EnVyUs set for double swoop

EnVyUs have reached an agreement in principle to sign Kenny "kennyS" Schrub and Dan "apEX" Madesclaire, according to a report by Vakarm.net.

The French giants are on the brink of undergoing roster changes as they look to breathe new life into their team ahead of ESL One Cologne, the next $250,000 Valve-sponsored tournament.

Despite lifting a number of trophies since the start of the year, EnVyUs have been a far cry from the side that won DreamHack Winter 2014, and the lacklustre performances at ESL One Katowice and the ESL ESEA Pro League finals - the two biggest events of the year so far -  have prompted the North America-based organisation to take action.

According to a report from vakarm.net, which cites sources close to the team, Richard "shox" Papillon and Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux will be shown the exit door following work ethic issues and a lack of commitment on the part of the duo.

Last week, HLTV.org revealed that EnVyUs had indulged in a late-night drinking session just before the crunch ESL ESEA Pro League finals match against Cloud9, which they would end up losing 0-2. A source close to the team has guaranteed to Vakarm.net that the majority of the roster, and not just one specific player, often used to go out drinking during events.


kennyS and apEx could join EnVyUs soon 

To replace the duo, EnVyUs will raid the team's domestic rivals for arguably their biggest star, Kenny "kennyS" Schrub, and Dan "apEX" Madesclaire. Both players have reportedly agreed a deal in principle with the North American organisation, which remains locked in talks with Titan over a transfer.

And if EnVyUs are in no hurry to finalise the transfer, since their main worry is ESL One Cologne, which is one month away, the same cannot be said about Titan, who will attend the offline qualifier for the upcoming major next week already.

Earlier on Tuesday, EnVyUs withdrew from the FACEIT League 2015 finals, in Valencia, where Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt, Fabien "kioShiMa" Fiey and Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer were waiting for news about the state of negotiations between the two organisations. It is believed that the French team are also considering pulling out of the CEVO Finals, scheduled for next week.

In case the two organisations strike a deal soon, then Titan will consider replacing the departing duo with none other than shox and SmithZz, vakarm.net claims. Nothing has been set in stone yet, and the next few days will certainly bring more news about France's two strongest teams.

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1654
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1161
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1452
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1580
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1535
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1284
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
1597
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.11
hype
2015-07-15 01:26
DOGLAN
2015-07-15 01:26
#8
Australia glib 
expected
2015-07-15 01:26
Best team would be Shox, KennyS, Smithz, Kioshima and Happy
2015-07-15 01:26
except that smithzz is useless
2015-07-15 01:28
shox doesnt leave his girlfriend smithzz so he will be everywhere with shox
2015-07-15 01:33
and kennys doesnt leave apex. And shox can't play with ex6tenz. Will we see three french line-ups like before with titan, mystik and ldlc again? There has really only been two good ones for a long time now.
2015-07-15 01:55
Translation of the kennyS statement : "I don't know where to begin, first I'd like to thank GMX who definitely didn't deserve that highquality ass fucking, also thank to him who woke me up this morning telling me that news. I'm only half surprised about that news because I know the players from the team. Danny (apex) after 2 tries finally reaches his goals, the most hypocritical and opportunistic player in the scene has what he wanted : A salary. However I'm extremely disappointed by my former team mates, especially Maniac. Indeed, under his reliable and smarter looks he forgot to tell us he was going the opposite way. I remember the words (from apex) which were mines after DH WINTER, a lan where apex completely fail. He came to Maniac and me and asked us to kick the "noob" (yeah that's how apex was calling uzzzi 2 weaks ago), we obviously refused with maniac because it was unthinkable to change anything before the IEM. Well looks like I was the only honest person at the end... I'm not mad at uzzzi, the man has no personality and is easily influenced, same goes for Happy (cause he is a leader), $$$$ was too strong this time. I wish team LDLC good luck though, use our slot well for the EMS ONE. Thank for everyone's support, I really didn't deserve it this time I swear :D ! A little thought for every other victims of apex "
2015-07-15 02:24
nt ex6
2015-07-15 09:21
when shox was on epsilon they "contended"
2015-07-15 03:25
who are you talking about now?
2015-07-15 03:33
#37
FalleN | 
Brazil Lk1Ng 
seriously? kennys and smithz?
2015-07-15 01:28
-Smithz +Apex/NBK
2015-07-15 01:29
2015-07-16 16:24
#63
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Denmark Almoe 
smithz LOL
2015-07-15 01:33
The reason I put smithz was cuz shox wouldnt play without him bro not cause he's good. I would rather have apex in that team.
2015-07-15 18:11
#633
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Denmark Almoe 
+1
2015-07-15 18:37
xpeked
2015-07-15 01:26
kennys gettin paid a mans salary now boys
2015-07-15 01:26
#13
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Europe loonek4 
n1
2015-07-15 01:27
shox > kennyS and apex L0L rip envy expected
2015-07-15 01:27
shox in form good apex in form > rest but i hope apex will find best form now with normal teammates not idiots from like ex5 rpk maniac :D
2015-07-15 01:54
my friend. every team apex and kennys was shitty. even in css. even when kennys was on fire. having dedicated awper isnt that good. maybe when u are playing awp like guardian. im not saying about skills but playstyle
2015-07-15 02:07
lets see in future how it works :D
2015-07-15 03:08
hype!
