00:30
10th of October 2020
 
Match over
Maps
Best of 3 * Group B
1. Chaos removed Vertigo
2. Liquid removed Train
3. Chaos picked Nuke
4. Liquid picked Dust2
5. Chaos removed Inferno
6. Liquid removed Overpass
7. Mirage was left over
Nuke
Liquid
16
(7:8; 9:4)
Chaos
12
Dust2
Liquid
16
(9:6; 7:8)
Chaos
14
Mirage
Liquid
-
Chaos
-
Rewatch
United KingdomESL TV (Map 1 - Nuke)Vod
United KingdomESL TV (Map 2 - Dust 2)Vod
Highlights
M1 | EliGE - 1vs2 clutch (T - bomb planted after 1 clutch kill)
M2 | NAF - 3 AK kills (2 HS) on the bmbsite A offensive (2vs3 situation)
M2 | Grim - 1vs2 clutch (CT - post-plant situation)
M2 | Xeppaa - 1vs2 clutch (T - post-plant situation)
Match stats
Side
Both
TerroristT
Counter-TerroristCT
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United States
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
EliGE
52-37 +15 98.2 82.8% 1.45
Canada
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
NAF
47-35 +12 97.0 81.0% 1.32
United States
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Grim
46-35 +11 76.2 81.0% 1.24
Canada
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Twistzz
37-40 -3 65.4 75.9% 1.04
United States
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Stewie2K
31-42 -11 62.5 69.0% 0.91
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United States
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
45-44 +1 81.6 72.4% 1.11
United States
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
41-41 0 75.3 75.9% 1.09
United States
Collin 'wrath' McSweegan
wrath
38-39 -1 68.6 74.1% 1.04
United States
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
35-43 -8 64.2 67.2% 0.90
Canada
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
29-46 -17 63.4 60.3% 0.75
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United States
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
EliGE
31-17 +14 110.7 89.3% 1.79
Canada
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
NAF
27-16 +11 107.5 89.3% 1.56
United States
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Grim
20-16 +4 84.1 78.6% 1.16
Canada
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Twistzz
18-18 0 63.2 85.7% 1.09
United States
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Stewie2K
15-20 -5 62.5 67.9% 0.96
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United States
Collin 'wrath' McSweegan
wrath
21-18 +3 76.8 67.9% 1.16
United States
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
23-25 -2 90.4 64.3% 1.07
Canada
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
18-24 -6 76.1 60.7% 0.83
United States
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
13-19 -6 47.6 71.4% 0.78
United States
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
12-25 -13 45.8 53.6% 0.50
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United States
Michael 'Grim' Wince
Grim
26-19 +7 68.9 83.3% 1.31
United States
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
EliGE
21-20 +1 86.5 76.7% 1.13
Canada
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
NAF
20-19 +1 87.2 73.3% 1.11
Canada
Russel 'Twistzz' Van Dulken
Twistzz
19-22 -3 67.4 66.7% 1.00
United States
Jake 'Stewie2K' Yip
Stewie2K
16-22 -6 62.5 70.0% 0.88
K-D +/- ADR KAST Rating2.0
United States
Anthony 'vanity' Malaspina
vanity
28-22 +6 101.1 80.0% 1.41
United States
Nathan 'leaf' Orf
leaf
23-18 +5 81.4 80.0% 1.30
United States
Erick 'Xeppaa' Bach
Xeppaa
