17:00
4th of October 2020
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 5 * Grand final ** Natus Vincere will have a 1-0 map advantage due to coming from the upper bracket
1. Natus Vincere removed Vertigo
2. Astralis removed Mirage
3. Natus Vincere picked Dust2
4. Astralis picked Nuke
5. Natus Vincere picked Train
6. Astralis picked Overpass
7. Inferno was left over
Default
Natus Vincere
1
Astralis
0
Dust2
Natus Vincere
16
(9:6; 7:6)
Astralis
12
Nuke
Natus Vincere
14
(9:6; 5:10)
Astralis
16
Train
Natus Vincere
19
(2:13; 13:2) (4:7)
Astralis
22
Overpass
Natus Vincere
11
(4:11; 7:5)
Astralis
16
Rewatch
United KingdomESL TV (Map 1 - Dust 2)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 2 - Nuke)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 3 - Train)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 4 - Overpass)Vod
Highlights
M1 | s1mple - 3 P250 kills (2 HS) on the Long offensive (pistol round)
M1 | dupreeh - 3 AWP kills on the bombsite B defense (finishing frags)
M1 | device - 3 M4A4 kills on the Long defense
M1 | electronic - 3 quick M4A4 kills on the bombsite A defense to secure the map victory for Natus VIncere
M2 | dupreeh -4 kills (Glock, 3 P2000 HS) on the bombsite B offensive (pistol round) - Part 1 - 1/4 frags
M2 | dupreeh -4 kills (Glock, 3 P2000 HS) on the bombsite B offensive (pistol round) - Part 2 - 3/4 frags - including REPLAY
M2 | dupreeh - 3 AK kills (2 HS) on the bombsite B offensive (2vs3 situation)
M2 | flamie - 3 AK HS kills on the bombsite B defense (2vs3 situation)
M2 | device - 1vs2 clutch (CT - pre-plant situation) to secure the map victory for Astralis
M3 | dupreeh - quick 1vs2 clutch (CT - post-plant situation)
M3 | gla1ve - 3 M4A4 kills on the Ivy defense (2vs3 situation)
M3 | es3tag - 1vs2 clutch (CT - bomb planted after 1 clutch kill)
M3 OT | device (T) uses an enemy smoke to his advantage to get 2 quick TEC9 kills on the bombsite B bomb plant defense (2vs3 situation) and secure the round win for Astralis
M3 OT | s1mple - 3 kills (2 AWP, TEC9) on the bombsite A offensive to set Natus Vincere on tournament point
M4 | device (T) cleans out the rotating force with 4 kills (3 MAC10 HS, CZ75A)
M4 | Magisk - 4 AK kills (2 HS) on the bombsite B offensive (from an initial 3vs5 situation - including 1vs1 post-plant clutch)
M4 | device - 1vs2 TEC9 clutch (T - post-plant situation)
M4 | electronic - 1vs2 clutch (CT - post-plant situation)
M4 | s1mple's 1vs3 clutch attempt is denied by the final CT (es3tag) in the post-plant situation to secure the tournament victory for Astralis
Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Russia
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
electronic
96-87 +9 90.7 69.0% 1.19
Ukraine
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
s1mple
100-87 +13 80.5 75.4% 1.15
Russia
Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Boombl4
73-85 -12 70.9 69.8% 0.93
Russia
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
flamie
77-88 -11 70.5 62.7% 0.92
Russia
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Perfecto
68-81 -13 59.7 69.0% 0.88
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
device
91-73 +18 70.0 73.0% 1.13
Denmark
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
dupreeh
83-86 -3 76.8 75.4% 1.11
Denmark
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Magisk
94-90 +4 80.7 71.4% 1.11
Denmark
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
es3tag
82-81 +1 67.5 70.6% 1.03
Denmark
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
gla1ve
77-84 -7 69.0 64.3% 0.92
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Russia
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
electronic
24-14 +10 103.4 71.4% 1.38
Ukraine
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
s1mple
22-17 +5 84.4 75.0% 1.29
Russia
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Perfecto
13-15 -2 47.6 75.0% 0.88
Russia
Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Boombl4
12-15 -3 56.1 71.4% 0.84
Russia
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
flamie
15-18 -3 58.6 57.1% 0.80
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
dupreeh
21-16 +5 75.5 71.4% 1.15
Denmark
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
device
17-16 +1 64.9 67.9% 0.99
Denmark
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Magisk
17-19 -2 65.0 71.4% 0.94
Denmark
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
gla1ve
14-17 -3 61.4 57.1% 0.86
Denmark
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
es3tag
10-18 -8 46.2 64.3% 0.75
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Russia
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
electronic
18-23 -5 82.4 73.3% 1.03
Russia
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Perfecto
19-18 +1 67.9 70.0% 1.02
Russia
Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Boombl4
21-21 0 70.6 70.0% 1.00
Ukraine
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
s1mple
20-20 0 76.5 73.3% 0.98
Russia
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
flamie
20-22 -2 72.9 70.0% 0.97
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
gla1ve
23-19 +4 87.0 73.3% 1.21
Denmark
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
device
20-16 +4 60.8 83.3% 1.14
Denmark
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
dupreeh
25-22 +3 82.1 70.0% 1.10
Denmark
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Magisk
18-20 -2 75.7 76.7% 1.05
Denmark
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
es3tag
17-21 -4 67.6 73.3% 1.01
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Ukraine
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
s1mple
39-30 +9 94.7 80.5% 1.38
Russia
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
electronic
30-28 +2 82.0 63.4% 1.14
Russia
Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Boombl4
26-28 -2 77.3 73.2% 0.98
Russia
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
flamie
25-26 -1 69.1 65.9% 0.97
Russia
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Perfecto
21-30 -9 61.5 68.3% 0.79
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
es3tag
40-24 +16 78.2 70.7% 1.32
Denmark
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Magisk
32-31 +1 85.6 70.7% 1.12
Denmark
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
dupreeh
20-30 -10 71.6 73.2% 1.01
Denmark
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
device
26-27 -1 66.0 73.2% 0.99
Denmark
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
gla1ve
24-29 -5 65.2 61.0% 0.81
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Russia
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
electronic
24-22 +2 100.0 70.4% 1.27
Russia
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
flamie
17-22 -5 82.2 55.6% 0.92
Russia
Kirill 'Boombl4' Mikhailov
Boombl4
14-21 -7 77.0 63.0% 0.90
Ukraine
Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev
s1mple
19-20 -1 59.5 70.4% 0.90
Russia
Ilya 'Perfecto' Zalutskiy
Perfecto
15-18 -3 60.3 63.0% 0.88
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
Denmark
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
device
28-14 +14 91.7 66.7% 1.50
Denmark
Emil 'Magisk' Reif
Magisk
27-20 +7 95.2 66.7% 1.37
Denmark
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
dupreeh
17-18 -1 80.4 88.9% 1.29
Denmark
Patrick 'es3tag' Hansen
es3tag
15-18 -3 73.5 74.1% 0.99
Denmark
Lukas 'gla1ve' Rossander
gla1ve
16-19 -3 62.7 66.7% 0.85
Head to head
15
Wins
3
Overtimes
17
Wins
5/4 20 ESL Pro League Season 11 Europe
trn
Train
16 - 8
5/4 20 ESL Pro League Season 11 Europe
d2
Dust2
16 - 10
5/4 20 ESL Pro League Season 11 Europe
inf
Inferno
5 - 16
29/2 20 IEM Katowice 2020
nuke
Nuke
16 - 5
29/2 20 IEM Katowice 2020
d2
Dust2
16 - 5
8/2 20 BLAST Premier Spring Series 2020
inf
Inferno
16 - 14
8/2 20 BLAST Premier Spring Series 2020
nuke
Nuke
16 - 9
8/2 20 BLAST Premier Spring Series 2020
trn
Train
6 - 16
2/11 19 BLAST Pro Series Copenhagen 2019
nuke
Nuke
15 - 15
11/5 19 BLAST Pro Series Madrid 2019
d2
Dust2
13 - 16
Show all head to heads
BIG 2-1 FAZE
2020-08-26 16:27
BIG will out in groups.
