flusha: "There's no more enjoyment"

fnatic's Robin "flusha" Rönnquist has opened up on his Facebook fan page regarding the recent cheating accusations that he's been the target of.

Ever since Simon "smn" Beck, Hovik "KQLY" Tovmassian and Gordon "Sf" Giry were VAC banned for cheating, multiple players have been accused of also having cheated at tournaments.

Possibly the most often the target of these accusations has been fnatic's Robin "flusha" Rönnquist, who has now opened up on his Facebook fan page regarding the situation:

"Hello everyone, i am going to talk a bit about all the cheating accusations that people have directed towards me," Rönnquist stated on his fan page.

"First of all i have been playing competetively for about 7-8 years now, both CS 1.6 and CS:GO. I have been heavily accused all my career except for the 1 and a half year after we got a breakout tournament at Copenhagen games 2013.

"But ever since the VAC bans of KQLY and SF went public the community has been on a witch hunt for players (mostly me).

"The only thing the community has managed to get me and my team is alot of undeserved hate.

"I have never been banned or gotten disqualified for cheating from a tournament/league/ladder in all my life, yet i have been reviewed by alot of different admins, for example ESL admins has reviewed me on several occasions.

"The only thing i can say about the clips on me is that i have a very different playstyle and i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player.

"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke, ever since this witch hunt started 9 out of 10 messages to me on twitter/facebook has been insults or deaththreats.

"The other 1 out of 10 are fans that still appreciate what we do and just want to tell us that they are still cheering for us, i thank them for this.

"It is just sad that you might have destroyed one of the best teams in the world with your hatred towards my team, some players in my team feels like there is no more enjoyment in the game and would rather quit than to keep playing in this situation.

"I love esports and the joy you can get out of it, the only problem with it is the community and all that they bring, this is why i have never cared about the community, social medias and other stuff like that. I only do these things for the sponsors of my team."

A while after his initial post, the fnatic star also added a new post to reply to some of the people in the comment section:

"Since there is still alot of ignorant people. I have never cheated and i will NEVER cheat."

After forfeiting the rematch of de_overpass against LDLC at DreamHack Winter, fnatic placed 5-8th at the major. They will next travel to Dallas for ESEA Invite Finals on December 5-7.

