ESL One Cologne map pool revised

The Electronic Sports League (ESL) has announced that it has revamped the map pool for ESL One Cologne.

Last week, ESL's product manager, Alexander "crtmN" Nehr, had already revealed via Twitter that the organisation would update the map pool for ESL One Cologne, the organisation's upcoming $250,000 event that will take place under the wings of GamesCom from August 14th to 17th.

The ESL has now confirmed that it will be adopting the "active duty map" pool, a designation introduced by July 2nd's update, which means that de_cache, de_cobblestone and de_overpass have been added to the list.

On the other hand, de_train, the most vetoed map at EMS One Katowice and one inserted into the "Reserve Map list", is off the map pool for the event.

The following seven maps will be played at EMS One Cologne

  • de_nuke
  • de_dust2
  • de_inferno
  • de_mirage
  • de_cache
  • de_cobblestone
  • de_overpass

Meanwhile, the ESL has announced changes to the veto system. Every match, regardless of whether it is played in a best-of-one or best-of-three format, will be preceded by both teams vetoing until three maps are left.

The ESL will then use a random map generator to select, out of the three maps, the one that will be played, in case it is a best-of-one match, or the map that will be the decider, if it is a best-of-three contest.

"This randomized potential third map or even map to play gives teams new options and things to consider while banning maps," the ESL stated.

"With train, the most banned map, out of the way, new options arise here.

"Do you either ban those maps that your opponents are known to be good at or do you ban the new maps which could be a good or bad choice for both teams."

You can find the updated rulebook for ESL One Cologne by going here.

shit
2014-07-09 19:10
16 replies
i think its probably gonna be fun to watch some new maps. but removing train is nothing more than blasphemy and it should be punished with death sentence.
2014-07-09 20:03
15 replies
I highly doubt we will see overpass or cobblestone being played.
2014-07-09 20:20
6 replies
^
2014-07-09 20:29
They'll probably agree that both teams veto one of those maps at the start.
2014-07-09 20:55
Ofcourse we will. At least once or twice. Most teams won't play it though.
2014-07-09 22:05
1 reply
Dont count on it.
2014-07-09 22:09
I think some underdog teams will choose them to play against top teams. There are chances to bring an upset.
2014-07-10 14:59
ofc
2014-08-01 08:34
New? Cobblestone is not rly a map u can call new.
2014-07-09 20:44
4 replies
The point is this is the first time it's going to be played at a tournament.
2014-07-09 20:48
2 replies
It got played alot in the 1.6 days
2014-07-09 20:53
1 reply
Hmm hmm, didn't realise ESL One is a 1.6 tourney Kappa
2014-07-09 21:02
Some new maps in the map pool was what he meant obviuosly, don't be retarded
2014-07-10 03:06
i hate train, its unbalanced as shit, first team that plays ct get 10/11 rounds and then the second team in ct side has absolutely no margin for error, thats not fair. and thank god its not there i hate watching people playing with auto-sniper thats just not fun and requires no skill
2014-07-09 20:48
2 replies
thats not true
2014-07-09 21:47
So we should stop playing nuke too? lmao
2014-08-20 04:29
#2
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Poland marco555
n1 this map pool is a joke
2014-07-09 19:10
7 replies
And all the tards on reddit are praising valve for this. So fucking mad right now..
2014-07-09 20:13
6 replies
Replace Cobblestone with de_season and It's perfect LOL from reddit... they think overpass should be fine lel.
2014-07-09 20:40
5 replies
overpass is actually fine, the only problem is that no one knows the map and how to play it
2014-07-09 20:54
2 replies
because it's not played at tourneys because nobody knows it because nobody is learning it because it's not played at tourneys ...
2014-07-10 03:57
1 reply
That about sums it up.
2014-07-10 05:34
-overpass +toscan and it is perfect :/
2014-07-10 17:24
1 reply
yea toscan rocks!
2014-08-20 04:29
LOL
2014-07-09 19:10
shit
2014-07-09 19:10
2 replies
just like at the beginnings of cs:go, more like cs:random
2014-07-09 19:49
1 reply
+1, de_train was a map that all players liked to play back on 1.6 times, but on go they preffer cobblestone and overpass... shit randon csgo
2014-07-10 23:30
#6
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Germany lpSykl
They want more maps and remove Train?????? YOU FKING KIDDING ME?!
2014-07-09 19:10
18 replies
#justvalvethings
2014-07-09 19:13
1 reply
hehe
2014-07-09 20:41
train is shit, thats the main reason
2014-07-09 19:16
9 replies
that's the only reason .. it got vetoed almost every time
2014-07-09 19:21
3 replies
and that is because teams dont know how to play train. Like all the french teams
2014-07-09 20:55
2 replies
na man, they know but they fucked it up.. :S
2014-07-10 22:34
1 reply
Titan dont pracc it, neither does LDLC and i dont think Shoxilon does it either.
2014-07-11 12:54
lmao train > overpass, cbble and the rest operation shit for sure...
2014-07-09 19:23
3 replies
+1 even tho its shit
2014-07-09 19:32
+1
2014-07-09 19:41
+11111 HOW DO PEOPLE NOT GET THIS
2014-07-09 20:14
#381
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Germany lpSykl
no... The all smoked A gos by NiP were epic and there can be (and were) good matches on train. :|
2014-07-09 20:55
I think they are working on changing train up a bit. There was a screenshot in the update blog post that had a picture of the upper halls of train and they looked quite different. Hopefully this means that they have realized train is shit and are working to fix it up.
2014-07-09 19:21
5 replies
Can you link it? Couldn't find it anywhere
2014-07-09 19:43
3 replies
its on the wallbang update blog
2014-07-09 19:48
I can't link it because it is blocked at work :( It should be on the CS:GO blog page though.
2014-07-09 19:50
Found it. It was just plain text that had to be copied :/ cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/32969479064..
2014-07-09 20:06
i suspect there will be changes to most maps. like we've seen on inferno. yeah there was a bit of troll on inferno but i found that amusing and the map is better now.
2014-07-09 20:07
Come on ESL... This can't be true !
2014-07-09 19:11
1 reply
Its valve in this case, holding ESL ransom with the prize money.
2014-07-10 03:59
where are castle, overgrown, black gold, mist, rush and insertion?
2014-07-09 19:11
7 replies
At least overgrown could fit in a lan map pool. Maybe a bit too early.
2014-07-09 19:13
3 replies
I agree, with some tweaking it would work well.
2014-07-09 19:15
2 replies
I knew you were from HLTV! You are my most upvoted person on the globaloffensive subreddit. -emerican09
2014-07-09 19:22
1 reply
ok.
