LDLC file protest over fnatic boost

LDLC have filed a protest to the DreamHack Winter admins over the boost used by fnatic on de_overpass.

After losing the first half of the map 3-12, fnatic turned the score around in dramatic fashion as they used a boost never seen before in matches between professional teams.

Standing on top of a team-mate, Olof "⁠olofmeister⁠" Kajbjer could see almost the entire map and used this position not only to take down LDLC's players but also to anticipate the French team's attacks.

The issue was that the fnatic player who was giving the boost was seemingly standing on an invisble map ledge, which, if confirmed, is a violation of the tournament's "pixelwalking rules." The boost spot also apparently turns some walls invisible, as you can see from the second picture below.


The DreamHack admins are currently looking into the issue, and a decision is expected to be made in the next few hours.

HLTV.org knows that if they rule in favour of LDLC, the two teams will face each other again only tomorrow, before the first semi-final, between NiP and Virtus.pro (scheduled for 13:00 ). If this is the case, replaying just the second half or the entire map are possibilities.

Sweden Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1422
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
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NICE EDIT: It was 3-13 and should be resumed from there without being able to use the boost
2014-11-28 21:13
confirmed
2014-11-28 21:13
Fnatic should just be disqualified... reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2n..
2014-11-28 21:17
#392
mason | 
World PRQN
2014-11-28 21:29
2014-11-28 22:50
lol that was quick
2014-11-28 23:40
just DQ them already.
2014-11-28 21:30
and ban Flusha
2014-11-28 23:20
+1
2014-11-28 23:55
Why?
2014-11-29 04:50
RIP DREAMHACK HLTV #Confirmed
2014-11-28 22:20
2014-11-28 22:24
+1
2014-11-29 01:11
confirmed
2014-11-28 21:13
confirmed
2014-11-28 21:15
confirmed
2014-11-28 21:19
HLTV #Confirmed
2014-11-28 22:21
KQLI confirmed.
2014-11-28 23:20
i.imgur.com/5e2T6l6.jpg Its pretty damn sure its PIXELWALKING. Admins should do what rules says and disqualification Fnatic.
2014-11-28 21:20
if they don't.. this major will be csgo scenes biggest joke
2014-11-28 21:22
it already is mate, I mean, admins behind them, they break the rules and they keep the game going.... they had one job....
2014-11-28 21:25
ikr :/
2014-11-28 21:30
Admins can't interfere in that type of thing mid-game. It would be unfair. Incidents like this are why there is a formal protest. Of course if admins don't DQ fnatic after they have blatantly cheated with an illegal boost, then they've turned it into a joke.
2014-11-28 21:31
Isn't there a command you can use in game using sv_cheats 1 that lets you see these entities? I can't remember what it is.
2014-11-28 21:28
Check out this i.imgur.com/oCL6xxO.jpg EDIT: It seems I've fallen for a hoax, it doesn't look like it's a screen from the correct spot.
2014-11-28 21:56
this is fake !!! thats true i.imgur.com/ChKYgOC.png
2014-11-28 22:16
I edited 20 minutes before your post why you make me look like an idiot? :(
2014-11-28 22:25
2014-11-28 21:13
done fnatic go home!!
2014-11-28 21:14
done
2014-11-28 21:16
ty olof
2014-11-28 21:17
Done
2014-11-28 22:40
2014-11-28 22:46
gogogo everyone.. +1+1+11+1
2014-11-28 22:52
done
2014-11-28 23:18
done
2014-11-29 01:01
done bra
2014-11-29 01:09
Please tell me there will be a re-match. This was not fair and LDLC had this. & no I did not bet on any teams.
2014-11-28 21:14
No dude, i don't think so
2014-11-28 21:17
you dont need to beat to speak the truth mate.
2014-11-28 21:22
I bet on fnatic and think the same. This was disgrace and embarassing to watch. Never thought I can HATE CS team, but here we go... I hate fnatic.
2014-11-28 21:22
Same. I used to hate players. You know, like delpan I don't like him or kqly. But this. I think I hate fnatic lol i dont like to assume but I feel that top teams wouldn't play so cheaply.
2014-11-28 21:30
Should start again from half time on Overpass. Let's hope DHW see sense
2014-11-29 01:20
Or just kick them from event for not respecting the rules.
2014-11-28 21:14
This.
2014-11-28 21:16
+1 I would agree to that too
2014-11-28 21:21
No. Just no. Fnatic just spent a game viewing ldlc T setups from that boost. Just disqualify.
2014-11-28 21:14
COuldnt agree more, just watched exactly what LDLC try to do on T side. Would be unfair to still let them play on with this knowledge.
2014-11-28 21:27
yeah +1 to that really
2014-11-28 21:29
No it shouldnt be resumed from 3-13. They didnt do it one round, they did it like almost every round. they broke the rule over and over again. Fnatic should be DQ with no replay.
2014-11-28 21:14
Should actually be 14-3 according to DHW rules they lose the round in which the illegal action was commited
2014-11-28 21:14
then it should be like 26-3
2014-11-28 21:18
lolol
2014-11-28 21:20
+1
2014-11-28 21:52
then it's 16-3 because they used it every round
2014-11-28 21:19
They did this almost every round. Simply disqualify then completely
2014-11-28 21:19
Nop, they broke 2 rules for each time Olof went there: - 1 for skrimz floating - 1 for olof able to look trough invisible wall. So -2 round for each time they did it. 14-0 :)
2014-11-29 01:21
done
2014-11-28 21:15
Agreed. And I hope Fnatic get punished for this.
2014-11-28 21:16
#184
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France Lelib
+1111111
2014-11-28 21:16
+1
2014-11-28 21:16
2014-11-28 21:16
#284
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Europe duke`
ct was jumping, he could have heard it.
2014-11-28 21:20
+1
2014-11-28 22:06
Yep, when i hear someone jumping on the other side of the wall i also move me crosshair into this direction to be able to hear his teps easier. Just coincidence he ended up a bit on his head. Also this gif is meant to "proof" wallhack but thats Lan, theres no wallhack.
2014-11-28 23:24
no comment need except you're an idiot now how about discussing the actual topic
2014-11-28 23:28
lol! I doubt he was wallhack in a lan event!
2014-11-28 23:38
Saw this live and the CT was running in there for quite a while
2014-11-28 23:43
he could have looked into his teamate screen so he moved his mouse instantly
2014-11-28 23:58
Just watch the gif again after you read this: - aimlock targets CT's head with ONE movement - he looks back the door with TWO movements Just watch it over and over again. VACation pls.
2014-11-29 00:04
#220
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United States ferdog
He also did the boost in pistol round.
2014-11-28 21:17
they should be straight up disqualified, why would they get a second chance after breaking the rules. they knew about this for 2 months so they cannot even say they did not know it was pixelwalking.
2014-11-28 21:17
swedish admins, swedish event, I doubt they're going to DQ them immediately even though I hope they will do so..
2014-11-28 21:30
I want my skins >> !!@#!@!#@!# FUCK YOU FNATIC
2014-11-28 21:18
its not about the skins ;)
2014-11-28 21:22
you only bet with 0.5$ so fuck off
2014-11-28 21:23
Nice skins yoi got there
2014-11-28 23:25
Allowing Fnatic to just replay the half having cheated just says that if you cheat, the worst thing that will happen to you is they will not lose anything. Titan and Epsilon had 8 people combined who were hit by someone else cheating. The whole fnatic team was complicit in cheating, so they should be dq'd
2014-11-28 21:18
That's an interesting point. There is a difference between cheating and a map exploit. But dam, this exploit is better than wall hacking and botting lol. Two teams got booted for having one hacker while the entire fnatic team used a pixel boost to basically give them God mode.
2014-11-28 21:32
I'm still waiting to see what the boost looks like with wireframe on, but that IS a good point. Would be a huge smack to the face of fans if a Swedish event lets the home team get a pass.
2014-11-28 23:43
I agree.
2014-11-28 21:18
+1 hope fnatic gets 16-3'd if replay
2014-11-28 21:19
Fnatic should have read the rules, imo they are not allowed to get a second chance.. DQ and let LDLC trough
2014-11-28 21:18
swedish admins, swedish event, I doubt they're going to DQ them immediately even though I hope they will do so..
2014-11-28 21:30
They have to, its an official rule.
2014-11-28 21:36
+1 on the edit
2014-11-28 21:19
12:3, just restart with first half score.
2014-11-28 21:20
nice idea
2014-11-28 21:22
good design never respect fnatic as org .. they showed to much disrespect in their history 1) 2012 CPH games ( Navi should go trough ) but fnatic after spoken with admins go over Navi from group stage 2) LAN fnatic- Nip Fnatic refused to handshake after match
2014-11-28 21:23
why would they even consider a replay? they should DQ fnatic, they knew about this for 2 months, and they probably should know it was against the rules there should be no mercy for such behavior
2014-11-28 21:30
swedish admins, swedish event, I doubt they're going to DQ them immediately even though I hope they will do so..
2014-11-28 21:29
#433
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World Buick
It is Valve's constant responsibility to ensure a quality product and a well made map that is fair to play on. Fnatic used in game mechanics to do a boost that any brand new PC and steam user could do themselves. Every act is an exploitation of in-game mechanics; this is no different. I've seen a video of a 3 man boost on short on de_dust2 in 1.6 during league play, along with multiple other insane exploitations of game mechanics in 1.6. Finding these boost spots is a part of what 1.6 was about, and it remains to an extent in CS:GO, as Valve is constantly finding and reducing these OP boost spots. Obviously, they are unintended. I don't think that boost spot was intended or will last long, but Fnatic did use what was available to them. At the end of the day, the fact that they weren't suspended in mid-air or clipping, but using the physical surroundings of people and a ledge, makes it legit to use. Is it simply understood that there are no more awesome spots to find and use? In any other "Major-League" real world anything, when people exploit these rules they get away with it because they have the letter of the law on their side; there is no rule against what Fnatic but it is borderline 'unsportsmanlike'.
2014-11-28 21:37
You do realize that pixel boosting is illegal and there is clear evidence that this was a pixel boost, right? Has nothing to do with out smarting your opponents, you literally broke tournament rules lol
2014-11-28 21:36
#457
 | 
World Buick
plz show pic or post video... thought olof was on top of someone who was on a small ledge
2014-11-28 21:37
There is no ledge, check all the screenshots down in the comments, they're everywhere. EDIT: i.imgur.com/AROrw0u.jpg i.imgur.com/78eRmsE.jpg
2014-11-28 21:41
If u watched the game you would know that there is a ledge on the boosters perspective, in his screem he is standing on it but to others it look like that
2014-11-29 08:06
Not sure how many times one must say this.. yes, there is a visible ledge for the viewers and the players, but there is no actual ledge if you see the map in hammer (map editing tool) which means that's pixelwalking, because there is no ledge.. that's also why these retarded admins said pixelwalking is allowed @DHW14
2014-11-29 11:00
There's a big BUT here, it's not about unsportsmanlike or being totally unfair (even though they are complete dicks for using such boosts in a major), it's about the DH rules they are infringing (pixelwalking). That was a position he should never have been able to reach, he could see every single spot of the map, he could see where they're heading, what they're trying to do and where the attack is coming obviously, a very clean and easy half would come out of that. A disqualification would be the right decision here.
2014-11-28 21:39
#476
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World Buick
I agree that if pixel walking was used, and was already banned in the rules, that Fnatic should be handed the loss. No one is going to set up their economy and the whole game to the score they had before the boost to resume where they left off. I have never seen anyone do that and I dont think Valve realistically has that ability. Plus its a waste of time and makes them no money.
