Epsilon and ex-ESC get Valve bans

ESL has announced that Valve has handed bans to the ex-ESC Gaming team and to former members of Epsilon for their involvement in match-fixing cases.

With just days left before the offline qualifier for ESL One Katowice takes place, Valve has announced a fresh wave of bans as a result of match-fixing cases.

Epsilon and the former ESC Gaming team, both of whom had been invited by ESL to take part in the event, have been found guilty of match-fixing and have been banned indefinitely from all Valve-sponsored events.


ScreaM was deemed not guilty of match-fixing 

While the bans handed to all members of Epsilon except Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom come with little surprise, the former ESC Gaming team's suspension is a shocking news that comes at a time when the players were about to join a new organisation.

Besides Epsilon and ex-ESC, the former ALSEN team, who were caught fixing an ESL match in October, have also received bans.

The following players have been banned from all Valve-sponsored events:

WinneR, who had secured a spot at the offline qualifier for ESL One Katowice, have been disqualified from the tournament as Valve continues its investigation into a match-fixing case involving the team.

To fill the spots that belonged to Epsilon and ex-ESC, ESL will host a last-chance tournament on Sunday with the teams that did not make it through the second European qualifier's Round of 16 and quarter-finals.

Poland Mikołaj 'mouz' Karolewski
Mikołaj 'mouz' Karolewski
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1219
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Poland Mateusz 'matty' Kołodziejczyk
Mateusz 'matty' Kołodziejczyk
Age:
23
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
280
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.17
Poland Jacek 'MINISE' Jeziak
Jacek 'MINISE' Jeziak
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1341
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.12
Poland Karol 'rallen' Rodowicz
Karol 'rallen' Rodowicz
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1237
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
Poland Grzegorz 'SZPERO' Dziamałek
Grzegorz 'SZPERO' Dziamałek
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1394
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Poland Michał 'michi' Majkowski
Michał 'michi' Majkowski
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
137
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.15
Poland Jakub 'kub' Pamuła
Jakub 'kub' Pamuła
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
14
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.76
APR:
0.16
France Robin 'GMX' Stahmer
Robin 'GMX' Stahmer
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
239
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.15
Poland Damian 'DiAMon' Żarski
Damian 'DiAMon' Żarski
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
14
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.23
France Morgan 'B1GGY' Madour
Morgan 'B1GGY' Madour
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.84
Maps played:
35
KPR:
0.56
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Poland Paweł 'innocent' Mocek
Paweł 'innocent' Mocek
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1148
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Poland Michał 'bCk' Lis
Michał 'bCk' Lis
Age:
-
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
5
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.09
France Joey 'fxy0' Schlosser
Joey 'fxy0' Schlosser
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
186
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1425
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
France Kevin 'Uzzziii' Vernel
Kevin 'Uzzziii' Vernel
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
262
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
holy shit
2015-02-06 17:22
#11
 | 
Liechtenstein Chamele0n 
,
2015-02-06 17:24
[*] rip pepsiloN
2015-02-06 17:42
#3
 | 
Liechtenstein Chamele0n 
A few players were not eligible to participate because of ongoing investigation. Kinda ruined their chances if they find no evidence
2015-02-06 17:24
#91
dktenso | 
Brazil lgzn 
I'm rather curious to know how much time was applied. Life lasting bans such the ones given to ex-iBP or 1 year suspensions like fxy0 claimed to have received?
2015-02-06 17:26
The restrictions are indefinite, and will not be re-evaluated before 2016. esl-one.com/csgo/katowice-2015/news/upda..
2015-02-06 17:31
looks like it got re-evaluated in less than 24 hours
2015-02-08 01:04
fxyo is a retard. and you might be as well. They are all banned indefinitely. That's not a life time. The bans are not up for review for 1 year. So they are not 1 year bans either. fxyo is dumb and thought that since it could be reviewed in a year it was a 1 year ban..
2015-02-06 17:32
#659
dktenso | 
Brazil lgzn 
There wasn't an ESL article by the time I posted in here hence my question.
2015-02-06 18:47
actually there was.. I saw it 2 hours before your post...
2015-02-07 01:56
ESL's article said that ex-ESC and Epsilon are banned from Valve events until at least 2016, when the bans can be reevaluated. WinneR aren't actually banned (yet), but Valve is investigating them and they're disqualified in the meantime.
2015-02-06 17:33
#5
 | 
Malta WATSKy 
WHAAAAAAT
2015-02-06 17:22
rekd I guess?
2015-02-06 18:00
wat
2015-02-06 17:22
lololol volvo gone really wild, are you serious?! xd So how about Shahzam? Almost the same situation. Scream is not banned just because GMX is licking his balls and said he is innocent? Ok volvo, seems legit xd
2015-02-06 18:53
Valve analyzes the vods to see who is playing bad on purpose, it seemed scream was playing his usual game.
2015-02-06 21:09
expected
2015-02-06 17:22
HIHIHIHIHIIHIHIHIHIHIHIHIHHIHIHIHIHIH youtube.com/watch?v=JHzrVo-nHrk
2015-02-06 17:23
HAHAHAHA lol.
2015-02-06 17:28
+1
2015-02-06 17:47
#536
czech | 
Slovakia harek 
+1
2015-02-06 18:13
#9
CIS Ume 
what the fuck?!
2015-02-06 17:23
#10
tHm | 
Denmark tHm 
OhMeGeeee
2015-02-06 17:23
#12
 | 
Malta WATSKy 
WHY EX-ESC?
2015-02-06 17:23
match fixed
2015-02-06 17:23
#27
 | 
Malta WATSKy 
when?
2015-02-06 17:23
Your brain is fixed.
2015-02-06 17:59
#24
CIS Ume 
Dunno but csgolounge had some investigations going on.. twitter.com/csgolounge/status/5620465578..
2015-02-06 17:24
skins given out by csgol went to their accounts (I assume)
2015-02-06 17:24
and winner
2015-02-06 17:23
not winner, they said they didn't throw
2015-02-06 17:24
ok lets belive them, and i said that they're banned from the qualifier
2015-02-06 17:25
wtf how can valve do that? they said they didn't throw
2015-02-06 17:27
Valve has not banned them yet, they are disqualified though cuz of the pending investigation.
2015-02-06 17:36
It's their event? They can do whatever the want.
2015-02-06 17:40
They're banned from ESL atleast, LGB / 3DMAX gets their spot to katowice. "Additionally, the following players are not eligible to participate in ESL One Katowice as we continue our investigation: Robin “r0bs3n” Stephan Tahsin “tahsiN” Sarikaya Koray “xall” Yaman Ammar “am0” Cakmak Antonin “TONI” Bernhardt"
2015-02-06 17:26
llets go 3D
2015-02-06 17:23
R I P
2015-02-06 17:23
wowowow
2015-02-06 17:23
gj
2015-02-06 17:23
RIP
2015-02-06 17:23
all scene banned.
2015-02-06 17:23
this
2015-02-06 18:29
That include screaM?
2015-02-06 17:23
Do you see his name? SO NO.
2015-02-06 17:25
#145
2015-02-06 17:30
"winneR (ex-myrevenge)" Valve continues its investigation into a match-fixing case involving the team. Hard to understand your native language?
2015-02-06 17:32
Did you read the correct post?