2015-07-15 01:27
w0w
2015-07-15 01:27
FINALY !!!
2015-07-15 01:27
it's happening BOIS. France top 1 again
2015-07-15 01:27
#41
Spain SR4 
Keepo
2015-07-15 01:29
#182
ZywOo | 
France Foryon 
Kappa
2015-07-15 02:05
KappaHD MiniK
2015-07-15 02:06
LOL
2015-07-15 01:27
#21
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Poland tentego 
bad changes, should be only -smithzz +kennys IMO
2015-07-15 01:27
+1
2015-07-15 01:31
shox and smithz need to play together or so people have said. So you really cannot keep shox and they probably want to get rid of smithz because he is the most useless person on either French team
2015-07-15 01:48
I kind of suspect it's more likely a fall out with NBKry.
2015-07-15 02:11
I always got the vibe that happy and shox hated each other
2015-07-15 03:05
To be honest, it's seems most of France's top CS players have a lot of growing up to do before they can get along and create a consistent tier 1 team. That's only my opinion from observations though obviously.
2015-07-15 03:44
Does anyone not hate Happy?
2015-07-15 03:46
+100000
2015-07-15 06:33
#457
France yvo 
+1
2015-07-15 09:33
aye... just that one change might give Shox a much needed kick up the ass.
2015-07-15 10:42
kappe
2015-07-15 01:27
hltv pls theyre nout out theyre still under contract
2015-07-15 01:27
#74
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Sweden kraken108 
and you dont think EnvyUs are able to pay Titan for the rest of the contract-time?
2015-07-15 01:35
#24
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
omfg
2015-07-15 01:27
#25
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Portugal exorN 
lol
2015-07-15 01:27
#26
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North America nochance 
no.1 inc kappa
2015-07-15 01:27
breaking news
2015-07-15 01:27
#28
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Sweden NIP Fanboy #1 
RIP NV
2015-07-15 01:27
#232
Australia BCP 
rip nv??? they are getting kennys for shox which is worth it, and apex for smithz which is DEFINITELY worth it. meanwhile... light a candle for NiP, they lost 11 out of the last 12 maps against tier 1 teams, and their group for faceit is tsm fnatic and liquid, and if they manage to get out of groups - for which they will HAVE to play 2 games against fnatic or tsm (unless liquid beat fnatic then they will only have to win tsm once and beat liquid - which, lets face it, will definitely not happen)... aaand then they will face for semi finals winners of group b... vp, navi c9 and kinguin... i mean, unless nip completely changed in 5 days, the odds are stacked against them...
2015-07-15 02:33
Shox is a best mad fragger than apEX and definitily a better entry. SmithZz is one of the best support u can have in France. Very positive and cool. Not even for KennyS, who's crying every sigle time. This is not a good trade for nV. But it's a good trade for Titan.
2015-07-15 03:45
#578
Australia BCP 
"smithzz is one of the best support you can have in france. very positive and cool" "not even for kennys, whos crying every single time" not biased at all. when you look at it as -shox +apex -smithz +kennys sure it could be hard to tell if its a worthy deal, which is why you should look at it like this -shox +kennys -smithz +apex both of them are individually worth it for envy
2015-07-15 15:03
#235
Australia BCP 
oops, i forgot to actually light the candle [*]
2015-07-15 02:34
nV kennyS HYPE
2015-07-15 01:27
LOL
2015-07-15 01:28
are you ninja? ble ble ble
2015-07-15 01:28
It's Happening!
2015-07-15 01:28
-kio + shox
2015-07-15 01:28
K1o is NV's best player -kio haha no dude.
2015-07-15 04:22
im going to laugh if this turns out to be even worse team than before
2015-07-15 01:28
worse then 2 toxic guys not willing to practice or even bother trying like they did in the last event, I don't think so, roster changes always revives a team as shown throught cs history to the beginning. So this will spark some new life in NV forsure.
2015-07-15 04:35
#36
Brazil lc 
shox shouldnt leave
2015-07-15 01:28
He probably shouldn't but everyone knows shox and smithzz are butt buddies big time
2015-07-15 01:32
#95
Brazil lc 
ye, I know, but even so... They'd fight for top1 for sure.
2015-07-15 01:41
no...they wouldn't
2015-07-15 01:49
hltv.org/?pageid=28&&offset=50&search=1&.. why the time shox left titan smithzz did not join him ? :)
2015-07-16 03:20
hyyype
2015-07-15 01:29
allah akbar
2015-07-15 01:29
RIPPPPP
2015-07-15 01:29
same shit, envy will remain irregular and titan shit.
