Nostalgie beat Na`Vi, win in Prague

lurppis
July 15th, 2013 00:31

Nostalgie have completed the biggest upset in CS:GO yet as they've defeated Natus Vincere 2-1 (7-16 de_inferno_se, 16-12 de_mirage_ce, 16-12 de_train_se) in the grand finals of Prague Challenge.

Na`Vi started the grand final of Prague Challenge well on de_inferno_se by winning the opening pistol round thanks to two kills by Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev. They followed it up with two anti-eco wins, going up 3-0.

Filip "Neo" Kubski's triple gave Nostalgie their first round, but just as his team were about to break Na`Vi's economy, Sukhariev and Yegor "markeloff" Markelov came through with a two-on-three retake in B.

That round shifted all the momentum over and the likes of Arseny "ceh9" Trynozhenko's triple kills on round seven helped Na`Vi run their lead to a whopping ten rounds with eight straight wins.

The mixteam then broke the Ukrainian side's defense two rounds in a row, including a round where Danilo "Zeus" Teslenko ran out of time on the bomb in a one-on-one. Teslenko & co won the final round however, leading 12-3 at half.

Despite losing Sukhariev early, Natus Vincere converted their pistol round to a win. Nostalgie saved once and lost the third round early buy, facing map point at 3-15 quickly in the second half.

starix before the grand final against Nostalgie

starix & co were confident heading into the grand final 

Some aggression including Dan "apEX" Madesclaire's middle push kept his team alive for a while, but ultimately Markelov was able to clutch a one-on-four situation to win his team the first map 16-7.

After switching to de_mirage_ce, Nostalgie gained two entry kills in the A site but double kills by Teslenko and Sergey "starix" Ischuk won Na`Vi the all important opening pistol round.

Markelov's ace made it 2-0, but the mixteam got back in the game by trading the next rounds and then winning two close encounters, including a one-on-one by Kenny "kennyS" Schrub in the B site.

Once again a retake gave Na`Vi all the momentum to run away with, as they retook the A site in a three-on-five situation to rally back in to the half which early on seemed a little dangerous for them.

The Ukrainians had Teslenko and Trynozhenko split the spot in round ten, Markelov win a one-on-one in round twelve and an AWPing Sukhariev get a triple in round thirteen, as they won seven straight rounds.

Kubski once again got a triple to win his team an odd round, but it made little difference in the half as Trynozhenko's triple got Na`Vi an 11-4 lead at half time on the second map.

OverDrive and ceh9 vetoing maps for the final

OverDrive's clutches helped Nostalgie win de_mirage_ce 

A double kill by both Frenchmen on Nostalgie won them the pistol round, and Birukov was able to beat Sukhariev in a one-on-one on Natus Vincere's third round early buy to make it 7-11.

Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas and Schrub's doubles made it 8-11, and Na`Vi had no chance until the game was tied at eleven each, when they finally won their first terrorist side round.

Little did they know it would be their last round, as Wojtas and Madesclaire scored double. Madesclaire then flanked the entire map for two, Birukov won a one-on-two and Schrub's quad kill won the map 16-12.

Final map de_train_se started with a Na`Vi pistol round win. Madesclaire then evened the game with a great ace including a headshot on Teslenko in a one-on-one situation.

Markelov and Teslenko won a two-on-four with the bomb planted outside to keep Na`Vi in the lead as they rallied to make it 5-2, but that's when the Ukrainian side ran into trouble.

Practically everyone on Nostalgie started hitting shots and their individual skill allowed them to continuously get picks all over the map, resulting in five straight round wins, an impressive feat as terrorists on de_train_se.

apEX after Nostalgie's map two win against Anexis

apEX had reasons to celebrate once again on de_train_se 

Na`Vi were able to snatch the next two rounds even though they came down to the wire, but were once again picked apart on the final round as Nostalgie changed side with a narrow 8-7 lead.

Switching to the easier side of the map the mixteam was now favored, and winning the pistol round plus the two save rounds from Na`Vi allowed them to jump up to an 11-7 lead.

An outside attack won Na`Vi their eighth round, but Madesclaire's flank all across the map to inner gave him three kills and a round. Individual play from the favorites then allowed them to sneak back into the game.

First Teslenko and Sukhariev combined for four to make it 9-12, followed up by Sukhariev's triple and Nostalgie's save round as they cut their deficit to just one at 11-12.

Na`Vi were then completely shut down outside and another triple by Madesclaire made it 14-11, followed up by a hat trick from Wojtas to give them four match points in the grand final.

Teslenko was able to win the first of them in a one-on-one versus Birukov, but fell short next round versus Schrub in a similar one-on-one after some clever play, and Nostalgie were able to win the map 16-12, 2-1 overall.

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 Nostalgie K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
France Dan 'apEX' MadesclaireapEX 72 - 53 +19 - 1.33
France Kenny 'kennyS' SchrubkennyS 64 - 54 +10 - 1.15
Poland Filip 'NEO' KubskiNEO 52 - 59 -7 - 0.90
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' WojtasTaZ 51 - 54 -3 - 0.89
Russia Alexey 'OverDrive' BirukovOverDrive 30 - 48 -18 - 0.68
 Natus Vincere K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelovmarkeloff 59 - 50 +9 - 1.20
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' SukharievEdward 65 - 56 +9 - 1.13
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' TeslenkoZeus 55 - 58 -3 - 0.97
Ukraine Sergey 'starix' Ischukstarix 47 - 52 -5 - 0.93
Ukraine Arseny 'ceh9' Trynozhenkoceh9 41 - 54 -13 - 0.79

 Nostalgie K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
France Dan 'apEX' MadesclaireapEX 72 - 53 +19 - 1.33
France Kenny 'kennyS' SchrubkennyS 64 - 54 +10 - 1.15
Poland Filip 'NEO' KubskiNEO 52 - 59 -7 - 0.90
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' WojtasTaZ 51 - 54 -3 - 0.89
Russia Alexey 'OverDrive' BirukovOverDrive 30 - 48 -18 - 0.68
 Natus Vincere K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelovmarkeloff 59 - 50 +9 - 1.20
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' SukharievEdward 65 - 56 +9 - 1.13
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' TeslenkoZeus 55 - 58 -3 - 0.97
Ukraine Sergey 'starix' Ischukstarix 47 - 52 -5 - 0.93
Ukraine Arseny 'ceh9' Trynozhenkoceh9 41 - 54 -13 - 0.79

Prague Challenge final standings:

1. Europe Nostalgie - 5,000€
2. Ukraine Natus Vincere - 3,000€
3. United Kingdom Anexis - 2,000€
4. Czech Republic nEophyte
5-8. Poland ALSEN
5-8. Sweden embrace
5-8. Poland GF-Gaming
5-8. Czech Republic eEriness

Stay tuned for the final batch of photos from day two at Prague Challenge, set to be uploaded very soon.

