Cloud9 vs. Liquid statistical preview

Ahead of tomorrow's ESWC quarter-final between Cloud9 and Liquid, we have put together a statistical preview to get you up-to-update on the match-up.

As was the case at ESL ESEA Pro League Season 1 Finals a week ago in Cologne, Cloud9 once again take on a fellow North American team in the playoffs, this time Liquid.

The two sides have played each other on nine maps in just over the past month and Cloud9 hold a narrow 5-4 lead. When looking at full matches the score is tied 3-3.

Liquid warming up

Liquid's very recent record versus Cloud9 is promising 

In each of their wins, the scores have been fairly lopsided. Six of the nine maps have finished with the loser in single digits - and five with them having won four, or less, rounds.

Notably Liquid have now won three straight maps, or two straight games, after Cloud9 started their qualifying maps with four straight wins - three of which were one-sided.

Date Team Score Team Map Event
June 21 United States Cloud9 13-16 United States Liquid de_cache iBP Summer
June 21 United States Cloud9 4-16 United States Liquid de_dust2 iBP Summer
June 19 United States Cloud9 4-16 United States Liquid de_cache FACEIT
June 17 United States Cloud9 16-4 United States Liquid de_dust2 ESL ESEA
June 17 United States Cloud9 12-16 United States Liquid de_overpass FACEIT
June 16 United States Cloud9 16-3 United States Liquid de_overpass CEVO
June 16 United States Cloud9 16-4 United States Liquid de_cache CEVO
June 8 United States Cloud9 16-6 United States Liquid de_dust2 HTC Reborn
June 8 United States Cloud9 16-14 United States Liquid de_overpass HTC Reborn
 
Average: United States Cloud9 12.6-10.6 United States Liquid    

Cloud9 have played Liquid on nine maps since June 8

Though Liquid have seemingly gained ground as of late, it's worth noting that Cloud9 have spent time since in Europe, including the strong showing in Cologne last weekend.

Average score in the nine maps is 12.6 over 10.6, two full rounds in Cloud9's favor - wtih notably the average score for each team fairly low, due to how lopsided each one's wins have been.

Neither team has an undefeated map - they've only played de_cache, de_dust2 and de_overpass in the qualifying maps, with C9 up 2-1 on the two latter ones, and Liquid up 2-1 on the first.

Let's then take a look at the player statistics in the nine maps they've played, combined for both teams, in order to see how each player has performed in this particular match-up.

Player statistics for the nine maps Cloud9 have faced Liquid on since June 8

Unsurprisingly the three best players have been the biggest three stars in these two teams, namely Mike "shroud" Grzesiek, Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski and Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham, in that order.

What is surprising, though, is the fact Liquid's second best performer has been their in-game leader Eric "adreN" Hoag, while the team's second and third wheel have struggled.

Neither Jacob "FugLy" Medina or Nick "nitr0" Cannella have impressed overall in the nine maps versus Cloud9, a clear sign of trouble for a team who needs to be able to match C9 in skill to win.

Next, let's take a look at player statistics from the five maps that Cloud9 have won, to see who have been their most important players when things have gone as planned.

Player statistics in the five maps Cloud9 have won vs. Liquid since June 8

For Cloud9 the only real differences have been Skadoodle taking the reigns from shroud as the team's top dog, while Ryan "freakazoid" Abadir, the entry-fragger, has outdone Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert.

On Liquid's side virtually nothing has changed -- aside from everyone's statistics, as a whole, going down. Which is understandable, given a 6.2 to 16 round differential in the data.

To compare, we have also put together statistics for the four maps Liquid have beaten Cloud9 on in our qualifying data set, with an arbitrary cut-off point, still, at June 8.

Player statistics for Liquid's four map wins over Cloud9 since June 8

On Liquid's side - now on the top of the table - the order, once again, remains unchanged. It's worth noting adreN is clearly better versus Cloud9, than he is overall in his career on average.

For Cloud9 though, the changes are clear. As the round differential is now 16 to 8.3 in Liquid's favor, naturally the statistics take a nosedive for Cloud9 - led by entry fragger freakazoid.