2015-07-15 01:29
irregular? I think you mean irrelevant
2015-07-15 03:32
Yeah, winning a major and some t1 LANs is irrelevant
2015-07-15 14:15
I don't agree, in just correcting his word choice
2015-07-15 17:08
Well, irregular was correct, dont know the use of this word in english but in latin language it means inconsistent, they can put great results like win one major and then going in slump for month.
2015-07-15 17:16
irregular isn't used in this context, he should have used inconsistent. irregular is different, has a similar meaning (kinda) but its usually used to describe triangles and other shit in geometry google.com/search?q=irregular&ie=utf-8&o..
2015-07-15 17:54
Yeah, but still irrelevent is far from what he want wanted to say
2015-07-15 18:31
KENNYS HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2015-07-15 01:29
rip
2015-07-15 01:29
I just don't imagine NBK, Happy and k1o without shox..
2015-07-15 01:30
#174
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Albania mars1ck 
YOU WILL IMAGINE THEM NOW
2015-07-15 02:03
russian team better
2015-07-15 01:30
#48
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Poland matblo 
GL
2015-07-15 01:30
nice
2015-07-15 01:30
How many entry fraggers do you need in this team? 3?
2015-07-15 01:30
#109
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United States Eneoji 
they only really have 2. Kioshima is not really best to entry frag but as the second in.
2015-07-15 01:43
Lol.
2015-07-15 02:03
nV hype! Looks like i might need to stat thinking about following nV now
2015-07-15 01:30
Best team:KennyS,apEX,Happy,Shox,NBK/Kiosima ex6 coach.
2015-07-15 01:30
ex6 water carrier
2015-07-15 01:33
:DD
2015-07-15 01:34
+1
2015-07-15 02:21
++1111
2015-07-15 04:08
#78
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Greece her-1g 
+1
2015-07-15 01:35
+1
2015-07-15 01:44
#55
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France Kairos1g 
expected
2015-07-15 01:31
#56
nitr0 | 
Netherlands TTHump 
expected
2015-07-15 01:31
WOWOWW
2015-07-15 01:32
Shox, Kennys, NBK, Apex, Happy.
2015-07-15 01:32
This is amazing for the scene
2015-07-15 01:32
though im 100% sure if shox asked scream to play with him scream would jump to him like fat kid jump to cake
2015-07-15 01:33
+1 scream shox smithz bot dave and bot george
2015-07-15 01:44
george had a really good season it'll be good to see if he can keep it up
2015-07-15 01:57
yeah man, i loved his play in warmup, it was insane
2015-07-15 03:47
#238
shox | 
Canada dB- 
bot gabe > all other bots because GABEN
2015-07-15 02:35
EXPECTED
2015-07-15 01:33
#64
chrisJ | 
United Kingdom Harribo 
The guy that posted the Vakarm thread has been on NBK's twitter all day past couple of days.
2015-07-15 01:33
Someone stalking someone's twitter posts irrelevant comment about someone else stalking someone's twitter. Thanks
2015-07-15 03:22
Expected I still love Kenny even if he decided to leave Titan. It's ok, Titan Shox > nV Kenny
2015-07-15 01:33
#70
flusha | 
Europe An0n0n 
Titan > NV if Shox and Smithzz join.
2015-07-15 01:34
kappa
2015-07-15 02:04
kappa so hard lmao
2015-07-15 03:47
#71
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Greece her-1g 
titan RpK, maniac, smithzz, shox, ex6tence LEL WORST TEAM EVER hahaah
2015-07-15 01:34
still won eswc 2011 with four of them xD but hey, it was css indeed ^^
2015-07-15 02:21
#565
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Greece hekzy 
-maniac +NBK And go back to source. Kappa
2015-07-15 14:17
Why -shox? Shox>>>>>>ALL Rip shox
2015-07-15 01:34
shox, kenny, apex, nbk and happy would be OP af
2015-07-15 01:35
#79
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Spain Alser 
HYPE
2015-07-15 01:35
expected
2015-07-15 01:35
envyus top1
2015-07-15 01:36
#83
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Hungary lemusz 
drunk shits
2015-07-15 01:37
#84
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France cedd 
rip shox
2015-07-15 01:37
I dont like it, Kenny has not shown the tactical side of things. That was the primary reason for his departure from Verygames. Seems to me like when this lineup flooks Kenny will be cut again for the same reasons. (Not to say that he will go bananas in Cologne, I am saying that he will probably be cut in 2-4 months.)
2015-07-15 01:38
the kennyS of VeryGames and the kennyS now are different. kennyS being the odd fit in VeryGames was because Ex6TenZ never knew how to use him, it wasn't until he returned to Titan where kennyS because the carry we saw in the last few months.
2015-07-15 02:09
I don't think anyone would drop him awp on this arrogant lineup of envy... He will be useless trust me... Actually it happened before
2015-07-15 04:12
Q: Why didn't SmithZZZ leave Titan for shox?
