
Özgür 'woxic' Eker
woxic
24-17 +7 94.4 75.0% 1.41
Ukraine
Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
ANGE1
24-20 +4 100.9 60.7% 1.26
Jordan
Issa 'ISSAA' Murad
ISSAA
23-16 +7 79.0 75.0% 1.24
Hungary
Bence 'DeadFox' Böröcz
DeadFox
9-23 -14 46.5 67.9% 0.64
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Ismail 'refrezh' Ali
refrezh
18-22 -4 73.2 67.9% 1.01
Denmark
Lucas 'Bubski' Andersen
Bubski
18-21 -3 83.8 60.7% 0.97
Denmark
Nicolai 'torben' Amorim
torben
17-22 -5 68.6 67.9% 0.93
Denmark
Martin 'stavn' Lund
stavn
21-22 -1 71.2 57.1% 0.92
Denmark
Jacob 'dragonfly' Lund
dragonfly
18-20 -2 65.0 67.9% 0.88
Player of the matchwon with 82.6% of the votes
Head to head
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Wins
0
Overtimes
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Wins
#3
Europe hmb 
ez for godxic
2018-04-06 04:46
#4
 | 
Denmark KamaraD 
ez 4 HellRaisers
2018-04-06 05:46
#6
kebab | 
Turkey okokaslan 
godxic CARRY
2018-04-06 09:02
#7
 | 
Turkey cagataygs5 
Ez 4 w0xic
2018-04-06 09:29
#8
 | 
Denmark dev1cetop1 
ez woxic
2018-04-06 13:51
#9
 | 
Turkey Thunderball 
lets fo fragsters
2018-04-06 14:22
ez for ANGE1 & Co 2-0
2018-04-06 15:27
#11
 | 
CIS crazex 
izi woxic 2-0
2018-04-06 16:06
should be pretty ez for onlinesters
2018-04-06 16:09
#13
 | 
Russia hanzjosha 
cant believe that HR can lose to refrezh
2018-04-06 16:19
Fragsters 2 0
2018-04-06 16:21
No chance to hellraiser lost this bets.master gonna do everything to hr win
2018-04-06 16:23
#16
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Denmark RealPissant 
Woxic will destroy Fragsters!
2018-04-06 16:23
#17
 | 
United Kingdom C4Golden 
Hellraisers 2-1 Fragsters
2018-04-06 16:25
go fragsters !
2018-04-06 16:28
ez for best danish team on the planet
2018-04-06 16:30
#20
 | 
Oceania Bumperer 
Fack Fragsters win so easy for north
2018-04-06 16:30
Ez 4 bondik
2018-04-06 16:37
why did hltv show train & ovp for a sec? lol
2018-04-06 16:41
2-0 for HR
2018-04-06 16:43
#31
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Europe FlyGamed 
I think, quite ez for HR Fragsters can beat 10-11 rounds in every map, but no win for them actually
2018-04-06 16:45
#32
 | 
African Union lexdivina 
Go woxic....
2018-04-06 16:48
#34
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
2-1 for hr
2018-04-06 16:54
how the fuck fragsters lost 4v2.
2018-04-06 16:58
Ez map hr 2-0
2018-04-06 16:58
#37
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
guys EZ MONEY or rip ? :D ctrlv.cz/abmn
2018-04-06 17:01
#39
blameF | 
Russia Nav1cat 
ez money for sure, man
2018-04-06 17:02
no money there kid. only skins. nerd
2018-04-06 17:04
#50
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CIS Ezpzy 
oh man, if they lose train...