2015-02-06 17:37
Well we both can't read.
2015-02-06 17:40
Only you mate
2015-02-06 17:49
can you read?
2015-02-06 17:26
#145
2015-02-06 17:30
#145
2015-02-06 17:29
srry bby guurl
2015-02-06 17:31
its k
2015-02-06 17:38
reading is hard aint it?
2015-02-06 17:27
When article was first posted, there was not a list. +1
2015-02-06 17:29
But there was this: "While the bans handed to all members of Epsilon except Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom come with little surprise"
2015-02-06 17:57
There wasn't when I posted. It was just "more to follow"
2015-02-06 17:59
no
2015-02-06 18:26
How do you even know how to get to McDonald's when u can't read?
2015-02-06 17:40
#145 And McDonalds has those nice pictures with numbers so I can shovel burgers into my mouth w/o being literate
2015-02-06 18:21
True true, they are very thoughtful.
2015-02-06 18:25
aaaayyyyy lmao
2015-02-06 18:38
He wasn't involved in the betting. Like Skadoodle.
2015-02-06 18:45
#28
 | 
Finland tkbz 
lol rip
2015-02-06 17:23
So, no more stupid +ScreaM posts? Or ScreaM isn't banned?
2015-02-06 17:23
He is not on the list so..
2015-02-06 17:26
But that prolly wassnt there yet when you posted so nvm ;p
2015-02-06 17:27
yeah ;-)
2015-02-06 17:28
WOAH, you're being reasonable? Wow! Much unlike all the replies to #26.
2015-02-06 17:29
Haha diddnt even see that yet but I figured it was the case because I assumed he was smarter than that ;)
2015-02-06 17:33
he's not banned
2015-02-06 17:27
hehhehehehe
2015-02-06 17:23
MORE TO FOLLOWWWW!!!
2015-02-06 17:23
gg
2015-02-06 17:23
ESC but not WinneR? Wtf is going on? Edit: WinneR dq'ed. GG valve
2015-02-06 17:26
wut
2015-02-06 17:23
wtf
2015-02-06 17:23
scream is free!
2015-02-06 17:29
expected
2015-02-06 17:23
scream too? D: e: b4 u start asking whether i can read or not, the list wasnt there when i commented
2015-02-06 17:26
prolly, hes shady
2015-02-06 17:24
Hahaha
2015-02-06 18:04
ahhaha
2015-02-06 23:54
L2READ
2015-02-06 17:26
gg
2015-02-06 17:24
nice !!!!!
2015-02-06 17:24
knew it, thats why ESC was losing to lesser teams :(
2015-02-06 17:24
#43
dktenso | 
Brazil lgzn 
black friday!
2015-02-06 17:24
WTF
2015-02-06 17:24
#45
Luxembourg m567 
EX ESC HAHAHAHAH so bad rallen
2015-02-06 17:24
=DDDDDDDDDD
2015-02-06 17:24
Oh that's what ex ESC meant by their "new journey" ROFL
2015-02-06 17:24
LOL
2015-02-06 17:24
LOOL
2015-02-06 17:57
omg
2015-02-06 22:37
grrrr
2015-02-06 17:24
this is fucking hilarious
2015-02-06 17:24
#50
essal | 
Denmark essal 
haha rip pooland
2015-02-06 17:24
PEACE NERDS
2015-02-06 17:24
Lawl, how pros can be that stupid to fix matches?! :O
2015-02-06 17:24
what did ex-esc do omg ?
2015-02-06 17:24
#56
 | 
Russia r4jkkYNWA 
gg kurwa perdole
2015-02-06 17:24
wat
2015-02-06 17:25
Michal “bCK” Lis LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL COD4 PLAYER BANNED :d
2015-02-06 17:25
[*]
2015-02-06 17:25
OMG
2015-02-06 17:25
Deserved.
2015-02-06 17:25
m1
2015-02-06 17:25
#67
REAL | 
Norway kakkopp 
ahahaha
2015-02-06 17:25
HAHAHAHAHHAH RIP
2015-02-06 17:25
good to see the valve work HAHAHA
2015-02-06 17:25
wtf
2015-02-06 17:25
#73
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
LOL rekt
2015-02-06 17:25
RIP IN PEPERONIES M8!
2015-02-06 17:25
#80
CIS Ume 
Additionally, the following players are not eligible to participate in ESL One Katowice as we continue our investigation: Robin “r0bs3n” Stephan Tahsin “tahsiN” Sarikaya Koray “xall” Yaman Ammar “am0” Cakmak Antonin “TONI” Bernhardt esl-one.com/csgo/katowice-2015/news/upda..
2015-02-06 17:26
where is virtus.pro on that list lol
2015-02-06 17:26
i don't recognize any match that esc might fix. Can someone tell me which match it was ?
2015-02-06 17:26
I read that they bet on Alsen.
2015-02-06 17:43
ahahahhaha grats
2015-02-06 17:26
#86
 | 
United States L0MAA 
"innocent"
2015-02-06 17:26
get rekt hahahahahaha
2015-02-06 17:26
gg poland lalz
2015-02-06 17:26
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RIP
2015-02-06 17:26
Hello polska.
2015-02-06 17:26
omg, innocent... :*(((
2015-02-06 17:27
HAHAHAHAHA
2015-02-06 17:27
Kevin “Uzzziii” Vernel Joey “fxy0” Schlosser Robin “GMX” Stahmer Morgan “B1GGY” Madour Damian “DiAMon” Zarski Michal “bCK” Lis Jakub “kub” Pamula Mateusz “matty” Kolodziejczyk Michal “michi” Majkowski Karol “rallen” Rodowicz Mikolaj “mouz” Karolewski Grzegorz “SZPERO” Dziamalek Pawel “innocent” Mocek Jacek “minise” Jeziak The restrictions are indefinite, and will not be re-evaluated before 2016. Additionally, the following players are not eligible to participate in ESL One Katowice as we continue our investigation: Robin “r0bs3n” Stephan Tahsin “tahsiN” Sarikaya Koray “xall” Yaman Ammar “am0” Cakmak Antonin “TONI” Bernhardt
2015-02-06 17:27
very good that myr got banned. source for that?
2015-02-06 17:34
Here you go: esl-one.com/csgo/katowice-2015/news/upda.. But they only got "banned" for this event due to ongoing investigations...
2015-02-06 17:45
ok thanks, wont qualify for next events anyway I guess.
2015-02-06 17:47
n1 gg
2015-02-06 17:27
wtf
2015-02-06 17:27
Another bites de_dust
2015-02-06 17:27
hahahahhaahahaa
2015-02-06 17:27
lmao
2015-02-06 17:27
#110
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
LOL. no scream :D:D:D
2015-02-06 17:27
Where is mynio? lel
2015-02-06 17:27
ESC :o dafuq?
2015-02-06 17:27
Why the fuck ex-ESC?
2015-02-06 17:27
#116
 | 
Malta WATSKy 
why arent Winner players banned aswell?
2015-02-06 17:27
under investigation...
2015-02-06 17:30
wtf why no ban on scream? he's so fucking lucky and it's a shame a match-fixer as himself is allowed to play
2015-02-06 17:28
Because he didn't fix matches, you low IQ retard.
