Maps
Best of 3
* Grand final
1. Hard Legion removed Nuke
2. BIG removed Vertigo
3. Hard Legion picked Inferno
4. BIG picked Train
5. Hard Legion removed Mirage
6. BIG removed Overpass
7. Dust2 was left over
Rewatch
Highlights
M1 | svyat - 1vs2 clutch (T - bomb planted after 1 clutch kill)
M1 | nex - 3 M4A4 kills on the bombsite A defense (2vs3 situation)
M1 | tabseN - 3 SG553 kills on the Mid offensive (vs upgraded pistols)
M1 | tiziaN - ACE
M1 | tabseN's ACE and 1vs2 clutch attempt are denied by the final CT (svyat)
M1 | Forester - 3 AK kills on the bombsite A defense
M2 | Forester - 1vs2 clutch (CT - post-plant situation)
M2 | smooya's ACE and 1vs3 clutch attempt are denied by the final CT (Forester)
M2 | XANTARES' ACE and 1vs4 clutch attempt are denied by the final CT (Forester)
M2 | smooya - 1vs2 clutch (CT - post-plant situation - second half pistol round)
Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
tabseN
|
40-36 | +4 | 99.7 | 69.4% | 1.27 |
Owen 'smooya' Butterfield
smooya
|
28-32 | -4 | 64.2 | 55.1% | 0.91 |
|
Tizian 'tiziaN' Feldbusch
tiziaN
|
26-35 | -9 | 63.8 | 59.2% | 0.89 |
|
Johannes 'nex' Maget
nex
|
29-37 | -8 | 66.3 | 59.2% | 0.81 |
Ismailcan 'XANTARES' Dörtkardeş
XANTARES
|
22-36 | -14 | 48.8 | 65.3% | 0.69 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
Igor 'Forester' Bezotecheskiy
Forester
|
44-31 | +13 | 82.3 | 75.5% | 1.35 |
|
Svyatoslav 'svyat' Dovbakh
svyat
|
34-27 | +7 | 81.8 | 73.5% | 1.18 |
|
Vladislav 'Krad' Kravchenko
Krad
|
32-26 | +6 | 76.1 | 69.4% | 1.11 |
|
Anton 'speed4k' Titov
speed4k
|
32-30 | +2 | 68.1 | 75.5% | 1.08 |
|
Semyon 'kinqie' Lisitsyn
kinqie
|
34-31 | +3 | 75.0 | 75.5% | 1.03 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
tabseN
|
27-19 | +8 | 113.2 | 82.8% | 1.50 |
|
Tizian 'tiziaN' Feldbusch
tiziaN
|
20-16 | +4 | 73.8 | 65.5% | 1.16 |
|
Owen 'smooya' Butterfield
smooya
|
20-16 | +4 | 67.3 | 58.6% | 1.05 |
|
Johannes 'nex' Maget
nex
|
18-18 | 0 | 75.7 | 65.5% | 0.98 |
|
Ismailcan 'XANTARES' Dörtkardeş
XANTARES
|
11-18 | -7 | 37.0 | 69.0% | 0.70 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Vladislav 'Krad' Kravchenko
Krad
|
20-18 | +2 | 82.9 | 69.0% | 1.18 |
|
Svyatoslav 'svyat' Dovbakh
svyat
|
19-17 | +2 | 72.7 | 65.5% | 1.08 |
|
Igor 'Forester' Bezotecheskiy
Forester
|
20-21 | -1 | 71.3 | 72.4% | 1.04 |
|
Semyon 'kinqie' Lisitsyn
kinqie
|
16-21 | -5 | 64.9 | 65.5% | 0.85 |
|
Anton 'speed4k' Titov
speed4k
|
12-19 | -7 | 42.3 | 65.5% | 0.76 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
tabseN
|
13-17 | -4 | 80.2 | 50.0% | 0.98 |
|
Owen 'smooya' Butterfield
smooya
|
8-16 | -8 | 59.6 | 50.0% | 0.70 |
|
Ismailcan 'XANTARES' Dörtkardeş
XANTARES
|
11-18 | -7 | 65.8 | 60.0% | 0.69 |
|
Johannes 'nex' Maget
nex
|
11-19 | -8 | 52.8 | 50.0% | 0.59 |
|
Tizian 'tiziaN' Feldbusch
