What did we learn from ESL One?

ESL One Cologne 2014, the third CS:GO major, is now in the books. Though the dust has barely settled, we take a look at what we learned from the event.

NiP won ESL One Cologne 2014 over fnatic in the grand final, while LDLC and dignitas shared the 3-4th place finishes. Out in 5-8th place went Cloud9, Virtus.pro, Epsilon and Natus Vincere.

A new record for peak viewers was established with 409,368 concurrent users tuning in to watch the tournament, while a new player record was also set at 277,192 players.

What can we take away from the major that saw a new map veto system, as well as both de_cobblestone and de_overpass introduced? Let's take a look at some of the lessons below.


The confetti has fallen -- let's take a look at what happened before.


Cloud9 are North America's best

Most fans were once again on the iBUYPOWER - or as they're now called on the forums, iBUYPLANETICKETS - bandwagon heading into ESL One. After crashing out in groups at the two previous majors and having a decent run at G3, some expected them to blossom in Cologne. Instead, they added another group stage exit to their resume.

As I explained in my article before G3, iBP's best chance for success was G3, despite the bootcamp they got in before ESL One. Other teams were more vulnerable, and odds are they were psyched enough about their Europe trip that they were actually in better shape, at least on an individual level, than their opponents. Let's take a look at their results, again.

They beat OverGaming, Virtus.pro, and compLexity - twice - at ESEA Finals. Not bad, but not great. At G3 they beat weak NiP and Epsilon with their superstar sick, tied both fnatic and British Infused, and lost against London Conspiracy and Titan. Again, sounds like a resume of a top ten team, but hardly one of a contender.

The other NA team Cloud9 showed up, ready to play, once again in Europe. This isn't the first time everyone underestimates Spencer "Hiko" Martin and company, and they once again delivered. I would even argue this was their best tournament yet, despite finishing a notch higher at the first major last November, when they were knocked out in 3-4th place by fnatic.

Mike "shroud" Grzesiek started off slow versus Titan and really struggled against dignitas, but he was the team's clearly best player in the series against NiP, and should continue improving in the future. Hiko was his usual self, and Kory "SEMPHIS" Friesen proved he can lead a team successfully -- something that should've never been doubted by anyone aware of how seriously he's always taken Counter-Strike.

Had Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert not regressed, down to a poor performance very similar to that at EMS One Katowice, they might've bested NiP, and potentially gone to the grand final. On the other hand, Sean "seang@res" Gares played far above his career averages, even going into their quarter-final against NiP with a 0.80 KPR, as his team's top fragger. He seemingly doesn't AWP anymore, and SEMPHIS is the new in-game leader, but it seems to work.


Semphis & co reign supreme in North America 


Is it time to blow Titan up?

There are some tough decisions to be made in the Titan camp. Do they blow it all up, and make changes? Does Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans retire, despite his statement before G3 claiming he wouldn't before they're back on top? Who would they even get, seeing as players on LDLC and Epsilon likely wouldn't leave for what now could be considered France's third best team.

Titan caught some unlucky breaks at ESL One, and the way they lost against Cloud9 will haunt these players for a long time. Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt said going out in groups "hurt more than anyone [sic]", which is probably a fair description of how the entire team must be feeling. Two group stage exits for a team not a year removed from world's number one status must be devastating.

They wasted five game points against C9, including a five-on-two, and ultimately lost a three-on-one in the overtime to lose the game. Against dignitas they had no chance. They probably wonder whether Hiko's heroics versus the Danes wound up costing them a playoff spot, as they likely would've been far more competitive in a rematch against C9.

The fact is, whatever Titan are doing, is not working. They had a 1-14 terrorist side half on the deciding game, and had to face another early exit. Kenny "kennyS" Schrub is amazing, but neither NBK- or Patrick "ScreaM" Roth - the team's next two stars - were able to perform at this major. Maybe it's a change in style, maybe it's a personnel change. We don't know what the answer is. Either way, it's time to stop deluding ourselves -- Titan aren't a contender.


Titan are devastated 


shox is the most complete, but is he the best, too?

Though Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund showed up big time in the most important maps of the tournament, overall he hasn't been his consistent self for quite a while now. That opens up debate for who might be the world's best player, and I believe the next player in line for the title is unquestionably Richard "shox" Papillon, who also is the most complete player in the world -- by a mile.

There is no other player who can be considered world's best with rifles and pistols, world class with an AWP, and has proven he can lead his team. shox did all of that, while averaging his career rating of 1.21 -- just 0.04 short of Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg's, who doesn't call the shots for NiP. shox also played some really tough spots on all the maps, and hardly plays a lurker role on the terrorist side.

Many hoped to see him return to Titan as they struggled, but it's now entirely conceivable that he might be better off in Epsilon -- if they keep improving at this rate. He is good enough to carry Epsilon to a tournament win, though realistically they are probably one move away from a true contender status.


shox might be the world's best CS:GO player 

 

CZ-75 & Scout need tweaking

We couldn't go through all the demos in time for this article to get exact numbers for this, but having watched every match from ESL One Cologne 2014, it's clear that both CZ-75 Auto and Scout need tweaking. They simply led to far too many easy defensive anti-eco wins -- especially considering the game is already fairly counter-terrorist sided to begin with, with no dominant terrorist sided maps in the pool.

Being able to do 85 damage with a single shot with a weapon you can run around with super fast, and shoot accurately when mid-air is brutal. We saw multiple rounds where a player picked up the Scout and scored three hits, thus nearly eliminating three opponents, all for a price low enough that anyone with one kill on the pistol round can afford it on round two.

Combine that long-range tool with the ridiculous firepower and firing rate of the CZ-75, and you'll quickly understand why so many CZ-75 rounds - which, by the way, only cost $1,500 for an entire team - were won during the event. It's not ideal that no save rounds are ever won; that makes them boring. However, a good balance was struck earlier on in CS:GO, when the P250 reigned as the weapon of choice.

Currently it seems maybe around one of every three - if not more - CZ-75 rounds are won, and it's far too much. If we slowed down its rate of fire or lowered the damage it deals, or even made the magazines smaller, it could be fixed. A more realistic number would probably around 20-25%; still enough to make you want to watch, but not an instant buy for every team.

Almost everything is good in moderation. Current CS:GO fans are basically addicted to heroin with these save rounds wins; no matter how much they get, it's never going to truly satisfy them anymore at this point. We should keep the economical aspect of CS:GO intact -- it's one of the things that truly separates Counter-Strike from other games.


sgares' Scout wreaked havoc against dignitas 


dignitas can't get over the hump

Safe to say this is the case. Looking back at dignitas', who were previously known as Copenhagen Wolves, past five tournament exits, they all have something in common. At DreamHack Winter they were underdogs versus VeryGames - but a good match-up - and came within a few close rounds of upsetting the giants in the quarter-finals, ultimately going home in 5-8th place.

At EMS One Katowice the Danes were blown away by a NiP squad firing on all cylinders, and at Copenhagen Games they came close to besting the Ninjas, with an overtime loss on de_inferno, followed by a fairly even game on de_nuke. A few weeks later René "cajunb" Borg departed the squad, and dignitas added in his place a rising star in Philip "aizy" Aistrup.

Fast-forward three months to early August, when dignitas attended G3 following a long vacation, and dismantled NiP in the quarter-finals. Once again they were stopped in the semi-finals though, this time by the Poles of Virtus.pro, who came back from an early loss on de_dust2 to dominate de_cache 16-2 and win the deciding map de_inferno 16-12.

Their most recent exit comes from ESL One Cologne, where they once again went into the semi-finals - this time probably as slight favorites, as was the case in London - but blew their chance to win de_dust2 against fnatic, and to add insult to injury, lost the second map de_overpass 14-16 after a four-on-two after plant situation in the B bombsite.

Looking at these final two semi-final exits, with Aistrup on the team, statistically, we see no one has performed exceptionally well for them. All of their players average a sub-1.00 rating, though their star players Nicolai "device" Reedtz and Peter "dupreeh" Rasmussen's performances have fallen the most.

Aside from probably being highly psychological at this point, there are probably also some issues in leadership within the team, as per the same assumption used in analyzing the old fnatic team's propensity to always fall short in close games -- only this one seems to affect big games, and so far these semi-finals have been the biggest in these players' careers.

In tough games young teams - dignitas' average age is just 20, and if we remove their in-game leader Henrik "FeTiSh" Christensen from the equation, the other four members average out to just under 19 years old - tend to take on the personality of their leader. If Christensen was the kind of cold-blooded killer this team needs, they'd probably act similar.

Instead we saw dignitas throw away a game against Cloud9 where Rasmussen's three entry kills gave them a five-on-two advantage at 14-14, after blowing an earlier 14-11 lead. Obviously the team's 27 year old leader isn't the only one to blame - far from it - but he's the one who holds the keys to solving this problem.

dignitas are an incredibly consistent team, and with such young players they are far, far removed from reaching their cap. These Danes will continue making deep playoff runs at tournaments in the future, but for now they can't seem to get over the hump. If you're a dignitas fan it's hardly a time to worry; they should get there, but it will simply take a little longer.


dignitas still stuck in the semi-finals 


The group stage format

After three days of solid action, some may have forgotten how flat-out underwhelming the opening day of ESL One Cologne was. Twelve matches were played, and a strong case can be made for only two of them being interesting -- Epsilon's 16-1 thrashing of HellRaisers, and Cloud9's thrilling double overtime win against Titan later on in the day.

ESL opted to use a schedule that made teams play very little each day - dignitas, for example, made it through to the final day and never played more than two maps a day - and with one or two clearly weaker teams in each group, it made the matches of the opening day boring for the viewer as well. The average margin for wins on opening day was 16-6, and almost every game featured a clear favorite going into it -- aside from the two games that wound up being exciting.

There's also the issue of having teams such as Vox Eminor, iBUYPOWER and Wolf - to name the ones with longest travel time, and highest costs - only able to play two or three maps after months of preparation. If ESL instead used two massive groups of eight teams each, we could get two full days of amazing action, each team would be guaranteed seven games, and everyone would be happier.