2020-08-26 16:28
Agreed
2020-08-26 16:28
Ez4broky FaZe 2-0 big
2020-08-29 15:45
#52
RUSH | 
United States ShawnM
You wish Ez col dub
2020-09-01 17:04
navi low iq, i left my time
2020-10-04 21:47
#70
 | 
United States E_40
EZ4Renegades INS MVP!!
2020-09-07 13:41
#2010
 | 
Denmark HAKA1
Too ez for ASTRALIS
2020-10-04 22:41
They are not out.
2020-09-19 20:09
They are now
2020-10-03 00:17
bo5 lol read before u comment xd
2020-08-26 16:38
it didn't say bo5 when i commented xd
2020-08-26 16:48
#44
 | 
India nitinS
Don't be sad, BIG will come from upper bracket so scoreline will become 3-1(2-1+1-0)
2020-08-31 11:37
#195
 | 
Czech Republic MatyVlaky
This aged well.
2020-10-03 09:48
#587
 | 
Czech Republic Hopkins74
XD
2020-10-04 13:36
+1
2020-10-05 02:19
he means they both will not even reach here understand feelings mens))
2020-10-04 08:56
#19
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
+1 faze will disband out of shame before the 4th map
2020-08-26 16:49
#60
 | 
Other syrso
BIG 3 : 2 G2
2020-09-04 13:39
LOL EZ Na'Vi
2020-10-02 23:12
Indeed very ez lol, 3-1 to be fair
2020-10-04 22:57
LULW
2020-10-02 23:13
#158
 | 
Serbia LtN))
F for Big
2020-10-02 23:17
sure
2020-10-04 15:07
FaZe Era
2020-08-26 16:28
#5
 | 
United States Apophis29
Astralis new roster with the first tournament win
2020-08-26 16:29
+1
2020-10-04 10:29
-1
2020-10-04 16:06
tell this to navi
2020-10-04 18:12
#2042
 | 
Lithuania aikaz45
i think they know lol
2020-10-04 22:44
good one
2020-10-04 23:03
g2-astralis
2020-08-26 16:32
#87
 | 
Europe KnezOwy
u mean g2-3astralis?
2020-09-16 21:53
Spirit vs Navi in my dreams
2020-08-26 16:33
#10
 | 
United States Apophis29
never gonna happen :p
2020-08-26 16:35
Hey you got the Na'Vi part
2020-10-03 00:18
Its not hard to guess like that tbh
2020-10-03 01:57
Indeed. THere were a ton of great teams
2020-10-03 15:17
navi is here so half of your dream came true!
2020-10-03 17:14
** Upper bracket winner will have a 1-0 map advantage
2020-08-26 16:34
#14
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
you know i never understood why that was done cause that's just an unfair advantage
2020-08-26 16:36
How double elimination normally works is that the upper bracket winner has to be beaten twice by the lower bracket winner. But you kinda can't have that in CS because of scheduling and stuff, so there's a map advantage instead
2020-08-26 16:43
i dont get it the way u explain it is just a best of 3 with the map winner with a winners advantage
2020-09-28 00:09
The team from upper bracket practically doesn’t lose a singe match, while the lower bracket team lost once, probably cuz of this
2020-10-01 11:03
Cause the upper bracket winner goes through the best teams that just stayed in upper bracket and didnt lose any game so if they win the best team in upper bracket so its fair cause they didnt lose any game
2020-10-04 01:52
I'd say, if the team from the lower brackets wins both teams that play the final have lost 1 game so is basically unfair for the team that came from the upper brackets as they havent got anything from playing against the best teams
2020-10-04 16:07
i dunno give them peek more maps and choose sites on more maps or anything in this area, but giving 1 map advantage is huge imo
2020-10-04 21:26
apparently not huge enough. Sad Navi
2020-10-05 16:59
#9
 | 
Portugal Agricultor
EZ4Faze
2020-08-26 16:35
#12
 | 
Sweden bonisMEN
fnatic to bounce back mens ))
2020-08-26 16:35
#225
 | 
Serbia LtN))
krieg isnt buffed :/
2020-10-03 18:46
why map advantage?? WTF fucking esl
2020-08-26 16:36
+1
2020-08-31 16:46
bruh its a reward so upper bracket finalist have a reward for not losing
2020-10-04 13:52
What's the point of advancing through the upper bracket if you dont get an advantage then?
2020-09-05 19:01
#95
 | 
Denmark dyinbyran
I cant believe its 2020 and some retar** still don't understand double elimination advantage lol
2020-09-19 16:40
1-0 advantage is too much imo. the upper bracket winner should get map pick/chose start side advantage. with that in mind the team from the lower bracket could still prepare, would still make up for good games.
2020-09-19 19:03
why? in playoff phase u have at least +1 in map difference against your opponents (or teams which have beaten them) if you come from upper
2020-09-23 09:15
astralis 3 - 1 g2
2020-08-26 16:38
#20
OK | 
Peru Rhenie
What an interesting match... the 1-0 advantage will make it really close..
2020-08-26 16:51
OG - Spirit 1-3
2020-08-26 17:03
#22
 | 
Serbia LtN))
in NaVi we trust
2020-08-27 11:58
+1 #NAVINATION #NAVIDAVI
2020-08-31 02:57
0/8
2020-10-04 10:29
+1
2020-08-31 16:46
#156
 | 
Serbia LtN))
Never stop believing Let's GO
2020-10-02 23:16
u mean OGarbage?
2020-10-04 00:01
#507
 | 
Serbia LtN))
? content
2020-10-04 10:17
If Navi shows up to their potential then navi would be in finals. Else I think Ast vs G2.
2020-08-27 12:00
You are correct my friend
2020-10-03 18:34
I will always believe in Navi
2020-08-27 16:12
#157
 | 
Serbia LtN))
2020-10-02 23:16
Navi 3-1 VS g2
2020-08-28 00:50
#26
 | 
Russia Rightoo
ASTRALIS WIN EZ ESL Pro League Season 12 Europe ESL One Cologne 2020 Europe
2020-08-28 11:08
nt
2020-08-28 21:25
#30
 | 
Europe legal2333
nt
2020-08-28 21:29
Nt
2020-10-04 05:51
nt
2020-10-04 08:54
Lmao, now I feel for these idiots writing "nt" XD
2020-10-05 05:48
#28
 | 
Other xtroDe
ez4nip
2020-08-28 21:27
#29
 | 
Denmark pdxm
Astralis vs NIP final, bookmark this
2020-08-28 21:28
So yeah
2020-10-04 11:17
So yeah
2020-10-04 12:44
So yeah
2020-10-04 16:20
#31
 | 
Europe legal2333
FaZe vs Na ' Vi Faze 3-1
2020-08-28 21:29
#77
 | 
Germany Hakantngr
we saw faze. OMAGALUL
2020-09-13 20:42
yes faze played like they won the major AMAZING PERFORMANCE it was soo good that they are looking to disband since that much power can not be harnessed in 1 team
2020-10-04 08:55
ago vs sprout
2020-08-29 14:30
Nub
2020-10-04 12:45
ez for NaVi and goat s1mple
2020-08-29 15:39
+1
2020-09-02 06:33
+1
2020-09-04 13:37
+1 no doubts
2020-09-19 20:13
+1 Ez for NAVI
2020-10-02 22:07
#155
 | 
Serbia LtN))
+1 no doubts
2020-10-02 23:15
+1
2020-10-03 18:55
+1
2020-10-03 18:56
+1
2020-10-03 19:20
+1
2020-10-04 00:10
+1
2020-10-04 05:02
+1
2020-10-04 05:52
-1
2020-10-04 10:30
#2132
 | 
Denmark z1kkxd
+1
2020-10-04 23:30
Vitality vs heroic
2020-08-29 15:43
+1
2020-10-02 23:15
Lmao walloon predicting
2020-10-03 18:35
G2 vs BIG
2020-08-29 15:45
ez4bymas
2020-08-29 15:49
probably gunna be G2 vs Someone and G2 will lose
2020-08-29 16:07
#39
 | 
Turkey TheKaiser
EZ4<TBD>
2020-08-29 16:12
Ez for?
