Cph Wolves win The Blast over fnatic

MIRAA
May 12th, 2013 13:17

Copenhagen Wolves have been crowned champions of The Blast #5 following a 19-16 victory over fnatic in the grand final.

Having come from the right side of bracket following a comfortable 2-0 victory over Western Wolves in the Upper final, Cph Wolves needed to win just one map to lift the trophy and seal a dream event for them, after winning the Gaming.dk League finals on Friday.

The second place in the final was earned by fnatic, who took revenge on Western Wolves for Thursday's defeat, with Andreas "MODDII" Fridh's troops posting an impressive 16-5 victory in the consolidation final to go through to the tournament decider.

Copenhagen Wolves wantz

wantz was in great form throughout the event

The final was neck and neck between the two teams as neither side were able to stamp their authority on the game, but Cph Wolves came out the brighter in overtime to pick up a 19-16 victory and secure their second title in a matter of days.

Matchpage
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11th May 2013
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The Blast #5 final standings:

1. Denmark Copenhagen Wolves - €1,750
2. Denmark fnatic - €875
3. Denmark Western Wolves - €290
4. Denmark Xapso

fnatic changes incoming
2013-05-12 13:19
#10
Slovakia xarc 
-stinger +guardian
2013-05-12 13:30
why stinger? he played redicilous good
2013-05-12 13:38
#23
Slovakia xarc 
many fans are talking about him as "weakest" cell in fnatic not agreeing with it, but if they think he's low.. it's their thought
2013-05-12 13:49
#28
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
Their thought so you post it....
2013-05-12 13:53
#30
Slovakia xarc 
want to know if they will agree with it :D
2013-05-12 13:54
stinger played really well this tournament , but he is still the worst fnatic player although I dont think there is a better player to replace him.
2013-05-12 15:30
#69
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
Probably yeah :p
2013-05-12 16:50
#118
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United States criimson 
That had to be the most pathetic self-defence ever kid, ran out of ideas yeah?
2013-05-12 23:48
his pistol is crazy stuff ;)
2013-05-12 15:54
he seems inconsistent from the minimal amount of games i've watched him
2013-05-13 01:20
-fiff +guar
2013-05-12 17:55
#108
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Denmark w0lteX 
Guardian? You realize they speak Danish in the team right?
2013-05-12 21:05
Take a look what he wrote he said -fiff not -friis or anyone like that...and they speak japanese in NiP. trust me.
2013-05-12 21:09
He wrote stinger, are you high?
2013-05-12 21:33
:D:D:D:D high as fuck
2013-05-12 21:41
#116
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Denmark e1z 
Hahahahaha he didnt reply to #82 ;D he replied to #10 brothr PHRha :)
2013-05-12 23:25
#122
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Denmark w0lteX 
So right now, me calling you an idiot, would be too easy. Just think before typing, thx.
2013-05-13 01:39
#2
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CIS stormyinho 
Gratz!
2013-05-12 13:20
Crazy level from cph
2013-05-12 13:20
#4
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Serbia dekizh =DD 
Xapso deserve 5$ for Ice cream!
2013-05-12 13:23
#12
Serbia TBO 
+1
2013-05-12 13:36
but for not each player. All for one!
2013-05-12 16:30
#5
Netherlands Kochz 
G_G
2013-05-12 13:24
#6
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
isnt that dupreeh on the picture ? Gratz CPH
2013-05-12 13:25
No it's wantz :D
2013-05-12 13:41
#27
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
Okay, my bad :=) Pretty sure rizc introduced him as Dupreeh, maybe im wrong.
2013-05-12 13:52
dupreeh did the interview..but its not the same guy in the picture..
2013-05-12 14:03
pretty sure y u no remember faces ;d
2013-05-12 14:03
Cph Wolves played awesome , very impressed !! gg
2013-05-12 13:26
wantz&cajunb sick players.
2013-05-12 13:27
#9
India n0vaP 
And I see the past CKRAS success there...
