NBK: "Probably THE trap group for us"

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1. How confident do you feel with your preparation going into ESL One Katowice? Are you having a bootcamp or only practicing online? Is there something you focused on in particular (like new maps, individual form, scouting other teams)?
Hello! Our preparation for the upcoming event is probably the same than for the last one. We have been Bootcamping 10 days in order to focus on some points of our game and change some of our basics. We mainly tried to improve our global level of play, and working on developing as a real unit again.
Regarding the LAN, we like our chances of making a deep run again, but every team tried to change their basics. It will be very tough to go through all the teams, but I like our chances!
2. What do you think about your group? Can you go through each team and tell us how you think you match-up against them? Which two teams should be advancing to playoffs out of PENTA, LGB, Titan and yourselves?
This group is probably THE trap group for us.
The first game against Titan is always tricky. Playing domestic teams always create some special hype, but also special gameplays, leading often to a 50/50 matchup. Hopefully this time it will be ours!
Regarding Penta and LGB, both teams showed really good things lately and are at the top of their countries. They're hard-working teams, and can easily create upsets during bo1 games. No team has to be underestimated during a Major event. 
3. What is the minimum placing your team will be satisfied with in Katowice? Do you feel any pressure to succeed, will you be extremely frustrated if you fail to reach your minimum goal?
We need to continue our top4 placing streak! The satisfaction will truly come with a first place finish obviously.
We don't have special pressures on our shoulders. We're not entering the competition as favorites, and we know that other teams want to take us down. If we lose, at any stage, it means that we need to work harder to reach the top level again!
4. The professional scene has probably never been as competitive as it is now going into this major, but who do you think will end up in the top4 (in no particular order)? And who do you see as the most likely surprise, whether to win it all or get out of the groups ahead of some big favorites?
The top4 in no order or me would be : Fnatic, V.P, EnVyUs and either NiP or Titan. It basically depends on how Titan enters the day like. They are able of bringing excellent games, but also being shaky against lower teams. 
The teams that could surprise would be NaVi, Penta (again :D) and CLG. Respectively for their submarine mode, their hard work and talent, and their surprising explosion. 
5. Is there a player or two in your team who you will hope to make the biggest impact in order for the team to achieve its goal (whether in terms of fragging, calling the shots, awping, motivating the rest)?
We somehow have clear roles in the team, and we all have to fulfill it in order to pretend being the best team in the world. But I know that shox is going to try the hardest to shine the best, and I know that I won't be disappointed. 
Me ? I will keep practicing my Social Media game...
6. No team has managed to defend a major title yet. Why do you think that was the case the last three times and what can you do to break that curse? Will you focus on your mental preparation or change your overall strategy so teams can’t read you?
When you win a major, you become THE team to beat, and the other teams will give their best to do that. Fnatic enter the tournament as clear favorites, and that might be our best shot in order to defend our title. 
We're approaching the game and the event the same way as the last major. I just expect my team to play as good as possible, and if it's not enough, at least we gave it all. 
7. There has been an increasingly high number of online leagues and cups lately. How did participating in them affect your team, do you think it helped in preparation or damaged you somehow? And how does it affect the scene in general in your opinion?
Having lots of online leagues is beneficial for the scene, when problems aren't around. DDoS has clearly been a problem, and it hurts Csgo deeply. 
Regarding my team, we're not the best during online practice and lose a lot of efficiency. When you have to play official games, you want to show good things, and play with way more attention, so I guess it's a good thing for us :). 
8. What does your team think about the changes to Overpass and Cobblestone? Are the changes for the better or worse? Have you practiced them?
I've been pretty nasty when the maps where incorporated in the map pool, and that was stupid on my end. I love playing Overpass. The possibility on this map are really big, and it has given a lot of good shows to tournaments and to the CS public. 
Regarding cbble, the map is quite fun to play, but I would like to try out other maps instead of it. Few teams are actually practicing it, and it looks more that it is by obligation than enjoyment. 
However, the job made by the VALVe developers to change the maps and to continuously working into changes is good! :)
9. Do you like the current state of the pistols, Tec-9 and CZ-75 in particular? Would you make any changes to them or are they all finally balanced enough for competitive play?
I will go like everyone and say that the Tec9 is too good of a pistol for now. For such a low price, you access to a tiny m4, while running fast and oneshotting at close range. 
The CZ nerf worked well, and few people are using it now, altho it is good in lots of situations. I don't think there is a problem with this pistol anymore. 
Concerning pistols in general (-tec9), I think the balance is great. 
10. Reportedly the sticker money from the previous major, DHW, was split according to how many of each team’s stickers were sold. Which way would you prefer it this time, an even split between all legends/challengers or distribution per selling amount? Or perhaps you would like to see a part of it added to prizemoney?
To be honest.. I don't really have an idea on how the sticker money should be split. I think it is a good idea to let people chose which team they really want to support, and it makes it "fair". On the other hand, teams that are coming from far places, with less recognition, are earning less than the established super-brands. Both systems have their up and downsides. 
The VALVe tournaments are already somehow crowd funded with the eSports cases. However, there are way less cases eSports than normal ones, and there is no real transparency. I would love to see a system like Dota. Creating specific game-product for the biggest VALVe events, and stating clearly how the money is split to fund the tournament people want to support. I think that the stickers should be for the teams tho, and not starting to mix things up. 
11. What is your stance on the current tournament system in the majors? Ever since DreamHack Winter 2013, the system has remained the same with a BO1 group stage, as well as a playoff spot securing a place in the next major. Would you change it in some way or keep it the same going forward?
I think this format is brutal. Two losses in bo1 games and you're out. No matter where you come from, and how you lost. 
For such big events, you shouldn't be narrowed down to playing only teams that luck drew you, or because you got bad luck in map picks. I love the system that the International is using, however it requires a massive support from the organizations, to organize a week-long tournament, where each team would face each other at least once. I do think it is possible though, and I think many people would love following such tournaments! :)
12. Since the start of 2015 the prize money in most tournaments started rising fast. Although no single tournament “outweighs” the majors yet, do you think that time will come? ESL One Katowice will be a huge event nevertheless - do you expect the viewership record will be broken? How many do you estimate will watch the grand final this time (record is around 500,000 from DHW)?
To be honest, we're playing for a lot of money already. Nobody will hate it tho, if the tournaments decide to put more at stake! :D
The great thing about CS is that it is mainly community driven, and the community goes bigger and bigger. I think we are all looking up to that 1.000.000 consecutive viewers watching, but I don't see it happening at Katowice yet. The event looks promising again though, and there is no doubt that we will reach high levels again. Let's say 700.000 consecutive viewers if the final shows a great game !! :)