2015-07-15 01:38
they didnt have anal sex yet then; now they do
2015-07-15 03:48
Interesting.
2015-07-15 09:29
-1-5 French +1-5 French -6-10 French +6-10 French. NV will still be outside top 3 and Titan will still be outside top 6. Still not the French Dream team we've been waiting for. KennyS, Shox, Happy, Kio, NBK, with Ex6tenz as coach is there only chance of being tier 1 again. What a wasted opportunity for Envy. Titan should use this opportunity to drop RPK and Maniac and pick up some young French up and comers. They're not going anywhere with those 2.
2015-07-15 01:42
u mean, titan outside top 10-15?
2015-07-15 01:41
-nbk +bot
2015-07-15 01:47
I'd say you could put 2/3 from Apex, NBK or Kio in that team. But my main point is they need KennyS Awping,Shox main , Happy lurking, Ex6stenz coaching. Top 3 with that line up.
2015-07-15 01:53
"is there only chance..." their* either fake-flagger or idiot lol edit: or Paki immigrant xD
2015-07-15 06:41
Idiot confirmed. Good detective work.
2015-07-15 07:01
I agree m8
2015-07-15 09:20
HYPE Y P E
2015-07-15 01:38
yes
2015-07-15 01:38
expecting big things from this team if it happens
2015-07-15 01:39
Without Shox? Ain't gonna happen.
2015-07-15 01:43
when Envy were "WINNING" tournaments, shox was not the player in form, it was happy/kio lol, and when Envy were losing tournaments shox was in form, so I have no idea what the hell you are on about.
2015-07-15 04:39
Yea that's very true actually.
2015-07-15 06:29
#407
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Europe porrasm 
If kennyS is on point he can carry any team to victory.
2015-07-15 08:30
haha rip Titan :D
2015-07-15 01:39
shox>apex kennys>smithz
2015-07-15 01:40
EnVyUs gonna be hella strong now, good luck to them
2015-07-15 01:40
shox>apex
2015-07-15 01:41
Huge Plays
2015-07-15 01:41
lol fucking shox, he is just throwing for his friend a giant opportunity to be in a top1 team...
2015-07-15 01:41
+1
2015-07-15 01:42
Ever thought that friendship/loyalty is more important to some people than success?
2015-07-15 02:05
If Smithz were a real good friend he would say to shoxie to do whatever is best for him. Imo that choice is to stay in nV.
2015-07-15 02:10
maybe envy didnt want shox to be in the team? because it says so in the article and if you could read i wouldnt have to tell you. its always easy to say things like that as an outsider,so please show some respect
2015-07-15 02:42
So even if smithz says so, cant friendship be more important for shox? Stupid shit.
2015-07-15 03:48
smithzz wasnt loyal when shox left Titan, now was he?
2015-07-15 03:50
u have to understand that shox in his current form is useless to any team. If he's not training properly, you might as well have a 2014 n0thing anchoring the scoreboard.
2015-07-15 01:41
#104
OCEAN | 
United States 00zach 
expected.
2015-07-15 01:42
HYPE Y P E
2015-07-15 01:42
Finally some interesting news from the top level scene. :)
2015-07-15 01:43
#112
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Brazil hunte[R] 
shox to kinguin in fox place.
2015-07-15 01:43
-fox - rain +shox +smithzz
2015-07-15 01:46
They love finding stray players. SmithZz won't be much help for the team though.
2015-07-15 01:48
#215
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Brazil hunte[R] 
agree, smithz should retire
2015-07-15 02:22
Or drop a tier, yes. Should have done some time ago really
2015-07-15 02:24
you have to look at this from another perspective. he was the worst player in one of, maybe even the most skilled team in the world. and he improved on rifles this year ( just a bit), so i think he could definitely play in another decent team
2015-07-15 02:45
#542
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Brazil hunte[R] 
perhaps "new titan" could be a nice home for him, but they will be a tier 2 team, for sure
2015-07-15 13:00
He still is one of the worst top tier 1 players, and he needs to step back a bit.
2015-07-15 13:38
i really doubt that this change will make them better.
2015-07-15 01:44
+1
2015-07-15 08:26
nice bagguets
2015-07-15 01:45
#121
EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife 
glhf
2015-07-15 01:46
Why shoxie and kenny had never been in the same lineup
2015-07-15 01:47
Illuminati confirmed
2015-07-15 02:01
#128
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
-fox +shox
2015-07-15 01:49
why -shox? imo -kio -smithzz
2015-07-15 01:49
shox is best friend of smithzz
2015-07-15 02:04
new titan > new nV
2015-07-15 01:49
XD
2015-07-15 01:51
Wtf why they kicked out Shox ? I understand their choice with Shmithz but Shox > apex
2015-07-15 01:50
shox, kenny, apex, nbk and happy would be OP
2015-07-15 01:50
Best new team
2015-07-15 01:50
Shox best aim France imo. Bad decision in that way. But Kenny-Smithzz best decision ever.
