Thorin removed from casting crew

MIRAA
March 13th, 2014 15:53

British caster Duncan "Thorin" Shields has been removed by the ESL from the casting crew for EMS One Katowice following some inappropriate comments made about Poland.

Shields had been hired by the ESL to work as an analyst throughout EMS One Katowice, but as the first matches were played, the spectators were left wondering where the British caster was.

It turned out that Shields had been fired by the ESL over some inappropriate comments he made about Poland during a recent podcast of the 'Unfiltered' show.

Among other things, Shields labelled Poland "one of the worst countries in Europe" and compared the ESL staging the event in Katowice to the Olympics being held in Africa, esportsheaven reports.

Over at reddit, ESL's Head of Commentary, Paul "ReDeYe" Chaloner, commented on this issue, saying:

"Duncan ‘Thorin’ Shields has been removed from the analyst/commentary position for the EMS One Katowice broadcast due to his comments about Poland that he made on a recent podcast ‘Unfiltered’.

"ESL does not stand by or tolerate acts of racism, xenophobia or other forms of discrimination and does not wish to be associated or employ those who make any such comments. We are deeply upset that a long time member of the esports community would display such ignorance and make highly inappropriate comments about an entire nation.

"Thorin’s tirade has offended not only the live audience of the show he was hired to work on, but the entire Polish production team that he was going to be a part of.

"I have spoken to Thorin directly this morning. It has been made clear to him that his comments were totally unacceptable and inconsistent with ESL’s ethos.

"It is unfortunate that we have to do this on the first day of the EMS One Katowice show, but we are hard at work to replace Thorin on the show and rest assured are determined to bring a great show regardless."

The casting lineup for EMS One Katowice now looks as follows:

  • United Kingdom Sean Charles - Host
  • United Kingdom Lauren "Pansy" Scott - Commentator
  • United States Jason Kaplan - Commentator
  • United Kingdom Stuart "TosspoT" Saw - Commentator
  • United States Scott "SirScoots" Smith - Analyst
  • Canada Joshua "steel" Nissan - Observer
good, what did he said about poland?
2014-03-13 15:55
+
2014-03-14 00:58
#653
NEO | 
Poland camarpl 
oh boy, maybe someone tried to rob him in poland or something cause I don't know why would anyone be THAT mad for no particular reason
2014-03-14 10:45
#714
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Estonia swag420weed 
But its all true
2016-06-28 19:33
Have you even read this? I don't think so.
2014-03-13 15:58
7 mins ago this post wasn't so expanded as it's now
2014-03-13 16:00
Ahh I see, my mistake then.
2014-03-13 16:05
i really like poland, it's a country that i would like to visit some day! thorin will not be casting no more in my oppinion
2014-03-13 22:09
bad
2014-03-13 16:07
#715
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Germany No_Kappa 
lol
2016-11-16 19:13
lul
2014-03-13 15:54
Wow
2014-03-13 15:54
Rofl what did he say ?
2014-03-13 15:54
yeah, what did he say?!
2014-03-13 15:55
#61
2014-03-13 16:06
Try reading the article.
2014-03-13 15:56
"one of the worst countries in Europe" That's it ?I thought there was more, that's why I asked.
2014-03-13 16:05
"ESL does not stand by or tolerate acts of racism, xenophobia or other forms of discrimination and does not wish to be associated or employ those who make any such comments. " I guess he was racist and also somehow has anything to do with xenophobia which I actually think is a serious statement to throw at someone... Anyway ya, it doesnt say what excatly he said, but I haev a feeling Thoorin will have his version of the story posted here soon... More drama incoming...
2014-03-13 16:09
"I guess he was racist and also somehow has anything to do with xenophobia which I actually think is a serious statement to throw at someone..." +1 Plus, what he said had nothing to do with racism and xenophobia. youtube.com/watch?v=R4wVBu7n6aw&feature=..
2014-03-13 16:10
So lez wait then for his story... woohooo... gotta buy popcorn
2014-03-13 16:13
"Well it’s in Poland and I think the tickets are pretty cheap so I assume it will be sold out.. Because what the fuck else is going on in Poland? And they’ve got that existential hole of being Polish to try and fill with some esports.” “Maybe, it’s like when you have the Olympics somewhere in Africa and they can all pretend they’re part of the developed world for two weeks, and then everyone just leaves and they’re still in the dirt.” “Poland is one of the worst countries in Europe, bro. It’s one of those countries where when they opened up that Schengen Agreement for European countries, where if you’re in the EU you can move freely between countries.. Like, the second they opened that up everyone in Poland was just like “Cool, let’s get the fuck out of Poland” and they just went to the next countries.” “Put it this way, it’s another place also where there’s constantly news stories where at their football games they have straight up racism aimed at all black players, with the whole crowd like chanting stuff or throwing banana peels. That happened like 50 years ago in the developed European countries - that shit happens, like, now in Poland.” “If you hold the event somewhere shitty, then it’s going to seem awesome and loads more people will come.” I'd say that counts as racism.
2014-03-13 17:27
try reading the definition of racism, because none of that is racist.
2014-03-13 17:43
It can easily be construed as racism because he is literally saying Polish people live in dirt and being derogatory towards their standing in the EU. You saying that none of that is racist is as bold a statement as if Thorin saying it was just light hearted jokes. It isn't xenophobic no, but it stills falls under the same category.
2014-03-13 18:53
"Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently" I don't think what thorin did there is considered as racism.
2014-03-13 18:57
what he said can be taken as ranking poland as an inferior race based on less than desirable things that happen in the country, he literally called them shit. if he were describing every country he visits the same way then you could call it consistency and that the guy is just a hater, but i'm sure he wouldn't be that offensive if the event was held in the UK, thus he probably does think poland should be treated differently. all taken from your definition.
2014-03-14 03:54
Well I don't see anything in there that is incorrect. Obv he sounds like a dick, but I don't see any racism there.
2014-03-13 18:00
it probably counts as nation-based discrimination. Also i doubt any court will help him.
2014-03-13 18:44
#374
Poland n1u 
Read more
2014-03-13 17:28
I got better, watch the video where he talks about it. There isn't anything more which you can consider as racism or xenophobia.
2014-03-13 17:44
"And they’ve got that existential hole of being Polish to try and fill with some esports" ...
2014-03-13 20:14
wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!
2014-03-13 17:58
HATEE HATEE HATEE HO
2014-03-13 18:06
xD
2014-03-13 15:54
#6
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Europe _jUNGLE 
racist
2014-03-13 15:54
huehuehue ginger
2014-03-13 15:54
#53
NEO | 
Ireland Debson 
Kappa
2014-03-13 15:56
GreyFace
2014-03-13 16:01
omg thorin..
2014-03-13 15:54
Deserved, you xenophobe.
2014-03-13 15:54
lol give me a video on this:D
2014-03-13 15:54
oh this is gold:DDD
2014-03-13 15:56
Edit: wrong reply.
2014-03-13 16:11
it's funny how his opinion is based on what his friend had said... and it's totally true. Firstly I was against him, but now, when I've watched it. Hmm, maybe football was the only bad idea. And openning sentence. Football is still full of racism around the world.
2014-03-13 22:31
Well, he pretty much deserved it then I think. I like Thorin, but he should at least try to be a bit more professional.
2014-03-13 15:58
#106
SpawN | 
Slovakia mBust3r 
wow.. what the actual fuck
2014-03-13 15:59
ok thats way too amazing <3 thorin
2014-03-13 16:00
wow, talked like an asshole. That was ridiculous, really unecessary.
2014-03-13 16:08
+1
2014-03-13 18:51
Someone was having a period right there. Speaking about Schengen and how Poles emigrated - he's probably mad because they "took his job" AND made it better.
2014-03-13 16:11
+1 angry ginger
2014-03-13 16:36
Now that he is unemployed, someone should suggest that he go to Poland to try to get a job as a plumber ;D
2014-03-13 16:50
He would probably end up distributing leaflets though :D
2014-03-13 16:57
they do it cheaper not necessary better :)
2014-03-13 18:44
Thankfully you know nothing about it so your 'opinion' doesn't really matter.
2014-03-13 19:00
what a dick
2014-03-13 16:16
expected?
2014-03-13 15:54
xenophobia
2014-03-13 15:54
#13
forsaken | 
Slovenia dn1 
HAHAHAHAHAHA
2014-03-13 15:54
FREEDOM OF SPEECH NEVER EXISTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2014-03-13 15:54
as you can see it exists
2014-03-13 15:55
He has the freedom to speak whatever he wants. It doesn't mean it should go unpunished, though.
2014-03-13 15:55
Yes it does.
2014-03-13 16:01
No it doesn't. He has the freedom to say these things, but that doesn't mean it won't get consequenses. He won't be legally punished(hence the freedom of speech), but ESL has the right to put actions towards him because of it. Just because you are legally free to say something doesn't mean it won't get consequenses elsewhere. And still, you can't say anything you want legally either. For instance I can't threaten your life on the basis of freedom of speech.
2014-03-13 16:10
"He has the freedom to say these things, but that doesn't mean it won't get consequenses" That's not how freedom of speech works, like not at all.
2014-03-13 16:14
Then how about freedom to employ?
2014-03-13 16:18
You can think whatever you want, no one can take that from you, but whenever you are punished for something you said, you can't call yourself free to talk your mind, that's just not right.
2014-03-13 16:20
"your freedom ends where another's begins"
2014-03-13 16:27
We actually had a philosophy test about this.
2014-03-13 16:29
You do realise that, just like almost all other freedoms, freedom of speech is not absolute?
2014-03-13 16:53
Yes
2014-03-13 17:05
That's like saying "Let's have a listen to what this pedophile has to say, freedom of speech gives him the right."
2014-03-14 13:28
I think you are confused. I am not entirely sure as to what you are trying to say because I do not see how the debate about pedophilia is related to the debate about freedom of speech (even pedophiles have a freedom of speech, they simply do not have the freedom to engage in sexual relations with minors). But, in fact, I said the opposite of what you may think I might have said.
2014-03-14 14:21
He's free to say whatever he wants, and EMS , as a private company, can choose not to employ him if they want. FREEDOM!
2014-03-13 16:54
they can choose to do what they want, true, but their reasons aren't true. They just called thorin a racist and xenophobe, which is quite serious.
