ESEA addresses betting

In an effort to "uphold the integrity of the league," ESEA have implemented a new policy, banning players, managers, and sponsors from placing wagers on games they are involved or have a stake in.

The new policy, which has already come into effect, comes off the back of a recent wave of allegations that players and teams involved in CEVO's professional league were choosing to, or were asked to, alter the outcome of matches in order for clued-in parties to profit from bets placed on said matches.

ESEA League's rules now state that:

"If a player, team manager, or team sponsor is found betting on their own match, regardless of their bet placement, the league match will be overturned and the offending player, team manager, or team organization that placed the bet will be banned for a calendar year. This also encompasses placing bets with a secondary account or through a third party."

This isn't the first time an organisation has been forced to instigate new rules, or amend old ones, to prevent this kind of behaviour, and with the growing ubiquity of betting in competitive Counter-Strike, you can most certainly expect other leagues and tournament organisers will introduce similar rules to combat match-fixing in the future.

#1
neeve | 
Portugal neeve 
Just give your items to someone else and they'll bet... Easy!
2014-09-10 15:58
This also encompasses placing bets with a secondary account or through a third party."
2014-09-10 16:00
and how can they prove that bro? That were my items and i won the bet so i decided to share some of the items with my friend ( "The suspect" )...i can't share items nowdays ? XD Look at hiko,half of his items are not even his items...but items borrow'd from a dude
2014-09-10 16:02
his karambit doe xD
2014-09-10 16:52
PASHA SO MAD!!!! MWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
2014-09-11 15:46
The issue isn't getting caught by ESEA but having that person who bet your skins essentially blackmail you or just record the info and reporting it in
2014-09-10 17:23
ye but it's soo hard to prove it dude,you need SOLID evidence,kinda hard to get online,any SS/Video can be edited\fake and so on
2014-09-10 17:25
thats why rl friends exist lel
2014-09-10 21:56
Ever heard of REAL LIFE friends?
2014-09-11 08:26
Easy, 1 day before he has some guns, then on match day, u don't have those anymore at your inventory, after the match or next day, u have your own items and bunch of new ones ... Plus ESEA should work with VALVE in tracking trades if they want really to catch someone who is throwing a match for a bet ... (P.S. VALVE tracks trades, have 1st hand expierence :P) In my opinion beting is destroying competitive scene, because of them matches are thrown and DDOS attacks comes from those who bet a lot and want someone spesific to win ...
2014-09-10 17:25
and you think they are so stupid to give the items 1day before match and get them right after ? xD they can keep them for 2 weeks or even more ...the profit is still there,weapon value won't go to 0 within weeks :)
2014-09-10 17:27
"Easy, 1 day before he has some guns, then on match day, u don't have those anymore at your inventory, after the match or next day, u have your own items and bunch of new ones ..." Laughed hard reading this, thanks. You clearly got no idea how this world works and people aren't that stupid to perform those transactions just before their game. It's not hard at all to get second account, send items through 5-6 accounts to finally put them there...
2014-09-10 17:54
#107
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Portugal antCB 
"i sold all my inventory, i really needed the money". "oh, i have all those items from donations from my stream :) "
2014-09-10 18:16
I don't think these pro players care about the inventory... that's micro transactions and personally they can't make big bank on that. This is strictly money wagering... which is huge.
2014-09-11 04:29
#149
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Portugal antCB 
Oh sure, that's why Virtus Pro and some former LDLC players did what they did with the recorded match bets....
2014-09-11 20:05
Ok but money wagering is what people do on a higher scale buddy... No one cares about skins newfag.
2014-09-12 13:16
#154
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Portugal antCB 
go call newfag to your deceased cunt of a grandmother. you're not giving me any news, but your fellow COUNTRYMEN and Frenchmen surely did it for some extra $kin$. which you can exchange for keys, keys that you can exchange for real money, newfag
2014-09-12 15:55
I guess they are talking manly about hard cash bets.
2014-09-10 18:33
You are talking about skin betting. How about "real money" betting? Pro to IRL friend: Hey, take this 50€ and bet them on the other team. IRL friend: Ok. [Pro's team throw and loose] IRL friend: Thanks, here's your part. *gives 80€ to pro*
2014-09-10 18:54
Yea but he said that he didnt bet and he wont bet on any match.
2014-09-10 17:26
ofcourse,he has no items at all...how can you bet with friend items?
2014-09-10 17:28
... really? you are that stupid? He dont want it because of his religion. And your religion forbid you to bet.