2020-08-30 18:45
#838
 | 
Germany Rip_snax_
You are predict master🧐
2020-10-04 17:27
ez for navi
2020-10-04 18:28
Please delete account and create predict_noob
2020-10-05 16:14
#41
ZywOo | 
United States D3NNS
Vitality wins again
2020-08-30 22:59
Ez4natusimplere
2020-08-30 23:00
Map advantage is such a stupid thing...
2020-08-31 16:47
lol why?
2020-10-02 23:13
A bit unfair I know that the upper bracket winner should have an advantage, but imo it has to be something else. 1 additional victory point is too unbalanced
2020-10-02 23:17
#412
 | 
Denmark MeToxi
The way I see it, its already more difficult to move through lower bracket because of extra matches so that is a punishment in itself.
2020-10-04 03:40
It's double elimination, every team loses twice before being unable to compete for win anymore. It would be unfair if the upper bracket finalist loses 1 match (finals) and is out. Cause all the other teams got 2 chances. You can't schedule two finals to keep it fair tho. So, map advantage it is
2020-10-04 14:16
#2202
 | 
Denmark MeToxi
My personal stance is that the format should be designed to avoid map advantages in the grand final.
2020-10-05 15:11
#48
 | 
Canada dennek
nip vs astralis
2020-09-01 06:35
Ez 4 heroic
2020-09-01 14:25
#50
 | 
Nepal sasukeee
Big vs heroic lol
2020-09-01 14:27
Lets gooo BIG
2020-09-01 14:27
#154
 | 
Serbia LtN))
f
2020-10-02 23:15
kinda sad
2020-10-04 00:25
#53
 | 
Russia _g00s3_
Ok so there is 2 possible ways of future right now for ESL. 1: Boombl4 eats more pizza and singing more songs so NAVI 0-3 BIG 2: S1mple finnaly gets gold nova 3 in matchmaking so NAVI can take single map and 1-3 BIG
2020-09-01 21:57
or big doesnt even make it out of groups
2020-09-14 02:27
xd
2020-10-03 13:55
ez for goat s1mple and Na'Vi
2020-09-02 06:33
#152
 | 
Serbia LtN))
no doubts
2020-10-02 23:14
No doubts +1
2020-10-04 10:31
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-10-04 23:07
#56
 | 
New Zealand rOtten_97
NiP vs Heroic NiP 3-2 The real final we should have gotten in Cologne
2020-09-02 06:41
Feelsbadman
2020-09-19 16:35
#150
 | 
Serbia LtN))
NaVi vs Astralis is best and most real final. No online flukes just two best teams
2020-10-02 23:14
NaVi vs Astralis mark my words
2020-09-03 05:08
#148
 | 
Serbia LtN))
+1
2020-10-02 23:13
Broooo you are most likely right Damn predicting this a month in advance
2020-10-03 18:36
You're fucking Nostradamus D:
2020-10-04 00:12
wtf dude
2020-10-04 01:34
can i hire u for some betting advices :D
2020-10-04 03:02
Ez and now GOATstralis will win the 4th final in a row against navi
2020-10-04 10:32
#58
 | 
Poland ethereal0
AGO3:1Astralis
2020-09-03 11:44
** Upper bracket winner will have a 1-0 map advantage lets hope for BIG-Vitality or BIG-G2 with a french 1-0 advantage and the germans with a strong comeback
2020-09-04 17:04
NIce prediction!
2020-10-03 13:13
Congrats spirit
2020-09-05 19:03
vitality - g2
2020-09-05 19:03
nt
2020-09-19 20:14
ez for NaVi and goat s1mpel
2020-09-06 03:15
#226
 | 
Serbia LtN))
+1 0 doubts
2020-10-03 18:48
godsent vs ago
2020-09-06 17:38
yes
2020-10-04 08:53
EZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ FAZE
2020-09-06 17:47
nt
2020-09-09 13:11
AGO vs Astralis
2020-09-06 17:49
#71
 | 
Korea oats94
AGO 3:0 astralis
2020-09-07 19:22
navi - astralis
2020-09-11 10:46
Nice
2020-10-03 18:36
#466
 | 
Estonia ROOK07
wow
2020-10-04 08:47
nice
2020-10-04 12:52
EZ4ENCE
2020-09-13 09:19
EZ4ENCE itd gona be ence vs complexity and ence will win 3-1
2020-09-13 12:02
#76
 | 
United Kingdom zyrexxi
2ez4OG
2020-09-13 13:36
#78
 | 
Russia heha
hard4navi
2020-09-13 21:19
Natus Vincere vs Complexity Complexity through the upper bracket 3-1 for Complexity
2020-09-14 08:27
Lol
2020-10-03 19:20
col vs ence
2020-09-14 20:21
#83
 | 
Moldova trash_star
Navi vs Astralis
2020-09-14 23:33
yessssss 😎😎😎😎😎
2020-10-03 23:43
Spirit vs NAVI
2020-09-16 03:27
Spirit vs Astralis
2020-09-16 17:24
Asttalis vs Heroic
2020-09-16 20:45
#88
 | 
Russia LeGoBoys
Astralis vitality would be perfect
2020-09-17 13:22
Astralis/coL vs Vitality/Na'Vi
2020-09-17 13:25
#90
 | 
Russia evg1804
Astralis should be here. And hope Team Spirit (in my dreams, but probably...)
2020-09-19 12:44
#91
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2
Astralis vs Complexity.
2020-09-19 12:48
Astralis vs NaVi 3-1
2020-09-19 16:35
nice team prediction but not the score
2020-10-04 13:57
#94
 | 
Finland KassaK
EZ4ENCE DENS PUTTED UPPERBELT
2020-09-19 16:38
ENCE vs Natus Vincare
2020-09-19 19:13
sry ence vs heroic
2020-09-19 21:07
Astralis vs Na'vi 32 - 6 #ToTheStars
2020-09-19 19:24
KEKW
2020-10-03 13:20
Col will win this event 3-1.
2020-09-19 20:25
#103
 | 
Germany BIG2020
BIG 3-2 Navi
2020-09-19 21:03
FINALS WITH MAP ADVANTAGE ARE SO BAD ESL PLEASE
2020-09-19 21:24
#171
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Ukraine leg0_0leg
why? upper bracket winner plays only vs winners, since lower bracket winner plays only vs losers.
2020-10-03 01:52
Because most of the time the final is boring this way
2020-10-03 01:54
#414
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Denmark MeToxi
If the final has a team who deserves map advantage, the format is bad.
2020-10-04 03:45
#751
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India slayr121
Mate, same format is used in dota 2 tournaments as well and they have bo5 grand finals all the time but there's never map advantage for upper bracket finalists. Map advantage sucks tbh but anyways Astralis got this.
2020-10-04 16:49
oh really? How about dota2 - TI1? I already explained that - Navi played only against teams which WON their pairs in UPPER BRACKET, while Astralis played ONLY against teams which LOST their matches in UPPER BRACKET. It means that Navi's way was much more difficult since Navi played against teams which won against all the Astralis opponents.
