Valve set to replace nuke with train

The CS:GO devs have hinted via Twitter that they will be replacing de_nuke with de_train in the Active Duty map-pool come next operation.

With discussions of the need to reinvigorate the map-pool after the static, same seven maps have continued throughout multiple majors, the official cs:go_dev Twitter account has tweeted that de_train will be replacing de_nuke in the Active Duty map-pool in the next operation.

The decision may be influenced by the perceived one-sided nature of de_nuke, with the CT bias being on clear display at ESL One Katowice 2015, e.g. map three of Virtus.pro versus Keyd Stars.

Although this announcement does not mean the map-pool of the competitive circuit will change in any shape or form for the time being, it does suggest future changes to the competitive map-pool that may mirror this move, as well as the possibility of map tweaks for de_train (and less likely, de_nuke).

The new version of Valve's de_train was debuted in December after the map disappeared off of the Active Duty and competitive map-pool early in 2014.

bs
2015-03-20 22:52
such bs, first hue
2015-03-20 22:53
+1
2015-03-20 22:58
train 1.6 >train csgo keep nuke -season add tuscan fuck you valve.!.
2015-03-20 23:16
#237
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Georgia otoghost 
+1 we need tuscan and old train
2015-03-20 23:39
#502
Belarus 4rz 
Old train was the best :)
2015-03-21 07:14
for cs 1.6 train, u acually could move around freely, especially on ladders, without the movement of 1.6, 1.6 train wouldnt have had that wonderful feeling in csgo if the 1.6 train were to be inplemented by valve, the speciality were to fly away with right movement through ladders between the trains. and lets not forget the awesome movement u could get from lower like example this video: youtube.com/watch?v=TeihRKgyNZk
2015-03-20 23:39
Yes...I remmember whe CS had a competitive train even if it was ct sided....but with good strats you win....now in cs:go kidds just want aim and go...is sad to nerf Nuke tbh.
2015-03-21 00:32
+tuscan +1.6 train +old season
2015-03-21 11:17
+1 give this man a cookie
2015-03-21 18:57
#191
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Sweden Sexicano 
Train is one of the best maps, not the new version though...
2015-03-20 23:24
why i cant post on forums?? ):
2015-03-23 15:26
Fuck you valve "Nuke" best map.... Rip csgo
2015-03-26 17:58
n1
2015-03-20 22:52
#3
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Ukraine gungrave 
NIIIIIICE
2015-03-20 22:52
#499
Belarus 4rz 
Na'Vi!!!!!!!!!! They will be better now!
2015-03-21 07:06
trainn hypeee
2015-03-20 22:52
#9
essal | 
Denmark essal 
n1
2015-03-20 22:52
Expected tbh
2015-03-20 22:52
retarded volvo being retarded
2015-03-20 22:52
ez
2015-03-20 22:52
#15
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Vietnam NaMNaMNaM 
Not this shitty map that they call train, Right?
2015-03-20 22:53
hahaha wtf, replace cobble instead
2015-03-20 22:53
^^this
2015-03-20 23:08
agreed
2015-03-20 23:57
Valve thinks that random factors are more fun to spectate than the ones that require skill :(
2015-03-21 00:12
#387
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Ukraine fallenaxe 
yep, agreed
2015-03-21 01:45
+1
2015-03-21 06:07
this ffs!
2015-03-21 08:28
Cobble is a pretty good map atm tho, i really liked nuke tbh, hope they will remake another train and make it good
2015-03-21 08:36
not gonna happen.
2015-03-21 10:18
cobble<all +1
2015-03-21 10:35
omg...
2015-03-20 22:53
#19
Estonia rYm 
PLZ NO STUPID VALVE
2015-03-20 22:53
wtf, nuke is good
2015-03-20 22:53
Are you high? Basically most unbalanced map in CS history.
2015-03-21 00:55
I lol'd so bad at your post...xD
2015-03-21 01:11
#365
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Portugal dracø 
And what about it? How many games got to half time with 14-1 and finished with an overtime? That brings emotion to the match and requires mental strength to overcome difficulties. Games like TSM vs NIP, VP vs NIP, IBP vs Fnatic prove that the map is amazing in the pro scene. I won't mind with a change if it comes, but the fact that nuke is being replaced by a casual map makes no sense to me.
2015-03-21 01:18
My thoughts exactly
2015-03-22 00:12
+1
2015-03-28 23:38
#666
Monsen | 
Norway Piesso 
You obviously have not played office lately.
2015-03-21 16:34
cbble bitch pls
2015-03-22 16:21
CS_assault
2015-03-23 00:00
#723
NEO | 
Poland Elixi_R 
Rush as terrorist ---> easy game for you if you are outaiming your enemy :)
2015-03-23 14:54
it's T sided...
2015-03-23 20:21
it was good in 1.6
2015-03-21 01:03
Fuck off. Remove Cbble, if anything.
2015-03-20 22:53
i like but i don't like
2015-03-20 22:53
noic
2015-03-20 22:53
#24
Happy | 
Brazil Kurtt 
de_train_ve ?
2015-03-20 22:53
best train version in go by a mile btw 7-1^^
2015-03-21 00:48
#602
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Spain akproxx 
only for 1.6 fanboys
2015-03-21 12:14
new train is like SH IT train 1.6 >>>>>> train csgo >>>>>>>>>>> new train csgo
2015-03-20 22:53
1.6 maps > all csgo maps. on go u just see useless crap like chikens and trash all over the maps
2015-03-20 23:01
1.6 map version > all csgo maps
2015-03-21 03:19
Move on its over
2015-03-21 09:57
It's over but will never be forgotten
2015-03-21 10:36
+1
2015-03-21 12:36
hahahah, volovo strikes again
2015-03-20 22:53
nice valve is being progressive, good stuff
2015-03-20 22:53
what a bullshit
2015-03-20 22:53
I think Na'vi players are happy :p
2015-03-20 22:54
Kappa
2015-03-21 01:51
Navi didnt play nuke until last year
2015-03-21 02:25
Yes i know it
2015-03-21 13:06
WTF?
2015-03-20 22:54
nice
2015-03-20 22:54
Oh well... Nice Volvo. *facepalm*
2015-03-20 22:54
#34
rain | 
Russia Deimos` 
Tuscan, please, no nuke.
2015-03-20 22:54
#36
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African Union ArisA 
de_nuke R.i.p thought it was a joke at first :(((
2015-03-20 22:55
fuck valve are stupid wtf is wrong with them. take away nuke and keep cobble? and replace it with train? my head is about to explode trying to understand their thought process behind this
2015-03-20 22:55
-1
2015-03-20 22:55
#40
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Finland Jyubei 
Whos idea was this? He's a big fucking idiot.
2015-03-20 22:55
All the csgo devs are fucking dumb. They proof it again and again.
2015-03-20 22:57
+1
2015-03-20 23:02
prove != proof
2015-03-20 23:58
ONCE AGAIN COMUNITY IS FULL OF RETARTS COMPLAINING ABOUT NUKE AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS!
2015-03-20 22:55
YOU RETART
2015-03-20 23:02
kinda agree too much listening to the loud minority
2015-03-21 00:49
Yet they wont listen about the loud majority when discussing cbble. It's a classic map but its not good at all for competetive play.
2015-03-21 01:46
+1 nuke was a good map
2015-03-21 08:37
>flames the community about being retards >retart
2015-03-21 17:06
I'm in the minority of players that actually really like the new train (1.6 train was my fav map) but this move just seems silly.