The other option would be to use a best-of-three GSL group stage, which NBK- also suggested. At the very least, to save time from the schedule, we could make the winner match and the knockout match best-of-threes. That wouldn't help the teams who finish 0-2 and exit early though, and we probably should cater to those teams too -- it's in the scene's best interest that teams such as Vox Eminor gain experience so they can improve.

At ESL One Cologne, basically 25% of the tournament - one day out of four - was practically pointless, and that should never be the case. The organizers should aim to provide us with four days of excitement, if their event lasts four days. It shouldn't be a problem to gather a few extra PCs to run eight team groups, and on paper it seems everyone would benefit from it.


A few extra rows of PCs could make the tournament more exciting 

 

Who over or underperformed?

A few things must be pointed out, again, before we start analyzing the numbers listed on these tables below. First, the real differences are slightly bigger than shown here, as the career numbers we're using are post-ESL One -- which means the players' play has already been taken into account in them.

Another important factor is that almost every team at ESL One Cologne was competitive, whereas these players rack big numbers up in smaller tournaments, and in online matches against weaker teams. Matches against weaker opponents inflate numbers to their natural level, and therefore small declines are to be expected at these major events.

Finally, we decided that a +0.05 increase would be the cut-off point for overperforming -- as anything less than that would've been too insignificant, and it would've only added four more players. Only three players played to their career averages as well, so naturally a large part of the players performed worse, statistically, than they have over their CS:GO careers.

Player ESL One Career Difference
United States Braxton "swag" Pierce 1.43 1.15 +0.28
France Fabien "kioShiMa" Fiey 1.33 1.06 +0.27
Russia Mihail "Dosia" Stolyarov 1.35 1.09 +0.26
France Dan "apEX" Madesclaire 1.38 1.12 +0.26
Poland Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski 1.27 1.11 +0.16
Sweden Robin "flusha" Rönnquist 1.24 1.11 +0.13
Denmark Henrik "FeTiSh" Christensen 1.01 0.89 +0.12
Ukraine Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev 1.22 1.11 +0.11
Canada Mike "shroud" Grzesiek 1.01 0.92 +0.09
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares 0.97 0.88 +0.09
Sweden Olof "olofmeister" Kajbjer 1.19 1.11 +0.08
France Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer 1.17 1.09 +0.08
France Kenny "kennyS" Schrub 1.28 1.21 +0.07

Top of the board belongs to two Frenchmen in kioShiMa and apEX. The former was in incredible shape, even outfragging his superstar teammate shox and posting a ridiculous 28/8 score for +20 against NiP in their group stage upset win on de_cobblestone. Madesclaire's strong play is the main reason LDLC bested Virtus.pro and made the final four.

Snax was Virtus.pro's best player at the event, while flusha and olofmeister helped power fnatic to a second place finish. The former was especially impressive, and should be widely regarded as one of the game's premier stars now. Christensen was much better than he has been over his career, as was Gares, but both of their comparisons are to mediocre ratings.

Schrub once again showed his amazing form from G3, despite being absolute rocked by dignitas in a 1-16 loss, and playing only three games. Just take a look at his score for the first two games. Edward also showcased form similar to his top days in CS 1.6, and Grzesiek played good Counter-Strike, after a lackluster LAN debut at ESEA in June.

Finally, another French player towards the bottom of the list but with a rating that'd be good for eighth in the world over his career was Happy. He is also the in-game leader of LDLC, and finished Cologne with 0.83 kills per round -- a huge number, even for a fragger. He is growing to be one of the underrated stars of the game, and should start receiving more recognition as LDLC climbs the world ranking ladder.

Now, let's take a look at the underperforming players. Something to note is that there are a few on this list - namely Giancarlo "nico" Arróspide, Jacob "Pimp" Winneche, ScreaM and NBK- - who only played three games, as they failed to advance to the playoffs. Furthermore, Titan lost the deciding game 1-16, devouring their players' stats. Keep that in mind when looking at their numbers.

Player ESL One Career Difference
Russia Denis "seized" Kostin 0.96 1.08 -0.12
Switzerland Mathieu "Maniac" Quiquerez 0.84 0.97 -0.13
Sweden Markus "pronax" Wallsten 0.80 0.93 -0.13
Ukraine Yegor "markeloff" Markelov 0.94 1.07 -0.13
Slovakia Lars "guardiaN" Wickler 1.04 1.18 -0.14
Denmark Giancarlo "nico" Arróspide 0.97 1.11 -0.14
Poland Filip "NEO" Kubski 0.91 1.06 -0.15
Ukraine Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko 0.82 1.01 -0.19
Ukraine Kirill "ANGE1" Karasiow 0.85 1.04 -0.19
Belgium Patrick "ScreaM" Roth 0.90 1.13 -0.23
France Joey "fxy0" Schlosser 0.95 1.18 -0.23
United States Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert 0.85 1.08 -0.23
Sweden Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund 1.06 1.30 -0.24
Sweden Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg 1.01 1.25 -0.24
Sweden Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson 0.71 0.96 -0.25
Kazakhstan Dauren "AdreN" Kystaubayev 0.71 1.00 -0.29
Denmark Jacob "Pimp" Winneche 0.78 1.09 -0.31
Ukraine Emil "kUcheR" Akhundov 0.69 1.00 -0.31
France Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt 0.74 1.11 -0.37
Canada Joshua "steel" Nissan 0.67 1.07 -0.40
United States Sam "DaZeD" Marine 0.67 1.08 -0.41
United States Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham 0.62 1.12 -0.50

First thing you probably notice is that both Alesund and Lindberg are among the biggest underperformers -- as is their teammate Fifflaren. NiP had a rocky event, barely squeaking by all their opponents, and that certainly makes it tough for their two superstars to keep up stats that are the world's best, by a fair margin.

Lindberg only had one map in the entire tournament where he played to his usual standard - de_cobblestone versus fnatic - while Alesund had huge performances on de_cobblestone versus Cloud9, as well as the two maps NiP won in the grand final. Johansson was underwhelming across the board, finishing zero maps with a plus-1.00 rating.

shox's brother in arms fxy0 was a big disappointment in Cologne, and could have been what Epsilon was missing as they got knocked out by dignitas. Gilbert played a sub-par tournament, and it for sure lowered the team's ceiling -- though he was equally unimpressive at EMS One Katowice, the previous major.

Three Na`Vi players also surface on the list, most notably guardiaN who seemed very inconsistent when watching the team play. seized also took a step back after seemingly becoming a true star in their recent events, while Zeus's event started with a mouse breaking, and never truly got back on track.

Other players who underperformed from the top finishers were pronax - the in-game leader of fnatic, who clearly did his job - and Maniac, whose efforts LDLC could have probably used in the three map thriller against NiP. However, it's important to remember that players with sub-1.00 career rating are the ones who are almost expected to underperform at major events - due to inflated stats against weaker opposition - which should always be taken into consideration.


kioShiMa was ESL One's biggest overperformer 


New maps, veto process

Let it be known I am a fan of the seven map rotation as a viewer, and I do believe adding new maps is a good idea. However, it does seem like neither de_cobblestone or de_overpass is quite ready for serious play, after seeing them used at ESL One Cologne. Furthermore, there's already a great alternative out there in de_season, and rumours say de_tuscan could, once again, be released soon.

Titan's NBK- made the point on Twitter that de_cobblestone is probably too large, considering how all rounds seem to come down to the very last second. Add in the fact there are still very few choke points and the map seems awfully defensive sided, and it's starting to resemble its CS 1.6 counterpart. We'll see if Valve will change it, or force the next major to use it, but for now, the map could use some fixes to allow for more creative terrorist play, or to at least make it harder for the defense. Terrorists won only 59 of 154 rounds played - good for 38,3% - and a lot of them came from won pistol rounds and the save rounds that followed.

Unfortunately de_overpass doesn't seem much different - though it's easier to fix - it's a very, very defensive sided map. It's near impossible to get into the bombsites as a terrorist, and even the retakes seem to favor the defense. In four matches on the map, the terrorists only won 41 out of available 110 rounds, good for 37,3% - including pistol rounds and the following save rounds, which probably contributed roughly 15 of those rounds. It's simply not good enough.

More preparation - remember, everyone's biggest issue with these maps being usd was the fact they were announced a month or so prior to the event - would lead to more creative terrorist play on both maps, and might change the balance. However, considering how flawed de_overpass is with the fast rotations and easy-to-retake bombsites, it probably needs changes in any case.

Map Overall Groups Playoffs 3rd map
de_cache 3/38 (7,9%) 2/20 (10%) 1/18 (5,6%) -
de_cobblestone 6/38 (15,8%) 3/20 (15%) 3/18 (16,7%) 2/7 (28,6%)
de_dust2 9/38 (23,7%) 4/20 (20%) 5/18 (27,8%) -
de_inferno 7/38 (18,4%) 3/20 (15%) 4/18 (22,2%) 2/7 (28,6%)
de_mirage 3/38 (7,9%) 2/20 (10%) 1/18 (5,6%) -
de_nuke 6/38 (15,8%) 3/20 (15%) 3/18 (16,7%) 2/7 (28,6%)
de_overpass 4/38 (10,5%) 3/20 (15%) 1/18 (5,6%) 1/7 (14,3%)

Potential fixes for de_overpass include removing the house of death in A, removing the ability for the defense to jump on top of the sandbags and spot any terrorist looming outside of the B site, and slowing down the counter-terrorists' rotations on the map. Currently you can over-rotate at the first sign of trouble because it's so easy to retake the sites, and they're very close to each other.

As for the veto process, it also clearly needs work -- though it's unclear how much Valve is willing to budge going forward. NBK- said it's for matchmaking, and Reedtz said it favors the higher seed too much -- and remember, Reedtz was the higher seed in every single one of dignitas' matches, and would be at the next major against everyone but fnatic and NiP, so that says something.

It also seems like a bad solution to allow a random map draw to determine the outcome of a series, which happened in Na`Vi vs. fnatic -- though it was clearly Na`Vi's fault. Instead, we should opt for a more reasonable approach, which still allows teams to have control, yet keeps the option open for any of six maps to be played at any point, thus promoting more maps.

What we should try using is a ban-ban-pick-pick-ban-ban process, with the final map left as the third one. That would force each team to practice six different maps - as did Valve's approach - but a random draw couldn't decide the winner of a series. Teams could still practice both "custom" maps (whether those remain the same or not, on top of the five standard maps) and gain an advantage -- but it wouldn't be random.


