12:30
24th of January 2020
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 1 (LAN) * Group B opening match
1. North removed Mirage
2. Sprout removed Nuke
3. North removed Inferno
4. Sprout removed Overpass
5. North removed Train
6. Sprout removed Vertigo
7. Dust2 was left over
Dust2
North
16
(11:4; 5:0)
Sprout
4
Rewatch
OtherDreamHack (Pre-Match Analysis)Vod
OtherDreamHackVod
OtherDreamHack (Post-Match Analysis)Vod
Highlights
dycha quad kill hold
MSL snipes down three break the defense
gade and cajunb win the 2v4
gade double entry kill
Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Nicklas 'gade' Gade
gade
20-9 +11 102.3 70.0% 1.65
Denmark
René 'cajunb' Borg
cajunb
14-8 +6 72.7 80.0% 1.31
Denmark
Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Kjaerbye
13-10 +3 83.5 80.0% 1.27
Denmark
Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
MSL
13-13 0 75.2 75.0% 1.26
Denmark
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
aizy
12-12 0 53.4 80.0% 1.00
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Czech Republic
Tomáš 'oskar' Šťastný
oskar
16-13 +3 68.2 65.0% 1.05
Poland
Paweł 'dycha' Dycha
dycha
13-15 -2 72.5 45.0% 0.77
Germany
Josef 'faveN' Baumann
faveN
11-14 -3 66.5 65.0% 0.77
Germany
Denis 'denis' Howell
denis
8-14 -6 57.2 70.0% 0.75
Germany
Timo 'Spiidi' Richter
Spiidi
4-16 -12 44.7 40.0% 0.41
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Nicklas 'gade' Gade
gade
20-9 +11 102.3 70.0% 1.65
Denmark
René 'cajunb' Borg
cajunb
14-8 +6 72.7 80.0% 1.31
Denmark
Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Kjaerbye
13-10 +3 83.5 80.0% 1.27
Denmark
Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
MSL
13-13 0 75.2 75.0% 1.26
Denmark
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
aizy
12-12 0 53.4 80.0% 1.00
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Czech Republic
Tomáš 'oskar' Šťastný
oskar
16-13 +3 68.2 65.0% 1.05
Poland
Paweł 'dycha' Dycha
dycha
13-15 -2 72.5 45.0% 0.77
Germany
Josef 'faveN' Baumann
faveN
11-14 -3 66.5 65.0% 0.77
Germany
Denis 'denis' Howell
denis
8-14 -6 57.2 70.0% 0.75
Germany
Timo 'Spiidi' Richter
Spiidi
4-16 -12 44.7 40.0% 0.41
Player of the matchwon with 52.1% of the votes
Head to head
2
Wins
0
Overtimes
2
Wins
nizza
2020-01-14 17:34
6 replies
#17
Zero | 
Czech Republic cortan
Pigga
2020-01-16 19:17
5 replies
EZ 4 MSLGOD
2020-01-24 04:42
4 replies
Who is god bruh?
2020-01-24 05:45
3 replies
#67
Zero | 
Czech Republic cortan
Me
2020-01-24 09:49
2 replies
Prokda is that u?
2020-01-24 13:17
1 reply
I'm ProkdaGod and you are poor drevokocúr
2020-01-24 14:07
2-0 Sprout
2020-01-14 17:42
2 replies
16-8 sprout
2020-01-14 18:14
1 reply
+1
2020-01-24 09:46
i believe in sprout <3
2020-01-14 18:11
ez4sprout in bo1,it will be inferno,16 13 spirit
2020-01-14 18:12
No problem for Sprout
2020-01-14 18:13
1 reply
+1
2020-01-24 09:47
#7
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Poland Spanksss
Ez dycha
2020-01-15 06:18
4 replies
i have never been in polen, but i have se snax, and now i have seen dycha,,,is that how polski men look like hahahhahahahaa
2020-01-24 13:18
3 replies
#293
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Poland Spanksss
DK education lmao
2020-01-24 22:05
2 replies
hahaha polen is a loser country, many hoes,,,,,and ober 40 milion,,,live outside off polen,,,what a idiot.