2014-03-13 17:06
No, they said his comments were xenophobic, which is true. They never said he as a person is xenophobic.
2014-03-13 20:33
#312
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Brazil hono 
So you can say whatever you want even if you disrespect other people? What about getting your teeth smashed then?
2014-03-13 16:49
Did I say that ?I said you can't get punish if what you said was okay, but this is a very subjective issue. For example in France, a humorist made fun of a very specific part of the jewish community, his shows got canceled by supreme court (which is run by a jew), meanwhile another humorist made fun of the rwanda genocide, medias and politics said that was "free speech".
2014-03-13 16:55
#379
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Brazil hono 
I don't think is very subjetive. It's pretty clear to me when someone is trying to make a point about something or just offending someone/people. You're free to talk about ideas and thoughts about everything, you're free to claim that the earth is a square without being censored and punished, but you can't make a joke about an entire nation and think it's okay.
2014-03-13 17:35
You're an idiot. That's exactly how it works. He's legally allowed to say these things, but that does not mean his employers cannot fire him for what he chooses to say in public. Freedom of speech means to say something without censorship or restraint, nobody censored or restrained him from saying these things, but that does not mean there is not consequences for what you say (not legal consequences, obviously). I have the freedom to tell my boss at work that I think hes a smelly shit stain, that doesn't mean he wont fire me, and if he does fire me that does not mean I didn't have freedom of speech.
2014-03-13 20:31
That is exactly what it means
2014-03-13 16:27
So if you call you're black boss at work a nigger, you shouldn't be fired? Because hey, freedom of speech right? Wrong.
2014-03-13 20:36
Because this is clearly the same thing, good argument manipulation champ. Thorin was on an unrated podcast(with zero affiliation to ESL) where he is 100% allowed to speak his mind. He went to far (as he always does) but he was still fully able to say what he wants. If he said that live on the ESL stream that is a different story.
2014-03-13 20:40
It is the same thing. You said freedom of speech has no consequences. also he broadcast this to the public, the same public that will be viewing ESL's tournament, which he was supposed to be representing less than a week later. It's very understandable ESL would make that decision, especially given his track record of being unprofessional at live events (DHW for example).
2014-03-13 20:46
If you work for a X company you work for them at all times
2014-03-16 13:51
wtf, fuck that guy
2014-03-13 15:57
#100
Poland jMS 
You can't call offending a person/country or whatever a freedom of speech. Would that be ok for you if e.g. in the name of "freedom of speech" anybody called your mother a whore? Of course in internet is pretty much bread and butter, so nobody takes it serious, but let's say it would be your colleague/class-mate. Is this still a freedom of speech to you?
2014-03-13 15:59
if i will say all people in denmark are gays??? i have the freedom of speech?:D
2014-03-13 16:01
This is your opinion, you'll look like an idiot, and you'll probably offend people, but you have the right to think so.
2014-03-13 16:07
thats what thorin looks like now :)
2014-03-13 16:09
there's freedom of speech and also freedom of kicking free-speaking-idiots.
2014-03-13 16:10
lol, leave your home.
2014-03-13 16:11
he has freedom of speech, doesn't stop people or organisations not wanting to be associated with his opinions...
2014-03-13 17:24
!
2014-03-14 02:04
Your mom is a MILF . See it exists
2014-03-14 09:52
ahahahahahahaha
2014-03-13 15:54
standard thorin ROFL
2014-03-13 15:55
LOL
2014-03-13 15:55
never liked him actually
2014-03-13 15:55
+1 ;))
2014-03-13 15:56
+1 he can now spout his statistics at home :))
2014-03-13 16:01
agreed
2014-03-13 17:24
+1
2014-03-13 18:25
#624
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
+1
2014-03-14 08:33
LOLXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2014-03-13 15:55
Well, lets get our drinks in the air , cheers!
2014-03-13 15:55
gg
2014-03-13 15:55
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2014-03-13 15:59
read article no xD? "Among other things, Shields labelled Poland "one of the worst countries in Europe" and compared the ESL staging the event in Katowice to the Olympics being held in Africa, esportsheaven reports."
2014-03-13 15:55
amazing amazing need more Thorin pls
2014-03-13 16:01
lol wtf
2014-03-13 15:55
deserved
2014-03-13 15:55
Very good, he deserves the honor to be called a cunt by myself.
2014-03-13 15:55
Anyone got a quote or something from the podcast?
2014-03-13 15:55
#201
2014-03-13 16:14
"Well it’s in Poland and I think the tickets are pretty cheap so I assume it will be sold out.. Because what the fuck else is going on in Poland? And they’ve got that existential hole of being Polish to try and fill with some esports.” “Maybe, it’s like when you have the Olympics somewhere in Africa and they can all pretend they’re part of the developed world for two weeks, and then everyone just leaves and they’re still in the dirt.” “Poland is one of the worst countries in Europe, bro. It’s one of those countries where when they opened up that Schengen Agreement for European countries, where if you’re in the EU you can move freely between countries.. Like, the second they opened that up everyone in Poland was just like “Cool, let’s get the fuck out of Poland” and they just went to the next countries.” “Put it this way, it’s another place also where there’s constantly news stories where at their football games they have straight up racism aimed at all black players, with the whole crowd like chanting stuff or throwing banana peels. That happened like 50 years ago in the developed European countries - that shit happens, like, now in Poland.” “If you hold the event somewhere shitty, then it’s going to seem awesome and loads more people will come.”
2014-03-13 18:00
phie, bye bye :)(
2014-03-13 15:55
LOL if you watch that video of him then tbh... he's just saying whats on everybodies mind. Even the polish people call it a shithole. Wow ESL, way to pull things out of perspective.. Thorin still #1 analyzer.
2014-03-13 15:59
its simply totally unprofessional to say something like this under those certain circumstances... of course esl doesnt want to be associated with that
2014-03-13 16:30
Don't even try to excuse this kind of behaviour. It was uncalled for, unprofessional, condescending and rude. And unlike the trolls on HLTV, he was being paid to go to Poland to cast games. If I said this shit about my clients, I would be chucked out of my firm without a second thought.
2014-03-13 16:57
Wasn't on my mind
2014-03-13 17:47
#38
bodyy | 
France Fuks 
so happy
2014-03-13 15:55
This 12 year old acting like idiot has always been acting like that, so no surprise.... What a child...
2014-03-13 15:55
Great ! He was annoying as fck, never liked him at the first place
2014-03-13 15:55
Wow thorin, just wow
2014-03-13 15:55
#44
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Germany fLakz 
noone can replace thorin.. lol
2014-03-13 15:55
SirScoots can, quite easily, to be honest.
2014-03-13 16:13
lol, no. Thoorin is unmatched when it comes to cs-knowledge and game-analysis.
2014-03-13 16:53
True but, in my opinion, Scoots presents info in better manner.
2014-03-13 17:05
do you even fkin listen to sirscoots? if i didnt know him, and watched him today, i would say this guy never saw cs or played it lmao
2014-03-13 17:22
You replied the wrong person.
2014-03-13 17:24
hahahaah
2014-03-13 15:55
Fail. Can't replace Thorin.
2014-03-13 15:56
The fail is all Thorin's. What an idiot.
2014-03-13 15:58
meh
2014-03-13 15:56
lol, what a prick
2014-03-13 15:56
#50
Germany ayyy 
lol
2014-03-13 15:56
deserved
2014-03-13 15:56
EMS One 2014 Souvenir Package what can u get from those? skins or stickers?
2014-03-13 15:56
dicks
2014-03-13 15:59
dicks :´DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2014-03-13 16:47
That's professionalism for you. Good for ESL. Thorin may be a good guy, but I totally support this.
2014-03-13 15:56
#55
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World fapper 
asshole
2014-03-13 15:56
wow
2014-03-13 15:56
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA DESERVED, but i like your interviews to be honest
2014-03-13 15:56
hahhaha this is awesome
2014-03-13 15:56
#59
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France rsi_rise 
n1, deserved.
2014-03-13 15:56
well played Thorin, well played XD
2014-03-13 15:56
I agree with some extent, even though it might of been in a joke form. <- talking about [POD]cast with carn and lurppis. I haven't listened to Unfiltered show.
2014-03-13 16:01
It clearly wasn't listening to the podcast
2014-03-13 15:57
you mean in [POD]cast? or other podcast
2014-03-13 15:58
thx
2014-03-13 16:02
Doesnt matter if you agree or not, it was stupid you shouldnt say something like that when youre going to that country next day and the whole staff there is polish, any commentator in any sport wouldve been removed if he did this
2014-03-13 15:58
#64
Tunkkis | 
Finland tofiii 
kurwa
2014-03-13 15:56
thorin kurwa
2014-03-13 16:39
Thorin for president ahah
2014-03-13 15:56
Good.
2014-03-13 15:56
#67
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Venezuela xoile 
shameyou thorin
2014-03-13 15:56
hahah thorin's douchiness exceeded all expectations
2014-03-13 15:57
#69
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Norway M0LTEN 
Thank god :D Thorin is a rtard and a prick. Always saying crap about someone or something, embarrassing how a "grown" man can be so childish.
2014-03-13 15:57
+1
2014-03-13 16:02
bl on losing the worst caster out there
2014-03-13 15:57
Release him! FreedOM OF SPEECH! COULD BE TRUTH LOL
2014-03-13 15:57
#72
Xizt | 
Bulgaria HellRose 
hahahhaha
2014-03-13 15:57
ahhaha
2014-03-13 15:57
Good riddance... never really cared for him. His analysis was weak at best and often included things completely unrelated to player's game sense/ability
2014-03-13 15:57
weak...are you retarded
2014-03-13 16:10
His analysis were really good actually. He just should think about what he is saying and where.
2014-03-13 17:38
#75
Finland x4^ 
Thank god! Never liked him.
2014-03-13 15:57
such a tool
2014-03-13 15:57
Lol
2014-03-13 15:57
ROFL
2014-03-13 15:57
Ignorant deepshit making ignorant comments. Good ridance.
2014-03-13 15:57
absolute asshat, glad he's gone
2014-03-13 15:58
Truth hurts....
2014-03-13 15:58
Said a guy from Kyrgystan.
2014-03-13 16:03
u are extremely stupid if u really think im from Kyrgyzstan. and yeah its Kyrgyzstan not Kyrgystan , cheers...