that's how random GO is: overdrive's mix, with zero communication, can beat a TOP 3 team gg overdrive, the most "valuable" player. literally.
2013-07-15 00:31
LOL@NAVI in top 3 theyre 6th at best
2013-07-15 00:32
top 3? hahahaaaaaaaa alsmost broke my chair but good one. wrong reply btw i was refering to Thales
2013-07-15 00:39
please enlighten me with an* updated list of top 50 teams and their line-ups master
2013-07-15 00:51
1. nip 2. everyone else not including navi 3. navi only way navi can be top3
2013-07-15 01:28
LOL this! :D
2013-07-15 13:27
lol, so true.
2013-07-16 04:06
#433
ruuit | 
Serbia Wule123 
-ceh9 +over drive definitely top3
2013-07-15 15:27
NaVi is not a top3 team. Not one bit close to being one
2013-07-15 00:32
#73
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China Specster 
kennys > marik awp apex > navi skill neo is neo taz is taz overdrive is.... \(o.o)/ raise your OverDrive \(o.o)/
2013-07-15 00:37
The last sentence did it xD
2013-07-15 00:49
lol xd
2013-07-15 01:10
dongers!
2013-07-15 01:41
#243
Poland MJP 
agree with all , kannys apex huge skill , Neo is Neo Taz is Taz - overdrive great funny guy - gg well done - gg NAVI
2013-07-15 01:41
Victory seems legit
2013-07-17 14:50
"zero communication" - NOPE NaVi top3 - VERY NOPE :)
2013-07-15 00:37
my bad. they were always saying "NICE! NICE!"
2013-07-15 00:47
#123
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
huh? how is navi better than VG VP NIP? and then Id like to see them prove they're consistently better than both wolves teams, fnatic, esc, imaginary, etc.
2013-07-15 00:42
i should've said top 10, i forgot how people get mad when they disagree lol didn't NaVi just topped NP? didn't fnatic droped?
2013-07-15 00:46
#179
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
True and probably esc aswrll, but still 1 win in a tournament where NiP was already taken out of the equasion by vp doesn't mean top3 imo, 4th or 5th is say For me VG NiP and vp are top, and then ww and navi I'm not mad I just wanted to hear your argumentation for navi top3
2013-07-15 00:53
i've no argumentation :D just a bait that was hugely bitten
2013-07-15 00:55
#348
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
XD Now I'm angry ;)
2013-07-15 09:07
"just a bait"... Always the same stuff. Some guy posts something stupid, gets bashed for it and then claims it was trolling.
2013-07-15 10:00
+1
2013-07-15 16:00
+1 This is how call of duty go rolls!!
2013-07-15 00:43
NAVI are not even top 5...
2013-07-15 00:53
lol even if they were a TOP 3 after not being able to take here 1st place which was a MUST for NaVi expesially when it was their chance since there's no real TOP teams like VG, VP, NiP etc then theay are obviously back to somewhere TOP 5 to 10...
2013-07-15 00:56
lol overdrive the lowest player in this LAN..
2013-07-15 02:33
navi top 3 ? ROFLLLLLL
2013-07-15 02:39
+1
2013-07-15 03:13
Yea cause NiP could have dominated for as long as they did if the game was random. Random games definitely have streaks close to a year where only one team wins. Random is obviously a synonym for "consistent".
2013-07-15 07:54
You underestimated this roster like navi and others did.
2013-07-15 09:46
I love those comments stating that game is random. Please explain me, because I'm unable to figure it out by myself, what factors do you use to decide if the game is random?
2013-07-15 11:13
who said na'vi was top 3? are you mental?
2013-07-16 01:41
This is proof that CS doesn't need igl, nor overcomplicated tactics or communication. It's all about individual skill, luck and chemistry.
2013-07-15 00:31
and all this is called RANDOMNESS. welcome to CSGO ;)
2013-07-15 00:40
Lol. I think you underestimate how good these players from Nostalgie are, and Na'Vi aren't the team they were in 1.6 @ 2010 (yet). They are struggling internally, people getting mad over arguments etc...-*
2013-07-15 00:52
#199
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Venezuela Riikards 
Nonetheless it was just a mixteam, no tactics. Na'Vi should've won that
2013-07-15 01:01
Who needs tactics when you have french berserks
2013-07-15 01:18
frenchtoo strong exactly the same with buykey when they went to prague and got like 10 hours in 2 weeks + 2 last. (Scream as stand in)
2013-07-15 03:36
chris:D u should know the fact I know them well,and this post wasnt about certain mix,it was about whole CSGO.
2013-07-15 13:31
If not a single mixteam ever won an international tournament in CS 1.6 this comment would have made sense.
2013-07-15 11:14
well, this is also true:D
2013-07-15 13:32
This tournament was not a major one though and it didn't have most of the good teams. Na'Vi has been very inconsistent throughout their time in GO so im not that surprised that this win was possible
2013-07-15 18:24
dont touch cs. it's all about GO. in CS this mix will never win
2013-07-15 03:50
i agree with rubber. maybe csgo is different to others cs :/
2013-07-15 07:34
epic final <3
2013-07-15 00:32
#11
Pieter | 
Netherlands Grifte 
NOSTALGIE NOSTALGIE NOSTALGIE Overdrive legend, kind and modest guy, respect!
2013-07-15 00:32
+200
2013-07-15 00:37
+1
2013-07-15 05:11
+1
2013-07-15 14:17
ggggggggggggggggggg Navi go home!
2013-07-15 00:32
Neo and TaZ couldn't get even to a top3 with ESC. Now they've won a tournament with mix
2013-07-15 00:32
They won SLTV StarSeries IV and came second at NorthCon 2012.
2013-07-15 00:37
#18
yxo | 
Ukraine piratz0r 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL OVERDRIVE > world
2013-07-15 00:32
WOO! nice win nostalgia.. everyone had good frags on nostalgia
2013-07-15 00:32
overdrive mvp!
2013-07-15 00:44
This shows how random this game is..mix team beating up everyone..apEX"just headshot everyone and we can win" LOL LOL LOL
2013-07-15 00:33
maybe navi and anexis are just bad?
2013-07-15 00:39
#128
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China Specster 
random? random would be if YOU could do that headshots like apex, he is a monster, much better than starix... kennys awp is better than marik, neo and taz are better than ceh9 and edward, and overdrive is much worse than anyone, but they still managed to win since APEX is godlike. It's not random, it's skill.
2013-07-15 00:43
it shows more of how good game sense these players actually have in order to free style like that. Sure you can call it random if you want, i would call it the way of sports. You can see things like this happen in every sport out there and imo it has nothing to do with the game being broken/random.
2013-07-15 00:44
+1. Good players don't make a game random.
2013-07-15 00:52
Yeah even if you don't have set tactics it's still squad based teamplay. Improvising.
2013-07-15 01:57
APEX - "JUST KILL AND SHOOT, AND WE CAN WIN"
2013-07-15 00:33
exactly, pure skill nothing more is needed in CS:GO
2013-07-15 00:37
Still amazing matches
2013-07-15 00:39
nothing more is needed in any cs version LOL
2013-07-15 01:15
stupid.
2013-07-15 02:41
how?
2013-07-15 05:12
navi so bad.
2013-07-15 00:34
anexis xD?
2013-07-15 00:34
go sleep lurpis
2013-07-15 00:34
i wish, far too tired. fixed the mistakes now :D
2013-07-15 00:35
Hahaha screenshots everywhere for sure
2013-07-15 00:37
it was fun to read this :D
2013-07-15 00:39
I hope you enjoyed the match!