tiziaN
|
6-19 | -13 | 49.2 | 50.0% | 0.50 |
| K-D | +/- | ADR | KAST | Rating | |
|
Igor 'Forester' Bezotecheskiy
Forester
|
24-10 | +14 | 98.1 | 80.0% | 1.83 |
|
Anton 'speed4k' Titov
speed4k
|
20-11 | +9 | 105.5 | 90.0% | 1.59 |
|
Svyatoslav 'svyat' Dovbakh
svyat
|
15-10 | +5 | 95.0 | 85.0% | 1.36 |
|
Semyon 'kinqie' Lisitsyn
kinqie
|
18-10 | +8 | 89.6 | 90.0% | 1.32 |
|
Vladislav 'Krad' Kravchenko
Krad
|
12-8 | +4 | 66.2 | 70.0% | 1.01 |
Lineups
Past matches
Core
Team
#1
LDLC_1_Major_Sangal_1_Maj3r
Gratisfaction |
LDLC_1_Major_Sangal_1_Maj3rEZ4BIG
9 replies
#3
|
FATTEST_BIG_FAN_300KG
| FATTEST_BIG_FAN_300KG+1 OMG SO EASY FOR BIG CLAN BEST TEAM EVER
7 replies
#4
|
X5ander
| X5ander+1 i will eat a tripple whopper, if BIG will do it !
3 replies
#36
|
syrso
| syrsoHopefully BIG will lose then
#143
|
xalyava
| xalyavaEZ 4 big yea?)
1 reply
#149
|
X5ander
| X5andermatch doesn't count dude. BIG normally smash Herd Legion.
#13
|
BIG_DESTROYED_MIBR
| BIG_DESTROYED_MIBRWhere is BIGGEST_BIG_FAN?
1 reply
#67
|
X5ander
| X5anderwe have now FATTEST BIG FAN, much better. :-)
#112
handreader
ZywOo |
handreaderbig is only good with dickstacy sticker in my skins
#14
|
GreatReddDragon
| GreatReddDragonMY DICK IS SO BIG AND HARD !!!
#2
Nigotess10yrs
Ant1ka |
Nigotess10yrsEZ 4 GOD KRAD
1 reply
#29
|
Mousesports_top_1_hltv
| Mousesports_top_1_hltvEZ 4 GODS HARD LEGION
#5
Pirlinho123
chrisJ |
Pirlinho123Both team have a spot for lan,why they this match?
2 replies
#6
|
nrth_LUL
| nrth_LULseeding battle
1 reply
#7
|
ZephyrBruh
| ZephyrBruhwhat kind of seeding?
#8
x676
smooya |
x676BIG are in Movistar Riders bracket, why are they playing against Hard Legion ? doesn't make sense
1 reply
#9
|
currrro
| currrronothing at this tournament makes sense
#10
|
Preaq
| Preaqthis is the weirdest tournament format what i have seen so far. mb bc it doesnt get updated on hltv
#11
|
huberez
| huberezstupid tournament
#12
|
GreatReddDragon
| GreatReddDragon* Grand final
* Grand final
* Grand final
#15
|
peterpantheking
| peterpanthekingCan you update the event page pls?
#16
snus_addict
huyak |
snus_addictmeaning of this match?
#17
Paddo09
Paddo09HLTV update your coverage. It is a mess.
3 replies
#30
tupackur
tupackurThe tournament has 3 stages, initial (preliminary) stage, last chance stage, and final stage. First two stages have groups and playoffs. It is explained here:
hltv.org/news/27364/european-champions-c..
For a clear visual representation of the format, check the Liquipedia article:
liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Eden_Esport..
HLTV event page only covers the first two stages. If they updated the page to include final stage, it would be more of a mess. Because the brackets section does not indicate which bracket belongs to which stage clearly.
