Edward completes new CIS superteam

lurppis
July 19th, 2013 14:52

Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev has now been confirmed as the final member of the CIS-based dreamteam Astana Dragons, whose roster was partly leaked yesterday.

Yesterday saw Virtus.pro remove their CS:GO squad while Yegor "markeloff" Markelov departed from Natus Vincere. They were rumoured to team up with former Virtus member Dauren "AdreN" Kystaubayev in a new Kazakhstan based project.

Now Sukhariev has been confirmed as the fifth player in the roster, proving early reports of Sergey "Fox" Stolyarov or former DTS and Virtus player Emil "kucher" Akhundov joining being incorrect.


Edward rounds up Astana Dragons 

Now the team funded by Kazakhstan E-Sports Federation has been announced with the name Astana Dragons. The roster consists of three former Virtus.pro members and Na`Vi's two biggest stars.

The team will be housed in Kiev, Ukraine, similar to how Natus Vincere got started in 2010. Their first event will likely be DreamHack Bucharest, and they plan to attend all the big events that are coming up.

Astana Dragons:

Kazakhstan Dauren "AdreN" Kystaubayev
Ukraine Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow
Russia Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov
Ukraine Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev
Ukraine Yegor "markeloff" Markelov 

Sergey "lmbt" Bezhanov will continue his job from Virtus.pro, working as the squad's manager. Below is his official statement regarding the new Astana Dragons squad:

"I am really happy that I have invitation to stay with my friends and to work with them and I am sure that we will build our future step by step here in new organization and will have great time together."

In-game leader of the squad, Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow also chimed in with his statement to explain the motives behind this move:

"Hard times, hard decisions. Main goal for uniting all of these players, is to be the best, other options are not acceptable. And I believe that our new organisation wants the same, and will give us all conditions to reach it."

Finally, we also received an official statement from the president of the E-Sports Federation of Kazakhstan, Ilyas Sarsenbayev:

"We have great players, I'm sure that we will have good results very soon. We will do our best to become one of the leading esports organizations in the world, so we have great work to do. I hope all of you will enjoy spectating our games and stay tuned for the updates."

This move means Natus Vincere are now down to just three remaining members on their roster, although Arseny "ceh9" Trynozhenko's earlier tweet suggested they will be okay.

Natus Vincere:

Ukraine Arseny "ceh9" Trynozhenko
Ukraine Sergey "starix" Ischuk
Ukraine Daniil "Zeus" Teslenko"

Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev also left a statement on Navi-gaming.com regarding his departure form the team that dominated the Counter-Strike world in 2010:

"I'm leaving Na`Vi. It feels like leaving a home which I grew up in. This is an incredibly difficult decision, one that I didn't make lightly, but it is time for a change, time for something new for me. I will fondly remember all that happened in our team in these three and a half years, especially how it all began, our first victory.

"Thanks to Arbalet for his invaluable contribution to the beginning of our journey. Thanks to all my guys for all the victories and defeats that we experienced together. Thanks to Alexander who built this organization, which I hope in the future many more will call their family."

The newspost also states that the organization does not plan on announcing more news regarding the Counter-Strike squad before Monday, July 22nd.

