A brief look at Titan and coaching

lurppis
July 4th, 2014 17:43

We take a quick look at coaching and its possibilities in Counter-Strike following Titan's decision to hire one on a trial basis for ESL One Cologne.

I have felt since 2009 that if Counter-Strike ever becomes large enough, coaches will become natural sixth members of each team due to the possibilities they open for improvement. In 2009 to 2010 I attended multiple World Cyber Games events while representing American EG, and was thus not allowed to actually play, but simply coach the team.

I was allowed to function as the in-game leader during freezetime, basically telling one of the players what I wanted them to do, mostly in terms of set strats, but also sometimes in terms of general ideas if I wanted them to improvise. I quickly noticed calling is a lot easier when you can see the monitors of all five players at once, and if done correctly, allowing a coach to speak during the round as well could make all teams a lot better.

You would no longer lose a round because a player with weak communication skills forgot to say something, and you'd be able to time every single execution down to a tee. Coaching has a lot of perks - and if Counter-Strike ever starts involving enough money to pay for full-time coaches, they will be around, because they will make teams better.

Coaching is the future, but I'm not sure Titan, whom we're focusing on here due to their decision to add a coach as the first top team worldwide, is the right team to implement it in. Let's take a quick look why that may be.


Will a coach be able to fix what's broken in Titan? 

Titan should not need coaching

I thought we'd all been in agreement that Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans is one of if not the best in-game leader out there. If that's the case, surely they would be exactly the kind of team who would not benefit much from coaching? I understand a successful team should look for competitive advantages everywhere, but out of all of the world's top teams, I would say Titan would need it the least, followed by Na`Vi in second place.

Although ESL is allowing coaches to speak during the rounds - at least in playoffs, according to Alexander "crtmN" Nehr - most of what they can do, especially at first, is point out mistakes after rounds to help the team adjust faster, and anything related to preparation before the event actually kicks off. Titan live together; they have all the time in the world to prepare, and seemingly have already done it. Why else would they have allowed Richard "shox" Papillon to leave, instead of letting him stay at home more?

Titan already are capable of playing a very strategic style, which means some extra help in that regard could actually even hurt the team, as the opinions of Droolans and the team's new coach Arthur "le Poireau Malefique" Guillermet could differ and create tension within the squad. It's also a style they've been trying to move away from for almost a year. They could use help with mid round calling, which Papillon provided, but an outsider coach's ability to jump right in and make those calls has to be called to question.

The gaming house is another factor to consider here. If Titan were a team unable to bootcamp before events and generally lacking practice, à la compLexity or iBUYPOWER, this could be huge for them - but they aren't. They are the exact opposite. Again, I understand you go for anything that may give you the slightest edge, but I don't see Titan getting much out of this.


They won before without coaching, why can't they do it again? 

They hired the wrong coach

To my understanding Droolans' strengths are preparing the team well. By that I mean coming up with new strategies, dry-running them, making sure everyone knows what they're doing and preparing for other teams by watching demos and analyzing their playing styles. All of the things listed above require hard work and dedication; two key qualities for a coach.

Concidentally the ideal coach is someone who would enjoy doing all of those things, and be very good at them. Not only is Droolans painfully aware of every single Titan player's strengths and weaknesses, he's clearly hard working and interested in the strategic aspect in the game. Finally, Droolans isn't a good fragger - his KPR is identical to NiP's Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson's, and you'll be hard pressed to find a game where he was a key fragger for his team.

What Titan should have done, if it is an option, is make Droolans their coach, abandon the silly gaming house concept, and bring back Papillon, who is capable of making the mid-round calls that Droolans may not be allowed to. Titan can use help with mid round calls and quick decision making, but a coach can't help with that. A coach could allow Droolans focus more on fragging, but how could they let a complete outsider take over the reigns of the team?

Had it been Droolans, I could have seen it happening - he's already proven his approach to Counter-Strike can yield results, and I have little doubt the team would trust him completely in his new role. Will Droolans let a coach with little experience, compared to him and his teammates, overrule him when the score is tied at fourteen in the deciding map? I doubt it.


Ex6TenZ could be the perfect coach for Titan 

A sign of desperation?

Once again, a smart team will attempt to gain any small advantage they can, and that includes coaching. If Titan have a coach who can give them even a five percent boost in terms of performance, it might be enough to get them over the hump in their next tournaments. They've been very close since the year begun - but still fallen short in the end.