2020-10-04 19:40
#1559
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India slayr121
They did that mistake 9 years ago and rectified in latter edition. 0/8
2020-10-04 20:53
#106
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Argentina Aleeee
what a shitty format, going to the finals with one map advantage???
2020-09-19 22:00
#107
 | 
Japan klim1256
Navi astrali
2020-09-19 23:51
#109
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Turkey Teecanbre
Astralis 3-1 BIG
2020-09-22 15:16
complexity vs Navi 1st Navi 2nd complexity 3rd astralis 4th Team spirit
2020-09-23 01:52
HAHA NT, CoL wont even be in top 6 or top 8
2020-09-23 05:50
#134
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United States mickdo
nt
2020-10-02 15:40
Upper Bracket Astralis Lower Bracket BIG BIG wins 3-2 as usual
2020-09-24 15:25
ez for goat s1mple and navi
2020-09-25 14:04
#193
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Serbia LtN))
+1 no doubts
2020-10-03 09:37
<3
2020-10-03 11:29
Col wins
2020-09-26 14:44
hey tournament organizers stop killing the finals with 1-0 advantage :) thanks in advance yours truly, I LOVE DE VERTIGO
2020-09-28 00:05
#119
 | 
Europe t.o.p
Astralis wins
2020-09-28 02:51
Spirit 2-1 Astralis
2020-09-28 08:48
Na'Vi vs Astralis plzzzz
2020-09-29 03:50
Na'Vi 3-2 Ence
2020-09-29 22:48
BIG 3 - 2 NaVi
2020-09-30 09:32
Complexity v Heroic final. not sure who wins
2020-09-30 13:13
Heroic 1-2 Navi
2020-09-30 20:46
#126
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South America ZyvvOo
Heroic 3-1 Navi
2020-10-01 00:49
finally a good prediction
2020-10-02 13:11
#128
 | 
Germany BIG2020
EZ BIG
2020-10-01 16:45
#129
 | 
Serbia LtN))
NaVi 3-1 BIG or Ast
2020-10-01 17:20
#143
 | 
Serbia LtN))
3-0*
2020-10-02 23:11
Navi 3-2 Heroic
2020-10-01 17:23
#131
 | 
Denmark valt3rr
Heroic 3-1 Navi
2020-10-01 20:52
Heoric v Navi
2020-10-02 00:58
i think heroic fluke win against astralis
2020-10-02 22:46
Astralis v navi
2020-10-02 22:45
+1
2020-10-02 22:56
Don't get me wrong but i feel like es3tag is gonna be pain for navi this guy is a real 300iq gla1ve like guy.
2020-10-02 22:57
Astralis Gaming 3 vs NAVI vincere 2
2020-10-02 22:59
no, u're wrong
2020-10-04 10:47
never wrong : - )
2020-10-05 00:03
Damn,nice predict bro=)
2020-10-05 09:14
Wow, u're really not wrong, but NAVI could win at Nuke, but they did a mistake at last round
2020-10-05 10:32
#141
 | 
Turkey woohox
Astralis v Na'Vi el Clasico
2020-10-02 23:08
#142
 | 
Serbia LtN))
LET'S GO NAVI VS ASTRALIS finally good final w/o some online flukes.
2020-10-02 23:11
+1
2020-10-03 21:51
NaVi Heroic again
2020-10-02 23:12
quick 3:0
2020-10-02 23:14
#179
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Sweden swedz4
+1
2020-10-03 03:02
Hope it's gonna be Astralis
2020-10-02 23:14
+1
2020-10-02 23:34
NAVI 2-0 > 2-3 Heroic wins
2020-10-02 23:25
#199
 | 
Serbia LtN))
navi are not chokers
2020-10-03 12:04
Let's just hope for EL Classico. It surely will end with stunning 3:0 for NaVi, but why not.
2020-10-02 23:27
astralis 3;1 navi
2020-10-02 23:32
#178
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Sweden swedz4
-1
2020-10-03 03:02
#164
 | 
Croatia Netkov
NaVi got this.
2020-10-02 23:43
+1 #NAVINATION #NAVIDAVI
2020-10-03 19:15
#165
 | 
Russia ToughGuy
There's no way NaVi choke this final with 8 series win streak
2020-10-02 23:57
ok
2020-10-03 03:11
agreed bro
2020-10-03 19:14
#367
 | 
Pakistan LoOuU2
Well , you gotta lose and end that streak sometime..
2020-10-04 00:28
#166
 | 
Russia Bogzz1k
NaVi - Astralis 3-2
2020-10-03 00:07
#177
 | 
Sweden swedz4
+1
2020-10-03 03:01
#169
 | 
Kazakhstan y2o99
easy for Natus Vincere
2020-10-03 00:22
Hoping for Na'Vi vs Astralis 3-1 or 3-0 for Na'Vi
2020-10-03 01:00
ez4liquid
2020-10-03 02:20
astralis 3-2 NaVi Nuke - astralis Train - NaVi Inferno - astralis Overpass - astralis thanks me later
2020-10-03 02:23
Heroic 3-2
2020-10-03 03:50
chel tvoi prognozi takaya huinya ti visiraesh chet vsegda chto ebat kakoi analitik no po factu ti stavish vsemi chitaemii defol. chto ya tebe skaju. opusti svoe ego i ne visirai huinyu syda
2020-10-03 06:14
tebe ne pohui?
2020-10-03 06:57
da ti smeshnoi
2020-10-03 14:03
Predic op9t na teje grabli, zaho4esh win pishi
2020-10-03 14:36
'god bettor' ksta 4sv zashkalivaet
2020-10-04 10:11
#176
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Sweden swedz4
Navi probably win 3-1
2020-10-03 03:01
navi on FIRE
2020-10-03 03:10
Mousesports will take that. idk how, but they will get trophy
2020-10-03 05:22
#256
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Serbia LtN))
f
2020-10-03 21:12
#185
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India S2H
2 ez for Navi and with that advantage they will win for sure.
2020-10-03 05:49
Natus Vincere vs Mouz plz
2020-10-03 06:06
#254
 | 
Serbia LtN))
f
2020-10-03 21:12
#189
 | 
Europe H1P_STER
EZ 4 ASTRALIS
2020-10-03 07:06
Navi Astralis 2-3
2020-10-03 08:37
Actually the 1st playoff match between NAVI & Mouz was titled as 'NAVI Vs Astralis' in the description on YT stream. See that was actually the spoiler alert for the grand final XD. At least lets hope so. Ezz.
2020-10-03 08:47
dont watch matches on YT it has more delay than twitch around 1min delay and both streams are same so it dosent matter if you saw on YT or twitch :)
2020-10-04 08:52
dude I know the YT delay thing. Its just that the 'wrong' description of that match turned out to be the grand final spoiler XD
2020-10-04 13:02
Ik xD
2020-10-04 14:54
#192
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Russia _g00s3_
Navi 2 - 3 Mouz
2020-10-03 09:10
gl kekw
2020-10-03 10:05
Calling Navi 3-1 Astralis rn.
2020-10-03 09:46
+1 #NAVINATION #NAVIDAVI
2020-10-04 16:51
#198
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Ukraine EmErAJID
Finally new trophy for NaVi.
2020-10-03 11:34
+1 Another big win of NaVi Era
2020-10-03 21:51
+1
2020-10-04 00:30
#200
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Russia fawzbw
#GONAVI
2020-10-03 12:30
3-0 heroic
2020-10-03 12:42
I'm 69.420% sure it will be Mouz vs NaVi, and NaVi win 3-0/ 3-1 maybe
2020-10-03 13:15
Nice percentage you got there :D
2020-10-03 13:23
Men it's just a coincidence! I calculated the probability with hard maths and that's the result I got!
2020-10-03 13:25
No chance, your hard maths probability is wrong already. Mous will lose today.