2020-01-24 23:24
1 reply
#295
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Poland Spanksss
easiest report of my life (:
2020-01-25 01:58
N♿rth aka only dreamhack team
2020-01-15 10:00
1 reply
#15
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Macau Be_Happier
North Disband 😊
2020-01-16 09:43
-Spiidi +ayken and it’s good
2020-01-15 10:01
EZ for North A.K.A Dreamhack Open Official Ambassador
2020-01-15 10:03
so ez for dycha "dycha" dycha
2020-01-15 16:12
2 replies
i have never been in polen, but i have seen snax, and now i have seen dycha,,,is that how polski men look like ?
2020-01-24 13:33
1 reply
yes only polish women are pretty
2020-02-04 15:28
#12
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Brazil Manlai2k
EZ OSKAR
2020-01-15 21:31
North kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-01-15 22:35
2-0 Sprout Ez 4 Oskar
2020-01-16 00:56
Why did North changed their past logo to this autistic Norf new one ? Its to fit their solid braindead roster or what
2020-01-16 19:15
2 replies
yes
2020-01-21 20:45
#64
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Kazakhstan JPDragao
yes
2020-01-24 09:01
Ez 4 JUGI
2020-01-17 14:55
2 replies
this didnt age well
2020-01-17 18:33
#20
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Czech Republic Karmazzzzz
Jugi benched cause MSL is coming back ;-)
2020-01-18 12:44
ez for north 6v5, can't lose this
2020-01-18 14:22
#22
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Czech Republic PaYaB
North will stay forever average just like FC Copenhagen
2020-01-18 17:27
7 replies
Czech football lmao. Flair checks out
2020-01-23 18:21
6 replies
#44
BDSM | 
Czech Republic Skeng_
wdym? Czech football much more relevant than Danish :D
2020-01-23 19:00
3 replies
Whatever you are smoking i need some of that
2020-01-24 13:46
2 replies
Like Sparta Prague is better than FC Copenhagen lulmate be more deluded
2020-01-24 13:46
Slavia Praha is in Champions League?
2020-01-24 16:32
#48
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Czech Republic PaYaB
can't deny facts tho our football is trash too, same goes to Denmark
2020-01-23 22:18
tfw we talking football here
2020-01-24 13:29
#23
MSL | 
World Houzzy
EZ 4 MSL
2020-01-19 02:47
MSL leave north to join optic and now return to north still wearing north jersey
2020-01-20 07:10
5 replies
lol
2020-01-21 05:29
Stonks
2020-01-21 20:45
I think that He got benched by north
2020-01-23 14:46
2 replies
no lmao we just resigned him. Jugi is benched
2020-01-23 18:54
1 reply
i mean that he got benched in 2018 by north dude
2020-01-24 15:42
#26
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Latvia Geymaster
Imagine being North and benching juugi instead of decoy cajunb Ez4Sprout Ez4Oskar
2020-01-21 11:09
ez for 2017 mouz
2020-01-21 11:20
bet sprout ez money
2020-01-22 19:51
ez for dycha
2020-01-22 22:37
New and improved north
2020-01-23 00:09
ez for MSL
2020-01-23 10:46
ez for dycha
2020-01-23 13:35
Easy for North & MSL 2000 %
2020-01-23 15:36
good luck dycha
2020-01-23 17:29
#40
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Sweden Trkmag
Dycha and oskar deadly duo
2020-01-23 17:46
Ez grandpa osky
2020-01-23 18:05
wtf 2.5 odds in sprout vs dead team? all in
2020-01-23 19:05
2 replies
#46
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Bulgaria MaestroGOD
denis and spiidi
2020-01-23 20:21
1 reply
+1
2020-01-24 12:27
#47
JW | 
Sweden w0nfig1
i want to say sprout gonna win but omega lul i see spiidi and denis
2020-01-23 20:34
3 replies
Nothing wrong with spidii hes doing a good Job as igl Denis is xd tho
2020-01-23 22:39
2 replies
+1 - denis + any good riff = top10
2020-01-23 22:54
#59
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Japan pawbeast
Yea its last chance for dennis to become consitent good player.