2014-11-28 21:42
let's hope so really, I'm really excited to see what the admins decide
2014-11-28 21:52
They violated DH rules not Valves. Stop defending them flusha's brother.
2014-11-28 22:25
and back skins PLS
2014-11-28 21:40
pbs.twimg.com/media/B3jklNhCUAAm9FX.jpg:.. - another case of pixelwalking
2014-11-28 21:56
+1. I dont understand those people who are trying to defend fnatic. I am a neutral, im not a fan of LDLC or Fnatic. I just want it to be fair. And that boost is against 1 rule. If you do something against the rules, then you should get a penalty which means replay from 13-3. It doesnt matter if u know about that its not okay to use, you still did it. Rules should be followed, not broken.
2014-11-28 22:04
replay isnt a penalty :d
2014-11-28 22:19
just disKQLYfy SHITNATIC
2014-11-28 22:07
yes this is the only answer
2014-11-28 22:09
dont resumed, 1 full map replay is better
2014-11-28 22:09
youtube.com/watch?v=1Oyvb8Pr3ZI check the date, and valve did not fix it
2014-11-28 22:10
interesting
2014-11-28 23:44
RIP CS HLTV #Confirmed
2014-11-28 22:20
Rounds fnatic boosted have to count as lost rounds for them, according to the rules. Therefore LDLC win.
2014-11-28 22:28
NEW FIND ON THE FNATIC BOOST CAUSING TRANSPARENT TEXTURES. imgur.com/a/et8o4#0
2014-11-28 23:30
Beter would be that LDLC just win, because Fnatic was cheatng ^_^
2014-11-28 23:35
Fnatik красавцы, что нашли, задержали и сделали эту фичу, LDLC пусть сосут у друг друга.
2014-11-29 00:14
SHAMEnatic
2014-11-29 02:01
True
2014-11-29 11:32
WONDER WHERES MY FUCKING ldlc BET VD FNATIC SKINS
2014-11-29 20:54
ez win
2014-11-28 21:12
LOL +1, it's sent all these nerds into their basements crying, it's so epic hbahhahahaahaha
2014-11-28 21:21
how can you be a fanboy of the worst team ever ? :D
2014-11-28 21:39
expected
2014-11-28 21:12
gj
2014-11-28 21:12
illegal look on hammer i.imgur.com/5e2T6l6.jpg not fair, replay the map or ban fnatic
2014-11-28 21:13
#81
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Brazil markaro
stop crying
2014-11-28 21:13
7-1 you cried too
2014-11-28 21:15
rekted
2014-11-28 21:28
#918
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Brazil markaro
i don't cry for soccer :D
2014-11-29 02:57
not crying at all, thats exploiting we have to be fair
2014-11-28 21:15
Stop defending fnatic. It wasn't fair.
2014-11-28 21:16
1-7
2014-11-28 21:19
Pfff, scores should be reset to 13 - 3 this is utterly stupid.
2014-11-28 21:15
whats the command for that?
2014-11-28 23:41
expected
2014-11-28 21:12
ty 4 skins
2014-11-28 21:12
+1
2014-11-28 21:13
+1 easiest skins of my life
2014-11-28 21:13
enjoy them - it's gambling anyway. I just want ldlc to have the chance they deserve and not being robbed of the possible major title.
2014-11-28 21:15
+1 LOL
2014-11-28 21:22
You know you shat your pants seeing your team down 13-3
2014-11-28 21:41
nice nice
2014-11-28 21:12
nice!!!!
2014-11-28 21:12
bye bye fantic
2014-11-28 21:12
Even if it's not pixelwaking they still violate another rule reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2n..
2014-11-28 21:12
+1
2014-11-28 21:27
+1
2014-11-28 21:31
lol: [–]spymasterrThe Global Elite 1033 points 2 hours ago olafpass may be a term that is soon to be flusha'd down the toilet. permalink [–]b0cksDistinguished Master Guardian 122 points 2 hours ago In other news: Devilwalk to change his alias to "Pixelwalk"
2014-11-28 23:47
Even if they dont violate the rule I still think they should be DQ'd
2014-11-29 11:33
nice
2014-11-28 21:12
“pixelwalking“ is illegal (Sitting or standing on invisible map edges); #DisqualifyFNATIC
2014-11-28 21:12
he was standing on krimz. not pixel :D
2014-11-28 21:14
and Krimz was standing on air.
2014-11-28 21:15
^
2014-11-28 21:16
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWdXqU_VSYg
2014-11-28 21:28
krimz was standing on pixel
2014-11-28 21:16
krimz was standing on a pixel, come on dont be biased. Fnatic did not deserved the win, fnatic is losing their integrity and respect as an organization.
2014-11-28 21:16
and krimz is flying ?
2014-11-28 21:16
doesn't matter ;D :*
2014-11-28 21:18
Yes it does, my friend.
2014-11-28 21:35
and krimz was standing on...?
2014-11-28 21:20
swedes are surprisingly stupid these days
2014-11-28 21:28
fu fnatic
2014-11-28 21:12
GOGOGO LDLC!!!!
2014-11-28 21:12
#fuckfnatic
2014-11-28 21:12
#fuckfnatic
2014-11-28 21:13
#fuckfnatic
2014-11-28 21:17
#fuckfnatic
2014-11-28 21:28
#fuckfunkatic
2014-11-29 00:42
i hope a replay will be used and fnatic wins 16-0 without boost
2014-11-28 21:12
16-0 from 3-13 is kind of hard. Not impossible for Fnatic of course. I will believe anything after that game anyway.
2014-11-28 21:14
puu.sh/d95Gj/02177b4ba8.jpg Can even see to t-spawn thru walls. gg.
2014-11-28 21:12
#19
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Poland enterq18
gogo REMATCH !!
2014-11-28 21:12
hf
2014-11-28 21:12
unexpected
2014-11-28 21:12
puu.sh/d95Gj/02177b4ba8.jpg T-spawn through wall. Obvious abuse.
2014-11-28 21:12
Comment for sale
2014-11-28 21:12
DQ fnatic!!!!!!!
2014-11-28 21:12
expected
2014-11-28 21:12
GET_REKT FNATIC FUCK YOU CARN
2014-11-28 21:12
cya fnatic
2014-11-28 21:12
sigh drama
2014-11-28 21:12
Thank you hltv.
2014-11-28 21:12
glgl
2014-11-28 21:12
Edit: 13:3 or dq. Rematch wont be fair.
2014-11-28 21:19
yes yes yes
2014-11-28 21:12
admins don't have 2 options there
2014-11-28 21:12
YASS PLS
2014-11-28 21:12
best would be to play from 13-2 again.
2014-11-28 21:12
Best would actually be fnatic dq, since they planned on this for months without reading the rules.
2014-11-28 21:20
Ya, I actually agree with this also.
2014-11-28 21:21
this
2014-11-29 01:54
12-3* but agree
2014-11-28 21:21
sorry :D
2014-11-28 21:22
13-3 since LDLC won pistol and fnatic didn't use the boost until the round after.
2014-11-28 22:35
fnatic should be disqualified.
2014-11-28 21:13
Go LDLC! I hope to see LDLC in final vs Virtus.pro :D
2014-11-28 21:13
#40
mason | 
World PRQN
YES
2014-11-28 21:13
BYE BYE fnatic
2014-11-28 21:13
Replay second half, with LDLC having already won pistol.
2014-11-28 21:13
Nah better idea is to DQ Fnatic like the rules state.
2014-11-29 01:55
OLOFPASS? MORE LIKE DQPASS
2014-11-28 21:13
Justice will be served!
2014-11-28 21:13
Cry little ldlc fanboys. It was a fair play from Fnatic.
2014-11-28 21:13
bait detected.
2014-11-28 21:20
No it was not Stop it PigW
2014-11-29 01:07
replay bo3 pls thanks
2014-11-28 21:13
rematch
2014-11-28 21:13
#51
NAF | 
Czech Republic GzzM
GL LDLC <3
2014-11-28 21:13
confirmed
2014-11-28 21:13
DQ THOSE FUCKING PIGS!
2014-11-28 21:13
they should play today after dignitas - navi we want blood
2014-11-28 21:13
now u can fuck off fnatic fanbois
2014-11-28 21:13
Say fuckin LDLC fanboy, cool.
2014-11-28 21:20
shame you little crying bitch over the internet hahahahahahahahahaha
2014-11-28 21:23
#56
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Finland Eepzie
Good, now it's up to Dreamhack to do the right thing.
2014-11-28 21:13
french girls go home
2014-11-28 21:13
It's not Valve decision though, it's Dreamhack CS:GO admins and other Dreamhack organizers.
2014-11-28 21:20
Yeah I just copy & paste so people can see how a similar boost (using pixelwalking) is clearly illegal because of the advantages it creates.
2014-11-28 21:22
few hours? must be a def win without a doubt ffs
2014-11-28 21:13
NICE JOB HLTV THANKS
2014-11-28 21:13
#64
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Portugal antCB
DQ is the only/should be the expected outcome.
2014-11-28 21:13
why does this need investigation? its pretty obvious that its pixelwalking = illegal.
2014-11-28 21:13
FNATIC IS FUCKING NOOBS
2014-11-28 21:13
Hope the sweedish admins make the fair call and disKQLYfy Fnatic. If so, Fnatic are dona as a team.
2014-11-28 21:13
guys, another rule broken by fnatic, reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2n.. gg wp fnatic, you can say good bye
2014-11-28 21:13
It's very unfair. :/
2014-11-28 21:13
FUCK FNATIC
2014-11-28 21:13
REMATCH IS A VERY GOOD OPTION
2014-11-28 21:13
DQ is a very good option. LDLC had 12 rounds and won pistol round and from that point they abused the boost and got every single round even the anti-eco.
2014-11-28 21:14
+1
2014-11-28 21:32
As much as a rematch would be the honorable thing, considering that ldlc won 13 rounds fair and square really makes me not give a shit about fnatic anymore.
2014-11-28 21:47
stfu, dq is only option...
2014-11-28 22:19
DQ OR REMATCH
2014-11-28 21:13
Why should they play whole match again just second map and ldlc should win the pistol 13-3
2014-11-28 21:13
#77
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Germany lpSykl
REMATCH
2014-11-28 21:13
RIOT RIOT RIOT! nah, in all seriousness. This was utter bullshit and the perfect example of pixel walking, if a replay of the VERY same score doesn't occur i'd be disgusted by Valve / DH
2014-11-28 21:13
i.imgur.com/jrd6fDK.jpg Wall becomes transparent. So it's 100% illegal.
2014-11-28 21:13
GOGO LDLC :)
2014-11-28 21:13
twitter.com/yle_eurheilu/status/53842355.. To sum it up: Will either be map restart or DQ for fnatic. Pretty fair and simple.
2014-11-28 21:14
How is it fair to restart the map ? They won 13 2 first half, then they started abusing the map. Only the second half should be replayed or just disqualify these noobs.
2014-11-28 21:25
second half only, 13-2 pistol round lets go!
2014-11-28 22:11
uh no dq gg kk pz
2014-11-28 22:13
hopefully they will only play the 2nd half, since LDLC earned that.
2014-11-28 21:13
no, fuck this, valve put the map there. LDLC even tried something similar.
2014-11-28 21:13
yeep but it was just a normal boost with maybe no pixel bug
2014-11-28 21:14
Their boost is legal, standing on your mate who stand on truck is legal, pixelwalking in place when you can see even tt spawn is not
2014-11-28 21:15
#171
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Norway SlimeThug
not really tho. they just stood on top of each other on the car. fnatic apparently stood on pixels
2014-11-28 21:15
LDLC didn't stand on invisible ledges or make walls invisible. They may have tried but didn't so the blame is still on Fnatic alone.