2014-07-09 20:00
really ? ok
2014-07-09 19:47
2 replies
trolling
2014-07-10 15:20
1 reply
dude i cant handle this kind of troll right now lol
2014-07-10 16:41
90% of the matches: 1st ban overpass/cobblestone 2nd ban: overpass/cobblestone. Seems to be worth for ESL atleast... Great event same maps anyway. Waste to add them.
2014-07-09 19:11
how can valve constantly fuck shit up?
2014-07-09 19:11
cs_assault when?
2014-07-09 19:11
1 reply
or vertigo :DD
2014-07-09 19:12
NBK is retiring
2014-07-09 19:12
1 reply
+1 true
2014-07-09 19:17
Suddenly it looks much better for iBP! Lmao, what a joke
2014-07-09 19:12
3 replies
Why would this benefit iBP
2014-07-09 19:26
2 replies
I was joking, because they're good on rarely-used maps
2014-07-09 19:33
I think he means the addition of cache? the American teams play cache and Season in ESEA don't they? edit: oh nvm
2014-07-09 19:34
lol cobblestone is as good as aim_map or stuff
2014-07-09 19:12
so, cobblestone and overpass over season and train? this is a joke
2014-07-09 19:12
2 replies
They are not official matchmaking maps atm, that's probably the only reason for that. I just hope those maps will not even be touched this tournament so valve realises that the maps are garbage.
2014-07-09 19:22
1 reply
i wonder if esl even said anything about it, these maps are so shit
2014-07-09 20:22
WP Valve
2014-07-09 19:12
what a joke :DDDD
2014-07-09 19:12
Lmfao Valve rofl. It's the community that pays for these tournaments, don't go dictating an awful map pool as well.
2014-07-09 19:12
bad
2014-07-09 19:12
overpass is a complete joke, pros won't play the new cbble and where the f is train? :D
2014-07-09 19:13
10 replies
Overpass is actually a decent map now.
2014-07-09 19:16
9 replies
not for a 250k tournament
2014-07-09 19:18
7 replies
This I can agree with, it is a real trial by fire but I guess this is Valves only alternative to get professionals to play it. I still believe it's a decent map at the current moment. Now given I have only played it in MM because of missions it might play otherwise at a higher level but we will see when people try.
2014-07-09 19:32
6 replies
I don't think it's the only alternative , they can try reach out to SLTV , esea for addition of the map to the season map pool then see if the pros like it or not
2014-07-09 19:46
5 replies
They probably could, but on SLTV it would never get played and on ESEA it would get very few matches so people wouldn't practice it at all. This way it forces people to learn it and practice it.
2014-07-09 19:47
4 replies
I am sure there's a way to make these 2 maps played in regular seasons in esea or sltv . If the teams risk not going to the lan finals , they will practice it . NO NEED to encourage the teams to practice these maps by adding them to one of the biggest tournaments of the year without warning .
2014-07-09 19:53
3 replies
SLTV picks map by banning every map until one remains. ESEA has set maps for a certain week, leaving one game up to chance won't cost people the lan finals.
2014-07-09 19:58
2 replies
2 games , 2 maps . no ? sometimes it can make a difference
2014-07-09 20:02
1 reply
Ah yes, I was thinking teams would actually accept overpass since it is actually playable now, not worse than train in it's current state at least. But two maps yes, still they would completely ignore one of them.
2014-07-09 20:03
for casuals
2014-07-09 19:26
hahaha, what the fuck?
2014-07-09 19:13
hahaha cobble and overpass, plsssss.....
2014-07-09 19:13
#28
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Vietnam piem0l
in the end we will prolly see allot more nuke and cache :) but i rly hope they give cbble and overpass a shot cuz it are actually rly enjoyable maps
2014-07-09 19:13
dafuq
2014-07-09 19:13
what the fuck, they (Valve) even changed veto rules to have more chance to see this two """active""" map
2014-07-09 19:14
R.I.P NBK
2014-07-09 19:14
1 reply
#41
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Russia lamp`
:D
2014-07-09 19:15
1st and 2nd maps to veto will be overpass and cbble. ALWAYS. It will be the same as if there weren't these maps in the pool.
2014-07-09 19:14
#36
hypn | 
Serbia hypn`
Cobblestone is shit it's way too big and it's very hard to spot enemies. Overpass is ok i guess
2014-07-09 19:14
3 replies
No, you're bad.
2014-07-09 19:29
1 reply
#165
hypn | 
Serbia hypn`
kk
2014-07-09 19:37
+1
2014-07-09 19:46
are you joking
2014-07-09 19:14
cobble and overpass ban every game.
2014-07-09 19:14
wonder how many times cobblestone and overpass will be played more than -1 less than 1
2014-07-09 19:15
2 replies
somewhere around 0
2014-07-09 19:18
-1∫1(times cbble and overpass are played)dx
2014-07-09 20:35
#40
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Denmark fyhn
cbble and overpass to be vetoed in every single game!
2014-07-09 19:15
wow this fucking sucks.
2014-07-09 19:15
I bet noone is going to play those maps :D (overpass and cbble)
2014-07-09 19:15
1 reply
random map generator says it all
2014-07-09 21:06
ESL guys are so fucking funny, overpass is the most retarted map I've seen and played, it's more one sided than NUKE or TRAIN (which was removed cause of this). Where is tuscan, season? RETARDS
2014-07-09 19:15
1 reply
Tuscan is not released yet, so basic common sense tells it can't be played.
2014-07-09 23:35
#45
lamp | 
Russia lamp`
bullshit lol
2014-07-09 19:15
Valve gives the $$, Valve gets to pick maps I guess XD
2014-07-09 19:15
3 replies
The only thing is, it's us that give the $$
2014-07-09 19:39
2 replies
Of course, but obviously SOMEONE thinks this is best for the competitive scene. What a joke.
2014-07-09 20:31
1 reply
This someone should just get fired
2014-07-09 23:15
OVERPASS! <333
2014-07-09 19:15
3 replies
shut up
2014-07-09 20:18
2 replies
u shut up
2014-07-10 04:50
umad?
2014-07-10 21:02
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2014-07-09 19:16
something new atleast, not the boring usual ones
2014-07-09 19:16
I like how the first time overpass and cobblestone are gonna be in tournament play is gonna be in a $250000 major tournament. Good job guys.
2014-07-09 19:16
cbble and overpass... wat
2014-07-09 19:16
thanks to Brute, could be Tuscan instead of overpass...
2014-07-09 19:16
#54
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Poland mki`
Valve needs to start listening to the community. These maps are plain bad.
2014-07-09 19:16
This sucks, goodbye CSGO.