2015-03-20 22:55
lmao
2015-03-20 22:55
Train a site is bad imo and it looks too shitty with all the useless stuff as Valve maps tend to do but why not just fix nuke?
2015-03-20 22:56
fix that shit and don't touch nuke !!!:(((
2015-03-20 22:56
finally
2015-03-20 22:56
They remove nuke cuz they are too dumb to fix few details of Map. Instead of nuke they will add train - one big piece of shit with most unoptimized fps, cant play that shit even on offline sewrver ffs. Meanwhile, we still have cbble in mappool and maps like season and tuscan will stay in some retarded operation positions. This is valve at its finest, ggwp, amazing job as always <3333
2015-03-20 22:56
+1
2015-03-21 03:32
+1
2015-03-21 04:14
+1
2015-03-21 17:44
#724
NEO | 
Poland Elixi_R 
+over 9000
2015-03-23 15:00
#51
Brazil Ehy 
HLTV confirmed :D
2015-03-20 22:56
#52
Norway stbb 
fucking stupid.
2015-03-20 22:56
The new train is bad... needs some major tweaks before its ready at this point nuke is 100% better
2015-03-20 22:56
New train is far from ready, but I'm really happy they do this AFTER a major, not one month before it. Now professional teams are forced to try out the map more than just few games, so devs get a better idea what to do with de_train. de_nuke is also just bad. It is so boring to watch when CT always get 13 rounds. I'm fairly sure nuke will come back shortly, but after some major tweaks to even it up a bit.
2015-03-20 23:22
#624
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Brazil hoovR 
finally someone with brain here, totally agree with you, now if the devs want they can revamp nuke to balance it and put it back into the pool, i hope in a better way
2015-03-21 12:54
train sucks a lot nuke is good but needs tweaks volvo logic ;/
2015-03-20 22:56
#55
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
good. i fucking hate nuke
2015-03-20 22:56
REPLACE COBBLE OU MORONS!
2015-03-20 22:57
have you even played new cbble? it is actually rather enjoyable now
2015-03-20 23:02
Yes i did, it still doesn't feel like cs.
2015-03-20 23:12
#200
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Europe DrexxEnt 
It's still a clusterfuck of a map that shouldn't be in the comp map pool; especially when Season and Tuscan are both better maps
2015-03-20 23:26
enjoyable =/= good for competitive CS
2015-03-21 03:39
the valve train is so cancer holy shit
2015-03-20 22:57
Train is nice. Looking forward for it...
2015-03-20 22:57
Better be Old train or a huge remake on A site on the new one if it's gonna replace nuke, the current new train a site is literally shit, the entrance is just awkward. Also you remove nuke but keep cobble ._. not against removing nuke but cobble is seriously the most boring thing I've ever watched in CS:GO competitive. I enjoy watching nip losing 0-16 vs fnatic more. and I hate fnatic more than any other team...
2015-03-20 22:57
I guess one reason to replace nuke by train on active map pool is to force professional teams and players to actually play the map and give some pointers what to do to make train better. Nuke is too onesided, I bet it will come back shortly after they have tweaked it.
2015-03-20 23:23
its easy how to make it better make it like before or at least go from there with this iteration of nuke they are starting at zero again imo
2015-03-21 00:50
#63
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Canada rayrayrayray 
Noooo the new train sucks
2015-03-20 22:58
WTF IS THIS SHIT. Nuke is my fav map...
2015-03-20 22:58
#70
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Serbia Suckleus 
train wtf..... retarded....so retarded
2015-03-20 22:59
add tuscan volvo
2015-03-20 22:59
WOW... just WOW.
2015-03-20 22:59
Might aswell update this broken game. omfg
2015-03-20 22:59
+1
2015-03-20 23:33
fuck off valve, nuke is best map
2015-03-20 22:59
what????? THE FUCK! Nuke is WAAAAAY better than the current train map we have. Train still looks shit. Can't believe this is happening. Next step is to remove Inferno, by this logic.
2015-03-20 23:00
I'd rather have Nuke reworked and Train is such a booring map that I would never play that anyway.
2015-03-20 23:00
#79
Israel minq 
bring back the old train.
2015-03-20 23:00
+1 <3
2015-03-20 23:23
"huehuehue" -valve
2015-03-20 23:00
-1.. Volvo pls..
2015-03-20 23:01
nothing is good for you people, just shut up and keep your negativity to yourself I for one am happy with changes like this as it means we can have many different maps instead of sticking to same all fecking 5 maps we had for last 10 years
2015-03-20 23:01
+1
2015-03-20 23:28
Well, at least they could optimize those new maps, bcuz now for lower end pcs they are almost unplayable. But this is fucked up. Replace one of the best maps with the succeeded experiment.
2015-03-20 23:49
well then maybe its time to upgrade it, i know i need to start thinking about it, just waiting to see how those steam machines work ;]
2015-03-20 23:59
"We don't implement 128tick cause the majority of people have bad computers" yet they make a map with 4763466 details
2015-03-21 08:41
the prob is they dont just remove the map from active dute see first they moved train to reserve and then they complete deleted it and replaced it by a new map that only shares it's name. It's that much of a difference tbh same layout but completely different gameplay I just fear they are gonna "change" nuke in a really bad way
2015-03-21 00:52
RIP NUKE :'(
2015-03-20 23:01
replace it with tuscan and everyone will be happy!!
2015-03-20 23:01
train? this map is a fucking joke lol train is only for trolling
2015-03-20 23:01
WHERE IS DE_TUSCAN VOLVO?!
2015-03-20 23:01
#92
Poland Onek 
-1 bad idea nuke is better than train. Old Train was better than new. GG
2015-03-20 23:02
-cbble +train please
2015-03-20 23:02
no please
2015-03-20 23:03
buff tec9 too plez
2015-03-20 23:03
#99
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
Untested new de_train stuffed straight into pro map pool, this is another repeat of the shitty Overpass and Cobblestone that needed many iterations of changes before being better.
2015-03-20 23:03
Why !!!!!!!
2015-03-20 23:03
no ty valve nuke is good, your train is utter shit
2015-03-20 23:03
#102
Estonia rYm 
WE NEED SEASON
2015-03-20 23:03
#103
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Brazil hugoooo 
Both GO versions of nuke and train are utter shit. Two terrible jobs. I would just prefer to see nuke removed. At least until tuscan is done and tested enough to take its place.
2015-03-20 23:04
#104
Poland rvT 
replacing nuke with shit train? And not what to tweak nuke? WTF
2015-03-20 23:04
fuck valve. then need to make a good choice for once that doesn't fuck the competitive side of the game over.
2015-03-20 23:04
finally Na'Vi will be TOP-1 =)
2015-03-20 23:04
true :))) navi got strong train and weakest nuke :D
2015-03-20 23:33
They had a strong old train, this is a whole new map :P
2015-03-21 04:59
np for them 1.6 train was strong too and new csgo will ))
2015-03-21 08:46
#107
Austria s3c 
why dont they work on nuke that it isnt this ct-sided. They also worked on cobble so why not again with nuke?
2015-03-20 23:04
#108
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Denmark Baitvice 
BULLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!
2015-03-20 23:05
Thank fuck for that, 1.6 Nuke was fine but the GO one is so unbalanced and boring to watch. I've been saying for a wee while that it should be removed and replaced and I'm glad they're doing it. Although I'd really have liked them to give de_bazaar a shot. It's a great map
2015-03-20 23:05
#253
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
Have fun on De_train_shit in silver.
2015-03-20 23:45
LEM but ok, have fun in MGE
2015-03-21 01:01
#370
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
Have fun in silver
2015-03-21 01:25
nuke on 1.6 was ct sided as fuck... nuke always been ct sided, they never figured out how to fix it.