2015-02-06 17:30
no point in arguing with you since you won't change your mind, even when the evidence is right in front of your eyes if only you could think of the situation for a bit, oh well, that might be too difficult for people born without enough chromosomes
2015-02-06 17:34
"Evidence" when EPSILON players admitted ScreaM had nothing to do with it and they did it behind his back.
2015-02-06 17:56
Right because you have concrete evidence of him match-fixing that valve cannot seem to find. Get your head out of your ass hater.
2015-02-06 20:25
rip polish scene
2015-02-06 17:28
It was dead anyway. I'm glad Virtus isn't wasting time on any kind of tournament held by polish ESL
2015-02-06 17:53
for 1 Year or perma?
2015-02-06 17:28
#127
 | 
Portugal motioncs 
Gotta respect ScreaM for being a professional.
2015-02-06 17:28
Just being a decent person shouldn't be enough for respect.
2015-02-06 17:35
i somehow cant believe that 4 out of 5 people know from the throw but that 1 person doesnt its like they didnt lose a single word about the throw while throwing in teamspeak i hardly believe that was the case tbh but idk
2015-02-06 18:12
Or maybe they knew that scream wasn't gonna agree to this ever so they decided not to tell ?
2015-02-06 20:26
#129
United Kingdom QNo 
It's hilarious how all these guys fixed matches to make a quick buck but cost themselves tons of money in the long-term. The way to success is never the quick way.
2015-02-06 17:28
#130
 | 
Poland woikkerz 
WAT???
2015-02-06 17:28
RIP ex esc Stupid idiots having big potential to become a good team in the future and ruined it just for skinz This scene is hopeless
2015-02-06 17:28
ADMIN CSGOL SAID THAT: I can be honest and say [17:49:32] Courtney "Honey" Timpson: csgol [17:49:34] Courtney "Honey" Timpson: don't know [17:49:37] Courtney "Honey" Timpson: what this is about WTF ESL???????? no one showed any proof. we gotta wait and see.
2015-02-06 17:55
I hope so,if they are actually guilty then rip poland only byali and snax no future
2015-02-07 03:16
lol
2015-02-06 17:28
#133
 | 
Brazil romp  
lel
2015-02-06 17:28
AYYYYYYYYYY RIP IN PIECES ESC
2015-02-06 17:29
That's why ESC dropped them. :D
2015-02-06 17:29
Finally an example is set. They will think twice when this shit occur next time in their minds.
2015-02-06 17:29
whatz..
2015-02-06 17:29
#142
 | 
South America IFK 
WinneR too?
2015-02-06 17:29
#155
 | 
Poland sajlent 
Additionally, the following players are not eligible to participate in ESL One Katowice as we continue our investigation: Robin “r0bs3n” Stephan Tahsin “tahsiN” Sarikaya Koray “xall” Yaman Ammar “am0” Cakmak Antonin “TONI” Bernhardt
2015-02-06 17:30
#143
rain | 
United States Waagz 
Well, this is going to be a problem!
2015-02-06 17:29
[*]
2015-02-06 17:29
#146
athxna | 
Netherlands p2dr 
lol scream dodging bullet
2015-02-06 17:29
#147
 | 
Poland sajlent 
UHEuhEUHEUehuHEUEHueHuHEUHEuehUEHUEHueUEHEUhe
2015-02-06 17:29
shit
2015-02-06 17:29
#149
flusha | 
Europe An0n0n 
The end of professional cs? [*]
2015-02-06 17:29
Fck esc, thays why they choked yday vs lgb, they got last skins before handed bans.
2015-02-06 17:29
trolling or stupid?
2015-02-06 18:03
R.I.P [*]
2015-02-06 17:29
csgo will be so fucking good when all top players get banned for life. WOW VALVE, WOW.
2015-02-06 17:30
Quite frankly; How can this be negative? Players that are taken should be happy valve not run this into a trial, there is talk about a lot of money if they retrieve money on things they have won on CSGOlounge. Had there been talk about something similar in football, hockey, etc.. then it would have ended up in a trial immediately.
2015-02-06 18:10
#163
 | 
Germany Lifant 
Requiescat in pace
2015-02-06 17:30
[*]
2015-02-06 17:30
HAHAHAHA
2015-02-06 17:31
Nice! Good luck LGB, 3DMAX and Flipside!
2015-02-06 17:31
10 Polish players..... skinz>career
2015-02-06 17:31
#434
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
sad but true
2015-02-06 17:57
shame for ESC they really had talent to compete internationally
2015-02-06 17:31
#619
czech | 
Slovakia harek 
yeah, with ibp and epsilon ;)
2015-02-06 18:27
VALVE PLEASE WHEN WILL VP RECIEVE THEIR BAN
2015-02-06 17:31
WHEN NIP WILL RECEIVE THEIR BAN? THEY LOST AT ESWC IN GROUPS, FUCKING THROWS.
2015-02-06 17:38
#176
 | 
Poland enterq18 
what a shame
2015-02-06 17:31
#177
 | 
Poland kRAMERO 
omgggg esc, i feel sory for you
2015-02-06 17:32
Rip & we will see those players in the ghetto again or they'll try to play cod [*]
2015-02-06 17:32
Very good.
2015-02-06 17:32
#182
 | 
Macau fAKEs2j 
RIP!
2015-02-06 17:32
ESC BANNED..... WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON!?!?!?! WHEN DID THEY FIX???
2015-02-06 17:32
They did bet on Team Alsen. They knew about the throw and stuff
2015-02-06 17:33
jeez... all over a few skins :/ anyways ty
2015-02-06 17:35
on eliminacja vs alsen*****
2015-02-06 18:04
just rallen and mouz did bet
2015-02-06 18:06
#185
 | 
Finland Eepzie 
n1
2015-02-06 17:32
Excuse me, are we getting the whole scene ripped to pieces just because of some skins? I mean, What The Actual Fuck? Valve handing bans left and right to the players that draw attention to their game just because they didnt play their best in a one single online match, while these players spend their lives practicing for LAN events. Ok, I officially don't understand it.
2015-02-06 17:32
ok you are officially retarded
2015-02-06 17:34
You forget you're on HLTV until you read something like this comment. :)
2015-02-06 20:25
The scene will be fine without them and if they can do it Online, who knows what could happen.
2015-02-06 17:42
well, if there is somebody that prefers skins over real prize money at LANs then you're right - it better to ban them :o Why not ban every pro player? You know, who knows what could happen? btw. I've been searching csgol rules, and found nothing about not being able to bet on your own matches. Is there anything like that there?
2015-02-06 18:18
You can look at CSGL's rules all you want. They're irrelevant. Valve has decided to take action against players who knowingly and willingly committed fraud. Every pro player to have ever placed a bet because they have info on a throw should be banned. Every pro player that decides throwing a game is worth it should be banned. There will be plenty of pros left and the scene will only be better for it.
2015-02-06 18:35
The way this is going k1ck might have a chance to go to qualifiers xD
2015-02-06 17:32
they have not
2015-02-06 17:56
i think they're gonna lose their gaming before they get it lol
2015-02-06 17:32
ban scream too please. he is a retard
2015-02-06 17:33
minise 20year old player, who is is dependent on their parents to live without school now has to be worried about his future HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2015-02-06 17:33
You are so mature if you are happy when someone loses everything in his life....