2013-05-12 13:28
#11
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World bigb1rd 
Well played by CPH, looked really solid and consistent. fnatic played ok but they never all seem to play well for a whole tournament, or even a whole map. One game stingeR is great and trace plays shit, next map xyp is great but stingeR/MODDII both suck so they still lose. Anyway, predicted it: hltv.org/news/10661-the-blast-5-seeds-an.. WP xapso (coming right through lower bracket) and Eyes on you. Serverforge were unlucky not to finish a bit higher. Is this the correct top8?: 1 - CPH wolves 2 - fnatic 3 - Western Wolves 4 - xapso 5/6 - Eyes on You 5/6 - Serverforge 7/8 - Vikings 7/8 - eSpuma ?
2013-05-12 13:35
1 - CPH wolves 2 - fnatic 3 - Western Wolves 4 - xapso 5/6 - Eyes on You 5/6 - Serverforge 7/8 - Heroic eSport 7/8 - KS-Gaming Should be the correct. eSpuma went out against xapso in the second round of lowerbracket, same goes for Vikings against ServerForge.
2013-05-12 14:08
#39
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World bigb1rd 
Ah yeah that makes sense, couldn't quite figure it out. Cheers. Good for heroic, thought they ought to do ok with that lineup.
2013-05-12 14:12
Nah vikings 9-12, we won them and then they lost to serverforge :-)
2013-05-12 19:42
gj ! n1 .dk atm
2013-05-12 13:37
danish scene is really stronk
2013-05-12 13:37
gj guys,top top team
2013-05-12 13:37
Expected they are so dominant like were in source...and still are not in their source level..imagine when they be like in source..prepare for change of top2-3.
2013-05-12 13:40
+1 :D
2013-05-12 17:35
#117
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Denmark e1z 
+1 such a stronk lineup! :D
2013-05-12 23:27
#18
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World breezy0 
expected, gj!
2013-05-12 13:39
Saucers superior to 1.6 Nothing new.
2013-05-12 13:39
*sAucers superiour to 1.6 dont make mistakes the 1.6 community dont like grammar mistakes XD...nothing new btw CPH wolves are superiour in every way
2013-05-12 13:42
ok scrub thats why the team whos never lost a tournament is led by three 1.6 players. source was/is the biggest joke of CS history
2013-05-12 13:46
why do u hef to be mad ?
2013-05-12 13:50
#29
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
Never lost until recently..
2013-05-12 13:53
To 1.6'ers...grr
2013-05-12 15:11
4 times
2013-05-13 01:22
Was just pointing out them being 1.6'ers:)
2013-05-13 15:13
fail
2013-05-12 13:55
#32
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Denmark kaspeRztw 
cant remember the world top 10# But I think there is more source players/Teams than 1.6 But still 1.6 or source I don't care. Just hate people who says blah blah is better than blah blah
2013-05-12 13:56
#37
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Because there's more source teams than 1.6 teams lol! How about we consider top5? NiP VP WW VG ESC The only other teams with 1.6ers are Na`Vi, fnatic and mouz! You do realize that in 1.6 Sweden always had 3 good teams, now only 1 is left, others retired, Denmark always had at least 1 top notch team and a couple of other top10 teams...now they all retired except fnatic's players which went through a whirlwind of changes. Oh and I did not even mention Quantic and they're probably better than ESC and can go head to head against WW/VG!
2013-05-12 14:05
I think esc could be a bit opinion based... a long with ww based on their recent performances. Id certainly say nip / vg / vp top3. Id personally put cph wolves and seeing as how its going tcm may be a big contender in their current form
2013-05-12 14:14
#53
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Yep I agree that ESC is probably a little bit biased but #50 I think you also need WW in the same basket as VG, even though both teams had recent line-up changes! tbh a lot of teams look scary during their first games, mostly because teams aren't used to playing against them. After 1 tournament that changes.
2013-05-12 14:49
#46
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Denmark Sander 
ESC aren't even close to top5, just stop being fucking stupid..
2013-05-12 14:30
#51
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
#50 Thank you for your compliments :) I apologize I'm out of fucks to give.