2014-07-09 19:16
Everyone complains when it's only inferno, now it's impossible to only play inferno / dust2 yet everyone complains. Even if they ban cbble / overpass it wont be inferno all the time so why do people care?
2014-07-09 19:16
Fuck volvo they force pros to play their shitty maps #BOYCOTTVOLVO
2014-07-09 19:16
Probably the teams will take a gentleman agrement and they won't play this two maps.
2014-07-09 19:16
2 replies
+100
2014-07-09 19:17
Well they have like a month to practice these maps, maybe if they announced this like a few days before they would agree not play it.
2014-07-10 13:27
This has to be Valve's doing, and it's nothing short of a fucking disgrace. Promoting maps that are nowhere near the level that should be required for inclusion in a competitive tournament. When will they learn to let the competitive scene decide what is best for itself instead of making stupid decisions on behalf of a scene they clearly do not understand in the slightest? I for one simply cannot get excited about matches on cobblestone and overpass, and their inclusion will make this tournament much less enjoyable.
2014-07-09 19:17
2 replies
Watching pro players matchmake on overpass has been nothing but "I don't even know where I am, I don't even know where I'm being shot from, I don't even know where they CAN be, I don't even know how to get to the bomb site."
2014-07-09 19:37
1 reply
That can be applied to any new map, not just overpass.
2014-07-09 19:54
strong 5 map pool
2014-07-09 19:17
cbble is cancer
2014-07-09 19:17
YES! time to see more inferno then =D lelelele
2014-07-09 19:17
I hope it will get 100% veto so valve can finally realise how crappy their maps are.
2014-07-09 19:17
-overpass -cobblestone +train +season
2014-07-09 19:17
1 reply
#122
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Spain zevo
+1
2014-07-09 19:28
idiotic valve
2014-07-09 19:17
I thinks Overpass and Cobblestone are pretty much okay when Valve changes some things on the Maps.
2014-07-09 19:19
Train haters got what they deserve - cobblestone and overpass. I hope teams will boycott this event...
2014-07-09 19:19
ok
2014-07-09 19:19
really? /DISBAND
2014-07-09 19:19
tournament is in one month :D they add two maps that no one play (and everyone hate) and little time to prac :D very nice decision making :D
2014-07-09 19:20
2 replies
so 1month is not enough time to atleast pracc one of this maps? aha bye
2014-07-09 19:23
1 reply
very hard to find practice in these map because nobody plays them competetive. and yes 1 month is short time to master a map
2014-07-09 19:26
Why all the hate? Overpass and Cbble are pretty good maps.
2014-07-09 19:20
1 reply
People don't like new things. I personally don't think that Cbble is great, but Overpass is fine. Tbh, pro teams will never ever try them if they aren't in tournaments, so it's not a bad idea to throw them into a tourney and see what happens.
2014-07-10 05:41
HUGE opportunity, i hope some teams are gonna take advantage of it.
2014-07-09 19:21
NBK IS RETIRING :D
2014-07-09 19:21
goddamnit I hoped for some deathrun...
2014-07-09 19:22
Nice to see some new maps for a while :)
2014-07-09 19:22
cobblestone tafak this is joke...
2014-07-09 19:22
VP :( no train to let you take upto 250,000$ tourney winning place...
2014-07-09 19:22
de_cobblestone hahahahahahahah
2014-07-09 19:23
ahahaha idiots
2014-07-09 19:23
CSGO community hates ANY change. Not surprised Valve just do what they want. Hopefully people can start creating better maps for CSGO. Something that might one day rival d2, Inf, or Nuke.
2014-07-09 19:24
3 replies
IP ban pls
2014-07-09 19:25
I usually dont hate on Valve, but this.. cmon..
2014-07-09 19:28
We have GREAT maps tgat arent veing used in cologne, they couldve kept train and added cache and season
2014-07-09 20:32
wtf this world is shit Good Bye NBK 2008-2014 twitter.com/Titan_NBK/status/48471462990..
2014-07-09 19:24
The vetosystem is even more worse
2014-07-09 19:24
cobblestone/overpass at least can't be worse than season. Not one match played on that map so far has been worth watching.
2014-07-09 19:24
i really like the random generator of maps for bo3/bo1, can't really agree/disagree with maps as i haven't played overpass a single time and cobble only once
2014-07-09 19:24
So amusing watching how everyone thinks Train is a fucking horrible map, but when it's gone everyone bitches about why train isn't included.. Fucking idiotic.
2014-07-09 19:24
5 replies
Maybe not the same people? I like train, so yeah.
2014-07-09 19:28
3 replies
Of course not the same people, but seen loads of those comments.. Good to see the map pool expanding, hopefully they'll include Train later when it's been reworked. Don't see overpass and cbble working out in the long run.
2014-07-09 19:39
2 replies
Yeah, I know what you mean. I think they fked it up real bad with overpass and cbble actually. Not that I have played it a lot recently, but still..
2014-07-09 19:44
1 reply
I know they've been putting a lot of effort into making Overpass played, and I'd love to finally see a completly new map being played, not a revamped Source/1.6 map. Cbble I really don't know about either, they've cleaned it up, but yea we'll see of it pans out.
2014-07-09 19:47
train in it's current form is better than overpass or cobblestone. we only demanded changes to it , not to be thrown out of the map pool until valve tweaks it .
2014-07-09 19:49
What's the point of Cobblestone and Overpass? Won't be played even once.
2014-07-09 19:25
it pretty much fits to all this csgo stuff
2014-07-09 19:25
boooooooooooooooo
2014-07-09 19:25
#102
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Germany Bongskie
- de_nuke - de_dust2 - de_inferno - de_mirage - de_cache + operation breakout maps :)
2014-07-09 19:25
YES!!! GO VOLVO!!!
2014-07-09 19:25
hahaha valve really want overpass to go big
2014-07-09 19:25
#105
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Spain zevo
Cbble and overpass? R u kidding me ESL? l2p noob maps tards
2014-07-09 19:25
2 replies
Might help out the Spanish team then :p
2014-07-09 19:26
1 reply
rude
2014-07-09 20:34
Petition to remove cbble? Someone start one, please.
2014-07-09 19:26
You guys act like this affects you. Why are you complaining about map pool changes when the closest you'll ever come to ESL (or the competitive gaming scene) is watching a stream? This fucking community. Really.
2014-07-09 19:26
21 replies
It affects the whole scene, retard.
2014-07-09 19:27
Maybe people want to see good matches on competitive maps instead of random coinflip bullshit on shit public maps? Your fucking brain. Really.
2014-07-09 19:28
19 replies
Yeah. Keep playing good ol' dust2 forever. Fuck anything new. Why would new maps make the game LESS interesting?