France Gordon 'Sf' Giry
Gordon 'Sf' Giry
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
183
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Germany Simon 'smn' Beck
Simon 'smn' Beck
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
165
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.11
France Hovik 'KQLY' Tovmassian
Hovik 'KQLY' Tovmassian
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
250
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Sweden Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1511
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.18
hehe flushathings ! ps : "i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." xDDDDDDDD
2014-11-30 17:10
flusha'stearsaredelicious
2014-11-30 17:11
#justflushatears
2014-11-30 17:19
+1 hes a great player people just are getting enjoyment out of giving hate to someone.
2014-11-30 17:28
#174
mason | 
World PRQN 
"i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." stopped reading there
2014-11-30 17:22
+1
2014-11-30 17:26
+1 plz ban that fat boy :P
2014-11-30 18:34
then you missed the best part when he called all of us a fuckning joke. Hate him
2014-11-30 20:38
From what I found his mouse configs are: Windows: 6/11 DPI: 400 Ingame Sens: 1.85 all at 1024x768 Here's my configs: Windows 6/11 DPI: 400 Ingame Sense at 1.8 at either 1920x1080 or 1280x1024 or 1280x960 and even then, the amount of swipes needed to move around isn't even that big. For flusha in a 1024x768 to be needing 2 swipes to spin 120 degrees is just plain stupid and big lie. In that low of a resolution and at those sensitivity, it should be faster than mines requiring less movement to do the same thing I'm doing.
2014-11-30 21:30
Oh yeah, because every mouse has the exact same specifications. Jezus, are you really this stupid or just trolling? I'm using the following; Windows: 6/11 DPI: 800 Ingame Sens: 1.3 1280x960 and I have to sweep my mouse like a silly motherfucker. Also, you're assuming he is using the entire mousemat. For instance.. I'm just using like 15/20 centimetres of my mousemat because that's what I'm used to for about the 8 years I'm playing competitive counterstrike (Wrist player). For me to make a 180 degree turn, I need to sweep like 2 times as well. Now stop being ignorant like a 7-year old and go back to playing your silver games. Retard.
2014-12-01 10:20
but at 1.8 at 1024x768 you don't even have to sweep that much. that's like having 1.8 on 1280x1024. Oooh soo mature bringing out the age game....ooh I'm soo smart, I just called a guy a retard. I don't even know what to say after that.
2014-12-01 20:50
#1005
AdreN | 
Kazakhstan Aiomie 
B-but kookly also was never banned. Until he was banned. Yes, guise, everyone is never banned until banned... Ok, so he convinced me. I'm so sorry flusha. Forgive me please! OMG FLUSHA IS SON INNOCENT BECAUSE THIS POST IS ALL ABOUT TEARS OF HIM. *imagining flusha crying in pillow all night* So pity... No, flusha definitely not cheater. I cri evritiem for him I'm so sad, can you imagine, I, myself, with my own hands, Destroyed One the best teams in the ENTIRE world! How low I am to do such cruel thing to the besterest team in the Universe! They are fucking heroes, that we need, but don't deserve! *crycrycryclying so much* Kappa. Ps-s, ps-s youtube.com/watch?v=9u0EL_u4nvw take it in your cry journey
2014-11-30 19:59
This post gave me cancer...
2014-11-30 22:48
This is what you guys call aimlock. As flusha said he lifts his mouse alot (possily because he has low mouse sense). youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=65 @1:07 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=118 @2:00 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=124 @2:06 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=521 @8:42 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=852 @14:13 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=862 3 times in the next 5 seconds youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=908 @15:09"
2014-11-30 23:29
#1279
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Germany fjdeN 
-flusha + schneider/twist!!
2014-11-30 23:48
schneider doesnt want to play with fnatic anymore
2014-12-28 17:03
cyka
2014-11-30 17:14
blyat
2014-11-30 17:25
lol u got it
2014-11-30 17:46
haha. thats actually nice we got to see something from inside. "what's up m-f**" nothing very sweet guy "cheater gonna kill you" :D
2014-11-30 19:01
#112
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Europe NX7 
+1 lol
2014-11-30 17:16
xd this guy
2014-11-30 17:18
ayy lmao
2014-11-30 17:18
xd
2014-11-30 17:20
he is using steelseries aimsensei -> low sens.
2014-11-30 17:29
wow. so many haters. everyone needs to take a deep breath and take a couple of steps back. there is no PROOF!! so there is no point in keeping this witch hunt going. i can't help but think that fnatic lost against ldlc due to all the hate that affected their team morally. fnatic are a bunch of hard-working gamers. they have participated in so many online and LAN games... they would have been caught by now if any of them were cheating. But there is still NO PROOF OF CHEATING, so all this hate has to stop! The reality of things on CSGO scene is very grim - a vast majority people don't really care about the teams, it's all about winning their bets. Especially since most people thought ldlc would beat fnatic at DHW 2014 (which they would have if there was no boosting) but fnatic won and skins/money was lost for those who bet on ldldc. I think this just adds to the hate. Nobody cares about the hard work and mindset of the players anymore. You just can't diss flusha - he is one of the greatest CS players of all time. I think people are just having fun going on witchhunts. Social media isn't always a good thing, especially in this case where it's affecting gamers adversely with NO PROOF!! (i can't stress on this enough).
2014-11-30 17:43
k den brother
2014-11-30 17:46
+1
2014-11-30 17:53
#594
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Sweden rblg 
I stopped reading at this "NO PROOF" point when there's literally tons of evidence out there. Not 100% proof but it's impossible to get until/if he get's VAC banned.
2014-11-30 18:13
#704
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Peru unfaithful93 
I really appreciate that u even bother writting this, because, It's kinda useless tbh with this community. Even if they don't have enough proof they keep going, its like a new hobby or something like that. And the hate increased by being losing their skins recently, I don't bother If I lose, because It's a risk that you DECIDE to take. Anyways, I'm kinda upset with this kind of shit, I can't imagine how does he feel, for sure all this shit it's affects their performance.
2014-11-30 18:43
The proof is there, are you blind?
2014-11-30 19:32
#749
Poland StC 
There are a hell of a lot proofs.
2014-11-30 18:50
show me atleast one...
2014-11-30 19:52
Have you not been on the Internet the past two weeks? There's dozens of clips of him locking onto heads through walls. Scroll through this thread and I'm sure you'll find plenty.
2014-12-01 00:57
There's a reason why we're not targetting any other player.. because we can't find any proof on them. Flusha however...
2014-11-30 19:20
Hellraisers held a competition to see if the community could find evidence that made it look like like angel was cheating. Guy had something together in 2 hours and won the competition. It's more like some kid that doesn't like Fnatic presented some premade clips and the community cuaght on... That does not = proof sry m8
2014-12-01 19:14
premade clips?? more like demo recordings. get out of here you delusional sheepling
2014-12-01 20:33
+ 1
2014-11-30 19:38
hahahahahahaha
2014-11-30 18:02
99% DMG'S in this community
2014-11-30 18:11
Silver elite***
2014-11-30 20:06
Ok seriously , cant people start realize that your ruining the whole CS:GO community by this shit, those who say that Flusha cheat either is a silver scrub or a jealous retard, nuff said you imbeciles.....
2014-11-30 19:16
+1 dislike fnatic but dislike everyone else a lot more after this month.
2014-11-30 20:51
100% with you on this one...
2014-11-30 21:11
I loved that part ! but what about shooting walls ? is that a new tactic ? youtube.com/watch?v=u77JW8rU2ok
2014-11-30 19:24
NO VAC BAN = NO CHEAT. It's as simple as that. Pro gamers are much better than us simpletons so they understand the game much better and can aim at smoke or whatever by listening to steps or estimating the corners and strats from the other team.
2014-11-30 20:10
VAC is not ideal. There are many ways to cheat and not get banned.
2014-11-30 20:57
#1291
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Germany fjdeN 
thats right^^ and 90% of the flamers who hatin flusha are master guardian or goldnova boons. but many pros and better players said he is cheating also
2014-12-01 00:24
Yes, because if VAC doesn't know it, it isn't a cheat.. Think this through, murica.
2014-11-30 23:54
Community is rly so shit omfg
2014-11-30 20:17
+1
2014-11-30 20:52
Same goes fnatic
2014-12-02 11:29
Flusha is fat and lazy, he is looking for a shortcut to succes, ofc he is cheating. JW is fat and lazy, probably a cheater also.
2014-11-30 20:43
So the proof of JW cheating is that his fat and lazy? IRL facepalm
2014-11-30 23:17
Biggest shit I've ever read
2014-11-30 20:55
cLy me a river! +1 "i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." HAHAHAHA priceless, stop crying. Av med offerkoftan.
2014-11-30 21:20
#1304
rain | 
Norway Rudra2 
youtube.com/watch?v=HjLHduTNxlQ Fnatic in a nutshell, after I saw this (sure its old, not all the current players in the roster) I lost all the respect I had left for the organization.
2014-12-01 00:56
you realize aurora is a fan of fnatic and will defend them until the end? nice nick bro.
2014-12-01 02:23
wow cool story bro who cares
2014-12-01 07:54
This mouse lifting comes from the old times when we had balls inside of a mouse if you remember, kids doesn't know. But yeah I totally understand flusha :D
2014-12-01 08:19
:DD
2014-12-01 08:20
There is no making the community understand. And the fact that they can't just immediately burn him at the stake for supposed crimes as they did during real witch hunts, only makes kids with egos more angry. There is no logic anymore.
2014-12-01 19:17
quit fnatic csgo, it will best news ever
2014-12-01 19:53
bullshit
2014-12-02 04:27
#2
Argentina ffdd 
:c
2014-11-30 17:09
#62
Finland Baas 
c:
2014-11-30 17:13
Funny that lurPISS is writing this news, when he accuse flusha of cheating on twitter. fucking retarded he is
2014-11-30 18:03
rofl flusha is obvious hack
2014-11-30 18:17
#1109
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Sweden fued 
is he a hack himself?
2014-11-30 20:51
n1
2014-11-30 17:09
close.
2014-11-30 17:09
l0l
2014-11-30 22:36
/q me on irc when u see this btw
2014-12-01 15:10
#7
Estonia Defex 
still a cheater
2014-11-30 17:09
victim card wont work on me, get fucked
2014-11-30 17:09
Who expects anything other from an ignorant fool? An ignorant fool doesn't think An ignorant fool is easily manipulated An ignorant fool can't motivate their opinion An ignorant fool is a tool for authorities to control public opinion It's fair for you to be one. And it's equally fair for you and everyone around you to know exactly what a weak minded fool you are
2014-11-30 17:37
i think it applies to you aswell bro , fanboy spotted ?
2014-11-30 17:42
Yeah? I based my comment on pure facts. He has an opinion which he can't motivate. That's the very definition of an ignorant fool.
2014-11-30 17:51
like you said it's an opinion and he doesn't need to prove his facts if he doesn't want to, for your comment, i really think it applies really well to fnatic fanboy you should make a ©
2014-11-30 17:58
HE CAN'T PROVE IT. Because there exist no evidence to prove his opinion right. An average intelligent person would stay humble and neutral in this situation since it's a serious accusation that can ruin a person's whole career. But like I said, it's ok for you and "randombs" to be ignorant fools. Just don't expect your behavior to go unnoticed. You've proven to be vegetables, and vegetables you are
2014-11-30 18:06
#613
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Sweden rblg 
You realize you are not staying neutral but taking a side when you yell this "HE CAN'T PROVE IT" nonsense? There is evidence that suggests he could very well be cheating. An objective, neutral point of view would be saying something like "Oh, it seems like he is cheating", because that's exactly how it looks like. Saying he doesn't cheat is plain wrong because you can't prove he doesn't cheat either.
2014-11-30 18:18
+1
2014-11-30 18:19
Did I say he doesn't cheat? I don't have an opinion in this matter because I don't have the knowledge to judge if he's cheating or not. However, my general standpoint is: not guilty until proven otherwise. In the matter of him cheating or not, I stay neutral. And those "evidence" you're talking about is too weak. Currently thousands of hours from demos of Flusha have been scanned in search for suspicious actions. Of course you will find them. If the same analysis was directed to other pro players I'm sure you would find an equal amount of "evidence".
2014-11-30 18:32
"I'm sure you would find..." Sound like there's a little bit of doubt to me with that statement. Your reasoning is weak. flusha cheats
2014-11-30 19:26
#1029
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Sweden rblg 
The problem with this "not guilty until proven otherwise" thing is that it's so hard to prove someone guilty. It's amazing that we have found as much evidence as we have now, with flusha it's unlike any other pro player. You have to realize that with such advanced hacks we won't find any more convincing proof from demos, even if the player was cheating all the time. It's bad luck from the cheaters that we have even found this much - if they had developed their cheats properly, this wouldn't happen. VAC managed to ban KQLY and Sf but it was due to external help - something that might very well not happen again in a year or two. You can always take this "we don't have 100% proof so he is innocent" attitude but that will ensure that we will have lots of cheaters in the pro scene. I'm not sure if we want that - then again, I'm not sure if we have an option. The evidence is not too weak if you know how the cheats work and have played the game competitively for a long enough time. The actions depicted in the videos/gifs are extremely rare. I don't agree that you will find the equal amount of evidence. Lots of people have said that but nobody has been able to prove their words.
2014-11-30 20:07
Don't try, they got the 'if you're not w ith me, you're against me' mentality.
2014-11-30 20:13
#1299
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Germany fjdeN 
After 7 hours i stopped searching in gtr Demos ...
2014-12-01 00:46
lol is there any neutral person in hltv ? for the victim card i think fnatic is really using it now , crying to get some compassion look at devilwalk twitter even in this statement. you have a point on the career, but why we don't have 10 clips of gtr f0rest show and other ? you've got your opinion and we've got ours, if you were neutral and an average intelligent person with all the clips your opinion about flusha wouldn't be he's clean i'm really sure. The card VACBAN is not really allowed because you can be sure there's cheater , there's always cheater and always be, cheat now are to sophisticate , before it was speedhack wh and aimbot so it was pretty obvious now cheat are too much even on LAN you can't be sure 100% there is no cheat
2014-11-30 18:19
We have obviously different opinions. Mine, based on facts and yours, based on suspicions. That is the distinct difference between us. Which also gives me the right to call you less intelligent or fool
2014-11-30 18:39
well i can understand having differents opinion but in your comment you seems to judge people, so i can't understand that you can't make a judgement/opinion from the clips and from fnatic behavior. So you are the kind of guy who's never wrong and can't take people opinion (cf less intelligent average intelligent neutral fool) keep it up dude :)
2014-11-30 18:52
I'm getting your point here, and it's valid. The thing is, you are judging a person without proper evidence. This opinion of yours, when voiced publicly can ruin a person's career. That is not fair, that is not justice. As a result of your unjustified damage of another person's career I judge your behavior which I think is the least punishment you deserve
2014-11-30 19:05
Its not ruining anyones career. Flusha is the most soft skinned baby if these accusations really got to him. Brb playing the victom
2014-11-30 19:11
i don't think i said flusha cheat , i said he's suspect based on the clips, so your point is useless. But i said fnatic deserve the hate they're getting right now especially devilwalk he's crying now after all he did.
2014-11-30 19:23
the only weak minded fool here is flusha actually. only a weak minded fool would let haters get under your skin so much you can't enjoy the game anymore
2014-11-30 17:44
Wow, another vegetable without knowledge, life experience and intelligence. The fact that he even couldn't play the rematch because his organization was forced to leave the tournament, because of the hate storm, hasn't got through to you yet apparently.
2014-11-30 17:51
Fnatic getting forced out of the tournament? Feel free to take that blindfold off already.
2014-11-30 18:09
Yes, the decision to forfeit was made by the fnatic management in order to control the damage of their brand. My point: flusha wasn't even able to play, no matter if he wanted or not, due to this unjustified hate storm
2014-11-30 18:12
#780
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
why would the management force the forfeit instead of replay the map and potentially win thousands of dollars more than 5th-8th?
2014-11-30 18:55
Maybe you need to update yourself on the events of the recent days. The Fnatic brand has been severely damaged by the hate on social media. The best option for them was to forfeit in order to minimize the damage of their brand.
2014-11-30 19:11
#961
method | 
United States f0xes` 
Whatever helps you sleep at night. Maybe next time they won't fuck themselves over.
2014-11-30 19:41
im pretty sure the best thing for the 'brand' would be to try and win $100,000 not forfeit and go home with 10% of that amount. simply being ok with a rematch would not do any damage to their brand whatsoever. that damage had already been done by the players using the boost. they had nothing to lose.
2014-11-30 20:14
had they played the rematch and won, the shitstorm would be even bigger, because the match didn't start at 13:3 or whatever the community demanded. Plus mere 100k is not a lot for a big company.
2014-11-30 20:53
how would the shitstorm be bigger? a rematch was a totally fair compromise after both teams complained about the other using an illegal boost. it was the only solution. and im sorry but missing out on $90,000 i dont care what size your org is thats still substantial cash that could be used to fund probably a years worth of your csgo teams costs for travel, hotel etc with some change left over.
2014-11-30 21:21
Getting tired of the ignorance on this forum 3rd tweet down mobile.twitter.com/fnaticdevilwalk
2014-11-30 18:56
Doesn't matter what he says. The management would never had let them continue to play. The decision to forfeit was the best they could do in order to protect their brand
2014-11-30 19:15
swedish fanboy detected
2014-11-30 17:50
I'm all for justice. Unjustified hate should be punished at all costs.
2014-11-30 17:52
it's not unjustified that's what you're not getting the game after they did their boost was unfair and people were leaving the stream because of fnatic behavior , also i don't know if you looked devilwalk itw after match being an arrogant kid etc.. they just get what they deserve for me Oh and flusha , well look the clips , it's because he lift his mouse that he follow people through walls and aimlock some of them ? youtube.com/watch?v=wcmRR0zsYBo&feature=.. don't tell me this one is not funny ;) , if you saw all those clips with the name "the suspect" instead of fnatic flusha your opinion wouldn't be the same i'm pretty sure of that
2014-11-30 18:05
Don't mix the boost-issue into this. The hate-hype is all about the false cheat accusations. Give me solid evidence of him cheating and I will be the first one to send it to VALVE. Without solid evidence you stay humble until proven guilty
2014-11-30 18:10
so you're not an average intteligent person , and neutral ?
2014-11-30 18:21
and i don't mix i take facts , im not speaking for flusha but the whole team , they get what they deserve for me ,and don't get into deaththreats etc... if you're an average intelligent person , i'm pretty sure you know what i'm saying
2014-11-30 18:23
Show me solid fucking evidence that motivates the enormous hate storm they currently are the subject of. You can't. Don't waste your time linking suspicious youtube vids
2014-11-30 18:47
you're not reading stop being blind.
2014-11-30 18:57
#635
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
Read the fucking youtube vids comments. He's watching mid, not everyone stares straight at where the crosshair is pointing all the time, there's a lot more screen to look at that can also be useful. Once you realise that he's watching the thin gap to see mid it doesn't look remotely dodgy anymore.
2014-11-30 18:26
Please do me the favor and send these comments on youtube to VALVE. Why didn't anyone think of this before? The waterproof evidence of flusha cheating was right there before our eyes, in the youtube comments.
2014-11-30 18:50
I don't think you read my post properly, or maybe just misunderstood it. I agree with you, there is no concrete evidence and the Youtube comments I mentioned are the ones that give a perfectly reasonable and believeable explanation for Flusha's movements in that round. Calm down you arse.
2014-11-30 22:46
i didn't read the comment i based my opinion from the video , i can understand for looking mid , but why he moved his crosshair to follow the guys appartment ,for me if he was looking for mid he wouldn't moved his crosshair after getting a mini line to see mid. Everybody who take a small line don't move they crosshair after , but maybe it's because he lift his mouse(joke).
2014-12-01 11:46
i feel bad for him. Retarded community. Stay strong flusha!
2014-11-30 17:09
lol xD
2014-11-30 17:10
lol nice try flusha
2014-11-30 17:11
ur name says all
2014-11-30 17:17
"fnatic fanboy - <3 fnatic" ROFL
2014-11-30 17:19
LOLOLOLOL BEST TROLL
2014-11-30 17:29
+1
2014-11-30 17:42
"i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." Funny how it always locks onto peoples heads.
2014-11-30 17:09
Always? 10 videos out of thousands of game. But yes, let's say always. :) Edit: What I have posted before a few weeks ago: It looks like flusha is hitting his keyboard and then LIFTS the mouse. You can see when he lifts the mouse since the sensor is picking up on it. :)
