12:00
3rd of July 2019
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 3 (LAN) * Group B lower bracket round 1
1. Vitality removed Train
2. ENCE removed Vertigo
3. Vitality picked Overpass
4. ENCE picked Nuke
5. Vitality removed Mirage
6. ENCE removed Dust2
7. Inferno was left over
Overpass
9:16 (6:9; 3:7)STATS
Nuke
16:12 (7:8; 9:4)STATS
Inferno
9:16 (4:11; 5:5)STATS
Rewatch
United KingdomESL TV (Opening Segment)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Pre-Match Analysis)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 1 - Overpass)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Intermission Analysis)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 2 - Nuke)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Intermission Analysis)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 3 - Inferno)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Post-Match Analysis)Vod
Highlights
sergej cripples the offense with a 3k (Overpass)
Aleksib 3k on the retake (Overpass)
apEX takes down three to open up the site (Overpass)
ZywOo opens up the site with a quad kill (Overpass)
RPK quad kill hold (Inferno)
NBK snipes down three on the retake (Inferno)
sergej taps down four in the second pistol round (Inferno)
apEX denies the retake with a 3k (Inferno)
xseveN triple kill hold to keep Ence alive (Inferno)
Match stats
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Finland
Jere 'sergej' Salo
sergej
62-54 +8 87.6 73.1% 1.24
Finland
Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
xseveN
50-55 -5 69.0 74.4% 1.00
Finland
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksib
49-53 -4 76.0 73.1% 0.99
Finland
Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Aerial
41-50 -9 61.8 67.9% 0.93
Finland
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
allu
45-52 -7 61.1 69.2% 0.90
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
France
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
ZywOo
66-41 +25 87.8 75.6% 1.36
France
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
NBK-
55-49 +6 72.6 70.5% 1.14
France
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
RpK
54-49 +5 63.4 67.9% 0.96
United Kingdom
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
ALEX
43-54 -11 71.1 65.4% 0.91
France
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
apEX
45-56 -11 73.8 66.7% 0.90
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Finland
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksib
21-17 +4 87.8 76.0% 1.17
Finland
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
allu
15-18 -3 68.7 72.0% 0.94
Finland
Jere 'sergej' Salo
sergej
16-20 -4 72.8 72.0% 0.90
Finland
Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Aerial
6-15 -9 37.2 56.0% 0.66
Finland
Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
xseveN
10-19 -9 57.3 64.0% 0.61
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
France
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
ZywOo
26-12 +14 105.2 84.0% 1.72
France
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
NBK-
17-14 +3 71.0 76.0% 1.26
France
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
RpK
17-13 +4 70.6 76.0% 1.11
France
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
apEX
16-13 +3 71.9 80.0% 1.10
United Kingdom
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
ALEX
13-17 -4 58.3 60.0% 0.87
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Finland
Jere 'sergej' Salo
sergej
28-14 +14 105.6 85.7% 1.67
Finland
Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
xseveN
24-18 +6 81.5 89.3% 1.39
Finland
Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Aerial
21-16 +5 81.3 75.0% 1.26
Finland
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
allu
19-15 +4 63.9 78.6% 1.12
Finland
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksib
14-17 -3 68.0 75.0% 0.93
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
France
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
ZywOo
22-18 +4 83.4 67.9% 1.14
France
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
NBK-
19-20 -1 74.5 60.7% 1.03
France
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
RpK
18-20 -2 54.4 67.9% 0.84
United Kingdom
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
ALEX
9-22 -13 64.3 50.0% 0.54
France
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
apEX
11-26 -15 50.3 42.9% 0.49
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Finland
Jere 'sergej' Salo
sergej
18-20 -2 82.3 60.0% 1.11
Finland
Sami 'xseveN' Laasanen
xseveN
16-18 -2 66.8 68.0% 0.96
Finland
Aleksi 'Aleksib' Virolainen
Aleksib
14-19 -5 73.0 68.0% 0.89
Finland
Jani 'Aerial' Jussila
Aerial
14-19 -5 64.5 72.0% 0.86
Finland
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
allu
11-19 -8 50.3 56.0% 0.63
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United Kingdom
Alex 'ALEX' McMeekin
ALEX
21-15 +6 91.6 88.0% 1.39
France
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
apEX
18-17 +1 101.9 80.0% 1.28
France
Mathieu 'ZywOo' Herbaut
ZywOo
18-11 +7 75.3 76.0% 1.25
France
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
NBK-
19-15 +4 72.0 76.0% 1.18
France
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
RpK
19-16 +3 66.3 60.0% 0.95
Player of the matchwon with 77.0% of the votes
Past matches
Head to head
3
Wins
2
Overtimes
7
Wins
BIG TOP 1!
2019-06-26 17:16
EZ 4 ENCE Vitality Top 3 OMEGALUL RPK IN 2019 OMEGALUL NO AUG = NO VITALITY
2019-07-02 17:15
#51
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North America daesoulae 
everyone used the aug stupid
2019-07-02 17:19
#266
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Denmark EyesWallow 
some rely on it more than others
2019-07-03 11:02
Including astralis
2019-07-03 11:58
#300
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Denmark EyesWallow 
well astralis was good before the AUG was in use and got bad after so not as much astralis i would say
2019-07-03 11:59
True that, smart Danish guy :)
2019-07-03 14:23
SG and Aug are op weapons. They are part of the game , whats the problem? Budget awp , ez. Huge mistake that no one ever considered (except elige and magisk , they used the sg here and there) to use it before the price reduce last year.
2019-07-03 12:52
#376
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Denmark EyesWallow 
i never said it was a problem
2019-07-03 12:57
#465
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Russia tabbypelican 
because elige top 1 player liquid top 1 team EZ GRAND SLAM LETS GO LIQUID
2019-07-03 14:12
Calm down. And yeah , Elige is super humble/nice tbh. I've played with him 2 days ago (met him in MM game) , he's quiet and really nice person.
2019-07-04 00:06
#676
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Russia tabbypelican 
you say ME. to CALM DOWN????????????? man. LIQUID TOP 1 TEAM IN THE WORLD. so SHUT UP
2019-07-04 10:17
#696
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Germany Wagonf 
+1
2019-07-04 16:42
Dream about it. Go drink some vodka to release the tension , peanut brain.
2019-07-05 16:05
#721
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Russia tabbypelican 
ez baited on flag 12 yo astralis fan
2019-07-05 16:30
I can easily be your step dad , son.
2019-07-06 21:35
#738
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Russia tabbypelican 
say it to your astralis boys easily beaten by vitality, son :) ez grand slam, good night :)
2019-07-06 22:37
#52
apEX | 
Europe bruuuuuh 
nt no scene
2019-07-02 17:21
hey he has marke, whos on like a tier 40 team, dont be so rude )))
2019-07-03 02:43
#131
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Finland dittmarmor 
Lmao legit every team used the aug because it was amazing
2019-07-02 21:27
It's still a great weapon imho. Both aug and sg. Both cost a bit more but u have zoom.
2019-07-03 12:53
#150
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Poland Repo_is_fit 
Both teams overrated
2019-07-02 23:16
+1
2019-07-03 03:11
-1
2019-07-03 09:45
+1
2019-07-03 10:19
Problem is that any team which would be #2 and #3 would be overrated right now There's no obvious top 5 :<
2019-07-03 12:02
#221
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Ukraine EmErAJID 
No aug = no CS POG
2019-07-03 08:31
OmegaLUL
2019-07-03 14:22
so ez for zywoo nt try ence
2019-07-03 14:53
#627
flusha | 
Belgium LaaB09 
I've got some bad news for you
2019-07-03 15:15
#2
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Israel FRIsaac 
kk
2019-06-26 17:16
#3
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Finland MeeTaZ 
Ence played badly... if they drop out from this tournament now, imma be vitality fan... zywoo top1
2019-07-02 16:27
The showing of ENCE was so bad that I am afraid this will be the inevitable drop to the ground. Hopefully they will do better in future tournaments.
2019-07-02 16:32
Isn't it already pretty standard start for ENCE to lose the first match of the tournament. I still feeling pretty comfortable that they will bounce back!
2019-07-02 16:37
Yes. But compare that they could have won Heroic and Vitality and get top6 spot with that. Now they need to (likely) win NiP, Fnatic, and MIBR to get top6.
2019-07-02 16:41
ez
2019-07-02 17:00
#68
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France FlamingFrost 
Vitalichoke* not Nip :'(
2019-07-02 17:35
Unfortunately.
2019-07-02 18:16
I think the same
2019-07-03 11:33
+1
2019-07-03 01:32
#188
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Finland Smoonah 
they have always sucked on mirage
2019-07-03 03:04
It's bo1 bro, doesn't mean a lot
2019-07-03 10:33
Plastic kiddo
2019-07-02 16:39
Vitality played bad too I have no idea what wiII happen tomorrow, I guess it's 50 / 50
2019-07-02 20:36
#132
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Finland Slavikka 
plastic fan
2019-07-02 21:27
#650
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Finland MeeTaZ 
njet tavarish slavikka
2019-07-03 17:21
ez nip
2019-07-02 16:28
#269
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Portugal Wordspotters 
+1
2019-07-03 11:05
#5
Italy rad0r 
ez for nip LUL
2019-07-02 16:31
#249
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Canada Shumbingdrag 
lul
2019-07-03 10:42
#7
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Romania cyber8 
ENCE 2 0 NIP 16 6 and 16 9
2019-07-02 16:34
If its NiP, ENCE are the favourites and SHOULD win if they play properly this time. If It's Vitality, not too confident about ENCE winning.
2019-07-02 16:52
#12
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
vitality vs ence yikes
2019-07-02 16:53
#13
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Spain akproxx 
sad vitality vs ence
2019-07-02 16:57
May the best team win tomorrow man! And may it be a great match to watch for both sides! :) have fun my brother
2019-07-02 23:27
+1 real fan
2019-07-03 10:50
-1 I'm a fan of CSGO, i only wish to see the best games and have the most fun. and me liking vitality in that is just an extra.
2019-07-03 14:01
+1 real fan, not a plastic shit
2019-07-03 14:04
I really hate those people man, that will switch for any team or are not realistic. if vitality play like shit i know they play like shit and i wont tell excuses or stuff. if we're trash than we are trash. but I just hope to see a good match. and Nuke looks like a good match. now the third map man! may it be a good one.
2019-07-03 14:05
GG. Was a great match. im happy that vitality win, hope you're not too mad my friend. hopefully it'll be a great match next time as well.
2019-07-03 15:37
i am not mad ence lost this for themselves because they had 3week holiday before this
2019-07-03 15:54
lets hope they come back stronger for an even better show! :)
2019-07-03 16:15
#16
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Finland Faust_fSt 
HLTV ranking #2 vs #3 LB elimination btw
2019-07-02 16:59
#57
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Finland JHdash77 
+1 LUL
2019-07-02 17:26
#64
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Europe andyy_ 
#2 will drop down pretty soon :)
2019-07-02 17:30
#71
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Finland Faust_fSt 
Possibly, you think that triggers me?
2019-07-02 17:39
#72
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Europe andyy_ 
yes it clearly does
2019-07-02 17:40
#75
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Finland Faust_fSt 
Clearly :D
2019-07-02 17:41
#82
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Finland (RANE) 
u r funny men
2019-07-02 17:48
#98
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Europe andyy_ 
who the fuck are you?