2013-05-12 14:48
I'll share with you some <3
2013-05-12 18:10
#115
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
I'll give you some <3 back
2013-05-12 21:46
ESC in top 5? sure.
2013-05-12 14:38
#50
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Well nothing can be claimed about others since they do not have consistent line-ups! But most likely Quantic is top5!
2013-05-12 14:47
Quantic have a new line-up so I disagree
2013-05-12 19:37
Well, we have to wait a little bit to see how VG will be with shoxie, imo they are stronger than WW currently, also havent seen VP play in a long time, anyhow can't wait for DH Summer ( if thats the next big one ) :)
2013-05-12 15:59
#81
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Ever since RpK got dropped, VG have been performing worse and worse. I also think that they might be slightly better now considering the lack of good awpers atm, but that also cuts out the only advantage they had against most of the other teams, a decent true awper, so they'll kinda have to change some stuff. WW also changed a player so they need to be given some time too. You can even make an argument about Na`Vi here, since they have not participated at a lot of LAN tournaments. ESC is not winning tournaments as they usually do, but neither are WW/VG :) I don't think we need to doubt VP anymore. The last time they played the rocked NiP, and they were also silent before that :)
2013-05-12 17:55
Yes thats partialy true, but even with kennyS they played strats with 2 or even 3 awpers, so i think smithz could replace him decently, although kenny is a leagues of its own :)
2013-05-12 19:19
You forgot Germany where more ore less ALL 1.6 teams retired while all CSS teams switched to CS:GO. No wonder there are more CSS teams in the top...(though there were actually 2 CS 1.6 and 2 CSS teams in the CS:GO EPS final). Only a handful of 1.6 players started playing CS:GO. Plus: The current mousesports team wouldn't even have been a top10 team in CS 1.6, so I'm not surprised at all about their failure. Anyway: The niveau is so fucking low in Germany right now...no need to mention German CS anymore.
2013-05-12 16:32
#77
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
exactly! but it's meaningless to argue with dickheads :)
2013-05-12 17:41
#70
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Denmark kozality 
You mean: 1. Ninjas in Pyjamas (Three onepixelsixer and two Saucers) 2. Virtus.PRO (Five onepixelsixers) 3. VeryGames (Five Saucers) 4. Copenhagen Wolves (Five Saucers) 5. Western Wolves (Five Saucers) That is 17 Saucers and 8 onepixelsixers.
2013-05-12 17:21
#79
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
lol CHP Wolves win 1 tournament, LOCAL tournament mind you, and they are top5? Biggest bullshit ever! I think Quantic especially would like to disagree! And ESC have been doing better than all other wannabees that have had one good tournament and split up afterwards! So the math is going to be sth like 13 1.6ers vs 12 saucers, WITH the fact the best 2 teams have 8 1.6ers! Let me do some other math for you...No Lions(Lemondogs), no fnatic/SK(at least not Swedish), no mTw, no real mouz(this mouz is just a gathering of players that didn't retire), no alternate(1.6 alternate). No 2nd ukrainian team, with even Na`Vi slacking with practices and not participating at enough tournaments. Russians could have 1 more team, arguably with a similar skill-level as VP(oh trust me, ed1k and hooch were good, EXTREMELY good). When you look at a tournament other than invite only tournaments at all others there's at least 75% source teams! So you really have no arguments against 1.6 players here, because 2(almost) 1.6 teams are OWNING the scene, and the saucers have not won SHIT!
2013-05-12 17:49
Stop talking about Quantic, they disbanded, remember? They are lucky if they're top 10 anymore...
2013-05-12 17:57
#85
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Quantic still exists in one version and that line-up is also very promising and is probably going to be able to get in the 1/4 finals of any tournament(see how I'm not implying top5 since literally no team is deserving to solely occupy that spot). They have 3 players from earlier line-ups, if you apply that logic you can say the same about VG, they changed 2 players since the last time they actually reached a final.
2013-05-12 18:04
The Quantic you are talking about doesn't exist, Quantic is merely the company which sponsors the team. If we are talking about the new Quantic, then yes they look like they have a strong lineup but you can't say they are top 5. Like I said, they'd be lucky to get top 10. Curse have a much stronger team, and I believe they WILL get top 5.