2014-11-30 17:18
#57
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
HLTV retard logic : It only locks a few times because he toggles his hacks on/off.
2014-11-30 17:12
You're not krimz's fan anymore? ;_; fnatic need more blind fanboys like you. Please!
2014-11-30 17:13
I'm still a massive fan of Krimz (since LGB days) but i'm sick of explaining to every single forum member that i'm NOT a fan of fnatic. The only team I am a fan of is VP.
2014-11-30 17:23
Do you even understand how the hack works. It`s never constantly on, its an aimkey that locks on to the nearest opponent. If he did it 10 times a half it would be laughably obvious. The whole point of the hack is that its a wallhack that cant be detected on LAN by people watching behind. Anyway he only uses it in crucial moments when he really has to. there are many games when he doesnt toggle once
2014-11-30 17:26
more like 40 videos in one tournament. But keep lying fnatic fanboys.
2014-11-30 17:13
more like 10 videos from the last tournament lol
2014-11-30 17:26
+1. People dont are too dumb to realise.
2014-11-30 19:05
#41
HEN1 | 
Poland maxiu 
hahaha funny is how many times he lock on model throught the wall :D
2014-11-30 17:11
#79
Kazakhstan stb- 
:D
2014-11-30 17:14
QQ
2014-11-30 17:10
No fuck given. Or actually yes, it's a good riddance if for one time they do what they say.
2014-11-30 17:12
He hasn't said that he hadn't been cheating.
2014-11-30 17:11
Valid point, sir. I dislike him for the overpass glitch cheat, in fact I started to dislike them all for that. Is that how you want to compete as a professional then you aren't one! Period!
2014-11-30 17:26
a swedish exception nice to see
2014-11-30 18:07
We exist, have hope my friend.
2014-11-30 19:21
Then I presume you dislike everyone in LDLC as well. Just putting it out there. Both teams broke the same rule and abused the same glitch. You're probably going to retort with the fact that they used it to a lesser extent, but your point should still stand, unless you're basing your dislike on some former bias. Certain people are just extremely competitive by nature and will tiptoe around rules to gain an advantage. This has been common ever since 1.6 but this is the first time it's actually frowned upon. If you're going to discredit professionals for trying to be innovative and bringing something new to the game, then we'll have an extremely stale game. I realize that some of you simpletons will twist and turn this post to look like I'm trying to justify fnatic's actions. I do not condone what they did nor what LDLC did, both broke the rules and are hypocrites. But you are all being extremely close minded because of some questionable videos and while I never expected much of the HLTV.org community, this is a new low.
2014-11-30 20:21
i don't dislike everyone in fnatic actually just devilwalk , for the ldlc boost it seemed more legit and when you compare smithzz and olof kills from the boost it speaks for itself. innovative move and new things is good , but their boost and the communication around it, made the community against them. Actually when they did it i was surprise and was smilling but after he brought a scar the game had no meaning and no interest so i left the stream because this move should have been stop by admins. They could also tell valve about it, even when they found it they didn't ask themselves some questions ? because it was sure that the spec will lost interest in the game and it was unfair. For the discredit for me it should be against dh.For fnatic they get what they deserve, but it's just my opinion , before this game i had a neutral opinion on fnatic now i don't like them for what they did
2014-11-30 21:14
Yes, I do. Actually I dislike the whole community. The rest of your post is a good example of why I do.
2014-11-30 22:45
16 tick demos don't lie.
2014-11-30 17:10
this made my day xD
2014-11-30 17:13
irrelevant, were talking about a wallhack here. spotting a triggerbot would be hard on 16tick but not WH.
2014-11-30 17:42
So what flusha is actually a silver 2 wallhacker who looks straight at people through walls? kek
2014-11-30 18:00
How do you expect using a real wallhack on LAN would go? Its an aimlock that gives away enemy positions and looks totally legit unless you have x-ray on.
2014-11-30 18:18
RIP CS:GO 2014 - Destroyed by it's own community
2014-11-30 17:10
Yeah, sure. Because CSGO is fnatic, and fnatic are CSGO. pathetic.
2014-11-30 17:12
It begins with fnatic, moves on to NiP, and soon the entire community will accuse everyone of everything... pathetic is only your thinking and fact that you rather seem to suport that idea..
2014-11-30 17:14
What begins? If they didn't bitch with that boost on overpass, they could have won dhw and nobody wouldn't say nothing, - innocent until proven guilty. Competition comes along with suspicions and accusations. Everywhere, not only CS. The thing is that NiP or LDLC were clearly stronger, so fnatic should shut up and train overpass more.
2014-11-30 17:20
But if they didnt use the boost then admin wouldn't have found out that LDLC's boost was also a part of an immortal bug. So keep in mind that LDLC's boost was as illegal as fnatic even though fnatic's boost was 10000% time better. People keep forgetting that LDLC also broke the same rule.
2014-11-30 17:28
Let's make the things clear here. What did get on people's nerves that much is that they were abusing it hard so arrogantly. Because even if that boost was legal but still undiscovered by other players it still should be removed after the first use because if not, overpass would be a useless map for competition, - even now it's the most boring map for me personally. So the arrogance was what made people mad. And I'm not here to defend LDLC or something.
2014-11-30 17:37
also devilwalk interview after game , that's why all the hate, they are crying after being arrogant and being moron it's just the result of their acts.
2014-11-30 17:52
-olofpass +season or eventually tuscan in 2025
2014-11-30 18:04
maybe because all the clips we saw are really suspect ?
2014-11-30 17:47
wtf are you talking about man? "it begins with fnatic, moves on to NIP" WHAT???
2014-11-30 17:59
There already was a subtle twist towards LDLC last night. Dno if there still are these hate threads about "whiny (insert word) LDLC". Oh well, angry teens need to be angry at something. Someone should do what that australian reporter did. Start telling their mothers how they behave on the internet.
2014-11-30 17:59
3 pro players that got banned a week before dreamhack didnt get as much as hate combined as fnatic did for an ingame boost and cheat allegations which can make any pro player look suspicious to a low skilled scrub.
2014-11-30 17:16
who said they didn't get as much hate? that's only your IMO.
2014-11-30 17:22
I watched reddit, hltv, the twitter of players involved and trending hashtags when all incidents occured. As a neutral spectator and fan of competitive counter-strike this is my opinion, yes.
2014-11-30 17:32
But probably it seemed so because all that VACs went in 1 bandwagon? I think if the VACs had some interlapse an amount of rage would be much bigger.
2014-11-30 17:42
No fnatic have gotten way way way more hate then SF, KQLY, and SMN. Most of their "hate" was harmless jokes about going on vaccation. Flusha hasn't been banned and you all decide valve isn't doing it right and you are going to take it upon yourselves to nail him to the wall. This is honestly the worst thing I have seen in my 10+ years of competitive gaming.
2014-11-30 19:10
You all this, you all that... You prescribe me things I've never done, dude.
2014-11-30 19:15
I'm not saying you as in madheadder, but as in the community.
2014-11-30 19:32
People were litterally burning fnaticpads and throwing eggs at the fnaticmonter at DH O.O.
2014-11-30 20:00
When did it exactly happen?
2014-11-30 20:04
Yes 3 people who got VAC BANNED, they got what they deserved, fnatic still went unpunished. you should try use to logic sometimes.
2014-11-30 22:36
maybe becuz fnatic is more often in the spotlight of disgraceful things? remember back when they played ot vs nip and refuses 2 handshake, cuz the ot settings were fail - just kids being kids. "just an ingame boost" ye a fkn half-cheatlike boost, which ruined the concept of cs entirely in that match, but yeah keep saying to urself what u wanna hear.
2014-11-30 17:23
Destroyed by FNATIC
2014-11-30 18:00
the more you deny your cheating, the more hate you will receive.
2014-11-30 17:10
Now I get it, the aimlock in cache and hitting 8 bullets through wall while enemy moving was just Flusha lifting his mouse.
2014-11-30 17:10
10000000000000000000+
2014-11-30 17:12
rofl
2014-11-30 17:14
hahaha +1
2014-11-30 17:15
Guess n0thing cheated aswell in 1.6 then :) youtube.com/watch?v=gTwKXEOhN_U
2014-11-30 17:38
He did cheat in 1.6.
2014-11-30 17:45
You're an idiot.
2014-11-30 17:46
finally someone who got it! it just happens in case u lift ur mouse more often than the average-joe. all these haters ;S
2014-11-30 17:56
not sure if sarcasm or just stupid
2014-11-30 19:11
Kappa
2014-11-30 23:57
"i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." this for sure explains how he aimlocked on players Kappa
2014-11-30 17:10
u can "sometimes" lock on somebody with that but not like flusha's doing it
2014-11-30 17:25
bring on the bandwagon
2014-11-30 17:10
most of the ''aimlocks'' actually never was directly on the players head. really close surtantly. but if you play 1000+ games everyone does that the 10-15 times he has done it just stup this stupid witch hunt alrdy...
2014-11-30 17:17
Not saying he cheats or doesn't but he had plenty of them within 1 tournament or just 1 game even. Yes if you look at pro players they will have this happen sometimes, but this has been way more than just sometimes. Its multiple times a game most of the time.
2014-11-30 17:59
#23
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Norway Drolsum 
pussy
2014-11-30 17:10
#25
vsm | 
Sweden deejaro 
no motivation for cheaters? woooo gj community!
2014-11-30 17:11
gl flusha and fnatic stay strong much love form NIP fan
2014-11-30 17:11
nice try flusha
2014-11-30 17:11
haahah im no flusha i cant say this cuz im NIP fan????? and i need to hate fantic pfff
2014-11-30 17:12
plot twist; he is not cheating. GJ comunity for bringing the level of the game down a notch if not eeven two...
2014-11-30 17:18
lifting his mouse toggles aimlock, hltv confirmed
2014-11-30 17:11
#29
Finland Brjw 
No enjoyement to watch the game when fnatic using cheap tricks to win.
2014-11-30 17:11
innocent until proven guilty. Yes the community went full retard of the KQLY-hype.
2014-11-30 17:11
It just doesn't many ANY sense whatsoFUCKINGever, whenever we go back to see his the replays, you Flusha ALWAYS ends up with looking STRAIGHT at his enemies through walls.. even holds the aim at them for a good while, you cannot call this a "coincidence" as it happens almost every match, it was spotted too at their match VS LDLC when flusha sat at stairs towards T spawn looking towards the water pipes.
2014-11-30 17:11
<3 flusha
2014-11-30 17:11
i cri evrytaim
2014-11-30 17:11
i believe in you flusha dont care about this mindless haters gogo fnatic :D
2014-11-30 17:11
We're mindless? damn so much to back it up with you "mindless" fanboy.
2014-11-30 17:18
Mindless because: Went from no one cheats to everyone cheats in a matter of hours to the point when anyone even gets a remotely good frag or two is cheating Jumping on a bandwagon and spamming shitty 100x100 gfycats and calling them evidence Death threats Still using that WRTT vs ESC game as evidence of anything kek
2014-11-30 18:05
+ many more reasons
2014-11-30 19:42
xitar
2014-11-30 17:11
rip flusha, good job guys .
2014-11-30 17:11
:D:D
2014-11-30 18:47
"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke" "this is why i have never cared about the community, social medias and other stuff like that. I only do these things for the sponsors of my team." Yeah, I'm sure that'll convince people that you're a good guy and a great player.
2014-11-30 17:12
+1
2014-11-30 17:14
#74
India pulp 
excatly, his sponsors who forced him to do this must be mad.
2014-11-30 17:14
I wonder how fnatic and carn like the fact that one of their players publicly announces that the community is a fucking joke and he dosen't care about them.
2014-11-30 17:22
nothing wrong with flusha stating the obvious.
2014-11-30 18:44
That's his honest opinion and take on things, I get this. But if I was sponsoring fnatic, I would not want the player to insults the community towards whom all the advertisement and sponsoring is directed to. He should just keep his mouth shut or lie.
2014-11-30 19:02
they would never hire someone who could be permanently swayed by such weak and trivial evidence
2014-11-30 19:43
what? wrong reply?
2014-11-30 19:47
#718
czech | 
Slovakia harek 
why don't you try to read (carefully)the post before you respond?
2014-11-30 18:47
He's right though.
2014-11-30 17:27
You guys all have to stop spreading this shit, eventho some clips are weird. we just can't know, flusha has been one of the strongest fnatic player from the beggining and all of a sudden everybody started thinking he is cheating (including me), but he just can't be banned just by watching those clips, no way, maybe it's his gamestyle and he has been unlucky on swiping his mouse onto people through wall. maybe we'll never know, maybe he never cheated, maybe he did. in all cases, we just can't know and the only think everyone has to do right now is to get out of his head the cheating scandal otherwise CS just gonna fall down and we will all regret what we did. one of the biggest mistake here has been proplayers and CS personalities taking position publicly. just respect players and teams, eventho you've been thinking they cheated, it can only get worse. just enjoy CS as you always been and let Valve do their job, the future will tell us but it just cant continue in that way. what do you expect? players banned on record, lel? players retiring? wouldnt you feel bad in the case they always been legit and they had to quit their work and their passion because you follow the wave and can't think about direct consequences? just stop, and let the things happen or not.
2014-11-30 17:12
say it to lurppis
2014-11-30 17:13
plus 1
2014-11-30 18:14
" Flusha has been one of the strongest fnatic player from the beginning " Fuck off, these last couple of months he has been nothing but a twat and his "coincidences" of looking through walls happens too often to be normal.
2014-11-30 17:16
and nope he can fuck off, we dont need cheater nor do we need people like them.
2014-11-30 17:16
+1
2014-11-30 17:17
in several leages flusha would got instaban for most of his actions.
2014-11-30 17:59
In most leagues admins behind are people without any real knowledge of the game and most semi pros and even just good players would get banned or called a cheater.
2014-11-30 20:39
there are enough corrupted admins who let u hack in league without banning u in case u bribe them. some admins do cheat themselves, some esl-admins had been mods in hacker-boards etc. in case u have a friend who s admin, most support-tickets get deleted shortly. esl is prob. the most retarded league, even tho i would have been insta-banned in case i would hack the way flusha did. whoever tells flusha is clean, did never hack on his own.
2014-11-30 21:24
<3 flusha
2014-11-30 17:12
#54
mason | 
Tunisia mason~ 
no #1 :(?
2014-11-30 17:12
I thought the LoL community is retarded. Not anymore.
2014-11-30 17:12
Only thing I can think of is karma. You get whats deserved. Other pro players are streaming, interacting with community via twitter, facebook and interviews, generally has a positive reputation, as paszha, friberg, f0rst, get_right, NBK, shox, DaZed, device, FeTiSh, TaZ and so on, just to mention a few. They are likeable. This cant be said about fnatic, I have never seen any of the players streaming - okay, maybe its not their thing, so be it. Then you see interviews in studio in Fragbite LAN 2-3 weeks ago, all proplayers entering studio was nice and was likeable, actually pronax was too. But this Krimz guy and olofmeister was horrible, so bad answers, didnt seem to care much about expressing feelings about their wins and so on. Also zero emotions while playing all games and winning, they were so boring, besides being the best team in the world at that point. Only JW tried to spice things a little up, but not good enough. And this devilwalk guy is also kinda annoying, I admire his confidence and arrogance which he expressed 1st day of DH in interview, but again, that isnt likeable. That aint getting more fans. Why not say that you respect all the good teams here, especially LDCL and hopefully we get some good matches? Simple. Also interview after olofpass was horrible, just standing there with a smerk on his face: "We have known for 2 months" - oh god, you just want to be hated? Idiot. Worst coach in all top teams for sure. Furthermore, its obvious that when it is realized that flusha has obviously cheated, and none of the players, organization or whatsoever trys to communicate or express that they are taking distance from such accusations, it makes it look worse. I dont know if the other teammembers know that flusha has cheated and they all are in on it, or they are unaware. But lets say they didnt knew, and of course they are also questioning his playstyles, which again produces doubt in the team and they dont know what to do... I think there will be rosterchange or maybe some is gonna "retire" because they cant trust anyone, especially flusha. Lastly, funny how he uses same statement as Bjarne Riis (winner tour de france 1996): "I have never been caught taking EPO" - And well, it lasted till a couple of years ago, when he admitted to taking EPO. I see what you did there, flusha ;-)
2014-11-30 17:19
+1+1+1
2014-11-30 17:15
+1
2014-11-30 17:17
all fnatic players did stream on Azubu, but i guess you just looked at Twitch :)
2014-11-30 17:17
People from fnatic are streaming (only because you don't see them streaming> does not mean they are not)...Just watch facebook feed for once..JW usually streams on azubu.tv And his teammates would never question his playstyle as they may know him for many years of playing CS...yet that is another thing you, people, can't understand...
2014-11-30 17:17
Okay, didnt know he used another streamingsite. Nevertheless, it obviously havent been very popular or likeable for viewers. So you think NONE of the 4 other players, or cArn, has watched all this evidence that he has used aimlock, and not thought: "Hmm, maybe flusha has been cheating, fuck man..." ? Thats just bullshit :) I even think they will kick him or he will "retire" after this.
2014-11-30 17:23
+1 noone will miss them if they finally leave
2014-11-30 17:21
If the 4 other players hasnt been involved in flushas cheating or even used cheat themselves, then I will definitely miss good Counter-Strike at the big LANs, which is one of the positive things about fnatic. Always has been good games and good CS ingame. Though it is kinda ruined for me after flusha obviously used cheat.
2014-11-30 17:28
+1 i always enjoyed watching fnatic - its all gone. i even start questioning way back into the past ... who knows. maybe some people should check old demos with wh, maybe aimlocks were happening that times too way back in glory glory glory (cheaty?) 1.6 times of fnatic ...
2014-11-30 18:43
You have a point there. But you can't criticize or blame them for not interacting enough with the community or not expressing their feelings and be outgoing persons in interviews on LANs and stuff like that. As you say, maybe its not their thing, and if thats the case, it needs to be accepted. People are different in these situations. They just enjoy doing what they do. Sadly people can't accept that. I always think of the old 1.6 Na'Vi team with markeloff when i see this fnatic team. How both teams suddenly came into the scene and dominated every team. I don't know what fnatic needs, maybe patience and even more reputation to prove that people are wrong about them. People tends to get this negative attitude against them, probably as you say, because they are not as open to the community as other players like pasha, shox, scream and people who are streaming alot.
2014-11-30 18:30
You can't judge people from their personality, they may not be as likeable as other players, they may not use social media a lot, but in the end it's not their job and that's not the reason to hate them, imo.
2014-11-30 18:51
Thats right. But they cant come running afterwards and crying, as flusha and devilwalk is doing now and calling the community shit (although HLTV users kinda are), yet they havent done anything to make themselves likeable as players. It all escaleted after it was known that fluasha has been cheating. No surprise they are getting hate, cheating is like the worst thing you can do as a pro and "role-model".
2014-11-30 19:03
"It all escalated after it was known that flusha has been cheating." Ugh... he's not banned, so it's kind of not known. I'm not saying that he's not, but... arguments can be made that he's not cheating. That's why it's not "karma", that's karma created by community for the probability of him actually cheating. And when community is shitting on you that hard, it's obvious that they would complain.
2014-11-30 19:25
Dont want to argue whether or not he is cheating. It is obvious to me that he is for multiple reasons. It is karma - you do something bad and will come hit you back later. It was his own choice to cheat and make a fool of his team, opponents, events and the game. Just dont do it, there will be consequences.
2014-11-30 19:31
Imagine if flusha didn't cheat for you, would the "karma" be reasonable?
2014-11-30 20:04
In a fantasyland where flusha has not cheated, then of course, the treatment and flame towards him isnt reasonable. Too bad this isnt the case :-) If he, if we are still in fantasyland, hasnt cheated, then he should turn the hate to motivation for himself, and a compliment to his CS-skills and have a gigantic laugh about it.
2014-11-30 20:09
Well... he hasn't been proven to be cheating.Yeah yeah, he's suspicious, can't deny that. Do you remember the JW case(if you were around during early cs:go) when he was accused of cheating also cause of suspicious videos? idk, opinions stay opinions.
2014-11-30 20:32
Not VAC-proven, no. But VAC is destroyed, it doesnt work, you have to be able to make your own conclusions on what your eyes see. :) Yeah I was. I think he admitted it himself that he cheated back then, and many has pointed out that he did. That doesnt mean he is cheating now, actually cheating can enhance your gameplay, when you arent cheating. But it proves that he has the mentality to cross the limit of what is right and wrong when gaming. :)
2014-11-30 20:36
Sure, VAC doesn't have the best reputation of the best anti-cheat. But your own conclusions make opinion, rather than a point that he cheats. And I don't remember him actually saying that he cheated, but nvm.