2014-03-13 16:07
Truth? Do you happen to have downs syndrome mate?Go and educate yourself you ignorant cunt.
2014-03-13 16:10
Why u heff to be mad? Poland sucks and its totally irrelevant country like Thorin said cheers.
2014-03-13 16:12
Some arguments you got there. There's clearly a reason why you don't have your real flag set in your profile but judging by your name you're some butthurt slovenian or some other fuck from the balkans which would make sense. You've clearly not ever been to Poland but once again, you're just some little scumbag from some shitty ass country.
2014-03-13 16:16
Im glad you are following my profile , im honored still poland - irrelevant , unimportant , insignificant, inconsequential, trivial, minor, slight, trifling ....
2014-03-13 16:18
Adorable. Poland is by far the most "significant" slavic country, not counting Russia. You're a slav yourself. Clearly butthurt.
2014-03-13 16:27
singificent in what? u suck in everything and + u guys are poor i would understand if he said something like this for some developed countries but i dont understand you poles...
2014-03-13 16:37
LOL
2014-03-13 15:58
What an absolute douche, never liked him anyway. Good move by the ESL to fire him.
2014-03-13 15:58
I'm not surprised. I hate his arrogance. Good choice.
2014-03-13 15:58
l00l
2014-03-13 15:58
Well, he say shit like this all the time. He's indeed a douche, but it's a loss.
2014-03-13 15:58
good, Anders come back pls!!
2014-03-13 15:58
FINALLY... No one wants to listen to that ignorant idiot.
2014-03-13 15:58
#99
United States Gowy 
cs polotics awesome.. Poland got butt hurt after some comments LOOOOOOLLL
2014-03-13 15:58
For being from a developed country and a native English speaker you're pretty bad understanding what you're reading. (That is if you managed to actually read past the headlines.) Oh, and it's: butthurt*
2014-03-13 16:21
Kek
2014-03-13 15:59
#102
ARTeMis | 
Australia zebO 
Let's be fair, bloke's just being honest. Since when do you get fired for telling the truth?
2014-03-13 15:59
Good move, that was a very disrespectful thing to say and I honestly dont understand why he felt the need to say those things, which were not only false stereotypes but also offended the entire group of people he is gonna work with in Poland..
2014-03-13 15:59
I liked him for his honest opinions but this is just dumb, casters and analysts can be replaced easily if required. Just cause your a good and recommended caster/analyst doesn't mean you can do whatever the hell you want to. Thorin got the BANHAMMER from Redeye a fellow brit, probably just down the pub drowning his sins :P
2014-03-13 15:59
What's the problem? I agree with him
2014-03-13 15:59
poor witch-hunt, thorin is too good for this shit community.
2014-03-13 16:00
#110
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Poland sajade 
By this time I liked him
2014-03-13 16:00
#111
Russia wfz 
Thorin telling truth
2014-03-13 16:02
ANd idiot only wanted to be funny ... ouch
2014-03-13 16:00
#114
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Poland mki` 
Wow, I was beginning to like Thorin but his rant was amazingly ignorant... never knew he was such an expert... Somehow after 18 years spent in the United States, Poland didn't really hit me as an underdeveloped country.
2014-03-13 16:00
what an idiot, deserved
2014-03-13 16:00
He was always arrogant prick and cunt. Good to see him fired
2014-03-13 16:00
Most annoying caster ever. Thank god hes gone!
2014-03-13 16:00
BRITAIN HELL YEAH
2014-03-13 16:00
#123
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Germany fulltilt 
deserved
2014-03-13 16:00
actually he's right #supportthorin
2014-03-13 16:00
go defend crimea instead of writing shit
2014-03-13 19:25
Thorin the virgin gets denied from the only thing he had going in his life hahaha
2014-03-13 16:01
Better for the event. I knew something is wrong with this guy. Now it's clear - he's a poor little asshole.
2014-03-13 16:01
never laughed as i just do for this game!
2014-03-13 16:01
thats very disrespectful thorin. bad caster, bad caster! go to you room!
2014-03-13 16:01
great move redeye! you are the man there.. rule em all
2014-03-13 16:01
#135
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Norway billson 
EMS lost on this one. Thorin is best @ what he does.
2014-03-13 16:01
#137
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Malta WATSKy 
- thorin + anders
2014-03-13 16:01
''and compared the ESL staging the event in Katowice to the Olympics being held in Africa'' funniest thing i heard in a while :D
2014-03-13 16:01
Great, hes a ignorant piece of crap anyway. I hope ReDeYe is going to cast, i consider him as one of the most enjoyable casters out there :)
2014-03-13 16:01
He thinks he's gods gift. I don't get it he's not that great, he just rambles on about random shit. Poland is an amazing country with great history.
2014-03-13 16:01
YES! This event just got 1000x better! No more of that LONG DREARY never ending questions and comments.
2014-03-13 16:01
wtf is wrong with this guy?
2014-03-13 16:02
OMG
2014-03-13 16:02
#146
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Ukraine AnatolijNook 
awesome
2014-03-13 16:02
lol finally that prick is gone
2014-03-13 16:02
thorin best!
2014-03-13 16:02
LOL THAT WAS A PAINFUL TRUTH SAID. THORIN FOR PRESIDENT
2014-03-13 16:02
Good for you that Thorin don't know there is a country which is called Lithuania :D
2014-03-13 16:05
Lithuania is invisible. People cannot find us on a map. Just like the Malaysian Air Plane that dissapeared.
2014-03-13 16:06
much lol when it strongly could be applied to our own country ye ye ye lol lmfao
2014-03-13 16:05
so what? he just pointed out thorin said the truth in his opinion, what does that have to do with his own country?
2014-03-13 16:15
so what what ? I have already answered
2014-03-13 16:41
i can truly say - if poland is a shit, wchich thorin said it is then Lithuania.... what is Lithuania?
2014-03-13 19:28
mongol talking about bad roads @ ~8,45 bet he hasnt seen them in recent days highway from Warsaw towards Germany is awesome
2014-03-13 16:03
:D he said a little true :D
2014-03-13 16:03
If 'esports' want to be taken seriously, then it needs to mature to a point in which people like Thorin aren't considered industry professionals. A sport that uses a douchey, bigoted man-child as one of its top broadcast personalities isn't a sport worth respecting.
2014-03-13 16:04
Thorin gave strong points and opinions which is why I like him. He's direct and straight to the point. The idiots always hate the intellectual.
2014-03-13 16:03
Right, gross generalization and bigotry = intellectual. Go back to school, kid.
2014-03-13 16:05
you really have no idea, have fun on your bandwagon.
2014-03-13 16:42
Well stereotypes are for totally dumb cunts, these are mental shortcuts and these are used by people which don't know how to use brain or think (read total idiots)
2014-03-13 16:16
Please listen to what Thorin actually said.
2014-03-13 16:45
#389
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Poland venomstw 
He has no clue about Poland man. Have you ever been to Poland ? I was laughing about driving 200 miles 8 hours ? His friend told him that. That explains everything - his friend. And my friend told that in the USA people eat only burgers... He has never been here and talk about us. Sick.
2014-03-13 17:42
explaining a friends experience and being told about Americans only eating burgers are two completely different things. You are actually referring to the people eating where Thorin made no reference about the polish people. He made a reference about football but you can't argue that not being true.
2014-03-13 19:33
Funny thing is that Polish people describe their country as corrupted and fucked up but when somebody else says the same, it's not right.
2014-03-13 16:03
#170
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Bulgaria jar_ 
He's not saying the same and the whole world is corrupt
2014-03-13 16:05
Poland's problems are no different from the problems in just about every east European country. And Thorin has the moronic gall to single out and hate on one nationality out of the bunch that he's just been hired to go work with for an event. /facepalm
2014-03-13 16:09
That's not true if you actually listened to the whole thing, youtube.com/watch?v=R4wVBu7n6aw&feature=.. You see after that he also talks about ukraine and other eastern country, he never singled out poland. On the other hand, talking about it when you are hired to go there and work, is indeed not very smart.
2014-03-13 16:16
#395
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Poland venomstw 
Poland in 20 years made a such big growth. Before 1989 we had been nothing. Since then we've just built something what normally takes ten or more years longer dude :)
2014-03-13 17:44
why are you telling me this ?
2014-03-13 17:47
#405
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Poland venomstw 
Because I want to explain you that Thorin has no fucking clue about what's going on in Poland. The thing the most make me laugh was driving 200 miles in 8 hours. His friend told him that. He based on information that someone gives him. He has never been to Poland and talk shit about us. It's not fair.
2014-03-13 17:52
well, I think you got information like 10 years old.
2014-03-13 16:15
?
2014-03-13 16:17
Poland changed a lot, we did complain a lot but now it's just like in any other coutry. We got our problems but I guess every other got it too
2014-03-13 16:30
We don't disagree but comparing Poland to african country? srsly?? There are worse countries in europe
2014-03-13 16:15
You don't take this as racism and xenophobia, do you ?Because apart from this exaggeration, what he said is pretty accurate. #240
2014-03-13 16:18
He shouldn't say that, CS:GO is not about how is some country rich or poor, this is about the game for fuck sake..
2014-03-13 16:21
so what your saying is if he said any other country other than africa you wouldn't be so butt hurt.
2014-03-13 16:55
Fact you were offended about being compared to an African country is considered xenophobic towards the African countries though isn't it? It works both ways, even if you didn't think so.
2014-03-13 17:15
"Schengen Agreement for European countries, where if you’re in the EU you can move freely between countries.. Like, the second they opened that up everyone in Poland was just like “Cool, let’s get the fuck out of Poland”" :D:D lmao
2014-03-13 16:03
maybe this will teach him a lesson
2014-03-13 16:03
this is what happend when you always TRY to be funny ;) bb clown
2014-03-13 16:04
Couldn't be happier right now. God, I hate that guy.
2014-03-13 16:04
#162
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Brazil shadowkhan 
Where is Joe Miller?
2014-03-13 16:04
Casting LoL
2014-03-13 16:04
#163
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
hahah what a twat. Good anyway, he talks out his arse
2014-03-13 16:04
Good step, ESL. Hopefully we dont have to see him anymore.
2014-03-13 16:04
I still think ESL lost a lot...
2014-03-13 16:06
+1
2014-03-13 16:06
what a stupid fucking cunt
2014-03-13 16:06
Great, will be better without that tool.