This could be interpreted as a sign of desperation. Many voiced concern over Droolans, according to Auguste "Semmler" Massonnat's translation of the Titan in-game leader's interview, decision to start playing with a more loose style, similar to that of NiP's. Titan already did that just under a year ago - and it yielded results. However, is moving further into that direction the correct move, and how on earth would coaching help them get there?

Titan's current roster isn't necessarily a great fit for that kind of playing style. Their communication seems erratic, and they hardly possess the calmness and strong team work that NiP clearly has, based on watching them play live. The free-wheeling style of play NiP is famous for requires great communication, strong team work, and lots of individual skill. Currently Titan may be lacking in all three of those categories, none of which coaching will help.

To me Titan needs more skill if they wish to move forward with this approach. It's possible they're setting things up for Droolans to retire later this year - as he did suggest last year's ESWC would be his last - but even if so, it seems like a huge gamble to take, and one that from an outsider's perspective doesn't make a lot of sense. Nevertheless, it will be very interesting to see how it plays out.


Something has to change in Titan 

ESL One Cologne may be the last chance for Titan before a major overhaul. 2014 has been a disappointment, and the last personnel changes to go for include a change in leadership.

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n1
2014-07-04 17:43
they're not first with coaching, fnatic announced it earlier
2014-07-04 18:01
#2
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Poland metal_cs 
n1, i belive titan can back to top3
2014-07-04 17:45
fail
2014-07-04 17:44
#4
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Poland metal_cs 
ye 4 s
2014-07-04 17:44
xD
2014-07-04 17:47
You mean, Top 1 :)
2014-07-05 19:42
#151
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Poland metal_cs 
nope
2014-07-05 19:58
Than who was the Top 1? NiP? Titan always rekt NiP back in those days, i remember that 1 time they someting like 16-4 over NiP
2014-07-10 23:44
#168
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Poland metal_cs 
there none one is top 1 :) hard to choose top 5 from Nip Dignitas VP IBP and maybe titan so many teams like ex SK,Mouse, COL, fnatic, HR, Navi etc.
2014-07-10 23:58
+1 ;p
2014-07-07 12:57
as long as it helps them i dont care
2014-07-04 17:45
Agreed +1 couldn't said it any better.
2014-07-05 05:12
#6
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Belgium FnX^ 
basicly lurppis says - ex6 go to coach + shox :p
2014-07-04 17:45
-gaming house -ex6 to coach +shox Top 1 ezpz
2014-07-04 17:48
+1 fo sho
2014-07-04 19:34
and maybe u as igl...
2014-07-06 14:18
And I agree, it's a smart idea.
2014-07-04 17:57
thanks ... saved me the trouble of reading through and it seems logical
2014-07-04 20:33
#82
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Belgium FnX^ 
your very welcome :)
2014-07-04 20:39
#7
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Brazil autismo 
yolo
2014-07-04 17:45
n2
2014-07-04 17:46
nx
2014-07-04 17:46
Just remove Ex6TenZ and add a different IGL who will change their playstyle and use their talent which is that they are amazing individual players and need more free roles, Titan have had everything a gaminghouse great players, theyve been playing since the beginning of CSGO and yet they havent won that much or nothing compared to NiP, Ex6TenZ is holding them back he was good in Source but that doesnt mean shit in CSGO where he has been shit both individually and as a strat caller, the only tournaments theyve won they won them because of shox amazing individual performances
2014-07-04 17:47
who has won a lot compared to nip?
2014-07-05 03:44
Coming from Source and dominating there they were supposed to be the next big thing, the other teams werent. Also no other team has had so many good individual players in a team: shox, ScreaM, RpK, NBK, kennyS, Smithzz
2014-07-05 03:58
#12
World mhk- 
- Ex6TenZ + area ex6TenZ coaching
2014-07-04 17:47
Would be awesome to see area back haha and see him playing against all the top teams, but he won't return :/.
2014-07-04 18:12
shame he can only play byoc.
2014-07-05 03:44
X)
2014-07-05 13:14
Still going to flop at EMS.
2014-07-04 17:47
first they need to qualify, but shouldnt be a problem^^
2014-07-05 00:17
smithzz needs to get his shit together
2014-07-04 17:50
#16
Vietnam aNup 
Completely agreed, why would they just listen to some 1 with less competitive experience than them. Ex6 to coach, bring back Shox, and just fucking FRAG 'EM UP !!!
2014-07-04 17:50
#17
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Austria db42 