2013-07-15 00:40
Dat shit cray
2013-07-15 00:35
#49
Poland weg 
wtf?
2013-07-15 00:35
Overdrive is going home really happy i bet ;) haha
2013-07-15 00:35
Dont worry guys, its fixed now :D
2013-07-15 00:35
apex BEASTMODE; just wow
2013-07-15 00:36
Nice match, but it was predictable that navi, nostalgie or anexis win.
2013-07-15 00:36
NAVI NEED WIN!
2013-07-15 00:36
#62
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Denmark jjh 
sick
2013-07-15 00:36
#63
Serbia pdbt 
2013-07-15 00:36
!!!
2013-07-15 00:38
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 00:40
wtf does it mean? :D
2013-07-15 06:35
Just raise it my friend (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 11:58
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 12:24
good boy.
2013-07-15 12:47
#68
Finland vLee 
GeT_OvERDRiVE
2013-07-15 00:37
#70
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United States criimson 
UHM someone needs to fix this article... what the hell lurp?? :C
2013-07-15 00:37
so tired i forgot to change the stuff i always fill in pre-emptively so assuming i guess right i can save some time and go to sleep a little earlier. should be all fixed now.
2013-07-15 00:39
#120
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United States criimson 
Thank you! It was kinda weird because you obviously are not the type of guy to put on a joke like that on purpose it's all good now =)
2013-07-15 00:42
gg wp haha, so awesome, hopefully more of these star mixes in csgo, was very fun to watch1
2013-07-15 00:37
#79
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Poland kRAMERO 
Nostalgie like NoA in early 1.6 days:D
2013-07-15 00:37
#138
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
overdrive = xeqtr or elemeNt? xD
2013-07-15 00:44
#143
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Poland kRAMERO 
knoxville=D
2013-07-15 00:46
#183
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
That's 1.5 time mate ;)
2013-07-15 00:55
#197
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Poland kRAMERO 
he played for NoA @ 1.6 bro ;) noa doesnt exist at 1.5
2013-07-15 01:01
#350
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
Are you sure? THe first bsl team was .6? Then I rrmember it way wrong
2013-07-15 09:08
eol 1.5 noa 1.6
2013-07-15 16:55
#467
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
ah ok thanks :>
2013-07-15 23:01
Not surprised to see 2 CS:Source players dominate the stats, superior aim will always be superior.
2013-07-15 00:38
not surprised either to see 2 cs:source players be really good in a source engine game
2013-07-15 00:38
CS GO does not run off the source engine.
2013-07-15 00:51
what? lol
2013-07-15 00:54
Not sure if troll or...
2013-07-15 00:54
portal source engine..tOmato tomAto gyazo.com/dd3c2071206afa8de9d35e1764badc..
2013-07-15 00:54
idiot spotted
2013-07-15 09:21
judging by the amount of sense that you make, i can safely assume you're russian. dota2 is also a source engine game. BRB winning TI3
2013-07-15 02:51
comparing fps to moba, GooD j0b
2013-07-17 23:58
exactly. you have no idea what a game engine is. L4D and TF2 are both source engine shooters, and, guess what, they are nothing like CSGO.
2013-07-18 21:39
thats the most disturbing shit i've read in a while.
2013-07-15 02:44
f0rest and GTR would disagree
2013-07-15 07:40
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 00:39
#193
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 00:58
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 01:48
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 05:16
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 11:59
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 13:15
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 13:46
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 14:37
Nostalgie very good job!<3 Na'vi suck!
2013-07-15 00:38
Is this real life?
2013-07-15 00:38
apex was so fokin confident jk, thanks to overdrive for bringing us these amazing games
2013-07-15 00:38
#85
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Canada rdss 
NA VI na dno :D good job ;) MIX win agains proof ;) !!!
2013-07-15 00:38
ok. Na'Vi* won* against* prof* or you would be better off with "professionals" OR in this context you should prefer the word "team", because apex, kennys, neo, taz are all professionals. P.S. "proof" means -> thefreedictionary.com/proof . I hope this helps you in future.
2013-07-15 01:00
Insane by apEX, but i also thought TAZ and Neo did very well in this match so apex/kennyS did not necessary carry them :)
2013-07-15 00:38
Nostalgie is best! Salo is off!
2013-07-15 00:38
D: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2013-07-15 00:39
Na,vi,,stop,play,dota!:D,see,in,dreamhack,Romania,.,vs,NiP,,CHW,,vp.:D
2013-07-15 00:39
Haha thanks Nostalgie for a great finale.. Apex MVP for sure!
2013-07-15 00:40
#94
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Sweden BenneDoT 
Some of the shots Neo fired looked like little masterpieces, scattered, silencing navi and their chances. They all played great btw. HS!
2013-07-15 00:42
NaVi has shown great improvement, that is what should be emphasized in each event happens
2013-07-15 00:39
+1
2013-07-15 00:41
+1 They've managed to come from the lowest ranked teams in most tournaments to the top 3 of the world by now.
2013-07-15 00:41
top3 world? what rofl? NiP, VG, VP are top3, NaVi are nowhere near them.
2013-07-15 01:15
Legendary mix. And nEophyte lost to Anexis just because they couldn't stop laughing after watching Anexis 1-16 on inferno against Nostalgia. P.S. Rumour has it Overdrive is writing a book "CS:GO for dummies".
2013-07-15 00:41
Well played by Nostalgie, gl in future guys. Hope to see you again in lan
2013-07-15 00:41
OVERDRIVE MVP
2013-07-15 00:41
apex 2 fucking awesome haha
2013-07-15 00:41
#109
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Venezuela xoile 
cmon ESC just sing overdrive for manager.
2013-07-15 00:41
Nostalgie!!! Every player from that mix had great individual moments Such fun to watch
2013-07-15 00:41
Expected win! Won 200$ woohoo! Time to drink! But in reality this was Na`Vi's chance (even though there was no VP, VG, NiP) in here which means they even had more chances of winning it and proove to the world their awesome Starladder performance in Kiev was not just bout randomness and home base supporters, but still they managed to lose this one to a mix-team. I still expected Nostalgie to win, but I wouldnt be obviously surprised if NaVi won that, but now I can only laugh and basically their Starladder performance can not be forgotten and they're back in the back of the reanking list :( gl in the future
2013-07-15 00:41
Apex destroyed na'vi on train. Neo was playing great but they kept rushing the B site and owning him on train :p kennys awp shot on train to save the round was so epic, this mix played awesome, thabks overdrive ;D
2013-07-15 00:41
#127
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
That was just sickest game iv ever see in CSGO :D I was sooooooooooooooo excited, thank you GUYS TAZ<3 NEO<3 OverDrive<3 apex<3 kennyS<3
2013-07-15 00:43
Even with OverDrive they were able to win the tournament... impressive.
2013-07-15 00:43