2015-07-15 01:51
expected
2015-07-15 01:52
#140
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United Kingdom Mattthematt 
I honestly think playing with a hangover isnt really a bad thing. I play sport sometimes with a hangover and it helps clear my head and concentrate
2015-07-15 01:52
Same, but instead of smashing vodka down, you should consider watching some demos.
2015-07-15 02:02
HAHAHAHAa lmao
2015-07-15 04:18
#447
ptr | 
Poland EvilMack 
rekt
2015-07-15 09:24
so unprofessional
2015-07-15 01:52
apex is not better than shox.
2015-07-15 01:53
newsflash
2015-07-15 06:36
OMG really? /s /ban
2015-07-15 06:45
Downgrade and a half
2015-07-15 01:54
Kenny realizing that he should have just joined the team from the start instead of staying with ex6
2015-07-15 01:55
Funny thing is blaming it on work ethic i bet some other things was behind it. shox and smithzz werent the only ones underpreforming also ... NBK has behaving rather like a kid and i wonder how enVyUs org just let it slide and then kicks one of their star players cuz of work ethics?
2015-07-15 01:56
While I think Shox is the best individual player in France, Happy made a lot of things happen with nV. I do not think Shox will be that huge of a loss, but I think both teams will actually get better with these changes. As people said above though, neither team will return to the same level they were before. If I was Titan, I don't even know if I would take a chance on Shox and Smithz with the way they played the past couple of LANs
2015-07-15 01:57
they need to kick maniac at least Shox Smithz RPK Ex6 ton1ou
2015-07-15 01:58
i would kick rpk, maniac has been doing well in the last months
2015-07-15 02:28
+1 to1nou is really good, they should kick rpk... Maniac was the best Titan player in last months
2015-07-15 17:33
SHOX AND SMithz kinguin confirmed
2015-07-15 01:58
Shox better than kio, best choice: -Smithzz - kio +apEX +kennyS but -Smithzz +or kennyS or apEX good too
2015-07-15 01:59
no problem. in 6 months another french shuffle.
2015-07-15 01:58
Dreamteam Mistou Maj3r Kqly Sf Area Kappa
2015-07-15 02:02
About time
2015-07-15 02:01
biggest bullshit ever lol replace an support player with an entry fragger even tho you already have one most likely happy will still pick up the awp over kenny all the time and come on seriously?apex is so fucking inconsistent envyus should have just work out their problems and not do any roster changes titan should replace rpk with to1nuo and give him a chance however i dont see envy go far with this lineup because kennys sucks at majors
2015-07-15 02:01
-Fox +Shox on Kinguin inc
2015-07-15 02:02
We can pray. I kind of get the feeling Kinguin are on a mission to pick up as many big name star players as they can. It makes no sense to pay Fox the highest salary in CSGO when Shox is a free agent. NIP have proven that you can still maintain a huge fan base and crazy sponsorship deals of big name players even without winning tournaments. I think this is the type of team Kinguin are gunning for.
2015-07-15 02:33
I guess you are a lawyer xD This is a complement
2015-07-15 04:22
I work in engineering. Just seems like an obvious marketing strategy to me.
2015-07-15 06:27
+1
2015-07-15 06:37
very good team but not best (if shox to play instead of nbk, it would be bestestestestest) kennyS apEX NBK Happy kio
2015-07-15 02:02
Ok I then. hltv.org/movie/18210-csgo-envyus-changes.. This actually will happen, lol.
2015-07-15 02:02
RIP Titan. Maniac RPK EX6tenz Smithz Shoxie tier 4 confirmerd lel
2015-07-15 02:02
u mean tier englando ??? lelele
2015-07-15 02:10
ehehehhe xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2015-07-15 02:16
NEW INT. TEAM SMITHZ SHOXIE SIMPLE FIFLAREN DEVILWALK #BELIVE
2015-07-15 02:02
#195
Spain SR4 
cl_brain 0
2015-07-15 02:11
#223
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North America noahB_ 
+1 hahahha
2015-07-15 02:26
hahahaha
2015-07-15 02:47
*p1mple and -fiffy and minus -dw + cadiaN and + XANTARES
2015-07-15 03:52
Double AWP kennyS Happy?
2015-07-15 02:03
R.I.P Titan, and congratulations EnVy, sickest french lineup so far
2015-07-15 02:05
I really hope both smithz and shox join LDLC white instead of titan, they seem to have a huge potential
2015-07-15 02:07
#188
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Poland enterq18 
why not -apex and +shox ??
2015-07-15 02:07
Still going to lose to C9.
2015-07-15 02:07
Envyus will be less predictable so less likely imo
2015-07-15 02:11
Less predictable, more disoriented.