2018-04-06 17:09
#51
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
bye bye skins
2018-04-06 17:09
#54
 | 
CIS Ezpzy 
They can comeback on ct side, don't give up
2018-04-06 17:15
lol fragsters so dumb, gg 2-0 ez
2018-04-06 17:04
#42
 | 
Russia hanzjosha 
this fragsters man :D they dont even taking control of B halls xd
2018-04-06 17:04
glad i was watching scorebot, would hate to have witnessed that round as a fragsters bettor
2018-04-06 17:04
#49
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Russia hanzjosha 
it was madness around main =D
2018-04-06 17:08
On bets master who win pistol its mean they lose
2018-04-06 17:06
pick train loose 14-1 13-2 t side. 2nd map 16-5. what a bots and they rekt vp
2018-04-06 17:12
#55
 | 
CIS Ezpzy 
they will win train, check
2018-04-06 17:18
#58
JZFB | 
Lithuania gime114 
K
2018-04-06 17:20
#56
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
cmn fragsters
2018-04-06 17:18
#57
shroud | 
Europe Sizexd 
6-1 6-5 chokereisers
2018-04-06 17:19
#59
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
6-1 6-16 lmao
2018-04-06 17:20
Bondik absolutely bot, I don't know how HR managed to give B site to this retard.
2018-04-06 17:22
He need to watch Ropz demo.
2018-04-06 17:22
the chocolate guy 90s will smith hair lmao. and he has kebab name
2018-04-06 17:23
Ez 4 csgo spawn
2018-04-06 17:25
#64
 | 
Israel lolzer 
ISSA woxic vs fragsters
2018-04-06 17:25
fragsters freaking retarded
2018-04-06 17:26
#66
 | 
Slovakia VerySloVACGuy 
3x 1v1 in a row ...well
2018-04-06 17:28
#67
 | 
CIS Ezpzy 
3 times 1vs1 lost feelsbadman
2018-04-06 17:28
hr so lucky
2018-04-06 17:28
loosing every single 1v1 due to being dumb af. danish nubz gg 2 0
2018-04-06 17:28
#71
 | 
CIS Ezpzy 
hr can't play t side on train frags can win
2018-04-06 17:29
they have 2 real life terrorists. wtf u talking about
2018-04-06 17:32
#70
 | 
Israel lolzer 
3x 1v1 and loose 2x bomb posed with advantage .....
2018-04-06 17:29
#72
shroud | 
Europe Sizexd 
Round over - Winner: CT (10-6) - Enemy eliminated dragonfly killed ANGE1 with usp_silencer (headshot) stavn killed woxic with usp_silencer (headshot) ANGE1 killed torben with p250 (headshot) stavn killed ISSAA with usp_silencer (headshot) stavn killed bondik with usp_silencer (headshot) torben killed DeadFox with hkp2000 (headshot) ISSAA killed Bubski with glock (headshot) ISSAA killed refrezh with glock (headshot) Round started ahahah another 5 vs 3 pistol round
2018-04-06 17:31
#73
 | 
Israel lolzer 
that gr xd nice strat fragsters
2018-04-06 17:31
#74
 | 
CIS Ezpzy 
another 5vs3 pistols, what a trashgame
2018-04-06 17:31
win both pistol rounds on ur own map pick. loose map and match 2-0 ez
2018-04-06 17:32
Again 5v3 pistol Nice hellraisers rip handicap
2018-04-06 17:32
2 pistol 2 lose 5v3 Shiteaisers lose train
2018-04-06 17:32
Haha they will win they play in ukranian
2018-04-06 17:35
easiest 2 0 ever
2018-04-06 17:33
#80
 | 
Israel lolzer 
ISSA and woxic play dm so ez....
2018-04-06 17:33
#81
 | 
Brazil mvieira5 
won both pistols lost both antiecos
2018-04-06 17:33
very impressive cz force by HR. good teamwork. this should end quick.
2018-04-06 17:33
how did vp loose to these nuuuuuubs wtf
2018-04-06 17:33
#84
 | 
Sweden frontex 
fragsters loose versus pistols twice holy shit
2018-04-06 17:34
#85
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
cz75a.. yea
2018-04-06 17:34
2018 and people still misspelling lose
2018-04-06 17:34
finnish robot
2018-04-06 17:35
wouldn't have pointed it out if I didn't constantly see it misspelled here more often than not I'd say
2018-04-06 17:36
#87
Czech Republic Wer_ 
ForcebuyRaisers
2018-04-06 17:35
#88
 | 
Ukraine TimaSicK 
omg Fragsters Win 2x pistol despite being 3v5 Lose following anti eco VP lose to this?