2014-09-11 02:05
k
2014-09-11 10:04
#155
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Portugal antCB 
?
2014-09-12 22:54
#90
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
every transaction can be found. ;)
2014-09-10 17:46
It's may be hard to prove but it's supposed to deter them. More like, do you really want to take the risk?
2014-09-10 23:37
But that is pretty hard to check.
2014-09-10 16:02
LoL guys wtf? neeve is completely right. If you are a PRO player, you have for sure some reallife friends. Is it that hard to tell him "Hey Bet everything on my team, I will send you an awp from my inventory and you place it with your account." There is nothing illegal there ;-)
2014-09-10 16:15
There is nothing illegal there ;-) On the contrary: it is illegal, but hard to prove/catch.
2014-09-10 16:48
Lol that is the most obvious example. If he sends someone an awp and they place it on a 90-10 odds game and pull the upset, and then transfer some winnings back to the pro, i'm sorry but that is the most blatant case of match fixing and warrants a ban.
2014-09-10 17:14
There is no possible way they can find out if someone is betting on a second account/from a friend/etc. The only possible way would be if Valve were to break the law and give away the persons CC number, IP, and other ways but there's also pre-paid credit cards as well, and yeah. Or the persons friend is a scumbag and "rats" them out, easiest way to handle that is to NOT tell anyone you're betting.
2014-09-10 18:33
Love how you label the hypothetical whistleblower as a "scumbag" for exposing potential match fixing.
2014-09-10 19:18
I label him/her a scumbag because s/he's your friend, or supposed to be. Even if people were to throw for skins, there is no way to find out unless their friend rats them out, and the fix to that is telling nobody you bet.
2014-09-10 20:08
I'm still finding it really odd that you're putting a negative spin on people exposing 'professional' CS players who fix matches for money/skins as if they're the villains.
2014-09-10 20:33
Yeah, cause a player fixing a match for profit is not a scumbag. Rip logic.
2014-09-11 02:53
RIP reading skills
2014-09-11 03:28
I replied to the wrong post :) i agree with you dude
2014-09-12 02:53
+1
2014-09-10 21:02
no mention of casters, win!
2014-09-10 15:58
haha, nice. :D
2014-09-10 15:59
ez pz!!
2014-09-10 16:26
AndersKappa
2014-09-10 20:43
We all know you're part of it Anders you sneaky devil.
2014-09-10 15:59
KappaHD
2014-09-10 15:59
nice one man haha ;D
2014-09-10 15:59
wp bro
2014-09-10 16:01
lmao anders troll ;D
2014-09-10 16:08
GreyFace [nospace]
2014-09-10 16:10
hueheheheh anders :D
2014-09-10 16:11
#36
Frazehh | 
United Kingdom tomtmh 
please cast nip - ldlc tonight
2014-09-10 16:17
FaceIT's show to run!
2014-09-10 16:28
faceit's shit i remember your words "this channel will provide you a huge dose of counter strike bla bla" and now You cast caseking of the week and occasionally few matches and i have butthurt because of that :(
2014-09-10 16:41
We are working on that trust me, but we can't cast things we don't have the rights to =)
2014-09-10 16:43
#60
s0m | 
Latvia `DinGo 
btw Anders are you feeling better?
2014-09-10 16:48
anders is love,anders is lyfe!
2014-09-10 16:54
Go rogue, you need to watch "The Boat That Rocked" and take some pointers :D
2014-09-10 17:28
#39
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Finland NUCL3AR 
go for it
2014-09-10 16:19
Go nuts!
2014-09-10 16:23
ahah
2014-09-10 16:34
haha
2014-09-10 17:03
#98
Slovakia pgb1 
Anders king
2014-09-10 17:59
because they can't trow games :D
2014-09-10 18:26
n1
2014-09-10 15:58
old n5
2014-09-10 15:59
How do you ban a sponsor? xD
2014-09-10 15:59
#14
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Liechtenstein Chamele0n 
Probably not allowing them to use their name on a player name ex: "f0rest * Nike" etc.
2014-09-10 16:01
#26
United States koth 
Not allowing them to be put on the teams page
2014-09-10 16:09
the team sponsered can not take part of the tourney?!
2014-09-10 18:37
internet explorer?
2014-09-10 15:59
#13
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Belarus ALBiNh0 
who is that Faust guy btw?
2014-09-10 16:00
#20
Finland yahm 
GomeZ's IRL friend for sho ;D
2014-09-10 16:04
You are new here, aren't you? :)
2014-09-10 16:42
#56
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Belarus ALBiNh0 
reading since 2007/writing since 2010. so?