2014-07-09 19:31
14 replies
Since when does random coinflip bullshit equal "new"? There are quite a few good maps they could choose from; like season,toscan or what the fuck even crown. But this is just utter shit and if you don't understand that then get the fuck out. Bro.
2014-07-09 19:34
6 replies
They add some variety to this game and people still complain. Most pro's complained that 1.6 was very repetitive in the end because there were never any new maps to play. I agree that tuscan and season should be in the map pool, but for fucks sake, give these new maps a chance. I am positive that a final on Overpass or Cobblestone will be much more fun to watch than on boring-ass Dust2.
2014-07-09 19:42
3 replies
Ok, I kinda agree we should give these maps more of a chance. But does this really need to happen at the biggest CS:GO event there is ? :/ And no, I don't think a final on Overpass or Cobblestone would be fun because teams have no clue yet how to play them properly
2014-07-09 19:48
2 replies
haha, i agree they should have given more time for preparation. at least some competition on these maps before introducing them to a major. but still its cool to see something new. and most people that break out in tears here probbly played these maps twice in a mm solo q. looks like u got some work to do.
2014-07-09 20:10
1 reply
i've played cobblestone atleast 10 times in soloq matchmaking and it ended well, unlike operation phoenix/breakout maps. Cobblestone and overpass are both a lot better than what people think, it's just that pros will have to change their playstyle and what they're used to on these maps.
2014-07-10 04:53
+1, please do everything you can to precent this potential disaster event.
2014-07-09 19:44
+1
2014-07-10 14:23
Why not add a random map generator to fetch the next match from the workshop. Because apparently it doesnt matter if a map is competetively viable.
2014-07-09 19:36
5 replies
It does, of course. Most maps from Matchmaking ARE competetively viable, so I don't really see the problem but people just complaining because it's easier that way.
2014-07-09 19:44
4 replies
no you are just a clueless noob.
2014-07-09 20:01
nope.
2014-07-09 20:07
No? Valve is forcing their shit maps, while best map makers out there can suck dicks ?
2014-07-09 22:51
-1
2014-07-10 15:48
pls uninstall windows
2014-07-09 20:21
#231
Pimp | 
Denmark Pimp
If we ever had to agree on anything, I think we easily can agree that this is close to the most stupid thing I have ever whitnessed in CS:GO so far.
2014-07-09 19:52
1 reply
Yeap indeed... With this a close second: dailymotion.com/video/x103ug3_chrisj-1vs.. haha <3 I guess there is close to no chance that VALVe will change their decision before the event, but hopefully they will after the maps don't or hardly get played in Cologne.
2014-07-09 19:59
Just got linked to this, sorry for being late. "Random coinflip bullshit" - Maybe if the teams put the time and effort into every map bar one or two the veto system would work for them either way, instead of every team crying when they can't dodge the 3 maps their bad at.
2014-08-17 20:35
1 reply
Except when we have reason to believe that some teams got a headstart on the new maps. Xyp9x said Titan knew earlier because the devs told them at Katowice (?), GTR tweeted about testing overpass changes months back and now has deleted that tweet.
2014-08-19 20:46
I can understand +cache -train overpass and cobblestone ????? its a joke
2014-07-09 19:26
de_cobblestone is ok, but not that de_overpass. Change de_overpass with train map.
2014-07-09 19:26
overpass such a crappy map OMG
2014-07-09 19:26
omfg. I usually don't complain on Valve but now they fked up.
2014-07-09 19:26
ohh god why do i even bother to check the csgo news #volvoretards
2014-07-09 19:27
To be completely fair, this new veto system could have been interesting with real mappool (something like train and season instead of cobble and overpass).
2014-07-09 19:27
DE COBBLESTONE (CS:GO) = COD
2014-07-09 19:27
WTF
2014-07-09 19:28
#125
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World ruyy
NBK retired allready
2014-07-09 19:29
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA IS THIS A JOKE? HAHAHAHAHA
2014-07-09 19:29
Where is train?
2014-07-09 19:29
nbk retiring ahahah
2014-07-09 19:29
lol
2014-07-09 19:29
I mean wtf, you can't be fucking serious?
2014-07-09 19:29
Teams are not going to want to play Overpass or Cobblestone at all. Dumb.
2014-07-09 19:29
this is so retarded...
2014-07-09 19:30
de_cobblestone de_overpass ggwp
2014-07-09 19:30
When BO1 match system is not random enough, introduce (half)random map choice....
2014-07-09 19:30
#138
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Spain zevo
Money>people....they just want add big and shit maps and people will buy new pcs, fuck money.
2014-07-09 19:31
1 reply
+1 you're the smartest person here to see the truth /ilerminaty
2014-07-09 20:33
cobble and overpass? FUCK OFF VALVE.
2014-07-09 19:31
#141
m0nt | 
Australia m0nt
cbble and overpass are both terrible
2014-07-09 19:31
-cobblestone +season
2014-07-09 19:32
We need some call of duty maps in the mix pls valve
2014-07-09 19:32
1 reply
Actually some fundaments of cod1 maps would be great in CS ) The exterior would need some modernisation that's all ^-^
2014-07-10 11:06
last two maps :D imao
2014-07-09 19:32
Just stupid
2014-07-09 19:32
Gosh... If you want to make map pool wider add something like cpl_mill etc. not fucking unplayable cobblestone/overpass.
2014-07-09 19:34
that's a fu**ing joke!!!!
2014-07-09 19:34
overpass most unbalanced map ever
2014-07-09 19:34
HAHAHHAHAH can't believe this! They remove one of the oldest map to + 2 shit maps.
2014-07-09 19:35
I spent my childhood on de_train how they can be so cruel? WHY?!?!
2014-07-09 19:35
1 reply
1.6 train was good unlike the new one
2014-07-09 19:46
wow, 2 maps that always will be banned + this retarded veto system + bo1 groupstage = most random tournament ever
2014-07-09 19:36
#161
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Spain zevo
I cant believe it, esl just joking...
2014-07-09 19:36
What a fucking joke this is. Yeah, lets put in a 250k Tournament 2 new maps, 1 month before it starts. Asking for zero feedback from the pro players. Maps which have never been tested or approved by the Pro teams. Brilliant idea ! RIP CS:GO.
2014-07-09 19:37
5 replies
#211
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CIS Laggy
+1
2014-07-09 19:47
+1
2014-07-09 19:52
+1
2014-07-09 20:03
+1
2014-07-09 20:34
-1 . . . +2
2014-07-10 13:44
this is just the most fucked up shitpile decision in cs go history.
2014-07-09 19:37
u decide to remove the least played map when people are tired of seeing inferno and u add 2 shit maps that no one will play, great stuff.