2014-03-13 16:06
What the actual fuck? I smell carmac butthurt. Thorin didn't say anything about the country itself, nor the people. He was talking about the state of economy and civilization. And those were based on reports of a polish person he talked to and his visiting poland. The only time where he did mention something about polish people was how their football enthusiasts are racist. So, he actually called them out for being racist, and he gets fired for being racist or xenophobic? Get real. This tournament just lost a lot of value.
2014-03-13 16:07
Saying that people are leaving because the country is so bad, and that people see it as 2 weeks of "becoming a developed country". Quite sure that's speaking about the country itself, and poking fun of immigration would mean he's talking about citizens so. I am not on either side, there's just flaw to what you are claiming wasn't said.
2014-03-13 17:18
When he talks about polish people leaving Poland, I just don't see anything insultive about that. Especially considering it's 1. true and 2. most of what he said was at least in a joking mood. I didn't listen to the Africa quote, but from the way it reads, it seems to me more like a poke at the developed countries - "and then everyone just leaves and they’re still in the dirt". I'm not saying there's no offense to be taken from his remarks, and I'm aware that it was probably not the smartest thing to say publically one day away from working among poles in Poland, I just find it shocking how a minute of speaking your mind on a random show, however exaggerated his opinions may be, can get you fired for reasons that are arguably equally as exaggerated.
2014-03-13 17:36
The exact quote can be found here: esportsheaven.com/news/64245/thorin-from..
2014-03-13 18:36
I really enjoy what Thorin does as an expert/analyst, and I think he's pretty damn funny too. But he really need to think about what he's saying, sometimes it gets a bit too honest and dark for professional environments.
2014-03-13 16:09
#181
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
well you fucked it up thorin, but tournament lost quite a lot in entertainment value, current analysis panel is miserable
2014-03-13 16:07
as if thorin is entertaining, he's just a miserable dwarf, but it would be nice if Joe would be casting again
2014-03-13 16:14
No suprise there. Thorin says what he wants and don't give a shit but sometimes it's better to hold it in even tho everyone have a free will say to say what ever they want except if you live in North Korea.
2014-03-13 16:08
he said that poland is bad but still better then ukraine or romania. omg omg im so offended. arrest all those guys in the video. haha
2014-03-13 16:08
#186
United Kingdom m0o 
Thorin is the biggest arrogant bellend on the scene. He's embarrassing to UK people so this is a long time coming and good riddance. Much better without Thorin. His technical knowledge was greatly overshadowed by his rudeness, arrogance and smugness.
2014-03-13 16:08
Thorin is such a trollboss :D
2014-03-13 16:08
A trollboss that isn't getting paid now, and will probably lose other opportunities in the future.
2014-03-13 16:11
So?You come off really butthurt,must be from sauce or something.Nobody cares.Move on.
2014-03-13 16:12
#344
United Kingdom m0o 
oh boo hoo - shouldn't be a twat be offensive as a caster/analyst then needs to do a job where he's not client or public facing then
2014-03-13 17:14
After party in Poland... liveleak.com/view?i=f78_1394468673
2014-03-13 16:08
ginger mad
2014-03-13 16:09
yes! now i dont have to stop watching the stream between games
2014-03-13 16:09
Great move. He's so unprofessional.
2014-03-13 16:09
what a fucking idiot, was doing a good job and literally killed off any career hopes to make some shit childish, racist jokes.
2014-03-13 16:09
they knew who they were hiring, so if they dont like the stuff he says dont hire him. ESL fucked it up
2014-03-13 16:10
pfff any Thorin xaxaxaxa ... +1 for ESL
2014-03-13 16:11
Good decision. I've only been following the CS scene for like a year and every time I come across this Thorin guy I get annoyed. He constantly talks shit, his attitude and everything about him is EXTREMELY ARROGANT. The arrogance in his voice disgusts me. Sure, he probably knows a lot about the game, but that doesn't mean you can go and be a total arrogant twat to whoever you want. Especially not as a caster/analyst/whatever he is/was. Sure Poland isn't the greatest of countries, but show a bit of respect to the people you are going to be working with on an event in that country! Saying stuff like this on a live show is just extremely ignorant and downright dumb. Hope to never see this guy on any show or cast ever again, his arrogance really annoys me and probably a lot of people. What a twat.
2014-03-13 16:11
Finally some brains in this thread. +1
2014-03-13 17:01
+1. got the same feelings about him.
2014-03-13 18:05
#209
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Taiwan SCVready 
NO!!! Give my Throooooin back!!!
2014-03-13 16:11
Thorin wrecked. If you watch the video, it's just his childish/womanly need to be "right" all the damn time that made him say what he said. His opening statements weren't that bad, but the other guys disagreed, and he just had to say more and more racist shit just to try and prove his point. I respect his knowledge of CS and enjoyed his analyst position immensely at DHW, but this ban is completely deserved. Anyone who disagrees has no idea what "professionalism" means.
2014-03-13 16:13
Thorin best!
2014-03-13 16:13
#215
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Slovakia crushyou 
thank god this fucking twat isn't casting!
2014-03-13 16:13
No worries redey and co. this move just made the event better, the community prettymuch hates the arrogant dick anyways..
2014-03-13 16:14
gj :D
2014-03-13 16:14
Funny thing is that Thoorin of course is right. Poland is a shithole and severly underdeveloped compared to the western side of Europe. I can understand that this comment would offend people, but it's still true. ESL wan't to be politically correct and also shut their eyes towards the truth, whatever. I understand the point of view that they doesn't wanna stand behind something that offends their crowd, absolutly. But to call this racist is fucking stupid, since it's not.
2014-03-13 16:14
Sweden is so modern but thats a good thing. I think... heahea.org/img/823-Sweden_then_sweden_no..
2014-03-13 16:32
Douchebags and retards like that will be found in every country, not really unique for Sweden. Im not saying that poles are shitheads or idiots. What I was trying to say was that it's true that poland are in bad economical, social and political condition. Does this make Poland a relative shithole? Well if you wanna use really bad words(like Thoorin), sure. But it still doesn't make him racist or xenophobic. It just makes him arrogant and dumb.
2014-03-13 16:54
If you wanted me to point out what was the most offending thing he said, was that "existential hole of being Polish". I already called it if I meet him@London he can suck my cock, to fill that British hole of his.
2014-03-13 17:09
Actually I didn't catch that. It's hard to hear exatly what he says sometimes due to his accent.
2014-03-13 17:23
see ?You're doing the same thing as thorin.
2014-03-13 17:56
hahahahahahaha
2014-03-13 18:40
#281
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
It's just retarded, Poland may be in a wrong shape nowadays, but it has suffered so much before (WWII, three partitions, etc.) and also helped others a lot. Doesn't deserve to be called like that, even though as country, nowadays, is not any good.
2014-03-13 16:32
well said sir
2014-03-13 16:58
Half of people here nothing know about history of Poland...
2014-03-13 18:02
said guy from gay or muslim country lol
2014-03-13 16:52
No shit it's underdeveloped after being betrayed by France and Great Britain in '39, having 1/6 of it's population killed by Germans (most), Russians and Ukrainians (ethnic cleansing) during the war and being sold to Stalin by the Americans in '45 to be exploited by the Soviets for the next 50 years.
2014-03-13 17:41
Can't you read? I never said it was the poles fault or anything. All I said was that it's a fact.
2014-03-13 17:43
Did you even listen to what he said?
2014-03-13 17:51
Hmm, I'm confused here. I thought your post was a reply to me? But maybe it wasn't? I did watch the clip with Thoorin and it was just alot of shittalk coming from him. Bashing on poland as a country and poles as people. If your comment was aimed towards Thoorin then just ignore what I wrote.
2014-03-13 18:11
"All I said was that it's a fact." What is a fact? The "existential hole"? Or maybe that every Pole with enough brains left the country? Guess what, there are more (percentage-wise) British people living abroad than there are Polish people (I'm talking about people born in the country that have left to live abroad) - actually, Great Britain is the leader in EU when to comes to emigrants. Or maybe the "racism", probably based on BBC's 'documentary' that has been proven to be a forgery?
2014-03-13 18:33
"poland are in bad economical, social and political condition". This is a fact.
2014-03-13 18:40
No, it's not. Poland was the only European country showing growth during the years of recent economic crisis. GDP (PPP) per capita is only half of that of Germany, which is not bad at all. Polish public health care, no matter what the malcontents say, is one of the best in EU. Polish citizens are not prescribed Paracetamol for every illness the way it is done in the UK. Polish public education is second only to Finland's. As for politics, unless we get rid of democracy, nothing can be changed.
2014-03-13 19:52
Poland has an unemployment rate of 14% which is really high. 2012 Poland was the third poorest country in EU only topped by Bulgaria and Romania in terms of GDP. About your educational system I must wonder in what way that was measured? In the end I can't believe that the general polish citizen is better educated than for example the general swedish citizen. You might have a decent healthcare system, in terms of what goes in and what comes out. 7% of your GDP goes into healthcare, compared to Swedens 9%. What difference this makes in the end I don't really know from the top of my head. I also haven't experienced Polish healthcare so I can't make a general judgement myself. But focusing on the two points that I made in the top. With such poor rates it's inevitable that problems will arise. It just always does when there is alot of poverty. As for the politics, I guess you are right.
2014-03-13 20:38
Care to provide your sources? Because they simply don't agree with Wikipedia. Also, I don't think you understand what GDP means, let alone GDP (PPP). You're confusing it with GDP per capita. Here's GDP (PPP) per capita: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_c.. Above Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia and Hungary. I was talking about GDP (PPP): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_c.. Poland is 6th in EU, behind Germany, the UK, France, Italy and Spain. If you think that this is an unimportant statistic, consider China's position as a superpower (second GDP (PPP) in the world) and then look at their GDP (PPP) per capita: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_.. Unemployment is at ~10%: countryeconomy.com/unemployment/poland Comparable to France, Italy, Hungary, etc. You should really check your 'facts' before you post them. PISA?