2015-07-15 02:46
it is for Titan0 -maniac +shox belive me or rito
2015-07-15 02:08
5 fairly inconsistent players, but if they are all on fire its pretty difficult to stop kenny, apex, nbk
2015-07-15 02:10
RIP
2015-07-15 02:12
i feel like getting rid of shox is not a good idea. cuz shox definitely > kennys and envyus hve enough capable awps already. and whos gonna be shotcaller is my question cuz i think shox was shotcalling and doesnt apex call shots for titan? im just very sad to see my fav lineup go. :(
2015-07-15 02:13
AAAAAAND TITAN STICKER OWNERS JUST CRIED YOUBITCHYOU
2015-07-15 02:14
OMG KennyS and Apex might be in EnvyUs btw if you don't know guys EnvyUs is a American organization.
2015-07-15 02:15
KennyS overrated af at the moment. He is not top3 anymore.And; Friends > Job GL to Shoxie and Smithzz
2015-07-15 02:16
are u retarded? every1 knows that kenny is on slump these months and nobody overrate him. lol.
2015-07-15 02:18
#211
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Bulgaria Molen 
agreed :)
2015-07-15 02:20
still kenny> smithz on a shittiest day for him
2015-07-15 02:27
Ye I am sure it's so easy for Kenny to stay motivated after carrying his team for about a year now and they still ccan't get out of groups, I'm sure every top player would be thrilled with that situation and keep playing 100% everygame for them when they keep been utter shit and having an ingame leader that couldn't frag if his life depended on it. Nv.KennyS > Titan.KennyS BIGTIME!!!
2015-07-15 04:43
>swoop
2015-07-15 02:16
omg nV top3 fo sho
2015-07-15 02:19
nice, now -pasha+michu and swedish shuffle
2015-07-15 02:19
are ya expecting fnatic to shuffle aswell? xD
2015-07-15 02:29
dont you know? nip and fnatic have been talking for weeks about changes. it will be jw to nip probably or maybe even gtr to fnatic. too bad michu denied he will play in vp soon :/
2015-07-15 02:33
why would fnatic shuffle, these are just rumors dude, pretty sure it wont happen. fnatic has been the best team last year, and they're still the best, so no reason to happen
2015-07-15 02:35
lmao, those are facts. the rumors are about results of those talks. There are shittons of hits there will be changes is fnatic and nip soon. I can bet It will happen this summer.
2015-07-15 02:40
-smith -kio ? maybe
2015-07-15 02:19
EnVyUS | kennyS <3
2015-07-15 02:20
OMG! The only thing nV needed is -Smitzz +KennyS and not to go out for a party every fucking event!
2015-07-15 02:22
+1
2015-07-15 09:18
lol retards -shox
2015-07-15 02:23
intresting
2015-07-15 02:24
Happy doesnt know how to play with a dedicated AWP... Expected but there will be poor results for sure. nV will need to completely redo style and strats.
2015-07-15 02:24
#230
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World N1CSPlayer 
Shox for Titan Awper time for shox like youtube.com/watch?v=1RJW98_JtlA
2015-07-15 02:32
Why do the french-scene gods do this? When will the 2 best french players just be put on the same team, shox+kenny would be unstoppable.
2015-07-15 02:34
Honestly, I can see Smithzz and shox joining Kinguin, replacing fox and rain would make them a Top Tier 1 Team as Kinguin have been losing to Tier 2 teams, plus with ScreaM in the Roster it's gonna be pretty amazing
2015-07-15 02:36
Some time then top #1 world.
2015-07-15 02:37
I are think so
2015-07-15 09:23
#241
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North America Foxaika 
Pretty hyped if this does come to pass. Could be a very strong lineup.
2015-07-15 02:37
Finally
2015-07-15 02:42
#249
Kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax 
KINGUIN shox?
2015-07-15 02:42
sweet so if shox and smithz go to titan we have a new french top team :D
2015-07-15 02:44
Shox is gonna have to carry like crazy and Smithzz is gonna need to become more consistent for that to happen. RPK still has not performed great. Maniac has been decent on LAN
2015-07-15 02:47
yeah, nv.
2015-07-15 03:27
+1
2015-07-15 09:07
Pretty pathetic to be cut because of work ethic in a video game...you are literally being paid salary/prize money to be good at a game...
2015-07-15 02:47
CS GO is so complex man, if you want to learn every little detail you need years and im not even kidding. I agree it sounds a little stupid , but instead of drinking before games you maybe should watch demos etc.
2015-07-15 02:51
+1 There's a lot of inmature people.
2015-07-15 02:53
Absolutely. But they are people who never got a "common" job. So they are still like children, out of reality.
2015-07-15 09:17
French scene strikes again, wait 3 months and we'll have sth kio + happy going to titan O_O gl, I hope you guys have enough time to prepare well!
2015-07-15 02:48
just why shox? damnnn...
2015-07-15 02:52
cause he is overrated and apex is much better than him.
2015-07-15 02:53
holy fuck will people ever understand that he and smithzz are butt buddies; one goes the other goes too
2015-07-15 03:59
rip both teams
2015-07-15 02:53
#262
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0 
Good transfer for both teams. But I'm kinda worried more for nV since apex sucks hard right now and kio is pretty similar. Kenny and Happy will carry And Titan is the place where both shox and smithzz were at their best so who knows RpK and shox in 1 team with RpK becoming good like in the old days is hard to beat. Anyway Titan at it's best>nV at it's best
2015-07-15 02:56
People don't just "become" as they were before. Just look at Neo lol. SmithZz hasn't been that good in CS:GO at all, and especially not in the past few months
2015-07-15 03:08
Smithzz was good in Verygames for a few months.