2014-07-09 19:37
1 reply
seems reasonable :D
2014-07-10 00:20
terrible. i'm glad we get totally inept devs for CSGO and then look at dota.
2014-07-09 19:38
shit
2014-07-09 19:38
cy@ NBK H@H@H
2014-07-09 19:39
hahahahahahaahahhahahah
2014-07-09 19:39
looooooooooooooooooooooool
2014-07-09 19:40
Im sry but is that a joke?!?! de_cobblestone de_overpass ...
2014-07-09 19:40
#176
Ax1Le | 
Portugal KSED
Valve should stop shoving their shitty maps down our throats!
2014-07-09 19:41
Overpass isn't that bad but I don't see pros playing it. If they want to add maps they should take maps that have been played in leagues or somewhere like that. Cobblestone is horrible map and it won't be played even once and probably op won't be played aswell.
2014-07-09 19:41
2 replies
It will be played since random map picking can put it on BO1 matches
2014-07-09 19:49
1 reply
no, teams veto until 3 maps left
2014-07-09 20:56
ESL go home, you are drunk
2014-07-09 19:41
honestly, pro players has to raise their voice here. this is not okay. both maps suck and they suck watching aswell. fuck this...
2014-07-09 19:41
valve scored!
2014-07-09 19:42
Thats just sad.
2014-07-09 19:42
#183
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Belarus ALBiNh0
this is madness
2014-07-09 19:42
2 replies
Madness? THIS. IS. VALVE!!!
2014-07-10 00:52
1 reply
*gaben kicks hltv user into bottomless pit*
2014-07-10 13:46
Its like those 2 maps are being played over inferno LOL
2014-07-09 19:42
I'm happy to see this happening.
2014-07-09 19:43
someone please wake me up
2014-07-09 19:43
This is just stupid, randomness is a bad thing in CS. The maps might be ok for MM but shouldnt be used at the highest level of play.
2014-07-09 19:43
i will add my coin here i dont think its valve decision behind this is csgo developers thx god i stopped play this game just look how they work for dota and how they work for csgo 1000000 for dota and everyone is happy what he get from compendium and u buying skins in csgo and u get fucking cobblestone and overpass i played both i know i like changes too but they should ask what PLAYERS like to play maybe add one map with pros accept ty btw <3 dota 2
2014-07-09 19:43
cbble pretty cool map imo overpass 4/10
2014-07-09 19:43
Overpass and cobble wont be played once. Any team that doesnt play mirage,cache or nuke will just get good on those maps. This is essentially a 5 map pool, they could have put fucking office in there it wouldnt matter.
2014-07-09 19:43
#195
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Austria db42
lol
2014-07-09 19:44
WHY NO TRAIN -.-
2014-07-09 19:44
Like why don't they just use cache, season and train? They don't probably play train very often but what does it matter.
2014-07-09 19:44
tuscan rip ?
2014-07-09 19:45
#200
Pimp | 
Denmark Pimp
This is beyond me... Beeing prepared on 6/7 maps is ridiculous, even if its a familiar mappool, since most teams actually have good and week maps (Yup its true!!) But forcing teams to be ready on 6/7, while at the same time forcing in to new maps, that NEVER have been tried out in a competitive way is so f*cked up, as anything can be. But atleast with got to know it in good advance, ohh wait i'm sorry, just a little more than 1 month to be fully prepared on _6/7_ maps unless you wanna randomise your tournament life! Way to go valve/ESL/anyone else? A free advice for the production, focus alot on the random draw, will propely be one of the most exciting that happens during that event! :)
2014-07-09 19:46
5 replies
seems like they care for pro scene :D just they go for casuals
2014-07-09 19:47
1 reply
Casuals bring most of the money so thats probably why.
2014-07-09 20:15
There are 7maps and every team has 2 veto so you basically need only prepare 5maps from these 5maps you should as a team allready have prepared the normal maps like d2, mirage, inferno so there are cache,overpass,nuke and cbble left veto cbble veto nuke so now you have only 2maps to learn comming from you i think you said that you are starting to play when the summer ends or something thats a bit bad for you in this case but im pretty sure the other teams allready prepared for dh and have strats on the most maps and only need to learn cbble, overpass and cache or maybe only 1-2 of them since veto please correct me if im wrong :)
2014-07-10 10:07
1 reply
yeah you are wrong, i think you dont know new veto system Best of Three: Ban A - Ban B - Pick A - Pick B - Randomized 3rd map out of the three remaining so a team can ban only one map before picking maps which means you have to prepare other 6 maps.
2014-07-10 11:24
Being fairly new to the CS scene I have to wonder have there ever been a group of pro's who communicate with Valve and they are contacted by the tournament organizers about this stuff? I mean there is a fair amount of money involved in these events and yet it seems every tournament is fucked up somehow. Or they just don't give a flying fuck about these things? :D I know NiP has helped Valve with some shit like weapons and stuff, but that's not what I mean.
2014-07-10 11:22
add insertion always please, to make this complete bullshit
2014-07-09 19:46
they could have just fucking went and fix train earlier. Instead they take it out of the pool and replace with some molded hobo shit. I still think train is a good map only problem being it being heavily CT sided, but no map should be 50/50. This, this is just a complete joke....
2014-07-09 19:46
1 reply
Train has become much more neutral than it was. Teams might be even better on T side nowadays. At least some of the matches I've seen. Cant understand why they replaced it with shit like Overpass o______________O
2014-07-10 11:24
GOOD JOKE
2014-07-09 19:46
de_overpass............
2014-07-09 19:47
bo1: inferno bo3: inferno, mirage, dd2 GOD, WHY?
2014-07-09 19:47
german teams will have a chance now:d
2014-07-09 19:48
2 replies
How come?
2014-07-10 15:30
1 reply
random factor
2014-07-10 21:13
joke. esl. valve.
2014-07-09 19:48
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2014-07-09 19:48
#219
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Norway billson
cobblestone??? Seriously? Add season then...
2014-07-09 19:49
If few big teams boycott that (I think Virtus.pro and NiP will be enought) they will be forced to change it. PLEASE NIP AND VIRTUS AND WHATEVER ELSE BOYCOTT THIS!
2014-07-09 19:49
This is going to be the most random event on earth ! BO1 were already kinda random but now teams don't even chose what they want to play ! Good job ! Really nice
2014-07-09 19:49
2 bans: -cbble -overpass CY@
2014-07-09 19:50
there is smth wrong with their heads
2014-07-09 19:51
comon guys.. overpass is 2 much shitty..
2014-07-09 19:51
oh god
2014-07-09 19:52
Valve put on a $250,000 tourney and people complain. One of these days they will just give up.