2014-03-13 21:15
Unemployment source: tradingeconomics.com/poland/unemployment.. Yes I confused it with GDP per capita, thanks for pointing that out! Also, I guess that my source for GDP per capita for EU members was wrong, since Hungary and Latvia seems to be below Poland, trusting wikipedia(which in this case I guess is alright). Doesn't really matter tho, since the point was that Poland are in bad economical shape. You have about half the GDP per capita of Sweden and about half the avarage wage of Sweden. China being a superpower in economy is sadly a paradox in comparison to how the people in China are doing. Every rich country in the world uses it for outsourcing. Make the rich richer and the poor poorer. Also their political system is corrupt and we all know how the working class in communist countries are doing moneywise. Poland might be on the rise, but there are still a long way to go. My point is not to bash on Poland and tell people how fucking useless Poland is. I'm just trying to support my stance that Poland overall is a poor country and has pretty bad conditions compared to most other countries in EU.
2014-03-13 21:50
"British people living abroad than there are Polish people" I would like to see the evidence for this.
2014-03-14 12:09
deserved
2014-03-13 16:15
this thorin... xD
2014-03-13 16:15
I rather listen to Thorin then this girl talking all the time.. Omg this girl never stop talking.........................
2014-03-13 16:16
lol brainless tard...
2014-03-13 16:16
Everything he said may be true, but is not professional to tell it to the world just the day before you're going to Poland. It's just stupid to do it, plus you know you may be fired for it, and he knew it. So it's maybe intentioned or something weird's happening there with him and his thoughts.
2014-03-13 16:16
#431
Poland MJP 
its not true. what is wrong with you. Worse country , you shuld beahave
2014-03-13 18:12
"such ignorance" idd
2014-03-13 16:16
gg.
2014-03-13 16:16
#241
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
good, he is bad as caster
2014-03-13 16:17
bitch got what it deserved.
2014-03-13 16:17
good riddance, I hate thorin bring in lurrpis
2014-03-13 16:17
great event. no good analysts left. ps add lurrpis
2014-03-13 16:18
#249
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Hungary lemusz 
fck u thorin, you are the worst caster in europe...
2014-03-13 16:19
esl sucks, thorin rocks
2014-03-13 16:19
#252
Romania PD1 
Yes. He f*** up, now we have to listed to pansyyyyyyyy :(.
2014-03-13 16:20
#254
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United Kingdom smoggy:. 
for someone who writes for a living you would think he'd think more before he speaks. guess you live and learn.
2014-03-13 16:21
lol pls educate urself
2014-03-13 16:27
#270
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United Kingdom smoggy:. 
yum yum your tears are nice
2014-03-13 16:32
typical uk fatty :D
2014-03-13 16:34
... Ignorant
2014-03-13 16:35
You're not allowed to speak truth.
2014-03-13 16:23
#286
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Or you're not allowed to talk shit like that while being, apparently, a professional caster. Some things he said may be true, but a country which suffered so much before and helped others so much doesn't deserve to be called like that. He can eat a shit.
2014-03-13 16:34
You've a point.
2014-03-13 17:11
Fuck that guy
2014-03-13 16:23
#260
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Denmark Sander 
Thank god he is gone!
2014-03-13 16:24
What a twat.
2014-03-13 16:24
Very good move by Thorin. He is saying things that he doesn't know shit about.
2014-03-13 16:24
Good job. Xenophobic douche who thinks hes tough and funny. He's maybe good for pub jokes but not for professional casting. Im glad he's gone.
2014-03-13 16:24
he is ugly ginger virgin
2014-03-13 16:25
He's such an idiot
2014-03-13 16:26
#fuckthorin
2014-03-13 16:29
#272
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
goodbye thorin ginger faggot
2014-03-13 16:29
Thank God, he's always been a dick.
2014-03-13 16:29
he just ruined his whole cybersport career...... idiot
2014-03-13 16:31
i can only laugh at this even though its incredibly unprofessional, lmao thorin:D
2014-03-13 16:34
Thank you for this!
2014-03-13 16:34
#287
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
lol :/
2014-03-13 16:34
he's an absolute tool. a stupid persons idea of a clever person.
2014-03-13 16:35
#290
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Guess Thorin forgot which country saved british arses in 1940.
2014-03-13 16:36
hahah hero
2014-03-13 16:40
he did insult Poland as country with bad roads etc, i would TRY to understand that but... later he made all the poles look like people who 'throw bananas at black people' and stupid idiots who are either running away abroad from Poland and the rest is too stupid to do that. well he is kind of guy who thinks he is napoleon_bonaparte/MrIKnowEverything on every party when he gets drunk, first guy to get punched due to tardness etc;d
2014-03-13 16:41
he wasn't wrong though? he was referring to polish football and the racism in which he was 100% correct! You're insulted because the truth hurts not because what he said was a lie.
2014-03-14 12:15
I used to thing Proland stronk ..
2014-03-13 16:43
Nice1 Thooorin. :D
2014-03-13 16:43
amount of bullshiet that he said goes over top.
2014-03-13 16:43
So he sided with blacks over whites and got fired for "racism". Yes Thorin, I told you long ago that political correctness doesn't pay.
2014-03-13 16:46
I hate him anyway. good job
2014-03-13 16:47
i mean really, all eastern european countries blow dunno why they would even have EMS in poland LOL
2014-03-13 16:48
#315
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
For you to ask stupid questions and prove that you're retarded
2014-03-13 16:51
holl@ at me when your neo nazi populous stops rising and the attacks on the general public for no reason halt^.^
2014-03-13 17:54
thorin is best i.imgur.com/YQSYy.gif
2014-03-13 16:59
#314
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
or you're just a stupid fuck, how is he the best?
2014-03-13 16:50
whats stupid? he stated some sad facts and he was punshed. of course it was his mistake to trash talk about poland before going there to work, but his analysis is best in the world, no one can fully change him
2014-03-13 18:16
GJ ReDeYe #fuckthorin btw. i bet was never in Poland :D
2014-03-13 16:48
I wish i was in Katowice so i could punch him :(
2014-03-13 16:51
He's always been a tool, but after seeing him wear this CCCP thing I didn't think he'd stoop any lower. Guess I was wrong.
2014-03-13 16:52
I`am glad, i never wanted to listen to his analytic bullshit anyways.
2014-03-13 16:58
#432
Poland MJP 
haha :) well true
2014-03-13 18:13
i dont want to defend him but its obvious that a certain part of brits have a problem with all that labour farce comming from different countries. And its understandable to some extend. But if you read here the polish comments i think it couldnt be anymore worse than what he said I didnt heard is his statements yet in the unfiltered show. I guess i have to hear/watch it.
2014-03-13 17:10
#350
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
that's why i guess you're just stupid to comment about something you've never seen.
2014-03-13 17:20
seen? i think i have to hear it first :D So tell me since you obviously have heard his statements. What has he been saying so badly?
2014-03-13 17:26
Have watched it now. Well he just talked a bit shit about polish football fans in general. So it wasnt that harmful to be honest
2014-03-13 17:39
#558
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Watch it again, carefully this time.
2014-03-13 21:24
something tells me you didnt even heard it
2014-03-13 22:05
Come on. Don't overreact. It's pretty obvious that he had no intention to talk bad/shit about the people living in Poland, he was just saying that he thinks Poland's condition (in terms of infrastructure and stuff) is bad (though still better than other Eastern countries like Ukraine). I wouldn't even say he was "talking shit", since many of the things he said are actually true. Pretty sure he has no negative feelings towards the people of Poland. When the Football World-Cup was in South-Africa everyone was talking about how poor and underdeveloped this country is. Same goes for Brazil now. For some reason this was okay...
2014-03-13 17:05
wrong, you cannot allow people to get away with such comments, he was disrespectful and ignorant.
2014-03-13 17:27
yeap, its cause he said it about a predominately white country is why hes being ousted.
2014-03-13 17:54
+1 he got what he deserved
2014-03-13 17:04
Deserved. But what he said is truth tho, the whole country excluding Warszawa is a shithole...
2014-03-13 17:07
#338
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Poland Marcines 
nice idiot :D "Deserved. But what he said is truth tho, the whole country excluding Warszawa is a shithole..." actually Warsaw sux :)
2014-03-13 17:08
Actually, in terms of being developed it is probably the best place in Poland. You don't fear shit there, and certain things "not allowed" in other cities are "allowed" there.
2014-03-13 17:11
Basically this.
2014-03-13 20:35
its funny how anders isnt a official commentator for this event and yet he has far more viewers than eslt_tv channel
2014-03-13 17:11
well, Poland is maybe not that nice as you all except, there here ppl are very nice and peaceful. @thorin, come to Bialystok. we have to talk about your bullshit posts:)
2014-03-13 17:12
Sadly,alot of what he has said is true. Bad roads,hulligans,racism in poland is huge aswell. But that coming from a person that is watched by alot of viewers all around world and it that kind of a way where it sounds like all poland people are racist or living in caves is really really bad thing. I had an expression that whole poland is like raging monkeys living in the forest trying to rob and rape everyone who visits their country. I have been to Poland myself several times,and all I have is great experience. With both their culture and people being nice,hostile and polite. So yeah I think removing him from the casting crew is a good thing,not like this is his first time trash talking so bad anyway. Best regards to polish people.
2014-03-13 17:17
At least we don't have to watch his flipper hands in interviews anymore.
2014-03-13 17:17
hes a stupid cunt. i hate that virgin
2014-03-13 17:18
#362
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
pretty much looks like a ginger faggot, hopefully i won't see his face anymore.
2014-03-13 17:25
Great
2014-03-13 17:20
he's fucking idiot, why I'm not suprised that he comes from UK?
2014-03-13 17:21
dont go as low as he did please :)
2014-03-13 17:22
I'll try but he pissed me off..
2014-03-13 17:26
Totally unjustified. Thorin was the main attraction in the casting lineup
2014-03-13 17:23
#367
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
How come unjustified? why is every person from Lithuania retarded, posting such stupid comments?
2014-03-13 17:26
What does it matter if he said something inappropriate as a joke on some podcast nobody even watched? The podcast is even called 'unfiltered'... They use 'fuck' as a filler word. What does it matter if he said that some Polish guy told him that roads are bad in Poland or that there's simply a huge existential hole in being Polish. Everyone knows that Poland is a shit country, not as shitty as Lithuania but still kinda shit.
2014-03-13 17:33
#556
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Roads are bad? do you even lift bro? can't understand their english for shit? Lithuania is actually a more shitty country, pretty small with grounds stolen from Poland, also without any significant army, so i'd rather stay silent about that.
2014-03-13 21:22
Yes, Lithuania is the shittiest country in the world. >Roads are bad? Well that's what Thorin said and they kicked him out of EMS. And yes I do lift.