2018-04-06 17:35
Round over - Winner: T (11-6) - Enemy eliminated ISSAA killed stavn with famas bondik killed dragonfly with cz75a dragonfly killed ANGE1 with famas (headshot) ANGE1 killed refrezh with cz75a (headshot) ISSAA killed Bubski with cz75a ANGE1 planted the bomb (3on4) ISSAA killed torben with cz75a Bubski killed woxic with famas torben killed DeadFox with famas (headshot) Round started danish choke
2018-04-06 17:35
pick a map win both pistols. 4-16 down. vp lost to these... wtf polish scene is dead af. rip ancient fucks
2018-04-06 17:38
Man its a ukranian cup betmaster gona do everything to hr win
2018-04-06 17:40
hmmm shut up :D
2018-04-06 17:40
#95
 | 
Israel lolzer 
HR 3 bots 1 netplayer 1 terrorist
2018-04-06 17:39
#96
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
5-6 > 6-16 nice pick
2018-04-06 17:40
wtfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff 6-16 won both pistols. lost soo many dumb rounds. jesus this team such a trash and this stavn guy is cheater. cant go beast mode every single game online and suck this much on lan. fcking kid noob
2018-04-06 17:41
That game looks same like with north vs botsent
2018-04-06 17:43
Map 2 fragster will win few round after when people start bet live odds they lose ukranian throw ruls
2018-04-06 17:47
#104
 | 
Israel lolzer 
woxic ISSA carry bots finish player
2018-04-06 17:48
Just save some money for ecs league because bets.master throw project for farming money
2018-04-06 17:48
Lol HR won and should always beat these shitsters
2018-04-06 17:53
#111
 | 
World Nydhogg 
you didn't know that ECS is fucking 1-1 throwleague?
2018-04-06 17:55
man you are one dumb motherfucker. how much kid?
2018-04-06 18:00
last time fragsters played overpass lost to "struggletony" 10-16. fml im all in 1000 eur on HR 2nd map fuck this crap
2018-04-06 17:52
#107
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Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
today all games 2-0 wtf
2018-04-06 17:52
Bets.master farming money
2018-04-06 17:53
ok ez 300 eur. lost 50, won 300 for this match surely. these guys from denmark are ultra dumb
2018-04-06 17:53
Stop chatting shit dickhead 1000euro :Dddd
2018-04-06 18:01
fuck off retard
2018-04-06 18:03
#112
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
2018-04-06 17:57
#113
 | 
World Nydhogg 
If Botsters will win Overpass I would not be even mad. This is all scripted.
2018-04-06 17:57
#115
 | 
Austria goodyear93 
when will gambit pla vs forze ?
2018-04-06 18:00
#117
 | 
Singapore zeke980 
Round over - Winner: T (1-0) - Enemy eliminated torben killed bondik with knife_gut torben killed woxic with knife_gut torben killed DeadFox with knife_gut woxic killed Bubski with knife_flip torben killed ANGE1 with knife_gut torben killed ISSAA with knife_gut ISSAA killed stavn with knife_karambit bondik killed dragonfly with knife_karambit ANGE1 killed refrezh with knife_karambit Clown fiesta
2018-04-06 18:03
#119
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
fragsters win pistol round :o and now rip vs cz75a ?? :D
2018-04-06 18:07
#120
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
omg....