2020-01-24 04:47
#51
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India mafiago
2-0 sprout but since this is bo1 so 1-0 sprout
2020-01-23 23:01
North 16-12
2020-01-23 23:23
North win this, because Msl is real mastermind German CS LUL dycha 1v9 inc
2020-01-24 00:03
1 reply
#58
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Japan pawbeast
Lul u got oskar who will outclass awp msl
2020-01-24 04:47
another easy DH for MSL
2020-01-24 01:56
North without MSL = topKEK North with MSL + DH tournament = PogU
2020-01-24 03:11
#57
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Japan pawbeast
Thats a nice odds for sprout Msl awp <<<<oskar Stars kjaerbye and aizy <<<<<<1.25 god dycha Cajun shit same as gade and denis and spiddi
2020-01-24 04:46
5 replies
msl <<<<< oskar? are you drunk? Welcome in 2020, MSL is good AWPer and oskar is shit for two years.
2020-01-24 08:32
4 replies
oskar still better than msl however i think norph got this unless dycha fucking murders them
2020-01-24 10:01
2 replies
#87
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Japan pawbeast
Dycha will murder those fake danish team
2020-01-24 12:18
1 reply
dycha is a very good player but kjaerbye has good cheats
2020-01-24 12:20
#74
ropz | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w
LUL
2020-01-24 11:39
#62
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Bulgaria MaestroGOD
But why you kept cajun? Even jugi was better than him...
2020-01-24 08:40
Dat norph again, maybe msl will change some thing or not.
2020-01-24 08:58
norph
2020-01-24 09:51
cmon mah danish boys
2020-01-24 09:59
65-35 NORTH
2020-01-24 10:27
Ez for Markus Kjaerbye
2020-01-24 10:58
#73
JW | 
Sweden w0nfig1
If Oskar plays good it’s the only way Sprout can win
2020-01-24 11:38
1 reply
He played good, they still got rekt.
2020-01-24 16:10
was going to bet on North then saw MSL back on North xD all in Sprout
2020-01-24 12:09
2 replies
AJHAHAHAHAH. ez for papa oskar
2020-01-24 12:10
1 reply
#88
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Japan pawbeast
Dycha&oskar ezzzz
2020-01-24 12:18
North back to top10 with GOD MSL
2020-01-24 12:10
1 reply
Will be ez for legend oskar
2020-01-24 12:12
finally north with an experienced IGL.good luck my bucks are on you
2020-01-24 12:13
#86
 | 
Japan Sayon4Ra
Wheres jugi? Device2.0
2020-01-24 12:16
People really thinks that Sprout can win on LAN ahahahah good joke North ban Dust2, Mirage, Inferno SProut ban Overpass, Vertigo, Train Nuke decider 16-9 for North thanks me later
2020-01-24 12:18
7 replies
rip your money. Dycha will shit on these scrubs
2020-01-24 12:20
1 reply
How much noob ?
2020-01-24 13:49
Shit veto LMAO
2020-01-24 12:22
im really cant believe someone still bet on north after all this years. guys, what wrong with you??
2020-01-24 12:25
2 replies
Im relly camt belief dat peuple camt spaell en englush inn 2020.
2020-01-24 12:31
How much noob? ez for North as i wrote
2020-01-24 13:49
i think aswell north^^ won already on big
2020-01-24 12:36
#93
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Poland EzzCSGO
ez for dycha
2020-01-24 12:22
16-14 for norph norph are the kings of dreamhack open
2020-01-24 12:24
Dycha online noob1k ez north
2020-01-24 12:28
1 reply
Wtf you dude... lul you bro... Who online????