2015-02-06 22:01
ye, 20years guy is dependent on their parents to survive, stays in home, doesnt do anything, no job, no school...
2015-02-07 11:03
W T F
2015-02-06 17:33
ScreaM #RESPECT
2015-02-06 17:33
+1
2015-02-06 17:35
#446
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
+1
2015-02-06 17:59
#688
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
+1
2015-02-06 19:21
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2015-02-06 17:33
Skins > world, fucking idiots.....
2015-02-06 17:33
Stop protecting scream and ban that fucking noob.
2015-02-06 17:33
seems like even valve and esl are fanboys of him... it's very sad seeing that's the case, just because he's a popular csgo player/streamer they don't have the balls to ban him
2015-02-06 17:35
Why should they ban him if he didn't do anything wrong?
2015-02-06 17:37
#450
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
Yea, they should ban him 'cause of his team...
2015-02-06 17:59
haha wtf :D
2015-02-06 17:34
BAHAHAHAHA dickheads!
2015-02-06 17:34
how to bet after this at all?
2015-02-06 17:34
Pawel “innocent” Mocek volvo pls he is innocent :D
2015-02-06 17:34
ScreaM is not banned <3
2015-02-06 17:34
#457
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
alone in the dark
2015-02-06 18:01
scream back to titan , or ldlc :D
2015-02-06 17:34
#219
 | 
Europe  Skaarj  
rallen :/ [*] The restrictions are indefinite, and will not be re-evaluated before 2016.
2015-02-06 17:34
lool
2015-02-06 17:35
wu dayyyyum
2015-02-06 17:35
Even though some people will cry now... This is good for the whole csgo scene in a long term.
2015-02-06 17:35
rip rip rip all around [*]
2015-02-06 17:35
ayy
2015-02-06 17:35
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2015-02-06 17:35
#232
 | 
Poland Mannix 
LMAO GOOD JOB VALVE
2015-02-06 17:35
RIP
2015-02-06 17:35
So it went from one year ban, to permanent ban? Kewl?
2015-02-06 17:35
I congratulate Poland and France.
2015-02-06 17:36
#240
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Slovakia magp1e 
over 25 banned pro players punished for match-fixing in last 4 months , gg volvo
2015-02-06 17:36
so fucing stupid to bet from their real accounts. why not use real money betting sites only and stay undetected? rip brains. Fuck VALVE. Again. Instead solving the problem they just move it away. Players ll still fix matches but use real money betting sites instead stupid skins.
2015-02-06 17:38
RiP in peperinos scammers #GoKaBuM
2015-02-06 17:36
RIP
2015-02-06 17:36
Virtus.pro next
2015-02-06 17:36
#468
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
don't u dare say that :/
2015-02-06 18:02
so what match did ESC throw?
2015-02-06 17:36
#266
 | 
Poland Kamfeth 
They didn't. Just wait, it's all about time.
2015-02-06 17:38
You realize that valve has their proofs and they are not baning because 10 kids on hltv lost their skins and said they threw?
2015-02-06 18:09
Why not unveil proofs then? Because they have not. It's a fuckin joke and at least 3 of exESC players will be unbanned. Minise, SZPERO and innocent didnt place bet on Alsen vs eliminacja
2015-02-06 18:14
Haha, so much hope! It's charming! They used insider info to place max bets on a match they knew would be thrown. "Just wait, it's all about time." Yeah, about a year until they can even get it reconsidered. Enjoy waiting a year! :D
2015-02-06 18:40
cya
2015-02-06 17:36
RIP IN PEPSI CSGO SCENE
2015-02-06 17:36
yeeeaaaaaah n1
2015-02-06 17:36
now we only have virtus.pro, c9 and scream left until the csgo scene is free from match-fixers
2015-02-06 17:37
#264
 | 
Europe  Skaarj  
vp are not match fixers...
2015-02-06 17:38
should have added "Kappa" stop your dumb hunt, being inconsistant = throws, hltv logic. dont bet if you cant handle loses.
2015-02-06 17:39
why the fuck would i add a Kappa when i'm serious? they have thrown several games, and there's solid evidence also, i've never bet on a single game, but i hate when teams don't play at their best level just to get skins
2015-02-06 17:40
Where is scream''s SOLID evidence ? Not his fanboy tho , but believe me his haters are also toxic
2015-02-06 18:08
GL volgare you can do it!!
2015-02-06 17:37
fuck scream
2015-02-06 17:37
remember the vp vs ldlc match ? :)
2015-02-06 17:37
Additionally, the following players are not eligible to participate in ESL One Katowice as we continue our investigation: Robin “r0bs3n” Stephan Tahsin “tahsiN” Sarikaya Koray “xall” Yaman Ammar “am0” Cakmak Antonin “TONI” Bernhardt
2015-02-06 17:38
#267
EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife 
rofl, betting is fucking joke
2015-02-06 17:38
WOW!!!!
2015-02-06 17:38
Finally I can breathe, there's nothing better than FRESH AIR.
2015-02-06 17:45
+1
2015-02-06 17:40
#480
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
+1
2015-02-06 18:04
Lawl. All in Property. :v
2015-02-06 17:38
"While the ban handed to all members of Epsilon except Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom comes with little surprise," fuck u screamy
2015-02-06 17:38
WHAT :O
2015-02-06 17:38
is this a perm ban?
2015-02-06 17:38
Haha rip ESC and they joined new organisation :v Didnt start playing and got kicked XDD
2015-02-06 17:38
Wowowowow nice one
2015-02-06 17:39
ouch, RIP Epsilon Ex-ESC
2015-02-06 17:39
pahahahhahahah
2015-02-06 17:39
rip esc
2015-02-06 17:39
any proof or just random accusation?
2015-02-06 17:39
GL 3DMAX!
2015-02-06 17:39
GJ Valve
2015-02-06 17:40
#299
 | 
Chile Cristoff 
omg Valve so stronk
2015-02-06 17:40
My god.. CSGO is RIP
2015-02-06 17:40
proofs, they didnt even say which one they threw. just go to minise fanpage, i cant believe they did that.
2015-02-06 17:41
VP next :S??
2015-02-06 17:41
so how long is the ban? and what about swag?
2015-02-06 17:42
#313
 | 
Switzerland Sylleo 
Pawel “innocent” Mocek lol nt bro
2015-02-06 17:42
Harsh, but fair in terms of precedent.
2015-02-06 17:42
#316
 | 
Russia r4jkkYNWA 
R.I.P Polska GJ , ESC Kurwa Jaja Perdole
2015-02-06 17:42
hahahah nice one
2015-02-06 17:42
#318
device | 
Denmark AwzuuM 
gg
2015-02-06 17:43
#319
 | 
Vietnam yolesnoobs 
Volvo!!!
2015-02-06 17:43
ESC banned but Scream not?? FUCK LOGIC
2015-02-06 17:43
He isnt polish, so he isnt banned, ma frend
2015-02-06 17:44
GMX said he wasn't involved.
2015-02-06 18:14
Scream is not banned cuz he is "big name", rest are almost nonamers
2015-02-06 18:36
#322
REAL | 
Norway kakkopp 
WinneR’s spot has been handed to LGB eSports and 3DMAX. Both teams would have still needed to play out the third place decider match in the second European qualifier in order to progress. However, this match is now no longer needed as both teams will advance to the offline qualifier.