2015-03-21 15:31
new train or old train?
2015-03-20 23:05
#112
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Poland Redrumowy 
They should fix train, but why delete nuke from map pool?
2015-03-20 23:05
OMG why no bravo maps like de_ali or de_chinatown =( VOLVO PLSSS
2015-03-20 23:05
CS:GO Dev logic: We're too lazy to fix this map. SWITCH IT WITH A SHITTIER ONE!
2015-03-20 23:06
#115
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Poland metal_cs 
bad move
2015-03-20 23:06
YES ! It's finally time to admit that Nuke is fucking bullshit. They could have reworked the map tho but you'd need to tweak pretty much every location and paths cause this map is totally unbalanced.
2015-03-20 23:06
1) What is so bad about it being "unbalanced"? It makes it even more exciting. 2) Train was more ct-sided.
2015-03-21 16:07
1. It's bad cause it puts way too much importance on the pistol rounds. If the teams have goot CT side on Nuke, the team that can take both PR will win everytime. 2. True that, but they changed it and i'd take almost every map if it means nuke gets out of the pool.
2015-03-21 17:30
both maps are pretty bad, but train is better than nuke anyway
2015-03-20 23:06
#118
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Turkey Grimstborith 
n1
2015-03-20 23:06
worse and worse and worse and worse What a fuck valve, maybe update vac? "0h no we will turn nuke and train and all maps to sh!t and fix some useless boosts"
2015-03-20 23:06
bullshit
2015-03-20 23:06
Well, this is a really stupid move imo. Like, train is even worse than nuke, and nuke is far too ct sited, but train is such a borin map, even more than nuke is. Remake tuscan or smth, just not train. O_o -1 valve
2015-03-20 23:06
*facepalm* if they dare touch my nuke,I will smack the devs in the faces,SERIOUSLY,nuke is like the 3rd best map after dust2 and inferno/mirage
2015-03-20 23:07
RIP nuke, we never see nuke again :( RIP [*] RIP
2015-03-20 23:07
Good job volvo! I like new train. It's amazing and well fixed. Former train was carbage and they made the new version very good. And thank you mom they replaced nuke! Omg thats a shitty map. /thank yew volvo /good bless volvo /keep going volvo /nokappa
2015-03-20 23:07
#126
broky | 
Latvia Tedis95 
no no no no no no no no no no pls no
2015-03-20 23:07
wtf why replace nuke to train, we want both maps just fix them!!! And Tuscan would be amazing.
2015-03-20 23:08
WTF?!??!!?!??!!??! are you kidding us? fix train first.
2015-03-20 23:08
Yes!!!!!!! that's great.
2015-03-20 23:08
WE NEED MAPS LIKE ALI GWALIOR OR CHINATOWN !!!
2015-03-20 23:08
1. remake train ... 2. add de_tuscan 3. nuke is good ...
2015-03-20 23:09
#390
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Ukraine fallenaxe 
+128 tick
2015-03-21 01:47
#481
Denmark onl 
And nerf tec9
2015-03-21 06:00
#133
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Greece her-1g 
cmon nuke seriously? this map is a history on its own! its better to replace cbble. ffs....
2015-03-20 23:09
#134
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Estonia syccc 
valve again forcing to play.
2015-03-20 23:09
noooo
2015-03-20 23:09
Once again the csgo devs show how clueless they are. What we had so far: - cz imba for month - now tec9 is fucking retarded - ridiculous aug at one point (pros agreed not to use it. Thats how fucking dumb the aug was) - moving flower pot top mid several times. After moving it the first time cause it blocked window it then blocked visibility to connector. After that they moved it again. They could have just removed it completely from the start. Noone needs a dumb flower pot. - scout still fucking ridiculous for its price - smokes still buggy after several patches - incompetence to fix wallbang resulted in those stupid doors on dust2 - 75 dmg chest hit deagle. Even over long distances. (pros also agreed not to use it) - hitboxes still don't allign correctly with the actual model I probably still forgot alot.
2015-03-20 23:09
so true :D
2015-03-21 01:42
+1
2015-03-21 16:08
Sad day for c9 haha
2015-03-20 23:10
lol new train is shit :[
2015-03-20 23:10
is this a joke? such a bad idea.
2015-03-20 23:11
this new train is so fucking horrible it's retarded they would even think about that...
2015-03-20 23:12
ohhh god none even likes the new train, its not ready for majors
2015-03-20 23:12
Might be a good change, maybe they update nuke in the meanwhile who knows
2015-03-20 23:12
I DONT EVEN... WHAT IS THIS... I'm out.
2015-03-20 23:13
train still ct sided , dont will not change as much !
2015-03-20 23:13
Here is a fun Idea, why not replace fucking Cobblestone with Train ? 0_o
2015-03-20 23:14
#149
Dosia | 
Norway Skagos 
-Rep valve
2015-03-20 23:15
LOL this is a joke. Valve is so clueless. Train is an awful awful map. Bunch of idiots
2015-03-20 23:15
SEASIDE ALI OVERGROWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015-03-20 23:15
why not just add and not replace? :P
2015-03-20 23:16
new train = 20fps nuke forever
2015-03-20 23:16
#160
f0rest | 
Algeria NS! 
FML
2015-03-20 23:17
#161
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Finland jayss 
no love for aztec :(
2015-03-20 23:17
#162
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Latvia GekonsCS 
seriously ? fuck season is worse than nuke, add tuscan please, or atleast make train 1.6 like ...
2015-03-20 23:18
New season would be x1 million times better than the updated train...
2015-03-20 23:18
New season would be good over new Train but I would want nuke to stay
2015-03-20 23:20
Nuke is a good map yea its one sided but its a good map the new Train is the worst map ever
2015-03-20 23:18
#167
AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD 
FailFish Valve CSGO developers are braindead
2015-03-20 23:19
why wouldn't they drop overpass or cbble over nuke...?? It doesn't make any sense to me.
2015-03-20 23:19
#194
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Finland jayss 
As fun as nuke is in MM, in pro matches having strong CT side is just way too easy and the map relies too much on pistol rounds. Compared to that overpass and cbblestone are much more balanced
2015-03-20 23:25
I think nuke is a better competitive map than the two others, even if it is more ct sided. On another note, I don't play MM.
2015-03-21 03:25
worst decision ever made by this funny DEVS
2015-03-20 23:20
really valve? REALLY? I'd love to see volcano's train then, not your original piece of shit version :D
2015-03-20 23:20
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!
2015-03-20 23:20
Bad idea :/
2015-03-20 23:21
WHAT? YOU CANT REMOVE NUKE
2015-03-20 23:21
ffs wtf
2015-03-20 23:21
i like nuke, but is way too ct sided :P
2015-03-20 23:22
#180
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United Kingdom paullll 
Nuke is a good map. This is a shit update.
2015-03-20 23:22
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2015-03-20 23:22
horseshit.
2015-03-20 23:23
Nuke is my favoutite :D
2015-03-20 23:23
favourite*
2015-03-20 23:29
NaVi to win next major !!!
2015-03-20 23:23
what??? This cannot be serious
2015-03-20 23:24
#190
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Europe DrexxEnt 
Buuuuuullshiiiiiiit
2015-03-20 23:24
How good of Volvo to listen to silvers that don't know how to smoke yard or throw a flash and therefore think it's the map fault when a decent team 16-0's OnlinerinoMixTeam420. Nuke is a fun map when played by two good teams, much thanks to the quick rotations (which actually can be exploited by both sides). Of course Volvo will keep Cobblestone that no one likes outside of the 10on10 scene.