2014-03-13 21:27
Damn, no interesting person in the cast now. Miss lurrpis and Thorin
2014-03-13 17:23
#376
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
How is a ginger without brain any interesting.
2014-03-13 17:32
He's got a mad sense of humour though. He makes it entertaining to watch.
2014-03-13 17:36
rofl you're ignorant. yes, his comments were unnecessary and unacceptable. but you can't deny that he is one of the most knowledgeable CS analysts of all time. lots of people hate his personality, but he is an expert when it comes to understanding the tactical side of the game.
2014-03-13 17:41
#557
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
RIP his super career then.
2014-03-13 21:23
There are plenty of individuals out there who would make great replacement casters who can provide the same level of analytically strong cast.
2014-03-14 03:17
He is a cunt, yes, but everything he said about Poland is pretty much true.
2014-03-13 17:24
#364
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Everything? Have you heard what he have said? so you're just a stupid cunt, unnecessarily insulting polish people.
2014-03-13 17:25
lol you mad greece?
2014-03-13 19:01
you can find racist and ppl like this everywhere you will go.
2014-03-13 17:27
and thats exactly why you as a pole shouldnt be that butthurt
2014-03-13 17:40
i see what you know about poland, tell me more pls
2014-03-13 19:32
my bad, vietnam is worse
2014-03-13 20:06
im from poland actually, and still waiting for your new stories from poland...
2014-03-13 20:37
ah so thats why you are so butthurt
2014-03-13 21:10
You are doing great making yourself look like a smallminded teenager. Keep it up.
2014-03-14 02:44
do ya thang mayne fuk wat dey lookin at
2014-03-14 03:00
no no no, just wanted to know more about my country form person who never been there and knows literally shit about it ;) ps. mi not even mad
2014-03-14 13:17
it's a shithole, alright
2014-03-14 15:10
3/10 cause i write back to you, bye
2014-03-14 21:46
why are you rating my reply
2014-03-14 22:25
2014-03-13 17:25
The amount of butthurt Poles in this topic is too damn high.
2014-03-13 17:27
#375
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Pretty much obvious if you'd think for a moment about the context.
2014-03-13 17:31
Thanks captain.
2014-03-13 17:42
#457
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
It was so obvious that your post wasn't necessary at all, yet you did need a "captain".
2014-03-13 18:29
Please don't waste your time here and go back to playing the advocate for the developing and broke as fuck countries as you do in this whole topic.
2014-03-13 18:31
#555
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Please use some sensible arguments supporting your words or just shut the fuck up.
2014-03-13 21:20
What are you talking about, son? We don't even have a common topic here, hence nothing to argue about. Or perhaps you are feeling needy and need someone to talk to at least on the internet? Awww, not me, bye.
2014-03-13 21:37
yeah its a lot worse if you read through this thread. it literally looks like thoorin was right on with his statements
2014-03-13 17:40
Between you and me, I think he was right.
2014-03-13 17:43
You try to pretend but you aren't too damn smart, are you? I suppose that you haven't even been in Poland, but in almost every thread you try to post something to cause us 'butthurt'. Pathetic instigator.
2014-03-14 09:49
As you just proved, it is really easy to upset you guys. As a matter of fact, Thorin said that Ukraine is even worse than Poland, but I don't see one Ukrainian crying about it and making butthurt topics. It is always you guys.. Coming to every news/history related topic and victimizes yourself like you had the worst fate in universe. That's pathetic.
2014-03-14 10:58
If you look closely to this thread's posts you will see that ~50% users here are not from Poland and still do not approve such a behaviour. It's just natural way of think, not only ours.
2014-03-14 11:03
That doesn't really have much connection with my previous comment. But for the record, I don't approve such behaviour as he is somewhat of a public figure at least in e-sports, but I kind of agree with him anyway.
2014-03-14 12:24
thankyou ESL, no one liked this idiot. no one has the right to say shit like that about any country, Thorin isn't qualified in any field to make such comments
2014-03-13 17:27
Will be missed seriously these ems casters are shit ..the 1.6 crew is waiting for ya..screw this game ^_^
2014-03-13 17:31
im not that patriotic and sensitive etc blabla, but i feel really insulted, what a dick words from him :/ specially by comparing to the african economic level
2014-03-13 17:32
good, thorin was a tremendous douche anyways
2014-03-13 17:38
thorin best
2014-03-13 17:49
Deserved to be sacked, but what he said was hilarious.
2014-03-13 17:49
#402
CHEDEL | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
u med thorin ?
2014-03-13 17:50
Hahaha, typical Scot! Its true though. If there was a top3 worse countries in EU, Poland would defo be up there.
2014-03-13 17:50
Please... everyone knows that he's douche but he's really good caster and content producer and i think ESL if they really wanna punish him they should've do it in other way.
2014-03-13 17:52
Sending to Poland :OOOO We are waiting for Thorin
2014-03-13 17:57
Sending someone to Polan would be a punishment, now wouldnt it.
2014-03-14 09:30
#417
Poland MJP 
Thorin BANNED. Non of the racist post shuld be aloud. ESL done right thinks. Hope he will never be back. Thats to big offence.
2014-03-13 18:05
I agree. Totally unprofessional of him.
2014-03-13 18:17
I will never again watch Podcast of carn if he will have Thorin there.
2014-03-13 18:07
horrible by ESL, what he said wasn't racist.
2014-03-13 18:08
#426
Poland MJP 
please stop. We are not the worse country in the world. Ask NiPplayers or fnatic they lovet. He is UK racist noob. You never been in Poland . No comment then
2014-03-13 18:11
I've been to Poland several times and no, it's not the shittiest country in the world. He said it's "one of the worst countries in Europe" and he's right. It's an opinion about a country as a whole, not racist.
2014-03-13 18:15
#448
Poland MJP 
dont bealive you. Its this same like any othere country . What are you talking about . he is froms cotland thats bad man . I live in UK last 8 years. Scotland have nothind .You wasin poland several times hahaha. How old are you , and why you are travel to the worse country in europe. PLease mate.
2014-03-13 18:25
wheter you believe me or not is irrelevant. and no, it's not the same as any other country. saying that makes me doubt you've been outside of poland. anyway, my opinion, respect it. bb
2014-03-13 18:28
ok every man from sweden looks like blonde girl, ur full of muslims and soon u wont exist anyway, my opinion, respect it. bb
2014-03-13 18:51
:D so mad.
2014-03-13 18:53
#668
Poland MJP 
ok no worrys
2014-03-14 12:05
So you went bye bye and got out of Poland like thorin said? i wonder why considering your country is so great.
2014-03-14 12:20
He's from Newcastle, which is in England :p
2014-03-14 12:49
#451
Poland MJP 
People are leaving the country to find better conditions for life somewhere else. The country is poor and corrupted. But if you put these things aside, it's also a beautiful land with nice culture, nature, people, places to visit etc.
2014-03-13 18:27
#713
Poland MJP 
realy lol :)
2014-03-28 17:26
Maybe not racist but VERY unprofessional.
2014-03-13 18:18
yes, it is.
2014-03-13 18:20
ESL is 100% right, this act was like racist and xenophoby. Do you think you cant say anything wrong about Judes and Blacks (or any other race) but you can say shit about Poland or any other country?
2014-03-13 18:23
ahahhahahha scumbag, never liked him, totally deserved it!
2014-03-13 18:12
fucking thorin at his best LOL /wave
2014-03-13 18:14
#435
Hong Kong Iky 
good riddance. bye thor"out"....
2014-03-13 18:15
If he just insulted the "political state" of Poland, nobody would care. But why start insulting the people ? Slovakia is pretty much similar. People are leaving the country to find better conditions for life somewhere else. The country is poor and corrupted. But if you put these things aside, it's also a beautiful land with nice culture, nature, people, places to visit etc.
2014-03-13 18:18
and then they wonder why nobody take cs comunity seriously, thanks Thorin, such a rlemodel , a front figure LOL
2014-03-13 18:28
I'd never seen this coming, but after all, I think this is for the best. The way he dresses, talks and generally behaves should not be tolerated in professional eSports. inb4 u h8 thorin comments
2014-03-13 18:28
Good riddance. If any of these organizers want CS:GO to gain mainstream attention and traction, getting rid of immature, provocative, and unprofessional announcers like Thorin is a great place to start. You can debate the definitions of "racism" and "xenophobia" all you want.. but at the end of the day, shoutcasters, who are often looked up to and trusted for eSports knowledge, and put in a position of responsibility as such, should not be fervently slinging insults at other countries. Nonsense like this should have no place in professional eSports, or professional ANYTHING for that matter.
2014-03-13 18:34
The only person with cs knowledge on this panel, and you remove him. Great job ESL !! :@
2014-03-13 18:45
hhahahah f. retard, this is why i dont fuckin like to listening to him, he always got some stupid comments to say
2014-03-13 18:50
I'm pretty sure what he said was true to some extent, but its the way he said it all that made it "racist", which to be honest was probably more offensive than racist. Although its a good thing they fired him, he always seemed like a dickbag looking for attention, wearing that USSR shirt, etc.
2014-03-13 18:58
Poland was rich but #390. Thorin is douchebag.
2014-03-13 19:10
He had an opinion and thats crucial mistake in this industry. The shows name is "unfiltered" but that doesn't mean you can actually say what you think. Here is example how it should be done! Q: "How are you feeling about going to work with esl in Poland?" A: "So hyped to go to back to Katowice, it's my second time there, such a great event. People there are nice and city is beautiful. Also super excited to get back to analyse games with Sirscoots, such an opinionated individual and a born entertainer. I also bought a suit this time to keep it professional"
2014-03-13 19:27
Yea, it would of being okay, and nobody would of noticed if he said this after the event.
2014-03-13 19:35
rofl :D "Maybe, it’s like when you have the Olympics somewhere in Africa and they can all pretend they’re part of the developed world for two weeks, and then everyone just leaves and they’re still in the dirt." Hahahha "When you are dead, you don't know that you are dead. It is difficult only for the others. It is the same when you are stupid." This fits the situation perfeclty.
2014-03-13 19:42
#498
 | 
Sweden Vilseledd 
ESL is the next MLG. No swearing, no opinions, no soul, no fun. Do your part! Watch with ad-block this weekend.