2020-10-03 13:27
NaVi 3-1 mouz
2020-10-03 13:43
Astralis win 3-2
2020-10-03 13:51
#211
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CIS Lepofo
Navi 3-0
2020-10-03 13:58
navi 3 1 / 3 2 mousesports nt guys
2020-10-03 14:10
#239
ZywOo | 
Ukraine Djaa
Mousesports win navi 3:2. Next time maybe)
2020-10-03 19:57
nt xD
2020-10-03 21:30
no way in hell electronic is putting up a performance like he did vs heroic again.
2020-10-03 14:33
S1mple will do and easy 3-0/ 3-1 for NaVi
2020-10-03 19:22
he is back he gave us 10x more than what we wanted from him i see the flashbacks of blast spring inferno pit getting 3k with sg standing on molly
2020-10-04 08:51
#216
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Turkey duxs1
NaVi probably drops a map but still wins it
2020-10-03 14:37
navi 3 - 1 astralis
2020-10-03 14:45
heroic 3 - 2 navi
2020-10-03 17:38
dreaming
2020-10-03 19:04
Heroic 3-1 Botus Vincere 😘
2020-10-03 19:17
#253
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Serbia LtN))
Ne.
2020-10-03 21:11
so ez for NA
2020-10-03 19:31
NA CS is a joke
2020-10-03 19:55
i dont care about xsepower fans opinion
2020-10-03 20:03
xsepower> any NA Awper
2020-10-03 20:38
you mean xsebaiter?
2020-10-03 20:50
3-0 navi enjoy
2020-10-03 19:54
#241
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Finland I_Synergy
Navi 3-2 Astralis S1mple > device Electronic > dupreeh Perfecto = magisk Boombl < estag Flamie < gla1ve
2020-10-03 20:12
#245
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Brunei br0ks
"Perfecto = magisk" LOL
2020-10-03 20:51
3 major winner with 1.14 rating = Perfecto ahahahahahah
2020-10-03 20:53
#248
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Brunei br0ks
Top 5 of 2019 = s1mple's gun dropper LMAO
2020-10-03 20:57
3 major winner(2 of them were 2 years ago), nice
2020-10-03 23:47
0 major winner(won't win a major in 10 years) nice
2020-10-05 09:27
probably navi will win next major
2020-10-05 12:02
probably they will choke and not win anything. simple too adhd
2020-10-05 12:06
like astralis
2020-10-05 12:21
after seeing magisk dropping his performance on the last 2 series its gonna be a tough one for him if perfecto goes full on his site anchoring
2020-10-04 08:50
Boombl<estag Perfecto = Magisk flamie<gla1ve Never in my entire life had i laughed so hard. By reading that stupid comment on hltv
2020-10-03 20:52
#249
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Finland I_Synergy
Haha wlcome bro:) if u have enough balls.. Correct me? Ive followed cs like a 6-7 months.. So that is all info i got
2020-10-03 21:02
6-7 months? sry i watched from 2015/6 when olof was still star
2020-10-03 21:03
#252
 | 
Finland I_Synergy
Man.. Exactly.. thats why im sayin correct me!
2020-10-03 21:07
Astralis won 4 Majors Device was MVP for major while boombl was newbie back then s1mple emerged in 2017 as a star player althought some consider 2016 as a beggining.
2020-10-03 21:12
#257
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Finland I_Synergy
Ok thank you man for the info! Who you think gonna win tomorrow in grand final? If theres navi vs astralis?
2020-10-03 21:19
idk bro we ll see
2020-10-03 21:21
But who cares what happened in 2016-17? Game will be tomorrow and in current form. Ofcourse boombl4 is a worm next to device but it doesn't change the fact in current form he can demolish device and whole Astralis team. And can be demolished as well
2020-10-03 23:30
wtf? thing is that you can have 30kills but still loss bro game plan is a thing i always saw navi struggle if it cant close the game before OT.
2020-10-03 23:32
stop it plz Astralis have to put their 100% performance to beat navi tomorrow 1-0 advantege already for navi playing great already on all maps except vertigo which will be banned i dont believe that navi will lose with that map pool: nuke(very good map for them when picked against them. d2:their best map. train:2nd best map. inferno:very decent and can do big damage on it. overpass:their less good map but still they put a good fight always. i hardly believe that navi dont take at least 2 of those maps.
2020-10-04 03:11
honestly judging that astralis is kind of robotic team they started their preps 4 or 5h ago, navi were chilling yesterday so everything can happen.
2020-10-04 12:54
Heroic 3-1 ez
2020-10-03 20:49
Heroic - Astralis 2 : 0 Na'Vi - Heroic 2 : 3
2020-10-03 21:07
#260
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Serbia hitomi79
So happy for NAVI considering the malicious comments that Katowice was the fluke.
2020-10-03 21:48
damn navi gonna beat heroic for a 3rd consecutive time in the same tournament lol
2020-10-03 22:03
Astralis sweep 3-1
2020-10-03 22:17
3-0
2020-10-03 22:45
Astralis destroy this 3 noobs
2020-10-03 22:47
#267
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Brazil kLv_
ASTRALIS 3-1 EZ4EZTAG
2020-10-03 22:54
DOG'VI 3-1
2020-10-03 23:09
Quick 3 - 1 for Astralis No chance for s1mple & co.
2020-10-03 23:15
0 iq move
2020-10-03 23:41
nt kid
2020-10-03 23:45
Papatronic, S1majorple, Rekto, Atombl4 & Flaming going to send this Astralis back on a vac with Xyp9x. No hope boys ~
2020-10-03 23:56
+1 Respect for nitro)))
2020-10-04 00:04
"Atombl4" OMFG LOL
2020-10-04 16:41
#815
 | 
Germany snicxx
Nt NA brain = 10iq S0mple, b4dl3, failme, defecto and botronic will lose. Lulquit fan logic hahaha
2020-10-04 17:12
navi have won all 3 series against Astralis this year... matter of fact, last time Astralis beat Navi was in May 2019. i'd be very surprised if Navi were to lose a single series against the danish in 2020...BUT, this time it's online, so you never know.
2020-10-03 23:27
#274
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Denmark xenonxd
EZ4ASTRALIS
2020-10-03 23:42
ASTRALIS NAVI LESSGOOOO
2020-10-03 23:44
+1 It will be a good match can't wait
2020-10-03 23:45
Yes man hopefully it goes to all four maps. Regardless of the winner it'll be fun!
2020-10-04 00:01
#277
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Ukraine vskgthree
EZ4NAVI
2020-10-03 23:44
astralis bans mirage navi bans vertigo astralis picks nuke navi picks dust2 astralis picks inferno navi picks train
2020-10-03 23:45
Are you sure after Astralis played so well on OVP?
2020-10-04 00:01
Astralis will pick nuke ofc,but not sure about inferno electronic and s1mple can carry so hard on this map.
2020-10-04 03:13
perfecto and electronic are the actual site anchors so it depends on them more than s1mple obv if s1mple is present on the site it will be very diff for asrtalis but i see perfecto and elec doing most of the duels on site basis
2020-10-04 08:49
i dont see them picking overpass it gonna be a gamble for astralis navi are shaky on CT sides but they are as good as on their T sides same goes for astralis but in an opposite manner so the match will likely give us a fight on the 2nd half which is really risky when you see navi can pull those several force buys they get
2020-10-04 08:47
+1 but with that being said, regardless of the mappicks, it should a freaking entertaining series :)
2020-10-04 10:31
Hell yeah The finals everyone wanted to see
2020-10-04 12:37
+1 I legit can't wait xd
2020-10-04 12:55
3:1 for Navi!