OverDrive won the inferno for Nostalgie, so...no need to say "they won even with OverDrive" as well as he won a numerous 1v1 / 1v2 today....deserved!
2013-07-15 00:46
Yeah :D
2013-07-15 00:47
Lol just because he only got 100hours doesn't mean he is total dog shit in the game. He played A LOT of 1.6 and remember the CS:GO we play now isn't so different from 1.6 as 6/12 months ago..
2013-07-15 00:59
well, just because he only got 100 hours and still win this event mean for me, that he's supposed to be fucking insane if he keep playing this game :D
2013-07-15 01:17
he is not bad player
2013-07-15 01:06
lol
2013-07-15 00:47
#169
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
over 9000
2013-07-15 00:52
#177
Poland rvT 
hahahahaha
2013-07-15 00:53
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 02:22
hahahaha Nostalgie force!
2013-07-15 03:13
The biggest upset in csgo yet? Aha fuck off...
2013-07-15 00:44
current metagame: only aim. Nostaglie, Epsilon, WW etc. NiP also relies a lot on aim, but they have abit more advanced tactics
2013-07-15 00:44
And you think this was different in 1.6? Maybe in Source it was more about "tactics" than individual skill, because flashes were so fucking OP.
2013-07-15 01:00
well, in 1.6 it wasn't aim-dependent as in go. You just couldn't pick 4(-5) sick aimers from different countries and win against Na'vi in a bo3. In the late days of 1.6 yeah maybe, but teamplay was important. Fnatic picked 5 sick aimers and it worked out, but could you give some more examples? I'm sure this lineup, if we replace apex with moddii and kennyS with Delpan, would not win against Na'vi in a bo3. So yes, i really think it was different in 1.6. In source i have no clue
2013-07-15 01:08
In my opinion that comparison doesn't make much sense and is an insult to the work Na'Vi has put in becoming (one of) the best 1.6 teams:)
2013-07-15 01:19
Yeah, if I remember correctly Na'vi played 12 hours each day before some event in 1.6?:P I think markeloff said in some interview recently that they practiced around 8(?) hours / day. Not sure if they also practiced the same before this tournament, but still. It showed how important aim is. You just couldn't play like Epsilon or WW did in 1.6. The metagame in 1.6 was alot of slow play (like nip are doing). Like apex said, they just played for themselves and relied 100% on their aim. That would probably never work in 1.6. In the end it relied alot on aim aswell, but teamplay & tactics had a bigger impact
2013-07-15 01:31
apex u are beast sir.
2013-07-15 00:44
How comes Navi just won a BO3 against VP and won 3 maps (mirage and train) against NiP and then loses (on mirage and train) against a mix-team, containing two ESC-players (poor results since months), two LDLC-players (some weeks ago they dropped out against the fnatic-team that got released now) and 1 guy who only has like 100hrs in CS:GO and was only mediocre in 1.6. What does this say about CS:GO? A mix team with 0 strats and 0 communication winning against known teams like Navi and Anexis who practice. Imagine Navi would have lost in 1.6 against a mix containing Neo, TaZ, MAJ3R, sixer and OverDrive...
2013-07-15 00:45
#154
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Poland kRAMERO 
yeah true, it would never happen. specialy if gets about 5k euros ^^
2013-07-15 00:48
+1 exactly. how much truth is there in statements which state that tactical factors are important in CS:GO? dont be mad but cs1.6 > cs GO( if its about tactics) but CS;S still more tactical anyway! peace out every1 n goodnight.
2013-07-15 00:51
cs:s is shit anyways !
2013-07-15 13:21
navi suck in go for now...
2013-07-15 00:52
They probably had some semi decent tactics since for example NiP plays like that every single tournament. So it's not really a surprise. They just out aimed Na'Vi who are seem to be more and more mediocre every tournament they play. They were maybe a top team in 1.6 which is debatable, but right now they aren't event top 10
2013-07-15 00:56
But they also beat VP, which have a very hard type of playing-style to creat anti-strats for. And VP proved many times to be a top-team.
2013-07-15 00:58
When they skipped so many tournaments this year as well as last year, it's not really that hard to think of antistrats for certain team. Na'Vi are the exact opposite of VeryGames. They don't have their style of play and when a random team manages to out aim them, they lose
2013-07-15 01:08
"They don't have their style of play and when a random team manages to out aim them, they lose" What the fuck... First of all: Navi has their own style. That's for sure. In 1.6 they were the guys who revolutionized the dust2 CT play and a lot of other things. Their original "style" just doesn't work in CS:GO anymore. Second of all: VeryGames got out-aimed by NiP for 10 months and till this day they couldn't even win a single map. It's not like NiP had the better strats, NiP literally outplayed them with raw skill.
2013-07-15 01:12
CS 1.6 was around for over a decade. It's hilarious how you're stating that they were the first one's to actually do anything in the game. They probably watched some old demos from old teams and did the same exact thing which sounds more reasonable then what you are saying since all Na'Vi do is antistart. Also VeryGames added shoxie not a while ago so saying that they got out aimed for 10 months straight when they went to multiple overtimes is not really fair
2013-07-15 01:25
"how you're stating that they were the first one's to actually do anything in the game" What the fuck...I never said that. I said that in 2010 they revolutionized the way people played CT side of dust2. And that's true. "They probably watched some old demos from old teams and did the same exact thing which sounds more reasonable." I'm following CS since 2001 and no, there really hasn't been a team before playing it that way. It's like when Alternate aTTax or wNv (people still argue who was the first) started playing a offensive T side on inferno in 2005.
2013-07-15 01:44
I remember when Rambo from Team 3D was playing for WinOut.net which was around 2010 and had a certain strat for taking banana on de_inferno. The point of that start was rushing and coordinating flashes perfectly while rushing. I would post you a video which is probably still on winout.net so you would have a better clue about what I'm talking, but since I'm too lazy I won't be doing that. The point I'm at trying to say is that he "revolutionized" or change the way people should take B site on de_inferno without any real casualties. But how does that change the fact that fnatic did the same strat much earlier and he just took it and did his own way? The whole point I was talking about in #235
2013-07-15 02:09
Pretty sure it was mouz in 2008/9 who came up with that banana-rush. Actually it was the invention of gob b. Afaik fnatic just copied it. Though I'm not 100% sure about it anymore "The point I'm at trying to say is that he "revolutionized" or change the way people should take B site" No he didn't. At least not in the international/European scene. Maybe he made it popular in America, dunno about that. But in the international scene he didn't made any change by that. "But how does that change the fact that fnatic did the same strat much earlier and he just took it and did his own way?" The thing is: mouz/fnatic came up with it and other people (like Rambo) started to copy it. THEY have revoluionzened how CS is played. Navi did the same in 2010 with their CT play on dust2. Anyway: Saying Navi had no own style is just stupid. In 2010 everyone was watching their demos and trying to copy their "style".