2014-03-13 19:43
No opinions? That's not even an opinion. That's bullshit. He came with up with that from nowhere. If you owned a company, would you just skip something like that? Don't think so. Anyway, this guy just showed he's a retarded cunt. Wondering how would you react if he told such bullshit about Sweden. About country being like the African ones.. Not a good comparison, I guess.
2014-03-13 19:55
#503
 | 
Sweden Vilseledd 
I've been all over Poland and I know there's some truth to what he said. Maybe I'd fire him aswell. Because why would I fly him over to a country he doesn't like, but pulling the racist card is just cringe-worthy. I think ESL really shit their bed on this one.
2014-03-13 20:01
I don't feel offended. Can't really get what was the point of saying that... It's true at some point, but we don't live as some of African people do. You can easily make 10-20k zl (4k euro which is a actually a lot of money in here) being a doctor or a lawyer.. And 80% of people is capable of studying this.
2014-03-13 21:14
deserved kick
2014-03-13 20:08
I think steel should be casting with somebody and giving player side comments like why they did this what they should do to counter that etc etc
2014-03-13 20:10
I wonder if Thorin has balls to say that again but infront of pasha. Don't think so.
2014-03-13 20:16
Is Pasha like the greatest thing you Poles have to talk about?
2014-03-13 20:18
just would like to see Thorin in pool of blood when he would get knocked down by pasha for saying shit like that.
2014-03-13 20:34
#554
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
oh god, imb4 jealousy
2014-03-13 21:19
What he said is true, I feel sorry for people who get offended because someone says the truth rather than covering up the fact that Poland is an awful country.
2014-03-13 20:19
The truth about you is that you are fat, ugly nolife. I hope you wont feel offended because i said truth.
2014-03-13 20:34
Hah, Polish people get mad so easily, come and wash my car please.
2014-03-13 20:37
i have in my garage Jaguar XF 2011 3.0 240 Hp (produced by TATA MOTORS!). You r driving what kid? : D VW Polo 92' ? Ok i can wash it, no problem.
2014-03-13 20:40
A Jaguar, woah, crazy! Seriously though, come wash my car, might have some work to do in the garden too.
2014-03-13 20:43
yeah a 50 000 Euro Jaguar. It is crazy car, believe me. I can wash your car, i can do your garden. It is not a problem for me. Your problem is fact that you feel better than others, but the truth is your not. I guess you are just uneducated fool.
2014-03-13 20:51
I don't feel better than others, I know what state my country is in at the moment, and I'll quite happily admit that. However Polish people must be in great deniel to think anything other than their country is terrible, backwards and poor.
2014-03-13 20:53
According to World Bank (2012) Poland has 24th strongest economy in the world (UK 6th, Norway 23th. Denmark 33th). According to The Economist (2014) Polish economy is one fastest growing in Europe. According to the globalfirepower.com Poland is the 18th military strongest country in world (UK 5th, Norway 39th, Denmark 43th). Accoridng to wikipedia, UK's external dept is 10,090,000,000,000, Poland's external dept is 326,000,000,000. So if you think that my country is poor, you are uneducated fool.
2014-03-13 21:13
Well, atleast he didn't take his education on Wikipedia, fool.
2014-03-13 21:16
#559
Poland rvT 
I'm afraid he didn't get his education at all
2014-03-13 21:26
Do you think that your words are an argument in discussion? Please write something worthy to our discussion.
2014-03-13 21:28
I'm simply using your own words on you, and I have no intention in having a discussion with you ;)
2014-03-13 21:34
Still no arguments. Please try, maybe you will figure out something. I hope so. But im affraid you are too stupid.
2014-03-13 21:38
21th
2014-03-14 11:00
#552
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
too bad you don't know who saved british arses in 1940.
2014-03-13 21:18
Who's that?
2014-03-13 21:18
50.000 euro for a car is not even expensive lol, that's like the normal price for a car here in Denmark. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_.. Could you find me Poland again? Your country is not rich at all lol. Even Greece is higher than you.
2014-03-14 12:23
you're retarded beyond measure. But lately I met a lot brits who are pricks and idiots so np, I would say it's normal for your country. Live in your little, pathetic world :)
2014-03-13 20:44
You probably met a lot, because like half of your country, you live over here.
2014-03-13 20:46
oh really? Check my ip, it's not that hard for someone who got at least half of brain. I would never move to your country. To be honest, if you ask me - UK is ugly as fuck, I mean geographically + try to live ONE day with such fucktards like british people... No way. /end of story, no more discussion with retarded fagg
2014-03-13 21:11
haha :D
2014-03-14 03:14
The guy that no one likes from cadred and now on HLTV detected. Fuck off you cunt.
2014-03-14 10:51
sry to disappoint you... i am not that guy whoever it is.
2014-03-14 12:22
Moron detected.
2014-03-14 04:12
Thorin is realy arrogant prick..
2014-03-13 20:21
the world would be a better place without that dick anyway
2014-03-13 20:22
The ESL clearly took the right decision. Those were extremely inappropriate comments (not to mention ignorant and insulting to the people living in Poland and Africa) and keeping him in the casting crew would have been tantamount to condoning what he said.
2014-03-13 20:25
Dude you can't troll poor countries as racist and dilapidated as they are. Go after murica no body would care. His main problem, and my main problem, with these counties and people is how biggoted and anti-gay they are. Basically if you don't accept others differences you should get absolutly no respect. Like racist southerners from America. F*EM
2014-03-13 20:29
the problem with brainless cunts like you or thorin is the fact that you generalise the whole nation based on the views of a few brainless cunts (like yourself) from "poor" countries like poland.
2014-03-13 20:36
I don't live there, and maybe you can speak in more detail. Maybe Poland isn't as anti-black anti-gay anti-women's rights as I have grouped them with the other x-soviet countries Europe. So, certainly your country is on the rise and well seated in Europe but how do you feel about it's social aspects? More to the point could you have a good life there as a minority?
2014-03-15 21:31
Wasn't even that bad? Fucking oversensitive idiots.
2014-03-13 20:31
xd
2014-03-13 20:39
Tbh we're in better shape than 75% countries in Europe :O Typical for this arrogant prick, couldn't expect anything else than this.
2014-03-13 20:42
deserved
2014-03-13 20:53
Poland so butthurt
2014-03-13 20:55
#641
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
teph so brainless
2014-03-14 09:31
yyeeeaahhh I don't know what people are bitching about, he said shit which is not really irrevelant sooo I can't understand all the fuss going around it. Every country has its pros and cons including Poland, U.S.A., Germany etc. and there will always be something to moan about. Some people here are rich some are poor, some are having a great life others don't, just like everywhere. Intelligent person should respect other people, countries, beliefs etc. and never offend without a reason, especially in public. The most funny thing is that Thorin considers himself a citizen of a developed country and still behaves a little bit like a primitive. :) Peace out
2014-03-13 20:57
fire him
2014-03-13 21:11
I'm available.
2014-03-13 21:49
Hahahhahahah, he made my day. Polen is Polen, and Ukraine is worst than Polen :D :D
2014-03-13 22:13
I know you. You are one of Bullerby children!
2014-03-13 22:27
Wrong. But hey, are u the carpenter who was on "Fuskbyggarna"?
2014-03-13 22:47
Do you think that carpenters are worse people than you, poor kid? You have a major issue then.
2014-03-13 22:59
You dont call yourself carpenter if you doesnt know a shit about it. If you ask those guys, can you fix my house. The anser is: No problem, i fix. Then you ask again: Can you do a surgery? No problem, i fix. When people acting like that, we have a big problem.
2014-03-14 06:53
We dont have problem. U have beacuse you are racist and your life is very sad, full of hate and tears.
2014-03-14 09:06
Again you dont know a shit. Then i'm racist against Swedish? Because we have idiots here to. The matter of fact, my son is half swedish and half iranier. So dont mention racist.
2014-03-14 10:36
You wrote that swedish child at age of ten can earn more cash than polish person will ever earn during all of his life, and then you changed it to some nonsens bullshit about carpenters (lol, wtf?). You are racist piece of you know what. I will be praying for your son to not be like his father.
2014-03-14 10:58
Funny how you turn it to your way. I wrote: (Those) kids. It's a big different of all kids an those kids in a sentence.and i did delete it because it has nothing to do with it. I now realize what you wrote from the beginning and it makes clear who is racist. You! Its a big different about racist and peoples attitude. I'm talking attitude no matter which country your from.
2014-03-14 11:43
I'm racist. Said badboll who thinks that "Polen is Polen, and Ukraine is worst than Polen".You are not only racist, but stupid racist. I don't know what are you trying to prove. That i'm racist or that you are not racist? If you are not racist so why words like: "Poland is "shitty" "racist" country where people "live in dirt", are "throwing banana peels on black people" and Polish people "have got that existential hole of being Polish" made your day as you wrote in first post?
2014-03-14 12:17
The matter of fact i thought it was so funny because he was going to Polen and made such a big misstake by saying that and even put Ukraine in it. It was the situation that was extremly funny and sad. But i apologize if you did feel bad, i were not laughting about Polen as country. It was Thorin for his big fail.
2014-03-14 12:51
#573
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Denmark LnDcsgo 
Trash talk me, words aren't bullets. - Stop cry.
2014-03-13 22:23
go back to pokeball LnDnatormon!
2014-03-13 22:42
#588
 | 
Denmark LnDcsgo 
Foreveralone2k14!
2014-03-13 23:17
;-(
2014-03-13 23:33
Nice. His knowledge of CS is on the same level as his knowledge of European countries. He is living like 15 years in the past.
2014-03-13 22:29
LMFAO, classic thorin... dude's a boss and speaks the truth.. even if he is a bit of an asshole, it's fucking hilarious
2014-03-13 22:30
Truth hurts it seems...
2014-03-13 23:06
You are fat, ugly nolife. I hope that didnt hurt you, because this is truth about you.
2014-03-13 23:08
Haha. :D
2014-03-13 23:10
Please don't cry. Truth hurts it seems.... im sorry
2014-03-13 23:11
"one of the worst countries in Europe" that's pretty much a fact no matter what you say. :D
2014-03-13 23:13
The worst country in Europe is COUNTRY OF RACISM. But i have to say that according to World Bank's data (2012), Polish economy is the 24th strongest in the world, finish 43th. Go back to your pokeball of poorness and racism tecomon.
2014-03-13 23:27
I have nothing against Poland or Polish people. Your country is just not as developed as many other countries... You don't need to be mad.