I think its the gaming house and the departure of shoxie which teared them apart ot what they are now.
2014-07-04 17:50
good read coach - bullshit
2014-07-04 17:54
Hmmm, I feel like you have taken the wrong approach. Ex6TenZ has been a solid team-leader for Titan, and he has been appraised for the role he plays, and rightfully so. What I do believe Titan might need is a "new guy" to work with them and observe the team with neutral eyes and a blank paper. I do not know if this coach is the right for the job as I know ~nothing about him, but I don't think Ex6TenZ would be the perfect fit to step down into the coach role. GL Titan.
2014-07-04 17:55
poor little lurpi boy wants to coach nip one day :)
2014-07-04 18:05
#23
ANGE1 | 
Russia monte:) 
HR will beat them one more time even with 100 coachzz
2014-07-04 18:05
time is up, ex6tenz.
2014-07-04 18:05
keyword being brief. Just assumptions and you clearly have zero knowledge about PM or his knowledge or lack thereof. I'm not sure coaching is going to help them or not, but my reasoning isn't that it wont help just because I have no clue about who their "saucer" coach is.
2014-07-04 18:07
Love how everybody says -ex6, when he returned from his exams last time they where the best team in the world for some time. I havnt analysed all of their games but i really doubt that the root of their problems lie with ex6 alone ;D
2014-07-04 18:09
#39
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
they're probably just going through a bad phase. nip was in that same spot, not too long ago.
2014-07-04 18:21
NiP still finished in top3-4 at every event with their "struggles", while Titan got knocked down in groupstages/quarter-finals.
2014-07-04 18:36
You also gotta look at the scene in general - there are so many good teams and there isnt a clear cut top1. Yeah we can all agree that NiP perform better than everybody else in the long run, but they dont win every event and i think its great that the scene is super competetive!
2014-07-04 18:43
nip was in that same spot can you tell me when please? they were in every final(except last tournament).when they had phase where they ended in group stage? or failed in quarter/semifinal? they hadnt phase like titan has atm at all rofl...
2014-07-04 18:46
#100
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
Yet failed to win? I mean, you're #1 in the world and place #2, it's worse than being top3/4/5 and placing 4th/5th/6th.. PS: the fanbois who lost all their beloved skins and money bets, disagree with you.
2014-07-04 23:27
you're #1 in the world and place #2, it's worse than being top3/4/5 and placing 4th/5th/6th.. r u high or something? how is finishing first/second worse than finishing 4/5/6? and how is finishing in every final in every tournament the same phase as go home after group stage or fail in quarter final? two different things...and i dont care about bets at all(i dont even bet)
2014-07-05 12:43
#141
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
if your team is considered the best in the world you're expected to win every tournament, considering that fact, you fail when you don't win a tournament
2014-07-05 14:26
but its still different case...vg/titan were second best team,probably the best team in certain period in the world.now? they are barely top5-10 and they failed in group stage in the biggest tournament in history and failed at dream hack while nip is still the best/second best team in the world.im not saying that they are as dominant as they used to be but how can you even compare them with vg...
2014-07-05 15:13
you are a saucer and a saucr igl,ofcourse you will support him,you dont want the sAuce igl legacy to be over in cs go
2014-07-04 18:22
You win the internet! How did i not see that... you win sir!
2014-07-04 18:41
He is wrong. They need one player with huge experience in CS. They are young so maybe they can't focus too much. And stop defending Ex6. Tehy kick shoxie i think he want it. Maybe shoxie tell him that he is making bad tactics. You will see in future when Dignitas will be like Titan. It's gonna be fast move from organistation. Kick you find new IGL or disband.
2014-07-04 18:59
wtf did i just read
2014-07-04 19:24
Good read fully agree. 10/10.
2014-07-08 14:42
get a life
2014-07-04 18:59
nonsensical but hilarious :D
2014-07-04 20:26
#112
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United Kingdom tejas_moksha 
+1 retard comment of the year
2014-07-05 01:05
i love you, dont ever change
2014-07-05 02:25
#28
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Denmark fyhn 
As for right now I don't have time to read this whole thing, so just quickly scrolled through it and "A sign of desperation" is exactly what I thought when i saw the first post, with them hiring a coach. Looking forward to reading this.
2014-07-04 18:09