2014-11-30 20:47
#48
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Finland NUCL3AR 
no compassion for this cheater, nice try
2014-11-30 17:12
"i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." He should try to lift his mouse during a gunfight, he'd be a god
2014-11-30 17:12
xaxaxaxa
2014-11-30 17:42
bye bye flushacker
2014-11-30 17:12
imagine if these guys really don't cheat, the community destroys the best team of the past months
2014-11-30 17:12
What if they were cheating? They destroyed the scene forever and everyone will quit playing.
2014-11-30 20:26
If they really don't cheat, then perhaps they could be more open about these things. They haven't done anything but calling this community a joke. That is not good for your reputation. I don't think they cheat and at this point I don't even care. They lost all respect with that gamebreaking play of theirs in Olofpass. That is so childish. I have always thought they are kinda weird and not very community friendly. But being friendly and close with community is part of being A PROFESSIONAL. If you get hurt by hate talk then it is your problem as well. For example Lurppis is also hated quite a lot, but he doesn't care! He has confidence in himself and he gives back with arguments, that are sometimes quite aggressive but people aren't always giving reasonable arguments and Lurppis is relatively smart person :D but most importantly confident.
2014-11-30 22:53
confirmed, if I lift my mouse "ALOT" it locks onto players. volvo dont patch this bug please!
2014-11-30 17:13
+1+1+1
2014-11-30 17:26
Ofc, i didn't expect him to confess that he cheated :)
2014-11-30 17:13
He only says he never been caught :p
2014-11-30 17:13
#68
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Spain akproxx 
i u dont want hate DONT FUCKING CHEAT
2014-11-30 17:14
then why do all the vacced players lift their mouse the same way as you m8
2014-11-30 17:14
Flusha mate cmon
2014-11-30 17:14
Sad? No! I'm glad you guys could leave CS. Even though you really dont cheat, your team's unsportmanship has nearly destroy DHW14 and the whole community. I'd rather dismiss your guys if I'm cArn. You are a pro, you should act like a pro. This is fucking stupid.
2014-11-30 17:14
are you fucking serious you butthurt baguette kid? Did you just say that THEY ruined DHW14, yet LDLC are the PROs, Winners, etc.? Are you just fucking serious now? How the fuck can you be so inobjective about CS:GO... LDLC uses pixelboost/bugboost for already month, and yet none of you gives a single flying fuck and when fnatic does similar thing, yet improved, you go ape nuts? You are a pure disgrace of community. Too bad there is more of you like that.
2014-11-30 17:20
u mad bro
2014-11-30 18:29
He's just hypocrite, all teams uses scketchy boosts... just because his favourite team didn't found this one that's way better than theirs, he's mad at it. Ldlc used their boost agaisn't NiP before fnatic match, they should have lost that match. But there you go, curse a team you dislike and praise the team you like for the same behaviour.
2014-11-30 22:19
Nightstalky are you objective your self? Why didn't LDLD's spot get attention? Because it is close to fucking USELESS at least on the way they used it. Are YOU serious when you say Fnatic's boost was legit and totally fair play? They sat on it for 2 months just to save it for this tournament. That is not just having "wild card" because it is exploiting and gamebreaking. The casters and Fifflaren during the stream after the game said it the best. Map maker did not intend for that spot to be there. The teams and players have been asked for the whole existence of CS:GO to give feedback and ideas for improvement. The teams were complaining about Overpass after Cologne and the map was improved. That is the kind of stuff that teams need to do if they want it to make the game even better. But no, these childish idiots sit on this exploit for so long and only win because of that and not fair play and skill.
2014-11-30 23:01
Actually, the community destroyed DHW. once they read NBK's twitter posts, they put on their daddy pants, and it was all downhill from there. I don't see fnatic whining about anything, even thought the situation they were in was very unfortunate and LDLC should be extremely lucky that they got to the semi's
2014-11-30 19:48
didnt read when I saw your flag.
2014-11-30 19:55
#82
World Masp 
loooooooool
2014-11-30 17:14
Sad if he hasn't been cheating. But if his only defence to all of the clips is that he lifts his mouse a lot I surely am not convinced that he hasn't cheated..
2014-11-30 17:14
Do you even lift?
2014-11-30 17:14
gz
2014-11-30 17:14
#88
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Slovakia giveitup 
ok
2014-11-30 17:14
Expected
2014-11-30 17:15
if flusha doesn't get ban then he did't cheat .
2014-11-30 17:15
Worst Logic 2k14
2014-11-30 17:19
So during these 2 years KQLY was not cheating ?
2014-11-30 17:43
if ur momma dont get some kiddos, she never had sex.
2014-11-30 18:04
Ahahaha :D
2014-11-30 18:37
BROLY not cheating, he never got banned and only has a very different playstyle, right?
2014-11-30 18:34
If Stalin wasn't judged then he didn't murder milions of people
2014-11-30 21:22
Good bye fnatic, rip in piece.
2014-11-30 17:15
Fnatic ftw. Just igonre this stupid community that is full of silvers that just cant understand many parts of the game. To all the haters - hate cuz you cant. ;)
2014-11-30 17:15
#96
zehN | 
Finland ludiMacak 
yeye cry more, go quit please
2014-11-30 17:15
#97
Poland hqs- 
i just want esea to have cheat free tournament
2014-11-30 17:15
Fnatic is a joke. flusha is a joke. this statement is a joke. GG and HF lifting your mouse!
2014-11-30 17:15
if you hate the community, thn expect to be hated. fk logic right? fking idiot flusha
2014-11-30 17:15
So, where does he say he hates the community?
2014-11-30 19:00
From now on i would just keep my mouse in the air. Thanks flusha for this pro advice. I'm now getting more headshots than ever.
2014-11-30 17:15
:D xD
2014-11-30 23:12
I'll repost here what I wrote elsewhere. This sounds like the last stand of someone who knows he's busted and the game is up. "Well, if they won't stop accusing me, maybe I can guilt them into stopping by threatening to quit?"
2014-11-30 17:15
trying to incite guilt from the community by saying "this community is a fucking joke, and the only reason i'm making this statement is because of sponsors" i think you're onto something, champ
2014-11-30 19:51
We want $1million prize pools, we want big stages, we want this, we want that, we want everything there is to fucking get.. That this community has the nerves to maintain the entitlement that it does is so far beyond me its unreal, when it's proven time and time again we're just a salty bunch of wannabe Einsteins.. It's so sad what this community has become..
2014-11-30 17:15
Why can't he just admit that he didn't cheat? He is saying: i never got banned, but thats not the fucking same..
2014-11-30 17:16
I think the mods need to just disable the comments on this thread. People are blinded by mad hate right now. He plays well : hacks He plays bad : cheater noob sucks without his cheats flusha is in a no win situation at this point.
2014-11-30 17:16
I agree. If he was cheating, Valve had a chance to ban him before DHW. Also the "aim-locks" check out with his story, that he's just lifts the mouse often. Maybe he cheats, maybe he doesn't, I'm just saying innocent until proven guilty.
2014-11-30 17:20
so broly is innocent too right ?
2014-11-30 17:21
who?
2014-11-30 17:22
google.nl/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&.. a fucking hacker that boost people but who cant get vac banned for months :D
2014-11-30 17:24
clueless... like all fnatic defenders
2014-11-30 17:40
+1
2014-11-30 18:39
+1
2014-11-30 17:21
This community day by day start being more retrarded. Look like 12year kids. Wen he get ban u can say w.e u want but till there stop being retards
2014-11-30 17:16
After VAC banned, the performance of Fnatic is totally different :o . JW no more smoke shot, flusha no more HS , Krimz cant bring the game back :)
2014-11-30 17:16
the problem is that fnatic members doesn't care about VAC ban, cause aim script is already updated and undetectable atm. flusha used it many times against LDLC, HR and the others knows it well...
2014-11-30 17:24
who cares about pathetic cheaters?
2014-11-30 17:17
Too bad the kiddos are destroying CS:GO the moment it begins to shine in eSport with almost 300k viewers during DHW playoffs.
2014-11-30 17:17
or purging the cheaters so the game will be enjoyable u fking baguette.
2014-11-30 23:05
purge began, KQLY and Sf were ban, can't you remember ?
2014-11-30 23:20
Does that mean the purging is at its end? Can't understand if you have bad reading comprehensions or just bad english.
2014-11-30 23:52
It means you have to shut the fuck up on the speculations and wait for actual VAC bans.
2014-12-01 01:22
Lmao you are everything wrong with this world, so I am not allowed to have any opinions even though the evidence is right infront of me? fking baguettes go back to surrendering, your mindset disgust me.
2014-12-01 02:58
And your ignorance about history is even more desgusting. Go back to school
2014-12-01 16:17
lool, was hoping for public cheat confession. Enjoy KQLIFORNIA soon
2014-11-30 17:17
That just made me hate him even harder. What a joke he is.
2014-11-30 17:18
FLusha and fnatic are cheaters. I hope they disband. We dont need those suckers anymore in proscene!
2014-11-30 17:18
"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke, ever since this witch hunt started 9 out of 10 messages to me on twitter/facebook has been insults or deaththreats"
2014-11-30 17:18
Sigh, I really hope fnatic dont disband... I really like them..
2014-11-30 17:18
Expected. Nice story, bro.
2014-11-30 17:19
I don't believe that he cheats. People when see gifs and videos are only paying attention to the crosshair position how about paying attention to the sounds, the info that the team has. even better the player gamesense. For me no one of the fnatic players cheats, they are an amazing team with a very high individual skill and JW and flusha are exemples of that.
2014-11-30 17:19
You can estimate where someone is by sound, yes. But you cant predict THAT exactley where he is that your crosshairs always locks onto his head.
2014-11-30 17:22
actually u can if u have enough gamesense
2014-11-30 17:40
lold
2014-11-30 18:07
why so? It's true flusha as an amazing gamesense and like many others (hiko for example) he can detect where the enemy is. They're map knowledge to position the crosshair like that. sorry but this is my opinion on this and i think it's legit the way flusha plays, otherwise he would already had a vacban
2014-12-02 14:20
dude, do u know how a VAC-ban works? VAC is actually a piece of shit, it wont detect anything like a real private hack. kqly did got VACed because the hack he was using was submitted to volvo. so volvo knew about the cheat and detected it with some help of esea-admins. they would have never found out on their own. dont trust VAC br0
2014-12-02 14:25
#257
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Syria MTR3X 
Yeah and uses code that can't be detected by VAC.
2014-11-30 17:29
look at that asshole, he's even making excuses.
2014-11-30 17:19
Yes!! this community is full of retarded kids!!! Skins and csgolounge has destroyed this game :/
2014-11-30 17:19
IMO a statement like this should contain something like: "I am not using any cheat" but the only thing I can read from this statement is that he never got busted.
2014-11-30 17:19
yea and all the spectators and fans and players cant enjoy the matches anymore caused by all dirty trick pros do
2014-11-30 17:19
ayy lmao
2014-11-30 17:19
Not buying that story our biggun.
2014-11-30 17:19
Welcome to CSGO, where 95% of people never played competitive CS, only watch games for skins and want to kill you because you lost their skins by losing to hellraisers
2014-11-30 17:19
There is really no need to send deathtreats and shit. But NOTHING will change the fact that i believe he cheats, and that he should be banned.
2014-11-30 17:19
I totally agree with you, but the deaththreats is just a bridge too far.
2014-11-30 18:40
he should be banned, because of some clips that you can find of any pro player. your logic is beautiful
2014-11-30 19:52
I'm just speculating here, but this post might be the result of a move on the part of fnatic's organisation. They've been quiet on the cheating allegations so far but considering that the majority of the wider CS community believes that flusha does cheat, the popularity of the fnatic brand is nosediving. But kicking flusha outright would be the same as implicitly conceding that he did cheat, which might just hurt their image even more. So instead they're forcing him out, but letting him save face: he can leave because there's "no more enjoyment" in CS:GO, and not because he's a cheater. That way both parties look good.
2014-11-30 17:20
this. maybe.maybe. good PR is good.
2014-11-30 17:35
Hand me one of your tinfoil hats, please.
2014-11-30 19:02
Did you manage to read the very first clause? Just in case you didn't, it said: "I'm just speculating here". In other words, no conclusions. Just spitballing ideas.
2014-11-30 19:04
#833
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Singapore Nephalith 
It does look like it's leaning that way. I was expecting something else from flusha, like challenging the hackcusation claims to prove his innocence. This "I don't have to explain myself because you guys are stupid" isn't going do him any favor. Like I said before, I don't believe he is guilty until I hear explanations from the accused.
2014-11-30 19:05
It's so silly. This statement does nothing but harm his own cause. He hasn't even outright said that he doesn't cheat, only that he hasn't been caught yet. Great, that'll do wonders for your reputation. And if the best that he can offer was "I lift my mouse a lot" it looks like he's not even trying to protest his innocence. Attacking the community and trying to guilt-trip it into questioning itself is so fucking duplicitous and conniving. If he wants people to think he's innocent he can at least try to explain this mountain of aimlocks people have found. Saying "you hurt my feeling and I want to quit now" doesn't make all that evidence go away.
2014-11-30 19:29
#1061
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Singapore Nephalith 
Exactly. It's getting increasingly difficult to defend him if all he's going to do is run away and place the blame on the community for unfair treatment.
2014-11-30 20:21
Yes, disband your shitty team. Well done guys.
2014-11-30 17:20
He's a pro player, he has a sponsor and get a lot of money to play a fucking videogame and he still cares about what the others think? LMAO
2014-11-30 17:24
#162
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
worst community no doubt, the retardness on hltv.org has increased from 74% up to 92% the last years.
2014-11-30 17:20
+1
2014-11-30 17:21
whats retarded about gathering 20+ proofs of aimlocks and conclude that this guy is cheating?
2014-11-30 17:22
+1
2014-11-30 17:24
The only thing that should stop is hating about their appearance. Calling someone fat or something isn t nice, especially when most of the cs players look very skinny for example and no i am not fat :P
2014-11-30 17:24
#208
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
+1 hltv kids in a nutshell.
2014-11-30 17:30
#935
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
The personal trashtalk towards them is retarded, you don't have to be scientist to understand or see that.
2014-11-30 19:32
That happened with birth of csgo, fact. Before, in 1.6 era it was slightly toxic, but nowhere like today.
2014-11-30 17:24
#249
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
yep true, we didn't have so many tarded kids back then :d
2014-11-30 17:28
thank you skins!
2014-11-30 19:53
NO thank you!
2014-11-30 20:10
hacking piece of shit hope u get vac banned:)
2014-11-30 17:20
+1
2014-11-30 17:22
lol, he needs to remember that he wont be playing a successful game without it being mostly supported by the community in every possible way, he cant grow/be liked talking crap like this. If he's clean, he needs to prove it in some way and not defend with 'i lift my mouse in a clutch situation' crap.
2014-11-30 17:21
Easiest proval = Mouse PoV (yet there are none, that is the reason every sigle Silver 2 retard believes Youtube edit) Also fact that he does not talk crap, it's honesty you see.
2014-11-30 17:24
You sound familiar, are you devilwalk? jokes aside though, how would you know he's being honest when he says he doesn't cheat? He's as honest as kqly at this point, only that he's not guilty yet.
2014-11-30 18:21
now they'll know how hard it is for Fifflaren cuz everyone blamed him for years
2014-11-30 17:23
U don t respect the community, the community doesn t respect u. +case closed
2014-11-30 17:23
This community is cancer, but finally got united for a good thing. Dedication of those who wants this game clean, without cheaters and others prevailed. I laughed my ass of on I LIFT MY MOUSE ALOT, almost cried, same excuse like KQLY "I just tried it on a MM game". One question flusha/fnatic fanboys, why can't you make so many evidence for others, for example forest, shox, scream, dosia etc... ? For the good of all, I hope that they will save that little dignity they have left, and step off, at least flusha. Love you guys, and I'm proud of you!
2014-11-30 17:23
Look, Baguette filled with hatered and probably cancer (You should kill yourself for this comment)... United for a good thing, because destroying the game for whole CS:GO team, where none of the players chat is a "Good thing" as you say.. Finding evidence of others: You want those GeT_RighT,friberg,Happy,etc. videos linked here, so you can shut your fucking mouth already? You probably play with 20 sens on 1600 DPI mouse right? Because only that way I can see you not understanding why Pro players have to move their mouse a lot. Simple proof for you all, hating kids from silver 2 river, would be only a Mouse PoV during a match, maybe that would make you understand (highly doubt it)
2014-11-30 17:29
Just find 10 situations from those players like those made buy flusha, and i'm gonna slap my mouth and never comment again. Blind fanboyism is leading to not rationally thinking, and trying to analyze those situations. There are a lot of players with low sens, moving their mouse a lot, but this has nothing to do with the fact that CROSSHAIR was LOCKING on player heads (trough smoke, walls or whatever). LIFTING your mouse has nothing to do with it, only console players could eat this nonsense.
2014-11-30 17:34
Well if you wanted me to link those youtube videos (which mean as nothing as this guy's three videos edited into three bilions, because you and hundereds of others are cancer) (Btw those videos are made by as cancerous people as you are) youtube.com/watch?v=rkOGhixEVSs - Friberg youtube.com/watch?v=KtlTYjV5Knc - Get_right youtube.com/watch?v=5EoSSSgCLH0 - Xizt Proofs found of others doing the same thing are only three... Yet videos with "flusha aimlocking" are only three as well, only with cuts and edits...
2014-11-30 17:57
This is what you guys call aimlock. As flusha said he lifts his mouse alot (possily because he has low mouse sense). youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=65 @1:07 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=118 @2:00 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=124 @2:06 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=521 @8:42 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=852 @14:13 youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=862 3 times in the next 5 seconds youtube.com/watch?v=lbNOqPVolso#t=908 @15:09" - Altrodeus on HLTV.org forum As well there is proof about how he actualy uses his mouse..it's also only a few videos, yet proving the most
2014-12-01 12:23
because we have lives and dont waste time looking for "suspicious" evidence as players with brains now that if they cheat = they will be banned, simple as that.
2014-11-30 17:31
It took 2 years for sF to get banned. It's just matter of time until those private hacks will get dettected. IF you were following the news recently, related to cheating scandal, and all facts from cheat maker itself, you could see that there are many other coders, making those dodgy cheats, which are almost impossible to detect. Time will tell, until then cheating possibility has stronger arguments than innocent ones.
2014-11-30 17:37
If any of them players gets caught I'll bow down to the hltv gods and admit I was wrong and everyone will be able to move on with their lives, but until then we have to believe that they were not cheating.
2014-11-30 17:44
Another sad kiddo who ate all the knowledge in the world.
2014-11-30 19:03
Many do understand those clips don't mean a damn thing. It's becuase of his playstyle, you can see that all the time in his play. Even tho they couldnt beat LDLC without that exploit, Flusha played very well and did the stuff he always does.
2014-11-30 17:23
Whats the first thing someone unfairly accused of a crime would say? No matter who it is, no matter where in the world, they'd say "I didn't do it!" And it's the only thing flusha didn't say in this wall-of-text... Not implying anything, just finding it very strange.
2014-11-30 17:23
Liars also say they didn't do it. It's not strange, he said it before and he is honest.
2014-11-30 17:25
Your point is invalid. Liars might or might not say they didn't do it, but its extremely strange that innocent person does not say it.
2014-11-30 17:45
HAHAHA what a pussy seriously, the best are always hated the most. Just like America :D
2014-11-30 17:23
Oh please we are not the best dont be stupid
2014-11-30 18:13
Nobody cares about your shitty team anymore, no sportsmanship no respect. Just disappear and never come back.
2014-11-30 17:24
This. Sounds hard but that scamming against LDLC will never be forgotten. Their forfeit was just a lousy try to pull their heads out.
2014-11-30 17:26
SCAMMING...did you hear yourself? LDLC can cheat, yet fnatic get harrased and death threatened for it? You are just another part of this cancerous community...
2014-11-30 17:30
LDLC did cheat? Ok. Stopped reading there.
2014-11-30 17:33
Both teams broke the same rule witch is why the game were supposed to be replayed and not just the second half. Fnatic were pissed cause basicly all teams have been using some kind of pixelboost on overpass during dh14.
2014-11-30 20:12
Just quit, nobody will care
2014-11-30 17:24
"this is why i have never cared about the community" but the money from stickers and community raised price pools hes taking without turning a hair... without the community he would never had the change to start his career
2014-11-30 17:24
Just keep winning guys! Let those retards be salty whenever they want to