2014-11-28 21:16
lmao
2014-11-28 21:17
ldlc should won this if this boost is not tolered thats all
2014-11-28 21:13
They should be DQ - breaking 2 different rules should be enough reason
2014-11-28 21:14
Fuck the skins I lost, I just hope ldlc crush them...
2014-11-28 21:14
New map name: OlofPass !
2014-11-28 21:14
They restart from 13-3 and fnatic lose properly like they should have done
2014-11-28 21:14
Fnatic pls go home you OlofAutoSniperPixelBoostMeister!!!
2014-11-28 21:14
fnatic are pathetic... they cant win legally
2014-11-28 21:14
#99
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Europe skelteR
Yes, cheat the rules and maybe get to replay...that makes sense...DQ directly
2014-11-28 21:14
justice shall be served
2014-11-28 21:14
LOL. Fucking DH admins. First they just rule it legal without any backing. Now they'll let them replay the whole fucking map after LDLC had a 12:3 CT side and won pistol? When fnatic outright violated 2 DH rules? This level of favoritism is outrageous.
2014-11-28 21:14
Now LDLC will rape fnatic. Olofcheater, Cheatmeister ^_^
2014-11-28 21:14
shouldn't be a replay and rather just a straight DQ.
2014-11-28 21:14
+1
2014-11-28 21:15
Unexpected. I just thought they would wave the white flag and nbk would give a statement via twitter.
2014-11-28 21:14
2014-11-28 21:14
replay second half
2014-11-28 21:14
and the skins we bet on ldlc?
2014-11-28 21:14
HLTV.org knows that if they rule in favour of LDLC, the two teams will face each other again tomorrow, before the first semi-final, between NiP and Virtus.pro. If this is the case, it is still unclear whether they will replay just the second half or the entire map. Insider info :o
2014-11-28 21:14
GOOD JOB LDLC, GET FUCKED FNATIC
2014-11-28 21:14
OLOFPASS!! was good fun watching french people cry!!!
2014-11-28 21:14
if ldlc win on the remake of course, what about our skins?
2014-11-28 21:14
#121
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Belgium GQHAN
Rematch? LOL. Start with the result 13:3 for LDLC...
2014-11-28 21:14
I think they should rematch from the start, 0-0...
2014-11-28 21:14
LDLC you can do this #supportLDLC
2014-11-28 21:14
Fucking disgusting of LDLC, learn to take a loss. It isnt fnatics fault that a map has a boost that maybe shouldn't be there.
2014-11-28 21:14
0/10 bait. Learn the pixel walking and boosting rules of dhw.
2014-11-28 21:49
admins don't have 2 options there
2014-11-28 21:14
Normal !
2014-11-28 21:14
cs go lounge will give back?
2014-11-28 21:14
yeah not honest ! rematch or DS
2014-11-28 21:14
Fnatic is scumbags DQ or riot
2014-11-28 21:14
o.0
2014-11-28 21:15
Rules are simple. DQ not rematch
2014-11-28 21:15
DQ fnatic or replay at 13-3.
2014-11-28 21:15
fucking pig JW, everytime i see your face i want to punch you so hard, ugly piece of shit cheater
2014-11-28 21:15
shame you low life loser crying over a game you fucking little bitch hhahahahaha JWbest baby you suck his dick everday for breakfast and he calls you his bitch :D PEACE FAGGOT
2014-11-28 21:27
lol <3 flusha, he gives you blowjobs and you supply his hacks. Fucking faggot.
2014-11-28 23:16
you mad little bitch
2014-11-28 23:19
Justice please... LDLC most definitely had this game won. You guys watch the stream? As soon as fnatic lost pistol (13:3), you could see fnatic in despair and LDLC fired up. Fnatic knew they should've lost.
2014-11-28 21:15
why full rematch? LDLC Ct Side is legal.
2014-11-28 21:15
hope they re going to replay it tommorow from 12-3. i want fnatic to get the fuck out of DreamHack, such a horrible team
2014-11-28 21:15
Idd dq them madafakasss
2014-11-28 21:15
replay from 13-2
2014-11-28 21:15
and what about my skins .. ?
2014-11-28 21:15
#151
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Poland tentego
DQ this dumb team !
2014-11-28 21:15
#153
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Israel selukvey
why should LDLC replay the entire map when they were up 12-3?
2014-11-28 21:15
They also broke a second rule: "Boosting with the help of team mates is allowed in general, but it is forbidden in places where the textures, walls, ceilings, floors become transparent or penetrable" From the boost spot you can look here: puu.sh/d95DJ/0ff7ff8838.jpg And see through the wall into T spawn: puu.sh/d95Gj/02177b4ba8.jpg
2014-11-28 21:15
Fnatic go down! XD
2014-11-28 21:15
2014-11-28 21:15
Could he not have moved over to the left a little and be on a solid surface? This is just one screenshot...I dunno, can you actually move to the left a little in that spot so you're on a ledge?! If so, I wouldn't really count this, because you could argue that most of the time, they're on the ledge. This is one screenshot.
2014-11-28 21:15
SHOULD NOT BE REMATCH. DQ FNATIC..
2014-11-28 21:15
And they're supposed to be #1
2014-11-28 21:15
WHAT? re-play the map? That's bullshit. This is just creating a scenario where teams can push the rules without any danger of getting DQ'd. Fnatic deserves nothing else than getting DQ'd, fuck the rematch.
2014-11-28 21:15
+1
2014-11-28 21:16
This^
2014-11-28 21:20
pig please!
2014-11-28 21:15
Fucking unfair boost !!!!!! See the rules of Dreamhack they dont have to do that WTF Fnatic ! Please Rematch or Kick Fnatic LDLC <3
2014-11-28 21:15
Replay 2nd half only
2014-11-28 21:15
if its a rematch, it needs to be a FULL BO3 rematch imo.
2014-11-28 21:15
What do you mean replay the entire map or the second half? It was fucking 13-3. They replay the second half and fnatic gives the pistol round away. Then we can talk about fairness. And even though, fnatic should be straight disqualified.
2014-11-28 21:16
#175
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Europe DrexxEnt
Its a shame that an orga with such a name & background has such a slimy cs:go division.
2014-11-28 21:16
why is bind "+duck" on mouse forbidden?
2014-11-28 21:16
#391
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Poland Vekhles
I think it's residue from 1.6.
2014-11-28 21:29
why file protests it was legit!!!! goo.gl/rFP40i
2014-11-28 21:16
EPIC :D
2014-11-28 21:23
hahhaha
2014-11-28 22:15
-------E
2014-11-28 21:16
n1 LDLC GOGOGO MY FRIENDS DAWAJ RYSIEK !
2014-11-28 21:16
I hope fnatic will get dq for this bad sportsmanship. @cArn : i loved your "crew" back in a days, but now... you have to handle them ;)
2014-11-28 21:16
They should replay the entire map. I feel for LDLC, but just replaying one half of a map doesn't feel professional. This wasn't a cheat, it was a strategy. Maybe not 100% legit but definitely not a cheat or anything like that. Replay ENTIRE map and may the best team win.
2014-11-28 21:16
lol? it has to be played from 13-3 with LDLC winning pistol round thats fair
2014-11-28 21:20
I see your point but at the end of the day, why should ldlc risk losing a map they had in their pocket for the fault of the other team. I think it should be a dq. The rules are clear and professional teams should learn to honor them. Dq is the only way to show other teams that rules should never be broken.
2014-11-28 21:53
bullshit. backup 2nd half and kick fnatics asses ez.
2014-11-29 01:20
they knew the God spot boost for 2 months.. then abuse it on a major. shame.
2014-11-28 21:16
no respect for fnatic and kids that talk only about skins , cs go is a game not skins !
2014-11-28 21:16
iilegal
2014-11-28 21:16
if fnatic ll not get banned the fuck DH ffs! Both org did more damage to cs in the last few months than everyone else in the last 10 years.
2014-11-28 21:16
Nice , revenge time! This is no fair.
2014-11-28 21:16
#202
mimi | 
Sweden eNvym
DQ Fnatic or 13-3 replay it from that state, otherwise you are full of shit dreamhack
2014-11-28 21:16
fuck fnatic, thanks
2014-11-28 21:16
where is my skins at
2014-11-28 21:16
#205
AZK | 
United States Dood
Match shouldn't be replayed, fnatic should be thrown out. .
2014-11-28 21:16
FACE AGAIN EACH OTHER? Fnatic should be fucking DISQUALIFIED due to broke of the rules, but they give them another chance. Fucking pathetic
2014-11-28 21:16
they should replay the 2nd half or forfeit.
2014-11-28 21:16
hope 4 LDLC
2014-11-28 21:16
DQ fnatic, they broke rules. Don't replay a map. DQ them straight.
2014-11-28 21:16
If fnatic break the rules just dq them like titan and epsilon...
2014-11-28 21:16
anh then , kil these pigs .
2014-11-28 21:16
YEAH THANKS
2014-11-28 21:17
@brad_burch4 @KillerKidCarl @HLTVorg According to the editor, it's supposed to be clipped. i.imgur.com/5e2T6l6.jpg
2014-11-28 21:17
BAN FNATIC! CHEATERS
2014-11-28 21:17
DQ FUCK FNATIC do your job major admins
2014-11-28 21:17
what a bunch of idiots breaking the rules.. haha they gonna get fucked up for this
2014-11-28 21:17
nice
2014-11-28 21:17
So with the boost, you could see the entire map. But if file protest is over fnatic boost, can they even reach it? o,O
2014-11-28 21:17
2014-11-28 21:17
HATERS GONNA HATE, LOOSERS!
2014-11-28 21:17
2014-11-28 21:17
Nice
2014-11-28 21:18
Its easy to say afterwards the game with the pixel-mode picture. In game it looks like an edge. I guess the admin that was in charge of this match was sleeping, he should have paused the game when fnatic did it first time and give them warning to not use it again. Result = fair game until the end.
2014-11-28 21:18
according to the rules pixelwalking will result in the round loss, so a rematch wouldnt make any sense
2014-11-28 21:18
BYE BYE FNATIC CHEATERS! :D
2014-11-28 21:18
Video to everyone that havent seen it: youtube.com/watch?v=kCzpWtumPQc
2014-11-28 21:18
these scumbags are just openly cheating again, and nothing will be done . izi valve izi skins
2014-11-28 21:20
I hope we ll have rematch and ldlc will own them
2014-11-28 21:18
Since the whole "pixelwalk" rule is really iffy, since any sort of pixelwalking would be illegal, a frag from the edge of a rise, such as balcony on inferno, would be considered an illegal move. I can see how it collides with the skybox rule however. Personally I find it strange that fnatic get the flack from this, when it's really just faulty map design. Especially when the map has been in the rotation for a good while now.
2014-11-28 21:18
yeah you can stand on many spots on all maps and it would look like pixelwalking
2014-11-28 21:21
He's clearly not standing on a box or something, so dq or rematch from 12 - 3.
2014-11-28 21:18
anders just said it plain n simple "if fnatic knew about this for 2 months and knew the pixel walking rule then they shouldn't be able to reply the match"
2014-11-28 21:18
Why even replay? Are they retarded? The rules state that the rounds doing this are counted as a loss. A round loss fnatic = round win for LDLC. Fnatic did this every single round. So 3 rounds loss for Fnatic = Match winner LDLC. Stupid world.