EnVyUs are coming into ESL One Katowice as slight favourites right behind fnatic, and are looking to become the first team to repeat a major victory, let alone back-to-back, after winning DreamHack Winter 2014 in early December.

The team has been thrown a curveball right in the group stage, as they will have to play a domestic match-up in the initial round with Titan. Apart from them, their group consists of PENTA and LGB.


NBK and company are the reigning champions

We talked to Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt for nV's pre-interview, which mostly revolves around ESL One Katowice and topics surrounding the event kicking off tomorrow.

In case you missed some of our previous interviews, check the table below and click through the others to see how confident teams are going into ESL One Katowice:

Sweden Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg: "We are where we want to be"
France Dan "apEX" Madesclaire: "[LGB] might surprise us all!"
Brazil Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo: "We want to reach top eight"
Denmark Finn "karrigan" Andersen: "We are a team to fear"
Poland Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas"Minimum placing is top two"
Slovakia Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács"Our goal is to win the title"
Germany PENTA"Aware of [Titan's] strengths"
Sweden Freddy "KRIMZ" Johansson"We have something planned"
Australia Vox Eminor"Dark horse will be us or FlipSid3"
Finland Joona "natu" Leppänen"[stonde] will bring chaos"
Ukraine Andrey "B1ad3" Gorodenskiy"We don't feel any pressure"
Norway Morten "zEVES" Vollan"C9 can surprise in playoffs"
United States James "hazed" Cobb"We don't have a ceiling"

How confident do you feel with your preparation going into ESL One Katowice? Are you having a bootcamp or only practicing online? Is there something you focused on in particular?

Hello! Our preparation for the upcoming event is probably the same as for the last one. We have been bootcamping for 10 days in order to focus on some points of our game and change some of our basics. We mainly tried to improve our global level of play, and working on developing as a real unit again. Regarding the LAN, we like our chances of making a deep run again, but every team tried to change their basics. It will be very tough to go through all the teams, but I like our chances!

What do you think about your group? Can you go through each team and tell us how you think you match-up against them? Which two teams should be advancing to playoffs out of PENTA, LGB, Titan and yourselves?

This group is probably THE trap group for us. The first game against Titan is always tricky. Playing domestic teams always creates some special hype, but also special gameplays, often leading to a 50/50 match-up. Hopefully this time it will be ours! Regarding PENTA and LGB, both teams showed really good things lately and are at the top of their countries. They're hard-working teams, and can easily create upsets during BO1 games. No team can be underestimated during a major event. 