#1
Poland Kuz. 
I see years of domination here... brace yourselves.
2013-07-19 14:53
#52
Dosia | 
Russia mNstR- 
DAT LINEUP!! :o
2013-07-19 14:59
i don't think the word "official" at the end makes it an official fan group
2013-07-19 17:11
lol yeah...
2013-07-19 18:17
hahah;D
2013-07-19 20:21
???
2013-07-19 20:23
hahah;D
2013-07-25 22:41
?????
2013-07-28 21:32
#763
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
I like the superteam in your title because this is a dream line-up imo, think NiP and VG (aswell as the danes) are going to have serious problems against these guys.
2013-07-20 00:48
I guess meaning of the word "superteam" has something similar with the meaning of "supergroup" en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergroup_(music) so it's not about team's level :)
2013-07-20 07:16
#827
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
yeah but besides them being stars individually, I also see this line-up working as a team. They have an insane awper (but they had that already, so maybe no improvement there) they have an insane IGL/entry fragger (same as for the awper though) kucher was a great backup player, really clutch and good aim, but I like to think edward steps that up a notch. dosia stays, a mad fragger like edward (though in CSGO edward seems less consistent in doing that than dosia) adren back instead of fox, now I think this will make a great difference, because with guardian (or now markeloff) fox, who is an insane sniper imo, was forced into the role of rifler, in which he was decent but by no means as good as adren or edward. so this feels like a big + for me (don't get me wrong I hope fox joins another team where he is allowed to do the awping, because I think he is amazing) also I feel really bad for shaGuardian x(
2013-07-20 12:58
#877
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
This lineup is going to fail. I'm going to screencap this and use it against everyone who still believes Navi were individually some of the best counter-strike players in the world, when in fact, they were just one of the best TEAMS. A team of champions < A champion team. This team's going to fail horribly. GL to them, but they'll get 5 rounds on NiP/VG tops. inb4 newfag sourcerand has no idea 1.6 4lyfe lelelelel.
2013-07-21 11:25
#890
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
Agree it was the best team, but the 2 former navis on astana were actually exceptionally gifted/skilled at 1.6
2013-07-21 13:28
That's one dumb thing to say... Indeed what made navi so dominant was their insane teamplay, but anyone - including me - who'd seen them play in their previous teams expected a team with Edward markeloff starix & Zeus to do great only because of their individual skill..
2013-07-22 13:01
Seems legit, I'd suggest you removing that since it's shit and from a guy like you. + I don't see any of the AD lineup there bruh
2013-07-21 12:54
1.Dragons 2.NIP 3.VG cmon fanboys come at me brah
2013-07-19 15:10
Crap'n'Shit Ratings: 1.Astana Dragons
2013-07-19 15:17
I will agree on that one except they will become top1 by time, not just right away
2013-07-19 18:29
#828
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
^
2013-07-20 12:59
They're great on paper, but will they deliver?
2013-07-19 15:14
+1
2013-07-19 15:15
i think they will. in cs;go tactic doesn't matter, pure skill and you are champion e.g. Nostalgie.
2013-07-19 15:16
+1 And they won't have any communication problems, like Nostalgie had
2013-07-19 15:33
Lol, funniest statement I seen in a while. In csgo tactics don't matter u say? Then how come they matter in 1.6 or CSS, plz explain cuz I got a feeling that one of us is retarded.
2013-07-19 17:47
maybe both
2013-07-19 19:21
ahahah
2013-07-19 20:26
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2013-07-19 23:03
#764
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
verbal doubletap between the eyes! ^_^
2013-07-20 00:48
smokes can stop any strat, all that matters is who headshots when all 10 smokes are gone
2013-07-19 19:55
If we really go as far as to accept it's all about smokes in CS:GO, which it isn't, there's still the fact that using smokes appropriately is for itself a strategic element of the game. Furthermore does this alone imply more layers of strategy, since a team has to strategically try and make the smokes have less of an impact on their strategies and execution. As couner-flashing is not that big of an element of CS:GO these days, something I can see becomimg more popular in the future is counter-smoking. It is already there to some degree, but it can be used for agressive maneuvers aswell (for instance, if the CTs decide to smoke upper mid on inferno, the terrorists can smoke towards either arch or quad to gain more area of control by running through the smoke at upper mid without having to fear opponents, since they'd have to run through smokes themselves in order to deny control of that area. And because they can't see if the terrorists decided to run through the smoke in mid - let alone hear - this also makes for some neat fakes when it gets more popular and develops). So, even disregarding other strategical elements that are there to the competitive state of play today, the smoke dynamics alone could make for some complex layering of strategy.
2013-07-19 20:17
that already happens, and the result is who ever hits the shot when everyone is out of smokes wins.
2013-07-19 22:37
Well, in the end it always comes down to who hits their shots. Strategy is about getting into positions and situations where it is easier to be the ones hitting their shots, or where it doesn't matter that much if you don't hit your shots for that matter. Let's take the inferno example. Just taking the map control of upper mid alone is strategically valueable and can decide rounds on its own regardless of who hits their shots, because getting that deep into the site and having the time to set up properly, you can trade even if you should be the first team to lose players. From there on out, you are free to set up for a after-plant situation almost instantly, as the rotators have triple the way to the bombsite - not even the sickest aim will break a smart after-plant situation. Don't get me wrong, I do agree that there is much less to winning rounds than there was in 1.6 for example, and I do agree that "strategy" most of the time plays a way smaller role in doing so than having aim and being clutch, but to say there is no strategy involved because of the smokes is just paradoxical.
2013-07-19 22:56
rofl @ how hard you're trying to sound intelligent
2013-07-20 02:21
I tell you something that might shock you and change your life by 360 degrees. Smokes are part of strategies, therefore tactics :O
2013-07-19 20:48
you throw a smoke, i smoke you out, when our smokes are gone, if you kill me, i lose. i kill you, you lose. thats how it is
2013-07-19 22:39
Wasn't that exactly same in other cs versions? You could always counter smoke, it's not just csgo. Your argument is invalid. When it comes up to strategy csgo has much more into it. Thx to be able to smoke over the top of certain buildings can help you smoke out certain areas so you can push the site or whatever instead of just waiting and picking.
2013-07-20 09:24
smokes in 1.6 you could see through, and if you were in a smoke and they weren't you weren't at an extreme disadvantage. so no, it wasnt the same in other cs versions.
2013-07-20 15:05
So you basically saying that smokes were useless in 1.6, in this case game is less tactical, from my understanding. Also with a recent smoke update, things changed.
2013-07-20 21:01
they weren't useless, i dont know why you're drawing extremes off of everything i say. you needed more than 1 to completely smoke out an area. if you wanted to smoke arch at B on inferno you needed at least 2-3 to get the job done. which means if you have a strat you cant waste them. in csgo if you have 1 smoke you can smoke the entire arch and if they try to push it theyre immediately visible and you can kill them
2013-07-20 23:02
They changed that visibility outside and inside smoke with the last update as far as I know. It's just the way the game is build, I personally like it, with a good coordination you can smoke out with 4-5 smokes whole bombsite and plant the bomb. Now you can screw it up with one anti smoke or Molotov. In my opinion make the game more tactical, cuz it gives you more options with where and how you place smokes. Also as I said more team cordination, therefore requires more team work.
2013-07-21 10:55
no, they changed the smokes clipping through roofs in the last update. its actually less team coordination, because instead of relying on your team mate to help you stop a rush all you have to do is throw one smoke. where and how you place your smokes? you place them on the choke point, how is that more tactical?
2013-07-21 14:59
You don't get what I mean, for example banana smoking bombsite a. One placed on coils, one on ct, one on dark spot, one on new boxes and whole bombsite is smoked out, forcing cts to come out from positions and play aggressively or wait for smokes to be gone. In my opinion is more tactical then throwing 3 smokes on ct just so you can cut off one player and quick rotate and focus on another player on site. Placing smokes correctly takes hours of training and hours of training of team coordination
2013-07-22 00:06
Sure its not 180? If its 360 your just right back where you started :)
2013-07-20 10:24
Good point :D haha
2013-07-20 20:58
Maybe because pro cene of cs 1.6 is like 10 years. csgo 1 year, reflex and focus are everything in this game now.
2013-07-19 20:18
#878
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
Thinking any of them have pure raw skill is lolworthy. Leave.
2013-07-21 11:26
+1
2013-07-19 15:17
How many to they start to dominate you see? 4/5? lmao.
2013-07-19 16:04
this is a shit team :) they won´t beat NiP without GuardiaN :)
2013-07-20 15:10
#2
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United Kingdom AlywOw 
Superpower
2013-07-19 14:52
That is one hell of a team :/
2013-07-19 14:53
#4
Ukraine KYPT 
GL !
2013-07-19 14:53
want to watch NiP vs AD :c
2013-07-19 14:53
it's a shame both navi and VP died for this roster
2013-07-19 14:53
this.
2013-07-19 14:56
+1
2013-07-19 14:57
#48
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Poland kRAMERO 
+1
2013-07-19 14:58
+1
2013-07-19 14:59
#68
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United States MadCl0wN 
+1
2013-07-19 15:00
+1
2013-07-19 15:06
#192
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Lithuania disesion 
+1
2013-07-19 15:20
+1
2013-07-19 15:27
they took the best from na'vi and VP and merged them together. i said a few months ago that if they merged these exact 5 together that they could potentially be the best team in the world, but i never thought they would actually do it. wwwowww.. this team would be nuts in 1.6 too
2013-07-19 15:31
what else you said few months ago? -fiffy +delpan? :P
2013-07-19 17:46
no, but i did say -fifflaren +anyone. jw would be be the best choice ON PAPER for NiP in my opinion. he's a very good awper and a good rifler as well, whereas fifflaren is essentially only good at using the p250.
2013-07-19 18:29
OMG! NiP need fifflaren..he is a brain of their team...dummbass.
2013-07-20 15:11
+1
2013-07-19 15:45
Yeah it is but if this team will stomp NiP then everyone will forget about it
2013-07-19 16:02
+1
2013-07-19 16:06
#414
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Europe _jUNGLE 
I will leave my +1 here, bro Money talks!
2013-07-19 16:19
but dendi..
2013-07-19 16:52
well its the same way Na'Vi was created, merging 2 best ukranian teams HellRaisers and Amazing Gaming
2013-07-19 18:41
#689
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
The difference being both those teams were no way near as good as the VP and Na'Vi teams
2013-07-19 19:59
+1
2013-07-19 19:38
+1
2013-07-19 19:53
good team!!!
2013-07-19 14:53
#8
Sweden Irip 
DAAAMN
2013-07-19 14:53
#9
Romania tr$ 
Holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit holy shit Agree with #6 though
2013-07-19 14:54
holy jesus of mother of god... what the fuck