2013-07-15 02:35
Of course you're not sure about it since you don't even know about what video/strat I'm talking so you're just speculating which leads me to believe that you have no actual clue about what you're trying to talk in general. I don't even know why did you bothered quoting me for the second time since I was talking about how he remade that strat for either NA scene to use or just for people who paid money to watch videos on winout.net since it was a tutorial based website. The third part is just you disagreeing with yourself since like I said, Na'Vi basically copies what other people do and you just came up with the "revolutionizing" crap so you don't have to agree with me. And I can't imagine a team who started playing together in 2010 and not copying what other people do before them. This just proves my point without arguing any further
2013-07-15 03:26
"Of course you're not sure about it since you don't even know about what video/strat I'm talking so you're just speculating which leads me to believe that you have no actual clue about what you're trying to talk in general." I guess you talk about the 5-flashes-2smokes-rush, because that's the only thing that came close to "revolutionizing" the banana-gameplay during the past 5 years. But even if you mean something else: Doesn't matter because there's nothing else that changed the way people play banana since 2008, and there's definitely nothing from Rambo after 2008 that changed CS on an international level. "I don't even know why did you bothered quoting me for the second time" Because you obviously have no fucking idea what it mean to "invent" something and "revolutionize" the way CS is played on a high level. Teaching some local noobs stuff they don't know is NOT what we're talking about. "The third part is just you disagreeing with yourself since like I said, Na'Vi basically copies what other people do and you just came up with the "revolutionizing" crap so you don't have to agree with me" Seriously, how fucking stupid are you? Like I already told you: Navi didn't just copy it. They were the FIRST who came up with that. They INVENTED it. Disagreeing with myself? Can't you fucking read? I said that other teams tried to copy what NAVI just INVENTED in 2010. "And I can't imagine a team who started playing together in 2010 and not copying what other people do before them" Did anyone said that everything Navi did in 2010 was completely new? Of course not. No team has a play-book containing only new unique stuff. Everyone learns from previous/others team. Otherwise your team would have to start where people began in 2001. But from time to time some teams come up with some completely new stuff (what doesn't mean all they do from that day on will be completely new), and if that stuff works out other teams have to think about how to anti-strat it and they will of course try to copy it. Just accept the fact that Navi came up in 2010 with certain stuff we've never seen before and that changed the way CS was played in the following 2-3 years.
2013-07-15 03:54
i'm honestly sick and tired of noobs claiming no one had their own style or came up with anything new simply because the game and maps were old. surely some people ran similar strats years ago, but it's the little twists that the casual viewer (read: you in this scenario) probably doesn't even realize that make all the difference. na`vi had a very specific playing style in 1.6 and that's a fact. rambo throwing some flashes in banana has nothing to do with this; na`vi was a much superior strategic team in comparison all of rambo's cs career, and you couldn't have come up with a more generic example than some flashes in banana. clever things people created are minor adjustments like na`vi's wcg 2010 grand final strat where starix and edward rush lower ramp on train after smoking under pop, threat's b take on inferno where they flash in two sets and have their people run in blinded (in the first wave) by their own flashes, or the way zeus used to kill people jumping out of big pit from halls on inferno after a b fake to gain control of the a site. these are all minor things you probably wouldn't even notice. na`vi definitely had their own playing style, and no, it doesn't mean they just copied others. having ran something once in the past =! making it popular at the top level, which is all that matters in the end.
2013-07-15 08:21
they were definitely a top team in 1.6
2013-07-15 08:27
Actually it's not that hard imagining Neo, Taz, majer, sixer and overdrive beating Na'Vi in 1.6. Dat skill!! Besides, I don't even this that this Nostalgie lineup had more firepower/skill than Na'Vi. IMO, Na'Vi got cocky and Nostalgie capitalized on it and rolled them over.
2013-07-15 09:06
this No including NaVi expected them to be real threat. Especially after first map they probably got too relaxed and... paid the price. I wonder if the same happened to Anexis (also started with first map won).
2013-07-15 16:57
wow
2013-07-15 00:45
well... i guess somebody is going to drink to drink 'till death tonight.
2013-07-15 00:46
1) Force kennyS to tell you that he win the second map. 2) Let him do it :D
2013-07-15 00:46
lost the first bo3 map three times? NO PROBZZZZZ NOSTALGIE
2013-07-15 00:47
have to say one of the best grand finals in csgo ive watched ! but on a side note who is overdrive ? was he a 1.6 / css player ? (/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 00:47
He was a semi pro 1.6 player
2013-07-15 00:48
Ah now everything makes sense !
2013-07-15 00:50
He wasn't a semi-pro but a professional. He has huge experience in 1.6.
2013-07-15 07:03
wake up fat american boy overdrive pro 1.6 player not semi
2013-07-15 07:54
don't need to call names.
2013-07-15 09:34
just wOw...wOOOOOOw
2013-07-15 00:48
overdrive > joelz!
2013-07-15 00:48
unreal unbelievable together jan pol' belmondo
2013-07-15 00:48
I don't believe this, Nostalgie beating Navi is just....wow
2013-07-15 00:49
#161
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Romania HAZAR:D 
A M A Z I N G m a d a f a k a r
2013-07-15 00:49
the most amazing final i've seen is csgo so far!!! and probably the first final that i can watch through :D
2013-07-15 00:51
#186
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
this, I share your feelings :D +1337
2013-07-15 00:56
#168
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China Specster 
2013-07-15 00:52
#192
Poland rvT 
"Zajebiscie!; Brawo kurwa!" Most Polish words, I'm speechless :D
2013-07-15 00:58
n1
2013-07-15 00:58
#171
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Denmark Sander 
mixteam and with overdrive with -18 they still beat them. wtf navi :D
2013-07-15 00:52
What an amazing game that was !!!
2013-07-15 00:53
#189
Xizt | 
Bulgaria HellRose 
gg :D
2013-07-15 00:57
NaVi saved strats :D
2013-07-15 00:58
they trained nuke
2013-07-15 01:20