What is the minimum placing your team will be satisfied with in Katowice? Do you feel any pressure to succeed, will you be extremely frustrated if you fail to reach your minimum goal?

We need to continue our top four placing streak! The satisfaction will truly come with a first place finish obviously. We don't have a special pressure on our shoulders. We're not entering the competition as favorites and we know that other teams want to take us down. If we lose, at any stage, it means that we need to work harder to reach the top level again!

The professional scene has probably never been as competitive as it is now going into this major, but who do you think will end up in the top four? And who do you see as the most likely surprise, whether to win it all or get out of the groups ahead of some big favorites?

The top four in no order or me would be: fnatic, Virtus.pro, EnVyUs and either NiP or Titan. It basically depends on how Titan enters the day. They are able of bringing excellent games, but also being shaky against lower teams. The teams that could surprise would be Na`Vi, PENTA (again :D) and CLG. Respectively for their submarine mode, their hard work and talent and their surprising explosion. 

Is there a player or two in your team who you will hope to make the biggest impact in order for the team to achieve its goal?

We somehow have clear roles in the team, and we all have to fulfill it in order to claim being the best team in the world. But I know that shox is going to try the hardest to shine the best, and I know that I won't be disappointed. Me? I will keep practising my social media game...

shox vs. NiP

NBK is putting some of his chips on shox

No team has managed to defend a major title yet. Why do you think that was the case the last three times and what can you do to break that curse? Will you focus on your mental preparation or change your overall strategy so teams can't read you?

When you win a major, you become THE team to beat and the other teams will give their best to do that. fnatic enter the tournament as clear favorites and that might be our best shot in order to defend our title. We're approaching the game and the event the same way as the last major. I just expect my team to play as good as possible, and if it's not enough, at least we gave it all. 

There has been an increasingly high number of online leagues and cups lately. How did participating in them affect your team, do you think it helped in preparation or damaged you somehow? And how does it affect the scene in general in your opinion?

Having lots of online leagues is beneficial for the scene, when problems aren't around. DDoS has clearly been a problem, and it hurts CS:GO deeply. Regarding my team, we're not the best during online practice and we lose a lot of efficiency. When you have to play official games, you want to show good things, and play with way more attention, so I guess it's a good thing for us :). 

What does your team think about the changes to Overpass and Cobblestone? Are the changes for the better or worse? Have you practiced them?

I was pretty nasty when the maps were incorporated in the map pool, and that was stupid on my end. I love playing Overpass. The possibilities on this map are really big, and it has given a lot of good shows to tournaments and to the CS community. Regarding Cobble, the map is quite fun to play, but I would like to try out other maps instead of it. Few teams are actually practising it, and it looks more that it is by obligation than enjoyment. However, the job made by the Valve developers to change the maps and to continuously work on changes is good! :)

Do you like the current state of the pistols, Tec-9 and CZ-75 in particular? Would you make any changes to them or are they all finally balanced enough for competitive play?

I will go like everyone else and say that the Tec-9 is too good of a pistol for now. For such a low price, you have access to a tiny M4, while running fast and oneshotting at close range. The CZ nerf worked well, and few people are using it now, although it is good in lots of situations. I don't think there is a problem with this pistol anymore. Concerning pistols in general (-Tec-9), I think the balance is great. 

Reportedly the sticker money from the previous major, DHW, was split according to how many of each team’s stickers were sold. Which way would you prefer it this time, an even split between all legends/challengers or distribution per selling amount? Or perhaps you would like to see a part of it added to prizemoney?

To be honest... I don't really have an idea on how the sticker money should be split. I think it is a good idea to let people chose which team they really want to support, and it makes it "fair". On the other hand, teams that are coming from places far away, with less recognition, are earning less than the established super-brands. Both systems have their up and downsides. The Valve tournaments are already somehow crowd-funded with the eSports cases. However, there are way less eSports cases than normal ones, and there is no real transparency. I would love to see a system like in DotA. Creating specific game products for the biggest Valve events, and stating clearly how the money is split to fund the tournament people want to support. I think that the stickers should be for the teams though, and not starting to mix things up. 

LDLC with their gold medals

EnVyUs have their eyes on the gold medals

What is your stance on the current tournament system in the majors? Ever since DreamHack Winter 2013, the system has remained the same with a BO1 group stage, as well as a playoff spot securing a place in the next major. Would you change it in some way or keep it the same going forward?