2014-07-09 19:52
5 replies
Valve?? This is our money from eSport keys...
2014-07-09 19:54
4 replies
Would you prefer it they just delete esports box and just leave the regular one? Then they would have no obligation to host 250k tourney anymore.
2014-07-09 19:56
You paid that money to Valve, it's not your money anymore.
2014-07-09 20:20
You pay for keys to get skins, not fund a tournament.
2014-07-09 20:32
1 reply
Maybe you... I tend to buy esport keys know actual purpose to help fund tournaments.
2014-07-10 07:42
I find this interesting.
2014-07-09 19:53
It would be funny if those maps are actually played. Cant wait rofl.
2014-07-09 19:54
Most played maps will be: mirage, cache, dust2 :D cuz people start veto Cobblestone, Overpass, Nuke, Inferno ;)
2014-07-09 19:55
Im all up for new maps but... Overpass! WOW
2014-07-09 19:55
#242
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Latvia Senotajs
Two shitty maps.
2014-07-09 19:55
what a shit.
2014-07-09 19:56
valve is busy for dota2
2014-07-09 19:57
Kidding me?
2014-07-09 19:57
Well at least we'll see less games on Inferno?
2014-07-09 19:58
This what happens when you retard troll on HLTV, valve goes to reddit and look at whats posted there. "WOOWWW KEWLLL I GOT 2KILLS ON OVERPASS" valvedev: lets add overpass gabe: will there be chickens? ADD CHICKENS GODDAMIT!
2014-07-09 19:58
#250
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Germany fjdeN
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2014-07-09 19:59
#253
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Sweden djyay
Aztec + Season > cobble + overpass Just one question. Wtf ESL?
2014-07-09 20:00
#254
i am | 
Yugoslavia bleaq
So just because other shitty teams rather than VP/NiP don't play train it get's removed. Awesome. ex6 already praccing cobblestone on public servers 10v10
2014-07-09 20:00
ninja defuse on cobblestone inc
2014-07-09 20:00
2 replies
Too bad SpawN isn't playing :p
2014-07-09 20:01
1 reply
haha :D
2014-07-09 20:06
Next map fy_pool_day
2014-07-09 20:01
Joke of the century, not surprisingly from ESL.
2014-07-09 20:01
this is gonna be the best tournament EVER inb4 cache, overpass, and cobblestone grand finals
2014-07-09 20:01
#264
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Turkey serci61
.
2014-07-09 20:04
#265
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Turkey serci61
ka_xtreme_jumping2 pls
2014-07-09 20:03
Sweet delicious tears.
2014-07-09 20:03
-de_cobblestone -de_overpass +de_season +de_train
2014-07-09 20:04
#1stWorldProblems
2014-07-09 20:05
Why you haff be mad? Its only game
2014-07-09 20:06
Cobble I like, if lower teams played more on these maps then they might have a chance against better opponents who dont play it at all, so I kind of like that, the problem is these lower teams do not practice it either
2014-07-09 20:06
Valve logic - hey guise lets add random shity pub maps in 250k tournament rather than try to fix de_train before ESL one...
2014-07-09 20:06
#280
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Denmark kaspeRztw
Fine If people dont like them then remove them in the veto Gl hf gonna be fun to watch
2014-07-09 20:06
bad choice of maps tbh cobblestone isn't all that horrible but overpass i mean dayum.....would rather see season and keep train in there then these 2 maps...
2014-07-09 20:09
omg
2014-07-09 20:10
why dont you fucking idiots add de_rats to the competetive map pool while you're at it.
2014-07-09 20:13
#297
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Germany fjdeN
Kappa
2014-07-09 20:14
So we buy their fucking skins so they can give money to eSports and we get this in return....
2014-07-09 20:15
2 replies
Don't pretend you buy the skins to support the scene, you buy the skins because you want them.
2014-07-09 20:34
1 reply
I personally do indeed hardly buy any keys. But e.g. Tweeday buys and makes people buy thousands of keys. I still buy some keys here and there, skins on the market and a copy of CS:GO togheter with many others. Everyone has a different opinion on things but 99% of the people can agree on that the game is bad and that this decision is retarded.
2014-07-09 20:39
This is a joke. Pro teams should agree on not playing those maps, like some did back when the AUG/TEC-9 were OP. Like veto it in all the matches or smth. How fucking stupid is this LOL
2014-07-09 20:18
volvo pls
2014-07-09 20:18
tuscan ? train ?
2014-07-09 20:19
what happened to mirage_ce oh wait
2014-07-09 20:19
Cobblestone & Overpass... April fools joke?
2014-07-09 20:20
de_cobblestone de_overpass Volvo is kidding us or what? srsly??? It will be the shittest tournament ever with this 2 maps pls valve stop to ruin every fucking thing just for your shitty marketing
2014-07-09 20:20
#313
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Argentina atriX^
Retardation to a whole new level.
2014-07-09 20:21
NBK TO RETIREMENT OR HES NOT A MAN
2014-07-09 20:21
cbbl inc :)
2014-07-09 20:22
train ? wtf.
2014-07-09 20:22
pls surf_egypt
2014-07-09 20:22
:DDD valve and esl biggest trolls ever. how retards can they be huh
2014-07-09 20:22
cobble and overpass replace train...kKkKkkKkkkKk gg volvo
2014-07-09 20:24
valve 7 - 1 pro players KappaDiscooooooooo
2014-07-09 20:24
Is it possible to get opinions on the change from qualified teams/pro teams and put it together in a news? :)
2014-07-09 20:27
1 reply
^
2014-07-09 21:31
cbble RuleZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
2014-07-09 20:27
OVERPASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
2014-07-09 20:27
Shit valve... shit cbble... shit brazil support. Valves suck!
2014-07-09 20:29
1 reply
jajajaja
2014-07-10 13:28
gG valve. I hope all teams veto overpass cobblestone always as firstpicks
2014-07-09 20:32
1 reply
Like some one else wrote, that the teams have a gentlemans agreement on banning both maps every time.
2014-07-09 20:40
de_overpass , wtf valve map is shit , a plent on ct spon wtf
2014-07-09 20:32
well cbble is old 1.6 map, but overpass???
2014-07-09 20:35
LOL insta ban cbble/overpass by any team
2014-07-09 20:36
#BrazilHatesValve.
2014-07-09 20:36
its must be joke
2014-07-09 20:37
well if esl/valve insists on this, players must make a gentleman's agreement
2014-07-09 20:38
oMG....
2014-07-09 20:39
for underdog teams in bo3 this could give them a edge, would be fun to see cbble/overpass..
2014-07-09 20:40
mousesports to win this 7-1
2014-07-09 20:40
Over*what*?! Jesus christ. Bullshit.