Should a random draw really decide a series? 


fnatic prove they're among the best

After eight months or so of fairly average results by the winners of the first CS:GO major, fnatic reloaded their roster by adding Kajbjer and Freddy "KRIMZ" Johansson from LGB, and shifting Jonatan "Devilwalk" Lundberg to the position of a coach. These moves instantly paid dividends, as the Swedes finished 3-4th at G3 and now second at ESL One Cologne.

Though the team donning black and orange clearly benefited from their decision to practice both de_cobblestone and de_overpass, it can't exactly be held against them -- as is the case with NiP. One of their strengths is the leadership skills of Wallsten and the creative setups and strategies he often comes up with, and that's the kind of thing that carries over well to new maps, as seen in Cologne this past weekend.

It's also encouraging to see Rönnquist return with a superstar level performance. He became a true star late in 2013, and has continued playing like one throughout 2014, but hasn't been noticed with his team underperforming. Another breakout player was his new teammate Kajbjer, who played the best tournament of his career - considering opposition they faced - and seems like a very good fit to fnatic. He's a very versatile player, which helps in Wallsten's system.

Ultimately it was only a few minor mistakes on de_cobblestone against NiP that kept Rönnquist and company from winning their second major, and they will likely be kept awake for a few nights just thinking about that two-versus-one situation against Friberg in the A site, when the score was still 11-10 in fnatic's favor on the opening map.

The comeback win versus Virtus.pro showed real character, and though fnatic almost blew de_nuke against Na`Vi despite a strong terrorist half, they easily overcame dignitas, and put up a real fight against the greatest CS:GO team of all-time. This is still a new team, so there's plenty of potential for improvement. Now they face the hardest challenge yet.

After winning DreamHack Winter, fnatic seemingly got lazy and it led to them struggling for over six months. This is an achievement of almost the same level, and especially for the two ex-LGB players winning their share of $50,000 could affect their motivation. Only future will tell how the players deal with it -- will it motivate them, or will fnatic struggle again, until a change is made.


cArn should be proud of what fnatic accomplished 


CS:GO is becoming huge

We've said this before, but we'll say it again. ESL One Cologne broke all the records for CS:GO with 409,368 concurrent viewers tuning in during its peak in the grand final, and 272,192 players playing the game at one point during the weekend.

Something interesting to point out also is that League of Legends' LCS Europe Finals were held simultaneously at Gamescom, and CS:GO actually topped LoL in terms of viewership -- a huge accomplishment that should once again get our game added to more events.

Finally, we explained before ESL One how much money the stickers bring in for the game. Skins do the same -- Valve make money from every transaction in the Steam market. These events are profitable for them, so we'll likely see more in the future.

Hopefully one day Valve will host a The International -type mega tournament for CS:GO, but while we wait for it, it's hard to complain about multiple $250,000 tournaments year. There is still time for one more major before 2014 is over.

The CS:GO developers posing with NiP

The CS:GO developers posing with NiP


NiP are a truly great team

NiP winning ESL One Cologne 2014 truly shows how great they are as a team. They came into the event in questionable shape, lost against Epsilon in the group stage, and then had to overcome a two-on-four terrorist side pistol round against HellRaisers to even pass the opening group stage. Hardly sounds like the start to a tournament winning run.

In the playoffs they were pushed to their very limits in every round. First by Cloud9, whom they beat 16-14 twice in maps two and three, and then by LDLC, who also rocked them on map one, and who they overcame 16-14 on the third and final map. No team was tested as much as NiP, and yet they were still able to overcome all those obstacles.

It's somewhat ironic NiP wound up winning this major -- they were in better form at the previous two, and played better overall. However, it's the fashion in which the win finally came that truly shows their character. Friberg carried them early on in the tournament, and when going got rough, Alesund woke up and pulled them across the finish line.

Though Richard "Xizt" Landström remains the team's in-game leader and the man in charge of calling out the plays, it was clear that Faruk "pita" Pita contributed to the team. When contacted by HLTV.org, Pita pointed out the 3-7 deficit against LDLC on the opening half of their deciding map, de_cobblestone, in the semi-finals. He directed the team to do the connector attack that spread LDLC's defense and ultimately allowed them to win two more rounds. It's clear his late addition was a net-positive for NiP, and he will only improve on his role as he gains more experience with the team.

With no events in the near horizon for the Ninjas, I am curious to see whether they opt to go on another - well deserved at that - vacation after becoming the world champions, or if they may want to buckle down and put in some extra hours, considering how close they were to getting defeated far earlier than they're used to in these events.

Johansson likely isn't going anywhere - they did win a major after all - but if he has any plans of retiring, now would be the perfect time. He'd go out at the top of the game, having won the biggest tournament there is. It's also worth pointing out that he'd make for a terrific coach. He knows everything there is to know about NiP, their playing style, and what works for them. There is no reason to change right now, but if they had any plans of doing it in the future, now would be the best time for Johansson's legacy.

With that being said, NiP have seemingly made up their minds -- they're sticking to this roster through thick and thin, and so far it has always paid dividends. They caught some lucky breaks at ESL One - two deciders on de_cobblestone, for instance - but every champion gets lucky sometimes. They're the world's best, and the greatest, CS:GO team -- and it's not even close.


GeT_RiGhT was spent after their win  

 

Points that did not make the cut:

 

Coaching is a go

Multiple teams at ESL One Cologne employed a coach. That list includes winners NiP, runner ups fnatic, 3-4th place finishers dignitas, as well as Wolf and Titan, who went out during the group stage. With Pita proving a valuable addition to the team with the best team work, most chemistry and likely strongest communication, it's clear a good coach can help any team improve. Expect more teams to pick up coaches in the future -- this trend is here to stay.


World rankings update

I know you're waiting for the official ranking update now, but you'll have to wait a little longer. Though the combination of results from G3 and ESL One has basically settled every question we had going into August, we will wait out SLTV StarSeries X Finals - taking place on August 30-31 - and aim to update the official HLTV.org world rankings in mid-to-late September.


Na`Vi messed up with maps

How can you show up at one of these events knowing you can be forced to play six maps, with every team in the world fully aware you don't play de_nuke, and then decide to only practice five? Though it was obviously very unlucky, and probably shouldn't have happened, it was still stupid on their part. 

 

pasha's 'struggles' continue

Let's make sure one thing is known -- Jarosław "pashaBiceps" Jarząbkowski had a good event at ESL One Cologne. He finished with a rating of 1.11, and was a huge reason Virtus almost beat LDLC on de_dust2. However, he's now multiple events removed from being considered one of the world's best players, like he was earlier in the year. He was great earlier, and he's still very good -- just not in conversation for the best.

 

LDLC keep steadily improving

We ranked them fifth in the world in our July world ranking, and this 3-4th place finish, with a nail-biting loss to NiP in the third map's final round, will only move them higher up on the ranking. They are France's best team now - there's no question about it based on results - and it will be fascinating to see if they can still keep getting better with the same roster built around Madesclaire.

 

What will happen to HellRaisers?

They came into ESL One with high expectations having skipped over G3, and having bootcamped for a long time, but disappointed by losing 1-16 against Epsilon and getting knocked out by NiP on de_overpass. They also previously lost to Epsilon at DreamHack Valencia, in a humiliating 0-16 fashion. Oh, and did I mention this was their worst tournament result since the team was founded last July as Astana Dragons. Can they go on without changes? I'm not sure.

 

Where is flamie headed?

After a ton of criticism started by Mikail "Maikelele" Bill and Marcus "Delpan" Larsson, Egor "flamie" Vasilyev showed great form at ESL One Cologne, racking up 0.82 kills per round and some thoroughly impressive headshots while his team got devoured by two clearly stronger sides. Don't be surprised if he winds up with one of the two powerhouses in his region.


LDLC are a real team 


According to ESL's Alexander "carni" Holtz Shedden, the question about the next ESL One major isn't if, but when. Let these results sink in for awhile, but just know we may get another one in 2014.