2015-02-06 17:44
RIP careers...
2015-02-06 17:43
ahahaha
2015-02-06 17:43
looks like gaben lost his skins on esc, epsilon matches so he got angry on them:DD
2015-02-06 17:43
lawyers needed for ESC :D
2015-02-06 17:44
nice
2015-02-06 17:44
wtfffff
2015-02-06 17:44
frenchies are so bad
2015-02-06 17:44
#503
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
"white flag" says more than 1000 words
2015-02-06 18:07
your country is worst, m8.
2015-02-06 20:46
#338
 | 
Sweden mrarrogant 
wtf? if ESC gets banned, VP should too. ESC just put bet on the throwing side since they heard some info, just like VP knew the result of their game and bet on that game. None of them threw...Either ban one of them or 0, shame as im a fan of both teams
2015-02-06 17:44
+10000
2015-02-06 17:45
+1
2015-02-06 17:56
#478
 | 
Sweden Kasidro 
Yeah it is a bit weird. Neither threw but both had insider information. Though in ESCs case they could have come forward with their knowledge about the match fix, in VPs case it was no fix involved just greed
2015-02-06 18:03
+1
2015-02-06 20:27
#339
 | 
Portugal dracø 
Unexpected esc ban. But it's good that justice is being served. Keep it up volvo.
2015-02-06 17:45
+1
2015-02-06 17:45
BUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2015-02-06 17:45
[*]
2015-02-06 17:46
ex ESC clear!
2015-02-06 17:46
SICK!
2015-02-06 17:46
Does betting in any way bring money to the players or organization?
2015-02-06 17:46
valve just stop let drama happen but keep our teams pls
2015-02-06 17:46
gg, good that scream survived
2015-02-06 17:46
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D
2015-02-06 17:47
Please investigate the VP case though :)
2015-02-06 17:47
What exactly does banning from all Valve events mean? Does it mean they're not allowed to play in them or are they not even allowed to spectate and attend them?
2015-02-06 17:47
Play in them, or any qualifiers leading to them, who the fuck cares what they spectate or attend. Also other tourneys will probably follow suit, their careers are over, and rightfully so if you ask me.
2015-02-06 18:27
lel
2015-02-06 17:48
Hah, busted
2015-02-06 17:48
In which match got caught that stupid poles fixing? I lost over 200$ betting on ESC in different matches, fucking scrubs. Yeah, Im mad. Besides that, im pretty sure that more than 50% of pro players fixed some matches somewhere back then just to get some fresh skins. Pathetic as a fuck.
2015-02-06 17:51
#373
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Bulgaria vilgax0000 
why the fuck did they ban esc show the fucking proof volvo
2015-02-06 17:49
#508
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
+1
2015-02-06 18:09
Any polish please translate this ? fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-a..
2015-02-06 17:49
#412
Snax | 
Poland Mval 
I thought you for one of the best clubs in Poland, but the gifts are for someone more important than fans -we sold -why -? -you losing fans because of this -i needed earn for gift
2015-02-06 17:56
some fan asked minise why they lose on purpose and minise answered 'because i needed some cash for gifts' uahahaah
2015-02-06 17:56
#516
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
You can edit someone's comment in fb's chat with chrome's tool. It's easy.
2015-02-06 18:10
fake...
2015-02-06 18:16
so, all of these players are too stupid to place bets on unlinked accounts with different IPs? oh god, 15 years PC experience and still haven't learned a single goddamn thing. It's good they got banned so they can find something that they don't suck at.
2015-02-06 17:49
most likely at the time people didn't take match fixing that seriously. No one really had gotten any harsh punishments before. I doubt anyone would do something as reckless anymore
2015-02-06 17:56
it's easy as hell to get away with. csgl is dumb as hell for telling people exactly how they're investigating throws
2015-02-06 18:01
agree, but at that time there wasn't any players getting caught so there's that. Also players like dazed/steel still got caught even though they did exactly as they way you said. I think valve can trace those trades back to where it originates from. Though CSGL might have a hard time catching any fixers
2015-02-06 18:03
dazed/steel made the mistake of having friends make the bets. and I think dazed bet on his own account too which is just insane
2015-02-06 19:40
I dont believe!
2015-02-06 17:49
ESC IS FUCKING CLEAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015-02-06 17:50
“innocent” Kappa
2015-02-06 17:50
soon there will be problems fielding 16 teams at these majors, stupid mongoloids
2015-02-06 17:50
#386
Snax | 
Poland Mval 
????????????????????????????/
2015-02-06 17:51
next one is Clound9~
2015-02-06 17:51
innocent isn't innocent..
2015-02-06 17:52
I love how polisherinos trying to defend ex esc. Try harder guys. ^^
2015-02-06 17:52
And here I was thinking that ex-ESC left ESC to join a bigger org. Guess they left cuz they knew they were about to be banned.
2015-02-06 17:52
#394
Poland 801 
ESC DIDNT THROW. GZ VALVE...
2015-02-06 17:52
You are right, they didnt. But they knew about the ALSEN thrown and placed a maximum bet on it. Using insider information to your betting advantage is almost equally bad.
2015-02-06 18:11
And then not saying anything about it aswell.
2015-02-06 18:30
only rallen and mouz placed a bet on this match
2015-02-06 18:32
How do you know that?
2015-02-06 18:33
minise said that on his facebook "me, innocent and szpero didnt bet"
2015-02-06 18:42
Of course they will say that :p They are obviously not stupid enough to say that they did it, people will always defend themselves when something gets thrown their way.
2015-02-06 18:53
Maybe u r right, but why ShahZam is not banned? He bet max value in netcode game ?
2015-02-06 19:49
afaik he never placed a bet.
2015-02-06 20:12
"It's error" Kippa
2015-02-06 17:52
What a fucking shame XD
2015-02-06 17:52
byee byee esc :))))
2015-02-06 17:53
ez skins hard life....
2015-02-06 17:53
#401
 | 
United States 2d666c79 
scream: "alone in the dark"
2015-02-06 17:53
esc waiting for apologise
2015-02-06 17:53
#404
 | 
Europe AkyoNinjax 
They failed to ESCape from Valve bans.. Damn..
2015-02-06 17:54
ez skins ez life <3 People will never throw for skins xD
2015-02-06 17:54
GET REKT
2015-02-06 17:54
ahahahahaha rekt
2015-02-06 17:54
is this perma ban?
2015-02-06 17:55
so VALVE ban players, that bet on a match, which was fixed, meaning that they knew the result VP bet on match also knowing the result. So wahts the difference? VOLVO, ban VP
2015-02-06 17:55
Well I don't know about that, only tier 3 teams have been banned so for. ex Alsen and ex MyRevenge are not even tier 3.
2015-02-06 18:06
Epsilon?
2015-02-06 18:16
What about Epsilon?