22-19 +3 73.4 80.0% 1.16
United States
Collin 'wrath' McSweegan
wrath
17-21 -4 60.9 80.0% 0.94
Canada
Jonathan 'Jonji' Carey
Jonji
11-22 -11 51.4 60.0% 0.70
Player of the matchwon with 74.8% of the votes
Head to head
7
Wins
0
Overtimes
3
Wins
#1
 | 
Finland OldStager
2-0 Liquid
2020-09-30 17:23
f
2020-09-30 17:23
#3
 | 
Finland OldStager
I agree
2020-09-30 17:26
Grim and Stewie carry
2020-09-30 17:28
Yay
2020-09-30 17:31
you misspelled EliGE
2020-10-09 08:25
No EliGE carried yesterday so today is his rest day
2020-10-09 15:34
no matter how much he tries elige will ALWAYS carry
2020-10-09 16:58
Only if needed though, so he will let grim farm stats today
2020-10-09 16:59
#33
 | 
Chile cristiaan
XDDDDDD
2020-10-09 22:32
#6
 | 
Finland r1CEsT1CK
Liquid going for a 2-0
2020-10-01 12:20
Why is wrath on chaos roster lmao
2020-10-01 12:23
i think marke was on swole patrol and they lost their spot so he cant play on chaos im not 100% sure tho
2020-10-01 12:28
you are right
2020-10-09 21:31
lets go wrath
2020-10-01 12:24
It is quite easy for wrath
2020-10-09 02:37
trust liquid with your money if you want to die
2020-10-09 03:39
#13
God | 
Russia amc20
Nuke Overpass Mirage Hopefully Liquid plays confidently without going too crazy
2020-10-09 08:15
EZ4LIQUID EZ4ELİGEEEEEEEEE
2020-10-09 08:49
Go Chaos GL
2020-10-09 12:40
chaos
2020-10-09 14:38
#18
 | 
United States Rambeard
I would love to see Chaos win this, but that’s quite a tall order.
2020-10-09 15:30
-Stewie2k +wrath Ez top 4
2020-10-09 17:27
#138
 | 
United States stotte
-IGL +inexperienced fragger I dont like Stewie2k's style of leadership but I'll take what Stewie provides over no leadership at all
2020-10-10 01:47
chaos will win this. easy 3.30 odds
2020-10-09 18:15
idk who gets first pick but I think Chaos does?? Chaos ban Vertigo Liquid ban Train Chaos pick Nuke Liquid pick Overpass Chaos ban Dust 2 Liquid ban Inferno Mirage decider 2-0 for Liquid, looking way better than before(despite the teams they beat not being very good, they still didn't let them reach anywhere close to striking distance) 16-8 Nuke 16-6 Overpass
2020-10-09 18:21
2-1 liquid
2020-10-09 18:26
#26
 | 
Israel tomnduck
2-1 chaos imo map pool looking the same for both team if you ask me nuke will go chaos way i do think liquid will take dust 2 which chaos wont take it imo mirage/inferno should the last 1 which i think chaos will take
2020-10-09 20:01
#27
EliGE | 
Philippines Drxy
welp I won't be watching this match because of timezone
2020-10-09 20:34
2-0 liquid iziest, chaos won 100t only because of jks leaving
2020-10-09 21:30
2:0 liquid
2020-10-09 21:49
#31
 | 
Chile cristiaan
wrath vs 9
2020-10-09 22:31
EZ 4 SEXEPPAA
2020-10-09 22:32
might be close game, even closer than what TL fans wish
2020-10-09 22:45
#203
God | 
Russia amc20
you said it man
2020-10-10 02:53
3.45 odds axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxsxsxzzzxsxaxsxsxsxsaxa
2020-10-09 22:49
all in chaos, last money. gl lads
2020-10-09 22:55
2-0 chaos
2020-10-09 22:55
2-1 Chaos lets go vanity> Stewie
2020-10-09 23:04
Hopefully chaos they have been looking great recently, having fun with the game
2020-10-09 23:19
#40
 | 
Norway FaZe_eZaF
who picks first map?
2020-10-09 23:31
#42
 | 
Brazil Dyones100
CHAOS
2020-10-09 23:48
#41
 | 
Europe H1P_STER
EZ 4 LEAF
2020-10-09 23:46
chaos is looking way better than LULquid lately. ill gladly take chaos ml @3.30 any day of the week..