2014-11-30 17:25
You should lift other things than a mouse more often dude.
2014-11-30 17:25
#209
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Australia m1tch 
fnatic damage control at work
2014-11-30 17:25
but, he is right, not banned = not a cheater what can you do haters? p.s. i dont support fnatic or whatever, just being honest
2014-11-30 17:25
Shitty, corrupt admins?
2014-11-30 17:27
no the decision was right. we are talking about cheating my friend
2014-11-30 17:55
not banned = not a cheater? google "BROLY cs go"
2014-11-30 18:37
not banned = not a cheater? ever heard of BROLY?
2014-11-30 18:37
This week only one thing became verified: The average age of a HLTV user has to be 12 and their IQ seems even lower. 100% proof by having a look into every second birdbrained comment on this page. Community is a joke. not cause having an opinion about someone, but hating and raging like a 8 years old kiddy noticing that someone has taken away his sweets.
2014-11-30 17:25
article written by lurppis, who's one of the first person to insult and accuse flusha.. the irony.
2014-11-30 17:25
+1
2014-11-30 17:27
but.. but hes an ex pro so he knows better than anyone
2014-11-30 17:34
If you are going to suggest Lurppis is biased then surely the person with "fnatic fan" next to his name is also biased.
2014-11-30 18:31
he has his own reasons I have mine, unfortunately I cant influence a lot of people.
2014-11-30 18:37
plus 1
2014-11-30 18:14
Community is full of retards is all I can say. Though that boost was a fucking cheap shot. We still dont need community experts deciding who cheats based on a few random aimlocks. Almost feels like overwatch is to blame, probably same guys are beyond reasonable doubt whenever their gut instinct says a guy plays wierd.
2014-11-30 17:26
lol nice try to quit CS without getting VAC banned. Also makes it sound as if the community is the villain HAHAHAHAHA. Get lost.
2014-11-30 17:27
TLDR: Everyone in the CS community are fucking retards execpt the people who are stupid enough to pay my living. I play this game to milk money. My name is Flusha and this is to catch an waller.
2014-11-30 17:26
never cheated amiright? youtube.com/watch?v=EFxd_7wY2tc
2014-11-30 17:26
flusha is clean... -NiP fan :D
2014-11-30 17:26
#freeflusha
2014-11-30 17:27
fanatic disband I hope?
2014-11-30 17:27
This community is crap indeed. Many incompetitent egos manipulating eachother. Everyone wants to yell something.
2014-11-30 17:27
So, he says that he would rather quit, than continue playing in this situatuin and then he says that he never cared about the community and social media. Hmmm...
2014-11-30 17:27
flusha <3
2014-11-30 17:27
Fun thing he doesnt deny cheating, just that he's never been banned. Much like the Fnatic statement that read something similar. Also, pro player since 6-7 years and labeled as cheater since forever, how come Flusha is the only one recieving that treatment out of the pro scene?
2014-11-30 17:28
because of lurppis and some other pros whos names shall not be told as the bandwagon can wipe me of the internet :(
2014-11-30 17:36
I find it funny cause nowhere he says he never cheat - only thing he says is he was never caught rofl
2014-11-30 17:28
#253
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Norway SlimeThug 
No homo, I support flusha to the fullest. I don't think he cheats. He is innocent until proven guilty. Fnatic get's a lot of hate for nothing. This community is getting shittier by the day. Enough said Edit: I hope fnatic doesn't disband because watching their CS is some of the most interesting in history. Pronax capability of antistratting the other teams and the rest of fnatics execution is good CS no matter what you think about them.
2014-11-30 17:31
Explain this to like 300+ comments here...
2014-11-30 17:31
#279
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Norway SlimeThug 
Impossible to do. The world is full of ignorant people and people will keep being ignorant. Reality, what a shame!
2014-11-30 17:32
"Fnatic get's a lot of hate for nothing" even if this all flusha situation didn't exist, the NIP and LDLC games are enough to hate them.
2014-11-30 18:44
#762
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Norway SlimeThug 
Don't know the backstory of the NiP game, but people told me they had reason to shout out stuff. And that was mainly moddii, schneider and jw, right? Flusha didn't say anything in the clip. The boost in the LDLC game should not have happend. LDLC were robbed for the game from a boost which broke the map, but still, it's not enough to receive this kind of hate. Especially not since they forfeited to be fair.
2014-11-30 18:53
What makes even worse is when devilwalk says fnatic discover that boost 2 months ago when they have to report the bugs they found to valve. Let's be honest, the forfeited was take by fnatic organization for damage control and not taken by the team.
2014-11-30 19:08
#917
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Norway SlimeThug 
My initial thought was that it was the organization behind the forfeit, but Devilwalk came out and said it was purely the players. You can either believe him or not, but the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
2014-11-30 19:25
hes been proven bro. what do you think overwatch is? same shit.
2014-11-30 17:32
#369
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Norway SlimeThug 
Hahaha. Mistakes in overwatch bans happen literally all the time. No wonder when guys like you are able to make a verdict. He is not banned by any anti-cheating programs or been banned manually by any admin reviewing his demos. He will remain innocent until proven otherwise. How hard is it?
2014-11-30 17:41
I hope he will continue to play like a beast, until all those crying kids explode with pure rage.
2014-11-30 19:05
I love you flusha <3
2014-11-30 17:29
tbh you haters did destroy fnatic.. not saying flusha doesnt look suspicipous but think about dem teammates.. they are on huge pressure
2014-11-30 17:29
ps : "i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." xDDDDDDDD HAHAH DAT LIAR , GODAMN FANTIC FAT PRICK GET BUSTED
2014-11-30 17:29
flusha admit u cheated and gtfo JW should do the same
2014-11-30 17:29
Nice try flusha :D
2014-11-30 17:30
the community is your sponsor flusha, since we bought all those cases/keys that fund the prize money, fund your sticker money ingrate
2014-11-30 17:30
+1 want write same comment^^
2014-11-30 17:41
WOOW WOOWW so much hate man this is bullcrap, u guys are shit man good that flusha dont give a fuck about u all. he is just doing his thang. like i always say i dont give a fuck what people say. fking crappy witch hunts going on u guys are fking sad man haters haters haters haters hatersssssss
2014-11-30 17:32
mad cheater
2014-11-30 17:31
youtube.com/watch?v=YbWAu7gx8xQ this took the enjoyment out of overpass :((
2014-11-30 17:31
flushaaa <333
2014-11-30 17:32
important: he never denies the accusations, says they are false, or says that he does not cheat.
2014-11-30 17:32
This should be put in front.
2014-11-30 19:23
i agree with him. So much hate to a full team when there is not a single prove of cheating must be depressing. When LDLC claimed about the fnatic boost on overpass everyone started raging and flaming, but they used a boost that was even more ilegal and no one bated an eye. CS:GO will suffer the same fate as LoL: A rotten community that will eventually destroy the game they're suposed to like.
2014-11-30 17:32
YES. YES. exactly and people are fktards. just because fnatic is (was) 1 of the best teams. and ye the community who likes the game so much. is destroying csgo itself. stupid peoples really fking think before u act
2014-11-30 17:34
"and i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." stopped reading there what a fucking joke lol
2014-11-30 17:33
u should try it more often ;) since im lifting my mouse more often, i just give imba-wallbangs (even tho i cant bang the wall) its actually some top secret shit
2014-11-30 18:14
"i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." hahaha
2014-11-30 17:33
Try to pull a scumbag move against ldlc that results in your fans burning your merchandise and egging your shirts but yeah your fans are the villains right lmao
2014-11-30 17:33
+1
2014-11-30 17:34
#290
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Israel TalOs 
fnatic going to disband? we succeeded! #HLTVArmy
2014-11-30 17:34
Everyone who directly attacks a player like this is simply either slightly retarded, or just a fucking kid. Put an age rule that you have to be at least 16 years old on this community please, it is getting so out of hand with these 10 year olds anonymously posting things they never would dare to say in real life. HLTV - a community that embraces the idea of acting as retarded as you possibly can without any risk of consequences..
2014-11-30 17:34
#395
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Norway SlimeThug 
Yep. This is really getting out of hand. Similar to a fucking 4chan community or some shit. What a joke
2014-11-30 17:45
feel sorry for u flusha!
2014-11-30 17:34
Fanboy, he is on VACAy in Flushrida. Wont read your comment
2014-11-30 17:37
flushrida, hmm.. naa.. try again
2014-11-30 18:44
Everyone is innocent until they are proved wrong. I want to believe that there's still good people that can actually be good doing what to do so until some actually proves you or anybody else is cheating, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. People are jealous and they only see what they want to see
2014-11-30 17:34
Your naivety is astounding. This isn't a criminal point of law, people are not "innocent until proven guilty". If you want to apply legal maxims, apply the balance of probabilities, or even Occam's razor. You're blinded by your bias and it's embarrassing.
2014-11-30 17:42
correction: "i usually lift my mouse after i accidentally aim lock on someone" if he actually told the truth which im 100% sure he didnt i would feel bad, bad hes a cheating liar, he cannot be trusted.
2014-11-30 17:38
cheater
2014-11-30 17:34
I don't think he's cheating, and his answer to all acussations might be true, i also lift my mouse alot and it sometimes cause make my gameplay look weird and not as perfect as it should be on flicks and fast rotates. simply because of bad hand movement
2014-11-30 17:34
#299
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Netherlands Nieroth 
"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke" Well fuck you too. It's not us that decided that cheating in the pro scene was considered normal. It's not us that decided to use a game breaking bug to make up for the lack of skill to win a game. The nerve to call us out on voicing our opinion about these scumbag moves.. It's the same nerve they had to start complaining about a normal boost so that they can erase the 13-2 score. It just says alot about what kind of person he is to genuinly think that the community is the bad guy here.
2014-11-30 17:34
well said dude
2014-11-30 17:36
let me say a thing. After fnatic decided to forfeit the match there were still people alot of them actually who were trash talking about them.
2014-11-30 17:38
+1, finally someone who understands all of this
2014-11-30 17:38
This so much.
2014-11-30 17:38
+1
2014-11-30 17:40
#412
United Kingdom ecu 
agree completely
2014-11-30 17:47
#414
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Norway SlimeThug 
If i were in flusha's shoes and I received death threats for doing nothing wrong I'd call out this community way worse. Look around on the comments man. It's a shitty community.
2014-11-30 17:47
+1
2014-11-30 21:58
but did he say he didn't cheat?
2014-11-30 17:35
#309
SpawN | 
Iceland vasyl86 
that's so poignant
2014-11-30 17:36
Scene.
2014-11-30 17:36
Krimz, flusha, olof, jw, retirement anannoucement inc. Poor excuse to cover up what happened at dreamhack. They forfeit the game and now they are talking about quitting. I've got a feeling that someone from Valve told them to forfeit the game and retire after dreamhack to save them from public lynch for vac bans. You heard it here first .
2014-11-30 17:36
Yes, but they didn't offer the same contract to kqly and sf . how generous of them
2014-11-30 17:39
#555
AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD 
What do you expect from a polish guy?
2014-11-30 18:06
And what excatly "danish" guy is trying to say ?
2014-11-30 22:21
Forgive others, not because they deserve forgiveness, but because you deserve peace
2014-11-30 17:37
fnatic GO win ESEA LAN pls! gl
2014-11-30 17:37
Plz FLusha, We never forget your cheats-.- Get lost while you can, once a cheater always a cheater. +1 for ragequitter aswell LOLELELOLOLE
2014-11-30 17:37
"There's no more enjoyment..." ...now that I have to play fair like everyone else.
2014-11-30 17:37
tell me how much you will or your team will enjoy when you're consistently being accused of cheating or shown hatred ?
2014-11-30 17:38
I would carry on playing to prove haters that they are wrong and laugh at the accusations and take them as the compliment.
2014-11-30 22:33
you aint a cheater until you're a banned in my view, don't care how many gifs i see or fangay comments i get.. This community/site was way way better back in 1.6 era, less troll ( even the trolls were funny ) and hardly any acquisitions ( still there were some ) and everybody loved each and every single player in pro scene .. But over the past year or so, this community is shit and toxic full of hate ( mostly towards fnatic ) and low IQ acquisitions ..
2014-11-30 17:43
FULLY AGREEE really low IQ fkers who dont think before they write something down.
2014-11-30 17:40
why do you think theres so much hate only towards fnatic and not other teams? its because they deserve it.
2014-11-30 17:49
and they deserve it because ?? they didn't shook hands with NIP ?? or they kicked schnider of the team ? or they picked pronax ? or they picked two good individuals of LGB which led them from no-namers to top 1 in matter of months ?? or because flusha has some gifs of him ?? you think valve won't be investigating the shit out of fnatic before DHW ? or even DH itself ? ESL reviewed his demo as well, you think they are hiding his cheats too ?? It all started with that no hand shake, when HLTV was whining on NIP arse .
2014-11-30 17:54
karma is a bitch sry, sry for insultes
2014-11-30 17:38
sry, sry for insultes
2014-11-30 18:20
ok cu hf on tetris
2014-11-30 17:38
#333
SpawN | 
Iceland vasyl86 
flusha is lifting mouse pasha is lifting weights xD
2014-11-30 17:38
+1337 mate
2014-11-30 17:49
"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke" He is right Also u are joke too Thx
2014-11-30 17:38
NO U ARE THE FKING JOKE.
2014-11-30 17:41
no.. he is the joke
2014-11-30 17:49
Who is this 1 out of 10 people?? please names
2014-11-30 17:38
Oh that poor little thing :) Personaly i never accused him cheating (hey, innocent untill proven guilty), but his/their attitude is one big peace of crap. They were so cocky in the last months, like we are the best, etc... and when things doesnt go as they want they start looking for excuses, playing a victim here. Fnatic could really take nip guys as example: Just look at fiffy, how much hate he received in last year (or even more; and not 2 weeks like flusha did). And everyone love him now :) Or maikelele - that he's a toxic and raging kid and he will never worked with nip line-up. I think he prooven everyone wrong. They receive hate as well and they handled it like they should. And than we have flusha, whose answer to hate is FUCK hltv and rather than proove them wrong start playing a victim.
2014-11-30 17:39
Well said. And its a bit confusing to me how he blames the community for lost enjoyment when he also says he didnt care about the community in the first place.
2014-11-30 18:48
Completely agreed, I also didn't want to say if he's cheating, even though some of those demos looked suspicious, it can happen... But their attitude is horrible, Devilwalk so proud of hiding gamebreaking glitch, flusha community attacks and JW isn't even worth talking about...
2014-11-30 22:10
#341
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Israel TalOs 
if it was any one else rather than flusha even devilwalk i would feel bad but flusha you deserve this
2014-11-30 17:39
First rule of being pro, in ANYTHING. Don't ever ever listen to SOCIAL MEDIA/FORUMS. It'll break you. which it obviously have here.
2014-11-30 17:39
Lol at all the people calling HLTV forums "cancer", but continue to visit, continue to read threads and continue to take bait whilst posting. Morons. As for Flusha, you brought this on yourself you prick. Love how you're too scared to out right deny claims that youcheat. You talk like a rehearsed politician, you skirt the issue and don't actually entirely reject the accusation. All you say is "I've never been found to cheat, despite numerous investigations". You're the worst kind of person there is. Fuck you, fuck your team, fuck your once-respected organisation.
2014-11-30 17:39
The only moron here is you. If there's cancer, you shouldn't let it spread. Find the root and attack it.
2014-11-30 17:40
You can't eradicate cancer.
2014-11-30 17:47
Obviously not. You would be the living proof of that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Management_of_canc.. This isn't the 1500s.
2014-11-30 17:50
Find the root and attack it. Don't let it spread. Hurry up, come at me bro.
2014-11-30 17:51
Nah, all your arguments (the "waaa waaa I'm so butthurt!!" doesn't count) have been dismantled, so there's nothing left for me to do.
2014-11-30 17:54
The last thing you should probably do is put your dick away homie, it's getting pretty weird now.
2014-11-30 17:57
You're making this way too easy for me.
2014-11-30 18:26
You're too easy.
2014-11-30 18:36
Yes, me and your mom do have that in common. Love you too, m8.
2014-11-30 19:25
0/10, you've let yourself down.
2014-11-30 19:47
flusha. - try to express your self - you dont enjoy because the community hates you ? so pathetic. - apologize only for the sponsor(money) ? so pathetic. - only pathetic kids cheat - next time you ll find a bug try to report so the game be better and dont take advantage with that in a competitive e-sports major event if you cheated what else behavior you can have if not like that ? wtf. great mentality i guess..
2014-11-30 17:39
you are a fucking cheater. That clip on inf, mirage and dd2 says all. That sudden aimlock on dd2 and that you at the same time fire a bullet : )
2014-11-30 17:39
can't read shit ?? I have never been banned or gotten disqualified for cheating from a tournament/league/ladder in all my life, yet i have been reviewed by alot of different admins, for example ESL admins has reviewed me on several occasions. , now pls whine how esl is also no covering flusha hacks like valve and dreamhack
2014-11-30 17:42
you must be blind.
2014-11-30 17:53
please guide me then.
2014-11-30 17:55
"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke" +1 Enough said.
2014-11-30 17:40
This makes me angry. If a community of kids manages to end the career of one of the world's top players, it would be the absolute low point in Counter-Strike's entire history. Hope he stays away from reading stuff about himself until this is over and the kids find another target.
2014-11-30 17:40
#888
method | 
United States f0xes` 
He cheats you dumbfuck.
2014-11-30 19:16
this statement only made it worse for him...
2014-11-30 17:40
FUCK YOU
2014-11-30 17:40
he's lying so much
2014-11-30 17:40
Keep the hate coming guys! Soon the whole team is going to quit which is atleast my goal! Go go!
2014-11-30 17:40
+1
2014-11-30 17:41
"I have never been caught" "Esl admin researched me" In other words he is saying he has been cheating but has never been caught otherwise he would have said i never cheated. And saying that an esl demo admin checked his demo's, is 'his' prove that he doesnt cheat? Haha
2014-11-30 17:41
youtube.com/watch?v=9yRoHMC-i-k says it all FNATIC would be better off with a full new roster with fair players who loves & respect e-sport. All the team was agree with abusing the game in a Major tournament, this isn't acceptable even if they don't use cheats they have the mind of cheaters .
2014-11-30 17:41
#365
Poland blh 
I've always believed in him being clean even after watching all these clips. If you watch any shot of him playing you can see how low sensitivity he has and how many times he lifts his mouse. Sad to see such a great team basically destroyed by kids jumping the flusha bandwagon without having any common sense.
2014-11-30 17:41
dude the miniclips in cache/d2 are pretty obvious . do you want to retire? then come on. nobody gonna believe in u anymore, only blind fanboys.
2014-11-30 17:41
#372
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Russia Shokflow 
The only thing i can say about the clips on me is that i have a very different playstyle and i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player. Wallpaper plz HLTV
2014-11-30 17:42
Sounds to me like the is mad at what happened at dreamhack...
2014-11-30 17:42
Act like men, and don't give up please. Show the respect to the community, that they didnt show you guys! The forfeit was lack of respect to admins and the other teams, and if you quit entirely now it would be the ultimate sign of weakness. So pick up your weapons and fight.
2014-11-30 17:42
Just retire you cheater basterd
2014-11-30 17:42
worst team ever.
2014-11-30 17:42
#383
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Ukraine potapUA 
The hate is real :D
2014-11-30 17:42
#385
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Lithuania HORNAS! 
Dear Flusha, Please, just quit the gaming and everyone will be happy(including your teammates). Best regards, Mr HateFatCheaterz
2014-11-30 17:42
Yeah, yeah, VAC ban incoming.
2014-11-30 17:43
Yeah just disband, fnatic deserves a better team anyway!
2014-11-30 17:43
Simple answer of his cheating - "I only do these things for the sponsors of my team."
2014-11-30 17:44
people are aware you can cheat at lan now so no more fun
2014-11-30 17:44
just VAC pl0x, end him now
2014-11-30 17:45
aimlocking on your opponent's head through walls because you lift your mouse #justflushathings
2014-11-30 17:45
#398
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Brazil mth^ 
now keep cheating piece of sh**t
2014-11-30 17:45
dear community, U GUYS ARE FUCKED UP. GREETINGS, UR MOTHERS CUNT
2014-11-30 17:46
He cant even say hes not cheating, all he said is that hes not caught or banned etc.
2014-11-30 17:46
#407
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Lithuania HORNAS! 
7-8 years ? u were nothing in 1.6 and now you are god in csgo with your JUSTFLUSHATHINGS
2014-11-30 17:46
I played with him for about 6 years ago and he was a fucking beast back then, pretty unknown though.
2014-11-30 17:51
If you were a beast in 1.6, you should be known. Not many teams were present in 1.6, at least not as many as in csgo.
2014-11-30 18:56
lol no, there were so many people in the swedish scene who were so good but never went pro
2014-11-30 19:00