2015-03-20 23:24
#210
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Finland jayss 
People seemed to thoroughly enjoy the cbblestone matches in Katowice as did I. Pros seem to take a liking to it too
2015-03-20 23:29
instead of adding fkn tuscan they replace nuke
2015-03-20 23:24
This is a good change. Nuke at it's current state is really unbalanced. Thank you valve, you heard it here first boys.
2015-03-20 23:25
+season +tuscan -overpass -cbble -TRAIN!!
2015-03-20 23:25
#198
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Finland merkkis 
Fucking Valve ruining everything <.<
2015-03-20 23:25
#199
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World LeviathaNz 
They replace a CT sided map by another one... Why not adding season ? It is a very good & balanced map. This map is also really nice to watch. The whole yard on Train needs a severe rework. As much as I love this map, I do feel like it's not ready in its state right now. They have to remove the control room over the CT mid, remove the boxes next to Ivy, move the crashed train (A spot) a little further from the CT mid, add an electric panel again or a train when you go out from ladder. Make the T mid wider and add a train in front of CT mid, so the T's got a chance to go out from mid without getting 4 molotov from mid without actually being able to see them. Make the skyboxes over the T mid higher, so you can flash over when coming from T Spawn. Well... There are much more to say :< Only the B part of the map is actually balanced.
2015-03-20 23:25
#201
Czech Republic mbS 
what a shit devs...
2015-03-20 23:26
Wow... I hope they did this tweet after their hangover in katowice
2015-03-20 23:27
Also bring back the tactical shield from Condition Zero. Dust1 too, nice map.
2015-03-20 23:27
YES !!
2015-03-20 23:27
seriously ? noooo, seriously? ^o^ train sucks
2015-03-20 23:27
oh i love this
2015-03-20 23:28
FUCKING VALVE CANT GET ANYTHING DONE RIGHT. MAPPOOL CONSISTS NOW 3 BS MAPS cobble, overpass and train. + UTTER SHIT VERSIONS OF MIRAGE, D2 AND INFERNO.
2015-03-20 23:30
Why would you leave Cobblepass in and take out a perfectly-good map instead. Why why why why why why why why why why
2015-03-20 23:30
#231
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Finland jayss 
As it is explained in the topic, Nuke is simply way too one-sided, the map records of nuke in katowice are just ridiculous and the map relies too heavily on pistols. The new cobblestone is great, I don't know what you're talking about.
2015-03-20 23:35
Cbble is alright, I wouldn't mind leaving it in. But nobody plays Cbble or Overpass unless they're forced. Nuke has been around for years and nobody's ever complained. I really want to know whether Valve talked with any of the pros first before deciding that nobody wanted to play Nuke anymore.
2015-03-21 00:09
everyone complains about nuke being ct sided since 1.6... that map can't be in a official map pool if it can't be fixed.
2015-03-21 15:36
valve doesn't care about competitive stats 85% were using m4a1-s its getting more all the time but because casuals use both m4s 50/50 they think its balanced why don't they apply that logic to maps?
2015-03-21 00:55
Good. Winning both pistols is basically auto win for these pro teams. Won't miss it 1 bit.
2015-03-20 23:30
great for fnatic, they did the right choice not practice it
2015-03-20 23:31
Finally train goes into the map pool. Train was a cornerstone map that was hard to master for many pro teams way back from 1.6 This should showcase the level of csgo pros with this map.
2015-03-20 23:32
+1, love train <3
2015-03-20 23:32
keep cobblestone/overpass get rid of nuke valve ur fuckin retarded
2015-03-20 23:32
expected
2015-03-20 23:33
#224
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CIS chlenixon 
get a proper train then, not this shitty sci-fi season-ish train.
2015-03-20 23:33
+1 +1 +1 need de train_ve
2015-03-21 01:00
Finally! Nuke is the worst map.
2015-03-20 23:34
go home valve. you are drunk.
2015-03-20 23:34
i'm done. gg valve.
2015-03-20 23:34
LoL we wanted changes, not chaning map with train volvo at best.
2015-03-20 23:35
omg this game need many fixes movement,maps,hitboxes etc.etc.etc wait for 5years guys
2015-03-20 23:35
these devs are missing 4chromoX for sure
2015-03-20 23:35
SUCH_L33T_BR03_DUD3
2015-03-20 23:39
#232
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
Get your shit together Volvo. Don't add more broken bullshit and FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME instead.
2015-03-20 23:35
Will be interesting for sure.
2015-03-20 23:36
idunno
2015-03-20 23:36
#235
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
Coming up next on HLTV.org: Volvo remove Mirage, Cache and Inferno, add Militia, Insertion and fy_poolday.
2015-03-20 23:37
lol +1
2015-03-20 23:39
aztec and dust1 makes the big comeback
2015-03-20 23:39
#245
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
Revamped versions of Aztec and Dust with flashier weather effects and more fog, nonetheless. SHAKE MY FUCKING HEAD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, VOLVO?
2015-03-20 23:42
#239
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Belarus ALBiNh0 
valve gonna valve
2015-03-20 23:39
-1 remove de_nuke & de_train and put de_tuscan in the active map pool
2015-03-20 23:40
add tuscan better
2015-03-20 23:41
Valve, have you more things to do first before removing maps? like making your anti cheat system VAC better. Fixing/ehancing the hitbox for better competition? adding 128tickrates server? dunno
2015-03-20 23:43
#249
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
NOBODY LIKES YOUR SHIT TRAIN, VOLVO. Don't break the game more.
2015-03-20 23:44
de_train_ve >>> train_valve why not de_season ???
2015-03-20 23:44
-Nuke blow one entrance hole in the wall of upper plant. And add more boxes to yard to allow t:s move more safely there. -Train Add CS:S train with some tweaks. Not this COD map with random offices and shit. Problem solved.
2015-03-20 23:44
#252
NAF | 
Canada ozboz 
No! Bad Volvo! I like de_puke it's one of the most fun maps to play. Why does it being heavily CT sided matter when you play on both sides evenly? What map are NA teams supposed to have a chance against EU teams on now?
2015-03-20 23:44
replacing one heavy ct side map with another ct side heavy map, smart as fuck
2015-03-20 23:48
#258
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Sweden klvmeister 
old train > nuke > new train...
2015-03-20 23:48
Give us Tuscan and Nuke and take season or cobblestone out !
2015-03-20 23:51
1. Bring back hall to toxic room door on B, just from secret room where is the small hole to vents. 2. Wider ramp hall for T. 3. Better hut entrance for T. 4. Instead of stairs in secret do a ladder so CT can't peak&hide and T can just jump into but of course do a wall so CT can't spam T's in air.
2015-03-20 23:56
#265
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Germany 'ezpz 
In CS:S train was one of my favorite maps, but this new train looks like casual shit.
2015-03-20 23:57
and shitty maps like cbble and overpass is still there... *facepalm*
2015-03-20 23:59
#270
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Finland jayss 
What exactly makes them shitty? The most important thing about a map is that it's balanced, which both overpass and cbble are now.
2015-03-21 00:02
nteresting take to me it's most important that they have a unique gameplay element (valve also wants diversity, but texture diversity not gameplay diversity sadly...) but all the "balanced" maps play out the same really, if your good at one your good at all
2015-03-21 00:58
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL CALL OF DUTY M0DE
2015-03-21 00:02
Finally! de_joke or de_knifewinner is/was so boring. CT sided is an understatement. See the opening match between Titan and nV in cobble @ katowice. Very fun to watch. de_train can be interesting. Well, anything but tired old nuke.