2019-07-02 18:20
question is who’s dis smalldickandy
2019-07-02 21:16
#127
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Europe andyy_ 
and who are you? fucking shitty white flaggers defending each other
2019-07-02 21:17
Imagine having EU flag
2019-07-02 23:57
#163
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Europe andyy_ 
imagine being a fan of ence
2019-07-02 23:59
#243
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Finland (RANE) 
why so salty
2019-07-03 10:33
imagine being a fan of a team that change roaster every 2 weeks
2019-07-03 10:35
#256
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Europe andyy_ 
Imagine not being able to write the word "roster" properly
2019-07-03 10:51
#307
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United States the_dukes 
cloud9 can't even win fpl with their roster lol lol
2019-07-03 12:07
#349
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Europe andyy_ 
their roster is literally 1 day old. What do you expect?
2019-07-03 12:45
#384
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United States the_dukes 
come on dickhead Andy choke9 old roster was beaten by some random global elite in fpl go and check out you retard choke9 fan
2019-07-03 12:59
#386
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Europe andyy_ 
haha, so mad out of nowhere lmao
2019-07-03 13:00
He is from lithuania so it is obvious he is ashamed of showing his flag herr
2019-07-03 10:51
henlo lithuanian do you have potato?
2019-07-03 11:22
ur profiles latest visitors are all finns
2019-07-02 23:59
#165
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Europe andyy_ 
ik, they love me XD
2019-07-03 00:00
gay
2019-07-03 10:25
#18
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Finland Emvi 
bo1 starters btw. ence or vitality going home last place gg
2019-07-02 17:03
Don't cry. It's their fault that they lost against teams like Heroic and NIP
2019-07-02 17:05
+1 its isnt bo1 random if you cant win from 9-3 on dust2 T side, its your fault
2019-07-02 17:07
#34
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Finland Emvi 
im not crying yet. if ence lose i might cry a little though. I don't think they would've lost in a bo3 from what we've seen in the last months, but whatever
2019-07-02 17:09
#65
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Europe andyy_ 
+1
2019-07-02 17:32
then why did both of them play like shit then LOL
2019-07-02 17:07
#19
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United Kingdom HG_J0X3 
Will be a fun match to watch
2019-07-02 17:04
#262
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Russia readyturner 
sure xd
2019-07-03 10:56
#22
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Poland Stazk1el 
hahaha
2019-07-02 17:05
nice bo1 format
2019-07-02 17:06
Yup and seeding XD
2019-07-02 17:09
LETS GO ENCE! ELIMINATE THIS TRASH
2019-07-02 17:06
#27
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Finland Autisthicc 
vitality has better players?
2019-07-02 17:07
Better player*
2019-07-03 01:03
xdd nt
2019-07-03 10:44
#26
Nigeria c0rv 
5 star match ... while navi mouz was 2
2019-07-02 17:07
#53
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Lithuania chingo 
#2 vs #3
2019-07-02 17:22
#69
 | 
Europe andyy_ 
flukence are way too high in the rankings. If it was Vitality vs Navi, it would be a pretty solid match. Right now it's a quick 2-0 for Vitality.
2019-07-02 17:35
oh look at andy cloud9 flair has changer to plastic #1 team fan, what a surprise :D edit: how is life in lithuenia btw
2019-07-02 17:41
#99
 | 
Europe andyy_ 
csgo-stats.com/player/76561198398987919 0.66 KD IN MATCHMAKING WITH 1.7k HOURS HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
2019-07-02 18:23
#115
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
15 year old spotted.
2019-07-02 20:34
#117
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Europe andyy_ 
talking like #74 isn't 12 yo's message :) every finn in hltv is whether autistic or 12 yo though
2019-07-02 20:41
#118
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
Keep the insults coming young man, gotta vent it out somewhere. :) Judging by the amount of posts and hatred in your messages, you still have a lot to pour out.
2019-07-02 20:43
#119
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Europe andyy_ 
if you weren't finnish you wouldn't care at all. Nationalist defending his countrymen no matter what spotted
2019-07-02 20:44
#133
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Finland Slavikka 
Yeah, at least we want to represent our country and support our people. What shit hole are you from, since you don't want to show it?
2019-07-02 21:32
#136
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Europe andyy_ 
no, you're fucking chauvinists who disrespect other countries or teams besides ence. Cocky cancers of HLTV, hopefully ence dies soon, so will you
2019-07-02 21:45
cl(ul)oud9 FREE AUTIMATIC
2019-07-03 02:46
#190
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Austria ArmendZTC 
How is Lithuania?
2019-07-03 03:24
#258
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Europe andyy_ 
How are your doing on your favourite place, reddit? - reddit.com/user/ArmendZTC/posts -3 karma, uh ://
2019-07-03 10:52
#297
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Austria ArmendZTC 
Page not found Lithuania
2019-07-03 11:57
#350
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Europe andyy_ 
go back to reddit, wheelchair :)
2019-07-03 12:45
He is lithuanian fag
2019-07-03 10:53
So ENCE or Vitality has to go out because they lost a Bo1, trash format
2019-07-02 17:08
#38
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United Kingdom HG_J0X3 
Ikr, esl formats are trash
2019-07-02 17:11
#39
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France J0riS 
It's so fucking annoying
2019-07-02 17:11
#70
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Europe andyy_ 
ence will go home, chill dude, god zywoo will deliver
2019-07-02 17:38
#83
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France LanaRhoades 
maybe but one of the top 3 teams will go out bc of bo1
2019-07-02 17:51
yes but they showed that they are not good enough. Top 3 team against top 14....do you think that the difference is so huge?
2019-07-02 18:25
Its a BO1 + vitality played Dust 2 which is almost a coin Flip on its own.... everything could happen in a BO1 and NiP is like a perfect upset BO1 team
2019-07-02 23:30
excuses excuses.....
2019-07-02 23:31
Reasons reasons*
2019-07-03 09:46
Yes, one of them has to go out because they weren't good enough to be Heroic or NiP.
2019-07-02 18:05
They would have, if it was bo3s, that's the point
2019-07-02 18:06
If they can't even beat those two in a BO1 then they don't deserve more chances. Can't handle the pressure of a BO1.
2019-07-02 18:07
#105
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
real cs expert right here. b01s are random af and should completely disappear from tier 1 tournaments
2019-07-02 19:06
#654
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France Poloqua 
+1
2019-07-03 18:23
that, you dont know for sure. Everyone was sure they will beat those teams easily.....hahaha 10-16 both games. Top 2 and 3 my ass
2019-07-02 18:27
Always overeacting, losing a bo1 doesn't mean they didn't earn their rank
2019-07-02 18:54
#111
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
Astralis in peak form wasnt able to win every blast pro because of the bo1 format that should tell you something
2019-07-02 20:13
#193
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Deserved. It's because ence can't beat fucking heroic And vitality can't win a single T round on dust2 Not because of format both teams just sucked
2019-07-03 04:17
Everyone expect this match in the Semis, but something went wrong LULW
2019-07-02 17:09
Trash format ESL strikes again
2019-07-02 17:09
#37
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France J0riS 
+1
2019-07-02 17:11
#41
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
not esl fault favourites can't win their matches
2019-07-02 17:13
Yea in a bo1, also why are they seeded in the same side,
2019-07-02 17:18
#50
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France FrighTyyy 
+1 There are many good teams at this tournament. It was obvious that some of them are going to meet each other in lower bracket. It's not because of the format that top2 and top3 cannot win against top14 and top16.
2019-07-02 17:19
Still why seed #2 and #3 team same side. Imo it doesnt make sense, also its bo1 starter.
2019-07-02 17:24
#58
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France FrighTyyy 
Because they were not #2 and #3 while they were being seeded. Back then were 4 favourites in this group: Astralis #2, ence #3, vitality #4 and mibr #9. So the best is with the worst and those in the mid teams against each other. And tbh ESL ranking is much more reliable IMO. And then it makes even more sense.
2019-07-02 17:27
#61
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Finland JHdash77 
+1 so many idiots here not understanding this
2019-07-02 17:29
True, i seriously didnt think. Still the first bo1 has too much influence
2019-07-02 17:32
#85
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France FrighTyyy 
Indeed. That's why they had to play with theoritically 2 out of 3 worst teams in group B. I know it may be random sometimes, but in my opinion it should be no excuse for teams of this caliber. Especially for Vitality since they played D2 - one of the best maps for french teams including them, and not so good map for NIP. Idk about ENCE, but I thought that Mirage and Train were their best maps
2019-07-02 17:55
Ye mirage train and nuke. Yea im salty too so biased, but never liked this format with bo1s
2019-07-02 17:58
I disagree, NiP is a good upset BO1 Team and Dust 2 is almost a coin Flip on its own. NiP has decent stats on their own and Dust is the kind of map a stand in / new Player with good aim can play just because its so simple and barely has a lot of strategy in it compared to other maps. But yeah vita were supposed to win
2019-07-02 23:33
#63
 | 
Europe andyy_ 
> favourites > ence
2019-07-02 17:29
>european >andy
2019-07-03 10:55
#272
 | 
Europe andyy_ 
> sandetek > a normal person
2019-07-03 11:08
Yeah im young athlete and i am high school student, i know this isnt a normal person in 3rd world countries like lithuania but here in 1st world countries it is quite normal.
2019-07-03 11:54
#351
 | 
Europe andyy_ 
young athlete? Tell me more about this
2019-07-03 12:46
i play floorball and football in real teams
2019-07-03 12:47
#355
 | 
Europe andyy_ 
ok, you may be a moron online but i gotta respect you for this
2019-07-03 12:49
no, this is a good format, i dont want to have a shitton of bo1 matches that dont even matter
2019-07-02 17:17
Should just start with bo3 in this format
2019-07-02 17:24
yea, that would be an improvement
2019-07-02 18:02
#206
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
That's a 14 hour day of counterstrike. You need to understand how tiring that is on the organizers and talent.
2019-07-03 06:47
one extra day would be needed, so it wouldnt be that much worse (+sponsors get more adtime and esl gets more watchtime on twitch too)
2019-07-03 14:18
#475
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Yeah and it costs another whole day to run the tournament and they lose money. Trust me they've thought it through, everyone prefers bo3 it's just not always possible
2019-07-03 14:20
Agree man , that's sucks that #2 or #3 wiII be aIready out :x
2019-07-02 20:49
Well its old ranking seeding so it makes sense in that way, I only realised later. But bo1s sucks in this format
2019-07-02 20:53
Yeah I dont like this format as weII, I prefer swiss round with bo3 like at the major. I didn't watch ence today, did they play bad ? Vitality T side was awfuII tho :/
2019-07-02 20:56
EnCE T side same, won pistol and 3-0, finish half with 5 rounds..
2019-07-02 20:57
10-5 half for vitality and they didnt Get a single T side round after that....
2019-07-02 23:34
This was supposed to be the final mens :(((((
2019-07-02 17:10
#36
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
almost lol
2019-07-02 17:11
#40
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Sweden flippig 
vitality hype gone after this game
2019-07-02 17:12
#84
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Finland (RANE) 
ence played really badly, but nip is on fire. ps ex-favorite team.
2019-07-02 17:55
#89
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Sweden flippig 
i didnt see it i was watching fnatic and nip but im counting on ence tomorrow, sick of the vitality hype
2019-07-02 17:58
#167
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Hungary colbyyy 
+1
2019-07-03 00:02
#42
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United States fernando_123 
EZ4ENCE
2019-07-02 17:14
ez4tank
2019-07-02 17:17
nice two of the teams that are “better than Liquid”
2019-07-02 17:17
NA CS LUL
2019-07-02 19:21
#48
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China FFLin 
Double elimination format with bo1 first round is horrible for this tire of tournament. It's good for tournaments with such trash teams. But not for Cologne. Swiss round format will be way much better.