2014-07-09 20:43
#368
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Finland coswell
"This randomized potential third map.." Yea, important matches might get decided on a random, stupid and utterly ridiculous map (e.g. Overpass).
2014-07-09 20:47
oh so we'll see the same 5 maps for the entire tournament. nice .-.
2014-07-09 20:47
Cant wait till we have bug tourneys with hostie maps too... yea right.
2014-07-09 20:52
#375
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Poland Mannix
Team A ban Cobble,Team B ban Overpass,Team A pick Dust 2,Team B pick Inferno, third map random between Mirage, Cache and Nuke GG :D
2014-07-09 20:53
#377
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Russia monte:)
GIVE ME A KNIFE AND I WILL CREATE NEW TUSCAN for cs go instead of this shit
2014-07-09 20:54
volvo go home youre drunk
2014-07-09 20:55
Haha this will be interesting how the teams prepare. It's probably worth the investment to learn at least one of the new maps so you can NOT ban it in BO3 stage, and force the other team to burn two bans.
2014-07-09 20:56
maps in final - 1. cbble 2. overpass 3.cbble <3 dream final
2014-07-09 20:56
1 reply
probably will be the most exciting final in csgo history.
2014-07-10 04:59
#386
NAF | 
Czech Republic GzzM
well if it was 1.6 version of cbble it wouldn't been that bad...
2014-07-09 20:58
Fking bullshit , Where is train ??
2014-07-09 21:01
There are awesome competitive maps on workshop. Why can't Valve add them to official mapcycle? de_toscan for example
2014-07-09 21:02
definitely a fan of new maps being introduced but.. yea, interesting : D
2014-07-09 21:02
Remove last two. Get train and tuscan(when it will be launched) in.
2014-07-09 21:04
ESL what are you doing...
2014-07-09 21:04
expected
2014-07-09 21:04
#396
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Nigeria disesion
-de_cobblestone +de_train
2014-07-09 21:05
fuck ESL
2014-07-09 21:06
Not sure about overpass and cobble, but the fact that we might actually see some maps played other than dust, inferno and mirage excites me. Sometimes a community needs forcing into change.
2014-07-09 21:07
Definitely quite surprised by this. I'm all for new maps but when it's at such short notice I don't think it makes sense.
2014-07-09 21:07
cbble and overpass... you delete train for this?
2014-07-09 21:12
Ill be surprised if we see a cobble game. map is incredibly biased. Realistically I can only see it getting through because neither team wants to be that team to use one of their two vetos on it. Overpass will probably get through a bit. Though I still dont think its that good for competitive play, it has its benefits in being a pretty straight forward map to play / learn and relatively friendly to both T and CT sides. These two new maps help teams such as Hellraisers, NiP and other more individual skill based teams while hurting more tactical teams like Titan due to the short notice in being able to practice them properly. (Effectively giving these teams the opportunity to remove the other teams two best maps).
2014-07-09 21:27
2 replies
I don't think cbble is that biased compared to maps like nuke.
2014-07-10 13:30
1 reply
Only feels that way in MM. Let the pros figure it out and see just how biased CT side still is. You can afford to have one A at the start and 4 B.
2014-07-10 13:47
n1 =D -d2 +castle
2014-07-09 21:32
-cobblestone -overpass +Season +Train 0 Games Cobble or Overpass at ESL one i bet 500€
2014-07-09 21:51
2 replies
I think all the teams have to agree not to play on these maps
2014-07-09 21:51
3games on train w0w rather play overpass than train
2014-07-10 09:58
JAJAJAJAJAJJAJA
2014-07-09 21:55
niiiiiiiiiceeee to see some new mapssss not only inferno, inferno, inferno, inferno......inferno. allways when i watch some match is inferno.
2014-07-09 21:57
LMFAO de_cobblestone de_overpass
2014-07-09 22:06
#415
arch | 
Ukraine arch
valve idiots we dont need shit maps like cobble or overpass..
2014-07-09 22:07
"do you ban the new maps which could be a good or bad choice for both teams." Lets give 250k to not the best team in the world but the one that randomly wins a coin-toss on a non-competitive map. You don't do this for the biggest tournaments of the year. You test it on a smaller tournament first. If a map is good, you won't have to force them to play it.
2014-07-09 22:14
Make an agreement between teams to not to play these maps. Watch CSGO teams faces when that happens.
2014-07-09 22:15
IS THIS A JOKE?
2014-07-09 22:31
cs_militia ? cs_italy ?
2014-07-09 22:32
gg
2014-07-09 22:35
if you wanna facepalm read the thread on reddit
2014-07-09 22:44
1 reply
drop link plz §
2014-07-09 22:56
bullshit
2014-07-09 22:54
omg fucking shit valve
2014-07-09 23:04
nice to see some new maps appearing on such a tournament =]
2014-07-09 23:27
no tuscan no season ... shit de_cobblestone de_overpass
2014-07-09 23:28
will at least be interesting to watch..
2014-07-09 23:35
Why they don't just add de_favela and aim_lego?
2014-07-09 23:48
cbbl,overpass LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL,
2014-07-09 23:52
What an embarrassing decision by valve to force shit maps on our community rather than revising ones we actually want to use (train) Also brute, fuck you finish the damn map.
2014-07-09 23:59
3 replies
agreed, it's pathetic really and I see no reason why.
2014-07-10 01:24
who wants to use train? it gets played maybe 3times wow
2014-07-10 09:59
1 reply
You can't read.
2014-07-10 10:32
wow this is a joke
2014-07-10 01:01
+ de_areyoufuckingkiddingme
2014-07-10 01:24
#444
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India h8or
Volvo, are you fuckin kidding me? You are killing the pro scene u bunch of retards!!!! fuck you.
2014-07-10 01:24
so navi is finally going to start practicing nuke.
2014-07-10 01:25
when cplmill came out, nerds raged. when season came out, nerds raged. when cpl fire came out, nerds raged. when tuscan came out, nerds raged. when cache came out, nerds raged. every fucking time there is a new map nerds get mad. why the fuck ppl cant evolve and accept changes, because in 1 or 2 years if they keep these 2 maps in the rotation and they remove 1, ppl will start raging "why the fuck they are removing the map" BUT you know what? thats the difference between all the keyboard warriors and shitty teams like mouz because 1 of their player has time to comment here instead of learning and practicing and the real pros like NiP, Titan, fnatic, and so on who are already thinking about strats. cant wait to watch ESL Cologne i dont care if all the teams veto these 2 maps. GL to the "real" teams who can perform on LAN
2014-07-10 01:52
1 reply
+1
2014-07-10 04:33
what overpass??