2015-02-06 18:17
they got banned, too. So tier 2 and 3 teams :)
2015-02-06 18:18
Tier 2? No mate sorry, but they are tier 3 with ESC
2015-02-06 18:18
Imo lower tier 2, but I can live with them being in tier 3 :D
2015-02-06 18:20
CSlounge didn't gave skins on the VP incident
2015-02-06 18:09
and? valve is banning for scumming, and VP actually tried that
2015-02-06 20:31
I mean at this rate we will probably lose a lot of talent if valve is really gonna do this *betting* scandal RIP 2015 CS tourneys GG back to COD tourneys then :D
2015-02-06 17:55
:D :D :D
2015-02-06 17:55
LOLOLOLOL RIP POLAND
2015-02-06 17:55
"ScreaM was deemed not guilty of match-fixing" hahahah
2015-02-06 17:56
well atleast the -neo/taz +some one from esc crap will end with this.
2015-02-06 17:56
GMX self-owned
2015-02-06 17:56
Nice.ScreaM gl
2015-02-06 17:56
#424
hampus | 
Sweden Exxet 
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2015-02-06 17:56
wat, that's a really sad news lol, they were becoming better and better Katowice was their chance to break out, damn they're idiots really to waste their whole careers just to get some skins
2015-02-06 17:56
#428
 | 
Poland Marcines 
rip cs go
2015-02-06 17:56
do we actually know why esc got banned? everyone is assuming it was because of betting on the alsen game, but isnt that just speculation? maybe they just threw a game .....
2015-02-06 17:57
"To fill the spots that belonged to Epsilon and ex-ESC, ESL will host a last-chance tournament on Sunday with the teams that did not make it through the second European qualifier's Round of 16 and quarter-finals." About this, what happens to 3DMAX vs LGB game? When is this game? If this match is after the "last chance" isn't it a bit unfair that one of these teams won't get a last chance? If myR will get banned, just give the spots to 3DMAX and LGB and have a last chance qual for the last spot imo..
2015-02-06 17:58
#665
czech | 
Slovakia harek 
both go to qualifier
2015-02-06 18:55
Yeah it got announced a while after i wrote this :p I am psychic?
2015-02-06 18:55
#437
 | 
Poland Dychacs 
2015-02-06 17:57
#538
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
+1
2015-02-06 18:13
that was match ALSEN vs eleminacja so how the fuck this is match fixing?
2015-02-06 17:57
scream should be made CEO of csgo lounge..
2015-02-06 17:57
Valve is banning the whole pro scene soon there will be no matches to bet on.
2015-02-06 17:58
#442
hypn | 
Serbia hypn` 
rekt
2015-02-06 17:58
no mercy for unfair play ggwp go work for £300 a month ex esc shits
2015-02-06 17:59
RIP Poor Polaks. Those players will probably also come to Belgium to clean houses now.
2015-02-06 18:00
especially minise
2015-02-06 18:01
hahahah cya poland shitterz
2015-02-06 18:00
ty somalia <3 enjoy more black dicks
2015-02-06 18:31
calm down thirdie
2015-02-06 19:08
you are slowly becoming thirdie arent you? anyway by 2030 you will be, and good im sick of you.
2015-02-06 19:09
not really, and even if we did become third world it would take longer than 15 years to be as far down on the foodchain as your "country"
2015-02-06 19:12
you are so mad somalia.
2015-02-06 19:18
Volvo has spoken.
2015-02-06 18:00
ahahaaha Valve you are a joke! together with csgolounge and all these skins lovers I really hope this game dies really soon because everything about it sucks for old players: Do you remember the old 1.6 Lans where the teams in order to not face a better team in playoffs were loosing on purpose in groupstages???? Volvo you are a disgrace. At this point ban VP and everyone else who betted on csgolounge and kill your game
2015-02-06 18:07
RIP IN PEPPERONIEZ XDDD
2015-02-06 18:00
#459
 | 
CIS Shoxie<3 
no fucking joke fuck volvo
2015-02-06 18:01
Pawe&#322; "innocent" Mocek found guilty,the irony is strong with this one
2015-02-06 18:01
#464
 | 
Poland camarpl 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
2015-02-06 18:01
ban for VP and old LDLC !!!!
2015-02-06 18:02
everyday a new ban this bacame my favorite movie :D
2015-02-06 18:02
NICE!!!!
2015-02-06 18:02
Honestly, I feel like this is a bit harsh on the ex-ESC. They were probably able to feed their family and their village for several weeks thanks to the money they won that day, who would not do the same in their situation? Steal the rich kids to give to the poor people is good for Robin Hood but bad for Pro players, talk about double standards...
2015-02-06 18:03
glad scream's fine who cares about 2nd tier polish teams anyway
2015-02-06 18:03
#481
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Germany SpunKie 
Finally.. Thank you GabeN.. You saved my boring day
2015-02-06 18:04
hater rest in peace
2015-02-06 18:04
which teams will play the "new" qualifier???
2015-02-06 18:04
ayy lmao valve is logic at their bestest
2015-02-06 18:04
esc?!?! cmon valve...
2015-02-06 18:04
permanent ban or just 1 year?
2015-02-06 18:05
POLAND OWNED WORLD AGAIN
2015-02-06 18:06
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH youtube.com/watch?v=ZOlnx7oyOTI
2015-02-06 18:06
#546
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
+1 haha
2015-02-06 18:14
+57237567236 xDDDDDDDDDDDD LOLED
2015-02-06 18:17
Poles like skins
2015-02-06 18:06
Valve is slowly ruining the csgo community ...
2015-02-06 18:07
its all GMX's fault :D
2015-02-06 18:07
HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAA
2015-02-06 18:07
this is really bad for the csgo scene :'(
2015-02-06 18:07
VP and LDLC is different they didn't throw purposely, they just knew outcome and did bet but CSLounge actually didn't gave skins so in the end nobody lost skins
2015-02-06 18:08
So? It was an attempt and it failed and the got exposed. Too bad VP has a huge fanbase and valves are too much of a pussy to ban them
2015-02-07 04:18
gz xD
2015-02-06 18:09
GG Valve.
2015-02-06 18:09
#564
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
2015-02-06 18:17
Gimby nie znajo
2015-02-06 18:17
damn law should not work in reverse u cant fucking made a rule and then punish ppl what what they did before. ibp/esc/eps should fucking sue valve ;p ;/
2015-02-06 18:10
lol, on what grounds :D this is private affairs you idiot
2015-02-06 18:12
first i put funny face after my words so it wasnt seriously 2nd u dont have to be offensive to impress anyone here jesus these people here
2015-02-06 18:22
GJ valve. Altho its bad for the cs go community...
2015-02-06 18:10
hltv.org/news/12476-csgolounge-on-bettin.. Not sure if some of those people shouldn't be either on that list :)
2015-02-06 18:11
Oh boi! GJ Valve! The Lesson must be learned well by others!
2015-02-06 18:11
RIP in peperonis.
2015-02-06 18:11
Oh well prob made more money then they ever would have at tournaments
2015-02-06 18:11
haha, rekt. still funny how virtus.pro ain't banned yet though. They did the exact same thing as esc.
2015-02-06 18:11
So ESC knew about it and fired them before this happened? They knew?
2015-02-06 18:11
#526
Europe npH 
next: VP vs PENTA
2015-02-06 18:12
Additionally, the following players are not eligible to participate in ESL One Katowice as we continue our investigation: Robin “r0bs3n” Stephan Tahsin “tahsiN” Sarikaya Koray “xall” Yaman Ammar “am0” Cakmak Antonin “TONI” Bernhardt
2015-02-06 18:12
and they dont got banned by valve.
2015-02-06 18:17
#691
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
THEY'RE INVESTIGATING IT, polish pls..