2019-07-02 17:18
#76
fluke | 
France Urzqor 
+1
2019-07-02 17:44
someone said cologne will show who is the top1 team. LOL. with this format it could be anyone
2019-07-02 17:45
#195
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Top 1 team wouldn't lose to heroic or go 0-11 on T side dust after a 10-5 half Both these teams sucked and deserve to be where they are right now
2019-07-03 04:22
#205
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
+1 They didnt show elite form at all in those openers
2019-07-03 06:45
#49
 | 
CIS followDeiMoZ 
#2 vs #3 btw
2019-07-02 17:18
Clash of trashes
2019-07-02 17:24
#2 and #3, what
2019-07-02 17:46
Fluke, after this tournament back to tier2
2019-07-03 09:52
nah, not to tier2, both are well top10 teams
2019-07-03 14:19
Mousesports is trash
2019-07-02 19:20
dumb :D
2019-07-03 02:55
Imagine a 5 star match for the first elimination game
2019-07-02 17:28
#92
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France FrighTyyy 
I don't think that we have ever had something like this before.
2019-07-02 18:02
#110
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Lithuania verslininkas 
not first elimination game here, mvp gone already
2019-07-02 19:39
Still last place though.
2019-07-03 05:39
i meant first stage of elims
2019-07-03 16:20
#62
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Europe andyy_ 
Ayyy, EASY FOR VITALITY AND GOD ZYWOOOOOO
2019-07-02 17:29
ez4ence btw baguettes disband plz
2019-07-02 17:34
shitality vs memce
2019-07-02 17:47
#80
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Finland wrathh 
flukence max 3 rounds across 2 maps
2019-07-02 17:47
#81
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Turkey Thunderball 
by by trashlity
2019-07-02 17:48
#86
 | 
Finland 7ones 
The verkkars need to get straightened asap. This is not looking good.
2019-07-02 17:56
yea wtf they havent released a song in so long dude
2019-07-02 18:00
#87
 | 
Sweden fxzo 
one of top 3 teams out on 2nd day omegalul
2019-07-02 17:57
#93
 | 
Germany ToiletShitter 
Bye bye vitality
2019-07-02 18:03
Bye Trashtality
2019-07-02 18:48
#103
 | 
Canada herocoolzzz 
flukence vs fluketality goodbye either one of them so ez for liquid to claim the trophy
2019-07-02 18:49
Liquid almost losing to mvp so i wouldn't say that its ez
2019-07-02 19:19
#106
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World breezy0 
Aleksib is tactical genius. He is most know of his signature tactic "going B, but then going A". He also has second little known tactic of " going A, but going A. What a absolute legend. Top 5 IGL
2019-07-02 19:16
#112
 | 
World ascet 
#2 vs #3 in lower bracket is omegalyl
2019-07-02 20:20
#113
 | 
Denmark Ritsuryo 
ez vit
2019-07-02 20:21
ENCE ban Vertigo Vitality ban Train ENCE pick Mirage Vitality pick Inferno ENCE ban Dust2 Vitality ban Nuke Overpass was left over Vitality 2-1
2019-07-02 20:26
#173
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Europe Cirro 
if u think Vitality will not pick ovp u have brain dmged
2019-07-03 00:41
#124
 | 
Portugal KSCERATOGOD 
Damn one of these already going out.
2019-07-02 20:57
#125
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
5 star match with 2 trash teams in loser bracket LUL
2019-07-02 21:12
#128
 | 
France FanchD 
ENCE removed Vertigo Vitality removed Train ENCE picked Mirage Vitality picked Overpass ENCE removed Dust 2 Vitality removed Nuke Inferno was left over
2019-07-02 21:22
#168
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
Why vitality removed nuke ?
2019-07-03 00:03
#176
 | 
France FanchD 
Cuz ENCE is better
2019-07-03 01:00
#129
 | 
France StickyRice 
#VforVictory or #EZ4ENCE ?
2019-07-02 21:22
EZ4ENCE
2019-07-02 21:26
FLUKETALITY VS FLUKENCE #3 VS #2
2019-07-02 21:34
5-star lower bracket elimination match?
2019-07-02 21:42
#137
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South America FAN_OF_M16R 
Shit vs Garbage
2019-07-02 21:47
Vita vs ence 5-star Navi vs Liquid 2-star Nice logic, hltv
2019-07-02 21:54
#144
 | 
France J0riS 
Navi are #13 so that's normal
2019-07-02 22:13
top 2 vs top 3
2019-07-02 21:54
#140
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Hong Kong Brutal_Beat 
ez4ence CS/GO GOME
2019-07-02 21:55
Such funny never thought top 2 and 3 teams will meet at the lower bracket round 1 for elimination whoever wins, the loser absolutely will be out of the top 5 of the world after the tournament ended
2019-07-02 21:55
it is not so sure actually... They have kinda good lead so if it is astralis and liquid in final for instance many others might not be able to catch up xd
2019-07-02 22:09
In a matter of fact, It is a very slim chance to happen that Astrails and TL meeting in the same situation. As a comment stated, although both might are fake top-seeded, both they had the win against to Astrails/Liquid yet. therefore I believe they have a certain competitive at present and they deserve what they have for now.
2019-07-02 22:49
#146
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Colombia AlejoBuh 
fake top 2 and 3
2019-07-02 22:16
#191
 | 
Singapore introspect 
You don't deserve top3 when you only depend on 1 player for your wins ROFL
2019-07-03 03:49
is it a implication of Navi not deserve top 3 team of the world? However they did in the past year
2019-07-03 07:58
thank god one of this overrated trashes got eleminated. Karma will strike on apex byby vitality
2019-07-02 21:57
#145
 | 
France J0riS 
I cheer for vitality but i don't wanna see ence going out either it's so unfair
2019-07-02 22:14
Top 2 or top 3 will be eliminated soon while one of Heroic or NiP will advance to the playoffs due to some silly BO1's EDIT : Also, the loser of FaZe/NRG will play against mouz in the round 2 of the losers' bracket...
2019-07-02 22:39
bad format
2019-07-02 23:30
Format suck no doubt
2019-07-03 00:00
As Cologne is the greatest tournament of the year, ESL should have avoided stupid BO1s. It’s an absurd that either the #2 or the #3 best team in the world will be eliminated after one BO3 played in the second day... The best format is EPICENTER’s, with full BO3 matches. Also, why do ESL insist to have 2 matches on quarter finals? If it was 4 matches (quarter finals), 2 matches (semifinals) and 1 match (finals) everyone would be able to watch 8 great teams playing a BO3 in front of the crowd.
2019-07-03 00:37
swiss system with bo3 is better lmao, atleast in swiss system 0-2 doesn’t mean eliminated, unlike this stupid format
2019-07-03 06:04
#204
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
2019-07-03 06:43
I don’t like Swiss system. But all matches being BO3 as StarLadder tournaments is nice and more fair.
2019-07-03 11:18
#665
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
It's not really "more fair" at all. You can literally come to the tournament, not show up for 2 days, and still make playoffs. Swiss system is a good format but it definitely caters to the players a lot and imo would be worse than ESLs system if they had first round Bo3.
2019-07-03 20:59
#148
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Lithuania aels 
Mirage Inferno Nuke
2019-07-02 22:41
Bye flukence
2019-07-02 23:29
overrated teams
2019-07-02 23:42
#160
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United States dangalange 
EZ for the french super team
2019-07-02 23:49
#161
GuardiaN | 
Poland JKG 
IMO 2-0 for Vitality, They are much better
2019-07-02 23:56
overrated teams but vitality will win 2-1
2019-07-03 00:27
#170
 | 
Brazil lul321 
5 star match lmao
2019-07-03 00:33
#172
 | 
South America FAN_OF_M16R 
Who more overrated?
2019-07-03 00:38
2-1 ence because vitality chokes
2019-07-03 00:46
not ez 4 AUGers
2019-07-03 00:55
#179
autist | 
Germany rayN^ 
you know the csgo scene is dead when this is #2 vs #3
2019-07-03 01:39
#181
 | 
Russia QibyVGZEN 
just hltv rating is shit lol xDDDD real top #2 and #3 - Astralis and Navi-Mouz
2019-07-03 02:29
#192
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
mouz lmfao
2019-07-03 04:17
#202
 | 
Korea ItsMeNow19 
I totally agree with mouz.. The only stable team in top tier.. Beat team ranking lower than them with huga score as always.. Better than overrated quid
2019-07-03 06:37
#203
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Okay fanboy
2019-07-03 06:41
#648
 | 
Korea ItsMeNow19 
Lose vs spirit almost lose vs MVP PK lul
2019-07-03 16:21
#657
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Imagine bringing up results from 7 months ago. How was ECS Finals for mouz btw? Oh wait they lost to Vitality in the qualifiers.
2019-07-03 19:48
#675
 | 
Korea ItsMeNow19 
7 months are u retard? Just 1 motnh ago u dumbs
2019-07-04 09:53
#677
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Nope hltv.org/results?team=7020&team=9565&req.. When you have to start making things up to shit talk a team you know you've lost moron
2019-07-04 13:23
Kinda sad that either the #2 or #3 team is guaranteed last place in this tournament.
2019-07-03 01:46
#194
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France Ocelot31 
yes :/, especially when they are probably the team with the best chance to defeat liquid.
2019-07-03 04:21
#210
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Well they should have no problem with Ence then and can still defeat liquid if they are the better team here
2019-07-03 07:31
ez for GODwoo
2019-07-03 02:40
Both of this "5 minutes shining" teams should go where they belong To tier3 top 20-30 trashteams league
2019-07-03 02:53
Name says it all
2019-07-03 06:59
cry is free FLUKENCE fanboy
2019-07-03 20:50
EZ4ENCE
2019-07-03 02:55
#196
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
it gonna be a tough match for both
2019-07-03 05:18
#199
 | 
Nepal ramann 
Byr bYe Team ranking 2 vs 3 hahahahaha
2019-07-03 06:07
#200
 | 
Russia TarNP 
2:0 zywoality
2019-07-03 06:13
aleksib so hot <3
2019-07-03 06:47
Goodbye ENCE. Their map pool is countered by that of vit 2-1 vit
2019-07-03 07:15
#212
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
Hmm you might be the first person to try to analyze this match instead of just picking your favorite team
2019-07-03 07:40
xctly, but I'd say 2:0
2019-07-03 09:05
#211
ZywOo | 
Latvia `DinGo 
2-1 Vitality
2019-07-03 07:40
i want to commit sewer side 2-0 ENCE
2019-07-03 07:44
#214
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Canada C4K3 
LUL xD Straight up two of the newest hot shot teams in 2019 are going head to head in the Lower bracket to find out who goes home first. Cologne is always notorious for dropping top teams early. Amazing.
2019-07-03 07:58
#216
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Czech Republic KLothbrok 
eeeeeeze for ence
2019-07-03 08:02
Elimination match
2019-07-03 08:20
bye bye ence aug wont save you anymore you will become a meme again
2019-07-03 08:20
#229
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Finland Goofyraider 
you = cunt
2019-07-03 09:47
#220
 | 
Finland Miiksii 
I have a bad feeling about this game (im ence Fan)
2019-07-03 08:27
#225
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Finland FinYuna 
You are not only one...
2019-07-03 09:10
#222
xccurate | 
Indonesia k1yo 
5 star elimination match?
2019-07-03 08:49
#223
 | 
Poland mamba99999 
Great format. After i fluke BO1 we have 2 out of 5 best teams fighting for life, where one goes home.