2015-03-21 00:03
we dont want cod maps please
2015-03-21 00:03
Valve set to replace brain with ass
2015-03-21 00:05
wow, nice. Nuke is a very bad map, full ct map
2015-03-21 00:05
Remove overpass instead nuke ffs
2015-03-21 00:05
like pros would give a damn fuck about Active Duty map pool
2015-03-21 00:08
-train -overpass -cbble -valve employee(s) behind this decision
2015-03-21 00:08
#280
flusha | 
Netherlands davin 
volvo is retarded nobody cried about this shit @ source or 1.6
2015-03-21 00:08
FUCK YES!! NUKE WORST MAP EVER
2015-03-21 00:09
good for NAVI
2015-03-21 00:10
RIP CS GO
2015-03-21 00:11
wtf !!! -overpass +train
2015-03-21 00:11
FUCK YOU VALVE DON T TOUCH MY NUKE MF
2015-03-21 00:12
nuke fix? i.imgur.com/3tNldZw.jpg Red things are doors/entrances/holes whatever.
2015-03-21 00:12
#292
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France Sheld 
nice
2015-03-21 00:18
that's nice
2015-03-21 02:27
thank you, need to get this to somewhere. couple more entrances on to bomb plants on de_nuke would change everything imo.
2015-03-21 02:32
Then there's 5 entrances to A? :\
2015-03-21 15:26
kinda yeah. Well that main entrance is actually like two. But even just one new entrance would make difference i think.
2015-03-21 19:25
rofl just deleted my comment that said "-train -overpass -cbble and -valve employee(s) who a pproved this." Are you getting a kick back from Valve? If not then how can someone such as a game developer trust this site as a reliable source of information when people are pissed?
2015-03-21 00:16
-pissed and you're manipulating the event
2015-03-21 00:23
#291
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France Sheld 
finally !!
2015-03-21 00:17
they are just to lazy to fix csgo sound so they remove map with 2 floors instead.
2015-03-21 00:22
-overpass +train nuke is perfect balanced :/ why nerf?
2015-03-21 00:22
#297
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United States Zombiebait23 
Volvo wtf are you doing?! Keep Nuke, its an awesome map. Train is garbage, yes even new train is garbage. We would rather see Tuscan about 1,000,000 times more than train.
2015-03-21 00:22
+++++++++++++++++++
2015-03-21 00:23
#300
Europe npH 
does it mean nuke wont be on MM maps ?
2015-03-21 00:23
#354
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United States Zombiebait23 
Nah it will still be an mm map like train is an mm map right now. It'll be a lot less popular. That matters a lot for US because it is the 3rd or 4th most played map over here.
2015-03-21 01:07
#355
Europe npH 
what does it mean, like im gonna wait for few minutes more before match starts ? doesnt matter ...
2015-03-21 01:09
#364
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United States Zombiebait23 
It more affects those who play in CEVO, ESEA, and FACEIT leagues because nuke will be taken out of rotation.
2015-03-21 01:17
it will still available for MM games, and i think it won't change the maps poll -cbble +train make it so nuke is so unique
2015-03-21 01:18
april prank detected
2015-03-21 00:24
and all pros will tell they like the new map, even tho it's obvious they don't (hint: cbble)
2015-03-21 00:29
I'd be glad if previous version of train was in majors map-pool
2015-03-21 00:29
how's this hinting? they flat out said they were.
2015-03-21 00:30
NOT NUKE OMG.
2015-03-21 00:30
FINALLY THEY REPLACE DE_NUKE -> DE_TRAIN ! THANK YOU!
2015-03-21 00:33
#309
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Serbia Suckleus 
change.org/p/valve-keep-nuke-do-not-repl.. Cmon guys, nuke needs your help
2015-03-21 00:34
#310
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Spain zevo 
nooooooooooooooooooooo
2015-03-21 00:34
Nuke is such a great map. Kinda of unique tactically. Just widen the Hut A entrance and some other tweaks and it won't be so CT sided when proper teams are playing it.
2015-03-21 00:36
fokin stupid man
2015-03-21 00:37
Keep nuke , -cobble +train +tuscan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015-03-21 00:39
If they do this I will uninstall CS, allmost did it when they ruined train.
2015-03-21 00:40
I like map train this is good
2015-03-21 00:40
Bring us tuscan instead of cobblestone and bring back old train.
2015-03-21 00:41
+1337
2015-03-21 00:42
WTF MAN, WTF IS THIS? NUKE IS A BAD ASS OLD MAP OF THE HISTORY OF COUNTER STRIKE. JUSt ADD TUSCAN AND BRING BACK THE OLD TRAIN
2015-03-21 00:42
+111
2015-03-21 00:44
Volvo pls
2015-03-21 00:43
fucking vulvo
2015-03-21 00:44
funny how noone addresses the teams' fault to take rounds on nuke T side its because csgo has become so dumb strategically that teams are overchallenged on nuke and this reminds me of train: first remove from active duty group, then rework aka kill the map [*] nuke
2015-03-21 00:45
-cobble + train, -overpass+ season is this so fucking hard valve????
2015-03-21 00:50
overpass is way better than season
2015-03-21 01:01
finally they are going to change nuke. boring map with shitty t-side
2015-03-21 00:51
did valve just kill nuke?
2015-03-21 00:51
I guess so, and I think they're going to revamp nuke as they did with this FUCKING HORIBLE MAP CALLED TRAIN, bring that old pain train, cause that was more playable
2015-03-21 01:16
Should have a rotation, that replaces 80% of the maps. And well atleast ppl can come up new good tactics :)
2015-03-21 00:52
we need tuscan
2015-03-21 00:52
#332
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Portugal dracø 
New train is pure shit and nuke was fine, NiP vs TSM game in katowice proves it. The mindset that you can't comeback is what fucks it up and it's exclusively the team's fault. Oh well, fnatic send it's regard since all the other top 5 teams had nuke as one of their strongest maps.
2015-03-21 00:52
anyone saying (Brutes) tuscan should be added obviously hasn't played it in a match. The map is extremely cluttered with a million different pockets to hide in. Invisible walls/locked skyboxes so you can't cut off portions of a site as you do in every other csgo map makes it extremely difficult on T side. 1.6 tuscan was a great map, and one of my favorites.. but Brute's current rendition of tuscan is not competitively viable.
2015-03-21 00:55
yeah too much stuff on the walls where you can get stuck on when you sneak back to the wall
2015-03-21 01:00
yup. also blocks nades from bouncing off cleanly sometimes too, which is extremely irritating
2015-03-21 02:34
CS:GO wouldn't even exist without maps like nuke and the other main maps... Its been ct sided for 15 years.. All you shitty new kids gtfo and quit bitching and this shit wouldn't happen.
2015-03-21 00:56
+eternity
2015-03-21 00:59
if they would just make a vote for new maps...
2015-03-21 00:57
rip fps
2015-03-21 01:00
replace cobblestone with train
2015-03-21 01:00
fuckin shit man!!! atleast give us tuscan missed that map so much
2015-03-21 01:01
OLD TRAIN please
2015-03-21 01:01
Please dont put that Team Fortress map for fucks sake
2015-03-21 01:03
128 TICK RATE PLEASE AND MORE SERVERS IN Portugal AND Spain
2015-03-21 01:07
Just fix the hitreg already
2015-03-21 01:09
Ok so they wish competitive map pool to be the same as tournaments but still no 1:45 round timer and 35 sec bomb timer?
2015-03-21 01:10
Idiots... csgo devs = bullshit.