2013-05-12 18:11
#94
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Don't you think I know that? 3 of Quantic's present player have played for Quantic in the past. Curse have done nothing to prove that they a strong team, 'stronger than Quantic' is out of the question. And as I said, apply the same logic to VG you cannot say that they're even a top3 team, since after dropping rpk they barely made it to one podium finish, and now they changed yet another player.
2013-05-12 18:53
"since after dropping rpk they barely made it to one podium finish, and now they changed yet another player." erm, they placed 3rd in Vienna, 3rd in EMS, 3rd in ESEA and 1st in Birmingham, i think they only placed outside of top3 at CPH. worse than with RpK, but that's still podium finishes.
2013-05-12 19:35
so the fact that CPH wolves won two lans vs WW (a top5 team) and fnatic (a decent team) quite comfortably doesn't make them top5, because two lans mean nothing. but somehow VP are #2 despite having won only one cup in which they almost lost to navi lol. wishful thinking from 1.6ers, just like always. also, ESC have done nothing in CSGO so far, they're most likely not even in top8.
2013-05-12 17:59
#88
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
You're one of those people who'd rather try to find a subliminal message in a text, than rather just understand what's FUCKING written. 2 tournaments? Am I missing something? WW just changed a player, give them a break. VP have never lost a bo3 to a team other than NiP,(WW and VG have beat them in a bo1 scenario, VG have only played them online). That's not a wishful thinking, they're the only team to come close and the only team to take a map, not 1, not 2 but 4 maps out of NiP, so they've got achievements to speak behind them. Why the fuck do people underestimate Na`Vi? Na`Vi have played on 2 real tournaments so far. CPH have never beaten VP/VG/NiP, they have not even placed high at an international LAN. Yes they beat WW, but every team has their own nemesis, take Na`Vi and mTw. mTw never beat Na`Vi but that doesn't mean mTw were not the better team at some point. Exactly ESC have done nothing, but they're always 1/4 finals or 1/2 finals depending on the tournament bracket. And if you apply that logic, neither have CPH done something, even WW/VG have not won shit yet.
2013-05-12 18:11
"Am I missing something?" yes you are... it's right on the frontpage you know... hltv.org/news/10666-cph-wolves-win-gamin.. hltv.org/news/10672-cph-wolves-win-the-b.. "VP have never lost a bo3 to a team other than NiP,(WW have beat them in a bo1 scenario," zzzzzzzz not this crap again. no one gives a flying fuck if it was a bo1 or bo3. the map score was 2:2 (2:1 in bo3 and 0:1 in bo1). there's ZERO evidence of VP being better than WW. not to mention that WW had beaten VP on the map they lost at in bo3. fair play to them for beating NiP, but that's not a reason to say they're above WW VG and the rest. it's pretty obvious that VP antistratted NiP a lot, and nip probably didn't even watch a single demo of VP. it's not like antistratting nip is impossible, ESC NaVi and n!faculty beat them online but still were shat on by just about everyone at lan. just because you beat nip at one LAN doesn't mean you're going to be shitting on everyone just like NiP.
2013-05-12 18:32
#92
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
I'm in no mood of arguing with you about VP. Cph still won local lans, nothing special.
2013-05-12 18:50
"Why the fuck do people underestimate Na`Vi? Na`Vi have played on 2 real tournaments so far." wrong again, they played at Vienna, starladder and techlabs (which had the same teams as starladder), they also lost to epsilon at CPH before pulling out of the tournament. and they're pretty crap even online. "CPH have never beaten VP/VG/NiP, they have not even placed high at an international LAN. Yes they beat WW, but every team has their own nemesis, take Na`Vi and mTw. mTw never beat Na`Vi but that doesn't mean mTw were not the better team at some point." that's some epic double standards here... VP ARE NiP's archnemesis, they're the most uncomfortable enemy for them, but just because they're the only team to give nip tough games doesn't mean they're going to beat those teams who get smashed 4:16 by NiP. all in all, either you admit CPH are in top5 and ESC are not, or you'll have to admit VP aren't #2. you can't really call a team top2 for placind 2nd at one lan (which didn't even have teams like WW VG etc) and at the same time refuse to call CPH a top5 team because they only beat a top5 team twice. "even WW/VG have not won shit yet." VG has god knows how many 2nd place finishes and they never placed outside of top4. WW placed 2nd in Vienna and CPH and had some other notable finishes. to compare them to ESC, whose only achievement is beating LDLC to place top4 at Vienna and beating n!faculty to place top4 @ ESEA is just... weird.