2020-10-09 23:57
+1 small bet is worth it for sure
2020-10-10 00:02
wouldn't surprise me if Chaos win this
2020-10-10 00:00
#46
 | 
Brazil YUB8
ez +3 odds
2020-10-10 00:02
ez for jonji
2020-10-10 00:03
#48
 | 
Norway FaZe_eZaF
Chaos to win Map 1 @2.75 ty for money
2020-10-10 00:09
+1
2020-10-10 00:14
I did this y'day, today not sure :( This one might be a 2-0 lulquid
2020-10-10 00:21
you're smart, it will be
2020-10-10 00:23
#66
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
ez for god bettor
2020-10-10 00:42
#79
 | 
Norway FaZe_eZaF
ofc mens))
2020-10-10 01:09
#142
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
ez
2020-10-10 01:59
MarkE gone already?
2020-10-10 00:14
he played the qualifier for this event with another team
2020-10-10 00:32
#51
 | 
United States AuraVII
Chaos have a great chance at taking this series. I will be rooting for them!
2020-10-10 00:15
liquid 2-0 ez
2020-10-10 00:23
#57
 | 
Peru Bangf1sh
Maps ?
2020-10-10 00:26
Dou you think about maps?? Who kick predic?
2020-10-10 00:32
#58
 | 
Turkey arslankral
EZ4 CHAOS
2020-10-10 00:28
Chaos 2-0 leaf 100bomb
2020-10-10 00:30
Rooting for Chaos cause they have the most likeable players in the community!
2020-10-10 00:34
#63
God | 
Russia amc20
I'm surprised, liquid choosing both dust 2 and mirage over overpass..
2020-10-10 00:34
#64
 | 
United States Scrub[
No amount of black lives matter protests will protect Chaos from the 2-0 for liquid.
2020-10-10 00:36
#65
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
thanks for -1.5 @1.7 odds stupid bookies xaxaxa
2020-10-10 00:42
???) specom zaranee ebalo otkrivaew chtoby potom obosratsya?
2020-10-10 00:58
#72
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
wtf is this retarded language
2020-10-10 00:58
davay naberew dolboeb ruski, udachnyh stavok
2020-10-10 01:02
leaf hax not on for today?
2020-10-10 00:43
#68
 | 
Germany jnsCsgo
Oh elige came to play today
2020-10-10 00:51
#69
 | 
Brazil lul321
Elige is back
2020-10-10 00:51
xaxa lulquid lost to glocks
2020-10-10 00:51
#74
ropz | 
Poland vrdny
Liquid cant lose to team with standin, ez
2020-10-10 01:03
Wrath is a god
2020-10-10 01:05
Ez win for chaos Thanks for the money
2020-10-10 01:05
#82
 | 
Liberia dan1silvaa
Liquid will win
2020-10-10 01:11
Maybe with a very good awper Chaos can be solid top 15
2020-10-10 01:06
Chaos have to win pistol or it will be gg
2020-10-10 01:09
#81
 | 
Liberia dan1silvaa
9-8 for liquid
2020-10-10 01:11
#80
 | 
Liberia dan1silvaa
Lmaoooo Grim had those 2 kills on ramp xD He should ve got only 1
2020-10-10 01:11
#83
 | 
Liberia dan1silvaa
Liquid 10-8 Ez boys Fuck chaos 😂
2020-10-10 01:12
And gg because chaos can’t trade or kill people with backs turned
2020-10-10 01:12
#85
HS | 
Europe nvebev
chaos against 100bots = gods chaos against normal team = bots
2020-10-10 01:16
a 8-6 t side nuke lead and they choke hahahhaha
2020-10-10 01:18
Fuckin bot aim. Bot placement . bot rotates.... how can you losing your own pick having a lead going into the most heavy ct sided map...