Maybe eX6 will retire this year and they are prepairing for it like this, or maybe indeed he will move as coach, either way they need a buffer period.
2014-07-04 18:09
Well, I think I disagree with everything that is written here :p For me, it seems like Titan is the first ever CS team that wants to solve issues other way then only by changing lineup. Good for them, we'll see how it goes. And then, looking at all the south korean gaming houses and south korean supremacy in e-sports, I would think twice (or more) before writting "silly gaming house concept" ;) And the sentence "They won before without coaching, why can't they do it again?" seems to me, like it could be written by anyone BUT the man who knows a lot about team games. Sorry lurppis, but it feels (from this article) like the only cure to cs problems is to change the roster. I disagree with that, simply by reminding that every player from Titan's current roster have provided good results in the past (in go or previous versions). And if they manage to overcome the issues, they will be so much stronger personally, they will leave all other teams in the dust (no pun intended :p) for ages! Keep in mind, that it's my personal opinion, noone needs to agree with it ;) Time will tell ;)
2014-07-04 18:09
the first cs team that wants to solve issues other way but changing lineup?what about NiP?they changed lineup three times(rpk,kennys,shox) wuTttT
2014-07-04 18:21
Titan is the first ever CS team that wants to solve issues other way then only by changing lineup u kidding right?
2014-07-04 18:48
elaborate, please ;)
2014-07-04 19:58
do you think that titan have stable lineup? they changed lineup three times already...rpk,kennys,shox and i think that they will change lineup soon. there are more stable teams(nip,ad etc) and the sentence that "Titan is the first ever CS team that wants to solve issues other way then only by changing lineup" is just joke,sorry:)
2014-07-05 12:46
I admit that saying "first ever" may be an exaggeration, but I see it like that: They changed the lineup three times and this worked for some time only with shox (afaik). So this time they are looking for another way to solve it ;) ad for nip and ad, I dont think their positions are similiar to titan's. NiP is producing the most consistens top result probably for the last year, while I think AD are still considered as underdogs, with their big win still to come. On the other hand, Titan was a top2 (or even top1) team that now seems to be on a downfall. They are trying everything to change it ;) Well, I just hope they are going to fix the problems without making any lineup changes, just to see (or rather "not see") the comments of those moaning "-exisnub", becasue I feel that is not the way ;) We shall see ;)
2014-07-05 18:25
i agree with you almost in everything(#30) and with this post aswell...i just disagree with that specific sentence:)
2014-07-05 18:51
Good that we finally made it clear ;) cheers, bro! :)
2014-07-06 10:55
#31
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom dv-_- 
Good read, makes a lot of sense. I'm not too sure shox would be the best replacement though, especially if it costs them a gaming house. He did leave the gaming house largely because of the poor results though, so maybe some good results would make him re-consider how dedicated he is willing to be.
2014-07-04 18:11
nkbRAGE
2014-07-04 18:15
#35
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
tl;dr main thing that stuck though : a competitive team will look EVERYTHING up to get the slightest advantage.
2014-07-04 18:19
-ex6tenz to coach and +shoxie instead of him would be perfect but i guess ex6tenz wants to keep on playing sooo
2014-07-04 18:19
- Ex6tenz + shox - Smithzz + aPex Ex6tenz coach No gaming house 4-5 days bootcamp before major event I bet this would make a team which will rule CS:GO
2014-07-04 18:21
#43
France x453 
They need a support player...
2014-07-04 18:27
NBK. He should do this for his team. When your team have entry-fragger, mad-fragger better than you then for team success you can be act as support player. Nothing wrong in that. Look at Neo. Thogh he is legend, he actsas igl and support player because pasha and new talent snax is better in mad fragging and byali in entry-fragging. So, I think he should do.
2014-07-04 18:36
isn't NBK support?
2014-07-04 19:52
Nice write-up lurppis, I agree with you for the most part.
2014-07-04 18:23
Why exactly is the gaming house silly again? I heard rumors that a smart team will attempt to gain any small advantage they can.
2014-07-04 18:28
they tried, and then their organization didn't realize all it did was cause issues, leading to the world's 2nd best player's departure. it's clearly not working out, and i have theories as to why, but i'll talk about them on another day.
2014-07-04 23:12
#101
MUTiRiS | 
Portugal antCB 