2014-11-28 21:18
WTF WHY AGAIN. THEY KNOW THE RULES. THEY KNOW THEY CANT PIXELWALKING. SO ONLY WAY IS DQ THEM
2014-11-28 21:18
gogo LDLC truth and skill on yours side
2014-11-28 21:18
Fnatic! NO RESPECT!
2014-11-28 21:19
REMATCH AFTER 13/3 for LDLC because for a stupid pause emuLate! loose de_train against Neo and co in 1.6, so for a big bug !
2014-11-28 21:19
Obv LDLC deserved win
2014-11-28 21:19
There's not even a need to discuss it, it as clear as it gets... Who breaks the rules gets disqualified.
2014-11-28 21:20
replay overpass without ldlc and fnatic boosts and it will be fair, because both teams used two different boost's what helped them to win part in ct with bigger score.
2014-11-28 21:19
#270
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Netherlands Eatbullet
fnatic go home !
2014-11-28 21:19
I just care about the skins i lost ... oh and #fuckfnatic
2014-11-28 21:19
And why should they replay it? I mean, hacking is against the rules too, so by this logic, when some team hacks and got caught, will they replay the match without hacks again? No, they will get dq from tournament.. So when fnatic used bugs and played against the rules, they should get dqed too!
2014-11-28 21:19
+1 true
2014-11-28 21:20
#274
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Poland Aloes
ban this cheater
2014-11-28 21:19
Great news :D
2014-11-28 21:19
2014-11-28 21:19
Loosers cry so hard right naow!
2014-11-28 21:20
if they get disqualified then I'll blame valve for not fixing this shit
2014-11-28 21:20
the game should start at 13-3 second half..
2014-11-28 21:20
Hope things get done.
2014-11-28 21:20
ahahha you have to be really idiots to break rules like thats...DQ fanatic..no rematch haha
2014-11-28 21:20
If you wanna be fair. Re-play at 2nd half and LDLC take the pistol round period
2014-11-28 21:20
www.strawpoll.me/3082539/ VOTE GUYS
2014-11-28 21:20
so, only becose valve makes shit maps and know about boost likes this and dont wanna fix them, gonna have fnatic to dq? :D french people are such a pussys, Valvens own tournamet and mad still making fnatic to dq xD valve is joke just like ldlc
2014-11-28 21:20
Yes. VALVe makes shit maps. but its a reason why there are rules aginst exploiting bugs in a map
2014-11-28 21:22
all i see is third world countries whining and being jelly in general. if fnatic just sticks together and plays up to their potentional they are going to win so much in just couple next years your ass in no way cant handle that much butthurt.
2014-11-28 21:21
why should they replay again????? Fnatic clearly did an illegal move and have known about this for 2 months!!!! They should be DQ and at the very very least should restart second half 13-2 down
2014-11-28 21:21
losing all respect for dreamhack admins if this will be tolerated! reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2n.. this is NOT what competetive gaming is about! skins are already gone, noone cares!
2014-11-28 21:22
#306
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Estonia ATSO
stop crying ldlc like if they know that boost ...
2014-11-28 21:21
People, instead of shouting DQ fnatic you should find out how to contact fnatics sponsors. Their behavior is ruining their sponsors image as well.
2014-11-28 21:21
LDCP sami uzali ety xyety
2014-11-28 21:21
Replay with 13-2 score or instant DQ. Fnatic knew the pixel boost, kept it a secret for 2 months and using it on a quaterfinals? ANd they know pixel walking is illegal yet has the balls to use it. It's all about respect to the scene, sending a message to others who wants to fuck around.
2014-11-28 21:21
they never DQ fnatic it is a swedish team in sweden
2014-11-28 21:22
Rematch! ldlc + fnatick sick bitches they can use only 1 bug boost all them skill
2014-11-28 21:22
not rematch. DQ fnatic. They know rules. If they find transparent and pixelwalking spot and still they using it. They should be DQ
2014-11-28 21:23
#327
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World Griw
DQ fnc
2014-11-28 21:22
Is it now you say: gg no re? xD
2014-11-28 21:22
f it were a sport, I would say that judges favor Swedes... LDLC gg, top1
2014-11-28 21:23
it wasnt fair..
2014-11-28 21:23
HOW LOW CAN A TEAM GET, HOW FUCKING LOW. IT'S A DISGRACE.
2014-11-28 21:23
+1
2014-11-28 21:24
if it was done by nip, no1 would say a word
2014-11-28 21:25
t3h drama!
2014-11-28 21:23
It's a strategic game. I love LDLC, but...It's still a strategic game. I'd love to see a rematch on a full map though.
2014-11-28 21:23
fnatic will loose then :) justice!
2014-11-28 21:23
who cares about replaying the second half, fucking dq fnatic already!
2014-11-28 21:24
People should try to contact Fnatics sponsors. Let them know how much Fnatics behavior is ruining their own as well as their sponsors image.
2014-11-28 21:24
sympathies with LDLC
2014-11-28 21:24
www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2noxph/even_if_fnatic_was_not_pixelwalking_they_are/ they broke the rules either way
2014-11-28 21:24
i lose my skinns but i think is realy not fair that boost was to big for that game i understend fnatic they look for somthing new but is not fair
2014-11-28 21:25
its should be a DQ or resuming game from 12-3 or 13-3, but it probably wont happen because the admins a sweds
2014-11-28 21:25
Fnatic cant use cheats anymore, so they decide to use bugs insted :') LDLC defently deserves a rematch agianst Fnatic. They lost in a unfair way. What will CSGOLounge do thought with the skins? A lot of people lost skins because of that..
2014-11-28 21:25
i guess lounge cant do a shit since ppl could have already withdrawn skins to their accounts. #blamefnaticnotlounge
2014-11-28 21:27
replay? LMAO LDLC had it 100%. DQ fnatic
2014-11-28 21:26
rabble rabble rabble
2014-11-28 21:26
go rematch
2014-11-28 21:27
imgur.com/a/OsbD5 Im guessing these boosts are illegal too then? :)
2014-11-28 21:27
also inferno A site boost, and inferno b site boost
2014-11-28 21:31
Why is the hammer pic not in the news? Be fair hltv
2014-11-28 21:28
How is it fair to replay the map ? LDLC won the first half 12 3. And then fnatic started abusing the map. At least if you want to make it fair just play the second half, not the whole map again. And if it's forbidden to "exploit" then it a straight disqualification that has to happen. As it goes in any competition.
2014-11-28 21:28
fuck right in her pussy
2014-11-28 21:28
DQ fnatic for using map hacks
2014-11-28 21:28
the game should start at 13-3 second half :)
2014-11-28 21:28
#BanFnaticFromDHW
2014-11-28 21:28
Dewilwalk said they had had the boost in their arsenal for 2 months. They should be definitely DQ'd if that's true.
2014-11-28 21:28
this boost is almost the same as boost in dust2 b window where u can see middle, it looks the fucking same when ur watching from the side
2014-11-28 21:29
LDLC did like almost the same boost in 1st ct round. OFC not the same but..
2014-11-28 21:29
#407
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Poland Kamfeth
They were boosting on the truck, normal thing.
2014-11-28 21:30
But LDLC's was entirely legal. Players can boost on top of players. A player was standing on the hitch of a big ass truck model.
2014-11-28 21:31
i.imgur.com/RL9j24q.jpg There's also another position that's transparent, which could actually be used to spot someone going picnic ;>
2014-11-28 21:29
DQ or rematch
2014-11-28 21:29
imgur.com/a/OsbD5 Illegal d2 "pixel walking"? :D
2014-11-28 21:34
#435
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Poland Kamfeth
No it isn't. Fnatic fan
2014-11-28 21:34
if fnatic would advance it's a major setback for the cs scene. it'll only be about finding bugs and not reporting them. this is sad.
2014-11-28 21:29
Disgrace for the counter-strike scene.
2014-11-28 21:29
2nd screenshot shouldn't be valid because in the radar it shows him being noclipped forward
2014-11-28 21:29
too abd
2014-11-28 21:30
rematch from 12-3 for LDLC, best scenario. It will not be fair to rematch the whole map.
2014-11-28 21:30
2014-11-28 21:30
you probably did no-clip and tried so hard to take this screenshot. Your <3 fnatic its just pathetic. pbs.twimg.com/media/B3jW0PMCUAEJ5yj.jpg
2014-11-28 21:33
haha ok go and try it moron :)
2014-11-28 21:34
2014-11-28 21:51
Just DQ that shitty team
2014-11-28 21:31
imgur.com/9oio5CX lets DQ them for the same thing then GG
2014-11-28 21:31
#502
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Denmark iPlayer
They are standing on a large plane, where as krimz was standing on a less-than-a-unit thin ledge...
2014-11-28 21:51
nice cry smith use this bug please ldlc go home... cry cry cry finally protest. or ldlc rematch all match on overpass they are use this bug on grups =)
2014-11-28 21:31
What LDLC did and Fnatic did are very, very different.
2014-11-28 21:33
gfycat.com/HighHandsomeFreshwatereel flusha aimlock freshhhhh
2014-11-28 21:31
:D
2014-11-28 21:35
What this is completely random and cool from fnatic. Problem is the guy who created Overpass or if valve did they should of know about this and fixed it. Also how fucking bad can you be to lose those rounds and play till the game is over and then ask for a fucking re-match DQ for fnatic? When you figure this out u use ur timeout and then file a protest not after the match is over. Regardless of fnatic deserved or not LDLC are cry baby's they played knowing they got screwed and continued should of filed the complaint when they used their fucking time out not AFTER THE MATCH IS OVER. Deal with it.
2014-11-28 21:31
you know that fnatics boost broke 2 dreamhack rules?
2014-11-29 02:14
Technically, if a person stands on a box, on the edge, he can turn and he will be looking like he's floating in the air. Same with people standing on someone's head. It's a visual bug in the game?
2014-11-28 21:31
i.imgur.com/5e2T6l6.jpg This screenshot from Hammer-editor shows that there's no edge to stand on.
2014-11-28 21:32
imgur.com/KEcXjly so what about that edge
2014-11-28 21:34
It's actually the opposite thing to standing on someone's head and turning in the right direction to look like floating. Here, they stand on an invisible edge and turn in the right direction to look like the foot is on the edge, while there's no edge in that place. The edge is only there if we look at it graphic-wise but not texture-wise, and looking at texture, not graphics tells if the edge exists.
2014-11-28 21:38
Indeed, that's possible and it depends on where the player is looking. In this case tho, there seems to be texture-wise no edge in that place, as shown on this screenshot: pbs.twimg.com/media/B3jW0PMCUAEJ5yj.jpg
2014-11-28 21:34
totally unprofessional, i am so disspaointed with the sweeds, shame on you.....that's cleary an exploit, i mean the lower guy stays on air... PIXELWALLING, what somme people do to win a game..i would be so mad if i where the frenchs, F**K FNATIC ORGANIZATION, i wont watch another event where they attend, PERIOD on the other hand ,if they where leading, I BET THEY WOUDNT PIXELWALK !!!
2014-11-28 21:34
2014-11-28 21:34
#441
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Denmark Baitvice
If this is allowed to happen , the tournament is ruined for me and i won't care about the semis or the final , i guess Fnatic found a way to cheat "legally".Shame on you Fnatards for defending them.
2014-11-28 21:34
Why is it called boost? It's all out exploit and against the rules. Only reason they are "thinking" is because Fnatic is swedish team.
2014-11-28 21:35
i.imgur.com/eQEUrSn.jpg This is a better hammer screenshot for those wanting it. This shows how there is no ledge intentionally there. It is a bug in source with a clipping brush overlapping with another brush.
2014-11-28 21:35
disgusting that devil walk says we knew about it for 2 months what a prick not only defending that shit flusha but now this dq this fuckers
2014-11-28 21:35
Fnatic should just be disqualified!