2020-01-24 12:54
#102
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Russia Hanc3
dust2 LOL
2020-01-24 12:29
Nice veto North the only map where Sprout actually can play lol
2020-01-24 12:30
#104
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Europe H1P_STER
EZ 4 GODMSL
2020-01-24 12:31
#106
 | 
Denmark Chokemark
MsLuL back in action
2020-01-24 12:32
GG sprout win
2020-01-24 12:32
Oskar says in Twitter :I hate dd2 XDd
2020-01-24 12:32
Lol north cant plau on d2 without valde
2020-01-24 12:32
1 reply
dude its fucking sprout... what ever map being played, i cant see sprout winning even 10 rounds
2020-01-24 12:38
kjaerBOT+cajunBOT=MSL
2020-01-24 12:33
1 reply
😂😂😂😂++ nice man
2020-01-24 12:33
Oscar smurfing
2020-01-24 12:35
Why North has Stone Island logo on their jerceys
2020-01-24 12:36
1 reply
Haha
2020-01-24 12:45
North vs S(pr)outh
2020-01-24 12:38
Quit surprised that North hasn't disbanded yet despite of gaining nothing from last year
2020-01-24 12:40
sprout win 26.5 over
2020-01-24 12:41
1 reply
#127
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Turkey kubz1337
+1
2020-01-24 12:46
DOSIA <3
2020-01-24 12:41
easy for sprout 2,6 odds ty
2020-01-24 12:41
Dust 2...should be ez for the northerns
2020-01-24 12:42
3 replies
No man valde was a beast in dust now nothing here for north
2020-01-24 12:44
2 replies
we'll see :)
2020-01-24 12:47
Also they were nothing in all maps when they didn't have msl
2020-01-24 12:49
North disband after this game.
2020-01-24 12:42
1 reply
I like 👍👍👍👍
2020-01-24 12:57
Will Denmark last longer than 6 hours this time?
2020-01-24 12:45
2 replies
Well they last more than me
2020-01-24 12:46
1 reply
No you did a good job holding off the ruskis
2020-01-24 13:02
Start play bitchki
2020-01-24 12:47
start mens)))
2020-01-24 12:48
Would love for a german team to take the next step (top 5-10, maybe even higher) - Germans getting hyped about CS would do so mutch for the "sport".
2020-01-24 12:55
#133
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Japan pawbeast
technical issues so u have tons of money to sing best technical support and u have technical issues ?XD
2020-01-24 12:54
Sprout will win 16:10
2020-01-24 12:54
If bettors bet is better than the bet of best bets, then who will bet on bettors betting?
2020-01-24 12:55
3 replies
#140
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Russia Hanc3
me
2020-01-24 12:58
Joe
2020-01-24 12:58
Eye see what you did there
2020-01-24 12:59
Thx for the delay. Might be able to watch the Cloud9 game now.
2020-01-24 12:55
Start bydet blyat'?
2020-01-24 12:57
If Michael Jackson had a fashion line, what would it be called?
2020-01-24 13:01
1 reply
Billy Jeans
2020-01-24 13:02
Ofc
2020-01-24 13:02
oskar hard carry
2020-01-24 13:04
Oskar wtf these shots illegit
2020-01-24 13:05
7 replies
"illegit" hahajahaha XDd
2020-01-24 13:06
6 replies
It is a word though? It's literally short form of illegitimate
2020-01-24 13:08
5 replies
He meant illegal
2020-01-24 13:18
4 replies
How would you know?
2020-01-24 13:45
3 replies
Cuz its illegal since hes from CIS
2020-01-24 13:49
2 replies
?? I think you wanna withdraw your words homie
2020-01-24 13:50
1 reply
No
2020-01-24 13:51
Oskarsports
2020-01-24 13:05
Ty for 1,85 north
2020-01-24 13:06
So far sprout bettors malding
2020-01-24 13:07
Osprout*
2020-01-24 13:07
#156
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Brazil KingDavi
Dycha god omg
2020-01-24 13:10
dycha is a beast.
2020-01-24 13:11
1 reply
Lucky cheat
2020-01-24 13:14
#158
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Brazil lul321
North will somehow lose KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK LMAO
2020-01-24 13:11
Dycha and oskar smurfing
2020-01-24 13:11
MSL issa god😎
2020-01-24 13:13
Pls kjaerbye dont get 19 kills.