I think this format is brutal. Two losses in BO1 games and you're out. No matter where you come from, and how you lost. For such big events, you shouldn't be narrowed down to playing only teams that luck drew you, or because you got bad luck in map picks. I love the system that the International is using, however it requires a massive support from the organizations, to organize a week-long tournament, where each team would face each other at least once. I do think it is possible though, and I think many people would love following such tournaments! :)

Since the start of 2015 the prize money in most tournaments started rising fast. Although no single tournament "outweighs" the majors yet, do you think that time will come? ESL One Katowice will be a huge event nevertheless - do you expect the viewership record will be broken? How many do you estimate will watch the grand final this time?

To be honest, we're playing for a lot of money already. Nobody will hate it though, if the tournaments decide to put more at stake! :D The great thing about CS is that it is mainly community-driven, and the community grows bigger and bigger. I think we are all looking up to that 1,000,000 consecutive viewers watching, but I don't see it happening at Katowice yet. The event looks promising again though, and there is no doubt that we will reach high levels again. Let's say 700,000 consecutive viewers if the final shows a great game! :)

This was the last pre-interview for ESL One Katowice, tomorrow the action kicks off with EnVyUs versus Titan and PENTA up against LGB in group B at 13:00!

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France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1652
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Age:
33
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1786
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
28
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1450
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1154
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
Ukraine Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.83
Maps played:
899
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.16
Sweden Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1377
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.15
Finland Joona 'natu' Leppänen
Joona 'natu' Leppänen
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
188
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.16
Norway Morten 'zEVES' Vollan
Morten 'zEVES' Vollan
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.86
Maps played:
289
KPR:
0.60
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.14
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1528
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
United States James 'hazed' Cobb
James 'hazed' Cobb
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
736
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1538
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1623
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
#1
lainNy | 
Ireland kaaaas_ 
good read, gl NBK!
2015-03-11 23:14
Where is cloud9 interview D:
2015-03-11 23:29
#27
lainNy | 
Ireland kaaaas_ 
c9 dont even care about their placing in the majors lel..
2015-03-11 23:32
No HR interview no c9 interview CrazE
2015-03-11 23:35
#38
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Finland Jyubei 
There will be no C9 interview.
2015-03-11 23:38
once they get out of groups without Hiko then they will get a interview
2015-03-12 02:12
you forgot the kappa
2015-03-12 03:02
n1
2015-03-11 23:14
C9 said no, but how about HellRaisers?
2015-03-11 23:15
Didn't manage to reply in time, probably had no time.
2015-03-11 23:21
why would they say no for an interview before a major ? any reason ?
2015-03-11 23:23
As I said, they probably didn't have any time to do it anymore because of travel etc.
2015-03-11 23:25
aah ok ...ty .:)
2015-03-11 23:26
Ok, thx for info. :)
2015-03-11 23:27
Because they are too busy to play 24/7 ... well almost 24/7 i see you guys coming :)
2015-03-11 23:47
they probably know they're gonna get crushed so they don't want to build any hype
2015-03-12 01:25
I hope not. I bet 100 on them winning the whole thing. 3300+ payout :) PLZ PLZ PLZ
2015-03-12 07:29
#98
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Germany uRaguuu 
Plz donate me the 100$ its soo much useless waste
2015-03-12 11:31
HellRaisers best prepared team for Katowice confirmed???
2015-03-12 00:22
Any idea why C9 didnt want to?
2015-03-11 23:33
#69
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
probably same reason as HR. too busy
2015-03-12 02:39
#4
 | 
Europe NX7 
expected
2015-03-11 23:15
already cyring nkb xDdddd
2015-03-12 00:16
rip
2015-03-11 23:16
NBKry again
2015-03-11 23:17
#9
World tmvg 
he will keep practising his crying skill yeah when Titan will win the match !
2015-03-11 23:17
Complaining already...
2015-03-11 23:18
2015-03-11 23:19
#13
 | 
Israel TalOs 
Me? I will keep practising my social media game... ;)
2015-03-11 23:19
lol that troll tho.
2015-03-11 23:37
#14
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
already whining? p.s. didnt read ofc
2015-03-11 23:20
Why so negative
2015-03-11 23:22
crybk strikes again