2014-09-10 16:44
Oh, my bad. You are still new, but I have mistaken that Faust guy with someone else who did a lot of writing back in the days ^^
2014-09-10 16:45
#59
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Belarus ALBiNh0 
i thought u're new before noticed ur id, now i doubt :) btw. i've just found my post dated 2009! am i oldschool now? :D
2014-09-10 16:58
#108
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Portugal antCB 
nah, not really :D
2014-09-10 18:18
#120
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Belarus ALBiNh0 
:((
2014-09-10 18:47
#122
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Portugal antCB 
\_/ an empty bucket for your creis :)
2014-09-10 18:54
Like this would ever be followed up on, there is NO way they can control a guy giving his irl friend 200dollars worth of skins and then making him bet against him to share the value.
2014-09-10 16:02
skins have ids so cslonge can track them
2014-09-10 16:05
Yes they can track them from who is trading them to who is receiving them from csgolounge, outside of that they have to access to it.
2014-09-10 16:09
valve can do outside so with coop with valve and cslounge esea can track those players who bet using 3rd party accs
2014-09-10 16:11
Then friend of proplayer "X" transfers his friend 200dollars on paypal, friend guy buys skins from steam market, friend bets them on the enemies from X's team because he know they will be throwing on purpose, friend wins 1000dollars transfers the skins to an unknown account that X has no contact with, then sells them for irl cash and transfers half the money won back to X on paypal. - what happens then?
2014-09-10 16:17
nothing.... If players want to trow a match they will and we can't do shit about it!
2014-09-10 16:19
Exactly my point, also alot of these matches are you able to bet on with irl cash through alot of different websites and real life stores, so this is never gonna last.
2014-09-10 16:20
then they deserve to win those money. so much effort should be rewarded. you are not 100% dannish, right? you are too smart so you must be an immigrant, right?
2014-09-10 16:29
What happens then? Valve/esea can see that player X is $500 richer after loosing a 90-10 odds game where they were favorites. Mighty sus, and all they have to do is investigate to find out why. /ban
2014-09-10 17:23
who the fuck would waste the time to investigate for just 500$. it's easier to post this crap and make the community believe esea will be legit with no throws from now on...
2014-09-10 18:00
Do you really think Valve give one single fuck about ESEA's rules? haha
2014-09-10 17:29
why so salty? cause uk sucks?
2014-09-10 17:55
here is NO way they can control a guy giving his irl friend 200dollars and buys him drugs. It's still not allowed. Think about it.
2014-09-10 18:08
Really i like it! +professionalism
2014-09-10 16:04
rip NiPs new manager who loves to bet xD
2014-09-10 16:08
Are you listening Shahzam??!! You untrustworthy, sneeky little punk.
2014-09-10 16:09
So what if they bet on their own team and then lose you are going to ban them also...lol
2014-09-10 16:10
right, like in football we need rules like this one
2014-09-10 16:33
#30
India 'sID 
yep but hold on to this tight we lost hell of items on those teams who throwed for skinz "(
2014-09-10 16:11
--- fixers know how to fix updates
2014-09-10 16:12
NO 322 ON ESEA?!REALLY?GJ ADMINS
2014-09-10 16:16
Taz ur fuck*d up now, one game you play with m4a4 without skins, next day ur playing with m4a4 asiimov stat p2000 ocean stat etc after the game vs overgaming, with 10 rushes a winning only one :DDDDDDDDDD
2014-09-10 16:18
#42
Dosia | 
Russia cann0n 
Lpkane mad cuz Cevo !
2014-09-10 16:24
this is good rules but there's always weakness in every aspect no matter what was that
2014-09-10 16:26
#47
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
Heeeeeeeey'a!
2014-09-10 16:30
Highly doubt its possible to stop players betting through 3rd parties, or on alt accounts using a proxy spoof. The value you can win on matches is too great. With all the skin donations the invite players get from fans, you would think they wouldn't need to place bets at all.
2014-09-10 16:35
Throw one game, win upwards of 5000 Euros.
2014-09-10 17:31
say what you like about ESEA's shady practices, but they are genuinely leading the way in organising cs:go tournaments properly. best veto system, map pool, bracket system and now this. good job, you bitcoin mining fucks.
2014-09-10 16:40
Until they get rid of weekly maps it will be watered down. Need to add knife rounds and bo3's! Teams should be prepared to play any map at any time. Can't believe they haven't done it yet.
2014-09-10 16:58
good..