2020-10-10 01:18
Suddenly bot aim for chaos .? Lol quite literally bit aim on chaos after that half lol
2020-10-10 01:19
#89
Ace | 
Korea xKusuo
wrath + leaf + xeppaa = imba cheater squad
2020-10-10 01:20
Ez 4 transgender god Xeppa
2020-10-10 01:20
you can always count on LULquid to choke <3
2020-10-10 01:21
11-8, lose eco, lose the map. I love it
2020-10-10 01:21
#93
HS | 
Europe nvebev
wrong
2020-10-10 01:27
Had to cash it out... fuck
2020-10-10 01:38
Round over - Winner: T (12 - 11) - Enemy eliminated EliGE killed vanity with ak47 (headshot) EliGE planted the bomb (1on1) EliGE + Grim (assist) killed Jonji with ak47 Jonji + Xeppaa (assist) killed Grim with m4a1 Grim killed leaf with ak47 (headshot) leaf killed Twistzz with m4a1 Grim killed Xeppaa with ak47 (headshot) Twistzz killed wrath with ak47 (headshot) wrath + Jonji(flash assist) killed Stewie2K with ak47 (headshot) Xeppaa + Jonji(flash assist) killed NAF with m4a1 LOSE round= lose game
2020-10-10 01:28
#95
HS | 
Europe nvebev
elige stomping noobs
2020-10-10 01:28
Round 23 elige blatant AIMLOCK for the clutch. SUUUUURE BUD
2020-10-10 01:28
god damn elige making me ############
2020-10-10 01:28
elige fans so heppy men)))
2020-10-10 01:39
stewie ADr 19 Twistzz 27 LUL LUL
2020-10-10 01:29
#99
 | 
Liberia dan1silvaa
Leaf is so trash How the fuck they lost that 5vs3 lmaooo
2020-10-10 01:29
How in the world are chaos so bad at trades.. in the fkn ct side! I don’t get how liquid can keep getting multi kills on entry
2020-10-10 01:31
chaos probably loses this map after this shitty round. but i still think they can win the last 2. everyone can play d2 and mirage so why not
2020-10-10 01:31
NO WAY THIS BRAINLESS TEAM CAN WIN A MAP
2020-10-10 01:32
Lose 2x 1vs1 Lose game Fucking garbage vanity Prefer awp than pick m4 or ak
2020-10-10 01:31
WTF THESE FORCEBUY???? REPORT CHAOS FOR MATCHFIXING
2020-10-10 01:31
Match fixing for semis nt
2020-10-10 01:41
#105
ropz | 
Poland vrdny
Free money 1.5 on liquid, chaos bettors 😹
2020-10-10 01:34
Lose both pistols.. lose every 1v1 lose a 2v1 that shouldn’t have been lost.. fkn idiots
2020-10-10 01:34
3 FORCEBUY AND PUSH IN A ROW WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT TEAM
2020-10-10 01:36
elige what a god
2020-10-10 01:34
#108
 | 
United States Thund4h
just smash those dudes liquid lol
2020-10-10 01:34
EASIEST 2-0 EVER
2020-10-10 01:34
Leaf 30 adr bot, trash team
2020-10-10 01:35
#111
HS | 
Europe nvebev
dont google chaos dust 2
2020-10-10 01:35
Aaaannnd lose 5v3 this is absolute insane
2020-10-10 01:35
0 IQ CALL FROM LIQUID. WHY DIDN'T MOSES TELL THEM TO HURRY THEIR ASSES UP
2020-10-10 01:36
liquid is so bad they lose 0-2 to EG every time
2020-10-10 01:38
i know and i'm not sure who to blame more, moses or bot2k
2020-10-10 01:39
moses, the team's choice to get fucking grim, stewierating0.2k
2020-10-10 01:39
#115
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
16-12 gg never doubt, ez for predic123 god bettor
2020-10-10 01:37
Who predicted it ?
2020-10-10 01:40
#126
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
me
2020-10-10 01:40
#127
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
2020-10-10 01:40
Damn chaos threw that map so hqrd towards the end. Unluko, ggs!
2020-10-10 01:38
#117
 | 
Russia Me1sta
Liquid didn’t deserve win this nap , fucking elige has life game , never play like this before , chaos anyway better then this garbage whose cant win anyone (oh sorry they win mythic )
2020-10-10 01:38
How much ?
2020-10-10 01:39
#130
God | 
Russia amc20
How new?