2015-03-21 01:12
Now they're killing csgo this train is so fucking unplayable i bet that it'll be more ct sided than nuke you bastards should remove that shitty cbble than nuke
2015-03-21 01:14
Agree
2015-03-21 01:32
#391
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Ukraine fallenaxe 
+
2015-03-21 01:50
#361
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Brazil Master4tw 
remove dust2, inferno and mirage too. thanks volverino
2015-03-21 01:14
WHY NOT FIX THE FUCKING MAP YOU MONEY GRABBING CUNTS
2015-03-21 01:16
wrong time, wrong place :<
2015-03-21 01:23
The remake of train is shit!
2015-03-21 01:24
de_train_ve PLEASE... :'(
2015-03-21 01:34
Train is SHIT SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
2015-03-21 01:35
#375
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
Why not ban cbble/overpass and +tuscan.
2015-03-21 01:36
#376
Straka | 
Argentina straka 
Please tell me this is bs, dont ruin csgo plz
2015-03-21 01:36
#378
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Thailand spna 
RiP NiP
2015-03-21 01:39
next will be dust2 to some public map , then inferno and etc.
2015-03-21 01:41
#385
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Finland Jonzu95 
No.
2015-03-21 01:44
wtf.....
2015-03-21 01:50
#394
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
FUCK OFF VALVE ADD TUSCAN CUNTS
2015-03-21 01:52
So great news! I can´t stand Nuke, it is a really bad map to have in the pro scene, and I really enjoy Train. With a few tweaks Train can become a really great map again. The only reason so many don´t like it is because they are not used to seeing this Train, but to be honest, this Train fixed all the problems of the old train, most people would agree with that when they think a little bit about it.
2015-03-21 01:54
Fuck that, swap out cbble for tuscan!
2015-03-21 01:56
#397
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
Get fucking Tuscan back on track like people says yeah! And tweak Nuke & Train together while ur moving cobble. ez Train should be like how the CSPROMOD TRAIN is, it's awesome looking, real 1.6 feelin.
2015-03-21 01:58
the new train is so bad.. and they force ppl to play great job valve listen to the silvers it will make the game better! keep it up
2015-03-21 01:59
#400
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
New train sucks balls, indeed.
2015-03-21 02:01
they really need to hire ppl like volcano or something. valve are terrible at making/remaking maps
2015-03-21 02:03
#403
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
yeah, i want train to be silky and smooth like this cspromod.com/images/media/screenshots/cs.. Indeed they suck hard at it :p
2015-03-21 02:05
i want every map to be clean to but they wont do that cuz then potato pcs can run it and they dont want that :)
2015-03-21 02:07
and imo they shouldnt touch classic maps if they wanna change something it should be overpass/cbble
2015-03-21 02:12
#416
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
ye and if they gonna change something some maps could need a tweak run for sure, and a good one. it's just a matter of "when" that will happen i guess..
2015-03-21 02:25
THIS IS BIG BIG SHITTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!
2015-03-21 01:59
About time.. Nuke is honestly the worst map in the map pool, and always has been.
2015-03-21 02:04
WOT... <3 NUKE <3 FOREVER <3 volvo pls
2015-03-21 02:09
that's like replacing a faulty battery with another faulty battery
2015-03-21 02:09
wow, im happy but i am also not happy
2015-03-21 02:16
why not season!? omg!!!
2015-03-21 02:17
The new train is more like playing Team Fortress . Replacing nuke with train should be a good tactic but not with train of those days it sucks . The old Train should be ok . Nuke is 80 % CT sided map and is a map when you need to take 3 round and the ct pistols and is an easy win.
2015-03-21 02:23
nuke is at least fun to watch
2015-03-21 02:24
Fucking retarded move.
2015-03-21 02:27
#420
NEO | 
Poland Aargaroth 
RIP OLD MAPS [*]
2015-03-21 02:29
this is fucking bs. they remove one of the most interesting map to watch (even though its heavily ct sided obviously) and they put a fucking garbage map instead. gg wp volvo, looks like you don't care about the game.
2015-03-21 02:31
Season probably would have been a better choice.
2015-03-21 02:31
plz no
2015-03-21 02:40
The real problem is not them replacing the map , but that the de_train is not even optimized
2015-03-21 02:34
#426
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Vietnam yolesnoobs 
WHY DO THEY KEEP FORCING COBBLE DOWN OUR THROATS
2015-03-21 02:35
cobble is actually pretty decent right now though
2015-03-21 02:49
It's really not.
2015-03-21 02:56
It's never been decent. Not in old CS, source or GO. It's like the devs idea of a dank meme.
2015-03-21 05:08
I want old de_train, Volvo ='/
2015-03-21 03:03
Good ideo imo, train has a lot of potential and while train is beeing played, they can try to fix nuke again.
2015-03-21 03:23
That's what you guys get for asking them to "remake de_nuke because it's too CT sided" pathetic clowns, now deal with it.
2015-03-21 03:25
fuck you valve
2015-03-21 03:29
#444
kNgV- | 
Japan kayenji 
thanks valve
2015-03-21 03:31
bad decision. keep nuke best map.
2015-03-21 03:35
just make som changed on nuke like : remove upper vents so ct's cant rotate that fast from A to B, but keep lower vents and you re-create a total new atmosphere at de_nuke and de_train should be changed to 1.6 version and less details and shit more like a forge,season,cache look a like map
2015-03-21 03:37
Gg nip Wp Tsm
2015-03-21 03:38
WTF??? volvo plz
2015-03-21 03:58
#451
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Portugal zlynx 
-nuke +de_rats_1337
2015-03-21 03:59
would rather see season replacing nuke at tournaments.
2015-03-21 04:03
#454
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Sweden Hampzuka 
Retard move...
2015-03-21 04:05
#455
Dosia | 
Russia cann0n 
hell no Leave nuke plz ! wtf volvo !!! just make a good anti-cheat client for mM ... idiots
2015-03-21 04:05
Heres an idea valve make some fucking good new maps yourselves. I dont know if you have this figured out yet but no one likes the shitty hostage workshop maps.
2015-03-21 04:10
why is cobble still in there? nuke is a great map
2015-03-21 04:16
Imagine kennyS in 1.6 de_train, they should do it.
2015-03-21 04:16
i like but i don't like
2015-03-21 04:17
Valve please take the communities consideration in more: -Cobble +Season +Tuscan +Train (pre Vanguard update) -Nuke Make CZ have less of a time to pull out of your pants Make Tec-9 less accurate
2015-03-21 04:32
Less fire rate for tec9 because less accurate won't change much you can still spam it with scroll..
2015-03-21 04:42
csgo is so bad, it made nuke unenjoyable (is that a real word?) [*]
2015-03-21 04:36
Tuscan please
2015-03-21 04:40
removing nuke, who was always been there in competitive play and let cbblestone stay in, who is pure trash, shows how little knowledge valve got for the serious gamers. these changes are purely made for casual shit.
2015-03-21 04:46
#469
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Russia fleg 
replace COBBLE STUPID VOLVO GABEBOYZ nuke is best map ever
2015-03-21 04:50
wtf??? some of the best matches at the last major were on nuke. valve needs to stop fucking up the pro scene with this bs
2015-03-21 04:53
so many shit maps in the pool now. inferno,cobble,overpass,train(new) wtf are you doing valve?
2015-03-21 05:07
Is CSGO one of the top competitive game with the worst developer ???
2015-03-21 05:25
New train is shit. Wtf volvo? Where is de_tuscan?