2013-07-19 14:53
NiP is going down. :D
2013-07-19 15:17
once they've had some time to practise, its hard to see this team not being a strong contender for nr.1
2013-07-19 15:18
agree
2013-07-19 15:19
I like that reaction. :D
2013-07-19 15:39
I don't see theese as strong contenders for nr.1 I tought in the beginning Na'Vi and Very Games would dominate and i was so wrong. I'd rather want to see the old Virtus lineup with some small improvements.
2013-07-19 17:33
Please stop swearing and blaspheming...
2013-07-19 18:03
i hope youre not serious
2013-07-21 12:43
I am always serious.
2013-07-21 13:34
so sad...
2013-07-19 14:53
THIS OVER BROTHERS COMPANY ((
2013-07-19 14:53
s1ck
2013-07-19 14:54
Kazakhstan E-SportsFederation who is that lol
2013-07-19 14:54
same q :D
2013-07-19 15:28
millionaires
2013-07-19 15:33
I heard some romours ,that their manager is some brother of Bin Laden :D
2013-07-19 18:28
is final bos undertaker
2013-07-20 08:23
#16
Croatia VuKA 
awesome team :)
2013-07-19 14:54
amazing team on paper.. terrible name though! who to fanatic then?
2013-07-19 14:54
#497
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Greece her-1g 
carn said the next lineup will be scandinavic. so cis guys never had a chance of joining fnatic
2013-07-19 16:54
WW/epsilon :) Well that's just my opinion.
2013-07-19 18:33
#18
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World fns1 
lol n1
2013-07-19 14:54
#19
Tunisia edgg 
I ran out of popcorn :(
2013-07-19 14:54
2013-07-19 15:34
AHAHHAHA ASTANA DRAGONZ HAHAHAHHAHA OMG
2013-07-19 14:54
+1
2013-07-19 16:46
omfg
2013-07-19 14:54
OMG Borat will be happy ;d
2013-07-19 14:54
Borat Team. Good lineup but VG et NiP are still better, i think LDLC is better too, for the moment. 1 new good team, now, we will see. Quid of ESC, Navi ? Mixing team ? If we have a new team with neo, taz, pascha + guardian + fox ? It will be great.
2013-07-19 15:29
I think neo, taz and pasha should join with peet and another pole.
2013-07-19 15:42
#394
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Germany sanity_ 
Mhm isnt it neo taz pasha kuben still? Only Loord retired as far as I know.
2013-07-19 16:10
the other pole being kuben then,
2013-07-19 16:12
#446
reatz | 
Poland Keruzz 
-kuben, worst player in ESC
2013-07-19 16:32
there will always be a worst player in the team, you can't always - player because they are the worst, they are still in the top elite of the world...
2013-07-19 16:39
#471
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Europe _jUNGLE 
you certainly don't know, what you are talking about kuben is G5's brains
2013-07-19 16:41
#546
reatz | 
Poland Keruzz 
I know what im talking about, but if they remove loord just to get 1 player in, nothing will change. So lets face it -kuben and then maybe we 2 new players rest will be motivated to play, otherwise i dont see it coming
2013-07-19 17:33
#781
shox | 
Poland maxiu 
rn bo nie znam ?? how old are you ??? i think you don't know mmuch about G5
2013-07-20 04:36
#826
reatz | 
Poland Keruzz 
Are you stupid? Think a bit before u do anything
2013-07-20 12:32
No. Only - loord in ESC and then + Guardian
2013-07-19 18:35
1. neo, taz, pasha doesn't understand russian; GuardiaN doesn't speak this language. 2. pasha doesn't speak english. 3. doubt Fox has good english skills.
2013-07-19 19:13
I like that team, guradian at least and then we'll see if kuben is staying or not.
2013-07-22 08:59
High Five!
2013-07-19 19:05
WOW
2013-07-19 14:54
top 1
2013-07-19 14:55
5 Beasts
2013-07-19 14:55
world nr 1
2013-07-19 14:55
ASTANA DRAGONS WAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
2013-07-19 14:55
#28
Finland nsis 
Na`Vi domination from 2010 incoming.
2013-07-19 14:55
WTF! What a fucked up team name!
2013-07-19 14:55
Dauren "AdreN" Kystaubayev Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev Yegor "markeloff" Markelov in 1.6 this there was a dream team
2013-07-19 14:55
in CSGO also. Only markeloff is weaker in CSGO comparing to 1.6
2013-07-19 14:56
his awp was stronger in 1.6 but hes getting really good with these rifles in go now while he wasnt that good of a rifler in 1.6
2013-07-19 15:04
#235
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United Kingdom jMz86 
He is still top5 with the awp imo, wouldn't be surprised if he starts becoming the #1 awper we remember, with this lineup.
2013-07-19 15:26
i think he is top3 but still in 1.6 his awp was just sick
2013-07-19 15:28
#971
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United Kingdom jMz86 
Probably, however as the game is still under a year I would say its tighter than it has been to find the top awper. There are a few and if KennyS becomes more consistent then I wouldn't be surprised if he is regarded as the best.
2013-07-31 16:04
It's funny tho how they removed GuardiaN for markeloff. I mean, all the kids going GuardiaN > markeloff must be sad now. :D
2013-07-19 16:27
#451
reatz | 
Poland Keruzz 
i bet its language that fits marik in :)
2013-07-19 16:34
meh. They didn't seem to have issues with GuardiaN now did they?
2013-07-19 16:34
#544
reatz | 
Poland Keruzz 
still its better to talk in own language than in english, dont u think?
2013-07-19 17:31
you're right, I am sad :(
2013-07-20 15:07
u never saw him play, if u say he wasn't a good rifler in 1.6
2013-07-20 19:00
its just meeting better sniper than him from source.
2013-07-19 15:29
+1
2013-07-19 16:28
Lol no. That's not about that, he was just SICK in 1.6. He was way more consistent that kennyS is in GO, way more impressive also than GuardiaN. He was sometimes winning games alone with his awp. He just needs more time to feel the awp in CSGO. kennyS has sick reflexes, but he's lacking consistency. GuardiaN is way more consistent but not really spectacular. markeloff was both on 1.6. He will be soon enough on GO I believe. It takes time to forget 1.6 mechanics to get those of CSGO. At least, longer than it takes for CSSers to adapt. (btw this last sentence isn't a debate starter, it's a fact).
2013-07-19 16:31
Yeah. I agree on most of what you're saying, but I also think it's because the awp itself isn't nearly as strong as in CSS/1.6. We have seen both kennyS and Guardian rifle from time to time, so i don't believe that he would ever be so sick in GO contra 1.6. Because he needs to improve as a rifler aswell because he was one of the full time awpers in 1.6 :)
2013-07-19 18:41
Don't bother, can't you see the trollish tone in his post :)
2013-07-19 22:40
dude, in 1.6 he was the best, and most of the 1.6 players are really skilled with the awp, whixh is even harder than css awp
2013-07-20 01:58
In English now please
2013-07-22 13:24
For the moment, i prefer Neo than Markeloff but it's really a good team.
2013-07-19 15:32
f0rest, gtr, neo, trace and SpawN, this is the really true 1.6 dt
2013-07-19 18:23
f0rest trace gtr neo marik spawn is a legend. but 2010-2012MARIK >>>>> 2003-2009SPAWN
2013-07-20 05:12
NEVER ! SpawN way better than marik markeloff is so unconsistent,many times play amazing, many times he dont...
2013-07-20 17:11
no. simply no. Spawn in his time 1.6 players hadn't reached the highest level of playing. while marik in later years had to play way more advanced opponents.
2013-07-21 06:24
lol whut ? imo u even watched cs on SpawN times... Damien, elemeNt, knoxville, Luke, Naikon, DarK, XeqtR, ahl, Brunk, Filur, fisker, ScreaM, Bengan, HeatoN, Hyb, Potti, boms, Bullseye, Ksharp, moto, Rambo, archie, Crw, GudeN, Hyper vilden, bsl, ShaGuar, whiMp, fRoD, Storm, Snajdan, Ins, Archi, Zet, dA_BeaRS, JhonnyR, KabaL, EMKILL, Hordeau, Zonic, hpx, Walle, f0rest, Tentpole, cArn, LUq, Neo, TaZ, KK, Morf4r, Goodfella, Allen, juve9le.... A LOT of good players on SpawN time, a lot of mytic players... and still HADNT REACHED THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF PLAYING ??? sk 2005 was one of the best teams (if not the best) of cs history... cmon bro, u not even watched him playing, so dont say bullshit
2013-07-21 06:43
you still don't get it do you? let me break it down: f0rest2005 < f0rest2006 < f0rest2007... neo2005 < neo2006 < neo2007... spawn2003 < spawn2004 < spawn2005 < ... < spawn2009 marik2009 < spawn2009 < marik2012
2013-07-22 12:58
u really dont know what are u talking about... the level of cs in 2002~2005 was TOO HIGH ! a lot of legends played between this time cs isnt just markeloff neo and f0rest bro, learn about oldtimes before say bullshit
2013-07-22 16:28
you know what, just stop. it's not even worth arguing. kbye
2013-07-23 03:36
hahahahahaha ok, good joke
2013-07-23 04:16
what a lineup. Can't wait until they will meet NiP
2013-07-19 14:55
what a fantastic roster that is
2013-07-19 14:55
sick team
2013-07-19 14:56
kucher and guardian/fox to navi?
2013-07-19 14:56
#40
Sweden Irip 
2 players needed in Na'Vi and 1 in ESC, lets see what happens with these two teams now aswell.
2013-07-19 14:57
yeah then, fox and kucher to navi and guardian to esc
2013-07-19 15:00
+1
2013-07-19 18:42
kuben will probably retire too :/
2013-07-19 15:37
peet to esc would be sick!
2013-07-19 15:46
I believe TaZ doesn't like NaVi so much, not sure tho.
2013-07-19 16:32
TaZ & Neo to NaVi? :0
2013-07-19 15:36
or that, dont think so tho
2013-07-19 15:52
In my opinion, fox is equivalent Markeloff player, at least in CSGO. But replacement for Edward not visible now.
2013-07-19 16:19
Seized to replace Edward maybe then?
2013-07-19 18:42
He was a stand-in for Na'vi in the past? If i can remember correctly.
2013-07-20 10:48
Yeah, that's what I had the idea from :) But we'll see
2013-07-21 01:51
Amazing team on paper... NiP is definitely a bit scared
2013-07-19 14:56
Astana Dragons ahahahahahaa wish for disband this shit after 2-3 months
2013-07-19 14:56
+1
2013-07-20 05:06
this is AD(hell in english)
2013-07-19 14:57
#323
yxo | 
Ukraine piratz0r 
hell raisers
2013-07-19 15:48
will disband within six months
2013-07-19 14:57
or loose orga support after 1 failish tournament
2013-07-19 15:03
yeah, maybe... rkbb:)
2013-07-19 15:13
Wow.
2013-07-19 14:57
super team ahahahah. from kazakhstan ahahahahahhahahahahahahhahah... Stop the world, I'm gone
2013-07-19 14:57
hahahahh +1
2013-07-19 14:59
the organization is from Kazakhstan, not the team.
2013-07-19 15:01
so what is the difference, it is still some nonsense
2013-07-19 15:19
#501
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Greece her-1g 
why is it nonsense??? the richest 1.6 teams were from a kazakh owner (navi and united), and he invested into cs at 2010.
2013-07-19 16:57
Ur wrong if u think that Kazakhstan is like in movie Borat :D Its actualy very nice and unique country!!
2013-07-19 17:33
AHAHADHADHADHADHADH
2013-07-19 14:57
dubious prospect...
2013-07-19 14:58
how good AdreN is? and can someone rate those players by skill? (for example 1st Edward 2nd markeloff 3rd Dosia bla bla...)
2013-07-19 14:58
#61
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
er for me dosia edward ange1 adren
2013-07-19 15:00
AdreN is pretty much as good in CS:GO as he was in 1.6
2013-07-19 15:00
And he was a fucking beast on 1.6
2013-07-19 16:33
#63
Finland pulu 
lets see adren is better than american adren that tells something.
2013-07-19 15:00
#73
Tunisia edgg 
you cant compare them, they are all almost equal (with dosia and edward being slightly better)
2013-07-19 15:01
this
2013-07-19 15:12
from what i have seen, 1 dosia 2 ange1 3 adren 4 markeloff 5 edward. but markeloff was SICK this last 2 lans, so i dont know
2013-07-19 15:01
you srsly have no clue, 1dosia 2edward 3 adren 4ange1 5markeloff
2013-07-19 15:16
if its from what you seen that you need to wash you eyes better
2013-07-19 15:20
Edward slightly better overall, Dosia Ange1 Marik AdreN my opinion
2013-07-19 15:16
1. Angel (best igl in csgo) 2. Edward 3. Dosia 4. AdreN 5. Marik
2013-07-19 15:50
dude, if xizt can win everything with fifflaren in his team he got to be the best igl :D
2013-07-19 16:23
xizt has gtr and f0rp to work with, angel still comes out on top most of the time when they meet.
2013-07-19 16:38
ANGEL1 works with Edward, best aimer ever both in 1.6 and GO, markeloff and Dosia.
2013-07-19 18:10
Edward best aimer ever, sure thing.
2013-07-19 20:38
Fair enough xD