2018-04-06 18:08
#121
 | 
China yakmonster 
Round over - Winner: CT (1-1) - Target saved stavn killed DeadFox with ump45 bondik killed refrezh with cz75a refrezh killed dragonfly with ak47 (headshot) dragonfly killed ISSAA with ak47 dragonfly killed ANGE1 with ak47 (headshot) ISSAA killed torben with cz75a ANGE1 killed Bubski with cz75a Round started Round over - Winner: T (1-0) - Enemy eliminated dragonfly killed bondik with hkp2000 (headshot) refrezh planted the bomb (3on1) refrezh killed ANGE1 with glock dragonfly killed woxic with glock (headshot) refrezh killed ISSAA with glock (headshot) refrezh killed DeadFox with glock ANGE1 killed torben with usp_silencer (headshot) ANGE1 killed Bubski with usp_silencer (headshot) Round started Round over - Winner: T (11-6) - Enemy eliminated ISSAA killed stavn with famas bondik killed dragonfly with cz75a dragonfly killed ANGE1 with famas (headshot) ANGE1 killed refrezh with cz75a (headshot) ISSAA killed Bubski with cz75a ANGE1 planted the bomb (3on4) ISSAA killed torben with cz75a Bubski killed woxic with famas torben killed DeadFox with famas (headshot) Round started Round over - Winner: CT (10-6) - Enemy eliminated dragonfly killed ANGE1 with usp_silencer (headshot) stavn killed woxic with usp_silencer (headshot) ANGE1 killed torben with p250 (headshot) stavn killed ISSAA with usp_silencer (headshot) stavn killed bondik with usp_silencer (headshot) torben killed DeadFox with hkp2000 (headshot) ISSAA killed Bubski with glock (headshot) ISSAA killed refrezh with glock (headshot) Round started Round over - Winner: T (1-1) - Enemy eliminated ISSAA killed torben with famas (headshot) ISSAA killed stavn with famas (headshot) ANGE1 killed dragonfly with famas ISSAA killed refrezh with cz75a (headshot) ANGE1 killed Bubski with cz75a stavn killed bondik with m4a1 Round started Round over - Winner: CT (0-1) - Enemy eliminated stavn killed DeadFox with usp_silencer (headshot) stavn killed ISSAA with usp_silencer (headshot) stavn killed bondik with usp_silencer (headshot) ISSAA killed refrezh with glock (headshot) refrezh killed woxic with usp_silencer (headshot) refrezh killed ANGE1 with usp_silencer (headshot) ANGE1 killed Bubski with glock (headshot) ANGE1 killed dragonfly with glock (headshot) Round started wut the fk ? 3 pistols happend same things : HR got 2kills first and lose 5v3 ...
2018-04-06 18:11
#125
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China yakmonster 
and frags lose to HR pistol 4cebuy 3times after that ...
2018-04-06 18:10
#122
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
Fragsters 3x win pistol round 3x rip vs force .. WOW
2018-04-06 18:08
#123
Snax | 
India editz10 
Win pistol lost 2nd round hahahhah 3rd time gg
2018-04-06 18:09
ahahahha xDDD ezzzzzzzz every single force buy they will loose ez hr 2 0 thx for 250
2018-04-06 18:09
bubski looks like mge at most. wtf.... how are these kind of players getting payed...
2018-04-06 18:10
#129
autist | 
Germany rayN^ 
they dont get a lot and they bring kinda decent results online, thats mostly enough for a lower tier org
2018-04-06 18:10
fucking bots holy shit
2018-04-06 18:10
#128
 | 
World Nydhogg 
won every pistol and lost every next antieco rounds fucking Noobsters trash
2018-04-06 18:10
3rd pistol they win only to lose force straight after
2018-04-06 18:12
oofsters
2018-04-06 18:12
2 guys with 0 Kills after 5 rounds Fragsters is Just 1-2 Tiers lower
2018-04-06 18:13
16-5 i said like 30 mins ago
2018-04-06 18:14
ezzz hellraisers 2v5 xDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-04-06 18:22
#138
 | 
Lithuania ElValen 
vs eco :D
2018-04-06 18:24
and it matters why ?
2018-04-06 18:33
#137
s1mple | 
Uzbekistan xeztoR 
2x5 without any damage...
2018-04-06 18:23
10:16
2018-04-06 18:30
#140
 | 
CIS crazex 
woxic isnt missing
2018-04-06 18:32
#141
 | 
Philippines Borjcxz 
Botfox
2018-04-06 18:32
#144
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
again rip vs force???
2018-04-06 18:34
#145
 | 
CIS crazex 
fox bot
2018-04-06 18:34
lol 47$ pistols rounds won xDDDD time to go 4/4 antiforcebuys lost
2018-04-06 18:35
#147
 | 
World Nydhogg 
if Botsters will lose to forcebuy again... :(
2018-04-06 18:35
#148
 | 
Russia ez4u 
So fucking close
2018-04-06 18:37
#149
 | 
World Nydhogg 
They've done it! Omedetou Noobsters you survived CZ buy
2018-04-06 18:38
really? XD
2018-04-06 18:39
#152
 | 
Russia ez4u 
Sure?