2013-05-12 18:52
#95
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
"2 real tournaments" - 3 would be more accurate ok Vienna was their first tournament. starladder and techlabs are bullshit, both tournament were very close, with the same teams participating and expectedly ALMOST same outcome. I'm not even sure we can talk about CPH here, worst organization of a tournament in a while(and there've been some pretty bad ones), while Na`Vi also deserves shitload of the blame. VP beat WW in a bo3, VP beat VG in a bo3, VP has beaten every team worth mentioning in a bo3 if you consider both lan/online. That's not double standards. I can admit that ESC don't have a strong case for a top5, but neither does any other team, it's just that ESC have participated at enough tournament to establish themselves as a tricky opponent to everyone not named NiP. I don't see anything wrong with the statement that WW/VG have not won shit yet? They haven't won a real international tournament yet(yeah blabla VG won at tour with no other contender). And I never claimed that ESC are better than VG/WW so I'm not comparing them, hence the stop trying to find subliminal message and read what's fucking written. That was an analogy, not a comparison!
2013-05-12 19:02
"They haven't won a real international tournament yet(yeah blabla VG won at tour with no other contender)." but then again no one bar nip has won a real international tournament yet. starladder with only 4 teams in attendance was hardly the most prestigious LAN. if we're talking about csgo achievements though, VG and WW have achieved so much more than ESC that it's not even worth discussing. you can't really place ESC at the same level as VG and WW. "VP beat WW in a bo3, VP beat VG in a bo3, VP has beaten every team worth mentioning in a bo3 if you consider both lan/online." they only beat VG online. let's not even start talking about online results, quite a few teams have beaten VP online :)
2013-05-12 19:56
Actually WW beat VP on lan, not the other way around. Get your facts right.
2013-05-12 21:27
VP beat WW on lan (in a BO3, 2:1) WW beat VP on lan (in a BO1)
2013-05-12 21:31
"all in all, either you admit CPH are in top5" Why the hell would they be top5?!? They failed hard at every international event. As long as they haven't proved themselves on international tournaments they shouldn't even be considered as a "international top5 team". You're pointing out that VP "only" won 1 international tournament and beaten the #1 in two BO3, so they shouldn't be the #2, but then again you put a team into your top5 that didn't have ANY success internationally. Logic where? "you can't really call a team top2 for placind 2nd at one lan" They won it. There are just aren't enough international tournaments in CS:GO to make clear rankings. It's a shame :( "Let's switch over to CS:GO so we have more tournaments than before" --> FAIL "Let's switch over to CS:GO so they EPS prize-money of CS 1.6 and CSS can be combined" --> We got less prize money than ever before --> FAIL :(
2013-05-12 19:15
"They won it." yea, i know, just a typo :) "They failed hard at every international event." afaik they only played at CPH, which was their first international LAN, where they played 10:16 10:16 with nip and lost 5:16 6:16 to WW. not something to be proud of, but you can clearly see an improvement, seeing as they're beating WW pretty comfortable now. not to mention they've just switched to csgo back then :) "You're pointing out that VP "only" won 1 international tournament and beaten the #1 in two BO3, so they shouldn't be the #2, but then again you put a team into your top5 that didn't have ANY success internationally. Logic where?" you missed my point completely :) i said either you call VP a top2 team but you also admit CPH are easily in top5, or you admit VP are on the same level as the rest of the top5 teams and say that CPH are outside of top5.