2013-07-19 17:03
lmao
2013-07-19 17:43
He is as good as Edward and Dosia. (At least in 1.6)
2013-07-19 16:02
#469
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
edward overrated
2013-07-19 16:40
I could be wrong, but there is little difference between the Dosia, AdreN, ANGE1, and Edward. On current form, they are definitely better than markeloff. As for AdreN, he is a pure FPS talent. He was a monster in both 1.6 and Source, and now GO.
2013-07-19 20:50
It's like UNiTE to six months ...
2013-07-19 14:58
united
2013-07-19 15:20
#51
Finland pulu 
oh yeah this team gonna rape nip in year 2015
2013-07-19 14:58
i have never seen anything good coming from your mouth
2013-07-19 18:27
im just too good to be tru
2013-07-20 16:35
ye ye dream finish guy !
2013-07-19 20:52
Lets hope for some top competition! :D
2013-07-19 14:59
They will do nothing against nip anyway. Adren sucks probably ruined two teams it because of money. Waiting for their disband after month too
2013-07-19 14:59
you have it wrong. Currently in the line up markeloff is the weakest. AdreN played very well in VP. One of the best support player currently in the game. Comparable to friberg.
2013-07-19 15:15
What exactly is a SUPPORT player in CS:GO? The one casting spells and healing etc. ?
2013-07-19 15:18
die please
2013-07-19 15:21
Support player or back up. Unlike mad fraggers or entry killers, support players would play the round for a majority of the time. They get trade kills. They hold angles to take off any aggressive pushes, look for peaks, scout the bomb sites and guess how many hold ppl are inside a site and pass on the information to the team. They hold good game sense.
2013-07-19 15:25
Friberg is the complete opposite of that, he's an entry fragger.
2013-07-19 15:52
You are right friberg is the entry fragger. But he did not play too well lately. So i believe f0rest started opening the sites first.
2013-07-19 15:54
not really
2013-07-19 16:18
This is not dota. Face it people there is no support player in counter strike.
2013-07-19 18:38
Warding and stuff :D
2013-07-19 16:32
yes is a nurse
2013-07-20 09:09
"PLAYED VERY WELL" 4 months ago? he had a break from gaming and he isnt good as you think, you will see
2013-07-19 15:21
AdreN left cs 1.6 almost years ago. But when he joined cs:go he did very well in VP. Honestly surpassed my expectations. I don't think 4 months break will hurt his chances.
2013-07-19 15:26
give me any proof that he 'did pretty well' im looking at statistics and he was the worst one so what are u talking about?
2013-07-19 15:28
stats can be misleading. Loord stats are poor. But the support he offers as a back up player is excellent. From an observer's point of view it is easy to look at the frag chart and estimate a player. But the truth is, in game, if you a player who takes out forest or get_right all the time and dies later instantly his KD ratio would be 1. But to me he is a better player than most because of the contribution he made in game. AdreN used to be a entry fragger in VP just like his role in K23. Entry fragging is the hardest job in cs. Don't expect massive KDr from such players. Further AdreN's ping is too high when played online. It effects the game a lot. So lets not talk about stats. I am sure he does not have to be a mad fragger as eddy will take care of it. He just have to do his job which i believe he can.
2013-07-19 15:50
Loord stats are poor? please omg u have no clue about the scene. Look at 20 recent matches of Loord he was better than taz and neo.
2013-07-19 17:01
+1 People talking nonesense without looking at the facts.
2013-07-19 20:44
strat ? lol its same like torres mr.footballer of union cup its a joke a guy can always asap finish gtr then die he can never above 1 but hes team mvp
2013-07-20 09:19
"Astana Dragons" that is fail name
2013-07-19 14:59
just like Copenhagen Wolves ?
2013-07-19 15:03
great on paper, but i have my doubts about how it'll work in practice
2013-07-19 14:59
Why? The communication isn´t a problem anymore. Edward and markeloff are coming from Na´vi who are famous for their teamwork. I can´t see how that lineup won´t work to be honest.
2013-07-19 15:33
it's not the communication that is a problem.. the problem is that there are too many star players in the team and no supports
2013-07-19 16:00
Somehow i feel that it can be big boom between the players in a short time(all stars can't fit each other)
2013-07-19 16:46
so what? in cs:go aim > teamwork . Dosia and Edward together is just sick, not far behind f0rest and GT
2013-07-19 19:09
not just edward and markeloff... markeloff was playing with angel before and they one the best friends...
2013-07-19 16:01
Navi +kucher +GuardiaN awesome :D
2013-07-19 15:00
navi +kucher +fox esc +guardian
2013-07-19 15:01
this shit
2013-07-19 15:21
what i heard ukrainians have been easier than with Russian Slovak, so it will be easier for navigation with language if fox joins navi insted of guardian
2013-07-19 15:37
still dont understand this, navi was playing well (finally!) and suddenly everyone is leaving?!
2013-07-19 15:00
i think that loss against nostalgie got them kinda mad..
2013-07-19 15:01
They have got many arguments during matches. Maybe that was the reason.
2013-07-19 15:06
Team chemistry problems are kind of a big deal
2013-07-19 16:05
they long time no champ so
2013-07-20 09:52
#66
Europe omga 
adreN> NaVi+VP ROFL
2013-07-19 15:00
#69
Australia Jks 
sick sponsor + sick team~
2013-07-19 15:00
sick lineup but im not sure if its worth it :/
2013-07-19 15:00
ahahaha AD omg nice nice Kazakhstan tashi!
2013-07-19 15:01
It seems like there is no friendship in CS scene anymore :D Na'vi and VP disbanded just to create this team...
2013-07-19 15:01
LOL? Finally, we also received an official statement from the president of the E-Sports Federation of Kazakhstan, Ilyas SarsenBayev: "We have great players, I'm sure that we will have good results very soon. We will do our best to become one of the leading esports organizations in the world, so we have great work to do. I hope all of you will enjoy spectating our games and stay tuned for the updates." How can he said this? Just 1 player from Kazakhstan
2013-07-19 15:01
They are sponsoring the team??? Thats like saying a premiership team isnt english because it only has 2 uk players :D
2013-07-19 15:30
But premiership team are located in England. They no
2013-07-19 15:50
fnatic is from Australia...
2013-07-19 19:28
#77
Sweden binz 
HAA xD
2013-07-19 15:01
Is this the time to point out that most 1.6-fanboys claimed source-teams were so unstable? :D Anyways, this team looks sick, and is probably for the best
2013-07-19 15:02
Russian teams have always been unstable
2013-07-19 15:15
Unstable? The Na'Vi lineup has been together for like 3 years, and the Russians have also played for some time. It's two teams merging, nothing else.
2013-07-19 15:27
-adren
2013-07-19 15:02
-1.
2013-07-19 15:16
the team is almost ukrainian again. and yes, this is absolutely fail name
2013-07-19 15:02
Just like the old times, years before Na'Vi CS.
2013-07-19 15:03
LOL beast lineup there! gl <3
2013-07-19 15:03
Navi lost all fans :/ bikaz marik & edward left team
2013-07-19 15:03
Astana Dragons ahahahah
2013-07-19 15:03
glgl
2013-07-19 15:03
#91
Denmark rizc 
Holy crap.
2013-07-19 15:04
what's so funny about "Astana Dragons"?
2013-07-19 15:04
agree. Why then no one makes fun of Copenhagen Wolves ?
2013-07-19 15:07
because nobody cares about them
2013-07-19 15:08
haha
2013-07-19 15:23
Just like the norwegian teams
2013-07-19 18:49
shut up 14 year old saucer
2013-07-19 19:48
someone is mad here
2013-07-19 22:24
Mention two top10 in csgo from norway :))
2013-07-20 05:41
Because they are actually danish all of them xD
2013-07-19 15:23
good point. I don`t get it also pretty cool name :)
2013-07-19 15:19
n1
2013-07-19 15:04
oil money baby
2013-07-19 15:04
why does everyone say that adren is good? damn he is the most overrated player ive seen in csgo
2013-07-19 15:04
agree he's just a good player, no more
2013-07-19 15:09
UNITED V2 EDITION
2013-07-19 15:05
+ :D
2013-07-19 15:24
MECTb
2013-07-19 15:30
shit just got real
2013-07-19 15:06
nice team and nice name, but i wonder if dosia and adren can keep up with rest of the team
2013-07-19 15:06
Please, Dosia is one of the best on that team. I agree on AdreN though.
2013-07-19 15:07
he wasn't that great lately, but yeah hes great when in good shape
2013-07-19 15:10
Dosia is one of the best players in cs go.. He can be got and cold but that might of been because of team dynamics in virtus.pro adren is s team player but much more skilled than a Kutcher loord kuben type.
2013-07-19 15:13
Yes, you are probably right well let's hope they will fit all nicely with new team members and strats.
2013-07-19 15:16
its more like can the other keep up with AdreN and Dosia, not the other way around
2013-07-19 15:41
Dosia is the best player on this team dude
2013-07-19 19:11
AMAZING
2013-07-19 15:06
pretty sick lineup
2013-07-19 15:07
omgggggggggggggggggg
2013-07-19 15:07
1 option » Na'Vi pick up this new team 2 option » Fnatic pick up this new team
2013-07-19 15:07
Last option &#65533; None of the teams will pick up them because of new main sponsor
2013-07-19 15:15
Arbalet already picked them up. Dumbass
2013-07-19 19:19
This team just looks incredibly scary, you have four incredible riflers and one AWPer who has also looked extremely impressive with the rifle as of late. Good luck to them, they have a real chance to destroy NiP. Can't see what NaVi can do now apart from disband, they lost their best players and all the top talent is now taken by this team.
2013-07-19 15:07
maybe fox guardian join navi?
2013-07-19 15:08
An average rifler, and an AWPer who has struggled to keep his place in a few teams now.. don't think so.
2013-07-19 15:11
True, Fox isn't on the same league as some of his his ex teammates, but calling him average? With regards to Guardian, I just feel he has bad luck with teams. Guardian would be a fitting, if not better (atleast in CS GO) replacement for markeloff; while fox would be a decent replacement too (although obviously not better than edward) Just random speculations anyway. I just feel it would be tragic for Navi to disband.
2013-07-19 15:16
fox old horse years ago i follow his awp inferno ct banana few times shit
2013-07-20 11:55
yeee Fox is so "average" LOL
2013-07-19 19:13
this
2013-07-19 15:26
#114
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Ukraine potapUA 
How can russian and ukrainian players play for kazach orga? Astana Dragons? Its like clan name for 6 years old kids. This line jp is sick but orga and name sucks. I look ho for navi: Zeus, Ceh9, starix, kucher, fox
2013-07-19 15:07
It's the capitol of Kazakhstan, what's the problem? Same for Cph Wolves, Western Wolves etc, it's just the recent trend to have names of that type. How do you know the organisation sucks?
2013-07-19 15:10
I see you are not familiar with our mentality :)
2013-07-19 15:18
Slating things instantly?
2013-07-19 15:22
its all about money, markeloff can play on tag - Im fucking traitor * markeloff if he would receive good money
2013-07-19 15:23
Dont know if you've thought of this. But if you cant live off a hobby I imagine it starts to get boring very quickly. No one is going to devote hours for no gain.
2013-07-19 15:35
amazing!
2013-07-19 15:08
sick lineup but I'm sad for starix, he was awesome in 1.6, looks like another neo of cs:go
2013-07-19 15:08
pretty sure he dont like the game at all, that could be an explanation
2013-07-19 19:14
Monster lineup! Natus Vincere of 2010 All over again! GL!
2013-07-19 15:08
gl!
2013-07-19 15:08
called it, i told edward and markeloff would pull an "SK" and my post get deleted.
2013-07-19 15:09
#124
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Taiwan SCVready 
WTF!!This lineup is just sick!! What's next? Fox starix ceh9 Zeus GuardiaN
2013-07-19 15:09
I think Fox reitred so: Starix, ceh9, Zeus, Guardian, KucheR would be a possible team.
2013-07-19 15:30
you might be right
2013-07-19 15:51
i wish more KZ players... its a shame that this is founded by kz esports orga and has only 1 kz player
2013-07-19 15:09