I don't know the technicalities, but I guess a better website infrastructure is needed for it, what HLTV has is inferior for this tournament format.
#31
tupackur
tupackurThe tournament has 3 stages, initial (preliminary) stage, last chance stage, and final stage. First two stages have groups and playoffs. It is explained here:
hltv .org/news/27364/european-champions-cup-announced-with-60000-prize-pool
For a clear visual representation of the format, check the Liquipedia article:
liquipedia .net/counterstrike/Eden_Esports/Champions_Cup/Europe
HLTV event page only covers the first two stages. If they updated the page to include final stage, it would be more of a mess. Because the brackets section does not indicate which bracket belongs to which stage clearly.
I don't know the technicalities, but I guess a better website infrastructure is needed for it, what HLTV has is inferior for this tournament format.
PS: My post is not showing if I include links :(
1 reply
#32
Paddo09
Paddo09Thx Mr. Brazil
#19
finnbs
robby |
finnbsBIG will throw and Krad and co. wil take this
1 reply
#28
|
Mousesports_top_1_hltv
| Mousesports_top_1_hltvAVE LEGION
#20
bhop2major
RuStY |
bhop2majorpls guys tell me who will win there i want to buy new pc so bad my bank is only $4
3 replies
#22
Sealkead
nEGRo |
Sealkeadzywoo
#26
sexic
Gratisfaction |
sexicbig clan 2:0
#33
Ninjatek
NinjatekBIG First map
#21
ATURAouSURTA
PPOverdose |
ATURAouSURTAWow odds went down so much
It was 1,44 for big and 2,62 the -1,5
#23
H833
mir |
H833Should be BIG vs Movistar and HL vs Spirit
1 reply
#43
insency
insencymovistar forfeit since they are qualified to playoffs. spirit forfeit since they qualified on playoffs. and this may be forfeited either of the teams coz they are already qualified to the playoffs
liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Eden_Esport..
#24
Devilofthedeath
tarik |
DevilofthedeathTo all the people out there that want to bet on this map make sure that u know they both qualified so they don’t give a shit :))
My best bet is to go small on under 26.5 on all 3 maps, look at Faze va Fnatic in ESL when they knew they both qualified
#25
max_bax
broky |
max_baxIf it's not important match I guess BIG will throw odds are too sweet to resist
#27
|
Mousesports_top_1_hltv
| Mousesports_top_1_hltvGOGOGOGOGOHARDLEGION
#34
N1kDaN
JoJo |
N1kDaNez BIG CLAN
#35
|
dAnyS5S5S
| dAnyS5S5SEsli legion zahot9t win, to they win. Kl9nus’
#37
|
JakoDaFurr
| JakoDaFurrIf both teams dont care and I concider that HL plays on a different level day by day I would say BIG wins 2:0. (And im not a BIG fan at all, just because im german....)
#40
Murilo101
Jamppi |
Murilo101legion can upset gl guys
#42
Nellis
Nellisweird odds for a game that doesnt matter
2 replies
#45
|
Xeeh
| XeehWhy does it matter how important the game is? Do you think big are going to just lose on purpose because the game doesnt matter?
1 reply
#48
Nellis
NellisNot lose on purpose just not give a fuck. Alot of teams admit to not caring about certain games.
#44
|
bEZRYK
| bEZRYK2-1 big lose
#46
|
AutismSkizm
| AutismSkizmFiddy on hard Legion why not
1 reply
#47
|
atlapse
| atlapsewhy not
#49
sexic
Gratisfaction |
sexic1 map hard sex? you sure?
#54
JeleonJapine
kennyS |
JeleonJapine2-0 BUG clan?