well ... everything i can say is (/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 01:01
NaVi are back at the bottom of the ranking list after such a fail... Everyone can now officially forget their Starladder performance! It's nothing to talk about anymore since they couldnt set it in stone taking the 1st place at this event. gl in the future
2013-07-15 01:02
gj
2013-07-15 01:05
Well, sad that NaVi lost in a final. Now they know that they have to change something in their trainings, something is really wrong there. I see only one good reason in their lose, they will not have additional pressure from fans on Dreamhack. Congratulations to OverDrive, finally he won international lan, but unfortunetaly not under the Russian flag.
2013-07-15 01:05
• World Cyber Games 2009 1. AGAiN - ($35.000) 2. fnatic - ($18.000) 3. mTw - ($10.000) 4. CMAX.gg 5-8. Millenium 5-8. TyLoo 5-8. k23 5-8. Power Gaming 9-16. HellRaisers 9-16. H2k-Gaming 9-16. Parallax 9-16. wNv.cn 9-16. DuskBin 9-16. Evil Geniuses 9-16. Turmoil 9-16. TeG OverDrive semi-pro ? 4th at WCG 2009 and he have more achievments .. and is semi-pro? ok xD
2013-07-15 01:06
What was the line-up of CMAX.gg then? Wasn't that a Finnish team ? o_O (Didn't follow the scene back then)
2013-07-15 01:09
nop, Russian team :) hltv.org/?pageid=28&&eventid=455&demoid=.. wrong lineup, overdrive didnt play at WCG :| but he have some good achievments with forZe ..
2013-07-15 01:12
It was a Russian team but OverDrive wasn't a part of it. It was: HEL1, F_1N, Dober, Dosia, Fox
2013-07-15 01:13
Momentum carry this Team (hearing them shoutings etc.. ) I was sure they were gonna win. Thumbs me UP !
2013-07-15 01:08
what a guy said "A mix team could have done damage at the beginning of 1.6... People needs to realise that the meta-game of CS:GO will change to a point where tactics are vital to teams..."
2013-07-15 01:09
I think he meant at the beginning of Counter Strike in general, because when version 1.6 came along it was already pretty difficult to win a game relying solely on individual skill.
2013-07-15 05:18
and you know that exactly?
2013-07-15 11:10
really nice! gg kennyS !
2013-07-15 01:14
# add tagging for CSGO PLZ!!
2013-07-15 01:17
YE!!!!
2013-07-15 02:18
youtube.com/watch?v=txcD9BdaZvU Nostalgie wins against Na'Vi! Final moment at Prague challenge!
2013-07-15 01:21
4/5 matches he is the worst in his team...
2013-07-15 06:51
#233
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China Specster 
LoL ceh9 interview, what a dumbass rofl. markeloff very nice but the madface ceh9... :|
2013-07-15 01:24
Well played by the guys of Nostalgie but shows also how good you can play with much less pressure on the players!
2013-07-15 01:26
Navi is so low... Won 2 maps versus NiP, it was dust 2 and train... Also Train was NiP's the best map, where they had no losses. But now, in Prague challenge they lose it versus fuckin mix, perfect. In NaVi's style. :)))
2013-07-15 01:38
Thorin's interview with TaZ, apEX and OverDrive was really funny, especially the last part lol
2013-07-15 01:42
ye about the roles of players, like "i'll be like friberg" or something like that in inferno :D
2013-07-15 01:49
someone was Dosia too.. lol :D
2013-07-15 02:02
Is there video?
2013-07-15 02:14
You should check out the Prague Challenge vods on twitch I think
2013-07-15 11:23
<3 VG & LDLC <3 french skill :D
2013-07-15 01:46
Haha this is so sick gg nostalgie and tnx overdrive for putting together exacly that group of players :]
2013-07-15 01:48
overdrive 2 stronk :D
2013-07-15 01:49
-Maniac, Sf +Neo, TaZ ;)
2013-07-15 01:51
Sf is sick
2013-07-15 01:55
Sad for NaVi but happy for Neo and Taz, it will maybe give them some motivation to continue.
2013-07-15 01:51
yeah they realised rest of ESC sucks :D
2013-07-15 07:28
Thanks overdrive for making this possible,great show and great match,gj guys!
2013-07-15 01:58
this was really cool to watch! thx2overdrive for making this happen, was very entertaining. damn, apex is soooo good. :)
2013-07-15 02:01
any videos of interviews?
2013-07-15 02:13
in b4 OVERDRIVE Gaming forms.
2013-07-15 02:21
THE LEGENDERY MIX-TEAM OF 2013 fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-a..
2013-07-15 02:22
Haha nice.
2013-07-15 02:31
hahaha epic
2013-07-15 03:37
Nice.
2013-07-15 11:38
#277
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Netherlands Nieroth 
Na'vi can't even beat a mix team.. gg na'vi.. gg.
2013-07-15 02:51
OverDrive has come close to winning against NaVi with mixes before on 1.6 with results like 16-13 and such and has won against them with teams TWICE.. so I don't get all the "he sucks" stuff.. although he hasnt played this game that much.. its not rly that different and hard to get in to especially if u play with players like he did.
2013-07-15 03:11
2013-07-15 10:03
I said so?
2013-07-15 19:09
right,and he did some really nice actions & frags in final match.
2013-07-15 14:56
MiX WiN !!!
2013-07-15 03:13
gratz , gg apex
2013-07-15 03:14
GoldenMoscowSauce! Fantastique!
2013-07-15 03:16
any videos of nostalgie communicating in game? (/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 03:38
#290
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Brazil Collee 
Na'who?
2013-07-15 03:50
So damn funny, huge congrats Nostalgie!
2013-07-15 03:51
money > teamplay
2013-07-15 03:59
Na'who hahaahahah
2013-07-15 04:17
2013-07-15 04:37
Here we go navi top3 by lurpis ranking which is based on performance against only single team. Funny thing is that even Thorin on stram publicly said that this is the biggest bullshit ever
2013-07-15 05:14
actually that performance was against the world's best and #2 team, as they beat virtus.pro as well :). it's much more likely this match was a fluke than all of sltv.
2013-07-15 08:04
I rly dont understand your logic. U are talking about random fluke. But on the other hand ur doing ranking based on a single matchup. Doesnt it seem ridiculous ? More likely fluke is NiP performance at last events. Which is far more likely and obvious than your top3 navi which are still loosing against random teams and mixes.
2013-07-15 14:24
nip's performance has been systematically declining since april. they've gone from a 100% win record to something like 75% in just a few months. it might seem ridiculous, but that's how cs:go is - no one is better than anyone, pretty much, in that 2nd through 10th group. all the matchups are 60-40 at best, most of them coin flips. not that i haven't explained that before :).
2013-07-15 14:50
i would like to see these 5 in a team rather than with mix. They all have potential to make one of the top team if playing together.
2013-07-15 05:39
Well, i feel like it wouldn't be fair if I don't say it once at least... (/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 07:20
annoying to read when you switch to the lastname after once stating the whole name with nickname. i can't keep up with everyone's lastnames. "Birukov was able to beat Sukhariev " i have no idea who are they talking about. sure i can scroll up to see who are they referring to but it gets annoying. am i the only one with this problem? has everyone else learned pro players' lastnames?
2013-07-15 07:25
it's been like that for years
2013-07-15 08:03
i am well aware of that
2013-07-15 08:07