It is because they actually want to do something at the International level.. AdreN = only good kz player
2013-07-19 15:14
gvd
2013-07-19 15:09
N1
2013-07-19 15:09
good :) now kick NiP ass
2013-07-19 15:09
O_O
2013-07-19 15:10
to be honest, I abhor AdreN for no reason - I don't know why... also I dislike this name Astana Dragons \o/ name should be something that is linked with ex-Soviet union :))))))
2013-07-19 15:10
hmm like Stalin dragons, gazprom gas? :D
2013-07-19 15:11
hahaha Stalin Dragons, great name xD
2013-07-19 16:08
+1 for Stalin dragons
2013-07-19 19:05
like for 1. option
2013-07-20 14:17
ne filozofiraj da ti ne jebem sve
2013-07-21 23:58
what?
2013-07-22 01:56
he says : don't say shit or i will fuck you everything u have.
2013-10-04 15:40
Holy Shit. ´ Beast team, shit name
2013-07-19 15:11
As I expected! This is going to be GUUUUUUUUUUUUD! GL GUYS!
2013-07-19 15:20
"rip csgo welcome back 1.6!!" yeah, rip csgo. AHA
2013-07-19 15:11
RiP NiP
2013-07-19 15:11
Guardian, zeus, fox, taz, neo pls
2013-07-19 15:12
fox is out...
2013-07-19 15:20
Fox is still unsure about his future - from the post. So I geuss anything could happen if he gets nice offers?:>
2013-07-19 15:24
I read that, but i think he will end his career.
2013-07-19 15:26
+1, would be great ! but idk about languages :/
2013-07-19 16:08
Taz+and neo could play together and zeus+fox, and guardian knows how to play smart on his own :p
2013-07-19 16:12
ok but just tell me the fact that led edzy and marik to leave Na'Vi !! they had problems with the other mates or what ?!! they kept informing us that they left X and joined Y but didn't mentioned the WHY, this is just weird imo !!
2013-07-19 15:13
bye navi. or smth.
2013-07-19 15:13
dragons and wolves.. just need lions back and some stags
2013-07-19 15:13
sick lineup, I'm excited to see they playing
2013-07-19 15:13
Sad that legendary team Na'Vi lately broke up, but like always - All Roads Come to an end… And a new yourney begins. I wish all of the best luck of old navi guys, we will always remember them, they success, emotions which they gave to us.. It's so hard to say goodbye, but look from the other side, now we got one super team which will make damage to cs:go scene and will be competitor for the glory.. Can't wait to see them in action. GG Na'Vi ! :)
2013-07-19 15:14
sponcor arbalet kazakhstan company
2013-07-19 15:14
Looks sick on paper. GL!
2013-07-19 15:14
they should have Ukrainian flag considering they have 3 ukrainians in that team ? :D
2013-07-19 15:15
#224
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Germany sanity_ 
They play under khazakhian flag? So why should they get an ukranian flag?
2013-07-19 15:25
like fnatic used Danish flag
2013-07-19 15:31
fnatic had Swedish then Danish flag TCM had German then Europe flag etc..
2013-07-19 15:53
looks fucking sick ..love it! Na`Vi to look like this: starix, zeus, GuardiaN, neo, TaZ
2013-07-19 15:15
I suspect nip will change a player soon:D Also hoping for zeus and starix to team up with esc,that would be awesome :D
2013-07-19 15:16
Would be a sick move, but the likes of Neo, Taz or Guardian would never fit in(on a permanent basis) simply cuz they don't talk in Russian. Fox + Kucher sounds way more realistic.
2013-07-19 15:23
Line up is good on paper...
2013-07-19 15:17
wooooooowwwwowowowowow sick team n1ce!
2013-07-19 15:17
Time for NiP to remove fifflaren. Or do they want to play with 4½ players versus Astana Dragons?
2013-07-19 15:18
ex-Virtus.pro roster was better on paper imo, I have no doubt that these guys can improve a lot and prove me wrong but I just don't think this ended up too well.. 2 broken top teams now.
2013-07-19 15:18
Sry to burst your bubble but no it wasnt better on paper,and this is not like talking from 1.6 past,edward and markeloff transfered to go completely,especially Edward and i see markeloff playing even more now,cause the motivation will high as fuck.
2013-07-19 15:24
Seems like edward and mark wanted to take things more seriously but the rest of navi didnt But who knows:)
2013-07-19 15:19
easy for NIP
2013-07-19 15:21
markelof vs Guardian edward vs fox hmmm
2013-07-19 15:21
holy shit, great line-up on paper. gl
2013-07-19 15:22
Really cannot fault that roster at all... exciting times! Looking forward to seeing what happens to esc, navi and remaining vp members!!
2013-07-19 15:22
always wanted to see ANGE1 with markeloff glhf
2013-07-19 15:22
dts.chatrix in 2009?
2013-07-19 15:26
in cs:go *
2013-07-19 15:30
Snap dragon :x
2013-07-19 15:23
OverDrive = Chelsea Astana Dragons = Manchester City Natus Vincere = AC Milan Virtus.pro = Arsenal :DDDD
2013-07-19 15:24
Virtus.pro = Arsenal
2013-07-19 15:26
NIP=BARCELONA :D NA'VI=LIVERPOOL
2013-07-19 15:28
#289
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
NiP = Bayern Munchen not the whiny babies Barca
2013-07-19 15:36
MMM. I AGREE
2013-07-19 15:48
#411
rah | 
United Kingdom rah(-_-) 
NiP definetly barcelona because get_right likes to cry
2013-07-19 16:17
#774
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
There is a difference between being emotional and whining to the refs.
2013-07-20 02:29
VG = PSG LDLC = Monaco Then Ligue 1 > all =)
2013-07-19 15:50
#283
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
VP can't be Arsenal. VP won Starseries.
2013-07-19 15:35
aHAHAHAH
2013-07-19 17:34
More like Anexis = Arsenal got as many excuses as Arsene Wenger.
2013-07-19 15:46
+1 , they didnt win anything and we saw yesterday - they wont win anything :)
2013-07-19 16:13
This is Arbalet.
2013-07-19 15:24
POPOPO !!!!!!
2013-07-19 15:25
what a noob name Astana Dragons shit
2013-07-19 15:25
maybe Satana Dragons?
2013-07-19 16:52
lol
2013-07-19 18:20
#227
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Europe midi 
Meh, wishing all the best to GuardiaN, who can shine and carry any team. //To add, this team MUST shine, they destroyed 2 top teams for it.
2013-07-19 15:30
So now two AWPers on the team?
2013-07-19 15:26
markeloff and ... ?
2013-07-19 16:14
ANGE1?
2013-07-20 10:19
no ofc. guardian was vp's awp and now markeloff replaced him. ofc he will be the principal awp :D
2013-07-23 13:45
I think AdreN left Virtus.pro month ago because of Virtus.pro management :)
2013-07-19 15:26
Yes it's seems like this. Dosia wrote smthng like "orga made us to remove adren".
2013-07-19 15:33
I think adren was possibly the best support player in CIS area, maybe even CSGO. They clearly want to continue playing with him, he must bring something great to the table, he was a crazy madfragger in 1.6
2013-07-19 15:51
hahahahahahaha
2013-07-19 15:26
still guardian best cs:go awper :)
2013-07-19 15:26
hard to believe in that line-up. pretty close to a Dreamteam here ....
2013-07-19 15:27
hopefully this motivates forest, gtr and the gang to practice even harder. no doubt nip will have a tough time beating this superteam with the anchor that is fifflaren though
2013-07-19 15:27
Seems like an amazing team, but I wouldn't be so sure of a domination right now.
2013-07-19 15:28
cant wait to see them in action, gl
2013-07-19 15:28
+1 :D
2013-07-23 13:46
Nice way to ditch GuardiaN.
2013-07-19 15:28
it clearly standouts his lack of russian language skills that made ex-VP players to dump him, even though GuardiaN was probably at least a top2 player on that team
2013-07-19 15:36
#309
Poland rvT 
I hope he'll find a new team
2013-07-19 15:43
My honor doesn't allow me to support them.
2013-07-19 15:30
Wondering if the rest of NaVi will stop playing. As far as I remember zeus has a kid already. I just can't see them teaming up with other guys from CIS and become really good. :/
2013-07-19 15:31
+1 No one wants ceh9, zeus has a family, starix is pretty inconsistant in GO. Let's see how it goes.
2013-07-19 15:33
nice.. but, will it blend?
2013-07-19 15:31
#265
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United States 1mPeRvI0uS 
Now this is scary. Reminds me of fnatic inn the last days of 1.6
2013-07-19 15:32
BEAST lineup!! I don't know much about CSGO but from my CS 1.6 eyes this team is downright scary.
2013-07-19 15:32
:D yeah.
2013-07-19 16:25
Can't wait to see their potential at DH Bucarest
2013-07-19 15:33
can't wait to see them play they first game already haha
2013-07-19 15:33
+1 :D
2013-07-23 13:48
#276
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Serbia dekizh =DD 
Why Kazakhstan flag?
2013-07-19 15:33
Kazakh orga m8
2013-07-19 15:35
Still shouldnt be a Kazakhstan flag. Ukraine dominant team...
2013-07-19 15:42
they will most likely use Ukrainian flag later on. This is "like an introduction" to the organization and a team.
2013-07-19 15:37
#409
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Germany sanity_ 
Why? They get support from Khazakhstan basically (assuming the Esports Organisation is not just 5 dudes in a broken house). Maybe one of the points for getting sponsored is that they have to play under that flag. Astana (capitol of khazakhstan) the flag etc
2013-07-19 16:17
HLTV.org (other websites probably too) almost always uses a flag, which represents a bigger part of the team players. Virtus.pro had 2 ukrainian, 2 russian and 1 slovak player. In this case, you can't really decide which flag to use, so they've decided to go for Russian, because this team belongs to Russian organization (and also there are 2 russians on the team). In other case, for example, let's say VP organization would be from Austria with the same GO team. Then, i believe, HLTV.org & Cadred would use European flag instead of Austria, because there isn't a single player from that country. Also, it wouldn't be fair for other players, if the team would use Russian or Ukrainian flag to represent them.
2013-07-19 17:17
Nice..... Fox and Kucher will join NaVi ; Guardian retires :D
2013-07-19 15:35
I really hope that guardian can find now a great top team like esc.
2013-07-23 13:48
This lineup is fucking dangerous
2013-07-19 15:37
Like a fire in a nursing home
2013-07-19 18:14
my opinion that squad: edward, marik, ange1, adren, dosia - it's top team, I do not know what place they will occupy, but it's exactly top team, I was upset, but ceh9 said that "every story has its end", and I decided not to get upset and root for a new team which will be conquering new peaks!
2013-07-19 15:39
I hope Na'Vi will be ok...
2013-07-19 15:40
STONG
2013-07-19 15:40
OH FUCK. Thats a RIDICULOUS TEAM!
2013-07-19 15:40
VERY STRONK I feel kind of sad for all the players that got lost by the creation of this team: kucher, Fox, Zeus, starix, ceh9, GuardiaN
2013-07-19 15:44
Don't know why I've read it CSI team, and dosia ditched brother :(
2013-07-19 15:50
omg now virtus pro will be unbeatable =D
2013-07-19 15:44
Amazing lineup, Nip probably needs to consider roster changes if they wanna remain #1 team in the world.
2013-07-19 15:45
:D
2013-07-19 16:20
na vi kucher, Fox, Zeus, starix, GuardiaN wery nice
2013-07-19 15:45
na vi taz neo guardian zeus stariks
2013-07-19 15:46
remember back in 1.6 when fnatic and sk destroyed other teams just to gather a group of elite players and everyone was condemning and hoping they would fail? what happened now. everyones cheering for them.
2013-07-19 15:46
fnatic and sk made changes when they sucked,in this situation vp team was kicked from the organisation,and imo navi was getting better and better,not the same situation at all,and also sk and fnatic always took best players from lesser teams.
2013-07-19 16:31
#320
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India c0rvus 
What the fuck did I just read !!!
2013-07-19 15:47
Time to think about future, Ninjas, time to think... mcdonalds.se/se/jobbet/att_arbeta_pa_mcd..
2013-07-19 15:54
GuardiaN?
2013-07-19 15:48
maybe to esc :D
2013-07-23 13:49
Why don't they play for Navi? Navi is already a big organisation with a lot of money...
2013-07-19 15:48
Well, they just got in an organisation with a Millionaire behind. Just as Na'Vi started back then with Arbalet guy behind them - they have one here too :).
2013-07-19 15:54
Isn't "fnatic" -i mean the organisation- from Australia? I have never seen them under an Aussie flag. I think the flag of the team should be determined by the majority of the players' nationalities.
2013-07-19 15:48