2020-01-24 13:15
1 reply
nice bet lol
2020-01-24 13:19
#163
JW | 
Sweden w0nfig1
Overrated faven, onliner
2020-01-24 13:15
Dycha carry dead scene team kkkk
2020-01-24 13:15
1 reply
#165
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Brazil KingDavi
+100
2020-01-24 13:17
Spiidi and Denis...
2020-01-24 13:17
They choose d2 and they cant play lol
2020-01-24 13:18
8 3 9 6
2020-01-24 13:18
3-4 -> 3-12 easy danes q:)
2020-01-24 13:18
MSL just knows how kjaerbye works
2020-01-24 13:18
Pls north close this b01 before Kjaerbye gets 19 kills i beg you
2020-01-24 13:19
9 replies
how much?
2020-01-24 13:21
2 replies
I got 200$ on Kjaerbye under 18,5 kills @1.95
2020-01-24 13:27
1 reply
interesting prop bet
2020-01-24 13:34
Dont cry kid
2020-01-24 13:24
5 replies
How about wishing me luck instead?
2020-01-24 13:31
4 replies
Just dont cry, gl
2020-01-24 13:33
3 replies
Thanks...
2020-01-24 13:42
2 replies
You won
2020-01-24 13:48
1 reply
I know. Thanks for believing!
2020-01-24 13:50
#176
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Europe H1P_STER
Tier 1 teams save oskar pls
2020-01-24 13:19
what the hell is that ringing noise on the stream here at the techinical pause, annoying
2020-01-24 13:20
aizy killed denis with sg556 (headshot) MSL planted the bomb (4on2) denis killed cajunb with awp MSL killed oskar with awp MSL + aizy (assist) killed dycha with awp MSL killed Spiidi with awp Round started MSL is back
2020-01-24 13:23
haha good old MSL is back casually outawping the entire sprout team JUST LIKE THAT
2020-01-24 13:23
3 SHORT 0 KILL hahaha
2020-01-24 13:23
#182
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Brazil KingDavi
Msl pog
2020-01-24 13:24
Msl god
2020-01-24 13:24
pimp casting, does dreamhack not want people to watch their event?
2020-01-24 13:26
lose to cajumb)
2020-01-24 13:28
Sprout bettors LMFAOOOOO
2020-01-24 13:28
#189
JW | 
Sweden w0nfig1
God spiidi
2020-01-24 13:29
kids thinking sprout can win with dycha lol. all these fixed match team like sprout or dycha from whatever polish matchfixer team hes from dont deserve any LAN spots they can just keep playing LOOTBETS or any LOOTBET sponsored online tournament
2020-01-24 13:30
3 replies
they will comeback, msl awp on ct side LUL
2020-01-24 13:34
2 replies
you were saying?
2020-01-24 13:46
1 reply
shame on sprout 🤮
2020-01-24 14:16
spiidi BOT
2020-01-24 13:30
#194
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Russia 4eKaBo
Sprout aim lvl noobs
2020-01-24 13:30
Old players still trash lol faven denis spidi
2020-01-24 13:30
1 reply
#206
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Czech Republic PaYaB
faven is 19 lol
2020-01-24 13:33
#202
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Czech Republic PaYaB
why is spiidi still in tier3/tier4 scene, he is awful he should not be allowed to play pro like this
2020-01-24 13:32
2 replies
sprout is owned by mafia bettors, thats why
2020-01-24 13:33
1 reply
#212
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Czech Republic PaYaB
i see i hope that oskar will play well and get himself a spot in top15 team
2020-01-24 13:34
spiidi back to his own form? :D faven did ok, he was just unluko while crossing...
2020-01-24 13:32
Faven unreal blind idiot lol pls kick pls İt cant be real wtf
2020-01-24 13:32
#209
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Russia 4eKaBo
Lose my over((( Sprout fckn bots . Aim lvl 0
2020-01-24 13:33
Lol sprout online team
2020-01-24 13:35
Spiidi 0 $2800 2 2 12 43.4 GODskar v 9
2020-01-24 13:36
#217
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Russia 4eKaBo
Denis ti dayn ebanii????????? Kyda ti syka lezew???????