2019-07-03 08:50
#227
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Finland Goofyraider 
This tournament format is amazingly bad. Why first round is BO1? Now Ence or Vitality will drop out from tournament.. The two best teams play now in jumbo-final..
2019-07-03 09:47
#230
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
if they were the best teams they would have beat nip and heroic
2019-07-03 09:48
#231
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Finland Goofyraider 
one BO1 match doesnt tell so much, Nip and Heroic are good teams but I think Vitality and Ence are better..
2019-07-03 09:49
But they didn't prove that, which is their fault and why they are here.
2019-07-03 10:20
#233
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Australia Samrith 
Ence is the great team on Tside, counter attack at finest, but the game against Heroic made me feel that they have only 20% to win against the French. GL tho
2019-07-03 09:54
#241
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Finland JHdash77 
Like every tournament ever starts with bo1
2019-07-03 10:26
#252
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Russia anleet 
best teams xaxaaxaxaxaxaxa tier 3 trash
2019-07-03 10:44
So many butthurt fans HAHAHAHAHA. Neither of these teams deserve #2 or #3 to begin with. Let the worst team fluke.
2019-07-03 09:59
#242
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Tell me then who deserves #2 and #3?
2019-07-03 10:32
#274
 | 
China NoAWPNoBrain 
Astralis and Mouz
2019-07-03 11:10
#275
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
XDDDSDSSSSDD 0/8
2019-07-03 11:11
#405
 | 
China Gnikiv 
what have mouz achieved. SB?
2019-07-03 13:16
Nice match to watch, I expect Vitality wins because of current form. 2-1 Vitality
2019-07-03 10:07
#236
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Germany Nightblader 
I Hope ence do this, of they don‘t they are outside ok?
2019-07-03 10:14
Ence all my money
2019-07-03 10:33
tier3 5 star match xD
2019-07-03 10:38
how is this a 5 star match? 3 star at best
2019-07-03 10:41
Rip ence
2019-07-03 10:43
#255
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Mongolia DestructorBB 
ez4ence
2019-07-03 10:50
#263
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Finland Sp0rk1859 
The first round bo1s are a thank you to all the betting sites, because they're just so random
2019-07-03 10:57
#264
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Czech Republic JasonBorn 
take my euros ENCE
2019-07-03 10:59
aug nerf 1 flukence 0
2019-07-03 11:04
#270
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China NoAWPNoBrain 
Battle of the overates
2019-07-03 11:06
why so ez bagets
2019-07-03 11:08
#273
 | 
France Uexo 
Please Vitality 🙏 ! #VforVictory
2019-07-03 11:09
a painful game ...
2019-07-03 11:13
#278
gla1ve | 
Lithuania erkx 
#2 eliminated in the last place OMEGALUL nice hltv rankings kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-07-03 11:15
you can thank BO1 here, worst format ever
2019-07-03 11:39
#279
ZywOo | 
Sweden Redennn 
The 2nd et 3rd team in a match in order to know which team is the last...
2019-07-03 11:17
ENCE ban vertigo Vitality ban train ENCE pick mirage Vitality pick overpass ENCE ban dust 2 Vitality ban inferno nuke was left over 2-1 for ??? ._.
2019-07-03 11:24
#283
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France reakq  
I will obviously run for Vitality. But if ENCE win this one, I will support them until the end of the event.
2019-07-03 11:26
#284
 | 
Finland TimCarry 
The most entertaining match in this tournament. How ever ez 2-0 for enze.
2019-07-03 11:27
0/8
2019-07-03 11:33
#288
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Russia evg1804 
Idk, two equal team are there, I think 3 maps will be played
2019-07-03 11:35
why FaZe took Neo, when they have free Pimp? :O
2019-07-03 11:43
#314
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Estonia autistik 
Who is pimp ?
2019-07-03 12:18
ez for british
2019-07-03 11:45
#292
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
top2 vs top3 lmao
2019-07-03 11:45
#311
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Estonia autistik 
+1 shit teams
2019-07-03 12:18
5 star :xD
2019-07-03 11:46
#294
 | 
Lithuania verslininkas 
worst 5 star game ever in history?
2019-07-03 11:48
#305
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World breezy0 
not sure if stupid or just bait
2019-07-03 12:03
Overpass Nuke Inferno thanks me later
2019-07-03 11:58
thanks
2019-07-03 12:02
Np bratan.
2019-07-03 12:07
rip ence based on map veto
2019-07-03 12:02
#306
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Round over - Winner: T (1 - 0) - Enemy eliminated RpK committed suicide ZywOo committed suicide apEX committed suicide ALEX committed suicide Round started EZ4ENCE
2019-07-03 12:04
#310
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Estonia autistik 
haha
2019-07-03 12:17
Wtf is up with apex mouth?! 🤣
2019-07-03 12:11
he has so twitch i think
2019-07-03 12:21
#312
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
Ez 2-0 for vita, ence doesn't check anything ever
2019-07-03 12:18
zywoo is on fire
2019-07-03 12:18
#315
 | 
Denmark Smackdaddy 
when did Zywoo take over the IGL ??
2019-07-03 12:18
he is not ! just sit in the middle, idk why
2019-07-03 12:21
#317
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United States the_dukes 
Valve should check zywoo I think he is a pro who still use hacks.... he was not this good 6 months ago and now he is doing everything.... he is probably cheating rn.... his mouse and screen needs to be check
2019-07-03 12:21
cheat on lan lul its not like forsaken's tier 10 tournaments
2019-07-03 12:33
#339
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United States the_dukes 
he prefire all the time check his crosshair once you will notice that... check pov of s1mple and zywoo you will find the difference between no 1 player vs no 1 cheater
2019-07-03 12:40
Dude how fucking stupid do you have to be to think a top tier pro is cheating on lan with 100,000 watching? Your brain is wired wrong, you're the stupidest there is, smfh
2019-07-03 12:48
#663
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Actually just making things up on the internet because your life is that sad?
2019-07-03 20:55
#391
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Indonesia tsokai 
Valve should check zywoo I think he is a pro who still use hacks.... he was not this good 6 months ago and now he is doing everything.... he is probably cheating rn.... his mouse and screen needs to be check
2019-07-03 13:04
#637
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France Pattapain 
he had a wh in his glasses
2019-07-03 15:30
"he was not this good 6 months ago" People have been talking about how good ZywOo is for 2 years now and how he is going to be one of the top players in the world some day.
2019-07-03 13:38
vitality already throwing lul byby
2019-07-03 12:22
#320
 | 
CIS Ptic 
byby?
2019-07-03 12:25
yea as i said karma will strike on apex they will be eleminated
2019-07-03 12:25
#396
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
LUL the only karma that happened was s1mple knife and it made them lose the match
2019-07-03 13:06
#322
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
what the fuck are they thinking, peeking into short after it falls, never checking short.. These are gold novas from Finland, just literally look at short ONCE so you get the kill but xseven would rather jump on site without any cover ROFL
2019-07-03 12:28
notez4ence cuz they suck
2019-07-03 12:28
Wtf its not real 1 guy kill 4?
2019-07-03 12:29
#326
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
Imagine being a pro team which cant hold mm pushes lol ENCE just go home
2019-07-03 12:31
#329
 | 
World breezy0 
stop hate pls
2019-07-03 12:32
+1 should practice OP and not always play nuke or train.
2019-07-03 12:33
#357
 | 
Finland SininenMF 
Aleksib: now that we will have a little break we will work on our map pool
2019-07-03 12:50
Yeah, they had 1 month to practice and this is the result.
2019-07-03 13:28
#632
 | 
Finland SininenMF 
Would love to hear which maps they tried to get better. Vertigo still permaban and Mirage just looked worse than before
2019-07-03 15:23
Lulwoo owning ence singlehandedly gg
2019-07-03 12:32
Well, finnish fluke end
2019-07-03 12:33
zywoo is fukin insane
2019-07-03 12:34
finnish cs sucks :)
2019-07-03 12:34
-lithuania
2019-07-03 12:37
sergay XD
2019-07-03 12:43
Ence will win i know
2019-07-03 12:34
#345
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Russia SparQ4k 
ye menss i know too)) they pro comeback from 14-6 overpass t side))
2019-07-03 12:43
Wow ence dogshit
2019-07-03 12:37
#338
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Sweden Akoulad 
Two of the most overrated teams in CSGO history, head to head, writing new history on who's the biggest fraud.
2019-07-03 12:38
#340
 | 
France Dov 
Lol how is vita or ence overrated? They got where they are from litteraly nothing, went through all the qualifiers with all the cheating cunts you encounter in qualifiers
2019-07-03 12:41
#344
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Finland Karppanator 
ence 100% overrated according to the hltv rating right now. Not top 5 for sure at their current form. They peek 1 on 1 on t side and never hold anything on ct side, you can't win off clutches, this is an easy 16-6 and 16-4 for vitality, I hate how simply they don't do the normal things an mm player does to get kills and they think they're doing fine. xseven is being the biggest hindrance in their holds as well.
2019-07-03 12:44
#347
 | 
France Dov 
They reached their peak
2019-07-03 12:45
#348
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
And they're 100% overrated because of it. Don't deny it.
2019-07-03 12:45
#353
 | 
France Dov 
Well let's say it atleast lasted longer than furia's form :D
2019-07-03 12:47
1 map stop bs just one map doesnt mean anything
2019-07-03 12:52
#366
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
Being overly humble isn't exactly being humble.
2019-07-03 12:52
+1
2019-07-03 12:58
#341
 | 
Russia SparQ4k 
hhahahahaha ence from 6-5 to 6-14
2019-07-03 12:42
#343
 | 
Bulgaria MaestroGOD 
The ence fluke is over i guess
2019-07-03 12:43
#346
g0d | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
No aug no party
2019-07-03 12:44
#356
ZywOo | 
Sweden Le_Dieu 
Easy
2019-07-03 12:49
#358
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Russia SparQ4k 
all this happens only becouse i bet ZywOo killed allu with awp ALEX killed sergej with ump45 ALEX + xseveN (assist) killed RpK with ump45 RpK + ALEX (assist) killed Aleksib with mp9 ZywOo killed xseveN with awp RpK killed Aerial with mp9 Aleksib + allu (assist) + allu(flash assist) killed NBK- with sg556 sergej + allu(flash assist) killed apEX with ak47 (headshot) Round started
2019-07-03 12:50
#359
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Russia iHaZaR 
ez 2.5 over
2019-07-03 12:50
Round over - Winner: CT (7 - 15) - Enemy eliminated ZywOo killed allu with awp ALEX killed sergej with ump45 ALEX + xseveN (assist) killed RpK with ump45 RpK + ALEX (assist) killed Aleksib with mp9 ZywOo killed xseveN with awp RpK killed Aerial with mp9 Aleksib + allu (assist) + allu(flash assist) killed NBK- with sg556 sergej + allu(flash assist) killed apEX with ak47 (headshot) Round started 3v5 gg
2019-07-03 12:50
#361
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Ukraine vexuzz 
noobence
2019-07-03 12:50
Sorry to break it down to you but both teams arent top 10 teams ^^
2019-07-03 12:50
both are weak teams without AUG
2019-07-03 12:55
aerial 4kills with usp only lol
2019-07-03 12:52
#368
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Denmark stranDe 
Ez 26.5 :-)))
2019-07-03 12:54
#372
 | 
China yakmonster 
godzywoo want under
2019-07-03 12:56
#370
 | 
Asia mocity123 
ZywOo WOW
2019-07-03 12:56
#371
woxic | 
Turkey ao1 
zywoooooooooooooooo
2019-07-03 12:56
how do you even stop this guy once he starts rolling? Does ZyWoo ever miss an AWP shot?