here's my two cents then: i think everyone should stop using nicknames. only kobe can pull off giving himself a nickname. can't think of a single nickname as good as vino in cs. lastnames would look better and make more sense. i would prefer using nicknames as a writer because it'd make my job easier, but it would also make the site look worse imo.
2013-07-15 08:23
yeah i know you write news in a certain way since it looks more professional. i understand that. i'm just wondering if people actually know the last names so well, i sure don't. you probably do since you type several everyday ;) if people know them well then the only problem is me. that's why i was asking. but i like the idea of losing nicknames and just use last names. a bit harder to remember, nicknames stick better. but at least it makes more sense and would be less to remember. but realistically it's not going to happen
2013-07-15 08:34
yea i doubt it will ever happen, was just sharing my two cents. i think people know lastnames for the popular players, but most probably can't remember overdrive's or apex's (even i don't yet, although i'd recognize it) because they see them less often.
2013-07-15 08:40
yep. i know nip players' last names but that's pretty much it since no finns are playing on the top. finnish and swedish names are a lot easier to remember. but anyway, not that big of a deal
2013-07-15 08:47
It's annoying as hell :P I would prefer to read only nicknames.
2013-07-15 17:12
#319
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Russia AR4ER 
didn't expect.gg nostalgie
2013-07-15 07:41
nice :DDD
2013-07-15 07:51
KennyS : i know a little English so they can COMMUNICATE another phrase i saw in hltv.org news : Nostalgie going over strats for de_inferno_se before the third map They had STRATS and could communicate :)
2013-07-15 07:56
they were going over spot names on the map before it went live, and hadn't practiced a single time before this tournament. that means they didn't have strats, and certainly couldn't "communicate". communication in cs requires a LOT more than knowing "a little" english.
2013-07-15 08:06
Of course they have no strats and couldn't communicate well. It was some kind of irony what kapezas said. Pretty fun btw:)
2013-07-15 09:26
I don't see any Ukrainian flags :O
2013-07-15 08:11
This random game hahahhaha Na'Vi were practising for months and now they lost to some random mix team hahahahahaha hilarious
2013-07-15 08:20
ceh, did u know what means "dno"?
2013-07-15 08:26
:)
2013-07-15 08:30
GJ Nostalgie :O
2013-07-15 08:27
That shows that cs:go is all about skill, gun controlling that's it. Piece of sh*t !
2013-07-15 08:31
God forbid a game would require skill and gun control...
2013-07-15 08:54
that "I don't know what the fuck am I doing but we won" face of NeO in the picture where a guy holding trophy . priceless
2013-07-15 08:53
#344
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Ukraine kalitajke 
karma
2013-07-15 08:53
I love the whining! As if you didnt expect players like kennys, apex, neo, taz to individually destroy teams. Of course tactics are needed but a team with lesser aim cannot compete against skill, tactics or no tactics. Whats even funnier is that Navi were basically beaten 4v5 on train :P
2013-07-15 08:53
name four players of whom only kennys looked good at one of their past 3 events (dh summer, rc ems one, sltv) - taz, neo, apex, kennys. you shouldn't expect skill to beat better teamplay/strats and if it did, cs wouldn't be interesting as a game imo. we'll see how it turns out in the long term.
2013-07-15 09:10
I know that it shouldn't. All im saying is this highlights navis current lack of skill/teamplay. They were seriously outgunned man for man and their tactics couldn't make up for the lack of entry picks.
2013-07-15 19:11
LOL)) NICE!
2013-07-15 09:04
"I'm paying - you're playing." Key of success by OverDrive.
2013-07-15 09:20
Hey guys, any vod from final?
2013-07-15 09:22
youtube.com/user/cssltv With Russian commentary.
2013-07-15 09:25
thank you
2013-07-15 09:30
any english commentary?
2013-07-15 10:34
dno. Check out twitch.tv/districtprague/profile Maybe there you'll find some VODs. ps: It's official channel of this event.
2013-07-15 10:42
Navi doesn't have skills or tacts.
2013-07-15 09:39
#417
Other si 
NaVi didnt changed players since they started to play ... And they are still good . They still fighting for 1st place ..They lose to Nostalgie in tough game , and Nostalgie is not a regular Mix ... I think NaVi just didnt have this "Fire in Eyes" that they had in 2010/2011 .
2013-07-15 13:52
Are u serious? Fighting for 1st place? They should be happy if they are on top 10. They should also have a big advantage for having the same team since the 1.6 period. Not winnig against a team with 4 players is a disaster.
2013-07-15 14:28
#440
Other si 
"They should also have a big advantage for having the same team since the 1.6 period." It is advantage , as i sad : " I think NaVi just didnt have this "Fire in Eyes" that they had in 2010/2011 ."
2013-07-15 17:06
Hah, 1.6 was excactly the same - if you can shoot everything, then your strats and a minor issue. There is still just a small amout of players that are really, really good, so the differences are easier to spot. I think it might have something to do with GO being released... not even a year ago?! New game, new skills needed. Good job Nostalgie!
2013-07-15 09:28
In my opininon Nostalgie just had their momentum yesterday or catched the luck if you wish. Their skill is not far away from Na'Vi players', it's pretty the same. When you have this situation tactics+teamplay becomes determinant. That's why Na'Vi can compete with any team and were so dominant in 2010. I was sure they would get it, but it was Nostalgie's day of glory.
2013-07-15 09:46
any english vod for the final?
2013-07-15 09:28
#363
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
A mix team of players that don't speak the same language, and one player doesn't even play the game, and they beat Na'Vi a week or so off them getting 2 maps from NiP and beating Virtus.pro Confused.com
2013-07-15 09:41
because this game is so random...
2013-07-15 10:07
Anexis dont look so bad now lol
2013-07-15 10:05
#405
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Netherlands jen5on 
what about GF-gaming? they also managed to take the first map
2013-07-15 13:03
#371
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Russia 50bombs 
Overdrive win dreamteam
2013-07-15 10:05
kennys is a good player but btw sadly he is so so ugly.. hes eyes omg looks like he is his mid 40s. Idont think he had a same success with girls
2013-07-15 10:08
well that's why ugly people have hiden talents. i wonder what's yours.
2013-07-15 11:28
anyone knows where can I find a vod from the final?
2013-07-15 10:26
when anexis lose its a noobteam... when navi loses its a random game :)
2013-07-15 10:27
haha true :D
2013-07-15 13:02
Navi certainly don't lose 1-14 as CT at inferno :(
2013-07-15 13:07
1-16 man... That's the difference...
2013-07-15 17:15
easy breazy bg Na`Vi
2013-07-15 11:13
im very glad for NEO and TaZ
2013-07-15 11:24
navi got owned by something called aim, it was obvious for anyone watching the game.
2013-07-15 11:27
