sgares: "Cobblestone isn't ready"

Sean "sgares" Gares gave us exhausting answers on their overtime win against Titan, the fact the new maps were played three times and expectations for their match versus dignitas tomorrow.

Cloud9 were up against Titan in the inital round of group D in the first and only even match so far, which went into two overtimes. They came out victorious in the end, take a look at what Sean "seang@res" Gares thought about the match and the new maps being played:

You just escaped Titan by the skin of your teeth, can you walk us through the match, how did it go?
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "We started off winning pistol and then we knew the antieco strat because they ran the same setups and everything against iBUYPOWER at G3 in London like two weeks ago. I've been showing the team the demos the whole bootcamp so we knew what they were gonna do. We knew they were gonna rush three long, two cat, that's why I kept on saying in-game that we're gonna play flex, give up long and play in between to use that range against the CZs, Jordan's in-ear fell out of his, so he was hiding in the site and a guy killed him.From there, honestly it was only like mid-B split, mid-B split, mid-B split, they kept pounding our mid B. It was getting kinda frustrating cos NBK was flanking us on cat. It was a really strong mid B they kept running and we couldn't stop it. But going into OT, when we played them again, we had to make some adjustments, which we did obviously.To talk about the second half, I guess I called the pistol round and it was a complete anti-strat of their gfinity, cos they were four A and ScreaM B, and said: We're gonna spot mid and if we see one cross, we're just gonna walk out mid and flank ScreaM B, and we did. From there we just kinda snowballed, we won all the important rounds to break their money. Even when they won a round, they won it with only one guy left and then we'd win the next round - a huge 2v5 B hold on a post-plant. It's like that all games we played against them, really down to the wire and whoever's lucky comes out on top, and today we were lucky."
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "We started off winning pistol and then we knew the antieco strat because they ran the same setups and everything against iBUYPOWER at G3 in London like two weeks ago. I've been showing the team the demos the whole bootcamp so we knew what they were gonna do. We knew they were gonna rush three long, two cat, that's why I kept on saying in-game that we're gonna play flex, give up long and play in between to use that range against the CZs, Jordan's in-ear fell out of his, so he was hiding in the site and a guy killed him.
From there, honestly it was only like mid B split, mid B split, mid B split, they kept pounding our mid B. It was getting kinda frustrating, cos NBK was flanking us on cat. It was a really strong mid B they kept running and we couldn't stop it. But going into OT, when we played them again, we had to make some adjustments obviously, which we did.
To talk about the second half, I guess I called the pistol round and it was a complete anti-strat of their gfinity, cos they were four A and ScreaM B, and said: We're gonna spot mid and if we see one cross, we're just gonna walk out mid and flank ScreaM B, and we did. From there we just kinda snowballed, we won all the important rounds to break their money. Even when they won a round, they won it with only one guy left and then we'd win the next round - a huge 2v5 B hold on a post-plant. It's like that all games we played against them, really down to the wire and whoever's lucky comes out on top, and today we were lucky."
As you could see, we've already had some of the new maps, we had twice cobble and one overpass. What do you think about that? Did you expect to have those matches in the group stage? 
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "Yes, I did actually, we've been playing in Europe for a while now and I know fnatic has been playing those maps a lot, LDLC has been playing those maps a lot, iBUYPOWER has been looking for scrims on them so I know teams are playing them. I don't know if they like them, but they know that if they're good on them, they control the vetos and if they control the vetos they have a high likelyhood to win the tournament. A lot like how fnatic did in DreamHack and Virtus.pro did in Poland, with being good on mirage and train. Obviously teams know if they're good on those maps and they're gonna be very highly likely to win the tournament, so I'm not surprised at all to see them being played."
After playing them for a month or so, do you think they're viable for competitive play? Have you noticed any bugs, anything you think should be changed, tweaked?
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "Cobble I don't think is ready for competitive play, it's just too big. I find when the Ts finally clear the A halls and take control of mid, there's often so little round time left, they're stuck going A at that point. It's such a big map that it hurts the Ts ability to swing between the sites, which is part of the reason why on the classics inferno, dust2, nuke, train before and mirage, you can swing between the sites and middle really well, and cobble doesn't allow that. Overpass is a really quarky map, we haven't played it that much, it's really close corridors so our riflers stand out. I think overpass could use a little work, but it's viable for competitive play."
Next up for you is dignitas, what do you expect from them, do you think you will play one of the new maps?
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "I don't know, actually, I don't think they've been playing the new maps from the interviews and things like that. So I don't expect to play them on a new map, however who knows how things are gonna pan out in the veto. I don't know what they're gonna do, if they have any tricks up their sleeve. I know they're a really strong group of aimers, so if I were to guess they'd eliminate cobble and try to play overpass against us if it came down to that, however I foresee it will probably be played on a normal map."
The last match of today is Vox Eminor up against Titan, after that the play will resume tomorrow with the initial match victors playing against each other and the lower bracket finals.