2019-07-03 12:56
No he doesn't because he cheats. Played many times with VAC banned players and has himself multiple bans for cheating. But sure now he is legit :))
2019-07-03 12:57
#409
 | 
France 0racle 
Nice fake news, flair checks out
2019-07-03 13:22
So glad ENCE are being exposed hard now for being terrible, AUG and SG abusers who have a map pool of 2 maps, pathetic finish dogs (lol)
2019-07-03 12:57
#375
 | 
Russia SparQ4k 
Round over - Winner: CT (9 - 16) - Bomb defused ZywOo defused the bomb apEX + RpK (assist) killed Aleksib with ak47 ZywOo + NBK- (assist) killed sergej with awp sergej killed NBK- with sg556 (headshot) ZywOo killed allu with awp allu planted the bomb (3on3) ZywOo killed Aerial with awp ZywOo killed xseveN with awp Aleksib killed RpK with sg556 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with sg556 (headshot) Round over - Winner: CT (9 - 16) - Bomb defused ZywOo defused the bomb apEX + RpK (assist) killed Aleksib with ak47 ZywOo + NBK- (assist) killed sergej with awp sergej killed NBK- with sg556 (headshot) ZywOo killed allu with awp allu planted the bomb (3on3) ZywOo killed Aerial with awp ZywOo killed xseveN with awp Aleksib killed RpK with sg556 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with sg556 (headshot) Round over - Winner: CT (9 - 16) - Bomb defused ZywOo defused the bomb apEX + RpK (assist) killed Aleksib with ak47 ZywOo + NBK- (assist) killed sergej with awp sergej killed NBK- with sg556 (headshot) ZywOo killed allu with awp allu planted the bomb (3on3) ZywOo killed Aerial with awp ZywOo killed xseveN with awp Aleksib killed RpK with sg556 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with sg556 (headshot) Round over - Winner: CT (9 - 16) - Bomb defused ZywOo defused the bomb apEX + RpK (assist) killed Aleksib with ak47 ZywOo + NBK- (assist) killed sergej with awp sergej killed NBK- with sg556 (headshot) ZywOo killed allu with awp allu planted the bomb (3on3) ZywOo killed Aerial with awp ZywOo killed xseveN with awp Aleksib killed RpK with sg556 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with sg556 (headshot)
2019-07-03 12:57
#377
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
how is aerial rated higher than xseven in that first map?
2019-07-03 12:57
Probably because of fewer deaths. Don't put too much of an emphasis on stats tho, everyone knows xseven had more impact
2019-07-03 12:59
more deaths
2019-07-03 12:59
#378
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
how they didnt hear zoom from zywoo?
2019-07-03 12:57
Finally csgo back to where it belongs to be, this aug era was pure cancer
2019-07-03 12:58
#382
 | 
France StickyRice 
ZywOo 26 kills in 25 rounds, EZ 1.04 kill per round, EZywOo
2019-07-03 12:58
#387
 | 
Finland saunantaka 
Ence is playing pretty terrible. If they lose, it's well deserved. No excuses.
2019-07-03 13:00
#388
 | 
Denmark Ulver 
The logo of Vitality always reminds me of....THE MIGHTY MONARCH! Die Dr. Venture! youtube.com/watch?v=tz4PdpfI7zY&t=2s
2019-07-03 13:01
NBK 17-14 rating 1.26 RPK 17-13 rating 1.11 same ADR same KAST, how's the rating count ?
2019-07-03 13:02
#390
 | 
Lithuania verslininkas 
2019-07-03 13:04
BS algorythm we don't know what is made of. Probably factoring some 1vX or open kills ? Didn't watch the game did NBK have impact clutches ? Or did RPK have more eco kills ?
2019-07-03 13:06
NBK had very important kills and clutches
2019-07-03 14:12
#392
 | 
Europe EBANblYDEMON 
lmao flukence
2019-07-03 13:04
#393
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
Valve should check zywoo I think he is a pro who still use hacks.... he was not this good 6 months ago and now he is doing everything.... he is probably cheating rn.... his mouse and screen needs to be check
2019-07-03 13:04
lul you never watch him play long time ago didnt you? this man is on fire for a long long time back when envy still have kennys apex nbk.
2019-07-03 13:06
#400
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
bruh #317
2019-07-03 13:08
#397
 | 
Czech Republic Hazel_Eyes 
Ahahah check over for what? Another one word v2.0.exe?
2019-07-03 13:07
#404
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
Valve should check zywoo I think he is a pro who still use hacks.... he was not this good 6 months ago and now he is doing everything.... he is probably cheating rn.... his mouse and screen needs to be check
2019-07-03 13:11
Flair checks out. On a side note, he has been this good for like 2 years. Anyone who followed the french scene can ackowledge that, and even top pros in FPL. Only difference is he wasn't doing it at premier events because of highschool.
2019-07-03 13:07
#401
 | 
Indonesia tsokai 
Valve should check zywoo I think he is a pro who still use hacks.... he was not this good 6 months ago and now he is doing everything.... he is probably cheating rn.... his mouse and screen needs to be check
2019-07-03 13:09
good news: sunny is coming back
2019-07-03 13:07
Will Augerial get the boot ? Possibly if he plays like this at the major...
2019-07-03 13:09
stunna has the shittest haircut ever lol get a clue you gay cunt
2019-07-03 13:10
which one of these fluke teams will be going home
2019-07-03 13:17
#407
 | 
Denmark stranDe 
Free 600 on ence +5.5 (Ez 120)
2019-07-03 13:19
its already over lets switch to inferno
2019-07-03 13:19
I believe that ENCE found more secrets of tactic than Astrails in NUKE
2019-07-03 13:23
Doesn’t feel like a 5 star match
2019-07-03 13:24
ENCE PLSSSSS I want to see the third map
2019-07-03 13:27
5-0 - - - - - -> 5-16 omegalul ence
2019-07-03 13:27
#415
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CIS K0STYAMBA 
nbk is running and shooting with any gun he buys. can we pls hit 20 likes cuz its really bad :(
2019-07-03 13:29
#416
 | 
Europe EBANblYDEMON 
5 0 5 16
2019-07-03 13:33
5-0 > 5-10 Bye bye, fluke shit
2019-07-03 13:33
#418
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
bring back cbble and cache tired of watching shitty nuke and vertigo
2019-07-03 13:33
#419
 | 
Australia not_prokda 
Throw lul But Vitality are known chokers so let’s see their t side
2019-07-03 13:34
#420
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
Aerial literally throwing the match, he's so bad
2019-07-03 13:34
#422
 | 
CIS K0STYAMBA 
if ence stops making stupid mistakes they will win this
2019-07-03 13:35
5-0 to 5-8 wtf
2019-07-03 13:35
Wow imagine if Vitality didnt decide to start with a handicap 0 to 5... Now its too ez 4 ence
2019-07-03 13:36
Retard confirmed xd
2019-07-03 13:38
8 rounds ctside lul xd
2019-07-03 13:40
Yea but they wont win inferno i guess
2019-07-03 13:43
Retard confirmed xd i guess
2019-07-03 13:47
Xdd
2019-07-03 13:55
#426
 | 
Denmark stranDe 
No way ence doesnt win atleast 4 rounds on ct
2019-07-03 13:40
Theyre about to win 9 lol. Can Vit even win 3 should be ur question
2019-07-03 13:41
Oh no only 7 rounds on nukes T side against Vitality. Finnish bots!!!!!!!!111!
2019-07-03 13:41
#430
 | 
Denmark stranDe 
#407 Ez pz
2019-07-03 13:42
Even if ence win nuke they wont stans a chance on inferno i guess
2019-07-03 13:42
Why's that? Vitality stat padded inferno stats from shit MDL teams, ENCE against liquid, navi etc
2019-07-03 13:45
#435
 | 
Russia SparQ4k 
even if ence win nuke? lmao its 100% win for them , ez for ence
2019-07-03 13:46
Why vitality still keeping alex? he's pure trash lol
2019-07-03 13:46
I don't think this is bad igling on T side. You must be new. hltv.org/stats/players/matches/8184/ALEX
2019-07-03 13:53
#437
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South America FAN_OF_M16R 
Vitality strats: ZywOo go kill
2019-07-03 13:50
#438
 | 
CIS K0STYAMBA 
nbk still being lucky af
2019-07-03 13:52
wtf is this 1v2 ENCE ??
2019-07-03 13:52
shit CS from a shit team, back to being irrelevant AUG abusers
2019-07-03 13:52
LuckBK strikes again
2019-07-03 13:53
Xseven played so well then makes a very stupid decision why the hell is he running out to peek 10 secs left and he needs to plant????
2019-07-03 13:53
#444
 | 
Finland Emvi 
that 2v1 from ence just rekt by brain, might have to stop watching cs
2019-07-03 13:54
#445
 | 
Australia not_prokda 
Now ence will lose from 11-8 CT side Loot.bet major
2019-07-03 13:54
#449
 | 
Russia SparQ4k 
ahahahahaha nice joke noob even thoug i bet on ence i understand its easy ct side for them
2019-07-03 13:57
#447
ZywOo | 
Sweden Le_Dieu 
ZywOo no entry no party
2019-07-03 13:55
Second day in a row where Vitality lose a map due to an unnecesarry force
2019-07-03 13:57
#455
 | 
Russia SparQ4k 
when did they do unnnecessary force lol?
2019-07-03 14:05
yeah dude 1 force lost them 11 rounds in a row on t side?
2019-07-03 14:08
Didn't say that
2019-07-03 14:12
Is nbk calling on inferno?
2019-07-03 13:58
Yes, because Alex did not play inferno with LDLC
2019-07-03 14:10
#469
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South America FAN_OF_M16R 
Ez 4 Vita then We seen how Alex call on D2 yesterday 10-5 -> 10-16
2019-07-03 14:16
Yesterday was a bad day (every team has bad days ...) but you know, Vitality has gone so high in the ranking since Alex started leading T-sides ...
2019-07-03 14:17
ma boi sergej just finish this
2019-07-03 14:00
Sergej wp, keep going
2019-07-03 14:04
map 3 ence all the way
2019-07-03 14:08
ence on inferno OMEGALUL
2019-07-03 14:09
#460
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Israel slasheed11 
who will win on inferno?
2019-07-03 14:09
#466
 | 
China yakmonster 
if ALEX keep play like shit on inferno ENCE will win this
2019-07-03 14:12
#463
 | 
China yakmonster 
ALEX back to shit tier ...
2019-07-03 14:12
Sergej is insane, without him ez 2-0
2019-07-03 14:14
#474
 | 
France reakq  
ZywOo is insane, without him 0-2
2019-07-03 14:19
Hard truth :'(
2019-07-03 14:22
Vita Ence on inferno? Done that, been there : twitter.com/teamvitality/status/11327354..
2019-07-03 14:14
Vitality wins inferno 16 10
2019-07-03 14:17
#476
 | 
World breezy0 
in your dreams
2019-07-03 14:21
Cry is free
2019-07-03 14:38
#501
 | 
World breezy0 
Aleksib is tactical genius. He is most know of his signature tactic "going B, but then going A". He also has second little known tactic of " going A, but going A. What a absolute legend. Top 5 IGL
2019-07-03 14:38
#478
ZywOo | 
Sweden Le_Dieu 
Im so tired of apEX, such a hit or miss player its frustrating.