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France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1652
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1442
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
Peru Giancarlo 'nico' Arróspide
Giancarlo 'nico' Arróspide
Age:
-
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
APR:
0.00
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1047
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
Russia Denis 'seized' Kostin
Denis 'seized' Kostin
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1224
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Sweden Mikail 'Maikelele' Bill
Mikail 'Maikelele' Bill
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
958
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.14
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1528
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
France Joey 'fxy0' Schlosser
Joey 'fxy0' Schlosser
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
186
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
United States Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
525
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1627
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
676
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Denmark Henrik 'FeTiSh' Christensen
Henrik 'FeTiSh' Christensen
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.86
Maps played:
239
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.17
Denmark Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1312
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Poland Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1681
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.17
Denmark René 'cajunb' Borg
René 'cajunb' Borg
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1452
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1611
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1403
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.13
Sweden Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
1199
KPR:
0.60
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
22
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1239
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Sweden Patrick 'ScreaM' Roth
Patrick 'ScreaM' Roth
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
APR:
0.00
Russia Emil 'kUcheR' Akhundov
Emil 'kUcheR' Akhundov
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
852
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Bosnia and Herzegovina Faruk 'pita' Pita
Faruk 'pita' Pita
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
173
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.15
United States Sam 'DaZeD' Marine
Sam 'DaZeD' Marine
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
170
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.19
Sweden Marcus 'Delpan' Larsson
Marcus 'Delpan' Larsson
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
154
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.12
Switzerland Mathieu 'Maniac' Quiquerez
Mathieu 'Maniac' Quiquerez
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
830
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1592
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
Germany Lars 'guardiaN' Wickler
Lars 'guardiaN' Wickler
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
APR:
0.00
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1573
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
813
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Kazakhstan Dauren 'AdreN' Kystaubayev
Dauren 'AdreN' Kystaubayev
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1434
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Sweden Jonatan 'Devilwalk' Lundberg
Jonatan 'Devilwalk' Lundberg
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.86
Maps played:
400
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1143
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
Kirill 'ANGE1' Karasiow
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1634
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.17
United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
917
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
Canada Joshua 'steel' Nissan
Joshua 'steel' Nissan
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
436
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
Russia Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov
Mihail 'Dosia' Stolyarov
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1396
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1248
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1414
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
1400
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.17
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1523
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Sweden Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1377
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.15
Sweden Robin 'Fifflaren' Johansson
Robin 'Fifflaren' Johansson
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
537
KPR:
0.60
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.15
Sweden Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1502
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.18
Denmark Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
976
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.14
Sweden Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1549
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
Sweden Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1329
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1598
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Canada Kory 'SEMPHIS' Friesen
Kory 'SEMPHIS' Friesen
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
806
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.14
United States Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Age:
31
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
713
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Belgium Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1393
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
1584
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.11
nice read
2014-08-19 20:02
nice
2014-08-19 20:02
n1 read
2014-08-19 20:05
Nice article
2014-08-19 20:08
Finally a good read with no stupid shit on it mazel tov lurp
2014-08-19 21:24
#12
United Kingdom pugh 
small paragraph on fiffy. gz you're learning :D:D:D:D:D
2014-08-19 20:08
#92
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
his twitter is different to posting articles on hltv.org you know?personal=/professional
2014-08-19 21:09
I think he deleted the tweets abt Fifflaren
2014-08-20 00:15
ive seldomly read so much bullshit in 1.5 lines.
2014-08-20 03:12
previous articles had more fiffy bashing? are you stupid? mong
2014-08-21 17:43
No opinion on casters and the analyzers desk ? hehe
2014-08-19 20:14
Still iBUYPOWER is better than Cloud9 lurppis
2014-08-19 20:14
haha ofc they are...^^ :D
2014-08-19 20:23
#39
 | 
Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
Head-to-head : Yes. World Ranking : No
2014-08-19 20:36
+1
2014-08-19 21:15
Some teams are just horrible match ups, and iBP vs C9 is one of them. It's like iBP won't let C9 play their own game and force them in theirs, like in boxing.
2014-08-19 22:36
We haven't seen them match up with shroud yet
2014-08-20 01:51
Shroud is an awesome guy for C9, but he falls perfectly within them. That's a bit of a problem. C9 is an entry-team. They go aggressive and iBP somehow knows how to neutralize that. Shroud falls in that "entry"-role. I'd like to see them battle with Shroud and SWAG both in their best form and I will always be cheering for C9, but I doubt they can win.
2014-08-20 02:17
hahahahhahahaahhahahahahahahahahaha ok
2014-08-19 20:48
no
2014-08-19 21:11
lolnope
2014-08-19 23:12
#354
 | 
Portugal antCB 
?__?
2014-08-21 16:20
Confetti has color of Sweden flag. London Conspiracy !
2014-08-19 20:16
Another one in 2014? That's what Im talking about boys!! =D)D
2014-08-19 20:21
DHW maybe
2014-08-19 22:47
DHW is confirmed but what he is saying is possibilty of another ESL major in 2014
2014-08-20 11:45
Did they also confirm the 250k price pool? :D
2014-08-20 13:30
Not yet, what I'm aware of. But DHW13 was the tournament where it all started, and with the success from the previous majors in Katowice and Cologne I wouldn't be suprised if a bigger prize pool was announced this time. 500.000 maybe?
2014-08-20 18:53
im a bit worried because i somewhere read that esl maybe had a contract so that they are the only ones hosting a major. not sure if legit tho
2014-08-20 20:02
I think ESL has contracts to hold the 250k majors not all the majors xD
2014-08-31 18:35
Counter Strike <3
2014-08-19 20:22
Yet not a single word about Fifflaren. GG Lurppis.
2014-08-19 20:22
"Johansson likely isn't going anywhere - they did win a major after all - but if he has any plans of retiring, now would be the perfect time. He'd go out at the top of the game, having won the biggest tournament there is. It's also worth pointing out that he'd make for a terrific coach. He knows everything there is to know about NiP, their playing style, and what works for them. There is no reason to change right now, but if they had any plans of doing it in the future, now would be the best time for Johansson's legacy. With that being said, NiP have seemingly made up their minds -- they're sticking to this roster through thick and thin, and so far it has always paid dividends. They caught some lucky breaks at ESL One - two deciders on de_cobblestone, for instance - but every champion gets lucky sometimes. They're the world's best, and the greatest, CS:GO team -- and it's not even close."
2014-08-19 21:05
LEL. For a little momen't i forgot Fifflaren's name and just past by this part of the article. Thanks a lot for bumping me haha.
2014-08-20 18:42
I thought the education in Australia was good...
2014-08-20 05:41
Are we starting the country discussions here? Because i don't really want to.
2014-08-20 20:59
lurppis strong as always
2014-08-19 20:24
Titan :( <3
2014-08-19 20:25
bwarf
2014-08-19 20:32
You, lurppis, should retire of making articles on HLTV. I have never seen anyone in journalism suggest a retirement to a guy who just won one of the biggest events of his life. I don't know what you have against Fifflaren, but you seem truely harmed from him by the way you speak about
2014-08-19 20:28
#38
 | 
Singapore Nephalith 
Well the media said the same thing about Fergie when he and Manchester United won the double in 2008.
2014-08-19 20:36
i agree that he should have left that part out of the article (he already tweeted about it, and as a personal opinion its ok), but he did play a horrible tournament individually and it shouldn't go unnoticed when making reports like this
2014-08-19 20:42
if he wrote it for example about overdrive, people would barely notice it
2014-08-19 21:46
#174
f0rest | 
Sweden Krovvy 
In sports this is often suggested.
2014-08-19 22:38
He writes his professional opinion in the articles. Nothing wrong with that, cant get mad everytime a sportsjournalist bashes an athlethe, it`s a part of the buiness.
2014-08-20 11:24
"First thing you probably notice is that both Alesund and Lindberg are among the biggest underperformers -- as is their teammate Robin "Fifflaren" Johansson." Can you fuck off already luppris?
2014-08-19 20:28
#37
 | 
Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
That's not even his personal opinion. Those are just stats. Wtf are you want dude?
2014-08-19 20:35
He is clearly hating him even in this official article. What an asshole.
2014-08-19 20:37
#46
 | 
Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
The portion that you pointed to, is clearly only addressing people who performed below their career average stats. And STATISTICALLY, Fiffy played way below his average. Is there even any possible way for Lurppis to communicate that message to you, without you thinking that he's hating on Fifflaren?
2014-08-19 20:41
I dont think its possible to communicate with certain members on this forum, sadly :(
2014-08-20 03:51
+1
2014-08-20 15:09
#48
Russia sjf 
he offered well backed up analysis of his performance. grow up kid
2014-08-19 20:41
#56
 | 
Singapore Nephalith 