2014-09-10 16:42
#58
arch | 
Ukraine arch 
i cant still understand logic, why cant u bet on yourself? if u r confident that u will win omg
2014-09-10 16:46
+10000000000000000000 this so much omG
2014-09-10 16:55
#67
Frazehh | 
United Kingdom tomtmh 
maybe some sneaky players will use wh for mass ammount of skins ? ^^ atleast with the 0 bet rule you definetly know there will be none of that
2014-09-10 16:59
For consistency i guess. Plus there are tons of other games you can bet on. Not betting on your own game is hardly an issue. Just wait for the next one and focus on fragging rather than "omg imma loose mah skinz"
2014-09-10 17:21
ESEA talking about upholding the "integrity of the league". What a joke.
2014-09-10 17:03
#70
Estonia 2026 
Hello Faust I guess. Have fun.
2014-09-10 17:06
Faust has beeen around for some time now actually, this is not the first post he has made :)
2014-09-10 19:09
Well lets say that I haven't been around that much lately.
2014-09-10 20:57
..
2014-09-10 17:08
Yeees Omg so the leagues are aware of throws. Hate that pro players even do this Shit. Too professional behaviour to bet against or for themselves. It's like football betting only in cs it was legal the whole time...
2014-09-10 17:09
#83
Estonia rYm 
I know a guy he knows a guy you will never find out izi money thaNKz
2014-09-10 17:29
Nobody will need their friends, proxy spoofed alt accounts would suffice, there's no regulations/authority to monitor activity, it's literally implausible (financially) for the organisations to track due to the constraints on them (e.g. ESEA). tl;dr - proxy spoof = bet
2014-09-10 17:33
#91
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
Not everybody can and knows how to do that. ;)
2014-09-10 17:47
Anyone who has fingers and google can probably find out.
2014-09-10 17:49
#95
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
There's a lot of lazy ass arround, not sure if they can do a search on google.
2014-09-10 17:50
#110
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Portugal antCB 
there's hundreds of free VPN services, as easy to setup as installing steam. It's as rhyss said, financially improbable they'll monitor that kind of activity thoroughly enough to detect "fraud".
2014-09-10 18:24
#87
Poland PR5 
Finally , I hope no more 322
2014-09-10 17:42
A good step forward
2014-09-10 17:46
#92
mason | 
Tunisia mason~ 
n1
2014-09-10 17:48
#94
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
What if you bet on opponent team and they win, you go whine to ESEA saying that you've bet on team that they won and they reverse the score... -.-
2014-09-10 17:49
gg skins , gg life
2014-09-10 18:00
ESEA you don't have any integrity regardless of your betting rules. don't kid youselves.
2014-09-10 18:02
Good move.
2014-09-10 18:03
Hello dazed Steel shahzam Jdm64 cutler Ps:rules wont change anything.. there is no way to control this.
2014-09-10 18:04
put your skins on your second account, then just say you got them from a donation. Unless trades start to get tracked in which case, cloud9 and ithrowpower gg
2014-09-10 18:08
#111
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Portugal antCB 
do you really think they'd ban the 2 teams that give them money? like literally, there has to be tons of fanboys paying ESEA subscriptions for a shot to play with their beloved pros..
2014-09-10 18:26
This won't work the players who are involved tell others what the outcome will be and they give them skins with trading.
2014-09-10 18:15
Watch everyone use smurfs to bet now
2014-09-10 18:24
i want all pros to pass polygraph test , fail the test cant play in the league \ lan
2014-09-10 18:27
This is definately needed if counterstrike is to be considered a serious esport. Honestly should've been implemented earlier, but better late than never.
2014-09-10 18:35
pasha biceps rip 1 year
2014-09-10 18:36
gg vp banned from esea Kappa
2014-09-10 18:38
Very n1, every leauge should do this
2014-09-10 18:50
lol this is so hard to test for. gl esea. commendable, but near impossible to enforce fully.
2014-09-10 19:18
What online leagues should do is not allowing betting at all on their online matches :). Also rigging bets no matter what their nature is, is a fraud and a FELONY in most of the western countries and offenders should be persecuted and face state law and not some idiotic online league scolding
2014-09-10 19:30
haha game over GuardiaN :D
2014-09-10 19:33
Game over virtus.throw
2014-09-10 19:45
Looking forward to follow this though :) good idea!
2014-09-10 20:59
good idea :)
2014-09-11 01:38
N1, this have to make every leauge & tournament
2014-09-11 01:42
nice
2014-09-11 21:02
Good move from ESEA
2014-09-12 15:37
cool
2014-09-13 17:35
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