2020-10-03 23:45
Astralis changed their LU in the hope of putting an end to 1,5 years of losing against the CIS squad...think they might change again if they keep losing
2020-10-03 23:46
#283
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Slovakia veeellys
Simple will be deleted again
2020-10-03 23:46
in ur wet dreams
2020-10-03 23:47
why again xD ? Let me remind you of katowice play offs , bitch please
2020-10-03 23:47
astralis didnt win vs navi in 2020
2020-10-03 23:48
#491
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Slovakia veeellys
Baited all, s1mple on fire 2020 top1
2020-10-04 09:49
ez 4 s1mpel
2020-10-03 23:46
+1
2020-10-03 23:48
admit it, Navi vs Astralis is more interesting than Navi vs Heroic
2020-10-03 23:47
we already seen it , lmao quick 2-0
2020-10-03 23:48
The only map where Astralis is able to win is Nuke imo and that is still a good map for Navi when they have a good CT Side. On the other maps navi should be the favorit. Navi 3:0 or 3:1
2020-10-03 23:48
top 1 against top 1 but come from different bracket
2020-10-03 23:47
#293
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Russia Syonamaru
Classic
2020-10-03 23:48
MIBR GOT THIS!
2020-10-03 23:49
NAVI 2 - 3 ASTRALIS
2020-10-03 23:49
+1
2020-10-04 16:34
basically score is 1-1 already NaVi 1 map advantaage Astralis 1 map advantage (nuke)
2020-10-03 23:49
and 2:1 for navi(train for navi)
2020-10-03 23:52
#311
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Moldova nutel
Last time astralis lost 16-5 to navi on nuke)
2020-10-03 23:55
Navi got this only if elec plays at high level and s1mple delivers.
2020-10-03 23:50
#299
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Denmark pdxm
Just as esl leaked, it is actually the finals
2020-10-03 23:51
+1 lmao
2020-10-04 08:46
Could I get some context? What leak?)
2020-10-04 10:13
#506
 | 
Denmark pdxm
During the game for Navi vs mousesports for playoffs , the title on the YouTube channel was “Navi vs Astralis”
2020-10-04 10:17
Someone will be fired after that:D Tyvm for info
2020-10-04 10:23
#535
 | 
Denmark pdxm
yep Welcome)
2020-10-04 11:00
#300
 | 
Czech Republic cajky01
So ez NaVi
2020-10-03 23:51
idk both in a good shape, but I'll take a wild shot and say navi wins this
2020-10-04 00:01
Nobody cars which shot you will take bro))
2020-10-03 23:53
ok bro
2020-10-04 00:01
Bro u ok bro? Did i hurt your feelings?
2020-10-04 07:17
Yes, I'm ok
2020-10-04 17:25
#302
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Ukraine wat3rduck
banger
2020-10-03 23:52
hard win for astralis
2020-10-03 23:52
Check after game. NAVI 3-1 Astralis. MVP S1mple, EVP electronic. Maps: Train (NAVI), Inferno (NAVI), Mirage (Astralis).
2020-10-03 23:53
Mirage is astralis perma ban idiot
2020-10-04 00:00
Check his flag and flair, what u expect from him lul
2020-10-04 00:05
#306
 | 
Russia AR4ER
gL Na'Vi....3-2
2020-10-03 23:53
#307
 | 
Russia LeGoBoys
Only navi can lose with map advantage and of course they will
2020-10-03 23:53
G2? vitality?lol
2020-10-04 00:01
#343
B1T | 
Ukraine devitt
2020-10-04 00:12
Dayn ti pizda
2020-10-04 04:00
flair checks out
2020-10-04 08:46
Astralis 3-2
2020-10-03 23:54
True
2020-10-03 23:59
Sosi xyi y svoego bati dolbaeb
2020-10-04 00:05
NaVi 3-0. No contest.
2020-10-03 23:54
Nuke says no
2020-10-04 00:01
astralis are verey shaky on nuke and navi are pretty solid at their CT sides so its gonna take a lot from astralis to break elec and s1mple and when they meet flamie on the ramp perfecto is known for solo holds and he does it pretty well
2020-10-04 08:45
#312
 | 
Ukraine W1ldHunt
In NAVI I trust
2020-10-03 23:55
Nice
2020-10-04 00:16
#318
 | 
Brazil Joaopgo2
Astralis big again?
2020-10-04 00:01
nuke (ast) overpass (ast) train (ast) inferno (navi) d2 (50-50) will be fun
2020-10-04 00:06
+1
2020-10-04 00:30
ez for NaVi ` s1mple, he will kill all crewmate (lennyface)
2020-10-04 00:07
ez for godstralis
2020-10-04 00:07
EZ4KINGSTRALIS
2020-10-04 00:07
Train Nuke Dust2 Inferno 3.0 Navi Just wait ..
2020-10-04 00:08
#338
 | 
Denmark e1kzeb
Train - Navi pick Nuke - Astralis pick Inferno - Navi pick Overpass - Astralis pick Dust 2 shall be left as a decider from what we saw against mouse from both teams Anyway 3:0 for NaVi 16-10 train 16-9 nuke
2020-10-04 00:10
8/8
2020-10-04 00:16
overpass or inferno
2020-10-04 00:17
Train under 26.5 for sure
2020-10-04 00:08
S1mple +18.5 kills for sure
2020-10-04 00:08
Navi 3.0 or 3.1
2020-10-04 00:08
Destroying ripstrallis in grand final is very delicious
2020-10-04 00:09
Perfecto will show who is the pick of the year
2020-10-04 00:10
3-1 for navi
2020-10-04 00:10
Who gets the first map pick in a esl bo5 with 1-0 advantage?
2020-10-04 00:10
I dont know whats going on in esl bo5 with 1.0 advantage, but i remember G2 vs big .. g2 picked first
2020-10-04 00:13
also astralis vs g2 astralis picked first. I mean wtf, thats a dumb system
2020-10-04 00:31
Should be Astralis
2020-10-04 00:13
no, at least the last few times the upper bracket team picks first..
2020-10-04 00:32
Navi pcked 1st
2020-10-04 01:46
Big boom will show he is much better than gla1ve in fragging
2020-10-04 00:11
More like big bum
2020-10-04 12:29
Nuke D2 Overpass Train
2020-10-04 00:12
No
2020-10-04 00:14
nuke, d2 and train 100%, and overpass or inferno
2020-10-04 00:16
Bro maybe d2 will be decider from what we sar against mouz today !! But i thi k navi will pick it ..
2020-10-04 00:17
navi will pick train and d2 100%, so if they pick first we wont get d2 on decider
2020-10-04 00:19
overpass will be banned since astralis are a bit shaky vertigo ban since navi dont play it mirage will be the 1-0 adv map d2 infe train nuke
2020-10-04 08:44
#344
 | 
Germany Shackrag
how is this a 5 star match when its rank 8 vs rank 9 from hltv rankings. seems like even hltv doesnt take their rankings seriously since 5 star matches are between two top 3 teams
2020-10-04 00:13
#356
 | 
Russia ToughGuy
cuz tier1 finals always 5 star no matter who playing
2020-10-04 00:18
It's manually set, if you hover mouse over it, it says "HLTV Recommended Match"
2020-10-04 00:28
finally 2 big teams in a final and not stinky big or heroic
2020-10-04 00:13
+1 ElClassico
2020-10-04 00:14
+1 the best final after katowice
2020-10-04 08:43
Katowice was a bit boring cuz G2 was absolutely destroyed
2020-10-04 11:43
Lmao it was LAN navi obv they rekt then what finals do you think was the best in 2020
2020-10-04 12:34
This final can be very interesting (Even online) But I think it will be IEM Global Challenge at the end of 2020
2020-10-04 12:57
Yes ofcourse LANs are always epic Lets hope we see the tier 1 cs back without fluke upset teams like heroic and big Big are great but i feel they req the consistency and it can be harder on lans
2020-10-04 14:56
Bet your house on navi and enjoy
2020-10-04 00:18
Boombl4 & Perfecto never lose to Astralis
2020-10-04 00:18
#418
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Russia LeGoBoys
Everything happens for the first time
2020-10-04 04:00
So ez for Best team astralis
2020-10-04 00:20
NaVi ur time to finally throw a final as its online not LAN ;)
2020-10-04 00:20
Upper bracket 1-0 advantage is boring. Upper bracket means fewer matches to win that's what you get out of winning it. You also get more rest before final. Dota never has upper bracket 1-0 advantage in tournaments. I'd say it was 50-50 without 1-0 advantage but Navi should definitely take this with 1-0 advantage.