2015-03-21 05:47
idiots
2015-03-21 05:53
might aswell replace dust 2 with dust 1
2015-03-21 05:56
WHAT???? Fix NUKE, dont remove!
2015-03-21 06:05
Why can't they just put train in the active duty group and leave nuke there as well? Such bullshit...
2015-03-21 06:05
#484
REAL | 
Norway duffz00r 
fuck both maps, tweak em' VALVE..like Promod style ish, that's a win...jeez
2015-03-21 06:06
fuck you valve. nuke is good tran is shitty
2015-03-21 06:09
#488
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Taiwan SCVready 
Why dont valve just add train and keep nuke in the map pool? I don't get it
2015-03-21 06:11
good move!
2015-03-21 06:12
R.I.P Nuke and TSM
2015-03-21 06:24
RIP NUKE ,I loved you. <3
2015-03-21 06:36
if i had to chose between d2 or nuke to be removed, it would be d2.
2015-03-21 06:40
#497
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United States MadCl0wN 
+1
2015-03-21 07:03
+1
2015-03-21 07:13
+1
2015-03-21 19:33
now there is 3 shitmaps in the map pool
2015-03-21 07:02
#496
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United States MadCl0wN 
can valve just remove the map groups bullshit and let them all free like before...
2015-03-21 07:03
Nuke is my most favorite map in mm seriously ..and I guess people play it too much in mm too ,its not like dumb dust 2 ,just rush and hit shots . ...it requires a calm team play but now Volvo ...how funny that valve is taking decisions after looking at minority's opinions who just can't play on nuke since it requires so much mind power to comeback after starting ct side (2nd half).But the people who want it to be removed are the ones who give up after ending first half on it as t by 13-2 ,12-3 ( or so ) and then blame the map .. Nuke is a lot better than train at least ..
2015-03-21 07:12
volvo pls -.-
2015-03-21 07:24
when will appear the new opperation?
2015-03-21 07:25
So I hope next operation they fixed the hitbox shit as well. If not Csgo devs just replace that shit and hitbox not fixed. If so next major with train we see allu missing again due to hitbox.
2015-03-21 07:26
WHY ??? OMFG
2015-03-21 07:28
new train is dogshit. train_ve best
2015-03-21 07:28
YEAHHH :D train :)
2015-03-21 07:30
wtf who asked them to replace nuke with bullshit train? do valve actually ever ask community for advice? they can ho fuck them self with train
2015-03-21 07:38
i asked
2015-03-21 07:57
ok
2015-03-21 07:58
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetai.. de_train_ve or no train...
2015-03-21 07:49
go de_aztec
2015-03-21 07:57
vertigo>aztec>dust1>poolday>awp_india>new train srsly, wtf valve?
2015-03-21 08:01
Fnatic will be the most happy team out there :D
2015-03-21 08:02
#556
FalleN | 
World MangQo 
Na`Vi even more
2015-03-21 10:06
Yeah TBH I am in this favour,cuz i just cant move so much up and down on Nuke xD
2015-03-21 10:23
Train is shit!
2015-03-21 08:06
FUCK OFF! I was so glad Train was removed in the first place and the new Train is even more shit
2015-03-21 08:09
Nice, I hate when people vote nuke everytime
2015-03-21 08:31
ty volvo
2015-03-21 08:42
#528
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Europe porrasm 
Take away Aztec and add Train. Problem solved.
2015-03-21 08:42
keep nuke add tuscan change train by de_train_ve by volcano
2015-03-21 08:44
just light a candle everyone for nuke..
2015-03-21 08:51
Can't they just fucking add it alongside the Active Duty Map list than fucking replacing it? Nuke's my fav map and if it disappears, by god I'm gonna quit CS:GO (for 1 week then come back because I love the game regardless)
2015-03-21 08:51
expected
2015-03-21 08:53
Nuke> train nuff said
2015-03-21 08:58
nuke revamp inc [*]
2015-03-21 09:00
#536
Zeus | 
Ukraine byGOuSt 
Even new Train batter than Nuke! Love this map! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! The Train is back!!!
2015-03-21 09:04
#537
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Finland Jiksu 
I rather play nuke than revamped train. Nuke revamp pls and ditch train.
2015-03-21 09:09
#538
shox | 
Lithuania despotz 
lol. this new train is pile of shit. old one was 1000000000000000000000000000 times better
2015-03-21 09:14
bullshit! nuke is great, train is terrible :(
2015-03-21 09:23
Stupid valve silvers players decision... fuck u ... fuck csgo
2015-03-21 09:29
If they added old train then that would be ok. But they will add this new unplayable shit. Gj Valve!
2015-03-21 09:35
ye valve destroy old classic amazing maps like old train and now nuke , fu ck this game atm !
2015-03-21 09:37
#543
fer | 
Austria neodan 
why replace can they not add train and remove nothing
2015-03-21 09:39
#544
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World LeviathaNz 
They should consider the train version of Volcano, and do a mix of their map and his map. His map lacks polish but the actual train map lacks more in depth thinking, there are too stacked parts and useless shit, some places are just too wide... Well, I don't think they will read this but still hoping :P
2015-03-21 09:39
De train sucks!
2015-03-21 09:43
Ok, people like the new train, but replace nuke? Bump that, why not replace Cobblestone? I rather play nuke, and fight my way in as a T than play Cobble.
2015-03-21 09:44
Volvo give us tuscan.Your train is shit!!!
2015-03-21 09:48
#549
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Poland metal_cs 
i can traqde nuke for 128 tick server otherwise no way ! NUKE>TRAIN or better - cobble + train
2015-03-21 09:51
mm hero spotted
2015-03-21 10:12
#611
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Poland metal_cs 
nothing wrong play mm?
2015-03-21 12:25
Don't forget that April 1st is coming.
2015-03-21 09:53
One of the best matches was on train =) Complexity vs NiP @ Katowice 2014 bo3 last map on train... i was almost crying :D
2015-03-21 09:58
#553
f0rest | 
Denmark d0ng 
This has got to be a joke.
2015-03-21 10:00
any map is better than nuke, worst map in csgo
2015-03-21 10:05
#573
KRIMZ | 
Germany Mortak 
its not worst but its a wa to onesided map which isnt that great.. i mean 2/3 games from katowice had a 13:2 halftime score o.O
2015-03-21 10:38
wow at least train doesnt suck.. oh wait it does
2015-03-21 10:06
Finally <3
2015-03-21 10:08
R.I.P [*]
2015-03-21 10:09
N1
2015-03-21 10:10
Probably a revamp on the way. They did the same to Train earlier so...
2015-03-21 10:22
#567
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Greece hekzy 
BRING IN OLD SEASON MODAFUCKAS
2015-03-21 10:24
no more nuke YAYYYYYYY!!!!
2015-03-21 10:33
#572
ANGE1 | 
Russia monte:) 
-cbble +train -overpass +tuscan
2015-03-21 10:37
De_cpl_mill, pls <3 <3 and the new Train is much better than playing Nuke. now ppl has a chance of winning on both sides.
2015-03-21 10:53
Na`Vi are so happy right now.
2015-03-21 10:54
Now just need - cobble + tuscan
2015-03-21 10:55
de_train should be in mappool, good but -nuke? better remove coble
2015-03-21 11:00
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz +train +season -cbble
2015-03-21 11:02
-cbble +train fuck valve
2015-03-21 11:11
I love nuke......
2015-03-21 11:15
NaVi, Fnatic, EnvyUs are happy right now.
2015-03-21 11:15
nuke is shit map, gj volvo BUT WHERE IS TUSCAN?
2015-03-21 11:16
valve's logic ez solutions ez life ez money.