2014-11-28 21:36
Jesus, 1.6 had DOZENS of boosts where the player would be "pixelwalking" and suddenly everybody makes a big deal out of it.
2014-11-28 21:37
#489
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Denmark Baitvice
this is not 1.6 , cs go devs work continuously to make the game balanced and not unfair. this cost a team that has worked hard the semi finals , of course we will make a big deal about it and it is CLEARLY against the rules of the tournament, if this wasn't a swedish team , this issue would be resolved long time ago.
2014-11-28 21:46
I don't really care, as long as it doesn't give real advantage, such as the infamous de_dust heaven boost in 1.6. CS:GO is still in it's early stages, not every boost position has been found yet, so the team that puts more effort into finding them will have the advantage. Simple as that.
2014-11-28 22:01
#574
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Denmark Baitvice
REAL ADVANTAGE? were we watching the same match? and it's not a boost, it's pixelwalking which is forbidden by the tournament, read the rules
2014-11-28 22:11
Real advantage i.e. not being able to shoot him when visible for example. And the pixelwalking rule is bs.
2014-11-28 22:14
#622
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Denmark Baitvice
ahahahhahah so he can SEE THE WHOLE MAP but as long as he can get shot(which it was very hard to hit him from that position) it's FAIR? pixewalking rule is there for people like you who want to exploit it and it can be BS for you but IT IS THERE , every team that goes to DH accepts the rules before so they shouldn't break them. this will be removed by valve
2014-11-28 22:22
#456
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Denmark b0ychild
If that boost isnt legal, then should shooting through walls be illegal too, in the old 1.6 days, people loved to see some new spots. such a shame that the community is fucking 13 years old, who is just mad becouse they loose they fucking skins.
2014-11-28 21:37
+1
2014-11-28 21:39
i.imgur.com/eQEUrSn.jpg This is why I'm mad. Even in 1.6 pixelwalking was illegal. I didn't even bet, yet the rules should be upheld.
2014-11-28 21:48
Funny.. I've been playing CS since '99. Maybe you can figure it out I'm not a 13y old kid. I didn't even bet. My only problem with this type of pixelwalking is the inconsistent and unplanned advantage. If he didn't shoot a single shot from that spot, he would still know all the info the needed from the 50-75% from the map. If you think it's ok, than feel free to use radarhack. Sameshit.
2014-11-28 21:48
This is so bullshit, I don't even care that I lost my skins, I want to see LDLC in the finals, not fucking HACKnatic. It was bad enough flusha wasn't banned and fnatic weren't DQ'd. Clearly fnatic knew about this boost before the tournament and practiced it. Yet, they still never made any effort to show Dreamhack staff? The fnatic scandal (flusha is def hacking), I don't even mind, but the boost screwed over the entire map for LDLC where they even won the pistol after a 12-3 half. I don't need my skins, I need to see LDLC in the finals.
2014-11-28 21:38
well, if fantic would lead at HT, i bet my ass they wouldnt pixelwalk, such a shame, it's like scoring a goal with your hand...over and over, and the reffere just allows it... it there was any other team than a sweed one, DQ as reasonable people, we shoud know better
2014-11-28 21:39
ldlc have to go to the finals. fnatic unworthy.
2014-11-28 21:41
What about smithzz boost is it pixelwalking?
2014-11-28 21:42
it's a legal trick obviously, this match should have been the final tho. two best teams easily.
2014-11-28 21:42
#491
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Denmark Baitvice
last time i checked PIXELWALKING was ILLEGAL in the tournament rules
2014-11-28 21:47
#477
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Poland nycton
Fuckn4tic
2014-11-28 21:42
n1! GJ Dreamhack staff!
2014-11-28 21:42
#479
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China holy]FTW
totally suport
2014-11-28 21:42
2014-11-28 21:43
When is that from?
2014-11-28 21:49
Admins cant allow this because the other teams could use the exploit aswell, which would make the map pretty much unplayable. They then would have to disallow the boost, but then fnatic wouldve been the only team allowed to use it - which is unfair. There is only the possibility of disallowing the boost from the start and replay the second half of the fnatic-LDLC match.
2014-11-28 21:45
LDLC <3
2014-11-28 21:45
Check the print twitter.com/LDLC_NBK
2014-11-28 21:50
+1
2014-11-28 21:50
Fnatic will either have to be disqualified or replay the second half from the round before the boost. This is unbelievable non existence of sportsmanship. Fnatic have proven here they are low-life scum, they even requested for a youtube video of the guys that found this boost to hide the video until after dreamhack.
2014-11-28 21:51
Here we go. According to this screenshot taken from Hammer there's a ledge on the boost fnatic was using: i.imgur.com/oCL6xxO.jpg Also, as everyone can see, there is a ledge on top of that pillar as well. Fnatic boosted up on it and used it, anything illegal? Nope. And for the question "But there standing in the air?". Well, it's like this if you go to every ledge on every object, for instance: i.imgur.com/InrUnWE.jpg
2014-11-28 21:51
/ban
2014-11-28 21:54
Ignoring the part where E you can see through walls.
2014-11-28 22:16
Exactly. Stop QQYING.
2014-11-28 23:08
Sorry I dont care bout skins on this game and I knew LDLC would win eazy 13-2 :) but this is disqualification simple facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=314626772076.. illegal boost on pixels? RULES ARE RULES :) bybye fnatic if they cant cheat they go do illegal boost shits? sad for progaming not worthy
2014-11-28 21:51
AND STOP CRYING i.imgur.com/oCL6xxO.jpg
2014-11-28 21:53
but nobody was standing there
2014-11-28 21:55
2014-11-28 21:56
Find one person who is arguing in fnatics favor that doesn't have "<3 fnatic" or has the swedish flag...
2014-11-28 21:54
Anders already said on stream that he spoke with a bunch of other pros and they all said if they knew about the boost they would have used it too...bye
2014-11-28 21:55
That doesn't mean they are arguing in favor of fnatic and the "pros" are not arguing in favor of keeping that boost spot. If that boost spot was used against any of those pros they would do what LDLC is doing and file a dispute.
2014-11-28 22:19
then those pros are hypocrites and i couldnt care less about what they say...
2014-11-28 22:59
That was your entire point. nitrogene said the only people who are arguing in favor of fnatic are people with "<3 fnatic" and people with swedish flags. If you disregard the pro player's opinions then the original point he made still stands and your point about pro player's supporting fnatic's decision is invalid.
2014-11-28 23:12
He said to point out anyone that is supporting fnatic using that boost. I pointed out that pros are saying that they would have used it too if they knew about it. So that kind of implies that they didnt have a problem with fnatic using it. If they were arguing in favor of removing that spot, i hadnt heard that part.
2014-11-28 23:20
I haven't seen a single tweet from pros supporting fnatic... When anders made his point about the pro players saying they would use it. The screenshots were not out yet and they were unaware of pixelwalking. On the contrary. All the tweets I have seen from the pros they were supporting LDLC. Almost all of them say this bug is game breaking. I would argue they are in favor of removing the boost spot.
2014-11-28 23:24
well i made my post before they started tweeting...What anders said implies that pros were not frowning upon fnatic using it. So if they arent frowning upon it that means they arent against it. I dont follow pros on social media, except i think i follow taz and neo on FB and thats it. If their tweets say differently than fine. But i made my post before all the tweeting.
2014-11-28 23:29
Fair enough
2014-11-28 23:31
ty
2014-11-28 23:33
Read forest's tweet in Twitter and xizt on fb...
2014-11-28 22:37
can u link them? i dont follow them
2014-11-28 22:59
They won fair... lack of skill changed into great teamwork.. Screw this rule.. :<
2014-11-28 21:54
2014-11-28 21:55
fnatic interview: -we have know better the map, thats why we won. (with smile)
2014-11-28 21:55
Lol boost is legit, Just confirmed
2014-11-28 21:55
#524
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Latvia Senotajs
EVerything is legal, it looks like he is off because he turned. prntscr.com/5b5335
2014-11-28 21:55
#525
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United States brento
boost confirmed legal
2014-11-28 21:56
even if the boost was legit, they could see thorugh walls by doing it. how can you even argue with this shit being illegal?
2014-11-28 21:56
#535
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United States brento
then the mapmaker shouldn't have included such an op boost. don't blame fnatic for figuring it out
2014-11-28 21:59
it is still bug abuse and they know it
2014-11-28 22:00
#549
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United States brento
how is it a bug? look at the pictures that have been posted, he's clearly got one foot on a ledge
2014-11-28 22:02
THE BUG IS THAT YOU CAN SEE THROUGH WALLS FROM THAT POSITION
2014-11-28 22:07
the only bad thing about this boostis that if they allow it to stay, then either every team is going to use it for thr rest of the tourney, or no1 will play overpass...
2014-11-28 21:56
Which is a good thing cause lets face it all these new maps blow balls and overpass is completely random map.
2014-11-28 21:58
thiis. thats why it cant be allowed
2014-11-28 21:59
The problem with a rematch is that it shows leniency agaisnt the rules. Titan and eps got dq because of one hacker. Fnatic should get dq'd because they broke two very clear rules. Any rematch will show leniency and will basically make the rules a joke.
2014-11-28 21:57
#533
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Yugoslavia anystrike
just love when bitches cries about skins
2014-11-28 21:58
Csgo has become a joke. Cheating everywhere.
2014-11-28 21:58
ldlc crying babes... thats what differs better teams than others. fnatic was able to study the map and take advantage of it. They were playing on the same map and both sides could use it. LDLC just wasn't clever enough :)
2014-11-28 22:01
This is joke..DH tournament is big joke.. The problem is that there you can see whole map...Nothing respect for fatties...DQ ty... Kick those unskilled DH admins and replace them with someone with common sense..
2014-11-28 22:01
"pixelwalking rule" Now that shows the competence of the ones who made the rule. They CLEARLY know how 3D games work.
2014-11-28 22:01
#546
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Singapore Nephalith
2014-11-28 22:01
fnatic izi
2014-11-28 22:02
#550
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Poland pando0r
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, LDLC!
2014-11-28 22:02
BTW the 2nd screenshot is total bullshit, the idiot who uploaded the picture noclipped instead of boosting and the spot isn't the same.
2014-11-28 22:02
ban them
2014-11-28 22:07
Actually Fnatic were breaking 3 rules instead of 1: imgur.com/dWseYrs Since they were breaking 3 rules at once instead of 1 I think they atleast should get disqualified from the tournament maybe even banned! LDLC should have won against those fking Dirty Pigs.
2014-11-28 22:07
My view: 1) fnatic are kind of a scumbags, they knew about the exploit for 2 months and didn't say anything to valve. 2) The exploit shouldn't be in the map. valve fault 3) Any team could have found and used this. 4) Not illegal. Guy stands on a teammate who stands on a small ledge. 5) Map is broken (15-0 ct is legit half after this), should be fixed (but noone knew, see no 1.) and it shouldnt have been played. 6) fnatic go to semies, ldlc knocked out. 7) ldlc was better and would win if everything was 'clean'. 8) their protest wont work, fnatic will go to semies. 9) everyone will lose respect for fnatic, regardless if they win DHW. tldr. boost is legit and makes the map broken, but fnatic guys are scumbags for not reporting it. fnatic won the game, but lost all respect from the community. ldlc was a better team.
2014-11-28 22:08
You are forgetting that the boost let you see through walls. Which is a broken rule.
2014-11-28 22:21
Damn, I did not know that. :S Were those random walls on the sides or something serious?
2014-11-28 22:22
I think you could see all the way to t spawn through a wall. The second picture above shows it.