There are no good players in Australia. Simple.
2013-07-19 15:51
Seriously? When mTw had Danish lineup did they have a German flag?
2013-07-19 15:52
Sorry dude. I misunderstood.
2013-07-19 19:52
#328
Czech Republic PFP 
WorldEdit still play csgo?
2013-07-19 15:49
Astana dragons :D AdreeeeN :D
2013-07-19 15:49
)))
2013-07-19 15:51
Nice team. Don't know what the hell AdreN is doing there though. I believe that's because of his connections in KESF.
2013-07-19 15:50
He's got the skill to be on this team for sure... but I think Fox or kucher would have been a better fit imo.
2013-07-19 16:01
It's supposed to be ashamed for kazakhstan, every rich person can buy players and put any flag but there will not be any glory for the team in the country... i love na'vi cs mostly because all the players were from Ukraine. it's not about game guys in this case it's all about players!
2013-07-19 15:50
#339
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Ukraine potapUA 
My honor will not let me be a fan of Astana, ukrainian and russian playing for kazachstan, thats not good, they betrayed motherland. I hope they will not be succes, poor NaVi which is representing ukraine country in so much ways will be in my heart 4ever. I hope this accident will motivate ceh9,stari and zeus to train alot, pick up 2 players from rossia or ukraine, the best would be Fox and Kucher and they will beat that Kazach orga which is good only because of money down. Do you remember how NaVi started? They had black shirt what costed like 20 dollars with low NaVi logo, they had 5 ukrainan boys who had a dream and passion, and they became number one organisation and number one Team. THATS THE SPIRIT!!!! Sorry for bad English but its not my mother language so i dont care about it.
2013-07-19 15:51
#345
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
What the actual fuck?
2013-07-19 15:52
Your English is actually pretty damn good. I understood your meaning completely.
2013-07-19 15:54
Did Ukraine not betray the motherland as well?
2013-07-19 16:02
#384
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Azerbaijan Talley 
brain... do you have it?
2013-07-19 16:05
@ K1nGKeLa and potapoff Stop fuming, please. Saying that somebody playing for other country's team is a betrayer doesn't make any sense whatsoever. This is the same as calling all Brazilian (or other nationalities) football players representing colors of Ukrainian clubs traitors. Even CS teams had mixed international rosters, fnatic, mouz, for example. If a team is able to perform on a highest level, if its play is attractive to watch, this team has absolutely all rights to exist and evolve no matter which nationalities the players are and which organization they're contracted with. The guys are making living by playing games and its up to them to decide what to choose, an attractive salary or loyalty to a team. The scene has developed from teams of several friends gathering together to play for fun to serious organizations and more or less constant paychecks. Thus, the scene has a background, at least economical one, to be considered as real sport (widely speaking). Speaking of name of the organization I'm not the one who likes it either but this is our country's trend which any foreigner will barely understand.
2013-07-19 17:56
#691
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South Africa kHYRR73 
they should be based in kz then ;) and not living in UA/RUS
2013-07-19 20:01
Ukraine is situated way closer to Europe thereby their pings will be much more favorable to pracc with European teams (cf. playing with 30-40ms delay or 150+ms).
2013-07-20 00:26
#799
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South Africa kHYRR73 
then they should have Ukranian flag
2013-07-20 08:14
which team was adren playing?
2013-07-19 15:51
vp, k23
2013-07-19 17:34
Go Astana Dragons!
2013-07-19 15:53
#353
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
I feel bad for kucher, he was the player who stood out to prove himself as one of the best. He fragged like a bitch.
2013-07-19 15:54
So steelseries gonna sponsors them after all: img842.imageshack.us/img842/1041/lzjy.pn..
2013-07-19 15:56
wow sick lineup! But "Dragons" really?
2013-07-19 15:57
#376
Czech Republic PFP 
+1
2013-07-19 16:03
I might be mistaking, but isn't Astana the name of a pro cycling organisation aswell? If I am correct, does anyone knows if this CS team is under the same organisation? Or are the names just identicle? :)
2013-07-19 15:57
Astana is the capitol city of Kazakhstan.
2013-07-19 15:58
nvm, didnt see the "Dragons"
2013-07-19 16:04
oh zynthex.
2013-07-19 16:53
oh you...
2013-07-19 18:31
oh me :(
2013-07-19 20:06
Sick lineup
2013-07-19 15:57
So, now CSGO aint dying right? Now it's probably more alive than ever right? ))
2013-07-19 15:57
#360
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Ukraine potapUA 
Sike thank you, from American its nice to have such a honourable mention.
2013-07-19 15:57
Is it a state-financed organization? Any info?
2013-07-19 15:57
Guardian for Adren and that was my dreamteam
2013-07-19 15:59
dosia left fox, sukcs a bit. neo pasha taz fox guardian. kk thx bb
2013-07-19 16:01
#369
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Ukraine potapUA 
Ukraine and Russian players playing for Kazach flag and orga. What a patriots.
2013-07-19 16:01
ahahahahhaha!!! CS-GO, WHAT ARE YOU DOING!! STOP PLZ!! AHAHAHAH)))) Brutality TEAM)))
2013-07-19 16:02
#374
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Pakistan MrHassan 
Nothing Against them but i am having a feeling that they will fail like SK-Gaming when Get_Right and Forest joined it. Every one thought SK will be unbeatable but in reality they starved for Victories. By the Way Good Luck.
2013-07-19 16:03
SK was dominating first half of the year though.
2013-07-20 06:47
NiP will smash them anyway ~
2013-07-19 16:04
This lineup would dominate on 1.6
2013-07-19 16:04
Atleast markeloff and Edward are in the same team, 2 of my favourite players<3 And Na`Vi.csgo GG.
2013-07-19 16:07
I do hope they will fail soon and disband in a couple of months! Still cheering for NaVi and very interested in new VPs lineup!
2013-07-19 16:05
why? This composition actually looks good.
2013-07-19 16:07
both VP and NaVi looked pretty strong and competitive since last time, but that new mix ruined two top teams and still NiP will be top1 in the world! so what's the point?
2013-07-19 16:14
The point is to create 1 team that can beat NiP...
2013-07-19 16:20
well the thing is that I don't see them beating NiP or even VG.
2013-07-19 16:24
But you saw Na`Vi and VP beating them ? wtf is wrong with you?
2013-07-19 17:18
Will most likely be a team that does beat NiP, but have a lot of random losses like United or whatever it was called back in 1.6.
2013-07-19 18:14
Virtus actually did it few times.
2013-07-19 20:02
sick team, GL.
2013-07-19 16:05
NiP dominating again
2013-07-19 16:11
WOOOW amazing morning ... love that team :) hope they will pracc
2013-07-19 16:11
3 ukraine, 2 russian, 1 kazakhstan... Astana? wtf?!
2013-07-19 16:16
and how u count that? 3,2,1 ??? its 3,1,1...
2013-07-23 07:03
SICK LU! gl hf
2013-07-19 16:16
Guys,i would apreciate if someone can give me more info about AdreN.
2013-07-19 16:17
U never heard before about AdreN?
2013-07-19 16:35
"Astana dragons" - I bet that such a name - the condition of the sponsor. Given the fact that in the team is only one kazakh, this is stupid selfish nationalistic decision.
2013-07-19 16:18
so you think for example all players in Manchester United are from Manchester, England ?? The organisation is from there
2013-07-19 19:17
This is 130-year CLUB. Very stupid comparison.
2013-07-19 21:05
holy shit. what a team on paper.
2013-07-19 16:20
Holy shit, what a team! NiP got something to be worried about now
2013-07-19 16:20
why? Without GuardiaN (even I'm not his fan) they will not do any damage. NiP will destroy them with their individual skill and team-chemistry VG with their tactic-game LDLC and CPH will pwn them too so..
2013-07-19 16:47
sorry but VP beat NiP 4 times in a row without guardian so youre stupid
2013-07-19 17:07
sure. still these Dragons (or what) will get pwned.. lul
2013-07-19 17:09
You're an idiot.
2013-07-19 17:39
i don't care about your opinion :)
2013-07-19 18:43
You cared enough to answer :D :D :O :D :D EHEH E: D D: :D
2013-07-20 11:34
TBH, it doesn't feel any worse than with VP.
2013-07-19 18:15
#421
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Ukraine potapUA 
Russian and Ukrainian people understand, that we will better hope for navi and virtuspro than fuckin kazach orga. Go NAVI and go VP!
2013-07-19 16:21
Xenophobic much?
2013-07-19 18:23
Na vi -ceh9 + fox guardian end kucher
2013-07-19 16:22
I don't think that they will remove ceh9...
2013-07-23 13:52
+2 in na`vi , kucher , tresh1k , seized , guardian?
2013-07-19 16:23
NiP are still the best! ;)
2013-07-19 16:23
until the first LAN :D
2013-07-23 13:53
this team on paper looks better than nip. i really think they will be top 1 right away i don't like russians or ukrainians but i'm glad it's in 100% 1.6 team :)
2013-07-19 16:23
Navi - ceh9 Navi stariks zeus neo taz guardian/fox
2013-07-19 16:24
#452
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Japan mameloff 
-1
2013-07-19 16:34
-1
2013-07-23 13:53
#430
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Ukraine potapUA 
No we dont want guardian we want russian and ukrainian players and we like ceh9
2013-07-19 16:24
who is this "we" you are referring to?
2013-07-19 16:36
opopopop gj teams
2013-07-19 16:25
#434
 | 
Ukraine potapUA 
So in NaVi Fox and Kucher!
2013-07-19 16:25
#436
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Spain akproxx 
GuardiaN no team GG............
2013-07-19 16:28
#445
 | 
Japan mameloff 
fuck this shit!! gl na`vi... youtube.com/watch?v=zQhvVdQCcNo
2013-07-19 16:32
Am I the only one who loves the name? Seems epic to me :)
2013-07-19 16:33
+1
2013-07-19 16:35
Same.
2013-07-19 16:38
I don't understand the hate either!
2013-07-19 19:40
2 weeks than disband.
2013-07-19 16:33
ofc :)))
2013-07-23 13:53
KAZAKHSTAN TEAM NUMBE 1
2013-07-19 16:33
its KAZAKHSTAN only because of sponsors its UA team 60% of team are from Ukraine how can u call it KAZAKHSTAN
2013-07-20 17:35
they love this game so they continue. nice superteam created. but that with guardian?
2013-07-19 16:35
Another shit team, folding after their first LAN.
2013-07-19 16:35
haha sorry but its not danish team
2013-07-19 16:37
Which explains why they are going to fold after their first LAN.
2013-07-19 16:58
they wont because they're not danish
2013-07-19 17:00
Lol
2013-07-19 16:38
great lineup! i'm glad edward & markeloff can play with better players. i hope they deliver some great results
2013-07-19 16:35
I doubt that GuardiaN will join NaVi because of Jean Paul Belmondo: youtube.com/watch?v=GnhKqCxZ4OM
2013-07-19 16:39
:D
2013-07-19 16:38
"How you name a boat, is how it will sail." 2-3 months => disband
2013-07-19 16:38
#525
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South Africa kHYRR73 
Astana - from nothing to something in 15 years...so probably kinda good name, and they will live there...
2013-07-19 17:11
No, they will live in Kiev. Read the article carefully.
2013-07-19 18:25
I wish luck to both teams lost their players, I do not want to see them die, and good luck to the new team has just been born, the scenario was in need of a big change.
2013-07-19 16:41
wow anywat even with dat organization they could be a top team glhf ,I hope that was a right decision! btw R.I.P. Na`Vi and VP u will never be the same:(
2013-07-19 16:43
not bad top10 team
2013-07-19 16:43
You are right about VG.
2013-07-19 16:45
why are you talking about VG lol? VG>Dragons
2013-07-19 16:48
not possible :D
2013-07-19 17:00
you're from ukraine your opinion doesn't count, since you're fanboy autmatically
2013-07-19 17:02
o_O so u think that your opinion is so important that everybody will listen to u?
2013-07-20 17:32
"fan of markeloff" it says all.
2013-07-20 19:18
yeah go on keep talking about different stuff but not answering questions
2013-07-20 21:32
okay, i will continue, np dude
2013-07-20 21:42
