Its all good though right? ence is happy with it, alaksi is haooy in new team i mean its all good right= They all do what they can. Im just thinking we need more understanding and happynrss. Its just cs after aoll and we shouldnt be so angry and whatever about it all. We just enjoy watching that games and thats all we can ask for tbh. watch great cs and cherich the meories and feeling we can have while watching it. have so many great memories, like nip vs ldlc how great was that, i rememver that game i remember cheering my asss of being so invested feeling good and thats what its all about. im not screaming fuck maikalele he sucks or whatever im thinking that was some great final and maikelele gave me some great memories. that is what we should focus on i think. im realising this now btw but it seems so obvious. remember all the good times tou had watching aleksi in ence. it gave you something, hype, happyness watching a win or whatever, it was great.
Finns overall are special kind of people. Even on ice hockey where Finland is one of the best countries, people are saying "Not with this roster" and when they make some success, they act like they have always believed on them. Recent was on the WC 2019, people were saying that Finland doesnt make it past groups, but then Finland won the world championship and everyone was acting like mentioned.
Same for ENCE, even the national media was titling news like "Did the most successful Esport roster from Finland ever made the worst move?" and that also turns the hate against ENCE, instead of understanding the facts why, and when it was made.
Tbh ENCE´s downgrade is small, with Aleksib they made it to IEM Chicago finals, but got stomped and it was the tournament when their downhill started, with Aleksib. Same scenario was there, ENCE had two good maps, Train and Nuke, Dust and Mirage were mediocore, and Inferno and Overpass bad, as they had Vertigo on permaban list. Now they are having Train and Dust as their best maps, and Inferno and Nuke are mediocore, but still not on the same level as they could be.
Ironic that people are saying that ENCE doesnt have firepower or tactics, but still they are one of the best, even the best Train team in the world. Also easily in top 10 teams on Dust.
ENCE did make a mistake in benching aleksib. It was unfortunate that liquid was popping off like mad and nobody could stop them, but after the chicago loss it was like its aleksis fault ENCE players are losing all the aimduels all over the map. Liquid would make stupid plays and end up in 2v4 or 1v3 often, but then ENCE would still find a way to just lose the aimduels and the round again and again. I understand why the move was made but it was still a mistake.
As for ENCE downgrade, they went from top 5 or even top 3 team to top 15 max. They went down a FULL ONE TIER. That's not a small downgrade. We no longer have a tier 1 team because the most important player was kicked. Faze, godsent, fnatic and many others made the same mistake. At least fnatic and godsent realized their mistake and brought the IGL back and their results immediately recovered. ENCE never even admitted their mistake and they will never recover to be back in tier 1 where they could be.
Best train team in the world? Don't make me laugh. NIP were the first top tier team that gave them respect on train and they won the map comfortably despite ENCE getting some undeserved rounds. As for dust they will get wrecked on it as soon as top teams start taking them seriously. Now they are a typical tier 2 upset team winning against top teams only when they are not given respect (watching demoes of them before the game etc.) when they could be legit top5 still without one of the most stupid roster moves in csgo history.
ENCE was loved as team that was underdog with low firepower but their IGL making big brain plays to make many other top tier teams look silly. Then their star awper decided that he could kick the IGL for more firepower and go IGL himself. Literally everyone who knew ANYTHING about CS knew how bad of an idea it was. Many finnish fans were frustrated that ENCE would risk losing their advantage against top teams and that is exectly what happened. It's no wonder ENCE is now either hated or just memed silly like no other team. They get what they deserve and they're not even admitting it.
I love Aleksib and agree with many of your points but Ence started doing worse before Alekisb was kicked and its crazy how people are saying that when ence was doing good it was because of Aleksib but when they were losing with him it wasnt his fault.
It was over a year ago and like #22 said, everyone involved are happy but still the "fans" are salty about it. Im a fan of ENCE and Aleksib. I only watch OG games when they reach finals or other important matches because I really dont care about the other players in OG.
The main point is that it would be nice if everyone just stopped bitching about stuff that even the people actually involved dont care about anymore.
PS. The stuff I said is mainly directed at the salty Aleksib supporters who hate ENCE, not necessarily at you. You seem to actually be smarter.
OG is very impressive to even make it in the top10, gotta give more props to aleksib for being able to squeeze as much out of this bunch of players as possible and they could STILL improve as a team. They literally have players from EVERY corner of europe with vastly different cultures and ways of thinking.
MASSIVE communication issues just because of the makeup of the team and they still contending with most other top10 teams is legit insane. I would still like to one day see aleksib with actual top tier firepower around him willing to respect his IGLing, I mean how far could a team like THAT go if he is hitting top10 with issaa, mantuu and nbk in his team?