Compared to wins, Skadoodle also played clearly worse -- or Liquid made him less effective. Either way, no matter how you slice the data, these two teams are neck and neck.

The one thing on Cloud9's side is their recent success at ESL ESEA Finals. But one also shouldn't forget Liquid's map wins over Na`Vi and fnatic at Gfinity Spring Masters II.

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all games
 Cloud9 K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiekshroud 176 - 138 +38 - 1.21
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' LathamSkadoodle 150 - 121 +29 - 1.10
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbertn0thing 148 - 137 +11 - 1.02
United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadirfreakazoid 138 - 141 -3 - 0.96
United States Sean 'seang@res' Garesseang@res 125 - 141 -16 - 0.88
 Liquid K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' JablonowskiEliGE 171 - 152 +19 - 1.18
United States Eric 'adreN' HoagadreN 145 - 139 +6 - 1.05
United States Jacob 'FugLy' MedinaFugLy 133 - 149 -16 - 0.92
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannellanitr0 127 - 152 -25 - 0.82
United States Kyle 'flowsicK' MendezflowsicK 102 - 147 -45 - 0.72
c9 wins
 Cloud9 K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' LathamSkadoodle 98 - 49 +49 - 1.41
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiekshroud 96 - 59 +37 - 1.33
United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadirfreakazoid 96 - 64 +32 - 1.27
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbertn0thing 88 - 61 +27 - 1.20
United States Sean 'seang@res' Garesseang@res 71 - 64 +7 - 1.01
 Liquid K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' JablonowskiEliGE 69 - 92 -23 - 0.78
United States Eric 'adreN' HoagadreN 59 - 87 -28 - 0.74
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannellanitr0 63 - 91 -28 - 0.72
United States Jacob 'FugLy' MedinaFugLy 57 - 89 -32 - 0.71
United States Kyle 'flowsicK' MendezflowsicK 49 - 91 -42 - 0.58
liquid wins
 Liquid K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' JablonowskiEliGE 102 - 60 +42 - 1.64
United States Eric 'adreN' HoagadreN 86 - 52 +34 - 1.40
United States Jacob 'FugLy' MedinaFugLy 76 - 60 +16 - 1.17
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannellanitr0 64 - 61 +3 - 0.94
United States Kyle 'flowsicK' MendezflowsicK 53 - 56 -3 - 0.88
 Cloud9 K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiekshroud 80 - 79 +1 - 1.06
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbertn0thing 60 - 76 -16 - 0.81
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' LathamSkadoodle 52 - 72 -20 - 0.74
United States Sean 'seang@res' Garesseang@res 54 - 77 -23 - 0.73
United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadirfreakazoid 42 - 77 -35 - 0.61
United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
789
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1047
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1182
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1207
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
600
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
United States Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1043
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
813
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
676
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
#3
United States enrgy 
n1
2015-07-11 03:22
I really like this lurppis, nw
2015-07-11 03:23
C9 gunna whoop deez little bois
2015-07-11 03:24
Ez cloud9
2015-07-11 03:25
#9
NEO | 
Poland camarpl 
Grzesiek vs Jablonowski I don't know who to cheer for :c
2015-07-11 03:26
I'm sad this match up happened. I would've like two NA teams facing EU teams.
2015-07-11 03:26
Liquid vs EU teams?why would you want to watch that? Atleast liquid will look good now.
2015-07-11 03:28
liquid won a map vs fnatic and navi once i believe
2015-07-11 03:33
and 16-2 rest of the times,shit happens man, EU teams dont take anyone apart from C9 seriously..a
2015-07-11 03:39