Sweden had like what, 1-2 top teams in 1.6? and buch of players mixed. give me a break
2014-11-30 19:03
Were you born in 2011?
2014-11-30 19:07
1991
2014-11-30 19:19
He has a right to be pissed. Out of all the hundreds of clips of him I have only seen 2 that are suspicious. All of the clips of him moving his cursor on players through walls means nothing unless we know the base rate, i.e. how often pro's move their cross hair over enemies through walls. It's bound to happen some, and it will happen even more if you have low mouse sens. Check Flusha's sens, it's even below 800ish. It's sad for flusha and fnatic to be the victims of this witch hunt because all these hltv idiots don't understand logic 101 and no idea what a 'base rate' is. If any of these posts were even remotely srs they would try to create a base rate with tons of other players using low sens, guardian, schneider, n0thing, etc etc. Even then it would only be speculation, but without that it means absolutely nothing. The only two clips on flusha that are sketchy is that spray through the wall on cache and that hs on inferno.
2014-11-30 17:47
#433
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Norway SlimeThug 
+1
2014-11-30 17:50
have you seen the mirage, b short usp wall bang clip? its very suspect. he locked onto target's head (in underpass) from b short, traced enemy, then actually carefully fired at head (not spam) while his xhair was pointing at the impenetrable part of the wall, then stopped and shifted aim to the penetrable panel for another headshot (which connected) sorry i dont have a link but it was in a collection of gifs posted.
2014-11-30 18:10
sad thing is that not only this shitty community at HLTV flame/hate/insult him, but even "personalities" like lurppis do that; thats just ridiculous all of this based on some random gifs/clips which could be found on basically any player in the scene. you are joke
2014-11-30 17:48
sry, sry for insultes
2014-11-30 17:48
#419
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World N1CSPlayer 
Stop talk about flusha and get_Life kids .
2014-11-30 17:48
shit, if i needed to pull up my mouse that often : i would change my sensitivity FFS. Can FLUSHA even do 180 ?
2014-11-30 17:49
Cant play with cheat anymore - blames the community and quit.
2014-11-30 17:48
So before people started to ascuse you and like you you had same mind set - this is why i have never cared about the community- slap to the fans and he thinks that community is sstupid so heres a slap to them also -i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player.- #justflushathings
2014-11-30 17:48
i just dont know what to say :s
2014-11-30 17:49
its not just hltv guys, reddit is pure fucking cancer aswell
2014-11-30 17:49
lol reading comments here, this fucking comminity, 99% retards. im with flusha with this, its fucking disgusting how ppl behave atm..
2014-11-30 17:49
CS died with CS:GO.
2014-11-30 17:50
We did it HLTV !
2014-11-30 17:50
"The only thing i can say about the clips on me is that i have a very different playstyle and i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." Nice try Fodder Eh flusha btw, is this i.gyazo.com/1548599a6537f8664bf004f3d336.. mouselifting ? If you want to retire, you are welcome. And this joke community doesnt like cheating scrubs like you, thats why you get all the hate.
2014-11-30 17:50
am happy that u guys took a good decision by forfeiting the match.But i cant ignore you guys completely from cheating after Kqly and SF got banned.You guys are pro and you guys should not even think of quiting this game, just by these cheating accusations instead of quiting you guys should make this community and Vavle much safe and secure so even if any new player joins this community, they dont need to face any cheater in further matchmaking or any big Lan Event. Help us make this community Cheat Free and Secure Thanks :D
2014-11-30 17:50
still a cheater hope they quit
2014-11-30 17:50
You guys here are seriously a fucking cancer, would kill you all if i could.
2014-11-30 17:51
One team down, who is the next team to kill? Need to know where to channel all my hate cause I cant think for myself.
2014-11-30 17:51
#444
fENOM | 
United States fenomix 
I literally never heard of him in 1.6... anyways... youtube.com/watch?v=9EG2NEJbfrs Zneel to replace Flusha heard it here first.
2014-11-30 17:51
1. I don't know if he cheats or not. 2. I dont hate him or like him 3. In what he said he never said he is not cheating he only said he never got banned so.....
2014-11-30 17:51
#448
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Austria db42 
tl;dr i dont give a fuck, hes still cheatign his ass off lol
2014-11-30 17:51
me and jonesai can understand you.
2014-11-30 17:52
<3 flusha
2014-11-30 17:52
so, he picks his mouse alot in 1 direction and doesnt do it when he truns back (dd2 thing). nice
2014-11-30 17:52
i'm just saying really people don't use their fucking brain. this witch hunt. people have played games and watched their demo as well and same shit happend sometimes ur crosshair just catches enemy's head. GO FUCKING TRY IT AND DONT DARE JUST DO IT IN 1 GAME GO OVER 10/20 GAMES OF YOURS AND PICK MAKE A VIDEO OUT OF IT U GET 5 6 VIDS SAME SHIT AS FLUSHA AND THEN WHAT. ACCORDING TO THE COMOMUNITY U ARE A CHEATER THEN. HF CSGO HF !!
2014-11-30 17:52
stfu , hes cheating end of discusion
2014-11-30 17:54
hater.
2014-11-30 17:54
gfycat.com/DecisiveAdoredFrillneckedliza.. only two man on earth h'v done this before flusha roman and sf both are cheaters youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=36m.. youtube.com/watch?v=tU31-cxr_AE
2014-11-30 17:55
u understood me wrong. go play games and watch ur demo if u an average player and have low sens this shit happens. go watch ur demos matchmaking or whatever and check out 10-20 games not 1 game, and u will find urself getting ''flushed'' by the same shit. after u done this make the vids of 10 secs each. and VOILAAAAAAAA... U BECOME A CHEATER !!
2014-11-30 17:56
How old are you? And your rank? (I'm not even talking about you who is ignoring these videos I linked) btw I'm always watching my demos.
2014-11-30 17:58
well then if you watch your fucking demo u will find the same shit dont fking deny it.
2014-11-30 18:08
lurppis what the fuck? Look what have you done now. Dang it.
2014-11-30 17:52
well if he isnt cheating then i feel bad for him, but after watching carefully those actions in the videos.... "i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player" not a reason, sorry
2014-11-30 17:53
why cArn dont ask valve to inspect the fnatic team acc to see if they cheated in last months, and than if not they should make a public statement saying that. the hate will stop instantly.
2014-11-30 17:53
Everybody is clear that they admit. But your cleats directly to the head of the enemy is very fucking weird, rather unlikely
2014-11-30 17:54
#466
NEO | 
Poland camarpl 
i'm sorry flusherino but i still think you hackerino
2014-11-30 17:54
Since the team this sad, you are one of the problems, and leaves you much resolves
2014-11-30 17:54
so...its our fault that u played bad on DH? "i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player.-" hahahahaha
2014-11-30 17:54
#475
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Lithuania HORNAS! 
not bad gamestyle to lock heads JUSTFLUSHATHINGS
2014-11-30 17:54
this is so pathetic from you flusha. only problem is the community and what they bring. seriously FUCK YOU. we brought you all that sticker money and prize pool which you did not hesistate to take. fnatic must be ashamed of you fuckers. carn , why did you let it go that far???
2014-11-30 17:55
F Y flusha, go away from cs your aiming to heads over walls cant be just fckin luck
2014-11-30 17:56
" have never cared about the community, social medias and other stuff like that. I only do these things for the sponsors of my team" You need to start use your brain man! The community is the costumers of your sponsos, then if you care about your sponsors you should care about the community or the sponsors will not get results supporting your team. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD.
2014-11-30 17:57
So many retarded comments here on HLTV, sad to see :/ #ripCSGOcommunity
2014-11-30 17:57
man seriously, this is pathetic the way people accuse some1 of this shit. if he hacks/cheats he will get caught adventually. witch hunts won't do anything it's just a childish way of acting.
2014-11-30 17:59
sure mate defend ur cheating friend np :)
2014-11-30 18:13
cheater
2014-11-30 18:40
You act like the csgo community hasnt been like this. Youre delusional.
2014-11-30 19:13
shouldnt have started the witchhunt then lmao
2014-11-30 19:41
+1 count lurrpis in
2014-12-01 07:58
sympathy won't work here.
2014-11-30 17:57
Don't care if he play for 1 or 20 years, he's still cheating
2014-11-30 17:57
Hey. I know that flusha most likely won't even read this post, but anyways. Why are you even talking about losing enjoyment because of this community if you didn't care about us before? Saying "uhm, I didn't care about community because it was always bullshit" and then pretending that "the community pressure made you stop enjoying the process of gaming" is as autistic as it can be. Your causality comprehension is simply non-understandable. What you had to do was to grab your balls in your left hand and write a big statement about every cheating accusation with your right hand. You had to explain every single "cheeky" moment the community put up. Moreover you are trashtalking about the whole community, while calling it "a fucking joke", without having enough courage to explain everything to us. You, however, have right to be angry at this hating community because of the LDLC drama and pressure from all viewers. Just don't call yourself a professional player if you can't stand the pressure.
2014-11-30 17:58
+1. also he is blaming community, writed that he playing only for fkng sponsors (even not for pleasure). and after this post we should be good to him and fnatic? LOL
2014-11-30 19:13
#497
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Russia Shokflow 
Flusha what about i.imgur.com/DdVEY8X.gifv
2014-11-30 17:58
guardian is horny :D. and his hand... lool xD
2014-11-30 19:15
the best part is fnatic played like a shadow of themselves at dhw. Flushy had 3x 1vs2 where he like a clueless noob. They were obvioulsy cheating before and the fact this guy have no honor to atleast apologise make me sick of fnatic once again. Fnatic lost all respect and they wont get it back by w/o a lose match.
2014-11-30 17:59
did i just read that right, he doesnt say that he never cheated, he rather says "they never catched me so im legit"???? dis you seriously just give that statement flusha? in a psychologic point of view, its 100% save that you cheated :/ i think the hate you experience here is deserved. the best thing you can do here is coming out with a statement where you admit cheating.
2014-11-30 17:59
not just cheated...he still cheats, but VAC cant detect that cheat, so...he doesn't cheat! lol
2014-11-30 18:03
#506
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Kazakhstan Getlive 
I cant believe the things u say/cheater
2014-11-30 17:59
do you even lift?
2014-11-30 18:00
#516
Basso | 
Sweden eNvym 
If you had ever loved or cared about csgo and the community then you would have reported that OP boost but you didnt, so dont act like ur fucking 5 if you dont enjoy it then fuck off, just like we didnt enjoy what you did against LDLC
2014-11-30 18:00
Buahahaha. If he really doesn't cheat, he would never care about haters. Poor fnacheat. Lost 1 match and say it's our fault hahaha
2014-11-30 18:00
lol i just wonder how many people actually are stupid...you guys need VACced flusha's account to start believe he cheats? But what if cheat cannot be detected by that shit of piece called VAC? He(and many others) cheats and that's more than obvious. So stupid community.
2014-11-30 18:00
U KNOW WHAT. LET'S START WITCH HUNTS IF U GUYS LIKE IT SO MUCH. GIVE SOME NAMES SO WE CAN START THE WITCH HUNT ON EVERY PROPLAYER.
2014-11-30 18:01
start with happy
2014-11-30 18:05
it was sarcastic bro for the people who are braindead/low IQ/hate
2014-11-30 18:07
#1268
AZK | 
United States Dood 
ANGE1 get me some clips so I can submit to hellraisers Kappa
2014-11-30 23:18
#525
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France cedd 
guess what bro noone cares
2014-11-30 18:02
"It is just sad that you might have destroyed one of the best teams in the world with your hatred towards my team, some players in my team feels like there is no more enjoyment in the game and would rather quit than to keep playing in this situation. PLS QUIT, CHEATER! U are still a fucking cheater
2014-11-30 18:02
#527
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Denmark fyhn 
I don't like fnatic, never really did. No special reason why, and I do believe they are the best team in the world right now. That being said, it makes me really sad scrolling through the comments in this thread. It's like the time with Fiffy, just x1000. CSGO is growing and we should all be really happy about that, but these days the community just seems to get worse by the hour.
2014-11-30 18:02
We did not enjoy your stunt against LDLC, you are perfectly ruining your reputation yourself.
2014-11-30 18:02
1.6 was the best community, now it's all a big joke.
2014-11-30 18:03
QW community is better!!!!!!
2014-11-30 18:03
1. So do other pro players, most of them play for like 10 years or so. 2. Undeserved hate, really?! 3. KQLY or Sf have never ben banned either, so what is the point? What if other pro players are caught too, I bet 99% of them haven;t been banned eariler either... 4. Oh really, so lifting the mouse makes your crosshair move, right? 5. Thanks for not being insulting towards all of us right here, right now "this community is a fucking joke". Well, thank you :) That just proves my thought about you, being simply ignorant. 6. We haven't destroyed anything. People started looking out for suspicious stuff after the VACCENING, and guess what... lone behold people found some fishy clips!!! There is even pro players talking that some of the clips are really sketchy, then you're abusing pixelwalking on a major (knowing about it for 2 months and not reporting to vavle, such pro, much wow) and in the past it wasn't you, but JW&co. that had an attitude at DreamHack 2013. What you are doing is self destruction really... 7. Doing it for the sponsors of the team? Great stuff, I'm happy you are earning some cash man :) Lastly, to be fair with everyone, tell me flusha, how many times can it happen that someone accidentally swipes the mouse exactly at where the opponent player might be? Trying to find ones as eveident as yours is extremely hard to find. Someone has fond something similar on friber back from 2013 - but that was ONE clip. Other players even if were even close to pointing at them, never locked on to a person or were off by miles compared to you. Yet, there is sometimes FEW clips from THE SAME MATCH showing somewhat fishy behaviour of yours. So tell me, how legit is that? I'm not accusing you of cheating (innocent until proven guilty), but it does not seem to be a coincidence. But, come on it's apparently accidental as many people claim it to be. So I conducted a little experiment to see how accidental I can be. I am not a pro, nor I ever will be, but having played 5 simple MM, trying to replicate similar behaviour, just to swipe the mouse where an opponent could possibly be and then analyzing the demo after the match, guess how many times I have succeded to point my crosshair at an opponent team member or being even close (talking about those "lifting mouse swipes")... 0.
2014-11-30 18:03
4. Oh really, so lifting the mouse makes your crosshair move, right? +1
2014-12-01 02:22
How to escape with a little dignity "I stop my career because no more enjoyment" instead of a VACation soon.
2014-11-30 18:03
So many morons that actually think he is cheating, god.. grow up kids. Heck after this i rewatched 2 of my demos, absolutely same thing as flusha does, randomly move my mouse and pew it's on an enemies head that's miles away. People just want to find someone to blame, a bunch of trolls. Flusha - Just delete all your fanpages and play the game you love, don't listen to 16yo virgins crying that they can't get past silver and blaming everything else.
2014-11-30 18:05
SEEEE THIS IS WHAT IM TELLING THE TARDED COMMUNITY WHOLE TIMEE THEY ARE STUPIDD
2014-11-30 18:06
there is no respect any more that's why he would quit its the same as he gets vacation at thsi point or just quit it will be the same accusations
2014-11-30 18:05
Hahaha some friends of mine back in 2010 knew flusha and used to play with him, and that wasnt competive level.
2014-11-30 18:05
#550
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United Kingdom paullll 
No sympathy
2014-11-30 18:05
It's undeniable that you aimlocked in those clips. U still cheated just luckily uncaught.
2014-11-30 18:05
I like how almost everyone that accuses Flusha of cheating, only use the evidence against him and at the same time ignore the known info that state/prove he is legit. On that note no one except Flusha himself can truly know whether he is cheating. Innocent until proven guilty and all that good stuff dont really seem to apply to this community. I too have to admit that if you only look at the evidence against Flusha he does look like a clear cheater but the message this Dreamhack put out was that there really should be no possible way anyone cheated at this major and most of us saw that Flusha did infact play just as good as he has did in any other event.
2014-11-30 18:05
what evidence supports hes legit? and it was possible to cheat at DH. hltv.org/news/13693-fnatic-penta-progres..
2014-11-30 18:11
For example it was stated multiple times that every player had to predetermine every plugin and driver they wanted to use, no usbs or phones were allowed in the tournament playing area and workshop wasnt available. That should delete most if not all the ways players could have cheated at this lan. If that isnt conclusive enough to you or anyone else please present more ways to make sure people dont cheat because I think many organizers and admins could use that knowledge. Also giving a link to the fact that those 2 teams got through a bo1 groupstage is in no way evidence that cheating was possible.
2014-11-30 18:40
lol its a link to a comment by dupreeh and chrisJ literally stating that valve didnt check mouse and keyboards and that cheats were still possible.
2014-11-30 19:37
My mistake. Im very sorry about that, and as I now thanks to your comment actually looked at the thing intended in rektalgabeges reply, I see that there is a clear problem if what dupreeh and chris are saying is the case. This information is very sad since now not only is my previous comment literally meaningless, this once again leaves room for speculation and as I still believe the "innocent until proven guilty", it does leave room for error in the sense that the cheating could be possible. Also thank you for correcting my mistake :)
2014-11-30 21:40
Nevermind my previous reply since I completely missed your meaning
2014-11-30 21:43
probably gonna do a ninja retire before he gets banned to save face
2014-11-30 18:05
#557
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United States jr0d 
listen, he hasn't been caught cheating, until and if it even happens and he does get caught cheating, he is not cheating,
2014-11-30 18:06
good we hope your team disbands you cheating goons.
2014-11-30 18:06
+1
2014-11-30 18:08
care. if I was cheat accused i wouldnt care at all
2014-11-30 18:07
besides whether he cheats or not, this site has the most toxic userbase i have seen for quite a while.
2014-11-30 18:07
This site & community is worse than fucking cancer... Really.
2014-11-30 18:07
This community has turned in to a fucking joke. Ever since the CSS plebs invaded the scene. Lord why did you do this to the best team fps game there is out there i do not know. People hating and giving death threats , what the actual fuck man... Also why do people have to express emotions while winning? Why do they have to say "i respect this team LDLC" ? NO ONE HAS TO SAY THINGS THAT THEY DO NOT THINK NO MATTER HOW MUCH BUTTHURT YOU ARE. NBK Shox likeable guys .... are you for real those 2 are the most hypocritical players in the scene only bigger one of them is their captain Happy. Fnatic might not be your candy cougting wrapped team but they are amazing while they play. Also olof and krimz are preaty new to the big stage so it takes time for them to adjust their emotions. NiP has the most emotionless guy in the scene f0rest hes probably the best player in the world since hes embrace days and you very rarely see him smile/yell/give interviews theres probably handful of those out there kinda the same goes for Xzist but because some plebs say fnatic ain't like-able rules bend and change on the spot... RETARDS most of you can't see 2 far from their nose and are still spoon fed by your mothers yet you come and judge people so they can fit in your own imaginary world. I'm disgusted by this community..
2014-11-30 18:07
nice!!! hope fnatic disbands now
2014-11-30 18:08
yea pls quit playing fnatic ty!
2014-11-30 18:08
Innocent until proven guilty. Suspicious clips sure, but that is not enough.
2014-11-30 18:09
what is enough for you? VAC doesnt detect private cheats. KQLY and sf got away with cheating for so long and flusha is way more blatant then them.
2014-11-30 18:13
Flusha, talk to chrisJ. He if anyone can help you with your trauma!
2014-11-30 18:09
I don't think he used cheats but "The only thing the community has managed to get me and my team is alot of undeserved hate." LMAO do more shits like at DHW, undeserved hate, ROFL.
2014-11-30 18:10
#581
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Poland kRAMERO 
ohh, are you cryin?? wanna hanky? :*
2014-11-30 18:10
Lol this guys and their exagerations, its an e-sport...
2014-11-30 18:10
admins really should start ban ppl.
2014-11-30 18:11
even if hes cheating he makes more money by playing a video game than ur parents working their asses of 24/7 ehehhehehe,mad hltV fagzzzz?
2014-11-30 18:11
Guess fnatic are disbanding soon.... Who are u hyenas gonna target next ?
2014-11-30 18:12
some germans are always good
2014-11-30 18:17
#592
ANGE1 | 
Turkey RAGE_M 
Clearly a cheater.
2014-11-30 18:13
I don't care about the accusations, I dislike fnatic because of the dirty way the play and general unsportsmanlike conduct they have.
2014-11-30 18:13
#596
World Fzq 
If you read that carefully, he doesn't actually say he has never cheated... He just says he has never been caught. Does he cheat? I don't know, but I hope not, and I'll give him a benefit of the doubt until VAC or somesuch proves otherwise as that's all that matters. As for the Olofpass-gate, what fnatic did was very selfish, and unprofessional. Withholding a map-breaking boost (for a couple months) from Valve like that is almost comparable to cheating. I'm just glad in the end they did the right thing and forfeited the map, though unfortunate it took the HLTV army to make them realize that.