2015-02-06 19:24
#FreeEXESC
2015-02-06 18:12
hahaha, it's so stupid...
2015-02-06 18:12
dont see how its stupid, you haev to pay for the mistakes you make especially with the way things have been going recently with more and more ppl and teams betting on themselves and if there was no actions taken it would even become worse going forward, so they got what they deserved, there might be more bans from other countries, which is fine.... the only part I dont agree with is the fact that there should be a ban duration provided for all of the banned teams.... even though many might say its fair to ban forever, I think it would be fair to give another chance and give out only 1 year bans taking into consideration the fact that its a game and ppl retire much earlier from competitive rather than a regular job, so the time durations in the 3D world is different from reality.... Anyway...
2015-02-06 18:16
Scream not banned, ex-ESC banned. dat logic
2015-02-06 18:12
omg i knows many ppl. which have info who will win and place on them but they are not banned SO WHY ESC GUYS ARE??!?!?!!?
2015-02-06 18:12
ex epsilon**
2015-02-06 18:13
bad idea to ban all teams and players. i think better to ban teamname and organisation
2015-02-06 18:13
CSGO Lounge needs to be banned to....!!!!!!!!!!!! Its a money making business thats destroy the esports and cs go ... they earn more skins and money then they need to give away?? and how its that possible?? Yea indeed matchfixing! ( ore you believe they make money with gamble??) otherwise the where along bankruptcy... So what players do is wrong ... but the real bad guys for the esports is cs lounge himself my friends!!!
2015-02-06 18:13
Polaks and frenchs.... :D GJ Valve finally!
2015-02-06 18:13
#541
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
As far as I've heard it was only two ESC players betting on that ALSEN game.
2015-02-06 18:13
They never had any regulations in place for this type of thing before all of this started up. When these match fixes started to surface they start banning players left and right. IMO they should have made them give back all skins, fined them, and then put the regulations in place for a potential life on ban from all valve events. That way all of the people who bet skins get theirs back, players understand that in the future they will have harsh consequences and we can still see all of these great players in action.
2015-02-06 18:13
So untill there is clear rule written down somewhere by Valve, match fixing is OK ? are you retarded ? they obviouslt themselves acknowledged that what they were doing wasn't a right thing. get rekt
2015-02-06 18:23
Theres no need to be a dick. With what I wrote people get their skins back, regulations get put in place, and we still get to see more great players in the game. If you don't agree I understand. Thats just my pov.
2015-02-06 18:32
Hahaha jebane cebulaki, brawo, teraz to sobie pogracie w MMy chyba
2015-02-06 18:13
and better to ban fucking nonames on csgolounge
2015-02-06 18:13
ESC didnt throw match... They placed bet vs alsen
2015-02-06 18:14
Rest in peace.
2015-02-06 18:14
The numbers are thinning down LOL. At this pace the entire scene will be replaced by 2016.
2015-02-06 18:14
New Team -Scream -Kennys -Get_right -shox -Pasha Easy Skin Easy Life
2015-02-06 18:15
tard
2015-02-07 14:22
r.i.p. csgo arena
2015-02-06 18:15
HLTV please change innocent nickname to guilty ty
2015-02-06 18:15
OMG. So many teams is ban already. CS GO is die because fuckin skins...
2015-02-06 18:16
BAN ESEA, CEVO, ESL ETC. Play only-matchmaking gg valve.
2015-02-06 18:16
how can innocent be guilty ? haha
2015-02-06 18:16
#576
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
ba dum tss
2015-02-06 18:18
lol
2015-02-06 18:19
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2015-02-06 18:17
Just remove all the damn skins....? Its fuckin up the csgo scene.
2015-02-06 18:17
nah, it grew the csgo scene. its all their fault for being dumb fucks that throw for skins
2015-02-06 18:21
remove csgolounge = best idea)
2015-02-06 18:24
#653
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
"Remove all knives from the world because of stabbings" - You, 2015
2015-02-06 18:45
Orbit you are next, 12-3 cachce as T then lost, get ready get ban
2015-02-06 18:19
Why ESC u greedy bastards! I loved them playing, they could be world top team one day. Cmon! :(
2015-02-06 18:18
#584
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Brazil mth^ 
ScreaM too professional!!! <3
2015-02-06 18:19
wait, I just bet against esc on the game that they were forced to forfeit because of the ban. does that mean I get skins or will the bet just be shut down?
2015-02-06 18:19
#586
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Germany 'ezpz 
Sad for ex-ESC they was a very good Team.
2015-02-06 18:19
Why the fuck would they ban esc lol. if i've read correct they just maxbetted on a match they werent even in (and kept the skins for themselves , unlike what happened in the ibp scandal) is it a crime not to snitch or what
2015-02-06 18:20
it is if you know about the fixing and you don't tell anyone. that's technically stealing an being a "partner in crime"
2015-02-06 18:22
if this notion is true shazam deserves to get ban too...
2015-02-06 18:52
innocent isnt innocent huehuehuhue
2015-02-06 18:21
Next target. Former dAT players (F3 now?).
2015-02-06 18:21
Make it round of 32 already ;)
2015-02-06 18:21
BIG respect for Scream :DD
2015-02-06 18:22
rip poland
2015-02-06 18:23
#600
MICHU | 
Poland Luucek 
puu.sh/fypHz/13df3bed88.jpg "We wrote to ESL, they don't know anything about our throws. We wrote to CSGOL, they don't know anything too."
2015-02-06 18:23
gaben is all-knowing.
2015-02-06 18:27
#607
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Australia TotalEclipse 
How long have they been banned for?
2015-02-06 18:25
5-ever
2015-02-06 18:25
forever ... they shouldn't be stealing from fans.
2015-02-06 18:26
fckin idiots, why they ruining their career in e-sport for skins?? valve pls delete csgolounge
2015-02-06 18:25
valve is greedy and wants money, they will never delete skins or CSGOLounge
2015-02-06 18:26
yes, it's sad
2015-02-07 21:57
expected
2015-02-06 18:26
im not suprised
2015-02-06 18:27
well, they say that there were only 2 of them betting on that match and it was rallen and mouz, so how the hell did the other guys get banned too? ;s
2015-02-06 18:27
hahahaha
2015-02-06 18:29
#624
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Poland dijef 
Altough the bet on alsen was wrong. At that time it wasn't forbidden to place bids as players. I think Valve should consider that. Also this ban is very late, which means it wasn't problem before, stupid logic.
2015-02-06 18:29
welcome to the first world rip csgo its very disgusting all this about money and gambles
2015-02-06 18:32
#629
aurora | 
Australia omag 
To all of the people that said the US scene is bad and full of throwers. Well the EU scene isn't looking too good.
2015-02-06 18:30
who will be next???? :D
2015-02-06 18:32
rekt hard
2015-02-06 18:34
Nothing of value was lost
2015-02-06 18:34
Fuck all you match fixers
2015-02-06 18:38
gg other teams will be banned and 3dmax is last one, 3dmax top1 ezpz fuck you fanboys 3dmax>world kappakeppo
2015-02-06 18:40
#649
Poland rvT 
Now it's time for Valve to ban skins and all betting sites... oh wait... $$$
2015-02-06 18:44
#652
Spain fd` 
Vacations everywhere
2015-02-06 18:43
Heh, nice logic, ban every proplayer who had ever bet becouse he can bet on fixed match. According to this logic, VP will be next.