2014-11-28 22:24
and this is ilegal right ? imgur.com/q7QrrZK
2014-11-28 22:08
there is no point for me of restarting the match or disqualify fnatic , skins are gone anyway ...
2014-11-28 22:09
#668
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Norway SlimeThug
so you're here just for the skins? get the fuck out of here then. what a stupid comment
2014-11-28 22:37
i really don't give a fuck for fnatic anyway , so if they stay or leave , i don't really care .
2014-11-29 03:17
sv_brain 0
2014-11-28 22:09
Watch the youtube video! Team LDLC vs Fnatic |BOOST SPOT! Dreamhack Quarterfinals 2014 ! youtube.com/watch?v=VSJaUq0p7ZQ
2014-11-28 22:09
The "invisible walls" are due to the "nodraw" texture used in source-games to avoid having to draw vertecies that cannot be seen under normal circumstances (which appearently exclude the boost).
2014-11-28 22:10
fnatic should be dq'd man they knew the rules and they knew about the boost 2 months in advance..
2014-11-28 22:10
dreamhack shouldn't use overpass for the rest of the tournament tbh
2014-11-28 22:11
IN ADMINS WE TRUST!
2014-11-28 22:12
they have to do it Dreamhack,this daming bug made match boring to watch and lost all my respect for fnatic
2014-11-28 22:13
It's not transparent: i.imgur.com/KEcXjly.jpg | Stop trying to find excuses and don't bet. ;)
2014-11-28 22:13
Lost 20 dollars on this match unfair and worst off the people supporting these wrongdoings are being rewarded? The fnatic betters crying out "stfu about ur loss" and whatnot. Also csgo lounge shouldn't even let skins be distributed until 10 mins after the match has ended.
2014-11-28 22:14
yeah so this is illegal to? pp.vk.me/c621721/v621721509/109c/w8raN3O.. Disgrace if fnatic get disqualified. This is just how csgo is if u far enugh out on the "edge" it looks like ur flying.
2014-11-28 22:14
Yep, same thing. Quite literally. Sure, Overpass was probably unintended, but entirely legal. Edit: I just think that people don't realize that the feet are purely cosmetic in terms of "standing" on something. There is a platform that determine if you are standing on something or not, so you can float off ledges with your feet, since your platform is still on the ledge.
2014-11-28 22:34
fnatic must have no self-pride to do that ... thats really embarassing for them to use that kind of things because money is at stake. They know it will probably be contested ... thats just some kind of illegal moove and they ruined the game in front of > 250 000 viewers ... what a shame for cs go fans and community ... fnatic could no more use aimbot cheat (flusha and co) so they now use map bugs ??? wtf is this team ... MONEYYY !!!
2014-11-28 22:15
flusha cant use aimbot anymore.. so they using shit like this instead
2014-11-28 22:15
imgur.com/jwNTm9Q i.imgur.com/oCL6xxO.jpg here u can see that it is not pixelwalking!!!! there is clearly a edge !!!!
2014-11-28 22:15
Haha sure
2014-11-28 22:17
About the skins. They are already given right ? Can they just take them back or what ?
2014-11-28 22:15
#594
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World Buick
Here's an example of one of the million pixel walking boost spots that were used in pro CS:GO matches with no issue: i.ytimg.com/vi/hoH9Iqw3bdI/0.jpg
2014-11-28 22:18
Except this boost let you see through walls
2014-11-28 22:22
#595
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Romania WOTAN
To the guys with "EZ skinz TY for the skinz LDLC fanboys" I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SKINS I ONLY WANT LDLC GET IN THE FINALS. #100%#LDLC#FANBOY
2014-11-28 22:17
Its the same thing as jump to the silo on nuke! there are some pixels there and everyone jumps to it... not defending anyone, pretty god job from fnatic, but LDLC didn´t deserve it!!
2014-11-28 22:17
what they just did not to loose a main event is just a scandal ... how can u just do that in front of > 250k viewers wtf ? pride ? NOOOO ... MONEYYYYY ??? YESSSSSSS
2014-11-28 22:17
So you saying, using something new, and being creative is a shame? And if you watched the stream, the crowd was crazy about it, so am I, and a lot from those 250k was excited about it too.
2014-11-28 22:22
No. A lot of 250k was disgusted.
2014-11-28 22:46
I dont know how Fnatic and Carn can be happy about this, winning like this is such a shame, how misery and poor you need to be to win in such a way? SHAME
2014-11-28 22:17
hope for rematch from 13:3 without that boost
2014-11-28 22:18
This boost is the best in the history of respect cs go team fnatic very hard to figure out so brilliant position.
2014-11-28 22:20
#608
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Sri Lanka King Ye
it's not their fault the map is bugged
2014-11-28 22:20
yep map do this... not fnatic.... fanboy logic
2014-11-28 22:21
#618
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Sri Lanka King Ye
it's not their fault the map is bugged
2014-11-28 22:21
yeah and the rules say u cant use the bugs. Get it ?
2014-11-28 22:22
#630
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Sri Lanka King Ye
it's not their fault the map is bugged
2014-11-28 22:23
so using bug is illegal according to dreamhack.
2014-11-28 23:27
How do they fix all the already given skins ???
2014-11-28 22:21
Protip: They don't.
2014-11-28 22:22
But if LDLC win then they have to ??
2014-11-28 22:24
If you want to add everyone to Steam friends and convince them to give the skins back, go for it. Draft already happened.
2014-11-28 22:35
men france needs everything to win the game. First 2 vac bans xDDDDDDDDDD l2 cheat then lose to flusha who didnt get vac banned cuz better cheat EHHEAHEAHEHA. And now you need to turn in a protest file xDDDDDD. inb4 Get_right cheats when LDLC lose again. men stop play the game france animals what ar u good at xDDD
2014-11-28 22:21
+1 best english
2014-11-28 22:23
Not sure if retarded or just got over trolled cy@
2014-11-28 22:36
OMG !?!? again play this map ! Stop Glitches
2014-11-28 22:23
It was NOT an invisible wall, thus not pixelwalking. tinypic.com/view.php?pic=11weha9&s=8#.VH.. Quite visible ledge, wouldn't you say? That the center of gravity is far off, and that the feet float when he rotates, is entirely normal. You can just walk to any edge, get really close to falling off, and rotate, and you will float. That is simply due to player feet being cosmetic, and the real collision detection is a platform.
2014-11-28 22:23
Don't you see the big ledge? Is it invisible to you? It is huge. Right there, in the middle. It is huge. The rule states, explicitly, using "Sitting or standing on invisible map edges" That CLEARLY isn't an INVISIBLE edge. You can see it. You have a big screenshot of it. Clearly the boundaries are incorrectly drawn on this map, but that is not the fault of fnatic. You can argue that it was dirty, nasty, but not really that they were "sitting or standing on invisible map edges". It was really visible.
2014-11-28 22:32
Agree.
2014-11-28 22:26
imgur.com/GmZT5YD NiP using pixelwalk in dhw14
2014-11-28 22:25
This actually really is an issue :o Although it isnt as gamebreaking as the other boost, its still illegal ;o
2014-11-28 22:26
Nips boost doesn't let you see through walls lol
2014-11-28 22:30
Neither does fnatics boost. It lets you see "over" a wall, which is different ;) The boost is not an invisible ledge. It is a quite visible ledge. Very visible. Pixelwalking, as defined by DH, is "Sitting or standing on invisible map edges". It was VERY visible ledge. The one rule that could have broken, is that from the boost you break some textures in NOT PLAYER-areas. You break some textures allowing you to see.... oblivion, pretty much. There is nothing to be seen, but according to the letter of the law, it is a violation. But I am not entirely sure that is a good precedent to set. Partly because the parts that you could see through were irrelevant, simply far off walls and textures leading to nowhere. And partly because a lot of boosts expose far off textures, it is simply due to how the engine works.
2014-11-28 22:40
lol fnatic could see what ldlc was doing in the first 5 sec of the round wtf are you talking
2014-11-28 23:39
Theres a ledge there dumbass. Go into game before you say shit
2014-11-28 22:33
DQ FNATIC, LDLC GO THROUGH
2014-11-28 22:25
fnatic also fucked people like me who bet 100+ value on LDLC... wouldnt be mad if it was a fair win tho..
2014-11-28 22:30
All i see is sad LDLC Fanboyz, Just accept that fnatic knew the map better :), Better luck NeXT time LDLC :D, But if a admin confirms it as "cheating" then they'll just play the map Again. :D
2014-11-28 22:30
Ban
2014-11-28 22:33
Good! and not even a rematch, disqualification!! Such a lame way to win, I felt so bad for LDLC! actually raged every time they got killed from the boost.
2014-11-28 22:33
Agreed.
2014-11-28 22:34
look at this boost too ... not only 1 pixelwalking !! twitter.com/NiaK/status/5384319433950085..
2014-11-28 22:42
They should be disqualified. Rematches under these circumstances goes to show that dirty plays like this will not be penalized
2014-11-28 22:34
this fail valve!! fnatic wp nice bug!!fn is power fn is life fn is my mom suhqiurdfhguiuhgufuhjsd
2014-11-28 22:35
DQ fnatic !!! bs happened. unfair.
2014-11-28 22:36
Team LDLC vs Fnatic | Olofmeister BOOST SPOT! DreamHack Quarterfinals 2014 ! Watch video -> youtube.com/watch?v=VSJaUq0p7ZQ&list=PL8..
2014-11-28 22:36
Stick in the ass for those who say that its valve fault
2014-11-28 22:41
Typic fnatic. bunch of cheaters...
2014-11-28 22:42
I hope they get DQ'd for being shitbag abusers. Not coming forward with this is just wrong. When i see Fnatic logo in other games it's just an picture of BM players.
2014-11-28 22:47
+100
2014-11-29 00:47
If there is any fairness in this tournament the second half of overpass should be replayed with no boost
2014-11-28 22:43
its not about the fucking skins on csgolounge its about the fairness in the csgoscene...
2014-11-28 22:44
just ban em from dh... they should have told valve 2 months ago!!!
2014-11-28 22:44
DQ fnatic for unfair boost, LDLC really deserves the victory
2014-11-28 22:46
2014-11-28 22:49
#685
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Poland dyzio65
it will be rematch tomorrow... confirmed!
2014-11-28 22:50
2014-11-28 22:51
This date is for now known as THE BOOST, like Jordan's The Shot :D
2014-11-28 22:53
rr the half
2014-11-28 22:53
+10000000000000000000000 LDLC are clearly the winners of this match
2014-11-28 22:53
i believe it was fnatic who i also saw using the illegal boot over logs at banana
2014-11-28 22:54
LOL on dust2 the place of terrorists too is visible
2014-11-28 22:54
fnatic knwo they would lost the map...so they used this illegal boost, now they get a rematch? really smart from them
2014-11-28 22:56
Map abuse, aimlock - why are they still tolerated?
2014-11-28 22:57
imgur.com/a/jgdN9 nuff' said fnatic advance G_G map fix inc.
2014-11-28 23:01
fnatic's a fking joke.
2014-11-28 23:09
Its game breaking match bug wit godmode and complete vision. What kind of sad loser doesnät care at all about professionalism and competitive gaming image and breaks it out like this?
2014-11-28 23:10
exactly
2014-11-29 01:25
#715
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Europe Dan Zero
+1
2014-11-28 23:15
Before i got flamed just so you know I bet 6$ on LDLC. But with all fairness fnatic should adavnce, everyone can use this boost if the figure it out...