2014-11-30 18:13
No one ever thought NiP used cheat when they were at 80+ consecutive lan wins.................... why do u try to shift the responsibility to the community???
2014-11-30 18:14
Yeah, image the destruction of enjoyment caused by the boost (rather it was legal or not) used by fnatic.
2014-11-30 18:15
"some players in my team feels like there is no more enjoyment in the game and would rather quit than to keep playing in this situation." takes a special kind of person to call using a totally game breaking exploit at DHW (that even Xizt called illegal) as "enjoyment". only sick people.
2014-11-30 18:17
Swedish pro teams and players have always been playing a fair game.And if anyone in a team would cheat they would be kicked out instantly thats for sure. I am 100% sure that he hasnt cheat. He might be an idiot or what ever you guys think but im sure he would never cheat.
2014-11-30 18:17
#920
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
remember those times when emilio cheated on lan, teammates knew and said nothing?
2014-11-30 19:26
hes not a pro
2014-11-30 19:41
"It is just sad that you might have destroyed one of the best GAMES in the world with your DIRTY BEHAVIORS towards CS:GO, some players in THE COMMUNITY feel like there is no more enjoyment in the game and would rather quit than to keep playing in this situation."
2014-11-30 18:18
He obviously cheats, and then accuses the community of being a joke because they attack him. The problem is, people actually believe he never cheated even though there are clips with him aimlocking on several targets. If fnatic doesn't drop this retard after this stupid statement then they will lose so much respect from the community that he thinks is a joke.
2014-11-30 18:18
he did cheat before DHW and because they would watch him he played clean at DHW they got totally smashed by LDLC on first and last map, then had to go map abuse 13-2 never forget gg career derp
2014-11-30 18:19
Everyone have haters behind, stand up and let the hate come. Proove yourself that the haters are wrong, instead of making you look like a weak team/players. Just look at fifflaren, he had all hates towards when he was in NiP, so what? he did his best than just "quitting" like pussies
2014-11-30 18:19
The guilt is strong in that one
2014-11-30 18:21
|||only problem with it is the community and all that they bring, this is why i have never cared about the community, social medias and other stuff like that||| Sure, your whole career is totally not funded by the community. Community was right in pointing out the fishy plays, and you made absolutely no effort on defending yourself. As harsh as it may sound I don't think the community will miss you much. And also who spur personal threats is pathetic dickbags.
2014-11-30 18:21
This is just sad! if you quit here, I will cry!
2014-11-30 18:22
This is unfortunately what happens when too many kids get access to the internet. It started out with some suspicious clips but then it escalated into pure hate and ridiculous clips that people somehow perceive as "aim lock". I obviously don't know if he has cheated or not, but I feel sorry for him. Clips of such quality doesn't warrant the hate he has been receiving. I am happy that Dreamhack and Valve didn't punish him and hopefully that will be the case with future tournaments as well, because there is no way he deserves to get banned for this. This is a classic example of people getting hyped up and perceiving everything he does as cheat, even at a LAN with +100k people watching. I have never seen so many unintelligent posts in my life and it honestly reminds me of the crazy talk of 9/11 conspiracy theorists - backing each other up no matter how stupid the evidence might be. People say it is a sad time for CS and I agree, this whole thing has been disgusting. There are actual human beings behind the nicknames, please think before you comment people.
2014-11-30 18:24
what about all the other pros, that indeed said he was with some kind of help, that sometimes his mouse movement s weren't legit (like shoxie said "like a robot/not human"), are they also kids that dont know shit about CS?
2014-11-30 18:27
There is a difference between believing he cheats / commenting on suspicious clips and saying he should be banned, saying he is a shit human being etc. The first 3 clips or so were really weird, I'm saying the overall hate he has been getting is way too much.
2014-11-30 18:32
I don't hate anyone. But he is clearly cheating from the clips showing below. That aim-locking is not human, and you know that. The worst thing is that he keeps lying like Lance Armstrong, when everyone knows what's going on. Just make himself seem even more stupid. At least admit it when you're caught with your fingers in the cookie jar, instead of being in denial. Edit: I am not a fan of "hating" anyone. But I understand why a lot of people are tired of him, when he is cheating them out of their hard work and money. He is like a thief, I am a Buddhist so I am not a fan of "stoning" people. But I understand why people are angry at him for cheating people because of his low morals and ethics.
2014-11-30 18:52
No I don't know that, 90% of the clips are laughable. Believe what you want, I can't be bothered any longer.
2014-11-30 18:53
I agree most of the clips are shit. But why do you focus on the 97 bad clips, when you already have 2-3 proving that the guy has aim-locking :)?
2014-11-30 19:01
I don't consider it proof.
2014-11-30 20:20
I have no intention of making a never ending debate out of this. But if those at least 3 clips where the aim is locking in a 100% mechanical way on the target isn't proof enough. I wonder what it takes to be a proof to you then. Just asking out of pure curiosity, because from where I stand, it could not be more clear. And I have no intention of witch hunting, hating or whatsoever, but the footage to me could just not be more clear. The one on nuke for example his mouse movement is just 100% not human he is spraying randomly around and suddenly it is locked on the guy without wavering a bit for 8 bullets. Just not possible as a human to do stuff like that to me. Edit: One thing is to see cheats everywhere where it is not, but to me you are doing the opposite you simply refuse to see it where it is, if you deny those 2-3 clips. Nuke, dust 2 and inferno. I can't really see a difference in seeing cheat everywhere, and denying to see it when it finally is there. It is just 2 sides of the same coin.
2014-11-30 21:32
People say it is impossible to do those moves without cheat but how do you know? People say "100%" all the time but what is that based on? Footage of speedhack would be more clear, no? I can understand people who believe he is cheating from watching the first 3 or so clips and I'm not saying that he isn't. I'm just not convinced that it isn't possible to do those things without cheat, that is basically what it comes down to.
2014-11-30 23:43
I think fnatic should have someone who records all their games with a camera behing them....so when they win next event and becomes the ebst team in the world they can prove that they dont cheat to all noobs.
2014-11-30 18:27
No matter what they do!!! You don't understand?
2014-11-30 18:38
#631
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
remember when the cheater admitted he cheats? oh wait that never happens
2014-11-30 18:25
LOL
2014-11-30 19:37
twitter.com/fnaticFlusha/status/53609698.. so he tweeted this a few days ago... Why is he crying in his facebook now? ;^)
2014-11-30 18:25
Lurppis what is your opinion ? Since you were suspicious that flusha cheated even in DH.
2014-11-30 18:27
Good, fnatic please disband. JW, Flusha and olofmaister retire.
2014-11-30 18:26
Would suck if he quits before the truth gets out and he still has that funny "I lift my mouse ALOT"-story to hang on to.
2014-11-30 18:54
Nobody deserves death threats, but you're still a piece of shit.
2014-11-30 18:26
2014-11-30 18:26
buahahah :D
2014-11-30 19:44
cry me a river
2014-11-30 18:27
i wonder what MSI and the other fnatic sponsors say about their hacking team??????? i mean, there is more then enough evidence.
2014-11-30 18:30
For the sake of the sponsor and the name of Fnatic he's posting this. Hence the forfeit from Fnatic aswell. Trying to save their asses before Fnatic abandons ship. But have to say, why didn't anyone ever mentioned, especially speaking about the pro's in the CS:GO scene, these fishy plays from certian pro's? (KQLY, flusha etc.) To protect themselves against any accusation? Or was it just great timing to let people know just before the major. I mean they must be the ones observing all the demo's from their opponents for a long time already.
2014-11-30 18:41
Also how wrong is it to say that the community is a joke according to all the accusations and reactions of people. I agree some reactions are out of the line. BUT Such wow, much generalisation.
2014-11-30 18:36
I really hope that fnatic will stick together and not disband. Guys, if you're not cheaters, why should you even care about some kids' oppinion? They wrote you that they would kill you? C'mon, those are just 14-16 y.o. pimply fags who can't kill a fly, why you even became afraid of being killed or injured by them? fnatic should stick together and win the next major to spite all your haters. Remember, if somebody spits on your back - it means that you're ahead of him, so ask the haters to gtfo and just play!
2014-11-30 18:33
#724
smn | 
China HLTVMASTR 
Exactly, if flusha is not really cheating, why should they even care? "Thousands of people thinking I cheat eventhough I'm not? DAMN IM GOOD"
2014-11-30 18:46
i am sure you guys gonna like him again remember about colon and scream some guys upload demo about colon that he is walling come on people he played dreamhack good and you guys still calling him cheater plss get a life and stop hating
2014-11-30 18:34
The only thing i can say BAN him
2014-11-30 18:35
Opening up to the community by telling them, they are a joke ain't helping, retard. carn must be so proud...
2014-11-30 18:36
#669
method | 
United States f0xes` 
QQ flusha, you cheat, no one feels sorry for you, quit the game and bring your team with you. Stop trying to find pity where you will find none of it. Stop cheating and the hate will stop, pretty simple fatboy.
2014-11-30 18:36
He doesnt care about the community but hes thinking of quitting the game. Sense where? If i knew i was clean i wouldnt give a shit about what all the people say. I would continue playing on LAN and keep beating all those other teams. He could have at least tried to explain some of those weird clips instead of saying that he is lifting his mouse more than other pro players. Seems to be a dumbass. The whole team seems to be brainless. Olofmeister "We knew about this for two months". I mean wtf? If you know theres a fucking shitstorm around there you won`t say bullshit like that.
2014-11-30 18:36
pleace dont stop playing. you are so good. <3
2014-11-30 18:37
Y'all are fucking dumb in the head.
2014-11-30 18:37
#justflushathings
2014-11-30 18:38
Not going to comment on the accusations (innocent until guilty), but the team as a whole lost a lot of respect for the use of that boost.
2014-11-30 18:39
i really hope, that fnatic will disband and retire and get VAC banned. guys, if you are not cheaters, why would you not play against ldlc and be afraid of vac bann?? :))
2014-11-30 18:39
they went do DHW and played great, how are they afraid of vac ban?
2014-11-30 18:44
#689
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World VeryNiceFap 
flusha is cheating, deal with it.
2014-11-30 18:40
Should we care about ur thoughts on this community flusha?...
2014-11-30 18:40
lol flusha k
2014-11-30 18:41
#700
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United Kingdom veiN_ 
I'm not a fnatic fanboy or anything but he is right in some of his statement most of this community are fucking toxic, some of the shit you guys come out with are the reason this game can't grow.
2014-11-30 18:41
rofl what a joke.
2014-11-30 18:42
its funny how eveyrone says that flusha is a pussy for letting the community get to him and possibly make him retire, but the same thing happened to fiflaren lol and now everyone loves fiflaren...
2014-11-30 18:42
Atleast Fifflaren didnt cheat.
2014-11-30 18:46
that has nothing to do with what i said. You're another toxic hltv child.
2014-11-30 18:47
Nice argument br0
2014-11-30 18:48
thats not an argument...wow serbians need better schooling.
2014-11-30 18:59
Nice one
2014-11-30 18:59
ty
2014-11-30 19:04
nice guys, keep it up its entertaining
2014-11-30 19:10
its not my fault hes an idiot, he never had to reply to me in the first place.
2014-11-30 19:14
american telling someone to get a better schooling, go produce more brain deads who think cameroon is something you can buy in kfc
2014-11-30 20:10
Typical serbian, brainwashed much? American education system is ranked 11, meantime Serbia's 55. Addition, average IQ in USA is 98, Serbia didn't even make to the top 25, which makes Serbian IQ about 85. Sad to be born in Serbia because of retards with stereotypes like yours. I know it's hard to understand the facts as a brainwashed Serbian, but cmon just stfu and stop embarrassing me and other Serbians if u dont know a shit.
2014-12-01 07:03
people didnt hate fifflaren. people hated fifflaren being in NiP. thats a big difference!
2014-11-30 18:59
+++++++++++++
2014-11-30 19:33
flusha why you read hltv topics? and if you read, WHY YOU CARE IS A BUNCH OF KIDS
2014-11-30 18:43
lol didnt even read flusha shit excuses, just heard things like, i am a pro und lift my mouse more often than others... so the crosshair stays more often with MOVEMENT on opponents heads through 3 walls... and sometimes a shoot will happen, bt only, when the trigger doesnt work porperly. lal anf if fnatic is so pro and best team, why didnt they show us all at DHW? lol haxxing team with bad manners, no honor and try to hide exploit bugs just to win a map...
2014-11-30 18:44
they will not quit , its just a politely fuck off
2014-11-30 18:43
No more enjoyment of making money by cheating?
2014-11-30 18:44
He is right, this community has slowly become a joke, with people calling cheats everywhere and only caring about skins, pathetic.
2014-11-30 18:44
His excuse is fucking bullshit. I lift my mouse constantly too because of low sens, it's nothing like him, my aim is still smooth. Either I got better control of my mouse than him, or else he's just hacking. What a retard. The fact that he's trying to make excuses just proves that he really is hacking. He should just stay quiet.
2014-11-30 18:45
hahahah "i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player" and do you think im gonna believe that your lifting is aimlocking the oponents ?
2014-11-30 18:46
the fact that people are sending him so many death threats shows how toxic and garbage this community is. I really hope that he chooses a few threats that he got and reports them to the police. Death threats are taken really seriously and i would love for like 5 people in this community to be arrested over it. That would be amazing to me and maybe make an example out of them to teach the kiddies in here to grow up a little
2014-11-30 18:46
I got no respect for flusha, but I must agree with this. Those idiots who made death threats as a joke just need to be taught a lesson.
2014-11-30 19:30
lol fnatic and flusha rekt.
2014-11-30 18:46
You know what I love about his statement? He comes out and says "I have never been banned" but still doesn't bother to say anything along the lines of "I have never cheated and never will." He knows hes guilty. Sending him hate messages and death threats over a video game is fucking stupid though. People need to calm their tits.
2014-11-30 18:46
Exactly this.
2014-11-30 18:48
thats probably bc 95% of pros have tried cheats at some point in their gaming life, so if he said never than he would be lieing. That doesnt mean hes using them now. You're another toxic hltv kiddo
2014-11-30 18:48
He's expressing his own opinion = toxic? It's not like he's cursing or bullying flusha.
2014-11-30 19:36
He had already posted another post 1 hour before you wrote this, where he wrote exactly what you wrote now. "Since there is still alot of ignorant people. I have never cheated and i will NEVER cheat." I hope Lurppis adds this, but fear he won't since he hates Flusha.
2014-11-30 18:52
its a video game, of course most are under aged kids. Just feel sorry for Flusha and Fnatic
2014-11-30 18:47
tl;dr if he is saying flusha isnt cheating - then gtfo obvious aimlock
2014-11-30 18:47
I believe him, since he has always been a good player. But still those vids are suspicious, even though he explained it already. I hope that you wouldn't retire or anything, instead of that let the fnatic be more open to people - atm all 5 are just shut up which makes it feel like they think they are above others.
2014-11-30 18:48
he missed dragons and few goblins in part where he was talking about lifting mouse but i will give him 8/10 would make movie
2014-11-30 18:48
lol :D
2014-11-30 18:50
+1 :D
2014-11-30 18:55
Flusha are the unlucky player ever then, if those aimlocks just happen when he lifts let's say during the game the mouse are 97% the time touching the mousepad and the others 3% in the air and those all situtions happened in the 3%... yeah, so unlucky...
2014-11-30 18:49
i have seen plenty of other player look at people through the wall and smokes right on their head but because its not "cool" to make a fucking gif in slowmotion and call them cheaters people ignore it.. if you reawatch your demos you might find atleast 1 time in a match where you have done the same god damn thing!
2014-11-30 19:00
i'm sure eveyone "cross" bodies through the walls but locking it's a difference thing, the slowmotion thing is just to show that he locks every single time in the head and that is very very suspicious... once again, that action against LGB on inferno if he does that when lifting and not cheating... he must be the best player in the world
2014-11-30 19:19
Fifflaren took the shit for so long. Flusha gets a bit of hatred and is about to quit the game. gg crybaby
2014-11-30 18:49
I remember fifflaren getting death threats and arabic kids wishing CANCER upon him on facebook for losing a match.
2014-11-30 18:52
yeah but it wasnt all of hltv community doing it to him!
2014-11-30 20:26
I just can't stop laughing ... Flusha, if you read this, just admit that you cheat, that's the best thing you could do ! This lovely words doesn't change the fact that you (and prob others) cheat. Don't try to act like a victim, that's just sad ...
2014-11-30 18:49
You don't understand the consequences of what you are writing. There is no proof he cheats. He isn't overwatched or banned from any league despite having been reported a million times. No one reviewing demos has concluded he cheats. Fuck off.
2014-11-30 18:54
He came in at DHW and owned literally everybody yet people still call him a cheater. Ignore them, they are raging silvers the whole bunch.
2014-11-30 19:35
he wont admit it obviously at least not that he did it on LAN cuz maybe he have to pay the money back .. but flusha is so blatant -.-
2014-11-30 18:55
Flusha maybe you now understand, that cheating isnt funny too, for people playing against you.
2014-11-30 18:50
Impressive!
2014-11-30 18:52
polish haiku?
2014-11-30 18:53
yeah, quit you noobish cheaters!!! no more shitnatic PLEASE!!!
2014-11-30 18:53
"this is why i have never cared about the community, social medias and other stuff like that. I only do these things for the sponsors of my team." Lol, Flush is an arrogant biased cunt. That's the difference between a great guy and a fucking cunt.
2014-11-30 18:53
No, thats the difference between someone smart enough to see that the community is purely toxic like FLusha has, and someone like me and you who are too dumb to see it.
2014-11-30 18:54
its a toxic scene, yes. but mostly bec. of cheaters. i would love to come across flusha one day and "talk" to him. really would enjoy it.
2014-11-30 19:07
It still is the community that makes the game so popular and brings money for tournaments. If he isn't grateful to the fans, he is being a fucking cunt.
2014-12-01 06:28
Internet ... I don't know if he did cheat or not, but he is innocent until proven guilty. And the only proofs that could be OK come from software in that case and afaik there is none. Hope it won't kill fnatic.
2014-11-30 18:54
Hmm.. HLTV.org is like Ebola and aids together in the same place.. Never put these kind of stuff on this worthless f*cking site when 99% of the people are brainless idiots! Sad but true!
2014-11-30 18:54
I agree so much. CS is dead as a game to me now after this hate.
2014-11-30 18:55
don't hate the game i hate the community and what it did to the pro scene .
2014-11-30 20:27
instead of crying and saying how bad this community is, please explain us: HOW THE FUCK YOUR CROSSHAIR IS ALWAYS ON YOUR ENEMIES HEAD THROUGH 2-3 WALLS, AND WHEN ITS NOT, IT ADJUSTS IN WAY THAT ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO??? seriously, ofc you must cheat because you are always tring to avoid these points. Even other pro players, with more years of professional gaming than you say you cheat, so cmon, stop doing this victim role and give the community the hole version since this "I LIFT MY MOUSE ALOT" shit doesnt work
2014-11-30 18:54
Can you explaing WHY THE fuck a CHEATER would put his CROSSHAIR ON HIS ENEMIES HEAD THROUGH 2-3 WALLS? It just happens to be there....look at f0rest GTR also..you can put up 10 hours of them having the crosshair on enemies head trough walls. You aim at your opponents head so you have your crosshair there.
2014-11-30 18:58
omg I know, but his crosshair just teleports to players heads "without him knowing" they're there. Not even GTR f0rest or other pro player can do that... You have a bunch of gifs showing what I'm saying, you must know what I'm talking about.
2014-11-30 19:04
Yes but ive also been playin for a very long time and i played very much like flusha does and have played with other player who play like that. And after all he have played on many big LAN events....if he actually cheated he would have got caught. Im 1000% sure of this.
2014-11-30 19:08
people have been saying that KQLY was cheating since 2013, and yet we was anly banned 1-2 weeks ago. He can still be banned if he cheats. Also, pre aiming is one thing, what we can see on those gifs is another thing totally different imo.
2014-11-30 19:17
ye in your opinion. But everything speeks against your opinion except some noob fanboys here on hltv.
2014-11-30 19:42
Why he didn't tell something like that: everything on this clips is cooincidence, i lift up my mouse, i didn't use any kind of cheats in this situation instead this: "I have never been banned or gotten disqualified for cheating from a tournament/league/ladder in all my life, yet i have been reviewed by alot of different admins, for example ESL admins has reviewed me on several occasions."?