#56
|
atlapse
| atlapseafter watching that pistol round i can conclude that hard legion fucking lost this series
#58
|
MaestroGOD
| MaestroGODXantares has become such a bot
#59
|
BIG_DESTROYED_MIBR
| BIG_DESTROYED_MIBRsmooya is losing big so many rounds
fucking bot
#60
|
yungz0r
| yungz0rHard legion can win this if they will take first map
#61
hltvmen
hltvmen3-0 BIG, easy @6.0 on HL
Also got 2-0 HL @13 pre-game lol.
imgur.com/a/LFX9UDO
#62
|
sexiestuser
| sexiestusersecond best german team losing to a deaf guy and someone named kinqie xDDDDD
#63
qbiy
valde |
qbiyGayrmany boyz
#64
|
123456789012a
| 123456789012aNice odds on legion
#65
Devilofthedeath
tarik |
DevilofthedeathAs i said big doesn’t give a shit about this match so you should go with under 26.5 or hdc hl every map
3 replies
#71
|
Sir_Cumcised
| Sir_CumcisedThanks for making me bet under 26.5, fak you
2 replies
#75
Devilofthedeath
tarik |
DevilofthedeathWell i got my hdc hl +4.5 on 1.94 odds so it’s all good xd
1 reply
#77
|
Sir_Cumcised
| Sir_Cumcisedyou owe me 50$
#66
|
s0APOGGERS
| s0APOGGERSnow big will win
2 replies
#68
|
GreatReddDragon
| GreatReddDragonyes?
#182
*Tpo-_-JI.b*
LeX |
*Tpo-_-JI.b*gl with that
#69
Partikip
Partikipeven in this game, xantares is gold nova
#70
|
Sir_Cumcised
| Sir_CumcisedWell this will defo be over 26,5
#72
gus0p
gus0ptabsen gets 4 frags and then gets too smart for his own good
1 reply
#76
|
AffinityZ
| AffinityZthat was painful to watch after killing 4 on A
#73
|
kvezee
| kvezeesmooya
100 $200 11 2 12 50.5
XANTARES
100 $800 9 0 12 35.8
1 reply
#74
Partikip
Partikipgold nova
#79
|
G4uray
| G4urayEZ4 DREAMEATERS
#80
Nellis
NellisHard Legion say 'just come B every round dont worry we won't defend'
#81
gus0p
gus0psmooya goin for the headbutt
#84
hltvmen
hltvmeneasy @6 on map1.
Added more odds for 2-0,, have @13, 7, 6
#85
Murilo101
Jamppi |
Murilo101bot big hahaha
#86
|
ALPHA949
| ALPHA949Nice match fixing BIG lol not surprised
#88
AbteilungsleiterDerLiebe2
boltz |
AbteilungsleiterDerLiebe2Xantares only lan god now hahah
#89
|
FATTEST_BIG_FAN_300KG
| FATTEST_BIG_FAN_300KG2-1 BIG win
1 reply
#147
*Tpo-_-JI.b*
LeX |
*Tpo-_-JI.b*Rektered by pros
#90
|
MaestroGOD
| MaestroGODk1to is definitely much better than bottares
1 reply
#93
nigger88
nigger88+corners of a circle
#91
|
JakoDaFurr
| JakoDaFurr+4.5 and +5.5 handicaps were a giveaway on this. Still i thought big is finally on a skill level again where t2 shouldnt be a struggle at anytime anymore.
#92
|
123456789012a
| 123456789012aHah fucking ez odds on HL thanks bug
#94
olacomotamos
f0rest |
olacomotamosA pracc on hltv POGGERS
#95
m5_cs
m5_csWut
#97
*Tpo-_-JI.b*
LeX |
*Tpo-_-JI.b*Wow what a Major final! Lez go!
#98
|
123456789012a
| 123456789012aLmao es 2-0 odds on legion, didn't expect it to be this ez
#99
|
LoookATme
| LoookATmehahahhaahahahahahahahahaah
#100
|
Czari10
| Czari10ok so basically hard legion are throwing train and probably whole match - 2-0 up
3v4 bomb is planted
they save
#101
|
123456789012a
| 123456789012aWhere you at bug bettors hahahah
1 reply
#111
|
Xeeh
| Xeehlearned my lesson long ago
not this time
#102
InuT
InuTbig is trying really hard not to win this
#103
|
EnoHP
| EnoHPWtf is this big.