2014-11-28 23:14
2014-11-28 23:15
+9000
2014-11-28 23:21
LDLC try to make smtng like fnatic with smithz. Why did they file protest I dont understand :/
2014-11-28 23:20
who cares lol this is some kind of a joke, they would lose even without the bug so ldlc are just mad that they cant win 3rd or 4th time in a row on lan against them
2014-11-28 23:22
fnatic sucks those guys have to be banned for theyre whole lives goddamn motherfuckers valve sucks same as fnatic does those guys i own them in 1 2 3 fucking cocksuckers fnatic jw if i see you irl i will pwn your fucking face more then a pig it is now you fucking pig fuckert
2014-11-28 23:23
why the 0-0 will play? since it was 13-3 for LDLC. What a professional tournament.
2014-11-28 23:24
2014-11-28 23:24
it isnt the same boost, omg how retarded are you?
2014-11-28 23:27
yeap
2014-11-28 23:30
cheaters use illegal boost? nice story bro.
2014-11-28 23:25
It's wrong of the map stupid Valve!!!Fnatic need to go on semifinals.
2014-11-28 23:25
they broke 3-4 rules lmao how can they not get dq'd...
2014-11-28 23:26
2014-11-28 23:27
thanks for link, wow it's even in the DH rules that it's illegal. "Boosting with the help of team mates is allowed in general, but it is forbidden in places where the textures, walls, ceilings, floors become transparent or penetrable;" decision taking so long because DH admins swedish? fnatic fan boys? its a straight forward ruling. if dreamhack doesn't DQ fnatic for this, it'll be a huge joke! damn fnatic cheater mentality, no respect for the rules of gaming. after this i'm sure olof would have used a cheat program if he had access to it.
2014-11-28 23:27
you do realise this is a PR disaster and there it no right way for DH to come out on top.
2014-11-28 23:32
the fact is they have only 1 correct choice. follow the rules they made and DQ fnatic. or else they will destroy the integrity & professionalism of DH.
2014-11-28 23:39
#746
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Sweden SteAmeX
No rematch. They won the game based on better map knowledge. Nothing more. Fair play.
2014-11-28 23:29
It's obviously an exploit... or should every team use it? So that we end up with overpass being a 15-0 CT map? That would be fun.
2014-11-28 23:32
simply a rematch from the moment they started to use the boost spot i feel would be fair
2014-11-28 23:29
if u cant beat them then report them hahahah its just nbk mad as always
2014-11-28 23:30
I can't but help think 90% of teh hate train wouldn't care if someone else had done this but since it's flusha's team everyone is being more annoyed. It's not the first time exploits have been used in CS it won't be the last that said I don't care about the outcome the whole tournament has been on a tilt becuase of teh VAC shit,
2014-11-28 23:31
2014-11-28 23:34
what if they DQ or they play the sec half again and fnatic loose, Rage mode party at CSGOLOUNGE :D popcorn inc :D
2014-11-28 23:36
Losing some shitty skins < $250,000 chance for a team.
2014-11-28 23:38
youtu.be/mVGgT1lyp3A?t=31m15s Hm, such boost shouldn't be allowed :/
2014-11-28 23:37
this is fucking stupid jesus..ldlc couldnt do shit lol
2014-11-28 23:38
gfycat.com/GrimUniqueInsect Interesting, isn't it?
2014-11-28 23:41
fcuk really its time to boycot valve guys and nt those fnatic girlplayers lets go to gabe man that guy is the man that is makjing money from cheaters
2014-11-28 23:43
1-This proves valve can't make competitive maps viable , get someone who has a brain for these kind of stuff without making a shit of maps . 2-Are the Admins not noticing this type of play ? You let it happen for the entire half , look at the rules and see if there's violation , hold the match until you know it's good to go but letting the match continue is seriously fucked up. 3-It's not respectable by fnatic to do this type of stuff , but it's acceptable if it is allowed . and that is all what we are waiting to find out
2014-11-28 23:43
Ur #2 is so so true. Adminds should do someting right away when they see this kind of abuse. Even on #3 ur right: Thats why everyone has something against fnatic, mate.
2014-11-28 23:59
SORRY TO SHIT ON EVERYONES PARADE BUT....... RULES OF CSGOLOUNGE: 18. "If a match has been played and afterwards the tournament admins decide there needs to be a rematch, for whatever reason, we will not be responsible for this and the initial bets will remain. Reason being: the admins may call for a rematch once we have already drafted items." i BET BIG LDLC im pissed....
2014-11-28 23:45
Who cares about csgo lounge or skins? It's a question of integrity across the entire professional sport ffs.
2014-11-28 23:51
alot of people do bro, i agree with u completely, just everyone posting about how bad it is for the scene figured id say sum diff. but thanks
2014-11-28 23:54
It's been hours and no decision will be DreamHack protecting fnatic? (to be Swedes)
2014-11-28 23:47
2014-11-28 23:47
that's fucking nasty man
2014-11-28 23:54
#789
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0
Replay the 3rd map but on the original maps dust2 nuke mirage and inferno fuck that broken overpass shit
2014-11-28 23:54
fnatic _ABUSED_ the map bug! Devilwalk stated that they had known about the bug for TWO months?!?! I mean WTF? Pro players are supposed to fucking tell the mapmakers and valve when issues like this show up, but no, we are talking about fnatic here, a whole bunch of fucking cheaters and unproffesional players without any sportmanship at all. I am not surprised at all. I hope that in the end the second half of overpass is played again with LDLC in favour 12-3 (am i right?)
2014-11-28 23:55
You're right indeed.
2014-11-28 23:57
The following actions are strictly prohibited during a game and will result in round loss (the amount is determined by the tournament director) which will be deducted at the end of the match, and a warning: • using console is forbidden (except to record game); • any form of script is forbidden; • using bugs which change the game principle (i.e. spawn bugs) is illegal; • moving through walls, floors and roofs is strictly forbidden. This also includes skywalking; • "silent bombs" (i.e. the planting of a bomb which doesn't make a sound) are illegal; • planting bombs so that they cannot be defused is illegal. This does not include plants where multiple players are needed to defuse; • boosting with the help of team mates is allowed in general, but it is forbidden in places where the textures, walls, ceilings, floors become transparent or penetrable; • “fireboost” (i.e firing below a player to push him) is strictly illegal; • “flashbugs” are forbidden; • throwing flash grenades under walls is not allowed, throwing grenades over walls or roofs is allowed; • “mapswimming“ or „Floating“ is illegal; • “pixelwalking“ is illegal (Sitting or standing on invisible map edges); • using 16bit graphics; • Binding “+duck“ to the mouse wheel is forbidden; • Any custom (game) files. gg fnatic u lost, dh rules :] just a shame skins dont come back but... i'm just happy they get to lose
2014-11-28 23:58
Topic for gathered proofs. i.imgur.com/PwS5msu.gif gfycat.com/RemoteGrimIchidna gfycat.com/CloudyWhichAntelopegroundsqui.. gfycat.com/HighHandsomeFreshwatereel gfycat.com/InfatuatedSeriousGalapagoshaw.. gfycat.com/EvenConfusedHellbender To be continued, pls answer with new gifs/videos. Just DHW, Cheatfree major. Kappa. Dupreeh: Erh, no they are not checking your gear. hltv.org/news/13693-fnatic-penta-progre...
2014-11-28 23:58
and these are from DHW14
2014-11-28 23:59
lol good 1 you reminded me that Dreamhack said it will be cheat free! now it's a different kind of cheat, not aimbot but exploit cheat. lol
2014-11-29 00:00
guys its not just about pixel walking its also about using a spot that causes walls to be come invis / penetrable. its in the DH rules. imgur.com/UXBdQra reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2n.. and yes if graffiti wall boost is considered a pixel boost then NIP should be DQ'd by admins automatically without HR having to raise an issue. This is the admins' job and only a failure of the admins to do their job properly requires anyone (like HR or LDLC) to submit a protest. its still a crime even if the police saw it and didn't do anything.
2014-11-28 23:58
i couldn't care less what they do. NIP will still win!!
2014-11-29 00:00
Wow, i am from sweden and i am a NipFan.... Like i have seen on other commants that they said DevilWalk knowned the bug on Overpass for like 2 months also the team. Maybe the got the idéa when they was so close to lose against LDLC and try the chicken way, and boost like that! so shitty off them, they are not destroying for themself its the whole fnatic community, i mean they doing a bad rep for fnatic! Even i like nip, LDLC deservers rematch! :)
2014-11-29 00:00
exactly they were forced to use the exploit as they were 3-12 down. I bet they would have loved to save it for the finals. Good thing they used it now, so that this doesnt spoil the semis or finals. Can you imagine NIP vs Fnatic in the grand finals and this was used?
2014-11-29 00:04
Dude.... i thought of that to... But we will see! :) i really hope for an Rematch, so JW and Flusha can crie to bed, when they lose :)
2014-11-29 00:09
#806
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Sweden shirre
If Dreamhack let this go without some type of punishment I will never watch CS again. It's so horrible that admins didn't care or see anything during the match (and I highly doubt that you missed it). LDLC deserves to go to the semi-finals, not fnatic. This is almost as bad as the vacbans.. They should have stopped the match the first time someone spotted it and fnatic should have recieved a warning. This is even in DH's own rules god damnit.. And on top of the boost that destroyed most of the match, they used another one that isn't allowed either. Send fnatic home or have a rematch from the 13-3 result. This is so damn horrible, I feel so sorry for LDLC.
2014-11-29 00:01
a rematch would be DH breaking their own rules. its a DQ offense.
2014-11-29 00:05
they dont deserve rematch, they deserve to be disqualified.
2014-11-29 00:02
When fnatic gets dqed, what is csgo lounge gonna do? Giving the skins back?
2014-11-29 00:04
nothing.
2014-11-29 00:06
#815
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up
They should replay it from the 3-13 scoreline or from the beginning of the 3rd map. NiP also pixelboosted and should be punished accordingly, i.e. replay vs. PKD.
2014-11-29 00:06
they should be DQ, as rules said.
2014-11-29 00:07
#823
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up
I don't agree with the rules.
2014-11-29 00:16
the pixelwalking bug on Inferno, is the same bug as Overpass. on inferno, no people is mad. just cus kids lose their skins, they are mad and whine. l2l kids.
2014-11-29 00:09
or cause on inferno, there is a spot that you can check and kill the person in, and he only see as much of the map as he would without boost. Here u can see whole map, and u basicly cant be killed. Next time when you think: " Hey i should get in on the discussion and pust a comment on HLTV" Just use ur brain first. Think "is my comment actualy valid?" before you press enter
2014-11-29 00:16
but still it is "pixelwalking" .. nothing is changing
2014-11-29 00:41
Shame on you fnatic! Just going complete scum and even think you won legit. You are really good role models for all the cheering kids in the crowd who cheat on legit players in MM later! I hope you get banned forever! And no, I did not bet anything on LDLC. I just think majors like these are a good opportunity to bring the scene forward and bring new people to it. But thanks to these assholes this will all be destroyed. I hope you are happy. Fucking disgrace!
2014-11-29 00:12
cry cry cry
2014-11-29 00:14
Nonproffesional fnatic, fu
2014-11-29 00:24
fknatic was breaking the dh rules several times. instand dq, or playing this game will be worthless. admins just cant let this go through.
2014-11-29 00:33
+1
2014-11-29 00:39
second pic is taken from a different position still pixelwalking though, so i hope admins will rule in favor of ldlc
2014-11-29 00:37
yes, this boost uses some hitbox glitches that are not suposed to be "usable". But Nuke silo jump also uses invisible hitboxes (both to be able to run a little further and for landing on the pipe). Since there are other permited boosts that use the same kind of glitches, this one should be permited. Or then ban every permitted boost like this, and then this should be illegal too. Anyways, this should be the last time.