2015-07-15 08:21
And before on CSS, but now...he's playing well rarely. Sad :(
2015-07-15 09:14
I'll rephrase: SmithZz has never been consistently good enough to make a positive difference in a proper tier 1 team*. Especially not with the awp
2015-07-15 13:36
Kinguin. shox NOW!!
2015-07-15 02:57
To much drink alcohol - kick from team...
2015-07-15 03:02
hahah drunk nV almost beat c9
2015-07-15 03:08
Hahaha ! x)
2015-07-15 09:13
i like kennys and i like envy, this is fckuing perfect
2015-07-15 03:13
now valve just needs to revert the AWP nerf
2015-07-15 03:16
haha :)
2015-07-15 05:45
nV top 1!!!!!! so excited
2015-07-15 03:17
#279
Goalie | 
United Kingdom LaoG 
Titan without Kenny tier 2 confirmed
2015-07-15 03:22
already tier2, prob t3 now
2015-07-15 03:32
Rip dream shox and Kenn
2015-07-15 03:24
nice now maybe envy can stop being trash
2015-07-15 03:30
It was Kenny + ScreaM = Envy >Fnatic>Rest of all teams
2015-07-15 03:32
You must be new here. Kenny + Scream played together in Titan and they were trash.
2015-07-15 07:59
Because of ex6
2015-07-15 09:29
i know that but.. we are in 2015 not 2013/14
2015-07-15 17:50
sick .
2015-07-15 03:32
shox>kioshima why he is out?
2015-07-15 03:40
he's always with smithzz, they're best friend i believe so shox refuse to play without him.
2015-07-15 03:48
im have hope kio out shox back envy because smithz and shox no have change together in other team habit titan
2015-07-15 08:41
i think 90% shox & smithzz will out, nV can't afford to lose too many player. Just wondering about those 2, shox hates ex6tenz so i don't know if they willing to move to Titan.
2015-07-15 12:18
No scream no party
2015-07-15 03:51
People have been saying all along that shox and smithz are a package and now its confirmed. So with that being a given i don't think this is such a bad option KennyS for Smiths was always the best upgrade to that team and if they have to lose Shox to do it then so be it. Lucky apex is a good replacement for Shox. I think id rather Shox but id much rather apex and kenny than shoX and smiths. THE END
2015-07-15 03:55
#371
method | 
United States f0xes` 
+1
2015-07-15 06:48
True. It's just kind of sad, cause NBK-Kio-Happy-KennyS-Shox could have been a great lineup imo...
2015-07-15 09:12
double rip
2015-07-15 04:17
EnVyUs haha, more like EndOfUs
2015-07-15 04:20
n1
2015-07-15 06:59
I hate when people use the word Arguably when there's literally no argument at all.
2015-07-15 04:28
Kinguin shox.... Or wait 5 months Kinguin disbands and shox+scream again.... Most enjoyable aim couple
2015-07-15 04:31
Shox is much better than apex imo. So sad that Kenny and Shox doesnt like each other...
2015-07-15 04:40
#331
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Spain StarkForce1 
Shoxie was my favourite cs go player, I suscribes to his twitch channel, but when the team change from LDLC to EnVy... GL for Apex and for KennyS. PD: Shoxie, Smith, you can come to my spanish team XD
2015-07-15 05:16
shoxie :(
2015-07-15 05:25
RIP Titan
2015-07-15 05:38
Rip NV u mean
2015-07-15 07:21
RIP Titan he means
2015-07-15 09:09
Rip NV i mean
2015-07-15 13:14
Rip NV and titan.... the only hope in Ldlc white and to1nou
2015-07-15 17:36
Happy , k1o , NBK + Kennys and Apex Nice team , gl&hf
2015-07-15 05:48
Kinguin.shox pls
2015-07-15 05:54
kennyS Happy apEX The perfect LDLC trio is coming together again (I guess Sf's ban taints their LDLC history though).
2015-07-15 06:03
Funny how Richard Lewis said exactly the same thing 3 days ago on one of his articles in Dailydot and the news wasn't cited in HLTV. I guess Vakarm are three days late uh :)
2015-07-15 06:04
HLTV hates him. It's childish and it dates back multiple years. inb4 I get banned
2015-07-15 06:16
Finally
2015-07-15 06:04
This will, hands down be the best team in the world.