You're clearly more than capable to understand simple English. You're just nitpicking whatever he says to wind up the lurppis flame fest. Ironic because you're now doing exactly what you're accusing him of doing.
2014-08-19 20:46
you are fucking stupid
2014-08-19 22:59
#43
Russia sjf 
lurrpis has arguments, you have nothing. so shut the fuck up.
2014-08-19 20:39
+1 to this
2014-08-19 21:10
have all my +1s
2014-08-19 21:25
#178
 | 
Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
+1
2014-08-19 22:42
+11111111
2014-08-19 23:00
So now he is not allowed to write anything about Fifflaren? He just pointed out a fact, which I, for example, noticed just from the stats without even reading the text.
2014-08-19 20:55
You are obsesed, for real. Seek help.
2014-08-19 21:56
^^
2014-08-22 13:39
wtf no critics on how boring esl cologne was and how bad commentators and analysts are? :O
2014-08-19 20:29
Everyone knows the "analysis" was terrible, no need to mention it. I sincerely hope I don't see Richard Lewis as an analyst again, this guy doesn't know anything, all he does is state the obvious.
2014-08-19 20:49
+Lurppis, he is not there because Redeye don't like him and have personal problems seems, not because Lurppis is bad lol, that Richard is there because is friend and British like Redeye.
2014-08-20 15:03
Retard detected. Redeye probably hates Richard Lewis/has had more arguments with him than anyone else in eSports. Take your Lurppis fanboy hat off and stop sucking his dick for a minute so you can realise he is fucking shit at casting/analysing infront of a camera as well.
2014-08-24 16:43
#82
 | 
Ukraine AnatolijNook 
nice reading skills
2014-08-19 20:59
Because comments about those topics are purely opinion based and, contrary to all the shit he gets, lurppis's articles are backed by statistics.
2014-08-19 21:56
statistics and opinions
2014-08-19 22:02
Opinions backed by statistics. This distinction shouldn't be difficult.
2014-08-19 22:11
#30
 | 
Singapore Nephalith 
Now maikelele and Delpan need to apologize to flamie :p
2014-08-19 20:31
We'll be waiting a while :D
2014-08-19 23:08
Dint he already apologize :S .. i read it in some article I am sure ....
2014-08-20 11:50
shox will never be the best player if he keeps playing in that team tbh
2014-08-19 20:31
true NBK - shox - Happy - apEX - kennyS We are waiting :-D!!
2014-08-19 20:39
#51
 | 
Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
Best lineup. Not gonna happen though... Apex and KennyS have issues (since old LDLC disbanded) Apes and Shox have issues (since CS Source times) (Based on what I have read on this website, I have no proof to back those facts up)
2014-08-19 20:43
nbk-shox-kennys-kioshima-smithzz ldlc wont change their lineup, they're the best team in france
2014-08-19 20:48
#67
 | 
Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
-smithzz +ScreaM ScreaM at least has a role in the team. smithzz will be lost bigtime... KennyS primary awp, shox secondary awp, kioshima used to be awper in 1.6 but plays rifle in CSGO. There is no need for another awp player whose rifle potential is low.
2014-08-19 20:52
i'd pick smithzz as a support player, since he'd make them communicate, contribute to shox's calling etc
2014-08-19 20:54
they dont need to nerf SCOUT but cz is op
2014-08-19 20:31
#34
 | 
Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
CSGO's second birthday is on 21st August (2 days time), I'm fully expecting Volvo to announce the CSGO international on that day.
2014-08-19 20:34
expect Valve to bring bazooka
2014-08-19 22:36
#214
Brazil dkf 
I don't think they'll announce something like this right now. They are probably busy with the next major (if I recall correctly, they talked about 4 majors a year), and to me would make no sense migrating from the current 4-majors formula before introducing stuff that empowers leagues from everywhere in the world (like the tickets and spectating that they have on Dota). Also they'll probaby go F2P before a CSGO International, that is, if it will ever happen.
2014-08-20 01:10
this was literally the worst event ever.
2014-08-19 20:34
Worse than IronGaming LAN?
2014-08-19 20:55
cant say that for sure but I was in Cologne and it fucking sucked, I couldnt watch a single game. I just found out the results when I was at home on monday morning
2014-08-19 21:13
how the fuck did you manage to not watch a single game? Did you expect them to let in viewers who come late to get in and push the earlybirds out? wow. I was there and i was at DHS. I must say considering the number of seats, the audience was way better in cologne. The noise was nearly the same while there were around 200 guys at cologne and around 1500 at DHS.
2014-08-19 22:00
they had like what 200 seats? thats all? No screen outside of the arena? big black walls so you couldnt see it? There was literally no way to see the games if you were there, I saw many people watching it via twitch on their phones while they were standing next to the arena
2014-08-20 07:50
There was a lot more than 200 seats at cologne lol. I paused on the overhead shot and counted the #'s and rows because i'm a nerd. It was closer to 400.
2014-08-20 20:04
even if it was 400, do you thinks thats enough? gamescom hat over 300k visitors :p
2014-08-21 10:41
3 words: India Gaming Carnival.
2014-08-19 21:30
#36
Poland R33 
Mike "shroud" Grzesiek MC grzesio
2014-08-19 20:35
#40
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Poland Marvelm 
Good read Lurppis!
2014-08-19 20:37
#42
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Macedonia EXTOL[t] 
Good read...
2014-08-19 20:38
NBK is not mentioned even though he had the worse difference yet fifflaren is mention :D
2014-08-19 20:40
because nbk played 3 maps, fifflaren played 12
2014-08-19 20:49
each game was harder than the last, if he'd only played the first 3 games, his rating would be higher.
2014-08-19 22:27
NBK was the biggest underperformer of the tournament imo
2014-08-19 20:55
#97
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
how come if he played 3 matches(only the gs)
2014-08-19 21:11
people think that three maps mean the same thing as twelve maps :D
2014-08-19 21:52
Yep. And on one map they got stomped 1-16. there is not much to do if you suck as a team. He might have done better if the game was close tbh.
2014-08-20 00:17
terrorist side nuke against one of the best ct sides in the world... of course he looks like he underperformed haha
2014-08-20 00:43
#47
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United States n3h 
We learned that hiko is a fkn beast
2014-08-19 20:41
#70
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
We *confirmed that hiko is a fkn beast FTFY.
2014-08-19 20:54
That's never even been in doubt. He's always been a beast and when he's on fire, you better hide. (Especially you Get Right, remember that Dust II, double doors mid HS?)
2014-08-20 02:22
#324
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Argentina fex18 
But... Gtr was hiding and still got destroyed haha.
2014-08-20 19:19
I'd rather call that Lurking and not really hiding. :D
2014-08-20 19:28
I believe the next player in line for the title is unquestionably Richard "shox" Papillon.. best thing i've read in this topic <3 He's the most complete player in CS GO indeed..
2014-08-19 20:43
i thought pita got fulltime job at bank?
2014-08-19 20:44
#53
Europe Ark- 
fuck coaching
2014-08-19 20:44
Good read
2014-08-19 20:45
n1
2014-08-19 20:45
Biggest article in hltv.org history? Nice read though
2014-08-19 20:46
come on taz, retire and give flamie your spot. and you will coach virtus!!!!
2014-08-19 20:47
Poles playing with russian, I dont see that one coming...
2014-08-19 20:56
taz is much better than neo
2014-08-19 21:57
Glad to see that you are finally acknowledging that the GSL-style group system does not work in CS. Been saying that since it was first introduced.
2014-08-19 20:47
it's the best format for players.
2014-08-19 21:58
Because they know that they will only really have to play one game to make it out of the group? Possibly, but it leads to a bunch of really dull games. Anyway, I ranted re what I thought was wrong with the system in more detail a couple of days ago: hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=642170#r590..
2014-08-19 22:17
no, because they know that a win is a win, and that a three-way tie won't have them knocked out due to round difference.
2014-08-19 22:25
But a win is not a win. You can be knocked out of the group even if you are 1-1 vs the team that knocks you out.
2014-08-19 22:30
you can't be knocked out without 2 losses.
2014-08-19 22:39
Yes, that is true, and this is the perfect system for a game like SC that is a little bit more volatile and where you have a more even skill level between the contenders. However, in a game like CS where you have a bigger skill gap between the teams and seeding - and seeding truly is the antithesis of the GSL system - it simply incentivises teams to game it. GSL-style: 1st round: #1 seed stomps #4 seed. #2 and #3 seeds both throw the game, #2 wins. 2nd round: #1 seed beats #2 seed, wins the group. #3 seed stomps #4 seed. #4 seed goes home with less than 10 rounds in two maps. Decider: #3 seed beats #2 seed in a close game. Result: it is a perfectly viable - and arguably even a preferred - strategy to put all your eggs in one basket, i.e. on the decider match. In this situation, #3 seed makes it to the playoffs with only one game that they take seriously. Game one is irrelevant, game two is easy, game three is what counts. Contrast this to the round robin system where #3 seed would have to actually show their A-game vs both #1 and #2 seeds in order to make sure they get through.
2014-08-19 23:02
I completely agree
2014-08-20 00:44
I didn't read your message but I couldn't agree more. Let's take an example for a groupstage with this terrible system: Group, NiP HR ATE.in & myxmg NiP wins vs ATE 16-1 NiP loses 16-14 vs HR NiP loses 14-16 vs ATE on some random match according to this ridiculous system, the score in maps is 1-1 and rounds are 30-17 in favor of NiP yet ATE would advance because they had a lucky victory against NiP on a random map after losing 1-16 to NiP in the first match.
2014-08-20 06:24
there's only a bigger skill gap if events continue inviting poor teams instead of the best ones. how does that incentivize anyone to game it? why would you lose on purpose and not try to win your group? that makes literally zero sense. as far as the second game goes -- not all matches are created equal. that's why some teams do well in group stages, and others in the playoffs.
2014-08-20 07:46
Because, again, I think it is a matter of practicality. Do you fight tooth and nail in two or three tough games to get out of the group, or do you put all your efforts into the last game? And you do not necessarily need to throw the game from out outset, but let's say that you start as CT on mirage in your opening game, then lose pistol and maybe the following 1-2 gunrounds (it is perfectly possible for a team playing against an evenly matched opponent to be down say 0-5 or more even on a favoured side). Do you think: "well, shit, the comeback needs to be real or we are out" or do you instead choose to forget about this game, save your best T-side strats (ones that you might have been hiding just to perform in this tourney) for later for games that actually matter? Maybe that is what HR did? Instead of trying to come back from an initial big deficit, they decided to focus on the final game? They eventually lost, but they lost against NiP, who they would have faced in the winners match anyway. I take on board your comment about weaker teams being invited to tournaments, but I would not expect to see big changes even if teams such as mouz & others replaced the worst four teams in the groups - again because of seeding. The GSL does not use seeding - nor would it really matter if they did because SC2 is a far different game from CS - but the point stays: as long as seeding is used, only two out of five games in each group will actually be of interest, the winner and the decider matches. So expect to see more snoozefests that were the opening games of ESL if the current status quo is maintained.
2014-08-20 12:02
that's just a loser's mentality. nothing else to say.
2014-08-20 12:56
-1 no logic at all
2014-08-23 07:48
Lurppis, finally something where you don't piss on Fifflaren and just say something that's actually objective. Just do this and stop those fucking tweets about how mad you are. That's all that you need. :s