#104
|
s0APOGGERS
| s0APOGGERSrigged tournament haha
#105
|
2ez4exquisite
| 2ez4exquisiteGj big,rly tir1:)
#106
jcole_goat1337
jcole_goat1337Hahahah big disband
#107
Biggest_APPLE_FAN
tough guy |
Biggest_APPLE_FANExpected
#108
|
123456789012a
| 123456789012aOK retards, I'll explain. This is a final and there is nothing at stake, both have qualified. This is like a scrim for big. Ofc hl will try hard.
4 replies
#109
|
Xeeh
| XeehWhy would hard legion try any harder if it doesnt matter for them either
2 replies
#120
JDG14
AmaNEk |
JDG14Unlike BIG, Hard Legion wants to prove to the world that they can "compete" with the likes of BIG. For them this is not just a scrim or practice game. This is an actual Grand Finals for them to win.
#160
hehexd13
hehexd13Because they are underdogs, and beating teams when you are the underdog is a great boost of confidence going into further matches.
#144
|
MaestroGOD
| MaestroGOD"Final and nothing at stake. Ofc HL will tryhard"
???
#110
|
HLTVORG_CREATOR
| HLTVORG_CREATOREz -1.5 with 10 coefficient on Hard
#113
|
FoxOutOfGlocks
| FoxOutOfGlocksWhy they play this match, seems useless af, I guess u get higher seeding or something as there is 3 invite teams so maybe you are supposed get easier group as result as you are counted as 4 top seeds so you will only have 1 top seed in your group but still seems not worth honestly (if it even is like this anyway...)
#114
|
Vex1337
| Vex1337tizian is braindead
#115
XueYewOw
XueYewOwi really like watching big get rekt jajaja
this team has no future without gobb
#116
DenjeNoiceGuy
Xyp9x |
DenjeNoiceGuyBIG losing to Bot Legion? You cant be serious. L M A O ahahahaHahah.
#117
Juuhis
Juuhisyesterday lose vs sj gaming 2-0 but now win vs BIG 2-0:DDDDDDD
4 replies
#121
|
Xeeh
| Xeehanything outside of tier 1 LAN events are complete bullshit these days
#123
Gronk22
RpK |
Gronk22SJ>big
#127
No_rice_no_life
Get_Rice |
No_rice_no_lifeSJ >>>>>>>> BIG
#128
|
fowkingell
| fowkingellThis match is completely useless anyways, both are already qualified so why would they play at their best?
#119
|
4eKaBo
| 4eKaBoBig 4to za pomoika haha haha sbrod mysora syka
#122
|
Sonnabend
| SonnabendThey are both already qualified, if you bet on this you are officially retarded.
#124
No_rice_no_life
Get_Rice |
No_rice_no_lifeD0gtares onliner LUL
#126
VARIANCE_IS_BUTTFUCKING_ME
VARIANCE_IS_BUTTFUCKING_MEwhy tf would they peek instead of holding angles in that 2v2 afterplant lel
#129
|
fucklove
| fucklovealmost lost 5vs2 ahah bog is dead
#130
|
steambored
| steamboredBig bettors
LUUUUL
#131
MeeTaZ
MeeTaZLol if hard legion wins, ez 3k $ lol fking ez combo bet xd
2 replies
#133
Murilo101
Jamppi |
Murilo101$3 you mean?
1 reply
#163
MeeTaZ
MeeTaZ3078€ sorry for using $.
#132
Faze_Never_Won_Against_Spirit
s1mple |
Faze_Never_Won_Against_SpiritTBH its not even funny to laugh at big anymore.