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/ just AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
2013-07-15 12:08
GAZPROM OverDrive GAZPROM NEO GAZPROM KennyS GAZPROM TaZ GAZPROM apEX
2013-07-15 12:23
:D
2013-07-15 12:28
hahaha good joke ;dP
2013-07-15 13:44
new team, neo taz kennys apex + 1 xD
2013-07-15 12:25
(/°-°)/ Raise your Overdrive! (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 13:19
2saucers pwned natus dniwere haha
2013-07-15 12:46
It was not pure aim beating Na'Vi,it was a good combination of Na'Vi underestimating them (was quite obvious how happy they were when they avoided anexis in the finals),quite some luck (almost all of overdrives clutch positions) and some nice aggressive plays by apex and Taz,respectively
2013-07-15 12:48
n1 (:
2013-07-15 13:28
#418
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Kazakhstan Juandro 
GL&hf NOSTALGIE go next > SnajdaN & co :D
2013-07-15 13:54
#419
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
So happy that neo and taz finally won a decent tournament :)
2013-07-15 14:00
They already won a Starseries tournament with ESC against VP.
2013-07-15 15:39
#448
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
I compltely forgot about it xD Season 4 in December
2013-07-15 17:15
(/°-°)/ Raise your OverDrive!&#65279; (/°-°)/
2013-07-15 14:07
#426
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Poland dijef 
CS:GO isn't random game, it is about the lack of feedback compared to old cs version. People often have no idea where shots coming from and can't hear guys running behind them. So how fast you are and movement is more important. Good guys win, but not sure if this change is actually good.
2013-07-15 14:43
#427
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Ukraine AnatolijNook 
When Navi will overcome all the problems they have (and they are self aware of it, gladly), they will become unbeatable. gg wp.
2013-07-15 14:45
And why is that?
2013-07-15 17:16
#462
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Ukraine AnatolijNook 
I see that they are loosing to themselves right now, not to the opponent like was in the beginning of their cs:go carrier.
2013-07-15 20:16
PRAGUE CHALLENGE VIDEOS! Nostalgie 'The One And Only' Overall Players Video youtube.com/watch?v=lzlhJLeM4UI Nostalgie Winning Moment youtube.com/watch?v=tcux-btoXKM Nostalgie vs Anexis - Last Round Winning 15:1 youtube.com/watch?v=5VEtz2Dh89E
2013-07-15 14:57
outaimed by 4 guys without strats & communication. simple as that.
2013-07-15 16:32
NEO,TaZ,kennyS,apeX,OverDrive Well Play really...against showing players quality
2013-07-15 16:40
i love overdrive
2013-07-15 18:06
1. Nostalgie 2. Natus vincere 3. Anexis
2013-07-15 18:17
now Go seems interesting
2013-07-15 18:17
Arkadiy Myasnicky aka OverDrive <3
2013-07-15 18:53
that's clearly show us how random and no skill cs:go it is. Same like COD n.c
2013-07-15 19:37
From my point of view, the Nostalgie players had a lot of fun while playing. There was no expectations from anybody - all they had to do was shoot some headshots and have fun.. Don't get all psyched about it, Na´Vi will get among the best sometime. At the end of the day, you win by shooting your opponents - How you do it, is another question.
2013-07-15 21:02
lol I dont follow cs go news and so on, but when a random mix wins an international tourney, that shows that cs go is just a game of luck, like poker. Of course I dont underestimate their game skills, they are pro's, but still, to beat a team which plays together i dont know for 5 years maybe, it is just amazing and stupid at the same time. cs go is not even comparable with 1.6, because 1.6 required aim and perfect tactics, and the best team always won, cs go - one of the biggest fails in the history of all the games. Imagine how will the ratings drop, when GTA 5 will come out :)
2013-07-15 21:18
poker is game of luck... rrright. This obviously makes whole post retarded, but reading further it gets even worse, but kind of expected after such statement :D
2013-07-15 23:22
well if poker is not a game of luck then you are an idiot ;)
2013-07-15 23:43
poker is not a game of luck, so that makes you an idiot, sir.
2013-07-15 23:46
Indeed :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker " With the exception of initial forced bets, money is only placed into the pot voluntarily by a player who, at least in theory, rationally believes the bet has positive expected value. Thus, while the outcome of any particular hand significantly involves chance,the long-run expectations of the players are determined by their actions chosen on the basis of probability, psychology and game theory."
2013-07-16 08:27
Ok donks so then explain this. Example: you shove with AKs, and you get called lets say with pocket deuces. So that is not a coin flip? that is not luck? :DD donks. go play in your zynga poker
2013-07-16 13:45
I'd love to take your money at the tables, anytime, sir. <3.
2013-07-16 20:03
that bullshit...in 1,6 some mix won some big lans... and navi dont play that good..their aim sucks in csgo versus a team like very game i think they would get raped hard playing like this
2013-07-15 23:21
I consider Na'Vi in the TOP 3 for a several reasons. The first one is that they lost the last BO5 against NiP 3-2 , BUT NiP got 1 map advantage because they came from the upper bracket, so make that 2-2, and the other thing is NaVi almost NEVER played Nuke, wich gave a HUGE advantage to NiP. The second one is NaVi isnt at their top form, and even then they do some damage to the TOP rated teams, so imagine if they get back into their old shape The last one is that NaVi beaten some of the top teams in BO 3 (VP, ...) so consider that beat som1 in a BO3 isnt luck! This is al just my opinion, be mature while responding to this !
2013-07-16 00:11
burning the game like they did and still dont manage to win this . Cmon they are together for years now... Stop finding excuses specially for de nuke . If it was Vg vs navi (na vi would get rape so hard)
2013-07-16 08:06
One thing you have to attribute to them: they've lost mostly because they underestimated nostalgie. I wouldn't say they are bad, it's just they were too cocky. Coming with kind of similar history from 1.6 as ESC they behave completely differently. Always so overconfident, this CPH games late arrival and drama queen... These guys are weird kids, thy act like boysband :)
2013-07-16 08:30
can anyone link the streamed final? ty
2013-07-16 00:18
overdrive dno.
2013-07-16 02:55
It has got nothing to do with CSGO being a bad game that Na'Vi lost against a mix team. It's just that Na'Vi played badly and apex destroyed.
2013-07-16 07:28
ahaha you guys are so funny I mean navi haters Team which won 2 maps in a row versus teams like VP and NiP is not including in top5 teams? :D sure there is like 10 teams which already did it.. oh, there is not :( haterz gonna hate
2013-07-16 08:42
GRATZ! GUYS
2013-07-16 08:58
This is what happens to NaVi when they don't have shoutcasters/audience ghosting for them. They lose to a mix team.
2013-07-17 14:26
Were Overdrive bad since everyone is making ''fun'' with him.
2013-07-18 12:24
Overdrive made markeloff ragequit. Mohahahahahaha
2013-07-18 21:57
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