2019-07-03 14:22
#481
 | 
Vietnam QuxN 
Vitality will be VitaLULty after this bo3
2019-07-03 14:23
Ence needing both pistols to win, theyd 100% lose without 2
2019-07-03 14:23
gg
2019-07-03 14:27
ENCE's t-side on inferno is just OMEGALUL stuff 14-1 probably UPD: lmao 15-0
2019-07-03 14:31
#485
 | 
Russia oles_gal1k 
Round over - Winner: CT (0 - 4) - Enemy eliminated RpK killed allu with m4a1 (headshot) RpK killed Aleksib with m4a1 RpK killed xseveN with m4a1 RpK killed Aerial with m4a1 (headshot) Aerial killed NBK- with ak47 (headshot) allu killed ZywOo with ak47 (headshot) ALEX killed sergej with galilar sergej killed apEX with ak47 Round started T O P - 2
2019-07-03 14:31
#486
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Finland Emvi 
its a 4v2, and cant trade rpk. UNLUKO
2019-07-03 14:31
You cant trade Le Tank.
2019-07-03 14:34
4 players can't kill RPK alone on A site oh my god xD
2019-07-03 14:32
#488
 | 
Spain elskio 
gg
2019-07-03 14:34
go home Finland boys u look all 15 year old, let the man play the game!
2019-07-03 14:34
#491
 | 
Finland Emvi 
gg
2019-07-03 14:35
How The hell is this shit team ranked number 2 xd cant beat washed up 🥖
2019-07-03 14:36
apex disabled LOL
2019-07-03 14:36
ence is so trash.. how astralis lose to this trash?
2019-07-03 14:36
#495
 | 
France StickyRice 
If s1mple is #1 then ZywOo is #2
2019-07-03 14:36
They are same.
2019-07-03 14:38
#505
 | 
World breezy0 
not really xD
2019-07-03 14:40
Ok, ZywOo is better.
2019-07-03 14:40
#517
 | 
World breezy0 
hahahaha deluded french, zywoo is really good but not as good. also the rest of the team sucks and you will find out soon enough
2019-07-03 14:42
#496
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
16-0
2019-07-03 14:36
ENCE is the worst T1 Inferno team
2019-07-03 14:38
#500
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
worst t1 dust2, op and inferno team. Literally only win bo3 if they have train and dust2 in there
2019-07-03 14:38
#503
 | 
World breezy0 
WHY THE HATE
2019-07-03 14:40
#506
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
literal bots, that's why 0 teamplay across every game
2019-07-03 14:40
they vetoed d2 btw
2019-07-03 14:41
#514
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
Yes, but how does that change my comment at all?
2019-07-03 14:42
they disagree with it since they think they can't win a bo3 with d2
2019-07-03 14:44
lose 4v2 lose game
2019-07-03 14:39
Hallo ence wat doink
2019-07-03 14:40
#507
 | 
Indonesia hexover 
Aleksib -> AWPER?
2019-07-03 14:40
6. ENCE removed Dust2 7. Inferno was left over
2019-07-03 14:40
#510
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
2 4v2 losses ROFL
2019-07-03 14:41
#511
 | 
Austria mitriy_ov 
2019 year, second ranked team has 4 maps in their pool, lul
2019-07-03 14:41
4?
2019-07-03 14:42
3* Vertigo, Overpass, Dust2, Inferno = ENCE not found
2019-07-03 14:44
#519
 | 
Finland Karppanator 
try 2 maps, train and nuke
2019-07-03 14:43
#513
REZ | 
Denmark Wizzje 
9-6 inc
2019-07-03 14:42
Stupid retard xd
2019-07-03 14:44
#528
REZ | 
Denmark Wizzje 
no toxic u piece of shit
2019-07-03 14:46
God sergej
2019-07-03 14:42
RIP 16-0 :( But 16-1 still ok
2019-07-03 14:43
Rpk actually using his brain wtf is happening
2019-07-03 14:44
WE ARE INSANE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
2019-07-03 14:46
"WE" Hahaha.
2019-07-03 15:27
hahaha i cringe at everything hahaha.
2019-07-03 15:34
You said "WE" so that's cringe if you want to talk in those terms :smileyface:
2019-07-03 15:37
That's a common way to speak about your favourite team accross all sports in the world. If that makes you cringe i'm sorry for you *upside down smileyface*
2019-07-03 15:42
It's a way to place yourself under their merit, which is clearly not the case since you didn't contribute with anything to their evolution.
2019-07-03 18:03
Well that's your opinion and i can't care less about it Bye
2019-07-03 18:04
How's that an opinion I can't tell you. And also, you pretend to not care and still reply to my posts - pretty hypocrite in this scenario I must say. Also, you didn't counter my point at all, you just labeled it in various ways thinking that it holds any meaning in doing so.
2019-07-03 18:40
If you don't respond you say you win and if i do you say you win, pretty easy isn't it. I told you i don't care because i have 0 interest arguing with you. I will use the word i want and you can cry as much as you want about it, you can't do anything. If you want to give your opinion and feel accepted online you can go there where people seems to enjoy wasting their time on such futile debates: debate.org/opinions/as-sports-fans-do-we..
2019-07-03 18:48
"If you don't respond you say you win and if i do you say you win, pretty easy isn't it." Read it again and understand your broken logic. Let me do it for you: - If I don't respond I say I win - Now how's that making any sense? Good job for projecting such a broken nonsensical idea "I told you i don't care because i have 0 interest arguing with you" And yet this is what you're doing, arguing with me. It's like we're in this scenario in which you and me are eating some cookies and when the last cookie's on the plate, you're stealing it just before I grab it with my hand and than say "There's no cookie on the plate?! I didn't eat the last one!". And your last sentence is pure gold. I will not even comment on that because I'll stain your well done comedy :).
2019-07-03 20:10
#662
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
You're pathetic
2019-07-03 20:53
Yes, because I proved to him what was wrong in his message? By the way, your reply doesn't hold any content whatsoever.
2019-07-03 20:59
#670
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Get a life.
2019-07-04 01:32
Says the one that comes from nowhere to beg some attention even though his name was not mentioned. Basically you're replying to a discussion in which you have no business my dear keyboard warrior.
2019-07-04 08:58
#678
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
#662
2019-07-04 13:27
You're still proving my point :D.
2019-07-04 14:19
#680
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
You don't have a point.
2019-07-04 14:47
0/8 :)
2019-07-04 14:48
#682
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Have fun arguing semantics and being a no life
2019-07-04 14:52
xDDDDDDD That's so much like you actually - psychological projection is real.
2019-07-04 15:17
#688
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Nice defense mechanism. Assume that the other person is projecting instead of assessing your own actions.
2019-07-04 15:47
It's called observation but it's more like the logical conclusion when it comes to the Mr. Witch Hunter itself.
2019-07-04 15:48
#691
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Quote where I witch hunted or stop making random assertions
2019-07-04 15:51
Yes, that was another guy actually but I do not remember his name...It had USA flag and barked everywhere about aimlocks while accusing pro players of cheats. I really used to make that guy hate me...wonder where he is now.
2019-07-04 21:22
Sorry for double reply. I apologize for calling you "witch hunter" because it's not the case with you. Like I said above, I'm mistaking you with other user. EDIT: Still, it doesn't make any sens for you to come and reply me in that manner with absolutely no reason - at least not a serious one.
2019-07-04 21:39
#712
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
You were literally arguing about if he would argue with you about fandom. That to me is pathetic and I dont change that stance. And in #655 you told him that his opinion (which we have now agreed upon that it is subjective) was not allowed to be an opinion. Attempting to control things you do not and should not have control of is worthy of a "get a life"
2019-07-05 04:51
I will address this from the bottom to the top of your reply this time: "Attempting to control things you do not and should not have control of is worthy of a "get a life"" First of all, who the hell are you or any other person on earth to tell others (or me) what should be controlled and what should be not? We're free to make this choice with the cost of wished or undesired consequences, right? Second of all, I wasn't even trying to control anything at all. If the person in cause is such a weak character that he'll change his stance just because I'm making references to his ridiculous statement, then the fault is only on his side since he sustained a broken or untrue idea from the beginning and realised afterwards that I was right. Though this is not the case so why bother so much? "You were literally arguing about if he would argue with you about fandom. " Now I'm wondering if you've ever read my replies at all, because there was nothing related to "fandom" as you say but to the selfishness of so called "fans" that are using the achievements of their favorite team to include themselves in their merit circle. Not saying that everyone does that, that's why I was addressing to this specific user and not to the public. But we talked about this already and you agreed with my point. Also, "no lifer" should be used in a completely different context. You could use better words to characterise my actions (from your point of view).
2019-07-05 11:17
#722
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Not gonna bother addressing the copious amount of delusion in this reply. You're really arguing that you should be able to tell others if they're allowed to have opinions
2019-07-05 16:45
Again, you're ignoring my message in which I clarified the fact that I do not argue about their opinions. It was never about his opinion but you cannot admit that you're wrong and now, seen yourself defenseless you're choosing to ignore :). You presented some form of intelligence throughout this discussion but it all falls short to your own ignorance, arrogance and self pride. I felt a bit bad for calling you a "witch hunter", but now I feel sorry for feeling sorry. EDIT: You also show that you're incapable to read a few words which is a shame in 2019.
2019-07-05 19:32
#724
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
"How's that an opinion I can't tell you." You actively telling him that what he deemed his opinion is not an opinion. Now you've completely backtracked and said you didn't say that. Pure delusion. "First of all, who the hell are you or any other person on earth to tell others (or me) what should be controlled and what should be not?" Then you tell me that you should be able to control his opinion. Free will, democracy and basic human rights dictate that you shouldnt. So that indicates psychotic tendencies. The only thing that has fallen short is your respect for others and their opinions.
2019-07-05 20:15
I can't believe that you failed again on the exact point. I laughed like crazy and I must thank you for this LOL moment :D. #726 says all xD
2019-07-05 21:35
#729
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
0 arguments. What exact point? It has been about opinions the entire time. It doesnt matter if you were referring to your opinion or his, the way you phrased it "hows that an opinion" indicates that you don't think it is an opinion, you think its fact which it is not because there is no "wrong" in this situation. Saying "we" completely depends on the person. #726 is just you COMPLETELY ASSUMING that I did not read the thread correctly. That's false, you're just assuming that I haven't because of your own phrasing. You were referring to your own statement but still made the claim that the topic has an objective right or wrong which again it does not.
2019-07-06 00:41
Stick with #732, you don't need to expose your stupidity twice per thread if you know what I mean xDDDDDDDD
2019-07-06 20:15
#736
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
If all you have left is ad hominem you can stop replying. It just means you have no relevant arguments left.
2019-07-06 21:31
#683
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Objectively false. Fans are the entire reason the sport exists and Pros regularly thank their fanbase and make comments like "without your guys support this wouldnt be possible" the notion that the fans don't contribute is moronic. Theres a reason the crowd is often called the "6th man"
2019-07-04 14:54
You're off the subject because you are presenting a totally subjective idea as being objective. Of course that the one who's up on the scene will talk about public as being the 6th man as you called it, but that's for their own good image and not because they are playing for the public.
2019-07-04 15:19
#686
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
How could they not play for the public? If the public wasnt watching they wouldn't have jobs. You're seeming to miss the correlation that fans = money = livelihood. Also you admit that the idea of the fans being part of the team is subjective and therefore your comment in #652 where you say the fans dont contribute is null. They do contribute and they are part of the evolution just not nearly as much as the players/org.
2019-07-04 15:44
You're off the subject because you are presenting a totally subjective idea as being objective. Of course that the one who's up on the scene will talk about public as being the 6th man as you called it, but that's for their own good image and not because they are playing for the public. If you want to become a footballer, you're dreaming to play for the sake of people that are watching? If your answer is "yes" keep it for yourself, at least you'll not give me more reasons to laugh.