2014-11-29 00:40
Nuke Silo jump is common knowledge, doesn't give a sight over the whole (!) map and you can be easily spotted and picked off. Its also NOT pixelwalking. Its a normal boost. Not in slightest comparable with the shit fnatic pulled off!
2014-11-29 00:46
Yes, but if you look to the theory of how it's made, is quite the same. You run through the air the last moment and crouch over a hitbox that shouldn't be that way. youtube.com/watch?v=nRY_TRipfpQ in this video WarOwl shows how to counter this boost as T. I do think that should be banned, but since there are other boosts that use similar exploits, they shouldn't be DQ. Maybe a rematch, but never direct DQ.
2014-11-29 01:03
Still. These boosts are not game changing. In fact, especially on Nuke they give a LITTLE favor to T-side on a map which is basically the most CT-sided map ever. The boost of fnatic IS game changing and ruins the complete T-side of the enemy.
2014-11-29 01:06
that's why i say that should be a rematch but never direct DQ. DHW14 has not an explicit ban to pixelwalking, and LDLC uses a similar boost that had the inmortality glitch.
2014-11-29 11:32
guy on reddit has a new name for fnatic's coach.. "Devilwa--Pixelwalk, rather" lol
2014-11-29 00:44
If they don't take any good decision, csgo is a joke
2014-11-29 00:45
and devilwalk is happy on interview after this ... is this man stupid ?? fnatic what a fairplay.. shame on you.. they were loosing 13-3 and know they cant comeback.. Imagine if they start as ct..
2014-11-29 00:46
haha shame is on you kid. enjoy ebola
2014-11-29 00:47
just think one time in your entire life.. and you are the kid to act like you do DO YOU WANT ALL CSGO MAPS BE LIKE THIS ? you can look enemy spawn 10sec after the round start and almost the entire map..???? ARE YOU A SUPER HERO ?? This isnt cs anymore...
2014-11-29 00:55
First, they forget to put back on soundproof headsets after a pause: reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2n.. Now they use shady boosts? Nice sportsmanship fnactic!
2014-11-29 00:57
ONE WORD FOR THIS! -> SHAME!
2014-11-29 01:00
Fnatic Disqualified, there is no other reason, they used one more boost near B which was again pixelwalking plus flusha aimlock. How can that not be confirmed it happened over 5 times only on overpass, where you could obviously see the aimlock. Or he can just see trough the walls maybe #justflushathings
2014-11-29 01:03
whats going on
2014-11-29 01:06
so what now you idiot? is he spotting the whole map with it? is he watching trough walls with it? no he isnt, just gtfo
2014-11-29 01:08
That's not the point. Point is it's illegal. No where in the rules does it state that a boost must not spot the whole map. Nice try though. Olof isn't watching through walls either, he has the option though, but as you can see from those screenshots, LDLC has the same options.
2014-11-29 01:10
+1
2014-11-29 01:15
Actually he is watching through a wall, get your facts straight
2014-11-29 01:25
Thats not a pixel boost bro. You either are blind or lack CSGO knowlegde. Explain this: gfycat.com/GrimUniqueInsect <- This is pixel boost.
2014-11-29 01:16
2014-11-29 02:17
Of course. Thats pixelboosting. Im not picking sides, just stating facts.
2014-11-29 09:51
What the fuck there are no transparent walls if he stands on there the only way the walls can be transparent you have be really close just like you did there otherwise LDLC's spot doesn't have transparent walls you can look at.
2014-12-01 03:43
But he can do it on a rainy night in Stoke #justflushathings
2014-11-29 01:11
will the tournament consider this pixelwalking violation too? gfycat.com/GrimUniqueInsect
2014-11-29 01:15
can u imagine if they used that bug against pashaBiceps?HAHAHAHAH he would have paused the game and be like JayWuu what are u doing my friend?hahahha
2014-11-29 01:17
If Skrimz was floating on pixel, it's one round removed. But Olof was also breaking a rule. Then DH should remove 2 round for each round it happened? :)
2014-11-29 01:17
idiot here dont use pixel only bost 3 player for kill bdud
2014-11-29 01:18
Why they would play again? DH admins pull this map in tournament, and no one says that people can't use this boost . So, I think it's a org. moment that they loss. #fnaticToNavi
2014-11-29 01:19
so what they gonna do now rematch?
2014-11-29 01:25
MAP WILL BE REPLAYED U HEARD IT FIRST
2014-11-29 01:30
i see this as a bug shud not be in game no fair play i whod call it cheting in eny ather game giwe ldlc the win or do rematch best of 1
2014-11-29 01:34
I think admins should rule in favor of LDLC. this has nothing to do with the hacking accusations towards fnatic. it really is abusing a map exploit and fnatic being a professional team should be well aware of this. you can bet if ldlc did this to them and fnatic became aware afterwards they would bring it up.
2014-11-29 01:36
fnatic best
2014-11-29 01:37
Im done with this shit on pro Level.
2014-11-29 01:40
I'm quitting HLTV. This site and it's users give me cancer.
2014-11-29 01:40
What????
2014-11-29 01:42
Just checked my sticker challenge, fnatic listed as loser, I guess they got DQ'd
2014-11-29 01:41
10/10 JWursts dislike
2014-11-29 01:45
Replay Replay Replay Replay
2014-11-29 01:43
youtube.com/watch?v=1Oyvb8Pr3ZI check when this was published on Youtube. Valve could've fixed this. So much rage, so little thinking.
2014-11-29 01:55
So when the hell are they planning on deciding the opponent of navi? This is stupid
2014-11-29 01:58
#903
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Australia eClipz-AU
It doesn't matter if any other instance has been technically pixelwalking, what matters is that a complaint was made specifically about this occasion. That is why technically, any other occasion does not matter, because no complaints were lodged. This 100% breaches the ruling of pixelwalking, there will be a dq or rematch
2014-11-29 02:01
Jesus. That was horrible. Fnatic are a bunch of cheaters(ok. I don't have proof) and anti Fairplay. Jesus hate those fnatic. If one of you from fnatic see this, I just wanna tell you - shame on you you - camels.
2014-11-29 02:10
#908
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Portugal macpjoao
Everyone is just mad because of skins. CS isn't even a game anymore, it's just like horse races. Just a betting show
2014-11-29 02:18
#909
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Netherlands K1NGBOAZ
Looks like an old pubmasters movie. This has nothing to do with skill or csgo. Its pure fucking nonsense...
2014-11-29 02:18
#910
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Finland Kryyker
2014-11-29 02:19
hahhahhah, sweeden how are u? u mad?
2014-11-29 02:20
DQ fnatic. So desperate to win no "aim assist" = use bugs and do pixelwalking.. deym fnatic
2014-11-29 02:21
“pixelwalking“ is illegal (Sitting or standing on invisible map edges); files.dreamhack.se/rules/DHS13_CSGO_Rule.. word for word that edge IS visible, if you are going to argue that you are lying to yourself. Now if you want to argue that they could see an invisible portion of the map, I don't believe fnatic was abusing it, nor did olaf even look at it, that is something valve should fix because that is probably visible from jumping off the truck.
2014-11-29 02:23
NBK- @LDLC_NBK · 20m 20 minutes ago Admins decision : 12-3 restart. @FNATIC are filling a complain against us now. So the final decision isn't final. Good night. Rip CS:GO.
2014-11-29 02:36
EZ...PZ
2014-11-29 02:40
Just play another entire fcuking map ....
2014-11-29 02:54
So much dramas
2014-11-29 02:55
DreamHack @DreamHack · 2m 2 minutes ago Final decision. LDLC vs Fnatic last map Overpass will be replayed due to texture transparency and immortal bug used by both teams.
2014-11-29 03:18
so 0 - 0 ? It's ok for me
2014-11-29 03:25
LDLC 12 - 3 FNATIC
2014-11-29 04:15
fack u all - olofm <3
2014-11-29 03:26
1, LDLC did a boost like that from another ange and it had been prooved. 2, Stop overreacting just because you lost some skins on csgolounge.
2014-11-29 03:49
swedes,ignorant as always. LDLC was standing on the truck tyre.They could barely see anything.
2014-11-29 04:36
Dude they still had the one way see trough texture. And whats up calling all swedes ignorant? Can you proove that statement in any way? Mr.Vindaloo
2014-11-29 04:39
i dont need to , yesterday it was proven with them posts about fnatic. LDLC used it one round and saw nothing ,didnt try to look for anything. We know what fnatic did.
2014-11-29 04:45
So if you smoke weed and dont get an effwct its legal? And you're saying all swedes are the same?
2014-11-29 04:49
youtu.be/Wor34WKxkpM "Fuck you" :p
2014-11-29 04:57
Most swedes man.
2014-11-29 05:01
Sweden population: 11.000.000 and you're sating that 40 people are the majority... The obly swedish people in fnatic is the players in the team. The org is brittish.
2014-11-29 05:19
i was talking about most swedes here on HLTV>
2014-11-29 05:23
Why are they ignorant?
2014-11-29 05:45
were u afk when the shitstorm happened?
2014-11-29 06:04
LETS TALK ABOUT THIS we all blame about pixel walking. if it was legal olofmeister was at least able to watch their entire spawn TROUGH A WALL. IS IT LEGAL? i dont think so. so gg FNATIC GO HOME :D ps: i didnt bet anything on this or other matches. i just want to see who is better at this game not WHO FINDS FIRST A BOOST that completely ruins the game. Valve told teams to refer when they find a boost on a new map and they didnt just because THEY WERE SURE that valve would fix it in 1 day maybe. SO DQ FNATIC.
2014-11-29 04:12
legal or illegal but how can team use spot that allows to see 95% of map and just click on enemys heads with scar?
2014-11-29 04:15
hahaha they should disqualify fnatic but the dont cuz $$$$ involved....but VACation still viable after DH
2014-11-29 04:27
Lol, LDLC was using this boost against NiP. They is the ones that should be banned.
2014-11-29 04:51
nope
2014-11-29 06:04
Its not same boost omg..
2014-11-29 09:54
thats wat i said
2014-11-29 12:48
Yeah i know :)
2014-11-29 13:09
i want LDLC in final, and its not becouse i am from Belgium and French..This DHW is best of ***** for me.
2014-11-29 13:09
+1 go LDLC!
2014-11-29 07:13
2014-11-29 09:48
2man boost vs 3 man boost u think this is the same? at the same place or what? are u blind???
2014-11-29 12:13
This boost is not a pixel walking one the second guy is on a ledge
2014-11-29 12:58
France, the most retarded cs country there ever was and there ever will be. Still whining like a decade ago after they Get_ReKT. ROFLMAO@FRANCE.
2014-11-29 10:21
where is your scene? oh right there isent one
2014-11-29 11:32
Yeah sure like the boost was legal anyway right. Nah man you are right we should not "whine" when a pro team on a game uses trigger and illegal boost. We should let them destroy the game we all love dumbass.
2014-11-29 12:57
youtube.com/watch?v=a306Gftfvuo Fnatic's 2 pixelwalking
2014-11-29 10:50
+1
2014-11-29 12:14
Cry baby cry
2014-11-29 12:13
We hope that developers will correct maps in the next months
2014-11-29 15:41
2014-11-29 16:13
nice!
2014-12-01 03:47
NEVER FORGET !
2015-02-12 05:37
10/10 necro retards
2015-02-12 07:19
2007-2010 fnatic was cool, i even had a fnatic mousepad rofl, but today how it has changed poor fnatic hahaha ruined
2015-02-12 07:27
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