if people don't click together as friends, living together will only make things worse. gaming houses might work fine if the team is an intricate group of friends, willing to live with and accept others differences/addictions/wtv. having a fixed place to train would be better than having a gaming house (all year round), and probably cheaper as well.
2014-07-04 23:30
I'm not arguing that the gaming house might have caused problems for Titan, but I don't think that shox stating it as a reason for his departure justifies labelling the general idea as silly. If he had decided to stay, would you still say the same? Were you skeptical about it from the start or did your opinion change due to the underperformance? As for myself, I honestly thought it was a logical next step for them.
2014-07-05 00:15
ever since living in a partial gaming house myself, i've felt like they are a terrible idea - i speak from experience. i think the ideal situation is bootcamping before every event, but living together (which requires cutting 90% of your social life as well) is just asking for problems.
2014-07-05 04:45
May i know if NiP is still living together in a gaming house? I am curious. And yes i totally agree with you in regards to gaming house, makes it feel like you are a prisoner. I feel that Titan should change to the whole gaming house idea to more of a vacation/bootcamp house where they will live together for a short period from time to time when there are upcoming tournaments or when they feel they need to get back their edge, but this might not be economically possible. With this they might actually feel fun and looking forward for these sessions. Then again these are all just pure speculations. We possibly might never know what is happening in the house and the events that truly led to shoxie's departure. =(
2014-07-05 06:13
nip never lived in a gaming house where did you get that from ? they have a house in which they bootcamp before events, but they NEVER EVER lived in a gaming house together, f0rest lives with his girlfriend, gtr too, other dont know
2014-07-05 12:24
Omg lol really? My whole life is a lie then. I thought they did because i saw the video in which GTR toured around the house which i thought was theirs. youtube.com/watch?v=GzybzqoGaqY
2014-07-05 13:48
Thanks for the insight, Tomi! Quite an interesting topic in a broad sense... I'm intrigued by the fact that after 10 years of team-based pro-gaming, still nobody seems to have figured out what the perfect practise regimen looks like.
2014-07-05 16:35
Every team needs a coach unless the team can coach themself.
2014-07-04 18:29
gaming house doesnt help EU only for koreans
2014-07-04 18:41
KICK EX6NUB ScreaM shoxie SIXER kennyS NBK GG
2014-07-04 18:45
Shoxie, the only player whose fan nickname is actually longer than his actual call name.
2014-07-04 18:57
ex6 coach +shox = best in da w0rld
2014-07-04 18:54
Bad thread sorry to say.
2014-07-04 19:02
I actually think they've just made the worst decision possible. Bringing this guy -whoever he is- is not gonna help the team to move forward. They need a player change + an igl touch.
2014-07-04 19:07
NBK ScreaM KennyS Shox SmithZz Would actually be an absolutely insane roster on paper if you ask me. I think Ex6TenZ would be a great coach, just like Lurppis is pointing out. I hope they'll get there eventually.
2014-07-04 19:13
#79
Italy One. 
+1
2014-07-04 20:22
i like the aspect of adding a coach we see it in LoL & Dota2 already and some teams preform way better a month orso after adding a coach but i do wonder if Titan will benefit from this as they have Ex6TenZ who as stated could fit that role perfectly and could free up room for another addition of a skilled player to the Titan squad.
2014-07-04 19:15
Seems like desperation to me, like they're in denial that they need a roster change and are looking for any other possible solution. I'd say it's more worth it getting rid of the gaming house and taking back shox, maybe only using it before majors.
2014-07-04 19:20
why would someone listen to lurpiss ? he never achivied much , just being butthurt arrogant "writer" over hltv other toilet article.
2014-07-04 19:20
Bad article actually, he is saying that the coach will not help titans to improve communication, individual skill and strats calling. So the coach is just someone speaking japanese behind de players? I see this text as try to put ex6 down beacuse personal issues. Just saying my opinion
2014-07-04 19:24
i dont see giving my +1 on this either.. espacially cause you dont see Titan talk much when theyre attending lans? a Coach could clearly work on that. on top of that, ex6 gains more time to improve his aim when the weight of analyzing all demos doesnt lay alone on his shoulders..
2014-07-05 01:04