2013-05-12 19:26
there isn't many LANs indeed, but i hope everything will change when CSGO goes f2p (i hope it will, f2p is the way to go for esports, because it makes it easy to attract a lot of people). i think we only have DH Summer in upcoming months :(
2013-05-12 19:31
#131
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Denmark kozality 
You should probably consider, not being as offensive in your comments as you are. No one really gives much of a fuck when you are writing in the way you are. I'm not offensive to anyone, I'm just claiming the truth - whether you really like it or not. I will redo my top5 for you, because now I'm not fucked after LAN anymore(:D): 1. Ninjas in Pyjamas (Three onepixelsixer and two Saucers) 2. Virtus.PRO (Five onepixelsixers) 3. VeryGames (Five Saucers) 4. Copenhagen Wolves (Five Saucers) 5. Fnatic (1 Saucer and four onepixelsixers) Nevertheless the math is: 12 onepixelsivers and 13 Saucers. Regardless of your opinion this is - more or less - the truth of the current scene. I believe Copenhagen Wolves will be in top2 within a month of two. They have one of the best aimers in the world (probably top3) and then they have two or three who can compete in the top15. Plus they have one of the most organized in-game leaders around - imo., Xizt can go and pack his bags in a few months(this is my opinion, and you cannot argue it - don't even try, it's a waste of your time if you'll try) There can be made tons of argumentations for either teams, but this is, somewhat, the conclussion. To sum this up, we will have to wait for the next big tournament - DreamHack Summer - and see. The old, and much weaker, Copenhagen Wolves line-up made a fourth up there, I can't image how far they'll go at this.
2013-05-13 18:26
#133
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Feel free to call it offensive but it's a completely acceptable way of expression and because I'm actually basing my arguments on facts, trust me people do read it. It's the internet I don't give much of a damn if anyone cares or not :) Take out the 1.6 vs source discussion, we have way too few tournaments, very small sample size and when you weigh in other factors, everything but NiP being top1 can be challenged. I personally don't think that CPH are that strong, and even if they break into top5, you cannot really compare xizt to other igls. Xizt is a mixture of ave/carn type of igl, and even though he might have some flaws, he has shitload of upsides in comparison to other igls. He's kinda a unique igl atm and of course that does not make him the best or the worst and I'm not claiming any, but I think that h2h comparisions with him are pointless.
2013-05-13 19:18
#80
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World bigb1rd 
But then if you extend it to top10 (outside of NIP anyone seems to be able to beat anyone else on a good day anyway) then you could include: Na'Vi - 5 1.6 ESC - 5 1.6 fnatic - 4 or 5 1.6 (stingeR played a bit of both) Etc, which would start to balance it out a bit. Though obviously might be other source teams in there too like TCM, LDLC, Hawks, Anexis (bit of both) and so on. More source players have switched anyway.
2013-05-12 17:54
"More source players have switched anyway." yet another lie... let me count that for you: 1.6: ESC, NaVi, nip trio, hawks, mousesports, fnatic, virtuspro, k1ck, BERRY's team, epsilon (i guess they're from 1.6?), aL, znation, dynamic trio, quantic source: VG, LDLC, CPH, WW, Anexis, ALTERNATE, n!faculty (although i don't know which game their two new players used to play), TCM, SuperStars, frost, curse... i'll even include LLL, EYES ON YOU and lemondogs although they're obviously not on the level of the others. i fail to understand why you say that more source players switched to csgo. you should also remember that all major 1.6 teams (except for mtw) are still around, and they all receive quite large salaries, while i'm pretty sure teams like anexis, WW or CPH have no salaries at all (not sure about LDLC, i've seen quite a few LDLC posters in Paris, must be a huge company).
2013-05-12 18:21
#91
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World bigb1rd 
Why is everyone on here so angry and childish? I "think" (personally) that more source players have switched. In my fucking opinion there seem to be more known source players playing at a high level then there are known 1.6ers. But then I could be wrong and don't really care if I am. I have no idea what the salary thing has to do with anything I wrote.