2015-02-06 18:46
rip in pepperinos
2015-02-06 18:46
lol now euros have more cheaters and more match fixers than US in proffesional cs, guess we arent complete fail of a scene now ehh?
2015-02-06 18:47
#728
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Finland siloquez 
Y but 90% of NA scene banned, 1% of EU scene banned, that's the difference yo!!1
2015-02-06 21:09
Still better than finland scene.
2015-02-06 21:52
#766
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Finland siloquez 
OH man so emotional
2015-02-07 09:59
fuck VOLVO
2015-02-06 18:52
throw more get rekt n1 valve!
2015-02-06 18:54
sry, but this is a BIG STATEMENT from Valve to any player wants to be a pro : " NEVER EVER let yourself involved in match-fixing at any degree from directly participate, get and pass over inside info, middle-man for match-fixer and players, etc....." . Its sad, but there are always some innocent ppl sacrificed for a clean scene. Their names may be cleared later, maybe not.
2015-02-06 18:55
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2015-02-06 18:55
ahhahah 50% of polaks out
2015-02-06 19:03
I dont understand how a match fixing is relevant for a VAC ban but whatever i guess they deserve it.
2015-02-06 19:07
banned from valve event not VAC ban
2015-02-06 19:11
i will become a pro soon hahahaha
2015-02-06 19:18
WinneR 0wned
2015-02-06 19:21
One day there wont be any tier two teams anymore
2015-02-06 19:23
VAC VAC VAC VAC VAC....!
2015-02-06 19:28
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA KAPPERINIO
2015-02-06 19:29
rOfL
2015-02-06 19:31
LUCKY SCREAM!
2015-02-06 19:34
thank you valve.
2015-02-06 19:41
scream actually got away with it lmao. Remember when he taunted all his fans after throwing/forfeiting?
2015-02-06 19:45
got away with it. Like skadoodle got away too?
2015-02-06 19:55
Deserved.
2015-02-06 19:53
#703
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Denmark jjh 
NICE VALVE! finally those shady polacks banned! good fucking job!
2015-02-06 19:56
NOW GO FOR THE FUCKING BIG ONES, THE UNTOCHABLES.
2015-02-06 20:03
#705
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Argentina YH!one 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL i feel bad for ESC but get rekt pepsilon HAHAHAHA
2015-02-06 20:04
Rip throwers. Thank you valve.
2015-02-06 20:04
frenchies and polaks expected.
2015-02-06 20:08
#709
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Europe Dan Zero 
Why B1GGY?
2015-02-06 20:09
Wow. Didn't know about the ESC fix, so this was a bit of a shock. Glad ScreaM got away clean, and WinneR got DQ'd. Should make for a legitimately interesting final qualifier now.
2015-02-06 20:11
we want a clear scene. Is sad all bans when you like some players but it is necessary
2015-02-06 20:12
and scream no? seems legit..
2015-02-06 20:16
#731
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
and Skadoodle no? seems legit..
2015-02-06 21:15
#719
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Sweden klvmeister 
rofl
2015-02-06 20:35
Holy shoot, that's a long list of names.
2015-02-06 20:42
RIP POLISH SCENE
2015-02-06 20:48
I guess you can say that Innocent wasn't that innocent after all.
2015-02-06 21:00
Why the fuck is biggy banned? Was he a part too? I thought he was just a stand-in.
2015-02-06 21:07
#726
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Finland FRGVN 
not that innocent, huh?
2015-02-06 21:08
#730
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
this is insane. so many players being banned its pretty depressing. just shows how toxic the cs scene is and now the valve hammer is coming down
2015-02-06 21:13
Good news: Valve is being consistent Bad news: We just lost a third of the french scene and half the polish scene Good news: Scream survived Bad news: There is no one left for him to play with
2015-02-06 21:32
#739
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
rip poland, vp stuck with their roster till new cs game comes out
2015-02-06 22:00
innocent is innocent it's obvious!
2015-02-06 21:35
nice get rekt scums
2015-02-06 21:45
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2015-02-06 21:47
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
2015-02-07 04:26
I'm pretty sure that rallen participated in this 100%. This guy is scammer. I asked him 6 moths ago, when he wasnt in ESC he was in one of low polish teams. He had like 100 skins, 10 asiimovs, 10 fire serpent etc. I asked him "how do you won so many skins man" - he bet all on polish teams, and then he said " maybe i have info ". So im pretty sure that faggot won't be unbanned. But i can say about szpero only good thinks - he is good boy, not like rallen - crafty pig. Btw. Valve can check logs with rallen's chat with me ^^
2015-02-06 22:19
haha FINALLY... ESC deserved it, they threw a few matches so obviously, CUNTS.
2015-02-06 22:19
Yea cos ScreaM didn't know anything about this did he? :/ Bullshit he didn't know. he knew it.
2015-02-06 22:36
Soon pro players will be gold nova if the ones we have now continue to get banned. So stupid...
2015-02-06 22:48
What did esc do? But, good job valve banning alsen, eps, and winner
2015-02-06 23:01
#751
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Canada rdss 
ScreaM was deemed not guilty of match-fixing = volvo please...bann screamm like others...or no to bann others
2015-02-07 00:21
#752
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Russia 0MEGA 
volvo very nice
2015-02-07 00:44
I still don't understand why you would throw a match for skins instead of having friends bet $1000's of real money on egamingbets. Surely there is more to be won that way and it would be much harder to prove for valve as they would have to rely on egamingbets co-operation and its much harder to trace actual money once it's left the betting site. All you would have to do is put all your money together, have a friend use that money to make a couple large bets on other games and then bet massive against your team, throw the game. Your friend then makes a few more sizeable bets before clearing out the majority of the winnings and from there, its easy to divvy out the money without it being easy to prove it..... I guess what I'm saying is, all these pros aren't exactly criminal masterminds or even clever enough to realise that throwing for skins was 1) stupid and 2) always going to be caught by valve eventually... Why would you use a trade system that the company who controls the game owns and operates? Because they are morons. Let this be a lesson, if you are going to throw.... at least be smart about it!!!!!!
2015-02-07 01:02
if esc guys who were just betting were banned why shazam hasnt got banned either?
2015-02-07 01:17
Innocent not innocent
2015-02-07 01:53
Banned for 1 yeah or what?
2015-02-07 02:48
wow, half of poland Valve banned ROFL!
2015-02-07 02:51
#FREEESC
2015-02-07 04:23
Polish fucktards RIP!!!!!!
2015-02-07 05:54
when was the epsilon match that got fixed? because wasn't b1ggy not even part of that team at the time? unless its more recent that October like this mentions something about
2015-02-07 12:26
*puffff* just like that. LOL
2015-02-07 14:00
ez for uzziii
2015-04-11 02:40
rekt
2015-04-12 18:29
-RpK +fxy0 Double AWP setup like with KQLY ez top1
2015-04-12 18:30
See ya. You will not be missed.
2015-04-12 18:31
Its ripperino threaderino. WHy you needed to ressurect dis shit?
2015-04-12 18:33
stop commenting Kappa
2015-04-25 18:09
Tricked vs G2 (?)
2015-05-20 11:58
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