2020-01-24 13:37
3 replies
ebalu offnul
2020-01-24 13:38
2 replies
#226
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Russia 4eKaBo
Idi naxyi
2020-01-24 13:41
1 reply
musor
2020-01-24 13:44
Spiidii is trash
2020-01-24 13:37
North is back, GOD MSL xD
2020-01-24 13:39
MSL doing great work. North will go up only from here on
2020-01-24 13:39
3 replies
They will get raped by any team with brain.
2020-01-24 13:41
2 replies
+1 as usual xd
2020-01-24 13:42
Well, okay. My argument was weak lol considering this is only vs sprout XD
2020-01-24 13:42
Look at gade when he's not forced to igl
2020-01-24 13:39
#223
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Germany ConAction
yeah of course every single crucial round for north hahaha
2020-01-24 13:40
time for denis and spidii to leave, no hate they just had so many chances xD
2020-01-24 13:40
6 replies
#230
JW | 
Sweden w0nfig1
faven sucks aswell. -spiidi -denis -faven +calyx +davidp +any1
2020-01-24 13:42
4 replies
calyx is already under contract davidp is awful wtf -spiidi -denis +rallen +krystal igl
2020-01-24 13:45
Your mom sucks me...
2020-01-24 13:57
2 replies
#266
JW | 
Sweden w0nfig1
cya in 10
2020-01-24 14:06
1 reply
Waht your penis
2020-01-25 13:14
#270
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Sweden Trkmag
+1
2020-01-24 14:10
1 reply
gz but try posting some loses 2
2020-01-24 13:44
#89 Thanks for money Spr♿️ut bettors lol Imagine betting on Spr♿️ut on LAN lul
2020-01-24 13:43
I fucking love you Kjaerbye!
2020-01-24 13:44
#237
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Europe OG|Sumail
Spr♿ut omg. Wasted spot. Can only win 322 fixed online matches on lootbet etc.
2020-01-24 13:45
spiidi & denis not hitting any shots like we know them
2020-01-24 13:45
that was solid from north, damn
2020-01-24 13:46
Woooow spiidi is such a BOT
2020-01-24 13:47
Btw this team won 2-0 Best Germany team aka big AND fluke Havu Ok.
2020-01-24 13:47
1 reply
cause spiidi was today a bot
2020-01-24 13:49
#249
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CIS Cresscent
-spiidi when?
2020-01-24 13:48
4 round on dust hahahahaha
2020-01-24 13:53
everything MSL touch becomes gold, even making north look good. Imagine if faze spent $100k on him instead of $500k coldzera.
2020-01-24 14:00
#265
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Europe wutwute
<3 <3 <3
2020-01-24 14:03
3 german BOTS and another polish one are way too much dead weight for oskar oskar was overrated by some people at some point but he should belong to at least TIER 3 CS, NOT TIER 5 CS
2020-01-24 14:09
8 replies
#271
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK
fan of misfits btw lmfao
2020-01-24 14:14
7 replies
They tried to sign ZywOo at some point hey :) seangares 300IQ obviously
2020-01-24 14:15
6 replies
#275
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK
germans tried to conquer the world at some point hey :) ubermanchen 300 IQ obviously
2020-01-24 14:17
5 replies
Don't compare a world war to a team (and HellRaisers also tried, they knew ZywOo was gonna be a GOD like s1mple was) that had the intelligence and the audacity trying to get a superstar before he became one and became completely out of their price.