2013-05-12 18:45
well, salaries decide exactly how much time you can spend on the game, and practicing a lot gives you a noticeable advantage over those people who only play like 15 praccs a week (although not as huge as in say SC2). also i'm pretty sure salaries were a huge factor for a lot of 1.6ers. without them, ESC/NaVi would've probably split up long ago, and VP wouldn't even exist. and if a salary was guaranteed, i'm pretty sure we'd see players like face, gux etc. sorry for replying like a prick, it's just that i'm tired of reading the same things over and over again so i overreact sometimes :)
2013-05-12 19:14
#97
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
There's always been a finish team in CS, but every no line-up without lurppis have ever achieved shit. No line-up without him has ever been top10. k1ck were never top10. mouz has a completely different line-up and it's core retired(roman,gob b). fnatic got screwed to make way for NiP, but yes they switched, albeit way too late. Berry's team was never really competitive if you exclude the last tournaments of 1.6 when there were almost no teams left. So to sum it up for you, out of the teams you included, ESC,Na`Vi and NiP trio and VP are relevant. Now let me tell you which teams didn't switch, - LIONS(Lemondogs) arguably a top5-6 team at the peak of 1.6 - M5 & KNET, M5 was a top5 capable of beating, even raping any other team with their ridiculous skill level. KNET was also killed to make way for VP. There was always a 2nd Russian/Ukrainian team able to beat just about anyone. mTw - Yes fnatic kinda succeeded them, but that fnatic team made the biggest mistakes of all, no true in game leader. Later acquired one not good enough, rollercoaster of changes. Alternate - In the last years, Alternate was competitive again, though hardly a top10 team. mousesports - mousesports died when karrigan switched, and the were probably a top6-7 team. WinFakt - the real finish deal, with lurppis, aslak, basic, top8 team. So not even half of the top50 players in 1.6 switched. Only about 20 of them did. SALARIES? HAHAHA Before forming NiP, heaton was caught talking with get_right about the salary he received from SK, 800E.
2013-05-12 19:18
"k1ck were never top10." as if i only included the teams that were top10 in source... of all the list, only VG, CPH and Anexis were really strong in source. ALTERNATE secured a surprising 2nd place finish at CPH 2012, but other than that, they were pretty average. also i could mention superstars and curse, but they only have 2-3 known source players. WW were average in source and n!faculty, TCM and LDLC were nowhere near top10, friberg and fifflaren didn't play for a top10 team. i could name a lot of good source players who were around in 11/12 and didn't switch to csgo (or switched and quit in like 1-2 months). Czech guys (php, pr, un, sneix) Finnish guys (angeldust, kononen, cisu, nashje, disturbed, zaikovski, samitsky etc) French guys (mK, victorz, RegnaM, crZ, krL, bistouflyyy, HysokA, Shokkk, MAS) Danish guys (gravity, pur1ty, h0lm, kev1n) others: helblinde, gem, wilzOOO, wez, hossa, haz etc that's just off top of my head, there's more. "Before forming NiP, heaton was caught talking with get_right about the salary he received from SK, 800E." i remember that. still, i'm pretty sure they receive at least twice as much in nip. of course i'm not 100% sure of that, but that's what i was told by a guy who hangs out with some of the nip players. and even if it's wrong, even 800 is pretty cool when combined with welfare.
2013-05-12 20:50
#113
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
If you think 800E is much you don't live in Sweden :) Even if you add the prize money they get, it's still laughable considering the time they put into this. But yeah, NiP probably get more than 800E now, however I doubt that's the case for other orgas, dunno much about VG,LDLC as orgas.
2013-05-12 21:45
KNET has switched. They're just not that good :)
2013-05-13 09:51
#132
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Denmark kozality 
Anexis and Western Wolves gets salaries. Not sure about the others. LDLC is a computer firm that is fairly big in France - just like Alternate is in Germany.