2014-07-10 02:13
I think it's a good thing honestly. Yes, Overpass and Cobblestone are not ready for a competition, and certainly not for a major, but it doesn't really matter. If pros like either one of these, even one bit, they'll prepare for it in order to surprise other teams if it happened to be played. Having even basic preparation for a map can also be used as a tactic to influence the veto, which can mess up how your opponents guess your picks, especially if they didn't prepare at all for these maps. If no one picks any of these during the tournament, then Valve will see that (as they saw it for de_train), and remove these from the map pool for the next majors, allowing other maps in, like for example de_season. Either way, the majors will improve in my opinion. I'm so tired of seeing always the same maps that I welcome this map pool with open arms. We'll see what comes of it.
2014-07-10 02:14
I really wish they would go with what blizzard did and listen to the community. No one wants to play these shitty maps they create. They simply do not have the ability to make maps better then the community. Starcraft 2 did have a phase during the start of comp play where they only played blizzard maps, but soon it was clear almost all of them where shit and the community made maps. Now almost no blizzard maps are used and the community decides the maps. Matchmaking also follows this formula changing maps similar to the operations, but they are free and are actually useful for training.
2014-07-10 02:23
"I wish they added vertigo too. This shitstorm is too funny to read. Screw what's competitive and what's not. Just win more rounds than the other team and you win money. It's simple ffs lazy pro players." Fuck yeah reddit!
2014-07-10 02:28
Its embarrassing that valve are so out of touch with things that are obvious to almost everyone playing the game.. like a middle aged derek skier on his winter holiday hanging with the local snowboarders. Maybe employe someone who has some previous experience playing at the top level and consult them on EVERY poor decision you make. :/
2014-07-10 02:34
Some strings were pulled here.
2014-07-10 02:39
this is a joke for me
2014-07-10 02:40
Interesting. Playing new maps is not a bad thing. Adding them one month before the tournament is. Adding maps that haven't gotten the best feedback is. There are several good maps to pick from in order to create a 7 map-pool. 1. dust2 2. inferno 3. nuke 4. train 5. cache 6. season 7. toscan/tuscan 8. mirage_ce This would be the obvious choices. What is wrong with those maps? Why the need to add worse maps instead? We as the community gave Valve the power to dictate the competitive scene and i'm a bit confused as why people act as if this was something new. We've seen what happened with the first 250k tournament already. The whole competitive scene was happy with mirage_ce .... Valve forced people to play their mirage. Did people think this behaviour wouldn't return? Now we go this and the real shame is that not even the ESL or any other organizer is defending the competitive scene, since they won't get the 250k from Valve (the community) then. If Valve wants to add more official maps .... they should maybe start creating GOOD COMPETITIVE maps then. Another thing: why the need for new maps at all? They are new for a few weeks then you get used to them like any other map. What then? Add new maps again? People always behave like bringing in new maps would change the whole world. Yes, it will be INTERESTING to watch a new map for maybe 1-4 times. Then you get used to it like any other map. That's it. I'd rather have a solid base of 7 good maps that get improved from time to time. The last tournaments where indeed boring to watch simply because of the VETO system and the 24/7 inferno games. Well, let's see where all this is going. Regards
2014-07-10 02:58
1 reply
this <3
2014-07-10 11:31
RIP de_train
2014-07-10 03:11
-train +cbble +overpass But fuck toscan and season because they aren't in our official casual mode for retards hurrrrrr. Valve you're fucking hilarious
2014-07-10 04:26
When they made cobblestone to cs:go, they said they thought it was to big and "not competetive" in the recent games. They have now changed this by making the map a fuc**ng country. This map is the least competetive you can find. Overpass is just so high on the "WTF" factor. Valve is ofc thinking "hey we made a great comp map, but nobody is using it", let's give pricemoney and add this shitty map so people will see how great it is. Overpass REALLY? Why not "copy" de_train_ve?! Valve making a move in the wrong direction again. Can they start listening more to the community and not be so ignorant.
2014-07-10 04:36
i see alot of inf matches coming our away again
2014-07-10 06:04
-dust2 -inferno -mirage -nuke -cache +overgrown +mist +crown +militia +aztec we will have best tournament :D
2014-07-10 06:31
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Czech Republic THE_WILLY
The worst thing is the "random" map selection
2014-07-10 07:13
MAKE DE_FORGE !!!!!!!!!!!!! this map is better version of cbble(PLAYABLE). It was played on e-Stars Seoul, ESL and I think DH(but I'm not sure). This map was really good.
2014-07-10 07:57
You could have added some respectable maps. Why OVERPASS? Cobblestone is just too HUGE. And overpass is just for casual playing :3 BRING BACK TRAIN. TRAIN.CACHE.SEASON.
2014-07-10 11:46
The biggest fail is train from valve side,its came out with the other orignal maps,and now look where it is,they basically throw it into thrash,instead of fixing it or make some chancges they just left it out and forcing those shits like overpass,guess what is not skin related,they not intrested
2014-07-10 13:42
train in nuke out > cs sided stupid map. u just need to get the knife and begin cs
2014-07-10 13:58
VP vs NiP @GrandFinal @ESLONECOLOGNE @1-map @De_cbble
2014-07-10 14:06
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@2-map @de_overpass
2014-07-10 14:27
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@10k viewers typing !drop in chat
2014-07-10 21:14
Can you gimme luppris's twitter acc please?
2014-07-10 14:24
Give overpass chance please, i bet most of us only played it barely 3 times, so give it a chance. It might turn out to be good and IMHO it is a map that only needs acceptance. I remember hating train the momment i first played it, so it is natural to hate on overpass if u haven't played it a lot yet. However i did come to like train and its sad to see a good map leaving. Valve, i think its best to test out ur maps one at a time please. Add back train and -cbble cuz its more like its designed for 10v10
2014-07-10 14:43
The truth is that Valve just don't give a fuck about CS:GO as they make millions with Dota 2. In 4 years CS:GO will also get free to play as there will be less new players when game is getting old. That's what happened to TF2.
2014-07-10 15:33
we wont see any of these 2 maps during the tournament, I dont see the point of adding them
2014-07-10 16:07
competitive mode have a lot of maps to be played, why valve do this then? remember this maps... de_tuscan de_forge de_russka de_cpl_fire de_contra de_losttemple_pro de_villa de_crown de_cache de_season
2014-07-10 16:08
really cbble? and operation overshit?
2014-07-10 16:13
Cbble <3
2014-07-10 17:16
Fix Train, integrate Season, complete Tuscan pls
2014-07-10 19:38
shame about train, my fav map in 1.6 and go
2014-07-10 23:22
good
2014-07-11 13:41
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