#134
jcole_goat1337
jcole_goat1337Big is a meme
#135
NasixAN
huyak |
NasixANNICE 322 LMAO
#136
tentoesdown
BrandoM |
tentoesdownXAXAXAXAXA
#137
ScR1337
NEO |
ScR1337Fucking russian cunts, everytime I bet on them they lose like retards, but when I bet against somehow they play good and win ez, fucking cancer
3 replies
#138
banana276
Jame |
banana276grandfinal with no prizepool always go underdog bro
#142
legendcs
GeT_RiGhT |
legendcsahahahah welcom e to esport bettin
#145
scarecrow7008
KSCERATO |
scarecrow7008phahah you so stupid as fak
#139
Rapu
Dosia |
RapuGG :)
#140
|
Mantasboi1
| Mantasboi1Was expecting close maps but hard legions just stomped them
#141
|
feelsbadmane
| feelsbadmaneI hope BIG shuffles after this....honestly what were u thinking putting turk who cant speak english or german in a international team
#146
xyperstone
xyperstonenice fucking dogs
#148
hltvmen
hltvmeneasiest money ever. @6 map1, @13, 6, 7 2-0 lol.
#150
*Tpo-_-JI.b*
LeX |
*Tpo-_-JI.b*One of the best major final evar, tnx valve for an amazing major grand final, expected win!
#152
|
KattiZ
| KattiZwat
#153
|
Tarasov
| Tarasovxantares&smooya wat doink
#154
|
mad_player
| mad_playerEZ 4 HL
#155
|
Champione
| Championeezpz
#158
flipflop
dupreeh |
flipflopBIG's pick
#159
rektalalchemist
ZywOo |
rektalalchemistLOL
#161
Pooknezeu
Dosia |
PooknezeuBIG really have to change players!
#162
|
breezy0
| breezy0loooooooooool BIG are just a pug team at this point
when do we get german dream team with tabsen,nex,syrson,k1to,faven?? how much longer BIG want to continue this clown fiesta
3 replies
#183
|
doMK0
| doMK0BIG would never drop tizian. He has been performing decent recently anyways. They only one with pressure is smooya. If he doesnt bring his game to a constant high lvl, they will bring in sysrson after his contract with sprout expires, pretty sure.
2 replies
#184
PwnNewb
vilga |
PwnNewbyeah I agree. that roster above sounds like a fan fantasy team that would actually be way worse than current team. If anything the team seems to need better leadership, when gobB was IGL they did well. they could use smooya to step up but strats seem to be biggest problem since gobB left
oh ya plus BIG was doing good even with legija and gobB so clearly issue isnt about firepower
1 reply
#186
|
breezy0
| breezy0The problem is communication and team play, can't do that with xantares who speaks neither good english nor german and smooya is just a pug player
#164
Wurstkreatur
nex |
WurstkreaturError 404 - Xantares not found since 2017
2 replies
#169
|
Tormund1
| Tormund1karma is a b*tch
#171
|
Lennon1923
| Lennon19232018*
#165
theflushingflash
theflushingflashdogshitares
#166
liquid_dodging_onlines
nitr0 |
liquid_dodging_onlinesLMFAO
#167
|
AVANGAR_IS_BIGGEST_FLUKE
| AVANGAR_IS_BIGGEST_FLUKEAhah bug
#168
`DinGo
ropz |
`DinGotabseN 1vs5
#170
1Tapsen
1Tapsen+syrson
+k1to
when?
2 replies
#173
AbteilungsleiterDerLiebe2
boltz |
AbteilungsleiterDerLiebe2Sprout contracts run out by end of the year
So german superteam soon
1 reply
#176
1Tapsen
1Tapsenhope so
#172
Pengas
mitsuha |
PengasGerman always lose to Russian
#174
yokol
yokolxantares kick pls
#177
h4m
depressed |
h4mkick trashtares pls
#178
Claymann
ClaymannNex tizian and xantares BAN forever please
1 reply
#179
AbteilungsleiterDerLiebe2
boltz |
AbteilungsleiterDerLiebe2but not smooya?
OMEGALUL
#180
|
Mousesports_top_1_hltv
| Mousesports_top_1_hltvez noobs
#181
*Tpo-_-JI.b*
LeX |
*Tpo-_-JI.b*Tnx for gg
#185
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SpiritsOfFire
| SpiritsOfFireThis is embarrasing, get some proper IGL like idk, maybe Natosaphix or Spiidi
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sn0uby
Trashhero |
sn0ubyi'm surprised only a few people realized both teams are qualified and big is as shaddy as always, Baiting people on their map pick after a 13-16.
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