cant say i agree to well with them not needing a coach. I think you underestimate all the different ways in which a coach can help a team. Having seen them slowly be introduced to LoL NA and EU scenes over the past 2 years, a coach that is professional and committed isn't just valuable, it's fundamentally essential. The bulk of Guillermet effectiveness will not be during a game helping with calling, it will be training, scrims, day to day stuff, preperation for games. It's one more voice to add alongside ex6tenz. To me just about every sign out of the Titan camp points to either roster change or a coach. I do agree that perhaps ex6tenz would have been a better pick for coach, and Titan bringing in a new, keen stud player. But in a game like csgo, i dunno if it's so wise messing around with calling/ingame duties, ex6 is not the problem.
2014-07-04 19:49
#74
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
- Ex6tenz ( coach ) + Area GGGGGGGG
2014-07-04 19:48
Excuse me. Area?
2014-07-08 00:27
+ shoxie... or continuous disappointment from the Titan
2014-07-04 19:56
#83
Latvia fash 
Not necesarry he should speak to them during the game, but a look from a side can help them to improve their aproach to different situations during the games. I see them very much relying on their shooting skillz, and on some tactics but I see them lacking on positioning and giving away bombsites on to retake them later. And as for commentator becoming a coach, I saw comments that he was good at commentating to the french audience, so he could put on a table some good way out of those troubles.
2014-07-04 20:39
great article dude, as always.
2014-07-04 20:51
Well maybe ex6 wants to focus on his own preparation and hand the team preparations to their new coach.
2014-07-04 21:17
#90
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Greece her-1g 
ex6 could be the coach as he is good with flashes, smokes etc. i kinda see him as the black sheep in this team. He could do the same as a coach either way. titan needs more firepower. So personally i believe that if they could replace ex6 and smithzz with happy and shox it would be perfect as the rest of the players are super strong. but oh well they got that malefique guy! im not sure if they are going to pass groupstage in cologne. p.s the best coach ever was Jason Lake!!! this guy was amazing youtube.com/watch?v=OQyXBQ6jwZo and you can watch him here youtube.com/watch?v=XCN4HXZNU7M
2014-07-04 21:33
this needs to be set straight - some dude yelling behind your team =! a coach. not even remotely the same thing.
2014-07-04 23:14
#106
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Greece her-1g 
of course it is different but this is a type of coaching as well! pumps your blood
2014-07-05 00:20
"Coaching is a training or development process via which an individual is supported..." yelling hardly qualifies as training or development. not coaching, just speaking loudly.
2014-07-05 04:43
he thinks coaching = someone shouting behind you YEAAA COME ON GUYS that being said, titan did lose a lot of motivation after moving to a gaming house...they need to somehow regain that motivation and hunger in order to improve
2014-07-05 13:14
Can someone drop me the link of ex6tenz itw semmler was talking about ?
2014-07-04 21:40
+ shox, ex6tenz for coach could be a very powerful team. not sure if coaches are allowed on tournaments ?
2014-07-04 22:06
why do you think heaton is always standing behind NIP? of cause they are.
2014-07-05 05:57
I don't know why this is big news then . :)
2014-07-05 11:57
#93
African Union wtbx 
why would they appoint someone that never played to the level they play at? -kenny +shoxie if they can work out living situations.
2014-07-04 22:20
#94
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0 
Ex6 as a coach shox back in titan but live wherever he wants not in the gaming house and top 1 again
2014-07-04 22:34
#96
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Poland dijef 
I understand Titan been popular and so, but I think they don't handle pressure and such articles won't help them.
2014-07-04 22:56
Ex6TenZ to Coach +SHOX
2014-07-04 23:19
I think some people miss the point that Ex6tenz actually wants to play the game rather than be a coach. He might be more effective as a coach, but is there as much fun/fulfillment in that? The majority of you seem to be looking at it from a pure competitive / wanting to win perspective rather than how it is actually thought about.
2014-07-04 23:58
#103
Estonia rYm 
disband nothing is going to work! never top 1 or 2
2014-07-05 00:08
-Ex6TenZ +shox SmithZz IGL -SmithZz +shox Simple as that. They ofc don't need any coaches, they need shox. With shox they were able to beat NiP almost without any problems. Now they're struggling every match vs top teams.
2014-07-05 01:03
"They won before without coaching, why can't they do it again?" They gave up the third best player in the world for an extremely streaky AWPer they had only moderate success with in the past.