You just escaped Titan by the skin of your teeth, can you walk us through the match, how did it go?

United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "We started off winning pistol and then we knew the anti-eco strat, because they ran the same setups and everything against iBUYPOWER at G3 in London like two weeks ago. I've been showing the team the demos the whole bootcamp, so we knew what they were gonna do. We knew they were gonna rush three long, two cat, that's why I kept on saying in-game that we're gonna play flex, give up long and play in between to use that range against the CZs, but Jordan's in-ear fell out of his ear, so he was hiding in the site and a guy killed him.

From there, honestly it was only like mid-B split, mid-B split, mid-B split, they kept pounding our mid B. It was getting kinda frustrating, cos NBK was flanking us on cat. It was a really strong mid B they kept running and we couldn't stop it. But going into OT, when we played them again, we had to make some adjustments obviously, which we did.

To talk about the second half, I guess I called the pistol round and it was a complete anti-strat of their Gfinity, cos they were four A and ScreaM B, and I said: "We're gonna spot mid and if we see only one cross, we're just gonna walk out mid and flank ScreaM B," and we did. From there we just kinda snowballed, we won all the important rounds to break their money. Even when they won a round, they won it with only one guy left and then we'd win the next round. And then the huge 2v5 B hold on a post-plant. It's like that all games we played against them, really down to the wire and whoever is lucky comes out on top, and today we were lucky."

As you could see, we've already had some of the new maps, we had twice cobblestone and once overpass. What do you think about that? Did you expect to have those matches in the group stage? 

United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "Yes, I did, actually, we've been playing in Europe for a while now and I know fnatic has been playing those maps a lot, LDLC has been playing those maps a lot, iBUYPOWER has been looking for scrims on them, so I know teams are playing them. I don't know if they like them, but they know that if they're good on them, they control the vetos and if they control the vetos, they have a high likelihood to win the tournament. A lot like how fnatic did in DreamHack and Virtus.pro did in Poland, with being good on mirage and train. Obviously teams know if they're good on those maps and they're gonna be very highly likely to win the tournament, so I'm not surprised at all to see them being played."

After playing them for a month or so, do you think they're viable for competitive play? Have you noticed any bugs, anything you think should be changed, tweaked?

United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "Cobble I don't think is ready for competitive play, it's just too big. I find when the Ts finally clear the A halls and take control of mid, there's often so little round time left, they're stuck going A at that point. It's such a big map that it hurts the Ts ability to swing between the sites, which is part of the reason why on the classics like inferno, dust2, nuke, train before and mirage, you can swing between the sites and middle really well, and cobble doesn't allow that. Overpass is a really quarky map, we haven't played it that much, it's really close corridors so our riflers stand out. I think overpass could use a little work, but it's viable for competitive play."

Next up for you is dignitas, what do you expect from them, do you think you will play one of the new maps?

United States Sean "seang@res" Gares: "I don't know, actually, I don't think they've been playing the new maps from the interviews and things like that. So I don't expect to play them on a new map, however who knows how things are gonna pan out in the veto. I don't know what they're gonna do, if they have any tricks up their sleeve. I know they're a really strong group of aimers, so if I were to guess they'd eliminate cobble and try to play overpass against us if it came down to that, however I foresee it will probably be played on a normal map."

The last match of today is Vox Eminor up against Titan, after that the play will resume tomorrow with the initial match victors playing against each other and the lower bracket finals.