2014-08-20 02:26
every time i read something like this, i feel inclined to do more stuff that annoys you and others like you -- just so you don't think you can affect what i do.
2014-08-20 07:47
rekt ;_'
2014-08-20 10:31
And there we are. The proof that you have the mentality of a 12 year old girl. I can't wait until you fuck off and never get invited to Majors anymore. Or any other tournament for that matter.
2014-08-20 11:46
that's fine, if people don't want me to cast then i have no problem with that
2014-08-20 12:54
No. We need you and Thorin. You understand why!
2014-08-20 13:33
You actually look forward to him not succeeding in the scene despite all his hard work, because you don't like him. You constantly moan about how you don't like him. You start threads about how much you hate him. And you're calling him the girl?
2014-08-20 16:07
Oh this is just pure gold. I started ONE thread about him. I "moan" about how I dislike his personality, fair enough. I look forward to him being kicked out of the scene, definitely. A cunt like him has no place in a Community this big and NEW.
2014-08-20 16:20
so 60% of the team who won a major are underperforming by .25 and yet 90% of the article are stats of similar credibility ...
2014-08-19 20:47
agreed. the author even acknowledged that comparing the stats to overall stats is not valid. then still does it... q.e.d.
2014-08-19 21:43
You misinterpreting numbers doesn't make them less "credible". Compared to how insanely beastly f0rest and GTR have been throughout their CSGO careers, they simply were rather poor this tournament (and during the past few months).
2014-08-19 23:23
I think the problem is that, NIP's stats are largely based on their 87-0 lan streak where they were the only good team, so now that there are many other competitors, their stats will ofcourse be belwo their csgo career average
2014-08-20 12:57
Some scout stats that I looked up, this doesn't take into account occasions when someone used a scout to damage an enemy and finished him off with a pistol/teammate not using a scout. In total there were 17 total scout kills with only 4 players getting more than 1 scout kill and of those 4 only 3: seangares, pasha and guardian got 2 or more scout kills in a round. To break it down even more only seangares 3 kills against dignitas on Mirage took place on an "eco" for the player using the scout and resulted in a round win. I don't think the scout needs anything done to it after looking up those stats just the cz needs a nerf.
2014-08-19 20:53
#74
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
Well, it's not hard to get a single bullet in with any pistol, really. p250 would do the job of finishing off just as well. But to your point, I also don't think scout should be nerfed though. It adds a new dynamic to the game, which I like.
2014-08-19 20:56
Yes, it is definitely a risky decision to buy a scout. I very much enjoy eco rounds in CS:GO with the exception of the cz which I think should be a bit more expensive if not outright nerfed in the performance department. As a long time 1.6 viewer, teams used to just throw their eco rounds away which made those rounds extremely boring. This new style allows for some crazy turn of events, and its really only the pistol round winning team's fault if they get taken out by cz/scouts....It adds an extra element to top level play that teams must account for. I think teams will eventually learn not to die as much from getting eco'd which could in turn eventually convince teams to stop risking their save rounds on subpar weapons. It takes time for money management strategies to settle.
2014-08-19 21:11
Completely agree with you. And the Scout is a major round #2 investment, which deprives you of a full round 3/4 buy if it does not pay off. The CZ, on the other hand, is a safe buy in every single eco round.
2014-08-19 21:16
Exactly, on second thought, however, jumping and shooting with scout is fucking dumb and should be removed from the game...
2014-08-19 21:49
Hell no. :o That's what makes it so awesome. You could nerf the running speed though. It's just insane high.
2014-08-20 02:24
no! dont touch the speed, please, remove jump shot or whatever but not the speed, thats what really make this gun so fun to use.
2014-08-20 03:59
...the jumping makes it so fun to use.
2014-08-20 11:47
#69
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Russia stat1c 
A whole paragraph about fifflaren? dayum lurppis
2014-08-19 20:53
It was obvious even before the event: if nip loose main reason is Fifflaren and if they win he is still bad and should be switched for allu.
2014-08-19 20:59
That's a quality article lurppis, but please calm down on the tweets.
2014-08-19 20:55
#109
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Finland merkkis 
Here he stated the opinion as a HLTV writer, at twitter it's hes own opinions. Or thats how I have understanded it.
2014-08-19 21:22
I know and I agree with pretty much all his tweets, but it's just so unprofessional... And I want lurppis back as caster but it isn't going to happen if he continues like this.
2014-08-19 21:39
#78
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
I'd prefer the next major to happen at Dreamhack. ESL guys are pussies. Thorin would have made the analysis desk worth watching, now it was just a snack break.
2014-08-19 20:57
I guess the future of cs is to have a coach (like in football), and 5 mad-aimers. What do you think? I mean, now a coach can be on ts with the team, can walk between them, or watch the game from a laptop - as cArn did at DHW. So why a team should need a igl anymore?
2014-08-19 21:00
Look at HellRaisers... 5 aim stars and these results, I dont think coach would make THAT big difference.
2014-08-19 21:01
I don't see Kucher as a mad-aimer... imo mad-aimers are like GTR, f0rest, friberg, shox, olof, dennis, krimz, jw, flusha, n0thing, hiko, flamie, device, dupreeh, dosia, apex, Edward, GuardiaN, seized, NBK, ScreaM, pasha, etc
2014-08-19 21:09
#94
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
kucher was the best from HR a few tournaments ago by far though lel
2014-08-19 21:10
#278
Denmark 3k2 
Their biggest issue is that they somehow thought it was a non-terrible idea to not practice against good teams, so noone would know their strats :P
2014-08-20 12:17
You still need an IGL. You could do away with "support" players, though.
2014-08-19 21:18
yeah, who needs flashs, smokes, molotovs, he's, deflections and refrags... totally overvalued.
2014-08-19 21:52
Yeah... Because pro teams need dedicated flashers because they are incapable of throwing them themselves. You are right.
2014-08-19 22:10
a team needs certain roles to be played. and someone throwing flashs for their mates when they attack, when they retreat etc. is mandatory. doesn't need to be the same person who plays support, but the role needs to be filled.
2014-08-19 22:26
Voila, you got it.
2014-08-19 22:31
but did you?
2014-08-19 22:36
based on my experience, usually the star players are also capable of throwing the occasional flashbang and smoke grenade. generally you don't need a player who can only do that.
2014-08-20 08:08
So you think Friber was able to do this without a flash? Maybe, but way easier kill flashed enemies. youtube.com/watch?v=tIxnwIfRm1A How you expect him getting good K/D when he is taking fight without flashes and help like he does to friberg and f0rest? Also he is normaly covering a position being pasive, and in CS:GO they guys that pick have an advantage. I think you dont understand this, and I know you are more experience player I ever will be, but you are missing it, just look at Hellraisers 5 aim stars.
2014-08-20 16:39
i won't even comment on that. this is now getting out of hand.
2014-08-20 16:36
His role is cover angles and that, the others go for frags, after this 2 years sure the guys that go for kills get experience and get better. If they pick other better and say him to cover angles all games while f0rest, friberg and get_right go for kills, sure this aim start will lose skill with time. I don't comment more also, maybe I'm wrong, I said you are more experience player.
2014-08-20 16:44
Nice read, totally agree with the bo3 groups, at least for the decider matches
2014-08-19 20:59
Pls hltv moviemaker make highlights for ESL Cologne
2014-08-19 21:00
someone is already working on it
2014-08-20 08:09
#84
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Ukraine AnatolijNook 
I was waiting for the article and like it, thanks a lot.
2014-08-19 21:00
Martin was his usual self, and Kory "semphis" Friesen proved he can lead a team successfully -- something that should've never been doubted by anyone aware of how seriously he's always taken Counter-Strike. slurp slurp. keep diving Johansson likely isn't going anywhere - they did win a major after all - but if he has any plans of retiring, now would be the perfect time. He'd go out at the top of the game, having won the biggest tournament there is. It's also worth pointing out that he'd make for a terrific coach. He knows everything there is to know about NiP, their playing style, and what works for them. There is no reason to change right now, but if they had any plans of doing it in the future, now would be the best time for Johansson's legacy. haha I knew it before even reading. On the other hand how much asses you've kissed to get into DHW ? :( I mean that moustache was kinda obvious prove of 'a lot'
2014-08-19 21:04
Good job kurppiss
2014-08-19 21:07
Why does shox the best? Because gtr and f0rest are fatties, but shox is skilled and handsome.
2014-08-19 21:07
Major at DHW14 would have been nice.
2014-08-19 21:07
yep. I'm pretty sure dhw will be major.
2014-08-19 21:15
shox top 1
2014-08-19 21:12
#102
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
"Valve make money from every transaction in the Steam market." this isn't exactly true. all of the money that circulates the market is virtual. the only 'real' money that valve receive is from people depositing funds to their steam wallet. the valve profits end there and that apparent value just becomes steam 'credits' which isn't real money. the 'cuts' that are taken when you sell an item in the market is just market management. it's in place to stop people swimming in money and the market items value spiraling out of control. same as how blizzard has items in their world of warcraft auction house receive seller cuts when sold.
2014-08-19 21:13
I'm sorry but are you retarded? How did the money in the steam wallets got there in the first place? Money got there, and %15 of it disappears when a transaction happens.This %15 goes directly to valve. If people decide to use the money in CS:GO,DOTA 2 or TF2, %100 of it goes to valve. If you buy any other game from steam store, %40 of it goes to valve. But it IS real money, it hasn't got there by magic.
2014-08-19 21:56
where do you think the circulating virtual money came from? also your last paragraph about the cuts is just plain, well, i dont even know what to say about that...
2014-08-19 21:57
He's true since buying CS:GO on steam market is also a part of their profit among others.
2014-08-19 22:28
#103
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Poland dijef 
I really didn't like the fact the random map was decider. We all know how each map affects individual teams performance. Even if that is five times inferno, but it gets 16-14 or overtime it gives much more emotions. I think Valve doesn't understand cs is an e-sport game where complicated graphics of maps shouldn't take place. Looking at cbble and colours it is hard to spot terrorist I thought like I play call of duty. CS have this magic most other games don't; it is great despite years and they should follow blizzard way. both d3 and sc2 in my opinion were much better continuations that cs:go from 1.6 (source doesn't count).
2014-08-19 21:13
most bw and diablo fans would strongly disagree :p
2014-08-19 23:26
#260
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Poland dijef 
I didn't say, sc2 or d3 were better than previous versions as that is subjective. I said that they did better job in continuation than cs1.6 to cs:go
2014-08-20 10:28
I learned that betting isn't cool...
2014-08-19 21:20