2015-03-11 23:25
#22
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Finland jayss 
2015-03-11 23:27
crybk
2015-03-11 23:29
#30
tarik | 
Yugoslavia bleaq 
damn son where'd you find dis
2015-03-11 23:35
#31
United States mah9 
I'm dying to watch an international style group/bracket stage. So satisfying...
2015-03-11 23:35
i don´t like fnatic but i hate nV (just cuz of nbkry) so im 100% for fnatic if these teams step up
2015-03-11 23:36
I would prefer to see Navi win this Major but its probably not gonna happen :I
2015-03-12 00:09
or an underdog like penta/LGB/KeyD an american team would be nice and unexpected too like CLG
2015-03-12 00:12
be careful nbk its a trap!!!
2015-03-11 23:38
NBKtard
2015-03-11 23:38
nbk likes traps?
2015-03-11 23:40
#42
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Finland jayss 
Who doesn't.
2015-03-11 23:42
STFU little french 40kg girl
2015-03-11 23:57
NBK, nobody thinks you are the team to beat. You all only made it to the championship by a technicality.
2015-03-12 00:06
Yet they won MLG Aspen, and all three major winners besides them said nV are their biggest rivals to beat in this tournament.
2015-03-12 01:44
they have never won against fnatic on LAN tho, so I would still say that fnatic is the team to beat :)
2015-03-12 11:12
That's why he said fnatic are the clear favorites...
2015-03-12 12:44
I replied to #65 as you can see
2015-03-12 13:18
What does that have to do with anything? I meant NBK said fnatic are favorites in the interview.
2015-03-12 13:36
Yes, that is correct. Hows that relevant to my #95?
2015-03-12 13:41
All I did was make a connection to the actual article. Like they, nV, themselves also admit to fnatic being the favorites.
2015-03-12 13:43
So we all agree on that then I guess? :D my reply was solely directed towards #65 :)
2015-03-12 14:25
"tec-9 = mini m4" absolutely laughable. tec9 needs to be tweaked, not nerfed to shit again. this kind of rhetoric hurts more than it helps because valve takes pro opinions at face value, and when he's choosing his words like a reddit armchair game designer it doesn't do anyone any good at all. extremely typical and downright shameful.
2015-03-12 00:34
I bet Happy is unhappy with him aswell considering the fact that they win those eco/force buys more than anyone :O
2015-03-12 01:25
"valve takes pro opinions at face value" That would be a first... Valve takes pro opinions as valuable input, nothing more. Otherwise we would never have seen Overpass or Cobblestone in the map pool (among other examples). Valve has never been fully committed to the e-sport scene anyway, and it's not going to start now. They always wanted an hybrid game which appeals both to casual and competitive gamers, they've taken input from all sub-communities, and they will continue to do so. If you think they're reading every single word pros say about their game, don't have any kind of step back from the statements and say "amen" to everything they say, you underestimate them a lot. Ok, the tec-9 is not a mini-m4, so what? Everyone knows it's incredibly fast, pretty accurate and does great damage, three things a pistol should never have at the same time. His analogy is not that far from reality, and a game developer from Valve will understand what he means, don't worry...
2015-03-12 02:49
Gl there !
2015-03-12 00:49
in french we say "le relou/la tarlouz/le chialeur"
2015-03-12 00:52
Who cares
2015-03-12 01:33
peace out
2015-03-12 01:37
And what does it mean ? :)
2015-03-12 10:05
NaturalBabyKrying
2015-03-12 01:19
nooo......it's a trap
2015-03-12 01:27
I just hope NBK delivers and cries on twitter.
2015-03-12 01:39
gl anyway :-)
2015-03-12 02:07
why did the article name change?
2015-03-12 02:47
In b4 envyus wont make it out of groupstage =)
2015-03-12 06:35
NBK trying to add ":)" after every few lines is so annoying!
2015-03-12 07:01
what :) do :) you :) mean ? :) (:D)
2015-03-12 07:24
God I hope they go out in the groups, can't wait to see NBK cry like a little bitch.
2015-03-12 08:36
LOL, he's just kidding!
2015-03-12 08:51
#82
Happy | 
Georgia Sarkie 
so much hate in the comments... that's why i don't like HLTV
2015-03-12 08:51
The hate is unreal.
2015-03-12 12:46
pls dont cry on twitter when you lose to Fnatic again :( :(( :(((
2015-03-12 09:09
Kioshimas floating head :D
2015-03-12 09:15
#85
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Poland ekedeke 
bb nV not even top5
2015-03-12 09:44
Nice, had a good read.
2015-03-12 09:47
ez titan
2015-03-12 09:48
all in titan ez skins
2015-03-12 09:54
only reason they won last tournement is because they started crying like little bitches
2015-03-12 09:55
It's a trap!
2015-03-12 10:25
#93
Germany hwnp 
"Concerning pistols in general (-Tec-9), I think the balance is great." i call bs on that one
2015-03-12 10:28
yeah, pistols stronger than the m4 on short distance -.-
2015-03-12 11:19
#97
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Germany uRaguuu 
But tec 9 make the t/ct sides more balanced and after a losing pistol its possible to comeback and win a eco or force buy And i can ppay perfect with the tec 9 i like it ^^
2015-03-12 11:28
this is nkb trap group theme song youtube.com/watch?v=aZbTQ6bAbZA
2015-03-12 11:02
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