and now u think that u are good troll :)
2013-07-20 22:17
keep dreaming ...till the first big lan event
2013-07-23 13:54
yeah, they will fail hard just overrated team, with no chemistry.
2013-07-23 14:55
so much for edward being loyal
2013-07-19 16:44
Why CIS superteam?what does it mean?
2013-07-19 16:44
it means all the sick players from CIS area.
2013-07-19 16:45
#521
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South Africa kHYRR73 
ex. USSR
2013-07-19 17:07
#480
reatz | 
Poland Keruzz 
RIP NA'VI
2013-07-19 16:45
they not closed the cs:go division
2013-07-23 13:55
this is dreamteam? lol dreamteam: OverDrive, pops, Ozstrik3r, Rara, zE-
2013-07-19 16:46
dude.... OverDrive, Oztrik3r, Fifflaren, ceh9, flex0r!!!
2013-07-19 18:17
+1, but not in this dimension
2013-07-23 13:55
RIP NAVI , RIP VP !
2013-07-19 16:46
well glhf,I think that fact that this is orga from Kz doesnt really matter so I wish u all the luck,I hope that this decision wasn't wrong... btw R.I.P. Na`Vi and VP,u will never be the same:(
2013-07-19 16:47
O_O
2013-07-19 16:48
2013-07-19 16:49
why kind of ugly sausage is this?
2013-07-19 16:51
wtf????, it's all the same to me
2013-07-19 16:55
I mean on the profile picture..
2013-07-19 16:57
i just think this new twitter, because Fox in your twitter (laughed)(laughing) with your friend with profile picture too, but i don't now why =))))))))
2013-07-19 17:04
new twitter AD
2013-07-19 17:05
hahahah
2013-07-19 17:41
#498
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Russia AR4ER 
0_o nice!!!)
2013-07-19 16:54
the team of 2013-2014 in 1.6 they should be like SK 2005
2013-07-19 17:01
#524
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South Africa kHYRR73 
if they will be based in KZ they will train or they have to train with Uzbek teams...i would say that if STORM are still playing, - they will rape apart this squad))
2013-07-19 17:09
"The team will be housed in Kiev, Ukraine, similar to how Natus Vincere got started in 2010."
2013-07-19 19:19
#693
 | 
South Africa kHYRR73 
then it is lame to have KZ flag :)
2013-07-19 20:03
Guardian zeus starix taz neo
2013-07-19 17:02
I don't think that it will work...3 different languages and zeus has problems with english
2013-07-23 13:57
Welcome new top CS:GO Team Go home NiP!
2013-07-19 17:02
In your dreamz maybe.
2013-07-19 17:05
#510
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Greece her-1g 
beast team!! fifflaren to navi now! ahaahah
2013-07-19 17:02
hahaahah
2013-07-23 13:58
sorry to disappoint u guys but still get_right is no 1 & f0rest is no2 player in the world with xizt being no. 1 igl & friberg one of the best entry fragger. Overall nip is still the best superstar team for me, so whatever dragons come they ll be crushed by nip. gg
2013-07-19 17:02
haha kinda funny you didnt mention fifflaren :D
2013-07-19 17:04
this!
2013-07-19 17:05
ok lol.
2013-07-19 17:23
Just imagine if they had the same chemistry with another one than fifflaren :O
2013-07-19 18:18
Everybody would be fucked even more
2013-07-19 19:22
#522
aizy | 
Poland flvcko 
Illuminati Dragons
2013-07-19 17:07
what
2013-07-19 17:43
Is Astana Dragons similar to the Astana Pro Cycling?
2013-07-19 17:12
#529
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South Africa kHYRR73 
kind of, I guess
2013-07-19 17:13
As in it's named after the capitol city of Kazakhstan? Sure.
2013-07-19 17:13
People are so bad at Geography, clearly that's just a cool word right? Not a capital city of a country.
2013-07-19 17:58
did you found it on wikipedia? :))))))))))
2013-07-23 13:58
so, shit just got real :D
2013-07-19 17:12
Line-up is too strong! But how navi is going to find replacements for them. These 2 guys carried navi in 1.6 and csgo now navi wont be the same.
2013-07-19 17:13
russian community + ukrainian community + beast line up = now CS:GO will reach 50k easily.
2013-07-19 17:18
#543
Czech Republic PFP 
change adren to neo or taz cs go will reach 50k :D
2013-07-19 17:30
lol -adren +neo would make many people here jizz in their pants
2013-07-19 17:33
R.I.P Na´Vi
2013-07-19 17:18
AD gona beat NiP, NiP gona -fliffaren and the cycle begins.
2013-07-19 17:19
i really hope Na'Vi can stand up from ashes and dominate once again showing those 2 traitors what it's all about!
2013-07-19 17:20
remove that "superteam" ffs..
2013-07-19 17:19
How does this insane lineup not constitute the usage of the word super-team? On paper this is the best CS lineup ever put together... it is an HLTV.org fanbois wet dream.
2013-07-19 17:46
Too bad we never saw a team of f0rest, neo, markeloff, edward, gtr in 1.6. Haha wonder what they would say about that mix and their chances to beat top teams on podcast.
2013-07-19 18:12
imo they're overrated..
2013-07-19 18:44
says a dude with foxj listed on favorite players :DDDD.
2013-07-20 09:21
you probably never watched foxj plays.. this dude is machine with awp ))
2013-07-20 14:50
bad idea. it won't last that long.
2013-07-19 17:22
will wait for their first LAN appearance!
2013-07-19 17:27
I just can't see it working out like it should on paper
2013-07-19 17:27
why? same language and high skilled players ALL 5
2013-07-23 13:59
navi +taz,pasha/neo pls..
2013-07-19 17:32
yep would be nice... starix, neo, taz, Zeus, ceh9/pasha
2013-07-19 17:45
would be a good team, but weaker than Na'Vi was still IMO
2013-07-19 17:53
tnx bro! i'm gonna miss them:(
2013-07-19 18:08
OMG WOOOOOW THERES NO WAY ANY TEAM CAN WIN AAINST THIS TEAM WOOOOOW! THAAAATS ITTT! THE END OF NIP AND NIP WILL GO BUNKRUPT AFTER LOSING 16:0 TO THIS TEAM EVERY TIME THEY MEAT~! :) WOOOOW! :D any haters? its Friday, just have to mess around a bit before the drinking begins :)
2013-07-19 17:45
YEEEEEEEEEEEEAH NIP GOING DOWN DOWN!!! new domination team!
2013-07-19 17:50
Yesterday was Thursday Today is -Friday-
2013-07-19 17:50
no doubt :P
2013-07-19 17:55
fun fun fun fun
2013-07-19 18:26
They are mad guys!(((
2013-07-19 17:54
LOL This tag smashes my head :D:D:D
2013-07-19 17:55
#569
elemeNt | 
Portugal RL1R 
what CIS means? :S
2013-07-19 17:55
The Commonwealth of Independent States.
2013-07-19 17:57
#575
elemeNt | 
Portugal RL1R 
ty :)
2013-07-19 17:57
Former USSR countries :D
2013-07-19 19:32
Pretty baller team, still - did it really benefit the eastern CS scene to form a potential #1 team by destroying the lineups of two very well established organizations in the form of Na´Vi and Virtus.pro? Virtus.pro we won't be seeing picking up a CS:GO division anymore I don't think, and Na´Vi doesn't really have all that much to chose from besides kucher and Fox. GuardiaN's future is still unknown, maybe he will team up with ESC after Loord's retirement, but is he really what the team needs?
2013-07-19 17:56
CS GO die? Haha! CS never die. GL Dragons! I think in few next days we will see more information than like this.
2013-07-19 17:57
this is CSGO not CS ... ))
2013-07-19 18:03
borat-gaming
2013-07-19 18:00
omg, what's going on? i dont believe it
2013-07-19 18:03
GL SLAVIC DRAGONS !
2013-07-19 18:04
decent team
2013-07-19 18:04
new roster and their main sponsor s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20130719/BTOVO6Pn..
2013-07-19 18:05
hahahahahaahhHAHAhahah
2013-07-19 18:06
hahahaha SAAACHAAA <3
2013-07-19 18:09
hahahahahahahahaha XD
2013-07-19 18:11
xD
2013-07-19 18:23
TROLOLOLOLO:D:D:D
2013-07-19 19:05
v3d1m4k should apply for na`vi spot
2013-07-19 18:05
I miss the old times :( Shame CS:GO...
2013-07-19 18:05
NIP PREPARE YOUR ANUS
2013-07-19 18:12
for what? see low elo markeloff play CSGO? Hah!
2013-07-19 18:17
nah, but markeloff isnt the bestest in dragons that's true
2013-07-19 18:18
GTR can handle those 5 players alone.
2013-07-19 18:22
gtr can only kill people from behind.
2013-07-19 19:00
so Dragons should prepare their anus I assume :D
2013-07-19 19:57
ahhahaha
2013-07-19 20:16
olololo :D
2013-07-20 12:02
xD
2013-07-20 18:48
i like anuss in nonne gay wauy
2013-07-24 01:46
3 player from Ukraine, the base located in Ukraine, IT UKRAINIAN TEAM
2013-07-19 18:15
#729
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Germany sanity_ 
It plays for the kazakhian esports federation, therefor they should be using the kazakhian flag (to represent their sponsor) ?
2013-07-19 21:21
#610
Ukraine rim 
hahahaha loool
2013-07-19 18:21
this is the old vp
2013-07-19 18:24
lold
2013-07-19 18:57
i know
2013-07-19 19:06
sry
2013-07-19 19:06
you're the man! ROFL
2013-07-19 19:12
:D
2013-07-19 20:05
#623
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Russia scrdmn 
VG - REAL MADRID NIP - SPARTAK MOSCOW
2013-07-19 18:31
lol
2013-07-19 21:01
Guardian & Fox in Na'Vi?? :) If the new line up will hurt :o
2013-07-19 18:33
now i will support navi even more
2013-07-19 18:33
GLHF Dragons:D vk.com/astanadragons_fan
2013-07-19 18:37
IMBA
2013-07-19 18:38
i might start to watch streams for this lineup
2013-07-19 18:41
This team is so OP,plz Valve nerf it.
2013-07-19 18:46
oh god, this team will rock!
2013-07-19 18:48
F*** Markeloff F*** Edward i wasnt a FAN of these 2..but now they r completely Dead to me
2013-07-19 18:49
I liked the old Na´Vi better :)
2013-07-19 18:50
I liked the old Na´Vi better than this team..
2013-07-19 18:51
#644
Ukraine rim 
taz and neo join Navi gogo
2013-07-19 18:51
i still will follow navi, why not?
2013-07-19 18:52
Kazakhstan reminds me of the movie BORAT.
2013-07-19 19:07
this sounds promising. Can't wait for the next big tourney to kick off... :D
2013-07-19 19:13
fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-a.. 100% i know who's behind them now!
2013-07-19 19:13
=D
2013-07-19 20:54
1 NIP 2 VG 3 Dragons 4 WW 5 CPH
2013-07-19 19:16
this team will shoot headshots '-'
2013-07-19 19:18
:o
2013-07-19 19:28
Wow I really hope NaVi can bounce back from this. It would be devastating for the scene if they ended up closing their CS:GO team.
2013-07-19 19:25
#673
Ukraine rim 
go in SK-gaming :D
2013-07-19 19:30
Good luck, will be interesting for sure.
2013-07-19 19:32
Lex said that he wanted to sign ex-ESC pasha neo kuben taz +guardian
2013-07-19 19:44
wow, it would be awesome!
2013-07-19 19:58
Awesome lineup
2013-07-19 20:13
instead of kuben starix will be sick
2013-07-19 23:02
Very interesting lineup. I'm looking forward to cheer against them. I hope they will sick and disband. Ggkthxbye
2013-07-19 19:45
I already imagine Navi VS DRagons, and Senya screaming: "Sosat' BLYAT'!"
2013-07-19 19:46
omg amazing lineup
2013-07-19 19:57
#690
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
neo taz edward markeloff dosia would have been better.
2013-07-19 20:00
ange1 >> neo not to mention the language barrier, all players in this team speak russian
2013-07-19 20:35
yep in go angel>neo 1.6 neo>all
2013-07-19 20:59
who cares about 1.6 now?!
2013-07-20 01:47
Yeah, and what about sponsor? Hint: AdreN.
2013-07-19 20:59
a lot of replacements when 1 team is so dominant (like Na'Vi in 2010) This line up is real CIS allstars
2013-07-19 20:04
#697
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Russia coolakaoff 
The way of Stolyarov brothers has split ((( they"ve been playing together for about 10 years or even more. Always in on team. This makes me sad
2013-07-19 20:09
I wonder if this topic reaches 1000 posts
2013-07-19 20:23
EZ
2013-07-19 20:29
lol looks like it will! already 900+ haha
2013-07-23 16:48
easy peazy
2013-07-19 20:35
gogo guys !!
2013-07-19 20:40
#712
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Brazil akak1 
LOL nicee
2013-07-19 20:41
omg
2013-07-19 20:46
I neither want to say that this is good or bad. Of course, two teams splitting up to merge one team is actually a loss. But only if the remaining players go inactive. Otherwise they'll form a new team/get picked up. And then they'll play and their results will indicate if it is better or worse. Time will tell.
2013-07-19 20:51
They will spend at least three months figuring out roles in the game before they get close to nip.
2013-07-19 20:52
who will be awp in this crazy team????
2013-07-19 21:03
est varianty?
2013-07-19 22:10
NiP prepare your anus !!
2013-07-19 21:07
lol
2013-07-19 23:11
vaseline! :D
2013-07-20 02:49
I think the Nip players is laughting about this desperation by making 2 teams to 1. In the end, they will Get_raped if NiP start pracc again.