so lurppis in hes tweets says he doesnt like when commentators shout player names and not nicknames, but writes articles using most of players last names. Cobblestone I like, but the problem for me is that CT can sit in that ladder room in mid and Ts cant do anything about it, talking about fxy0 knife against HR or dignitas I think it was? and of course forest against fnatic in the final, seems a bit shit to me, so maybe they could add a connector to that room from T toilets or something, so Ts could rotate faster between bombsites.
2014-08-19 21:24
I agree, the author using last names exclusively made me look up their names all the time and for some I still don't know who was meant. He should have at least used full names plus nickname. Regarding cobblestone I want to add that the whole approach towards A is too ct favored. you need some pretty good smokes to make a somewhat safe entry to the site and any counter smoke can completely shut that down. The drop allows for some nice A split play though, and your suggestion to do something about ladder room, even though it's a trademark of cobblestone, is something to think about. Another entrance would however make ct plays at bottom of ladder kind of impossible. Maybe the ladder needs to be shifted, or the room changed, so that a player can't hide there as efficiently.
2014-08-19 22:11
I'm pretty sure this is the way it's done throughout HLTV and not only used by Lurppis. I agree it makes it more difficult to read, but I don't think it's his choice to do so. Simply a policy.
2014-08-20 03:22
#195
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
cbble is a mess from the beggining to the end,it cant be fixed with any conectors or anything else its just a bad plain map with a bad ideal behind it cut the map by 50% and maybe it can start to be playable
2014-08-19 23:27
bad for some, ok for others. Im really tired of all the dust2s and infernos
2014-08-20 00:13
cbble is great
2014-08-20 13:26
we learnt that c9<ibp and nip how bad their doing they always finds a way to win
2014-08-19 21:23
why do I keep reading i BUY PLANET ICKETS
2014-08-19 21:25
good work as always lurppis.
2014-08-19 21:31
#119
lamp | 
Russia lamp` 
good read! also hellraisers had a coach on this lan i guess, it was valentinich
2014-08-19 21:46
Shox is way too inconsistent to be considered #1 or even #2, , he does not step up when his team is down and this applies for both Titan and Epsilon, something GTR AND FRIBRG both do, he is the most complete player (no doubt) but not the best
2014-08-19 21:48
how is he inconsistent, he is one of the most consistent on lan...
2014-08-19 21:50
flusha best, fuck the rest.
2014-08-19 21:55
No real articles for LDLC, ridiculus.
2014-08-19 21:58
nice read
2014-08-19 22:04
Kenny "kennyS" Scrub Kappa
2014-08-19 22:05
#154
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Germany lpSykl 
"Johansson likely isn't going anywhere - they did win a major after all - but if he has any plans of retiring, now would be the perfect time." ... F*CK YOU F*CK YOU F*CK YOU THE GAME IS ABOUT TEAMPLAY AND NOT ONLY ABOUT NUMBERS!!! AGAIN F*CK YOU ..but anyway .. you will never give up.
2014-08-19 22:14
NICE MISTAKE LURPPIS "He finished with a rating of 1.11, and was a huge reason Virtus almost beat LDLC on de_dust2" PS: LDLC beat Virtus.pro 2-0 :D , they didin't take a map at all :p
2014-08-19 22:16
you are almost right :)
2014-08-19 22:18
#159
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Germany lpSykl 
*almost*
2014-08-19 22:19
"He finished with a rating of 1.11, and was a huge reason Virtus almost beat LDLC on de_dust2" Its not mistake, it was 16:14, and on 15:14 kqly have lucky (amazing shot) and won round on 1v1. VP lead almost whole time on dd2, so yeah, they almost beat LDLC ON DE_DD2, mirage is other story.
2014-08-20 02:27
.... they beat them 2-0 , did you follow ESL? and did you understand the sentence?
2014-08-20 02:51
I guess you didnt unterstand, since lurppis didnt wrote anything bad.
2014-08-20 02:54
dude he sais VP won LDLC on DD2 ? what's wrong with you? they didin't win them KQLY took the final round by killing pash on 1v1....
2014-08-20 03:00
Do you know what word ALMOST means?
2014-08-20 03:02
Trying so hard not to facepalm right now
2014-08-20 03:25
never go full retard
2014-08-20 11:43
lol GO TO SCHOOL
2014-08-21 00:18
#263
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Poland dijef 
He means that apex was making those entry kills and mid round kills that were deciding about who will take a round. I think his was extremaly well prepared for VP as he knew them all.
2014-08-20 10:52
I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed watching the overpass games. Getting rid of the house on A, and the sand bag boost spots seems to be a good idea though.
2014-08-19 22:16
Great article. Looking forward to the post-starseries world rankings list, particularly who you will rank #2-#4, and where you will place Cloud9. I don't follow dota2, does that game have "majors" outside of The International? I'm wondering what would make CSGO more sustainable; I think 4 majors a year (tennis pro circuit style) is better than one annual big tournament.
2014-08-19 22:20
i reckon a set number of majors, be it 3 or 4, would be the best setup -- with plenty of smaller tournaments and leagues in between.
2014-08-19 22:29
#189
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Germany lpSykl 
That'd be great ... Also Bo3 groups HAVE TO come imo. . But could you please explain me why Fifflaren should quit? There is more to a team than your numbers (maybe you dont have friends, i dont know) They are a team! Friberg would not play w/o Fifflaren. Also he is kind of a half igl. NiP played together for such a long time, It's hard and not easy to simply change the team. It would take another 2 years to be on this level again.
2014-08-19 23:13
if nip's gm said fifflaren is cut, friberg would not quit his career. therefore he would play without fifflaren, even if he'd prefer not to. besides, it's f0rest who is fifflaren's best friend on the team, afaik. fifflaren is not "half in-game leader". he has tried calling a few times and every time nip has instantly switched back to xizt. it would take them another two years to have this much chemistry -- but having five players who are legitimately good at counter-strike would easily offset that, i reckon. he doesn't need to quit by any means, but as a fan of the game it's frustrating to know we're looking at potentially the greatest team cs:go will ever have, and see the players waste what's left of their primes on a sub-optimal roster. edit: as far as changing rosters go, i understand nip -- i also never wanted to make roster changes. however, when other players on the team sort of forced them, they almost always made us better.
2014-08-20 07:55
#296
Vietnam N4M 
Honestly, if NiP ever introduced a fantastic awper to the team. They'd be one hell of a force to be reckoned with.
2014-08-20 14:09
#335
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Europe skelteR 
I'm really curios what is your opinion on Xizt as IGL, if you want to respond, please.
2014-08-20 21:28
#340
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Germany lpSykl 
Fifflaren, and the others aswell, are also talking about what starts to use while ingame. He was a IGL all CS:S. And having a all allstar team never worked and will never work - in no sport there is. Its a team game, and in CS a team is more important than in any other (E-)sport. And still it doesnt matter what we are talking here, because they are all old enough to make their own decisions...
2014-08-20 22:37
Why cant you explain yourself instead of coming off as a jerk on twitter :(
2014-08-21 14:58
140 characters
2014-08-21 16:15
ESL One New York when? we haven't had a real tournament here since IEM 2011
2014-08-19 22:41
because of Obama :(
2014-08-20 03:03
"ESL One New York when?" Very nicy inglis muricano..
2014-08-20 06:14
don't like your tweets :D but this was seriously a great read, very well put together and lots of information backed up by numbers or explanaitons. great article!
2014-08-19 22:42
#179
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
Good read. I like how all the diehard NiP/Fifflaren fans continue being delusional, though I wouldn't go as far as to recommend him to retire right away (as much as it is a good idea).
2014-08-19 22:44
#185
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Germany lpSykl 
NiP should realy kick Fifflaren.. Well they are the best team in the world, they need a new lineup! not sure if dump or stupid ... maybe just trolling
2014-08-19 23:07
#233
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
They're not the best team in the world. NiP got destroyed by Epsilon, nearly lost to Cloud9, a team whose core players (in coL) they could easily 2-0 back when they were actually "the best team", and struggled versus fnatic. Not to mention they crashed out to 2 recent LANs and choked on the finals of both previous majors and failed to place first. They also never faced Titan, Dignitas, or VP in the tournament. They were carried like crazy by GTR (and f0rest somewhat) in the final and his performance allowed NiP to win over both LDLC and fnatic. Arguably the other players of NiP made very important plays that allowed them to win, but 1. Doesn't mean other Swedish players couldn't have done the same, if not better, and 2. Assuming any new players get along and team chemistry works out there doesn't seem to be any downside to getting a player that can actually hit his AWP shots or frag at least consistently, unlike what Fifflaren is doing. Like you said, there's no reason to kick Fifflaren, but it's NiP's loss if they have a player who can neither do his job as a support player nor as an AWPer. By the way, forcing f0rest to AWP since nobody else in NiP can would cause them to lose a very consistent and good rifler. Even if he can AWP he can't beat the likes of GuardiaN, kennyS, etc. consistently because it's not his normal role. And yes, we shouldn't be looking at stats alone, but it is a huge factor in how well/poorly he played. 145-217, with 16 frags not with pistol or rifles. Nothing above a 3K in a round. If all he can do is throw a flashbang and smoke before dying in 209 of his 314 played rounds, it'd be logical to conclude many people can do better than he did, even in his position on the team. Stats source: hltv.org/?pageid=173&playerid=7147&event..
2014-08-20 03:57
shut up genius
2014-08-20 08:43
#261
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
Hi, Please shut the fuck up if you have no arguments or evidence to back up your statements.
2014-08-20 10:30
How can you even say NiP is not the best in the world when they were in the finals of all the mayors played in cs:go.
2014-08-20 12:46
#336
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
Best == 1st. Choking every final up until now != 1st != best.
2014-08-20 22:15
8.5/10, great read, and got all the NiP fanboiz salty over nothing
2014-08-19 23:04
you dont need to nerf down cz75 and scout , just stop bitching about them and learn to play with them or make new strats to beat them in those duels And dont be so harsh on fiffy, he has low KD yeah but when it needed he manages to go big , for example in inferno vs fnatic when score was 12:11 i think , and if fiffy would get those 3 kills and fnatic won that round that they would propably win map and tournament And on G3 article you said NiP are not number 1 team and on this article you said NiP is the best team ever , that means you are saying this becouse of the tournament not owerall
2014-08-19 23:22
#193
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
so the best teams didnt figure out how to play against czs for several months now,maybe you could make a nice insight about how to then?LOL
2014-08-19 23:25
#267
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Poland dijef 
cz75 is overpowered. kevlar + cz75 and always a kill in close distance. it seems better than ak or m4. Did you see n0thing (I think he) from complexity kills on VP in esea finals this year? He took down two of them using single spray making body hits.
2014-08-20 11:09
"[...] it's hard to complain about multiple $250,000 tournaments year." If you purely look at the fact that Valve are pouring $250.000 in to CS:GO tournaments 3-4 times a year, it seems pretty good. If you take in to consideration the incredibly vast amount of money Valve actually profit from CS:GO, it shouldn't hurt their budget thatmuch simply making it, say $500.000 per tournament or possibly $1.000.000. Still, it's a start, and with the viewership and the rate in which the game is growing, it should be quite realistic to see Valve upping their game.