2020-10-10 01:41
#133
God | 
Russia amc20
Oh. Signed up last month. Makes sense
2020-10-10 01:44
#131
 | 
Singapore AffinityZ
you are delusional, elige is always this good
2020-10-10 01:42
8-6 t side nuke lead 11-11 ct lose 5v3 11-15 12-15 lose 5v3 12-16 lovely throw
2020-10-10 01:39
Thats why they will never win anything relaxa and watch them disbanding soon
2020-10-10 01:41
Wanna die rly
2020-10-10 01:46
-stewie +oBo only way to make liquid top 10 team again
2020-10-10 01:42
true
2020-10-10 01:44
Maybe +fallen if they're looking for an igl
2020-10-10 02:27
#135
 | 
CIS bliNdfOld
350$ on lulquid m2 gogo gogo elije
2020-10-10 01:45
#136
 | 
Peru Bangf1sh
map2 4 chetos
2020-10-10 01:45
chaos hopefully wins d2 and mirage chaos ml @5.80 looked so good
2020-10-10 01:54
#141
 | 
CIS bliNdfOld
should be @10
2020-10-10 01:58
im on it as well lets goo
2020-10-10 02:02
#146
HS | 
Europe nvebev
they are getting rekted really hard atm
2020-10-10 02:11
#144
HS | 
Europe nvebev
chaos>100thieves>lulquid>chaos na at its finest omegalul
2020-10-10 02:10
And here we go again with chaos being absolute shit at trades or having man advantages
2020-10-10 02:11
I’m fucking done 4-2 I bet on 2.15 4-8 This game is fucked up
2020-10-10 02:12
the problem is why did u bet? everyone knows liquid will win , look at odds dude , odds favor on liquid
2020-10-10 02:18
They lost every single advantage on nuke ct and they lost every single advantage on dust This is about luck I guess not about odds
2020-10-10 02:37
It’s just so simple. No one on chaos has aim.. they can’t trade. Thaey can’t hold angles or win 1v1 honestly never seen a worse ct team
2020-10-10 02:14
8 7 1st half pls BlessRNG
2020-10-10 02:15
9 6 gh
2020-10-10 02:17
Lol how do they choke these rounds.
2020-10-10 02:20
chaos win the pistol win the game
2020-10-10 02:20
Hahah vanity on awp😂
2020-10-10 02:21
#155
 | 
Peru Bangf1sh
dust 2 t side?
2020-10-10 02:21
#156
 | 
Philippines EDBX
Chaos shooting dead bodies after winning 2 consecutive rounds. Still gonna get 2-0'd. What else is new?
2020-10-10 02:24
Funny that Chaos never really was a promising team (maybe that wippie line-up tho?). Too bad the Brazilians went full mental on it
2020-10-10 02:26
#162
 | 
El Salvador 97532971
-leaf -Jonji/marke +oSee +wrath
2020-10-10 02:32
oSee is a beast
2020-10-10 17:19
#213
 | 
El Salvador 97532971
Chaos maybe top 10 with vanity(?) Xeppaaa oSee wrath Jonji/Marke/leaf idk who
2020-10-10 19:09
Elige is coming back to form. We love to see it.
2020-10-10 02:28
#160
 | 
El Salvador 97532971
We need to see them play LAN, i feel like they will actually be alot better than people expect. Online can be very random and stewie will perform better on lan i feel like and i also feel like they could easily be a top 5 team on lan
2020-10-10 02:31
cmon chaos 3 more rounds
2020-10-10 02:32
#164
HS | 
Europe nvebev
not today they are not playing 100bots
2020-10-10 02:35
o27.5 saved Chaos SeemsGood
2020-10-10 02:42
Aaaaaaand another insanely terrible blow round by chaos
2020-10-10 02:35
#165
 | 
Europe ropz^1
ok grim save lulquid
2020-10-10 02:37
Grim 1v9 When kick Bot2k
2020-10-10 02:37
Chaos xD Stupid team
2020-10-10 02:38
Ok now chaos is obviously just throwing.. that’s about the 4th round bs like that happened
2020-10-10 02:38
#170
 | 
Brazil lul321
Daaaamn
2020-10-10 02:38
Cmon chaos, useless trash take dd2
2020-10-10 02:39
Vanity is a fkn rtard, jumping down ct spawn with 30 hp in a 1v3 for no reason at all giving away kills.. fkn stupid team throwing round after round🤣
2020-10-10 02:39
Plz ban chaos this is absolutely impossible to be this fkn shit
2020-10-10 02:39
>jump into ct and it's over, ladies and gents
2020-10-10 02:39
#175
 | 
Europe ropz^1
they given clutch after clutch
2020-10-10 02:40
YES LET GRIM CLUTCH EVERY ROUND BY STUPID PEEKS, LOWSCUM CHAOS
2020-10-10 02:40
omg vanity why bruh there were like 3 chances for chaos to comeback this one out and in the most important vanity just throwing the game when he jumped down from short to ct
2020-10-10 02:41
16-14 chaos pls
2020-10-10 02:42
And people thinks lulquid good, chaos would have won both games if they didnt throw advantages for nothing, kinda hilarious to watch "pro cs"😂
2020-10-10 02:43
Lulquid isnt good but chaos is completely trash will never win anything
2020-10-10 02:44
Exactly look at those throwing apes, pure shit, thank vanity for jumping down ct spawn 1v3 for no reason 1iq, and how many 4v2 did they lose? 4-5? Embarrasing shit
2020-10-10 02:54
OT incoming?