2013-07-20 07:24
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
2013-07-23 14:02
Nice team
2013-07-19 21:11
gl guys
2013-07-19 21:15
do they have a website? and where does the name come from?
2013-07-19 21:42
"Astana" capital of Kazakhstan
2013-07-20 15:01
#731
Pieter | 
Netherlands Grifte 
Amazing line-up, almost all my favourite CIS players teamed up :)
2013-07-19 21:45
dragon vs ninja? lol
2013-07-19 21:47
haha it will be intresting :D
2013-07-23 14:02
GLHF
2013-07-19 22:06
sick lineup, if all give maximum i think they will destroy all
2013-07-19 22:20
f0rest > ALL f0rest > Markeloff GTR = AdreN Xizt > Ange Edward > Friberg Dosia > fiff gona be close.
2013-07-19 23:02
GTR = AdreN ???? GTR is without a doubt #1 in the world. The rest I can agree with though.
2013-07-20 02:07
Gtr is sick but not number 1. Also NIP have lost to VP a lot more than they have beaten them when it counts and AdreN has played better than GTR. Gtr is not as good as he was at the start of this game and AdreN only plays with 100ping which sucks. Watch him be a beast now!!! Remember I said AdreN is on that level when this team kicks off!
2013-07-20 20:44
hahahah the thing about gtr and adren
2013-07-20 12:23
fuck u edward n markeloff , I loved Na'Vi so much! This lineup--->FAIL
2013-07-19 23:02
this will be a match for nip, but really the time that nip notice that this team can match their lvl they can always kick fiffy and add flusha or delpan etc
2013-07-19 23:11
And really this name "Astana Dragons" sounds like some new LOTR dragon race, or a pet on skyrim
2013-07-19 23:14
- ANGE1 + Neo ;p
2013-07-19 23:32
Ukrainian golden five destroyed, so sad T_T
2013-07-19 23:49
Surprised Overdrive isnt in the team, by far the best Russian player.
2013-07-19 23:51
2013-07-20 00:33
-__-
2013-07-20 02:32
This isn't even csgo squad lmfao... dota players on the picture...
2013-07-21 12:51
#762
 | 
Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
VP to recruit remaining G5 with GuardiaN VP breaks up GuardiaN to Na`Vi Remaining G5 retires ; A ;
2013-07-20 00:40
well if csgo get silencers plus new movement this could bring a halt to team changing crazyness we're seeing atm
2013-07-20 02:19
#801
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
Not gonna make a difference, since these changes aren't because of CS:GO itself. I have a feeling if neo and co. get teamed with GuardiaN they won't have such good team chemistry.
2013-07-20 08:34
how the fuck will silencer help when u have bullet tracing in csgo? :D People need to fucking realize that :D
2013-07-21 12:50
703 posts :D
2013-07-20 00:54
GoGoGoGoGo Astana-Dragons. Cant wait anymore for the first match.
2013-07-20 01:51
1st match will be played ~10 september on DreamHack.
2013-07-20 02:22
If the Communication is alright and if markeloff has a good day they will beat NiP - no doubt.
2013-07-20 02:21
good to see marik and ioann together !!:D but Fox was playing good, so ., well , anyway amazing team right now! :D
2013-07-20 02:48
Fox should have joined the team instead of Adren...
2013-07-20 03:20
lol
2013-07-20 03:53
circus
2013-07-20 05:09
R.I.P. Na'Vi
2013-07-20 05:33
Guardian's fanboys are crying, "OMG, my idol is teamless again."
2013-07-20 05:50
I am a fan of AstanaDragons from my early childhood days.
2013-07-20 06:24
s detsva za ad ))?
2013-07-20 10:03
Adren had left CS so many times... more than Krusty in simpsons I think.
2013-07-20 06:30
actually, he left Virtus.pro on may to play some shit f2p for his country at the asian championship
2013-07-20 07:19
nvm
2013-07-20 07:33
As Dosia has stated: the virtus.pro players were forced to kick Adren.
2013-07-20 10:35
oh, sorry then, I'm unable now to read/watch all the shit happening around virtus.pro
2013-07-20 12:23
did he and his team actually won that event?
2013-07-21 10:50
no, they got bronze. I've already said it earlier ;)
2013-07-21 12:14
now thats a team. just hope they put in enough practise hours. definately have the potential to completely rape everybody in csgo atm.
2013-07-20 06:35
#792
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Pakistan $Bills$ 
Reminds me of HellRaisers. Watch out NiP!
2013-07-20 06:54
+1, the "beta version" of 2010 navi so to speak :P.
2013-07-20 09:27
neo, taz join navi!
2013-07-20 07:59
Sure, how they will speak when Zeus doesn't speak English and only speaks Russian?
2013-07-20 11:18
#816
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
Neo Taz Zeus Starix Guardian
2013-07-20 11:08
hmm changes so changes!
2013-07-20 11:20
They look strong on paper, but will they manage to live up to the hype, that is the whole other story.
2013-07-20 11:36
3 place - StarLadder V Copenhagen Games 2013 4 place - TechLabs Moscow 2013 5-8 Mad Catz CS:GO Invitational 2013 silver 2 place - Pro Gamer Series Exponor 2012 silver 2 place - Copenhagen Games 2012 1 place - TECHLABS Cup Russia 2012 silver 2 place - GameGune 2012 silver 2 place - IEM 6 World Championship 1 place - IEM 6 GC Kiev silver 2 place - ESWC 2011 silver 2 place - SEC 2011 3 place - WCG Ukraine 2011 3 place - e-Stars Seoul 2011 3 place - ASUS Summer 2011 3 place - Gamegune 2011 1 place - Adepto BH Open 2011 3 place - DreamHack Summer 2011 1 place - ASUS Cup Spring 2011 1 place - OSPL Spring 2011 1 place - Intel Challenge Super Cup 7 1 place - Intel Extreme Masters V World Championship 4 place - Intel Extreme Masters V European Finals 1 place - DreamHack Winter 2010 4 place - WEM 2010 1 place - World Cyber Games 2010 3 place - ASUS Summer 2010 3 place - Intel Extreme Masters V Challenge Shanghai 3 place - Gamegune 2010 1 place - Arbalet Cup Dallas 1 place - ESWC 2010 silver 2 place - Arbalet Cup Europe 1 place - Arbalet Cup Best of Four 1 place - Arbalet Cup Ukraine 1 place - Intel Extreme Masters IV World Championship 1 place - Arbalet Cup Asia 1 place - Arbalet Cup Asia UA Qualifiers 5 place - Intel Extreme Masters IV Europeans Finals RIP NA`VI
2013-07-20 12:28
#857
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Chile Cristoff 
WCG 2010 Final between Navi vs mTw ...what a match ! =(
2013-07-20 19:03
my favorite match ever. on tuscan in beginning there were only eco wins :)))) just AWESOME
2013-07-23 14:03
adren like switch weapon like starix shit habit
2013-07-20 13:00
if in cs 1.6, the best line for the navi, pos perch, would be: Zeus ceh9 starix + bondik & z1
2013-07-20 13:36
bondik&craft1k
2013-07-20 14:09
no, z1 was amazing awp so z1 and bond1k
2013-07-20 14:36
i think z1 & craft1k
2013-07-20 16:03
Will this be the new Star Wars? The battle between Ninjas in Pyjamas and Astana Dragons. So cool, can't wait to see them play eachother.
2013-07-20 13:45
Finally another team with "Dragons" in its name :D
2013-07-20 15:46
gogog :))))))
2013-07-20 15:54
Sick line-up but what a terrible name.
2013-07-20 17:00
vp? starix Zeus TaZ Neo pasha
2013-07-20 18:47
bo
2013-07-21 01:20
if this team would come they would go under Na`Vi tag since they pay more salary + zerogravity is like the best team manager...
2013-07-21 12:47
AMAZING LINE UP
2013-07-20 20:57
LOL RIP NIP .... Markeloff and Adren on the same team ..... its over
2013-07-21 01:26
+1 the whole line up is great!
2013-07-21 10:01
f0rest + GeT_RiGhT on the same team, dominate the game since jesus born
2013-07-22 00:41
Vanya :( comeback, please
2013-07-21 07:21
I think this is the last chance of lifting the game up. If this squad fails,that means nip'll monopolize the game. and this will cause comp. scene of cs:go'll be pretty dead
2013-07-21 11:41
Wow. Strong line up. But to all you kids out there writing; "GG NiP, RIP NiP" etc. Really? Dèjá vu? GLHF though!
2013-07-21 13:14
#893
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
GeT_RiGhT is gonna smash them.
2013-07-21 15:30
Sick line-up... Good luck for these guys, although it's really pity that those 2 left Na`Vi...
2013-07-21 17:02
starix zeus cen9 B1ad3 strike ? )))
2013-07-21 19:24
kakoi strike blat'
2013-07-21 21:23
Zeus starik neo taz guardian NAVI
2013-07-21 21:28
sick lineup:)
2013-07-22 01:45
bullshit, do you actually understand polish and ukrainian are different? even tho they share lots of similiar words
2013-07-22 02:00
sry wrong reply:D
2013-07-22 02:00
lol
2013-07-22 03:12
-AdreN +starix
2013-07-22 02:17
dream team: neo markeloff edward dosia guardian
2013-07-22 06:02
GOOOO GOOOOO :)
2013-07-22 06:19
horrible name but it doesn't matter because they will soon have the following tags SK.AdreN SK.ANGE1 SK.Dosia SK.Edward SK.markeloff or fnatic.AdreN fnatic.ANGE1 fnatic.Dosia fnatic.Edward fnatic.markeloff
2013-07-22 09:42
NO NO NO !!!!!
2013-07-22 12:16
definitely not going to happenn.
2013-07-22 12:24
SK <333333
2013-07-22 12:48
their current sponsor support them mostly because of the country. like a small tourism investment
2013-08-24 23:36
Superteam ?? I don't think. Nostalgie's players are better lapidary to GO like players from Vincere. Oh and still is here NIP.
2013-07-22 12:21
is here nip yes here is nip is
2013-07-22 13:26
This is most definitely a super-team. Wait and see.
2013-07-22 18:04
#921
 | 
Ukraine generalUA 
- Adren + starix
2013-07-22 14:01
AdreN >> starix
2013-07-22 14:04
csgo rip
2013-07-22 14:24
ggglhf <3
2013-07-22 14:27
both edward and markeloff are better then others navi players ..
2013-07-22 16:55
starix was a sick player too but not a constant player :/
2013-07-23 13:42
starix was sick in 1.6 not in go
2013-07-23 14:04
this means that you don's saw all of na'vi's matches
2013-07-23 14:08
"don's saw"?? good english
2013-07-23 14:56
hahahahaha sad but true
2013-07-23 14:58
starix and the others was great players on cs 1.6 but they cant find their lvl on csgo :P they started csgo very late ..
2013-07-23 15:09
starix had a great time in cs:go...last times he was weaker but...
2013-07-23 15:14
i m not saying that he is a bad player but mate he is not on the lvl that both markeloff and edward have it ;)
2013-07-23 15:16
#964
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Ukraine potapUA 
Well Zeus is a tactic leader he doesnt need to play as good as Edward or something like that, when hes 1v1 he has to win it as a CL to give good mentality to the team but try it to be a clan leader its so hard, you need to analyze the whole game, make the right tactics, say to all players what they have to do where they have to be and than you need to make frags and pay attention on your own game too. Ceh9 is amazing player and hes on same lvl as all NaVi players, he has just his support team role, hes not main fragger so thats why he doesnt have much kills in team, for those who are navi fans they know how it is in NaVi + he showed vs nip and good teams good clutch skills. Starix played amazing vs Ninjas he did 1v4 every round when ninjas went to B site he fragged 1 at least. Edward and Marik are a part of navi so its kind off weird that theyre leaving NaVi, but theyre not irrecoverable. NaVi has got many choices how to create a good team again, i think they should get Kucher at Edwards position because Kucher is very good aimer + he could have a good motivation and start to train even harder and for mariks position you can pick up every sniper cuz marik wasnt so good at GO with awp, he was at normall skill level that have all PG AWP players so NaVi can pick up Fox or even GuardiaN would be gr8 choice cuz he was learning when he was playing with VP Russian language and hes a teammate of Kucher.
2013-07-23 15:55
More news regarding Na`Vi's future were promised to be published on July 22nd, but its now 23rd and still n0thing ;( Give us some drAma pls!!! Mor3 Mor3 Mor3 pls!!! youtube.com/watch?v=qdLxWUE-mSI
2013-07-23 16:47
cant wait for first game :D
2013-07-26 06:15
2 games already, two losses!! these dragons are overrated btw
2013-08-24 23:35
I bet he knows that already, since his post was made at 26 july...
2013-08-24 23:49
i know he does... probably. anyhow just saying...
2013-08-25 00:13
lets wait till lan... ok
2013-08-25 03:09
AstanaGabnons
2013-08-24 22:48
NOOBSDRAGONS
2013-08-24 22:52
dong
2015-03-30 18:52
#981
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Vietnam yolesnoobs 
focking hell
2015-03-30 18:55
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