2014-11-30 18:54
Because all cheaters do this. They don't say "I never cheated". They say "I have never been busted."
2014-11-30 18:56
IDIOT: He already posted this an hour ago Since there is still alot of ignorant people. I have never cheated and i will NEVER cheat.
2014-11-30 18:57
Doesn't change anything though. Still standard cheater behavior. Rotten personality.
2014-11-30 19:08
Still doesn't change? Omfg, do you understand how stupid you are right now? I replied to a post where you used that as an argument, but then it turns out your argument is completely invalid and incorrect. And then you say it doesn't change anything. Hahahah.
2014-11-30 19:34
Nah I just noticed it, because like I said, all cheaters do this. It's very rare for a cheater to say "I didn't cheat" it's always "I never been busted." Just keep an eye out for this and you will see :)
2014-11-30 19:35
what doesnt kill u, makes u stronger yeah, quit and show how weak u are and that all r right- they will think u quit cuz of the threat getting banned pretty simple, isnt it?
2014-11-30 18:54
"It is just sad that you might have destroyed one of the best teams in the world with your hatred towards my team, some players in my team feels like there is no more enjoyment in the game and would rather quit than to keep playing in this situation." Good. Hope to never see anyone from team fnatic again. Obviously will not happen though, it is clearly very easy to cheat for prize money and get away with it.
2014-11-30 18:55
SO MUCH hate jesus...its not just the community ,most of the people of this planet are such a hateful miserable beings,nobody can help them ,nobody actually can stop this hypocrisy,hatred and jealousy that is possessing most of us and actually people cant even realize that for themselves which i can only pity ofc,like many wise people said there is only two types of people - good and bad and ill add this for all of u "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe"
2014-11-30 18:56
2deep4me
2014-11-30 18:57
+1
2014-11-30 19:00
Yeah. If people only read some psychology they would realize how retarded they are.-
2014-11-30 19:01
exactly,there is so much things people dont know about themselves...this hate isnt helping anybody its hurting both sides
2014-11-30 19:11
Wanna elaborate?
2014-11-30 19:11
Well he probably gonna have to search to university first and do the 4-5 year education. So maybe you'll get a mail in 5 years if you're lucky.
2014-11-30 23:49
i am just sad that internet warriors are here literally bullying this kid to the point that he quits doing what he loves! wtf is wrong with you people! ! ! ! if you saw him in real life and actually meet the guy hes probably a great guy you would get along with and call friend. but because all you know if some stupid gifs you instantly hate this guy im soo sorry for everyone on here flusha and JW for that pig thing! i think its rude to do to any human being on this fucking planet. hes not just a CS player .. he is a fucking human being. serial rapists and killers don't even get this kinda treatment from people!
2014-11-30 18:57
so true cs is dead now for me.
2014-11-30 19:00
i mean fuck LDLC even said stop hating on them. they are close to fnatic and actually had the boost happen to them THEY ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE THE MADDEST! see that what the community is putting them through is HORRIBLE! and the whole COD scene coming into CS:GO is part of the problem.. there is nothing but hate in COD players!
2014-11-30 19:02
Serial rapists and killers don't even get this kinda treatment?? Where the heck do you live?!
2014-12-02 01:59
Flusha also posted this: "Since there is still alot of ignorant people. I have never cheated and i will NEVER cheat."
2014-11-30 18:57
well yeah, cheating gets dull after a while. but i mean its still pretty lucrative considering the prize pools
2014-11-30 18:58
why all this fucking hate? why don't you just wait and see if he actually gets banned? you people are fucking bullies.
2014-11-30 18:58
He will not get baned because it was not same cheat. Vacation thing make community more focus on pro players and people notice flusha. When people see somthing is not right they started to search more and we had more evidence. We keep hearing that bad community do witch hunt but where are those other teams afected as much as fnatic by it? dignitas? no Cph W? no Navi? no NiP? no HR? no Titan and Epsilon have vac baned players so it didn't come from community. Only fnatic
2014-11-30 19:04
still not banned :( tournament finish
2014-11-30 18:59
Toxic Community.
2014-11-30 19:00
K BRY TJOCKIS
2014-11-30 19:04
I just find it funny how KQLY and Sf aren't getting near as much hate as flusha and they are actually the ones that cheated. Everyone mostly laughed it off made jokes about how they are banned and moved on, no movie clips on them , nothing. Then the undeniable hate on flusha continues day in and day out on such a larger scale to a point where people get verbally aggressive, some of you young kids need help.
2014-11-30 19:04
the fact why he is getting x10 more attention is because HE HASNT BEEN VACED YET - wich is ridicilous. It pisses people of I guess
2014-11-30 19:06
people are bullys on the internet, they dont need a legit reason to hate on you.
2014-11-30 19:07
damned tought he got vac
2014-11-30 19:07
#844
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Lithuania HORNAS! 
2014-11-30 19:07
#847
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Portugal dracø 
"i lift my mouse ALOT more than the average pro player." And it just happens to be when there is a head AGAIN AND AGAIN. Plus the swipe movement is done in angles that no one could replicate that accurately. Please, ofc this placement can happen from time to time, but not this frequently and not with a robotic movement. I find it funny that the same people that said that fodder was cheating is now defending flusha when the proof was the same, the only difference is that fodder was much more blatant. Flusha's clips in overwatch would be reviewed as aim assist by 100% of the people reviewing them.
2014-11-30 19:07
#848
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World LeviathaNz 
He is not clearly saying that he is not cheating... He is not even saying anything on the clips, like it is pure coincidence. I was not really thinking that flusha was cheating, it can all be coincidence, I have watched a lot of game since I started playing CS 14 years ago. And you can clearly see things like people "watching" each other through a wall and such weird situations. But here is the fact that it happens too often and the way the crosshair just flick onto people is not legit. In fact it could have been OK for him to say "it happens cause I just lift my mouse" but all his mouse's moves are not done the same way... and it just locks for a second on the target
2014-11-30 19:08
#932
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Lithuania HORNAS! 
14 years ? wow
2014-11-30 19:31
bunch of toxic shitheads in this community and especially in this thread. shame on all of you for being so goddamned gullible and easily manipulated by the mob mentality.
2014-11-30 19:08
+1
2014-11-30 21:38
I'm just waiting for the interview after VAC ban.
2014-11-30 19:09
oh yes :D
2014-11-30 19:10
Yes , now that some of the "safest" cheats got exposed and you cant use them anymore in the fashion you did previously mr Flusha , theres no more enjoynment. Ok ok ... All those videos with the abnormal , VERY SHARP , momentarily movement of crosshair that lands to opponents heads ( which clearly its out of your control, its so obvious when you gaining control again ) are fakes ( specially the video when you try to spay a guy at short in Inferno in front of you and mouse lands at others guys head as he entering short when you clearly losing control of crosshair ... lol so obvious in slow motion ) And yes you dont give a damn about community when community generates for you thousands of dollar ?!!like streaming viewers ,fans ( thats how you getting sponsorships dummy , how is possible to love sponsors but not fans.. thats how you getting sponsors! ) , sticker sales etc etc ... Its all about fans and community ! Ill tell you what ...Everyones eyes were on you in Dreamhack mr FLusha because of cheating suspicions .. and you just CANT handle it. Fnatics performance also was subpar unlike previous tournaments , was that also a coincidence ? I think not. You couldnt cheat anymore in the fashion you did in the past when everyone watching you with suspicion and after ESEA / Valve and DH CEOs keeping an eye too. Anyways personally i think you are a cheater from what ive seen in various videos in slow motion. Period. Ive seen many great talents and their aiming all these years , i never saw this sharp crosshair movement out of nowhere to stop at heads behind walls,smokes,boxes etc .. Period.
2014-11-30 19:14
Let me tell you somethin bro: you get the community you deserve. ciao
2014-11-30 19:10
France, you weren't invited to the party. Please leave.
2014-11-30 19:13
Sweden, you are butthurt. Please leave.
2014-11-30 19:40
Kazakhstan, you're awesome, please stay. :D
2014-11-30 19:47
Last four majors, DHW13: 1. fnatic (swe) 2. NiP (swe) ESL Katowice: 1. VP (pol) 2. NiP (swe) ESL Cologne: 1. NiP (swe) 2. fnatic (swe) DHW14: 1. LDLC (fra) 2. NiP (swe) Total score: Sweden: 2 wins, 6 medals France: 1 win, 1 medal Poland: 1 win, 1 medal Kazakhstan: 0 medals. i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/uploa..
2014-11-30 23:11
Bitch please, we just won our invitation.
2014-11-30 20:44
Last four majors, DHW13: 1. fnatic (swe) 2. NiP (swe) ESL Katowice: 1. VP (pol) 2. NiP (swe) ESL Cologne: 1. NiP (swe) 2. fnatic (swe) DHW14: 1. LDLC (fra) 2. NiP (swe) Total score: Sweden: 2 wins, 6 medals France: 1 win, 1 medal Poland: 1 win, 1 medal i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/uploa..
2014-11-30 23:14
bye, we dont need cheaters in cs
2014-11-30 19:11
gl flusha haters gonna hate don't give up!
2014-11-30 19:11
everyone hated you guys in the first place since the xelos thing with VP/NiP. ofcourse youre gonna get accused after that shit.
2014-11-30 19:12
- +
2014-11-30 19:12
"It is just sad that you might have destroyed one of the best teams in the world with your hatred towards my team, some players in my team feels like there is no more enjoyment in the game and would rather quit than to keep playing in this situation." Shit like this is why you're losing the respect of the people who don't think you cheated. It's a witch hunt. We all know it's a witch hunt, but you can't buckle under it and give in to it. Man through it and prove them wrong.
2014-11-30 19:12
Haha..you just went from accused of cheating to the guy the community hate and will hunt down for the rest of ur gaming career. But you don't care about the community, so you will be fine, right? The community are just fuckheads anyway aswell..so whats the deal with you not having fun anymore? :s
2014-11-30 19:15
Just watch a flusha demo and see if he's lifting the mouse alot or not. Its not hard to spot
2014-11-30 19:16
flusha gonna announce retirement:)
2014-11-30 19:16
that will save him a vac ban :)
2014-11-30 19:27
does olof lift he's mouse while boosting on overpass?
2014-11-30 19:16
I rly think flusha dont cheat! All videos about flusha's cheat rly dont prove anything
2014-11-30 19:17
I hope ESEA will ban them. If fnatic ll play at ESEA it d be a fucing disgrace!
2014-11-30 19:17
I wish he said he had never cheated
2014-11-30 19:18
Honestly I hate him even more now because of this balls statement. He should have kept his mouth shut i stead of this flowery PR stuff. If he "retires" because there is no joy anymore that's a nice way to dodge a vac ban. :)
2014-11-30 19:19
Are the clips strong evidence? Yes. Should he be banned by demand? No. If VAC gets to him then okay. Just leave it for now. He's not the only one and not the last one. There's a shit ton of people that cheat their way to the top.(or at least trying) Btw victim card is a weak move.
2014-11-30 19:19
#897
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Romania HAZAR:D 
no more cheats? fucking pig
2014-11-30 19:19
I laughed so hard about the "lift mouse" part. I should start trying this technique to shoot more precisely at enemies behind walls/boxes.
2014-11-30 19:20
If youre really about to attack the community that made you who you are today, attacking the only reason why youre making money playing a video game, then youre so overprivileged that you dint deserve what little respect this community can give. If youre such a soft skinned baby that anonymous hate and accusations of cheating will result in you quitting the game, then you obviously do care about the community. Professional athletes take so much shit all the time, yet you start crying adter a month of heat and give the worst cheating defense anyone has ever seen. Fnatic need to save face and just shut up from now on, because nobody wants your "play the victim" card bs.
2014-11-30 19:20
^this
2014-11-30 19:21
+1
2014-11-30 19:33
+1
2014-11-30 19:49
this 100%
2014-11-30 20:07
+1
2014-11-30 20:11
#1098
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World LeviathaNz 
Well said, mate.
2014-11-30 20:46
+1337
2014-12-02 02:02
wait one second. he says he has never been caught, why can't he just say that he has never cheated/has cheated?? if he said that i would completely forgive him but for some reason he still has to leave it in question.
2014-11-30 19:21
best team in the world meme forfeited and didnt even try to win... lal
2014-11-30 19:21
it wasn't their team's decision, it was the org that wanted them to forfeit
2014-11-30 19:23
lifts mouse a lot :D and thats why it goes dirrectly on somebodies heads:D
2014-11-30 19:22
does not matter if somebody was banned for cheating or not, if not that proves nothings... he can be more careful so he does not get caught etc. etc.
2014-11-30 19:23
Fuck u haters FnaticisloveFnaticislyfe
2014-11-30 19:23
"Idc about the community." "The community has made it unenjoyable for me to play." So you do care about the community enough to affect your willingness to play. If youre too upset to play because of what nerdgins say on the internet, then you dont deserve to play this game abpro level where the community basically pays you to watch you. Overprivileged nerdgin.
2014-11-30 19:24
flusha is angry because he was treated like a GOD in this game, "CLUTCH MASTER", until so many clips came out showing the weirdest plays CS have ever seen, and he never contributed to explain what was that. when ASPX got banned in brazil after cheating in WCG Brazil he was also silent, couldn't explain shit, and literally walked away of the interview without saying a word. Many experts and players called out flusha hacks, but he can't prove his innocence. The new story now is the lifting mouse thing. That's the most ridiculous argument I've ever seen in my life. How the fuck lifting a mouse helps in all of those clips? Been playing CS for years, along with some friends, and after sharing some thoughts, NO ONE thinks flusha is innocent.
2014-11-30 19:33
I know. I was just trying to stray away from me making accusations and focus more on how flusha is treating the situation. Lifting up your mouse literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
2014-11-30 21:41
just stop using cheater then
2014-11-30 19:25
I start to feel sad for Flusha and Fnatic
2014-11-30 19:26
In a statement like this he shouldn't have said : "I have never been banned or gotten disqualified for cheating" But instead, he should have said : "I have never cheated in my entire career" - or something similar. Odd statement considering Fnatic's PR... not negating the accusations...
2014-11-30 19:27
Stay strong Flusha and Fnatic team. The e-sport community is screwed because everyone is hidden by a computer online. The fact is, everyone who calls you a cheater, fat, or retarded would change places with you in a day (and are probably the same things themselves, hence the rage). They are sad individuals who don't understand the game on a professional level and are angry at the world. They want to be you. Everyone (famous) in the public eye go through this. Again stay strong and keep giving us the absolutely highest level of counter-strike like you have been. A year from now this will all be forgotten. Remember how people hated Fifflaren, then all of a sudden loved him? The rage goes in waves and someone is always the target. In order to be a pro, to be famous in e-sport, you have to be able to endure this. Losing Fnatic or any of its players would be catastrophic for the counter-strike scene.
2014-11-30 19:29
+1
2014-11-30 19:30
+9999
2014-11-30 19:55
he should kill himself, this cheater
2014-11-30 19:31
you even wonder why u team got that much hate? u tottaly deserved it: confrontations with teams, cheats rumours, the LDLC semi-final. The community is what makes you be what you are, if you can't get that, GTFO, NO ONE WANTS YOU PLAYING ANYMORE FLUSHA
2014-11-30 19:31
"this is why i have never cared about the community, social medias and other stuff like that." TheN WHy Are YoU GeTTinG so ButTHurT iF You DoNT caRE? :D
2014-11-30 19:31
Stfu and quit the game u piece of shit
2014-11-30 19:33
ppl are dumb. You supposed to shit on players after a vac ban, not before.
2014-11-30 19:33
Oops
2014-12-01 10:08
#942
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Denmark kaspeRztw 
When is it ever fun to play a game where you have to cheat to win ?
2014-11-30 19:34
How we can show respect when you and your mates dont show some respect in the begining for teams like NiP,VP and VeryGames everyone from you is so nasty just i hate you even when i watch you so nasty and ugly people xhAYXAH without pronax he is g00d guy!
2014-11-30 19:34
i believe him
2014-11-30 19:36
what about santa claus ?
2014-11-30 19:40
send an SMS to the number 1337228 and get your flusha's fanboy prize
2014-11-30 19:56
this post/s smells very well like a sneaky 'retirement' LOL
2014-11-30 19:41
#959
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Bulgaria J4R 
Well.. he is right.. the community is dreadful..
2014-11-30 19:41
OnlineJ next statement ?
2014-11-30 19:43
no enjjoyment to play without a cheat, sure next time pay your bill too supexo retard
2014-11-30 19:43
He's definitely right about the community, especially here on hltv. I'm not sure if it's a lack of mods or the site admins just not caring, but the comments on this site are ebola inducing. The only other "esports" site I visit on occasion is TL and compared to this site, it's a utopia over there.
2014-11-30 19:45
100% agree
2014-11-30 19:48
we can just be happy that there is THIS hltv community... so finally maybe there is a chance of justice, when fnatic will disband, gets VACed and punished for cheating, so the thousands of betrayed fans and viewers of this esport will get a hint of peace...
2014-11-30 19:54
Comments like "ebola inducing" are a big part of what makes it unpleasant.
2014-11-30 20:16
^^^
2014-11-30 22:56
"The last thing i would like to say is that this community is a fucking joke, ever since this witch hunt started 9 out of 10 messages to me on twitter/facebook has been insults or deaththreats. Cheating or not this community is actually a big fucking joke, lol.
2014-11-30 19:45
Seams like we have a lot of retarded teenagers here. First of all... IF he was cheating then he would be banned by now. ESL , valve and prolly more has watched and judged. And sitting and calling a human for those retarded things you are actually calling him for. Shows me how you´r parants must been treating you. So hope HLTV.org starts to ban all this threds about cheating stuff... This cummunity is a joke atm.
2014-11-30 19:45
You know nothing... your flag has warped your mind.. this is your brain... this is your brain on flag...
2014-11-30 20:47
LOL
2014-11-30 22:57
LOL flusha is a disgrace along with fnatic. "this comunity is a fuckin joke" "i have never cared about the community" and yet the blind delusional fanboys will still support that scum. anyone that believes the lifting mouse bullshit is retarded. lifting your mouse does not make your crosshair snap to people through walls lol
2014-11-30 19:46
Have you ever watched a game on de_cache ? everyone wallbanging there. i think they know where to shoot or not and where they can shoot trough or not... aa. i guess that 8 hours a day training make a diffrence.
2014-11-30 19:54
yep in 8 hrs training a dear who know where the opponent is and even in wallbaning the recoil will word in that way that you hit 7 or 8 following shots? lol, nover detected :)
2014-11-30 19:55
oh god you idiot fanboys that cant understand the difference between wallbanging and aimlocking. i will try to explain it for your feeble mind. his crosshair constantly snaps to players through walls which isnt human movement. it has nothing to do with shooting through fucking walls.
2014-11-30 19:58
#980
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Hungary adzeii 
you won't be missed bye cheater faggit
2014-11-30 19:49
Well, there are two more top players who are'nt playing for top teams. I mean schneider and twist. So if even 2 fnatic players retire, it won't be the end of fnatic.
2014-11-30 19:50
they also have deviljoke
2014-11-30 19:52
Devilwalk is like Fifflaren - much knowledge about CS:GO, but his reflexes just don't allow him to compete on the highest level.
2014-11-30 19:59
Why wont he explain that when he lifts his mouse enemy's had is on his crosshair?
2014-11-30 19:52
lol, all that time to think of a plausible excuse and the best he can provide is that he lifts his mouse more often than other pros? Brilliant; getting out before either the VAC ban, or his performances in future show he's no longer using aim assist.
2014-11-30 19:54
#994
United Kingdom wap 
Stop lying flusha.
2014-11-30 19:54
+1
2014-11-30 19:56
No matter if he cheated or not, this just shows what a sad state the cs community is in..
2014-11-30 19:56
Of course it's not fun anymore when you can't cheat. People are paying attention to you. But getting hate mail and even death threats is just way over the line. Just admit and be over with it.
2014-11-30 19:57
Do you even lift bro ?
2014-11-30 19:58
flushcatras :D
2014-11-30 19:58
FlushAtoilet
2014-11-30 20:00
who the flusha cares?
2014-11-30 20:02
c'mon ppl.. sending death threats?? this is fuckin insane
2014-11-30 20:02
really high ignorance in HLTV community detected. he lifts his mouse 2 times for 180 degress cause of low sensitivity and yet you think he does this to check someone through wall... and second dont forget demos look different in 16 tick lately csgo community became witchunters just like medieval age , when they burned witches down. just sad to see what it became now ;_;
2014-11-30 20:03
+1 so much hate... its sad
2014-11-30 20:04
#1020
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France rsi_rise 
This is a sad ending, no matter what happened or is suspected to have happened
2014-11-30 20:03