2014-08-19 23:14
Nice work, Lurppis.
2014-08-19 23:16
CSGO group stage should either be a full 16 teams...each team playing each other once. ( LIke Dota TI) or Groups of 8
2014-08-19 23:28
Good read
2014-08-19 23:28
I think the new maps and veto system helped NIP a lot this tournament
2014-08-19 23:31
That lurppis is a whiny little bitch.
2014-08-19 23:49
I think this article just makes a good point on why Fifflaren should not leave NiP. Look at Titan, they replaced shox with KennyS, who is statistically better than shox, and the team has been performing worse with him, and his impact on the team dynamics has apparently been negative. Other players formerly regarded as "super starts" seem to be fading, and this should not be taken lightly. Yes, Fifflaren is statistically worse than his teammates, but he's just as much part of the best cs:go team in history as any of the others. It would be nonsense to change a winning team.
2014-08-19 23:59
kennyS was not statistically better than shox when he was recruited, he's only surpassed him now. their difference in rating was 0.03 at its highest i believe. sure, replacing fifflaren with a players whose rating is 0.99 likely wouldn't make a difference, but how about someone who is in the 1.10+ range?
2014-08-20 08:17
well, I obviously understand your point of view but when they are still winning and obviously still #1 I would say the risk of losing whatever team dynamic they have is not worth the change. If they were facing a situation like Titan (or even HR imo) then I would see it as something more likely to happen. I'm sure you're right about the shox/KennyS stats, but I'd say that whatever they gained with KennyS is probably not compensated with what they lost in the other players. Sure there are lots of reasons why that may have happened and many of them will have nothing to do with KennyS, but just out of curiosity, I would like to see the net balance in the total team player ratings in Titan after KennyS came along. My guess is that it will be that KennyS increased by something (let's say 0.03), and the sum of the decreases in the others is more than that. Also, with the current rating formula, if you added a 1.20+ player in NiP wouldn't that make the others lose stats? (by getting less frags, for instance) - even if the team performed better as a whole.
2014-08-20 19:24
yes, titan a lost a ton in the change -- in fact, they lost the world's most complete player. let's stop right here -- i will not compare shox to fifflaren. if the team became super dominant, it would be possible to keep up those stats -- that's why f0rest and get_right (and the rest of the team) have such insane stats, because they went 87-0 -- thus inflating their stats by a ton as winning means no ecos, etc.
2014-08-20 19:49
nice work as usual, lurppis.
2014-08-20 00:03
#202
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Denmark jjh 
nice read
2014-08-20 00:07
#207
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Greece her-1g 
it would be cool if the majors acted like stops and the qualified top4 teams from each one of the to advance into a mega 1.000.000e tournament!
2014-08-20 00:38
I'm still waiting for lurpis's report on Fifflaren at ESL ONE, coming out anytime soon, bud?
2014-08-20 00:57
thank you for the article, good read :)
2014-08-20 01:01
For some reason I have a feeling flamie joins HR.... at some point one day, I guess HR losing SLTV finals (meaning they dont take the 1st place) would speed things up and flamie joins HR sooner rather than later, because if HR also lost @ SLTV then it will be fair to expect a poor performance during DH Winter with another 250k, so makinga line up change for HR should indeed take place before its too late... ...but based on ANGE1's short interview taken by HR's management right after their group exit ANGEL1 remained positive and said they know what to fix and what went wrong and confirmed no changes within the team and said the team will be back to preparing and will be ready for future events... RU interview ---> youtube.com/watch?v=7j13JOjB4nE&list=UUn.. Also No biggies @ their official VK page ---> vk.com/hrcsgo Team was taking pictures, having fun, enjoying their time... OFFICIAL PHOTO GALLERY OF HellRaisers during the event ---> vk.com/album-56601810_200650389 ...so we'll see.
2014-08-20 01:27
nice in depth article. id like to see more visual suggestions to improving the new maps. make a video pls hltv.
2014-08-20 01:54
"CS:GO actually topped LoL in terms of viewership" WHAT'S UP NOW LOL!Wooooooo
2014-08-20 03:08
spot on lurpy, w/e the fuck pita said to nip on cbble at the 3-7 pause... crazy
2014-08-20 05:39
flamie owns
2014-08-20 06:46
you talked about coach . But Ldlc got one and it was Moman . Back former 1.6 player then swith to SC2 professionally as one of top french sc2 player . he still enjoy playing cs , and this is the player who wanted him once again . He got a nice attitude &motivation to keep the team has his best performance they can deliver
2014-08-20 08:05
Really awesome article lurppis Much love <3
2014-08-20 08:59
such a biased article. Just because he doesn't like ibp he talks shit about them... pathetic
2014-08-20 09:16
i don't like ibp based on what? i'm very good friends with their manager whom i've known for about a decade, and friends with both dazed and swag.
2014-08-20 12:55
med
2014-08-20 15:11
Yeah, because calling them failures at international competition is not a factually backed opinion.
2014-08-20 16:11
#259
India pfx 
Lurppis such a teacher, kappa!
2014-08-20 10:05
n0thing
2014-08-20 10:53
-fifllaren +pita
2014-08-20 11:00
would make no difference anyway. NiP need someone much crazier as fragger.
2014-08-20 12:47
Not really. They already have three.
2014-08-20 13:47
why not four?
2014-08-20 17:20
because astana dragons
2014-08-22 03:00
Another great article, well done.
2014-08-20 11:45
what a good article ! good job lurppis
2014-08-20 11:52
That's lucky for hltv.org that they have lurppis as writer, not just because he is great with his knowledge but also he's spent much of his time replying to users. Great article, anyway
2014-08-20 12:44
Why lurppis did not mention about Virtus.pro fail? I want to see some kind of interview with G3 winners and IMO, big losers of the Cologne event!
2014-08-20 12:57
they simply got outplayed by a team peaking at the right time. not much of a story, in my opinion.
2014-08-20 13:53
maybe you're right, but i will be glad if I could see, what players from Virtus have to say about this ;)
2014-08-20 15:09
PS think something went wrong, they win G3 without preparation, bootcamp before Cologne and that performance on this event? Even when they play against "team peaking at right time" they should be stronger.
2014-08-20 20:37
sometimes 4-5 days of proper practice can be better than a week of bootcamp, if it keeps you super motivated and focused. maybe they overthought things and tried changing too much before cologne? who knows, but ldlc has beaten them online before, just not on lan.
2014-08-20 20:39
hm or maybe bootcamp just after one tournament and before next, without any rest isn't good idea. As i said before it would be nice if Virtus say something about this ( if u know what i mean :) ).
2014-08-20 23:20
-starix +flamie -Neo +MICHU -KennyS -Ex6tenz -SmithZz +KQLY +Happy +shox
2014-08-20 13:49
never count out nip thats what u learned
2014-08-20 15:17
HIKO IS LAIF
2014-08-20 17:03
Enough with the CZ talk, people prefer the CZ, it isn't necessarily better than the p250, good holds or smarter takes of sites with stronger weapons will always win over a cz/armor/no armor buy, you would see the same thing with 5, p250's but the majority of players preference is the cz it's as simple as that. Also I'd just like to add if the CZ ever got nerfed further than it already has it would more than likely not be used at all, we saw the heavy nerf to the aug that was commonly being used, VALVe claimed to of balanced it but really it just got nerfed back into non existence, that's not balance, that's murder of a weapon.
2014-08-20 17:29
#338
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
cz was nerf was a minor nerf just because it is a nerf doesnt mean it was significant..
2014-08-20 22:23
yea and like cz + armor being eco autowins is normal in csgo. well, of course it is, otherwise it wouldn't be csgo.
2014-08-22 03:02
it's funny the best map is d2 (the map that resembles the most of 1.6 version of the map) inf is really darn bad compared to 1.6 inf (used to be the best map in the game), nuke too fails. overpass and cbble are quite horrible both. even mirage is fucked up. cache is fine i think. they should add tuscan (as similar as possible 1.6 version of the map)
2014-08-20 17:55
Longer and better then my :/ Teach me, senpai! Btw, i would like if you can help me with commands to put player name (and when people put mouse on name that can show stats), and other stuffs, so i can improve my blogs. I hope that you will respond
2014-08-20 18:06
#Lurppis
2014-08-20 18:34
already replied in pm but in case someone else is curious too: it can't be done on the forums or in blogs.
2014-08-21 08:17
Yeah, i comment here first, since i didnt know will you see it. Ty again :)
2014-08-21 08:28
Now you know how I felt all these years about the cheating accusations. People whining about stupid shit with no basis just makes you want to own them even more.
2014-08-26 21:17
I didn't like how they did the group stages...
2014-08-20 18:03
I can understand why there arent lc, wolf, vox and dat teams stats, but where is HR and iBP? Meanwhile CPH and Titans stats are included. And im not talking about this article onpy, but general in event page too.
2014-08-20 18:06
NICE REVIEW. THANKS!
2014-08-20 18:19
From Katovice and after Cologne nothing has changed in the system so do not expect miracles again. This time it was even worse than Katowice when the maps where played randomly
2014-08-20 20:25
CLOUD 9 FOR LYFE
2014-08-20 22:21
NiP good but mouz best
2014-08-20 22:35
WTF :D How anyone can say that 3 NIP players "underperformed", when they just won a major? There must be true professionals writing these things @ hltv. First of all, this is a team game. There are many different roles, and in these roles you can't necessary get as many kills than others in same team. It doesn't mean that it's under performing. Many times the one who scored less, can still be the most valuable player in that match. It's all about to WIN-THE-RIGHT-GAMES. You go as a team and you win as a team. It is just useless to compare players IN SAME team, because they are working at together and just want to win. NIP did great, and they are the true champions. Everyone in NIP are MVP. No one under performed.
2014-08-21 10:15
NiP did underperform idk what tournament you wwere watching but they struggled alot. And he is saying they underperformed based on their overall stats and this tournaments stats idk whats so hard to understand.
2014-08-21 15:01
Nice read. What do you think about Overground ? It has a much more similar A-mid-B setup and is definitely a nice map to play on IMO. Why cobblestone over this map?
2014-08-21 11:13
Best way to fix overpass is to simply remove it.
2014-08-21 12:49
a great read i feel like the only part that can be left out was the fifflaren part it didnt seem like it had a place in the article.
2014-08-21 14:59
#356
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Iceland fatboislim 
muricans underperforming? or we are just seeing their real level?
2014-08-21 20:41
good read. thanks for not stating "GTR BEST pLAYER IN THE WOOOOOORLD"......he's clearly not.
2014-08-21 21:03
he is , u idiot hahaha
2014-08-22 02:35
#371
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0 
shox best gtr 2 or 3
2014-08-23 12:35
awesome read
2014-08-22 13:17
that you shouldn't bet on titan
2014-08-24 11:30
You hate far to much on Fifflaren lurppis. Without Fifflaren NiP wouldn't have taken down Fnatic in the last game. Fifflaren is one of the most important pieces in the team and he is better than you will ever be on the game. Stop the jealousy already...
2014-08-24 22:15
good :)
2014-08-27 19:36
C9 > iBP? lol. fkn lurppis strikes again
2014-08-31 15:56
Good read. :)
2014-09-02 16:38
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