2014-03-14 01:55
My country is developed and still developing. Not developed like Japan, but don't worry about us - sooner or later we will catch up with more developed countries. It is not a point of discussion here. The point is that you are agreeing with words, that Poland is dirty, shitty, racist, and we've got existential hole being Polish. You are f***ing racist.
2014-03-14 08:34
#642
 | 
Latvia Ke]R[4u 
polska strong
2014-03-14 09:32
#640
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Get some historical, political and economical knowledge before raising up your retarded opinion.
2014-03-14 09:30
I don't need. I have them already.
2014-03-14 11:29
#705
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Seems like you don't, at all. So, get it.
2014-03-15 14:00
yep...
2014-03-14 02:07
Thoorin and lurppis the 2 best casters by far, gonna miss ya thoorin
2014-03-13 23:35
who cares about this scumbag?? He's retarded and should be banned on every esport event and sites for his intolerance
2014-03-14 00:53
How tolerant of you.
2014-03-14 01:06
Unfiltered #43 quote from Destiny "But compared to like Ukraine or Romania" Destiny, you're a disgrace, life was to good to take you in.
2014-03-14 01:58
truth hurts
2014-03-14 04:56
#637
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
using brain hurts
2014-03-14 09:29
"ESL does not stand by or tolerate acts of racism, xenophobia or other forms of discrimination" the word you are looking for is "truth"
2014-03-14 02:05
Truth ? Who give's you (them) the right to judge someone ? or a hole country ? We are pathetic, all of us, them for beeing what they are, what they sayd, and us for having to tolerate it or worse, ACCEPT IT(like you), without doing nothing.
2014-03-14 02:16
Guys, there is no point of discussing this topic. IEM is an event for professional teams with professional casters. They don't need guys who dress like a bum and talk shit about the other countries. You don't like Poland, Thorin ? So get hell outta here man, no one wants you here.
2014-03-14 02:12
Thorin is kinda right though, but should have kept his opinions to him self.
2014-03-14 02:16
why? if he is right why wouldnt he allowed to speak the truth? pc really is the cancer of the 21th century
2014-03-14 02:38
Because he was just about to cast in the freaking country, it's called being professional and humble. Think before you reply, please.
2014-03-14 03:16
I think that cancer of 20th and 21th century are austrian racists
2014-03-14 09:21
#649
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Azerbaijan Talley 
Agreed
2014-03-14 10:09
to me it wasn't even what he said. to me it's all stereotypical bullshit he got fed from someone or is dumb to believe it's like there everywhere in Poland. what's more interesting to me is the edge on him with what he said. he went out of his way to spend about 5 minutes bashing Poland. i mean, why bother?
2014-03-14 02:36
#636
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
because stupid ginger? In all seriousness he's british, what did you expect, "stereotypical bullshit" is common there.
2014-03-14 09:28
#610
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Mexico TurboDreams 
I don't get this given the name of the podcast is called "Unfiltered" hence you can talk about anything you want. IMO he shouldn't of been removed just because of a podcast, but that's IEM's decision.
2014-03-14 03:01
a caster with that kind of skill package should be able to think before he actually says something that is not connected to CS during the cast, its highly unappropriate to talk shit about the country who is hosting the event and helping him to achieve even higher status in cs history + he gets more fans.
2014-03-14 03:26
Racism is one of the worst things. So, it's right decision.
2014-03-14 03:55
science hurts hm?
2014-03-14 08:36
#635
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
using your brain hurts hm?
2014-03-14 09:27
try it!
2014-03-14 12:26
i rember well back then when taz or someone esle from the tarded 5 screamed "fuck china" the same guys who found this sooo funny back then are now qqing...
2014-03-14 05:48
There's a slight difference between a caster and a player..
2014-03-14 06:55
I havent heard Taz QQing about his comments. Please reveal your source.
2014-03-14 15:12
read, understand and THEN post.
2014-03-14 15:29
Done diddely doo.
2014-03-14 15:41
That was Loord and he apologized formally on the stream and in writing. His PC kept crashing during a tight game and that was a frustrated, impulsive thing. Not the same thing with Thoorin. He was under literally zero emotional pressure.
2014-03-15 14:34
LOL NOOB BYE
2014-03-14 06:49
You should raise his money! not kick him!
2014-03-14 08:29
#625
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Norway Drolsum 
<3THORIN
2014-03-14 08:33
#626
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
FUCK HIM
2014-03-14 08:34
Pasha should kick his ass? :D
2014-03-14 08:47
so stupid by ESL ban Thorin from casting based on some Unfiltered show. Totaly overreacted
2014-03-14 09:01
I have an idea. You should tatoo a nazi svastika on your forehead - we will find out if your employer a) will totaly overreact nad fire you or b) is going to give you a raise. Opinions posted on youtube are like tattoos on forehead , everyone can see them.
2014-03-14 09:14
Let me go tell the 5th grader making polish jokes that he's a neo-nazi. Touched a nerve.
2014-03-15 21:37
Am I the only person that can't stand the way that Thorin talks like this? You know, where everything has a question mark at the end of it? With an upward inflection? At the end of every sentence?
2014-03-14 09:27
ahahhaha ye, he was annoying and remember dh? that lackers tshirt jeezzz
2014-03-14 09:41
it's like a girl from The OC put on a ginger wig and an ugly mask. fucking hell...
2014-03-14 13:45
Deserved, "Poland is one of worst country in Europe" who the *ack is he to decide.
2014-03-14 09:30
his voice was annoying and nothing special about him. and seems like bad mannered, when you are a guest you dont talk bad about them, especially when 100k viewers are watching you, what a jerk
2014-03-14 09:40
I never liked him anyways, he thinks he knows so MUCH about everything, the dude is trash @ csgo + casting. Hope to never see him again.
2014-03-14 09:49
hahaha that shit was hysterical. on the serious side of things I can see how many polish people can feel a little offended by what he just said. Poland has a shaky history, especially during the 20st century it was opressed by nations around it. also making fun of people who had to leave everything behind to seek work and prosperity because they had no other choice (they really didn't!) is just idiotic on Thorin's part. I think he just wanted to be funny but he crossed the line a little. :D
2014-03-14 10:34
He haven't talked about polish homeless unemployed people who went to UK, he said that Poland is "shitty" "racist" country where people "live in dirt", are "throwing banana peels on black people" and Polish people "have got that existential hole of being Polish". You say he crossed the line just a little?
2014-03-14 11:11
Since I don't really give a shit about others opinion I don't think I'd be offended by Thorin talking shit about my homeland. Yet I can see that what he did was really inappropriate and I completely understand you and any other polish person who took it personally. He needed to be kicked out from the event. Also an apology from him would be obligatory but knowing Thorin I don't think that'll ever happen.
2014-03-14 11:15
Not surprising hes from the most racist country in the entire world and hes white, his comments make him even more of a hypocrite, as he discriminates Poland while saying racism toward Africans still exists in Poland and happened 50 years ago in developed EU countries has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. Racism towards Africans in the EU still exists in every fkn European country and its worse where hes from than in Poland fkn retard. No one liked him anyway this is a step forward fk him.
2014-03-14 11:07
Yeah, but I really love how he went out of his way to bash Poland. No one even asked him about Poland, they were talking about something that didn't have shit to do with what he said. Damn, he is really mad. I think it's actually good that they didn't end up sending him there, he'd probably get knocked the fuck out if he showed up in Poland.
2014-03-14 11:21
ESL, kindergarten
2014-03-14 11:22
It's like campbell before Euro 2012 all over again, jeez...
2014-03-14 11:45
Obviously Thorin has never listened to Sabaton - 40 1 to hear what a great country it can be!
2014-03-14 11:50
#677
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Indonesia Shinopp 
+48
2014-03-14 12:27
its funny cause africa got more resources then the whole EU combine.ungrateful land robbers.
2014-03-14 12:43
Is it accepted that those African tribe leaders sold their friends and siblings for slaves to America?
2014-03-14 13:24
deserved
2014-03-14 12:45
I'm sorry for Thorin because i don't think he ment it that serious, maybe he wanted to make a dirty joke and did not think about his words before... but on the other hand ESL did the right thing, to prevent getting hit from the shitstorm aswell :) Don't give up Thorin, i hope we can soon read something from you. Keep your head up :D
2014-03-14 12:58
He's actually constantly slipping up and saying thick unnecessary things about teams/players. Example: While listing the team lineups with the pics at a recent lan, he got to jw and said "JW, well JW just looks like a fish". Now i cant remember whether he said fish/pig/duck, it doesn't matter. I don't care if the whole of HLTV says this about JW, it's completely inappropriate for a "professional analyst" to say something like that live on stream. Never mind that, i think it's inappropriate for people to comment on other's appearances like this, but hey kids will be kids. The guy is clearly socially inept and cant control what comes out of his mouth. This time around he just so happened to offend the country that he was going to be working in, like the complete oblivious fool that he is. Its unbelievable to me that you would offer any support.
2014-03-14 17:59
#706
BnTeT | 
Poland Freezak 
Get some brain before making any comments you ignorant fool.
2014-03-15 14:02
co to jest, co to kurwa jest!?
2014-03-14 12:59
Having listened to the podcast (youtube.com/watch?v=R4wVBu7n6aw&feature=.. I think what he said was totally misjudged, but not genuine racism. I reckon Thorin was just trying to get a cheap laugh by saying something controversial. He should be asked to make a public apology on the next episode and leave it at that.
2014-03-14 13:36
There we go
2014-03-14 13:41
the guy is just braindamaged hope biceps will show him what is Polska Szlachta
2014-03-14 13:45
Poland hates Thorin like Kazahstan hates Borat , haha
2014-03-14 15:32
THORIN idk where u get that all shit news but come to Poland and start insulting after visit in Poland . U talking about things you do not know.I live in England, and many things about whom you say may place in everyday life in England so please stop bullshit.
2014-03-14 15:42
finally
2014-03-14 15:43
i thought thorin is pretty clever guy, maybe little bit egoistic, but i would never expect from him being that dumb to reveal public such a controversial opinion.
2014-03-14 15:47
thorin u ugly shit :DDD
2014-03-14 17:49
GJ
2014-03-14 18:05
His comments were the best i have ever heard :D CAUSE IT'S TRUE xD Carpenter country
2014-03-15 20:49
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