2014-07-05 01:03
i dont think gaming house will ever work. They only work in korea because sc2 is a solo game. You dont need to be friends with everyone, you can go 3 days without talking to someone if you have a fight.
2014-07-05 04:02
Guess what? Almost all of the top Chinese DOTA2 teams are already staying on gaming house and it did not affect their performance as Invictus Gaming just won't the 1st ever eSports event that help in a WORLD CUP SOCCER STADIUM. So I can say it is just depend on the people who'll stay on the house. Many LoL teams also got a gaming house but they still won't some events.
2014-07-05 06:46
"Many voiced concern over Droolans, according to Auguste "Semmler" Massonnat's translation of the Titan in-game leader's interview [...]" link to said interview?
2014-07-05 05:56
OMG lurppis, you just announce the HIDDEN PLAN of Titan. As they say, this is just a experimental move and you just exactly says that ex6 will retire soon and become a coach then they will bring up shox again. lol Although I'm against to those who says gaming house won't work.
2014-07-05 06:41
Is it really the house that should be blamed or the players ? why no one talks about NBK playing league of legends with his girlfriend for half of the day , and then playing subscriber games ? how the fuck does that help him ? why no one talks about scream playing battlefield 4 and not training csgo either? its getting hilarious, im not saying you cant have a girlfriend, but i dont think pasha plays JUST DANCE with his wife, or f0rest plays minecraft with his girlfriend. lol
2014-07-05 12:29
finally someone else sees the truth. It just looks like they care about everything else but not their own game.
2014-07-05 18:21
Because he's playing CS:GO for fun, like everybody should. He's not playing all day and wasting his time.
2014-07-10 23:50
coaching-->eat,pee,play a lot and maybe sleep
2014-07-05 13:04
this article is so bad i dont even know where to start have you look at other esport game? all the big team in league of legend have coach. Even Fnatic who won the last 3 split just hired a coach. i just guess you have never played anysport whatsoever
2014-07-05 17:51
Cut rara - destroy eSahara scenarios incoming...
2014-07-05 18:18
"Why else would they have allowed Richard "shox" Papillon to leave, instead of letting him stay at home more?" It was the most stupid decision of Titan's management... They will achieve nothing without shox, and shox will achieve as much as Titan without him... Their best lineup: Ex6TenZ/SmithZz - IGL kennyS - AWP NBK, shox, ScreaM - madfraggers Either Ex6TenZ or SmithZz should left the team.
2014-07-05 22:03
The lineup they had before was the best. I don't think kennys and shox would work that much, they would have to do the same thing they do now. Make kennyS the main man to get an opening. Or they could let kennyS just free roam with the awp but that isn't all that concistent.
2014-07-06 14:12
What Titan should have done, if it is an option, is make Droolans their coach, abandon the silly gaming house concept, and bring back Papillon, who is capable of making the mid-round calls that Droolans may not be allowed to. Agree, it would be the best choice, and the only question is - if they come to it after another huge fail at the major (Cologne), or Titan will kick them before making such a decision? I think the 2nd one is the most possible.
2014-07-05 22:08
Le Poireau Maléfique is considered as one of the best casters among the french audience because of its ability to detail the strategic outcome of a round "on the fly" That's maybe where ex6 is lacking a bit => the mid round calls Imo it could work out, I'm just doubting on whether he can fix or not their "mental" when they can't close games or when they get surprised during group stages...
2014-07-07 16:26
agreed
2014-07-07 23:32
ok lurppis, nice ideas... but why should they split the team again? everything they`ve been working on with kennys is bullshit then. Just wait some more, and we`ll see a good result from Titan. I think the only problem they`ve got is in their heads. when this barrier is gone they will go crazy again.
2014-07-08 13:40
everybody is talking about their amazing individual skills. fine, kennys is one of the best awpers in the world. what else do they have? yea on a good day scream will have a good kpr with 85% hs rate, but that doesnt make him anything. apart from fifflaren any of the nip players are easily better than any of the titan players if u dont count kenny since nip dont have a set awper. look at virtus pro, even they have players that outskill all the titan players with snax and pasza. titans individual skill is well within range of most of the top teams, but not at the top. not at all.
2014-07-08 16:36
Nice read.
2014-07-08 17:12
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