2019-07-04 15:47
#690
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Its not just a side effect. They wouldnt be able to make ANY money if the public didnt watch. And like I said you already admitted that the idea was subjective and therefore you agree with the initial point that the Frenchie made in #641, that saying "we" when referring to a favorite sports team is reasonable, just that you dont subscribe to it. The only reason to become a footballer is because they are paid. If there was no salary for playing sports professionally no one would consider being one.
2019-07-04 15:53
But again you're off the subject because my original message said that he (the person who I replied) didn't bring anything in the evolution of Vitality. Anything else that doesn't touch my point is irrelevant to the subject in cause even though it might or might not be true. EDIT: You also agreed with my exemple with the footballer, it should be obvious to you that my words are pointing out the truth because being a footballer or a CS:GO pro player have identical reasons and concepts behind them.
2019-07-04 16:47
#704
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
If your only point is that HE specifically didnt contribute then that's fair. Any individuals contribution to a fanbase is going to be insignificant when isolated. But the reason fanbases are powerful is because they are huge masses. It still doesn't deny that fact that saying "we" isnt disrespectful or improper. I didnt agree with it I made a contrasting point that applied to my original argument. That fanbases are the reason professionals have jobs, they provide the income.
2019-07-04 16:52
Yes, my point is that he didn't contribute to what Vitality is today. Think about it for a second when you read his sentence and process the information as it is - "WE ARE INSANE WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF" Now what can you understand from his sentence is the fact that he didn't chose to admire Vitality as a team, as they are right now while saying "They are so insane". The self importance aspect is a priority for him even though the main star of this discussion and thread must be Team Vitality. Can you understand the point that I'm making? If not, I can explain it differently even though I'm not a native English speaker. "That fanbases are the reason professionals have jobs, they provide the income" That's true, but this is just one of the reasons - there are plenty more. That being said it is one of the most important aspects to have a real fanbase for your game / tournament / team.
2019-07-04 21:32
#710
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I understand your point I just dont think it's a neccessary point to make. Players love their fans, fans love their favorite players and so saying "we" really does no harm unless the individual actually feels as if hes achieved something but that's on them.
2019-07-05 04:35
I saw guys like him on HLTV every day spreading hate towards other teams or users that support their own favorite team. They deserve this trust me.
2019-07-05 07:54
#714
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I dont deny that but attack them on that notion, not illogical ones.
2019-07-05 08:38
When he uses broken replies like this "If you don't respond you say you win and if i do you say you win, pretty easy isn't it." in order to get himself in a defensive position, it pretty much proves that I "attacked him" on the right spot I'm afraid.
2019-07-05 10:39
#725
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Because you literally told him that his opinion should not be classified as an opinion. Therefore immediately claiming that you are correct. Instead of arguing which opinion was better you argued on the notion that his claim was not an opinion which is a nonsensical argument and therefore cannot be contested. He was right to call you out.
2019-07-05 20:17
"Because you literally told him that his opinion should not be classified as an opinion." Like I said earlier, you didn't read this discussion as you should but jumped around the rows thinking that you got the message. Want to see how you failed? - I WAS TALKING ABOUT MY OWN OPINION NOT ABOUT HIS. HIM: Well that's your opinion and i can't care less about it Bye ME: How's that an opinion I can't tell you. "He was right to call you out" Don't know what's that about, but who cares, you and your "friend" from above just failed in the same way devoured by ignorance.
2019-07-05 21:33
#728
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
It is an opinion. In your opinion saying "we" is improper. You asking "how is that an opinion" asserts the notion that you think that topic has an objective answer, which it does not.
2019-07-06 00:32
Now you're changing the subject xD. Don't try to twist it around when we both clearly know that you're wrong. You said that I literally told him that his opinion doesn't matter (you even quoted me on this) because you just couldn't read properly from the beginning and understand that I was referring to my own opinion. What a spectacular way to fail. Has been a long time since I saw anything like this.
2019-07-06 17:00
#731
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
because you just couldn't read properly from the beginning and understand that I was referring to my own opinion. It doesnt matter if it was your own opinion. I never said whose it was, I said that you stated that the topic was not subjective by claiming that IT WAS NOT AN OPINION therefore a fact, which it was not because it is subjective. Its really funny how your method of arguing has went from backtracking your words to straight up telling me that I'm wrong and I can't read. Only someone who is on their last leg in an argument would resort to that.
2019-07-06 19:37
"It doesnt matter if it was your own opinion. I never said whose it was" Now let me quote you on this one: "Because you literally told him that his opinion should not be classified as an opinion. " HIS OPINION means that the opinion is his and not mine. How can you fail in such manner? Are you ok? "Only someone who is on their last leg in an argument would resort to that. " This is you right now, the guy who can't read and can't remember his own words while arguing about something that only exist in his imaginary world. You absolutely rekt your own self with those replies and all of this because you're an ignorant internet warrior who can't sustain a valid point of view. It was long time ago when the moment in which your best choice was to shut the fuck up and now I'm assisting at the most pathetic and embarrassing moment from quite some time. Thank you for this comedy, it was a really good one since I laughed allot. GOOD DAY SIR :D.
2019-07-06 20:13
#735
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Yes because you're stating that the topic is objective. You do realize that by asking how your own statement is an opinion means that youre also claiming that the Frenchie cannot have an opinion right? Because you're claiming that it is not opinion and that it is fact from your viewpoint. My entire point is that you made the claim that the topic Is objective and I've already quoted the sentences in which you did
2019-07-06 21:30
Dude, you're arguing for a nonsense because you called something that's completely untrue. Now you're trying to justify it by twisting the words in your favor. Guess what? Doesn't work this time. Also, we should do something better than to post on a discussion that's already done and dusted. This is a "get a life" moment.
2019-07-06 23:00
#740
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Calling my argument nonsense is a very weak comeback. Just because you cant understand something does not mean its false. Thanks again for confirming that you have no stake in this conversation and dont understand basic grammar principles.
2019-07-07 06:10
"Calling my argument nonsense is a very weak comeback" What comeback? There was never a moment in which I needed to comeback. You heavily denied your own arguments, but it was fun I must give you that :). "dont understand basic grammar principles." Odd, because I was thinking the same about you, but who cares? You're a good comedian anyway. CHEERS!
2019-07-07 11:44
#742
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Like I said, just because you dont understand how subjectivity and objectivity work doesnt mean I'm wrong. Your last 4 posts have just been you claiming that you're correct and using logical fallacies, not once did I deny my own argument, again you just dont understand basic grammar.
2019-07-07 12:13
Nice try again, you can try to explain yourself here in order to look a bit better in this ridiculous failed discussion. You completely ignore the fact that you didn't read my posts correctly and then made untrue claims based on your broken understanding. So how it is to lose by your own hand ?:D
2019-07-07 18:06
#744
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Nothing I said was untrue. You directly stated that the topic was objective.
2019-07-07 19:05
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD So you again ignore your previous mistake "Because you literally told him that his opinion should not be classified as an opinion. " You're trying so hard to fix something that's unfixable. Monumental failure will beg for a monument build.
2019-07-07 19:27
#525
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South America FAN_OF_M16R 
EZ 4 LE TANK ENCE MOST OVERRATED TEAM IN CS GO HISTORY
2019-07-03 14:46
both games with the same scoreline
2019-07-03 14:46
#527
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Finland FinYuna 
Ence won second map for this? God, wtf really..
2019-07-03 14:46
Wtf wtf Big and ence same score
2019-07-03 14:47
#530
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Sweden Kasidro 
Tbf vitality was extremely lucky in the first 7-8 rounds, could have easily gone the other way.
2019-07-03 14:48
#532
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Finland Karppanator 
Look at how they lose every easy 1v1 time and time again, they don't have the skill needed to hit any easy shot Also they almost exclusively play bad spots in plant holds and get eliminated for nothing way more often than not
2019-07-03 14:50
#542
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Sweden Kasidro 
Looked like ence got a bit tilted, nbk hitting shots like he does in one game out of 50
2019-07-03 14:54
#547
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Finland Karppanator 
Ence are always tilted nowadays with no real prospects of showing better form, they don't have a good map pool (nuke, train only fucking maps they can do anything) gtfo aerial or xseven or they are going to drop to t2 after the major
2019-07-03 14:55
#553
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Sweden Kasidro 
I would probably get rid of aerial, I wanna see ence do good. So much fun to watch when they actually play good
2019-07-03 14:57
11-2 on both streams, scripted event
2019-07-03 14:49
esl always been suspicious but makes no sense to do it so blatantly
2019-07-03 14:51
Fuck i jinxed everything
2019-07-03 14:50
ez 3.6x on +5.5 ence??????????? (back when they were 1-11 down)
2019-07-03 14:51
its possible, Vitality shit T-side
2019-07-03 14:55
ye, vitality should have had 15-0 / 14-1 / 13-2 half, but 11-4 is really comebackable if you win ct pistol...
2019-07-03 14:56
I think 11 4 for both and come back xd
2019-07-03 14:51
Xd xd omg omg look at this both match really wtf is this shit esl skip this fucking event guys
2019-07-03 14:52
No fucking way
2019-07-03 14:53
#540
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South America FAN_OF_M16R 
Le Choke inc ?? 11-1
2019-07-03 14:53
#541
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CIS Ptic 
over 26.5 incoming what a problem to play 11-1 and end 13-2 half?
2019-07-03 14:53
It's match-fixing obviously.
2019-07-03 14:56
there's no problem to play 11-1, but why end 11-4 omegalul
2019-07-03 14:57
ZywOo road to s1mple
2019-07-03 14:54
#534 ez 1k?
2019-07-03 14:54
#545
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Russia SparQ4k 
11-1 11-4 nice throw
2019-07-03 14:55
this is why I never bet on csgo , they control everything.
2019-07-03 14:57
#546
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Nigeria karmaunreal 
remember last night vitality vs nip matches?xDD
2019-07-03 14:55
#549
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Sweden hen11111 
maybe vitality today get enced
2019-07-03 14:56
#552
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Australia not_prokda 
If vitality loses it, then it is 100% rigged
2019-07-03 14:56
Xd ye hes right remember vitality vs nip but here match fix for both match
2019-07-03 14:57
#557
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Russia SparQ4k 
OFC i bet 26.5 UNDER AND THIS IDIOTS THROW IT FROM 11-1 SCORE
2019-07-03 14:57
sergej killed apEX with usp_silencer (headshot) sergej killed RpK with usp_silencer (headshot) sergej killed ZywOo with usp_silencer (headshot) sergej killed NBK- with usp_silencer (headshot) Round started
2019-07-03 14:58
Sergej is so good man fuck my life
2019-07-03 14:58
#534 about a damn time i get a new phone
2019-07-03 14:58
11-2 14-16 trashtality
2019-07-03 14:59
#562
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Australia not_prokda 
11-1*
2019-07-03 15:00
#563
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Bosnia and Herzegovina fucklove 
11-1 ---> 13-16
2019-07-03 15:00
#564
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Japan bongut12 
Can ence do comeback ? XD
2019-07-03 15:00
#565
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Nigeria karmaunreal 
two stream comeback in progress hahahha coincident?