2020-10-04 00:20
#365
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Poland Tripul
+1 it's boost for Navi but they work for this and this is reward
2020-10-04 00:27
this is a dumb system, no team should get a map advantage maybe a veto advantage but 1-0 AND 1st map pick is insane
2020-10-04 00:30
Shut up, they are undefeated on platoffs and deserve it
2020-10-04 01:01
shut up no team deserves a map lead in a GRAND FINAL lol it makes the final more boring and unfair, coming with a disadvantage. imo this would be a 50-50 matchup like the guy above said, but that makes it more like 80-20.. there is no sport doing this, not dota, not lol ect. but yeah lets give the upper bracket winner 1-0 + Map pick xd
2020-10-04 01:04
+1
2020-10-04 01:44
#399
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Ukraine FGVM
2020-10-04 01:47
2020-10-04 04:11
You still talking shit dude Hahahaha
2020-10-04 10:34
#605
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Asia SWARN151
Nope, it is fair. That's because the team that came from lower bracket (Astralis) lost once and got a 2nd chance to play. They kept winning to reach the grand final. Every team that lost in upper bracket was given a 2nd chance and not eliminated straight-away. So, if NAVI lose, they obviously won't get a 2nd chance at another grand final. The solution to make it fair for the upper bracket team, is 1 map advantage.
2020-10-04 14:09
#394
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Ukraine FGVM
Hard disagree, NAVI would've already won the tournament if the regular system was used here. The thing is that if the tournament used the regular playoff system, then NaVi Heroic match would've been the grand final and Astralis would've gotten eliminated in the quarterfinals. Adding the lower bracket forces NaVi to play 1 more match in order to get the win instead of just winning the whole thing in 3 matches as it's done in the regular playoffs system. Astralis, on the other hand, got a second chance to win the tournament despite losing the opening playoffs match, so getting a 0:1 disadvantage doesn't sound bad at all in comparison. Considering all of these factors, the 1 map advantage is very reasonable and makes things balanced and fair. It also makes the grand final more dynamic as well as removing the issue of Bo5s being too long and tiring to watch sometimes.
2020-10-04 01:42
It's a shit compromise between single elim vs double elim. Either do double elim or don't. But don't do double elim and give an advantage to upper bracket to try to make it a little more like single elim. Double elim tournaments are much better imo. I wish CSGO did them more often. But map advantage kind of ruins it.
2020-10-04 01:45
#422
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United States Swadplan
disagree tbh, I think double elim tournaments are shit, it removes the excitement of a top tier team getting upset, because they'll just run it back in the lower bracket. single elim is much more exciting.
2020-10-04 04:17
I enjoy seeing top tier teams fuck up and then have to play perfectly to avoid elimination and deliver on their promise. Double elim tournaments are also much longer generally which is more enjoyable. If this was a single elim tournament it would be six matches total.
2020-10-04 18:09
#973
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United States Swadplan
I like the length, I agree with you there. But I just like the one chance, sudden death that occurs in single elim. I like watching "fluke" runs/games where if you're out, you're gone.
2020-10-04 18:24
Ez4NAVI
2020-10-04 00:21
GONAVI
2020-10-04 00:21
Let's go Astralis!!!!
2020-10-04 00:31
#374
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Probably the only final lineup in online Era that would have made sense on Lan too. Just believe NaVi got too much of an edge with that one map advantage and are gonna take it 3-1
2020-10-04 00:32
pakistan lol
2020-10-04 04:09
#546
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Irrelevant nonsensical comment
2020-10-04 11:48
pkmkb XD
2020-10-04 14:00
#624
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Pakistan LoOuU2
not funny , didnt laugh. Piss off fakeflagger.
2020-10-04 14:54
but uu did realise what i meant right, that's what i wanted,deadbrain, pakistani dehshatgard
2020-10-04 16:06
can anyone elaborate on that 1 map advantage? Does NaVi get to choose the map they want after the veto? or it is just their pick?
2020-10-04 00:37
Astralis should be picking the first map. As for map advantage, it means NaVi leads by 1 map by default, how hard is it to understand?
2020-10-04 00:41
thats not the question
2020-10-04 00:41
Read my answer again
2020-10-04 00:41
explain this then? hltv.org/matches/2343714/furia-vs-100-th.. Mirage was left over, and FURIA chose mirage as their 1-0 map advantage
2020-10-04 00:43
understandable that you have no answer to that, dont bother being a smartass next time if u got no clue about it
2020-10-04 00:51
Are you retarded or something? No seriously are you pulling my dick or you are just that fucking stupid? You don't choose a map to have an advantage on. You get a score lead. It's like starting a footbal game where your team leads by 1-0 from the start. After that it's just the simple veto process, you ban a map, than you pick a map. Like how are you serously that fucking dull
2020-10-04 01:16
typical ruski moron, doesnt understand the question and gets mad about it, learn the human behavior you animal #387 example
2020-10-04 01:18
#427
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Russia Thfthf
ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT?
2020-10-04 04:55
"and FURIA chose mirage as their 1-0 map advantage" AAHAHAHHAHA He is fking retarded bro, don't be mad.
2020-10-04 06:00
2020-10-04 13:44
#442
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Germany Rip_snax_
I can only support you. He is really retarded. Makes no sense to explain him anything. Never red such a utter trash like from this guy🤣
2020-10-04 07:34
2020-10-04 13:45
#387
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Lithuania aisTISsS
no, it's the final map, whichever map is the last, will be navis 1-0 advantage
2020-10-04 01:15
any source? but yea, that was my question, thanks for the answer
2020-10-04 01:16
They don't have an advantage on a map, it's just a default 1-0 map start, like u know it's best of 5 maps, and who gets to 3, wins. NaVi only need to win 2 because they have 1 by default as an advantage for coming from the upper bracket.
2020-10-04 01:54
#387 answered already, thats what I wanted to know
2020-10-04 13:44
I answered because I didn't think #387 gave a good explanation.
2020-10-04 14:00
ye, he was the only one who correctly understood my question, #434 #442 #389 didnt even get the question and I am retarded for that xD
2020-10-04 14:41
ye :D Oh btw I just had covid19 so maybe I don't give it to you virtually (I mentioned cuz of your name)
2020-10-04 14:46
B-B-B-BANGER!!! I like that NaVi has map advantage. This way the final will probably go to final map. My guess: 3-2 Astralis
2020-10-04 00:46
with astralis soo shaky on inferno and nuke i dont see astralis winning this d2 infe train nuke and Train is one of the classic navi map it will be 3-1 for navi astralis can win d2
2020-10-04 08:42
My guess: 3-0/1 for NaVi
2020-10-04 14:47
This is the first match I'm gonna watch in this online era
2020-10-04 00:47
#383
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Portugal Diogo0814
EZ4NAVI
2020-10-04 00:52
#384
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Peru Rhenie
Should be a quick series. Astralis have never beaten NaVi in 2020 and that map advantage wont really help to change that fact.