2020-10-10 02:43
I will never understand this forcebuy desease does it have heal????
2020-10-10 02:44
looks like 16-14 for chaos liquid drama mode online
2020-10-10 02:45
#187
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
15-14 liquid
2020-10-10 02:46
ok bro
2020-10-10 02:47
#190
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
ez
2020-10-10 02:47
gg bro
2020-10-10 02:48
#194
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
liquid is trash it hurts betting on teams and players i hate but it's for money
2020-10-10 02:49
14-9 > forcebuy > 14-14
2020-10-10 02:45
#186
 | 
Luxembourg winner666
lulquid
2020-10-10 02:45
#188
 | 
El Salvador 97532971
el classico 16-14 liquid
2020-10-10 02:46
both teams are trash this match made me sick
2020-10-10 02:48
wohh i almost have heart attack damn liquid 16-14 ...
2020-10-10 02:48
Classic na trash, pls disband this useless team chaos
2020-10-10 02:50
#196
HS | 
Europe nvebev
14 9 -> 14 14 -> 16 14 na clownfiesta
2020-10-10 02:50
#197
 | 
Europe ropz^1
g g chaos 3 free clutch and close map full tard NA
2020-10-10 02:51
Grim with the fucking game of his life has won the game fot TL
2020-10-10 02:52
damn that was close
2020-10-10 02:52
Lmao obvious script.. fake comeback.. choke numbers advantage .. same shit as always
2020-10-10 02:52
yep there is a script everywhere, everything is against you, the whole world is against you. sad...
2020-10-10 02:54
Liquid playing like shit, won only cuz few Grim's clutches
2020-10-10 02:52
holy shit chaos threw so many rounds Rip my 5 bucks
2020-10-10 02:53
chaos lost 3 retakes (t side) with man advantage
2020-10-10 02:53
#205
CeRq | 
Poland RoDaK
nt chaos pitty they choked that last round, i was hoping to see an OT
2020-10-10 02:53
leaf with cheats disabled = -13 KEKW
2020-10-10 02:54
leaf against a good team
2020-10-10 09:24
amazing THROWSHIT CHAOS TEAM lose 11 times 4 vs 2 and 3 vs 2 very NICAAAAAAA mister BIZONE
2020-10-10 12:17
HOW MANY TIMES DOES NAF HAVE TO DIE WITH AN AWP HOLDING FOR EXITS AFTER THEY CALL THE SAVE. JUST HIDE NAF THATS HOW YOU LOST DUST 2 AGAINST EG IN THE FINALS
2020-10-10 17:08
Relax its "young" Stewie that needs to get the boot. This bot is bottom fragging every match while casually stealing paychecks
2020-10-11 11:01
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Philippines EDBX
Convincing Liquid management he could IGL probably saved his ass. 200 IQ moves tbh, but I still hope for his success.
2020-10-11 11:18
I never got to see what happened the round where it was grim vs vanity at a site and grim. Is about to lose connection to the server.
2020-10-11 19:18
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