United States Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Age:
31
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
713
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
#3
Sweden pyth 
+1
2014-08-14 20:43
+2
2014-08-14 20:45
=3
2014-08-14 20:46
+3
2014-08-14 20:46
= 6
2014-08-14 20:58
*2
2014-08-14 21:59
=12
2014-08-15 08:11
#23
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Latvia Senotajs 
+4
2014-08-14 20:57
Team up with joelz.
2014-08-14 21:24
-1
2014-08-14 21:25
Keep calm and mid-b split
2014-08-14 20:45
I agree, cobblestone is a long time to get used to.
2014-08-14 20:46
The vent is kinda strange and the place where CTs boost on B makes no sense to me atleast...
2014-08-14 20:46
yez
2014-08-14 20:46
-Cobble -Overpass +Season +Tuscan
2014-08-14 20:46
#19
Spain Jaii 
+1
2014-08-14 20:52
Valve waiting for FMPONE's new Season, heard it here first.
2014-08-14 20:58
Brute will never finish tuscan and valve won't add toscan due copyright issues
2014-08-14 21:00
#30
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
+
2014-08-14 21:00
+2
2014-08-14 21:01
-Cbble +Season enough
2014-08-14 23:51
#13
Happy | 
Brazil Kurtt 
old de_forge cs1.6 >>> cobblestone> cbble
2014-08-14 20:46
Forge was pretty bad as well. It's better than either of those, but it was still a pretty crappy map.
2014-08-14 21:03
+1
2014-08-14 21:05
good answers from sean as always
2014-08-14 20:47
sgares > ex6 Kappa
2014-08-14 20:47
#16
Norway puap 
c9 might as well just forfeit the match. There's no way in hell Fetish is gonna lose this. 16-3 for dig
2014-08-14 20:48
With the way dignitas almost got outaimed by Vox today, I wouldn't be so sure. What if cloud9 pick up both pistols and bring those sick 2v4 clutches into tomorrow's game?
2014-08-14 20:52
PS: Vox needs to thank to AZR for trying to carry them . Vox has really sick aimers but they have no strategies. EZ PZ For dignitas tomorrow.
2014-08-14 21:07
lmfao
2014-08-14 20:54
riiigth
2014-08-14 21:05
bo1 or bo3 against Dig?
2014-08-14 20:57
bo1. Still in group play.
2014-08-14 20:59
tytyty
2014-08-14 20:59
Bo1
2014-08-14 21:02
if jordan shows up, god help dig.
2014-08-14 21:00
draco malfoy 30 bomb tomorrow!
2014-08-14 21:10
sgares best trick interview .eu
2014-08-14 21:03
For me they have nice design and thats it. Overpass layout is really bad and boring, you can't put 2 bomb sites so close to each other, because then CT will camp on spawn and TT will be crawling to bomb sites. Btw. it's more individual map than teamplay. Cobblestone layout is bad too, maps is too big/open and A bs is on CT spawn when B site is really far away from action. for me it's AWP fcuk festival. Best maps are when bomb sites are away each other and they're not in spawns like on Cobble. Don't forget about "mids" they are really crucial for rotates. I were saying that from release of these maps.
2014-08-14 21:09
#36
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Ukraine potapUA 
It is the worst map ever and it is definately not on competetive lvl. It reminds me some publick troll boring map that you play 4fun. Too much big, too much spot where you should look + the CT just buy AWP and stay right on CT spawn cuz there is one plant and just sit and w8 all the time, they dont even move forward. This map needs to be deleted from the profesional scene.
2014-08-14 21:04
hopefully their will be backlash and they never try to push their shit maps again.
2014-08-14 21:08
it just takes too long to get anything done, as T or in a retake. but I like it.
2014-08-14 21:08
Agree +1
2014-08-14 21:31
cbble was so booring, too big map with milion corners
2014-08-14 21:21
"[...] And then the huge 2v5 B hold on a post-plant. It's like that all games we played against them, really down to the wire and whoever is lucky comes out on top, and today we were lucky." I understand sgares wants to be diplomatic about this and all, but the notion that luck plays a role in this is too ridiculous to even be used as a diplomatic instrument. Titan played worse when it counted and threw away huge advantages like they have a history of doing, not only against C9/coL/Quantic. When a team can't coordinate a 4V2 or 5V2 retake with 2 nade sets left, they simply lose because they are the worse team in that situation. And when they do that consistently...
2014-08-14 21:39
I have to agree with seangares that cobble needs another passage, so you can do fakes or in general just switch objectives, but the map is still playable, as it was 10 years ago. But yeah, a few more corners in a halls and on B would help it greatly. Tuscan is nearly done, so I hope we can get that back into rotation, along with the "new" maps.
2014-08-14 21:42
watching the cobble matches was extremely boring tbh
2014-08-14 22:14
Wanna see a huge map? Just turn on cs_insertion
2014-08-14 22:29
cbbletone sucks to be honest would like to see de_tuscan soon instead of this shitty map
2014-08-14 22:38
The matches on Cbble were boring to say the least. No tactics involved, just clearing the map little by little and taking the aim duels. Secondly, its basically awp map as it is. No use of smoking of one point as both of the sites are huge and snipers will just rotate to another spot. Just make it simpler, better visibility, and smaller: tadaa, you have a competitive map.
2014-08-14 22:43
#59
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United States y0rk 
I love 1.6 CBBLE, but CSGO there seems to be too much clutter. If they could remake the map and make it more viable, it would be great.
2014-08-15 01:23
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