2019-07-03 15:01
#567
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Australia not_prokda 
Aha I was thinking about the same thing Also it was 11-1 on both of the matches and comeback starts
2019-07-03 15:02
#566
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Finland Autisthicc 
if ence kick allu and aerial and replace them with jamppi and sunny then this team is actually good
2019-07-03 15:01
4v2 with 3k from apex LMAOO
2019-07-03 15:02
#569
Sosa | 
Europe wtfmen)) 
Otto noob
2019-07-03 15:03
x)
2019-07-03 15:03
2v5 HAAHAHAHA
2019-07-03 15:03
2vs5 lost. gg
2019-07-03 15:03
#573
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United Kingdom VOsskJi 
Round over - Winner: T (13 - 7) - Enemy eliminated apEX + NBK- (assist) killed Aerial with ak47 NBK- killed allu with ak47 (headshot) apEX killed sergej with ak47 (headshot) NBK- planted the bomb (2on3) NBK- + apEX (assist) killed xseveN with ump45 NBK- killed Aleksib with ump45 Aleksib killed ZywOo with scar20 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with scar20 (headshot) Aleksib killed RpK with scar20 mm game?
2019-07-03 15:03
4v2 lose 5v2 love 5v1 lose 5v0 lose 5 lose
2019-07-03 15:03
ENCE is the worst rofl
2019-07-03 15:03
#576
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Finland Emvi 
how do you keep losing these rounds
2019-07-03 15:03
#577
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Finland Karppanator 
Every favorable situation they have they throw, JUST FUCKING PEEK AS 2 FOR 1 TIME AND SEE HOW YOU WIN, bye bye #1, try learning cs from the ground up, maybe you will win cs title in finland again and be content with that
2019-07-03 15:04
And 5v2 next round Kys
2019-07-03 15:03
#579
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South America FAN_OF_M16R 
Scar nooob ahahahaha
2019-07-03 15:04
4 vs 2 on 11–7 5vs2 on 12-7 Xddddd
2019-07-03 15:04
#581
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Bosnia and Herzegovina fucklove 
apEX + NBK- (assist) killed Aerial with ak47 NBK- killed allu with ak47 (headshot) apEX killed sergej with ak47 (headshot) NBK- planted the bomb (2on3) NBK- + apEX (assist) killed xseveN with ump45 NBK- killed Aleksib with ump45 Aleksib killed ZywOo with scar20 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with scar20 (headshot) Aleksib killed RpK with scar20 Round started RIP ENCE xD
2019-07-03 15:04
#582
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Poland crouzzz 
END OF ENCE ERA RIP FINLAND
2019-07-03 15:04
#583
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Asia mocity123 
Round over - Winner: T (13 - 7) - Enemy eliminated apEX + NBK- (assist) killed Aerial with ak47 NBK- killed allu with ak47 (headshot) apEX killed sergej with ak47 (headshot) NBK- planted the bomb (2on3) NBK- + apEX (assist) killed xseveN with ump45 NBK- killed Aleksib with ump45 Aleksib killed ZywOo with scar20 (headshot) Aleksib killed ALEX with scar20 (headshot) Aleksib killed RpK with scar20 Round started LMAO
2019-07-03 15:04
#584
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Denmark stranDe 
9-0 lose to pistol rush 11-1 lose 5v4 11-2 lose 5v4 11-3 lose 5v4 11-4 lose pistol 11-7 14-7 14-11 16-11 ez over
2019-07-03 15:04
#585
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Denmark Su4ka 
fucking xseveN lose all game alll keys rounds... stupid dog
2019-07-03 15:04
this
2019-07-03 15:11
Are you ok, ence fans?
2019-07-03 15:04
#588
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Finland Faust_fSt 
Not until xseven is removed from this team.
2019-07-03 15:05
#590
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Finland Karppanator 
+1000
2019-07-03 15:06
2vs4 2vs5 gg
2019-07-03 15:04
Why is ZywOo playing entry
2019-07-03 15:05
#591
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
lmao look at vitality coach dude is eating nails
2019-07-03 15:06
#595
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Finland Karppanator 
He's nervous vs actual bots with no teamplay rofl
2019-07-03 15:07
#611
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
nt plastic fan
2019-07-03 15:11
#620
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Finland Karppanator 
Better to be a 'plastic' fan who expects better than losing every advantage you have in a bo3 like a mm bot versus being a asslicker of ence who never sees anything wrong with them, this team is fucking bad right now and they don't do anything to fix easy things, like nobody had the idea of peeking together instead of 5 second delays
2019-07-03 15:13
#592
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Denmark Su4ka 
xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH
2019-07-03 15:06
#592
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Denmark Su4ka 
xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH
2019-07-03 15:06
YOU CANT OUTSMART ZYZY BOT ALLU
2019-07-03 15:06
#596
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Finland Karppanator 
you think zywoo is a genius for hearing a running player huh
2019-07-03 15:07
I guarentee you that 8/10 player would't have turned there. The other one being S1mple
2019-07-03 15:08
This
2019-07-03 15:12
#621
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Finland Karppanator 
Yeah pros don't turn around when they hear people, wow you're delusional This is the type of false hype you see for big names for no reason at all
2019-07-03 15:14
You obviously never watched or played csgo before to say that
2019-07-03 15:14
funny guy
2019-07-03 17:43
xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH xseveN TRASH
2019-07-03 15:07
how much?
2019-07-03 15:11
was great on nuke tho
2019-07-03 15:14
#534 just one more gun round ence and i'll have that mf'ing skrilla :)))))
2019-07-03 15:08
#601
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Finland Karppanator 
LOSING TO SMG AND PISTOL RUSH ON A HAHAHAAHAHAHA
2019-07-03 15:08
#602
s1 | 
Armenia gr1nch 
flukence, no augs no win
2019-07-03 15:09
2v5 ENCE gg
2019-07-03 15:09
#604
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Russia GutturalSlug 
top 2 my ass
2019-07-03 15:09
Lost to top 3 so not as humiliating. Still sad 4 ence
2019-07-03 15:10
#609
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Finland Karppanator 
hltv ranking is fucking useless, it does nothing to gauge current form
2019-07-03 15:10
#613
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Russia GutturalSlug 
yes thats what I mean. there's no way these two teams are current top2 and top3
2019-07-03 15:12
#660
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Then who is?
2019-07-03 20:51
#661
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Russia GutturalSlug 
I would say astralis/navi
2019-07-03 20:53
#671
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Yet Navi hasnt played in 3 months and when they did they lost to Heroic on LAN and the most recent tournament Astralis and Vitality attended, Vitality won. Not to mention Vitality Ence and Astralis are literally separated by 7 points, might as well be tied for 2nd.
2019-07-04 01:34
#624
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Finland Punksutin 
It doesnt inform current form but form on longer timespan.
2019-07-03 15:14
#628
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Finland Karppanator 
Ence hasn't played in a month and didn't do anything to fix their bad maps and still are arrogant to always permaban vertigo, good teams don't need to ban a map because they're bad in it, good teams are good on every map and ence are verifiably only good on train and nuke, along with the dust2 luck they sometimes have. They are just really bad individually. The retarded system gave points to ence while they weren't competing and reduced the better teams, vitality, astralis points because of their respective good and bad finishes, although they actually fucking played.
2019-07-03 15:19
#672
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
It's not a retarded system, you just dont understand basic ranking principles. E.g Inactivity decay and recent results having more weight. Astralis hasnt had any good finishes lately they went out in groups at ECS and quarters at EPL losing to NRG with a dead roster and their old good results decayed farther, why would they have regained #2?
2019-07-04 01:42
EZ AF ZYWOO GOD TOP 1
2019-07-03 15:09
solo hold on A with an ump
2019-07-03 15:09
#610
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Europe userfriendly 
lolol ence ending on rank 14 on this tournament, gz :D
2019-07-03 15:10
ENCE so fucking bad
2019-07-03 15:11
ENCE =out.... hahahaha omfg that was a blow out
2019-07-03 15:11
#618
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Russia evg1804 
As I thought it was pretty close match and Vita won
2019-07-03 15:12
#619
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Bosnia and Herzegovina Ozimandias 
Kick fuckng trash xseven and get Sunny in your team. You are not top 2 team when you playing like tier 2, lost 5 vs 2
2019-07-03 15:14
GG ence ! I'm sad Vitality had to fight aIready against them :(
2019-07-03 15:13
#623
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China FFLin 
Absolutly bad result for ENCE this time. But I still trust them.
2019-07-03 15:15
#629
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Finland Karppanator 
For what reason? They haven't won anything else than blast, you have to expect better from them, they are too content with their situation, they're not going to be #1 ever, and certainly with both of aerial and xseven in the roster
2019-07-03 15:18
#645
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United Kingdom TiKoPigeon 
plastic AF lol
2019-07-03 15:59
Their days are gone now that the AUG has been nerfed. They'll soon need to bring suNny in for Aerial
2019-07-03 16:23
You know that Aerial was actually a really good rifler even before the AUG meta? He is probably one of the best M4A1-S players in the world. youtube.com/watch?v=fmxBD0E9Ctw
2019-07-04 16:02
They are too content ? What does that mean
2019-07-04 21:51
#709
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Finland Karppanator 
Comfortable in their current situation, with no desire to push themselves to be better.
2019-07-04 22:27
#715
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I could see that, theyve certainly overperformed but at the same time they seem to be an unrelenting team. Doesnt really seem like they're ever shook which leads to the conclusion that they're consistently prepared. I dont think they lack motivation I just think they werent able to win vs a really good team that counters them in a few ways.
2019-07-05 08:40
EZ4ENCE to go home.
2019-07-03 15:18
finally Ence will be on right place in next ranking
2019-07-03 15:23
#633
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Finland k4mi 
Awww. GG Vitality! ENCE kinda choked today but sergej's plays we're amazing.
2019-07-03 15:25
Another "Gambit" story ends...
2019-07-03 15:26
What happend to my Finska bröder :(
2019-07-03 15:26
Decided that 3 hours of CS a day is enough to win titles :)
2019-07-03 15:46
#642
f0rest | 
China ZerOck 
gg
2019-07-03 15:45
#664
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France s2ptik 
REKT BY VITALITY EZ
2019-07-03 20:56
ENCE bahahahahahahahahaha
2019-07-03 22:08
my name checks out worst top2 in CSGO history , what a shame 0 tier1 events won top2 in the ranking kkkkkk
2019-07-04 00:23
#673
FugLy | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Since when do you have to WIN tournaments to be SECOND?
2019-07-04 01:45
They won StarSeries Season 6, tier1 event according to Liquipedia. Placed second on tier1 events DreamHack Masters Dallas and Katowice 2019. Won tier2 events BLAST Madrid, Europe Minor, DreamHack Open Winter. All this within a year, easy top2. You can see it from the amount of jealous people who troll on HLTV.
2019-07-04 15:54
Check Starseries s6 team list there were no top 10 teams
2019-07-04 15:55
mouz, nrg, big?
2019-07-04 16:44
Only mouz was top10
2019-07-04 16:44
wtf, big was definitely top 10, and if i remember right nrg was number 10?
2019-07-04 16:45
2019-07-04 16:46
#711
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France LanaRhoades 
11 tier 3 teams , 3 garbage teams and 2 good teams
2019-07-05 04:39
Maybe but this was closer to t1 than cs_summit
2019-07-05 08:52
#719
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France LanaRhoades 
CLEARLY NOT LOL. On Cs_summit you can't have an easy road. ENCE + LIQUID in playoffs + 8-2 on group stage lol. But it was like 8-10 monthes ago. This tournament wasn't tier 1 but BLAST was a big event imo. ENCE deserved this #2 imi
2019-07-05 12:35
But let's say truth no one gave a fuck about summit
2019-07-08 03:03
#733
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Finland Tusku 
ah yes, the classic 8 month fluke by ence
2019-07-06 20:14
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