Cloud9 will win 2-1, and I'm a Liquid fan.
2015-07-11 03:27
#18
 | 
United States Cheesegoose 
no, you're a s1mple fan
2015-07-11 03:38
2-0 lol
2015-07-11 03:44
rip semis viewership
2015-07-11 03:28
ez virtus pro
2015-07-11 03:35
shroud carry > elige carry
2015-07-11 03:36
Shroudoodle carry> Elige carry 2 is better than 1
2015-07-11 04:44
is that the taylor swift song
2015-07-11 10:38
shroudy gettin' rowdy
2015-07-11 03:38
I believe in liquid. Their last 3 wins against c9 weren't flukes.
2015-07-11 03:38
Staying true to your username I see.
2015-07-11 05:19
Cloud9 has improved a shit ton since their last 3 wins though... Cloud9 will have no problem winning this series.
2015-07-11 05:51
#22
United Kingdom myzz 
Best 2 NA riflers from both teams...both polish
2015-07-11 03:43
to be expected from NA's 1st and 2nd best teams but still c9 should win this (i can see liquid winning this but i just dont see them beating navi,nip, or nV)
2015-07-11 03:44
Elige upcoming top tier player. C9 too good though.
2015-07-11 03:45
Lurrpis is the god of stats. Gonna be a great domestic matchup, kinda like envy vs titan on a smaller level. I still say c9 win but 2-1 not 2-0, clearly liquid have proved to be a good matchup against c9.
2015-07-11 04:05
Shroud had to switch from 1920x1080 to 1280x780... How much of an impact does that have at the top level in CSGO?
2015-07-11 04:07
idk, but he looked like he struggled a bit more than usual. But maybe he'll get use to it by the time the match starts
2015-07-11 05:12
why is that?
2015-07-11 11:05
shit comps
2015-07-11 11:52
#28
Dosia | 
Russia cann0n 
2-1 C9
2015-07-11 04:36
-sean +fer :D
2015-07-11 05:01
Cloud9 should win 2-0. Liquid needs to get rid of flowsick. They should've kept NAF-FLY. I have no idea what Liquid was thinking...
2015-07-11 05:50
Honestly Flowsick is better for the team. May not be shown in the statistics but his one of those guys that arn't a impact player (like Fugly) but more a reactive player he reacts to the players around him. The reason fugly left is because the team didn't feel like he had the drive to win. I. It will either be 2.1 if c9 wins or 2-0 if liquid. either way I'm going for liquid.
2015-07-11 07:32
Exactly. No one expects Flowsick to frag like NAF did/can, but with Flowsick Liquid actually plays like a team. And even though NAF will outfrag Flowsick 9/10 games, Liquid are a much better team overall with Flowsick. Is Flowsick a long term answer for Liquid? No, but he's better for the team than NAF currently.
2015-07-11 08:29
gogo c9
2015-07-11 05:59
#36
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Vietnam yolesnoobs 
C9 are on fire atm I don't think Liquid can do too much damage.
2015-07-11 07:02
GL Liquid, rooting for you!
2015-07-11 07:12
c9 best NA
2015-07-11 08:12
scream the best go scream
2015-07-11 08:16
lets go liquid!!
2015-07-11 08:25
keep doing these, lurppis. They're always interesting to read
2015-07-11 08:26
+1
2015-07-11 13:45
guess elige loves destroying c9
2015-07-11 08:56
I will surely put a low bet on liquid, those odds are ridiculous imo. I don't care in which shape both teams are, liquid can upset c9 anyday.
2015-07-11 10:35
and they say badreN BOT adreN - adreN
2015-07-11 10:36
COME ON CLOUD9, SMASH THEM!!!
2015-07-11 10:41
ez c9
2015-07-11 10:54
it's worth noting that Cloud9
2015-07-11 11:18
c9 ez
2015-07-11 11:20
c9 vs envy in semifinals incoming *grabbing popcorn*
2015-07-11 12:24
If elige gets even half the kills he does online against c9, I will be surprised.
2015-07-11 13:54
I'd be surprised if adreN frags as well as online.
2015-07-11 14:06
wtf Elige is a beast, he´s allways topfrager
2015-07-11 14:55
so summary: flowsick is shit
2015-07-11 15:15
69 gogo !
2015-07-11 15:59
Yo, I cant post my own thing yet. I was wondering if someone could help me out with a demo. the other day i watched a demo and it had team voice chat. Im wondering if I can watch a demo from the C9 vs Fnatic final from last weekend with C9 voice chat. halp
2015-07-12 12:59
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