2018-04-06 18:39
#153
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Kazakhstan texolli 
nope, they lost next one
2018-04-06 18:39
XDDDDDDDDDD
2018-04-06 18:39
#154
 | 
World Nydhogg 
fuuuuuuuck
2018-04-06 18:39
FeelsFragstersMan
2018-04-06 18:41
yikes this team are pure garbage
2018-04-06 18:40
#157
YEBAH | 
Russia dan2620 
LMAO
2018-04-06 18:40
#158
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Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
omg
2018-04-06 18:40
ahahahahahahahah
2018-04-06 18:40
so ez 250 eur :D XD XD XD
2018-04-06 18:41
Round over - Winner: CT (8-10) - Enemy eliminated ISSAA killed stavn with cz75a (headshot) ISSAA killed refrezh with cz75a (headshot) ANGE1 killed torben with cz75a (headshot) bondik killed dragonfly with cz75a dragonfly killed woxic with mac10 woxic killed Bubski with cz75a refrezh killed DeadFox with ak47 Round started This team is legitly retarded
2018-04-06 18:41
high quality cs
2018-04-06 18:42
This garbage team can never win an anti eco plz disband
2018-04-06 18:43
Fragsters nervous it seems lul
2018-04-06 18:43
Deadfox 5/16 lul
2018-04-06 18:45
#167
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Switzerland Alpollo 
Casters think Fragsters have a chance hahahah. If you have any eyes you see that HR doesnt give a fuck. DeadFox bhoping into toilets with AWP.
2018-04-06 18:46
that's a legitimate strategy though.
2018-04-06 18:47
Handii <3
2018-04-06 18:49
good shit
2018-04-06 18:50
#172
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Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
fake comeback
2018-04-06 18:51
If they would kick deadfox it would actually be a top 5 team
2018-04-06 18:51
shitfox probably kicked soon. imagine a good player instead of him
2018-04-06 18:52
#175
Snax | 
India editz10 
LOL THIS HR
2018-04-06 18:52
#176
Snax | 
India editz10 
hr why not kick thsi botfox pig face noob
2018-04-06 18:53
#177
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Russia ez4u 
Stavn and fly are brothers?
2018-04-06 18:55
#178
 | 
Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
again rip vs pistols?
2018-04-06 18:55
Yeah i like bets masters <3 :D
2018-04-06 18:57
#179
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Belgium nano01 
no way
2018-04-06 18:56
when u dont know how to properly play csgo and loose 6 times long range battles ak vs cz spray in 2 maps. these guys are cheaters im sure - fragsters
2018-04-06 18:56
#182
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World Nydhogg 
fucking cancer team holy shit
2018-04-06 18:56
+4.5 ezpz
2018-04-06 18:56
tourben nice spray vs bondiks cz LMAO
2018-04-06 18:57
XD these danish guys are cheaters
2018-04-06 18:59
If bot torben gets the kill vs cz = it's 14-14 but this guy loses long rage fight while having ak-47 with 100 hp
2018-04-06 19:01
i know. that's why i say they r cheaters. cant be this terrible on lan vs hr... i mean if u play vs top 1,2 tier team okay.. but hr is tier 3
2018-04-06 19:01
#188
Snax | 
India editz10 
This deadfox free kill
2018-04-06 18:58
noobonliners ez :D
2018-04-06 18:59
Fragsters won 4 pistols = still lost 0-2 with losing every single anti-eco
2018-04-06 19:00
#194
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Philippines Borjcxz 
Obiously throw! Hahaha 2 force buy. And the 5v5 round. Hahahaha! WellPlay HR
2018-04-06 19:01
#196
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World Nydhogg 
Fragsters won 4 pistols and lose every antieco. I'm baffled how stupid this team is
2018-04-06 19:02
HOW MUCH? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2018-04-06 19:04
#197
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Czech Republic MatthEWw_w 
again 2-0 WOW
2018-04-06 19:04
Oh back at LAN, not so easy for Fragsters then :(
2018-04-06 19:14
9-23 cmon deadfoxy
2018-04-06 20:10
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