2013-05-13 18:28
#130
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Denmark kozality 
I agree. I'm not saying sAucers are better than onepixelsixers or anything - the facts will tell that, who are we to judge them? I mean, I don't care if one player is from another game than I played or not, if he's good at this game, who cares about his past then? I'm a sAucer but followed the 1.6 scene more than I did with Source. And I laid quite some money into the game as well(MoD at Copenhagen Games 2012 as an example). That's why, I'm getting so frustrated at the community - both of them actually - but to be fair the common comments are "1.6 better than sAuce" and then it happens from time to time than sAucers replies to those retarded comments :D It does happen that sAucers does the same thing although the majority of those comments comes from the "onepixelsixers" :D Whether or not more Source players have switched or not, doesn't really matter when it comes to top10. Who's fault is it in the end? This game came out on the right timing, when 1.6- AND Sourceplayers was about to quit. A new scene, a new era has started. I'm so excited about this scene at this stage, to all the Scandinavians: youtube.com/watch?v=2BDP3owm9TI
2013-05-13 18:17
agreed 100% with this... i'm essentially the only 1.6er out of the people i played with that still plays any version of CS anymore. i myself even lose motivation to play GO sometimes as it's just not as addicting or fun to play as 1.6 was.. i guarantee if you put a list of the recently retired professional 1.6 players and a list of the recently retired source players, the 1.6's list would triple, maybe even quadruple source's list.
2013-05-13 01:29
#41
Germany Dok1 
feed the troll! :D
2013-05-12 14:22
You seem upset
2013-05-12 14:37
Stop baiting, there's enough of that on this website. EDIT: To be clear, on both ends.
2013-05-12 14:30
gg
2013-05-12 13:51
#26
Serbia sALE 
Fnatic will be like top5-10 unless moddii goes back to only fragging.
2013-05-12 13:51
+1 him as IGL does not seem to be working very well. :/
2013-05-12 16:08
#74
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Denmark vnG 
Friis was IGL at this event, they have changed that some time ago :)
2013-05-12 17:25
I remember that cArn said that fnatic will be a top3 team within a month and that was about three months ago right now.
2013-05-12 14:01
Not his fault. fnatic showed big promise prior to the lineup change. Default strats and they won match after match. Wonder what happened thereafter.
2013-05-12 14:27
#75
Romania blg- 
They are top3.. in Denmark.
2013-05-12 17:30
replace trace friis..they were so bad in the final..fnatic would easily win if they're killing
2013-05-12 14:04
#71
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Denmark kozality 
I 100% agree. Although Friis and Trace have both been somewhat of a legend in Counter-Strike 1.6, things just isn't going their way in Global Offensive yet. They're too shaky - one map they're somewhat decent compared to other topplayers, and the next map; they suck.
2013-05-12 17:24
#42
Germany Dok1 
wantz&cajunb dreamteam :D
2013-05-12 14:22
So many stupid comments. fnatic did a very well job. Just stop talking about -sb, how stupid can you kids be?! Jesus Christ!
2013-05-12 14:28
Cph was on fire and both teams played very well. The finals were awesome to watch on stream.
2013-05-12 14:43
where is 3k2?
2013-05-12 14:49
kicked prior to device
2013-05-12 15:24
#54
Sunde | 
World sfu 
why u cant write line-ups in the news?
2013-05-12 14:58
well invested money for Vikings
2013-05-12 15:30
#59
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Netherlands c3i 
1.NiP 2.VG/VP 3.cph wolves
2013-05-12 15:31
pretty sure cph wolves will dominate NiP very soon
2013-05-12 16:17
#73
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Denmark kozality 
You will dominate them
2013-05-12 17:24
#65
India N3E 
fRISS WILL B REPLACED BY GuardiaN
2013-05-12 16:26
wantz stronk :D
2013-05-12 16:28
expected and gj CPH Wolves.
2013-05-12 17:46
dont fuck with the sAucers you little bitches
2013-05-12 19:29
say that to get_right's face and you'll have no teeth
2013-05-13 01:50
#124
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Australia TotalEclipse 
I don't think that pasty nerd would hit someone.
2013-05-13 05:25
he beat up my dad
2013-05-13 05:39
#126
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Australia TotalEclipse 
Fair enough then.
2013-05-13 06:00
;DDDDDDDDDD
2013-05-13 19:26
Cph wolves to beat NiP in near-future
2013-05-13 15:31
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