2020-01-24 14:19
4 replies
#279
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK
ez
2020-01-24 14:29
3 replies
#284
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Denmark ghostan11
Still mad that dycha is bot i see
2020-01-24 16:49
2 replies
#287
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK
ence fan btw ahahhaahhaha didnt laugh so hard since aleksi was kicked
2020-01-24 17:40
1 reply
#288
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Denmark ghostan11
dont worry i laughed more after seeing sprout roster with dycha
2020-01-24 18:22
#269
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Sweden Trkmag
as expected oskar and dycha 2v8 And yes FaZe should have taken MSL and not broky
2020-01-24 14:09
9 replies
#272
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United States stotte
MSL would have never worked with FaZe. MSL is a micromanaging IGL and the super star players of FaZe won't do with that long term. Not only does micro managing such skill hinder them, they'll get sick of it when it doesn't work. And MSL is not more of a stand up guy than karrigan. FalleN would work with FaZe imo
2020-01-24 14:15
6 replies
#276
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Sweden Trkmag
Why wouldn't micromanaging work with more skilled players?
2020-01-24 14:18
5 replies
#278
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United States stotte
Because such ridiculously skilled players have the skill to capitalize on their intuitive plays. But MSL is a perfectionist, he would have NiKo holding angles for 1 min 15 seconds before an execute, whereas karrigan would give them baseline direction and let NiKo walk out popdog on Train if he so desired. I'll bet the next question is "Then why can't any player be an IGL if all it takes is hair brained tactics?" Because when the shit stops working, you need to temporarily default to a more strict and structured style. I dont think MSL has ever done that, and that was the problem with FNS on C9 as well. FNS and MSL have only ever played with less experienced players and/or players who like being micromanaged despite their good experience, so I dont think they really know how to call a loose style (I could be wrong. Just baseless assertion). And when it comes to random players IGLing, all of them have good initial honeymoon periods but they don't know how to cope with it when shit stops working because they're not real ingame leaders. That's why FalleN would make a sick IGL for FaZe. Not only is FalleN a REAL awper, FalleN has called both a loose AND tactical style to astounding success. From 2014-2016, FalleN was known as a super tactical mind in CS. From 2017 onward, he managed to be able to seamlessly transition from tactical style to loose style with SK.
2020-01-24 14:23
4 replies
#286
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Sweden Trkmag
But why can't you have a normal structured style with intuitive plays mixed in? Not talking only about MSL in FaZe, I'm just saying that it's not black and white with ''structured'' and ''loose'' CS. I don't really buy the narrative that superstars have big egos or that they can't work under structured systems. I think it's an oversimplification of the situation. With that said, it's possible that MSL wouldn't have worked in FaZe either way.
2020-01-24 17:30
3 replies
#290
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United States stotte
Superstars do have big egos but not every superstar can't work under a structured system. Some can: dev1ce for example. I just don't think NiKo can. And while Stewie2k was no superstar, he was a star in Cloud9 and his ego about being an ingame leader prevented players like FNS from getting into the team sooner EDIT: It depends on how you define a "normal structured style with intuitive plays mixed in." Karrigan played a loose style with FaZe but his style was exactly as you described. Same for FalleN. There was clearly an end goal and it wasn't so loose that they didn't know what they were doing and were just pugging it out. Yet karrigan did not work out. First, if NiKo did not respect karrigaN, why would he respect MSL? Second, has MSL ever done anything other than an uber tactical style and could he adapt? I think he could but it would have to be on his own time, and I dont think someone like NiKo would give him the proper time.
2020-01-24 21:24
2 replies
#291
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Sweden Trkmag
I don't see why NiKo couldn't do that, it's more that he hasn't played with many real IGLs. He played under gob b and afaik that worked okay.
2020-01-24 21:24
1 reply
#292
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United States stotte
NiKo is not the same personality that he was so far back then. It'd be like saying cold could do with a micromanaging IGL that hasn't won as many majors as him. 2016 coldzera was a superstar who could play under a super tactical system, but I dont think cold would be led by a player he doesn't respect for the amount of time it takes for said leader to smooth out the rough edges in today's time.
2020-01-24 21:27
13 kills -> god and carry with oskar 11 kills -> shit noob okkkk
2020-01-24 16:26
1 reply
#285
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Sweden Trkmag
faven isn't as bad as denis and spiidi but still pretty bad, dycha gets a pass since we know he is good
2020-01-24 17:23
spidiii shitting the bed on lan as always,lmao
2020-01-24 19:30
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