2015-03-21 11:17
#589
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Poland Mannix 
on one hand this is my favourite map on the other we can hope that they will remake it to be less ct sided
2015-03-21 11:18
How many of the pro's actually suggested that to the csgo dev? I am more interested in that.
2015-03-21 11:27
In my opinion new train is more out from the balance perspective than nuke.
2015-03-21 11:45
Stupid idea.. Nuke is one of the best map. Better add tuscan.
2015-03-21 11:50
Or add train and tuscan. Then will be 9 map, so good to vote.
2015-03-21 11:53
replacing the most tactic map for the shity new version of train (a yard with a few trains) gg volvo
2015-03-21 11:57
finaly
2015-03-21 12:04
You cry about nuke then you cry about it being updated.+ New train is comming.
2015-03-21 12:06
Nice, like to see something new in the scene. But map what should have replaced is cobble instead of nuke :)
2015-03-21 12:09
new train is so bad i dont even... ah those ugly unimportant buildings that just catches your attention and that mid is stupid but whatever
2015-03-21 12:10
RIOT !
2015-03-21 12:13
Yeah, keep cobble and remove nuke.. Are you trying to get less players?
2015-03-21 12:15
#605
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Spain akproxx 
finally :D
2015-03-21 12:16
This is how you do it.. replace bad with good! But.. next step improve train! And Replace overpass with season!
2015-03-21 12:17
just no!
2015-03-21 12:17
#608
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Lithuania Undercover_ 
VOLVO DON'T YOU DARE !!!
2015-03-21 12:21
lol
2015-03-21 12:23
+seaside -cbble dont take out nuke
2015-03-21 12:26
+ season pls it's an awesome map
2015-03-21 12:33
oh look another dumb decision by csgo_devs
2015-03-21 12:38
omg dont do it train 5 fps map nuke 4 life
2015-03-21 12:48
add tuscan
2015-03-21 12:49
If you are going to make ANY changes then add de_tuscan. And if you are going to add train then bring back the OLD de_train. The new one doesn't look good and isn't well made either.
2015-03-21 12:49
please no
2015-03-21 13:11
KURWA MAC NUKE STAY OR RIOT
2015-03-21 13:11
The worst idea ever ...
2015-03-21 13:21
the new train map sucks balls so deep even dolce and gabbana asked to sponsor it
2015-03-21 13:28
Why wouldn't they just take cobble out for train everyone hates cobble.
2015-03-21 13:28
just copy the 1.6 train map in go and it's fine, is it so hard? -.-
2015-03-21 13:28
I liked nuke but the map imo was very CT sided I hope they will return the old train design
2015-03-21 13:33
Finally trainnnnn..but replace like cobble/overpass lol
2015-03-21 13:40
nuke is far better then the train they got now in the game valvo dont play the game.
2015-03-21 13:42
Old Train > New Train Nuke > Old-New Train
2015-03-21 14:06
They want to replace a meh map with the sittiest of the maps.. cool stuff
2015-03-21 14:10
+shittiest
2015-03-21 14:11
not cobblestone but nuke ok after that you should replace awp with bazooka or something like that
2015-03-21 14:18
PLZ NO, nuke is awesome! and this version of train is just crap...
2015-03-21 14:37
OMG. No. Please. Don't. Train is a shithead map for shithead campers.
2015-03-21 14:37
old train plus some remake is what should have been done and no this shit train. but its valve
2015-03-21 15:07
retarded stuff by valve. yes, nuke needs to be tweaked. e.g widen radio corridors, bigger door in the hut and such train at its current state is unplayable, why change a map that is playable to a map that isn't? valve needs to think deep what they are actually doing here. you don't get rid of the problem by hiding it and presenting another problem. nuke is a part of counter strike has always been and should always be.
2015-03-21 15:10
Totally agree, just slowing progress, back to square one. Imagine in 2013 if someone told you that at the start of 2015 the map pool would consist of two unmade maps, and a completely revamped train LOL. Sometimes valve baffles me.
2015-03-21 15:21
#648
shox | 
Germany rakFABI 
good move bring in train tweak it till next major. by then train will be better and then bring back new nuke just like they did with train before
2015-03-21 15:15
-1
2015-03-21 15:20
Just why...
2015-03-21 15:21
Bring Nuke Back, its much funner than shitty Train. its been part of cs forever and is a map that is unique because the Teams needs to teamwork and work together with sick tactics and calm head. removing this removes part of cs. Stop stealing our maps!
2015-03-21 15:21
+1
2015-03-21 20:36
add tuscan cmon i'm waiting since csgo released
2015-03-21 15:36
1.6 literally had little-to-no updates for years, yet no one complained so much like they do now.
2015-03-21 15:42
[*]
2015-03-21 16:13
train_ve is good.
2015-03-21 16:39
no way!
2015-03-21 16:51
#671
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Brazil Nobuga 
yes!
2015-03-21 17:07
I like this. Nuke sucks dick or something and train i havent tried yet but idk n1.
2015-03-21 17:36
Liked this map, but it`s so CT sided, expected...
2015-03-21 17:54
Navi is going to be upset :=\
2015-03-21 17:55
Amazing for Na`Vi.
2015-03-21 18:24
Nuke whyyyyyy
2015-03-21 18:38
Valve, why? this is my fav map!
2015-03-21 19:13
That's interesting, but I am still waiting for tuscan
2015-03-21 19:32
I don't mind the new train. This means that it will get some tweaks and fixes that might make it into a decent map. Removing nuke however, while still keeping a map like Cobblestone in the active duty pool bothers me. Cobblestone has never been a good map, and it never will be. One can only hope that Valve now will be reworking nuke and adding it back in later, just like they did with Train. With a fixed nuke, train, season and a working version of Tuscan there could be rotations in the active duty pool every few months.
2015-03-21 19:47
+1
2015-03-22 02:08
-season + cpl mill
2015-03-21 21:08
C9 just got 6 T rounds on de_nuke versus Orbit. Valve have got their heads completely up their asses.
2015-03-21 21:35
Why are they doing this? Old train was much better and isn't looking like TF2 map.
2015-03-22 00:19
It's just a joke. Go to ban Valve.
2015-03-22 05:44
I'm very glad to hear this.
2015-03-22 06:44
#698
Russia <C> 
It would be better removed Overpass
2015-03-22 07:47
No way, Overpass is a really cool map.
2015-03-22 10:32
+1 Train -1 Nuke
2015-03-22 07:56
suck my dick valve!
2015-03-22 09:53
Why they cant just add train without deleting nuke?
2015-03-22 14:11
Valve made Oczosinko cry :(
2015-03-22 14:13
TRAIN is noob dmg map... <3 taz
2015-03-22 19:28
#716
s1mple | 
Denmark konner 
i like it, but it shoulda been season instead i feel like.... or put both in the mappool.
2015-03-22 20:06
Agree with Bialywow, just add it to the map pool, why do you have to remove Nuke! Nuke is a good map, with loads of boost spots and so on, requires a little bit more brain than other maps.
2015-03-22 20:57
pls volvo no es remove nuke pls add train, remove cbble add season, remove overpass pls volvo
2015-03-23 00:01
#725
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
volvo pls why so dumb???
2015-03-23 15:25
NiP gets nerfed
2015-03-23 21:15
rip c9's only chance on beating tier 1 EU teams
2015-03-24 10:59
Please VALVE wtf keep the maps clean like in 1.6 every were i look in cs go i see garbage, trash, chikens and other useless things. Add the old cs 1.6 train. VALVE CAN YOU HEAR US???
2015-03-24 14:17
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