2020-10-04 00:56
GREAET FINAL EVER
2020-10-04 01:35
Hahaha 😁. WTF. Odd 1.5 on navi with 1-0 on map... Navi close 3-0 or 3-1. Maybe nuke win Astralis but its 50-50..... Navi have the Best form all player S1mple Electronic Flamie Perfecto Boombl4. Five players on better form.. this tournament its like Katowice very easy for navi
2020-10-04 01:41
Perfecto_never_lost_against_astralis
2020-10-04 01:45
+1
2020-10-04 01:51
+1 and he has improved his rating a lot from 0.95 to 1.05 and increasing
2020-10-04 08:40
This is a great match to watch but a hard one to bet on tbh XD If godlectronic performs like in the match against heroic and pimple plays as usual it could be even a 3-0 navi but if not astralis can easily upset
2020-10-04 02:06
Ty for 3,94 for 3:0 navi
2020-10-04 02:17
So easy for NAVI
2020-10-04 02:32
#406
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Australia Cheesle2
1 map advantage residentsleeper
2020-10-04 02:49
#407
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Finland H0rnPub
I think this is the best final so far in 6 months
2020-10-04 02:53
+1
2020-10-04 08:40
#413
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Kazakhstan a1eN64
I hope we will see top tier cs here, definitely should be 3-2 for one of them
2020-10-04 03:43
I don't know who to cheer for! Both are deserve it very much. I just hope we get a great game!
2020-10-04 03:49
#477
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Ukraine BachaBoom
For sure, man
2020-10-04 08:58
Na'Vi all the way
2020-10-04 03:51
1 map advantage ruins everything it's so shitty
2020-10-04 03:52
#424
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Australia Dredd_6
+1
2020-10-04 04:53
#423
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Europe Vallon4
Almost impossible to win with a map disadvantage...
2020-10-04 04:30
#425
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Australia Dredd_6
+1
2020-10-04 04:53
#2122
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Europe Vallon4
Pog They did it.
2020-10-04 23:13
#435
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Georgia Xeeh
3-1 astralis
2020-10-04 06:23
lmao
2020-10-04 08:39
flag checks out,leave him alone with his wet dreams
2020-10-04 09:51
#2124
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Europe Vallon4
What now?
2020-10-04 23:13
not 3-1,it was 3-2 :)
2020-10-05 09:37
#2125
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Europe Vallon4
THEY FUCKING DID IT.
2020-10-04 23:13
#426
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Australia Dredd_6
1 map advantage = aids and not as exciting to watch...
2020-10-04 04:54
dota major grand final also the international final they are all bo5 and there is no shitty 1 map advantage ..... why cs go cant learn from other valve big tournaments xd
2020-10-04 06:26
Remember every day is different, Na'Vi can play like gods one day and be booty the other. Electronic had the games of his life recently I don't think he will do the same this game.
2020-10-04 06:50
lmaooooo
2020-10-04 07:27
The game of his life probably was against Liquid on Dust 2 when he won it 1v9
2020-10-04 08:11
gl to both teams
2020-10-04 06:57
#441
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Indonesia LosD
bo5 or bo3?
2020-10-04 07:32
bo5 ofc
2020-10-04 07:39
#480
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Indonesia LosD
ty
2020-10-04 09:02
are you fuck you?
2020-10-04 07:39
#478
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Indonesia LosD
tf? im just asking srsly
2020-10-04 09:01
its hltv meme)
2020-10-04 16:11
#852
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Indonesia LosD
oh ok my bad
2020-10-04 17:33
no, my bad for not telling you sooner
2020-10-04 17:38
bo7 actually
2020-10-04 07:55
#479
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Indonesia LosD
hm ok
2020-10-04 09:02
basically bo3 because navi have 1 free map for upperbracket and astralis 1 free map nuke so score 1-1 already
2020-10-04 09:31
Remember Nuke at Katowice?
2020-10-04 14:01
#445
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New Zealand SkirmishX
S1mple late birthday present?
2020-10-04 07:47
Banger
2020-10-04 08:07
Let's get ready to rumble
2020-10-04 08:10
3-2 match for either team
2020-10-04 08:19
Ez 2.5 odds for my Danish boys <3
2020-10-04 08:25
Let's go dev1ce !!! <3
2020-10-04 08:27
#453
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United States AuraVII
Easy 3-0 for NaVi, they are looking great right now.
2020-10-04 08:31
Legendary classic. Hope to see a good game. Good luck, teams
2020-10-04 08:32
dust 2 infe nuke train
2020-10-04 08:39
GL Navi
2020-10-04 08:51
first time i can admit that astralis dont have a chance
2020-10-04 08:56
Rofl ez astralis fat guy on yellow team doesnt have hands
2020-10-04 16:28
#481
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Germany Rip_snax_
ASTRALIS 3-1
2020-10-04 09:08
El Clasico
2020-10-04 09:20
ez 3-1 astralis (s0mple will drop 5 bomb on the first map)
2020-10-04 09:21
+111111111
2020-10-04 09:33
ok yuurih
2020-10-04 11:54
Navi ez lol
2020-10-04 09:25
So easy for GOATSTRALIS 3-0 edit: remember navi_never_beat_Astralis_in_final... s0mple about to drop 3 bomb in first map
2020-10-04 09:34
#499
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Ukraine BachaBoom
Why you deliver hate to that forum toxic? What it brings to your rooted brain?
2020-10-04 10:04
Sorry, I just want Astralis to win :D
2020-10-04 10:14
#542
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Ukraine BachaBoom
Heh okay 😁🙌
2020-10-04 11:35
Dude, stop being so toxic. I haven't seen any NaVi fan in this thread who is shitting Astralis or Astralis players, everyone respects them. And they also obviously want NaVi to win
2020-10-04 10:46
astralis never beat navi in 2020 XD
2020-10-04 11:54
0/8 ez 3-0 win for NaVi. Asstralis too scared and already forfeited 1 map KEKW
2020-10-04 13:18
Well! It's the danish clutch masters vs 2020's most dominant team so far. Both are running hot on streaks that should normally be unsustainable, but, when you are one of the best, you take the statistics and shove them up any opponent's ass. Prob not seeing Mirage played. My guess: Dust2 Nuke Train Overpass Inferno
2020-10-04 09:43
#494
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Russia nizh
Yeah, but remember that Navi already at 1-0 on this match, because they passed the upper bracket and this gives them 1 map to the lead
2020-10-04 09:56
Ah yes, true, only 4 maps to be played. Sooo...leave out Inferno...possibly...
2020-10-04 11:09
#495
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Ukraine BachaBoom
Good guess! 100% agree
2020-10-04 09:56
#490
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Ukraine BachaBoom
I think Astralis will win Inferno cause they'll find a way to control elic on pit by watching last demos So it would be 3:2 for navi cause they have strong advantage so far on train and dust2 Who will win dust2 - will win the game
2020-10-04 09:49
I have seen two last Astralis' games, and for me its obvious 3-0 for NaVi I respect Astralis so much, they are GOATs of this game, but today it's gonna be not close game
2020-10-04 09:54
#511
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Denmark Ulver
Agree
2020-10-04 10:29
#574
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Germany sommares
yea but look at the way astralis did the comebacks yesterday cs heroic, that was impressive edit: once they wake up, theyre unstoppable. but as we saw, it's a matter of time when they wake up
2020-10-04 12:51
#496
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Georgia Me3k
Guys who will pick first ?
2020-10-04 09:57
Me
2020-10-04 10:35
Navi
2020-10-04 15:02
Natus vincere has officially rebranded their organization. They are now flukus noobsere. check hltv
2020-10-04 09:59
Imagine crying before the game cuz you already know that your team will lose lmao
2020-10-04 10:35
ez for Astralis 3-1
2020-10-04 10:42
We'll see.....
2020-10-04 10:46
see more Ahahahahaha
2020-10-04 23:44
#534
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Europe H1P_STER
+1
2020-10-04 10:59