2015-07-15 06:14
Get rid of shox? Surely not
2015-07-15 06:17
yes my friend, kenny and shox doesnt like each other
2015-07-15 06:21
But....But...shox is a god ;-;
2015-07-15 09:57
Shox and Smithzzz are leaving together because they're butt buddies... whatever. Picking up KennyS is probably what they've wanted to do all along and I don't think picking up apeX as an entry fragger will particularly hurt them because both k1o and NBK and Happy are talented enough and smart enough to play multiple roles. Happy is probably ecstatic to get a weapon like KennyS to use at his disposal
2015-07-15 06:37
i prefer kenny with ex6tenz tho o well we gon c
2015-07-15 06:39
what a shit show.. probably just a bitch fight..
2015-07-15 06:51
Expected
2015-07-15 07:16
bad move imo
2015-07-15 07:16
Don't think this will be a good move in the long run, but I hope to be proved wrong
2015-07-15 07:29
#391
Japan mEV 
Why everyone don't think -Happy? i know,,,his Rating high(1.11) but he's not stable... -shox × -Happy? -SmithZz determination
2015-07-15 07:39
Happy is their igl,why would they kick him? He is playing well
2015-07-15 07:39
whyyy Kenny hasnt been any good since the awpdate
2015-07-15 07:36
This is actually hilarious and not in the good way. LDLC/nV have been a great team since forming, a consistent top-3. They have a great line up with potential for more as is but instead of tackling their issues they decide to split. That's just a high level of immaturity.
2015-07-15 07:42
+1
2015-07-15 09:07
gl
2015-07-15 07:50
#397
fer | 
Austria neodan 
envy team said they are burned out and i trust the team they playing every single day on top envy manager say cmon lets make a roster change give the teams more breaks from playing cs is on the way to be boring cause every day 8 hot matches with the 8 same teams
2015-07-15 07:55
In football if a team starts underperforming, they change the coach, not the players. I assume that the fact that they've been on the very top of the scene for about a year just speaks for itself, meaning that they are capable of doing it again. Just give them a fucking break.
2015-07-15 08:08
amen +1111 was thinking the same all day long ... would be kinda better to play it maybe like the eufa champions league 1 big tournament over months and not everyday online matches with the same 10-20 teams... ands give lower teams a chance to compete against the top
2015-07-15 08:28
Nv hype. If this doesn't work Bring back the VG and see how fnatic loses
2015-07-15 07:57
RIP EnVy :(
2015-07-15 08:15
why Shoxie? He is the best in team(, EnvyUs RIP for me
2015-07-15 08:34
SWOOPED
2015-07-15 08:35
swoop? or swap?
2015-07-15 08:42
swoop like a falcon
2015-07-15 08:52
Shox RIP , hopefully you will get better team .
2015-07-15 09:06
Hoping for shox to get his moti back :/
2015-07-15 09:14
#438
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France bigfan 
envyus rip
2015-07-15 09:15
#443
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Sweden klvmeister 
RIP TITAN. shox > apex btw but if they want kick Smithzz shox will be together...
2015-07-15 09:21
i prefer -smithzz +kennyS
2015-07-15 09:26
same here
2015-07-15 09:48
+1000000
2015-07-15 12:14
kennyS never Leave Ex6:D .. this is Fake info :D guys :D Maniac Leaving Gaming Scene and shox Join Titan instead of him
2015-07-15 09:31
EnVyUs = DREAM TEAM
2015-07-15 09:33
#663
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Russia bugsYsiegel 
-apex and happy, +shox and ex6
2015-07-16 14:03
nice :) now nV really strong!
2015-07-15 09:58
finnaly!
2015-07-15 10:00
yesterday KUKLI said on stream that he would replace Maniac in Titan (no joke), top kek 3000.
2015-07-15 10:04
apex is so fucking overrated for me, this guy makes 1 good match then 10 awful ones
2015-07-15 10:08
I don't understand this sentence: "then Titan will consider replacing the departing duo with none other than Papillon and Dubourdeaux"
2015-07-15 10:15
It means Titan would get Smithz and Shox
2015-07-15 10:19
thank's.
2015-07-15 10:20
Papillon = shox Dubourdeaux = smithzz
2015-07-15 10:19
not thank's tout you. J'avais compris que papillon = Shox. m'pren pour ki?
2015-07-15 10:20
lol bah si tu caches ton drapeau comment je peux savoir que t'es franco? :P
2015-07-15 11:19
no shit sherlock
2015-07-15 10:27
what else is unclear in his fucking statement sherlock?
2015-07-15 11:20
Papillon = shox Dubourdeaux = smithzz like we didnt knw who was who...
2015-07-15 11:57
#680
NiKo | 
France motion:  
LOL sometimes is better be quiet than saying anything at all cuz what you said was completely useless
2015-07-18 16:52
So many fangays here
2015-07-15 10:26
Hm I don't think they needed roster changes. Everyone on this team is good, I think they just needed some rest and a better approach to practice. Kenny and apex are too overrated, It won't be a good change.
2015-07-15 10:26
AHAHAHA shox can fuck off and listen to that fucking ombongo congo song on his own now
2015-07-15 10:48
Not sure how I feel about this. Both kennys and apex are extremely inconsistent players as of late. At the same time, they're still both better than smithz.
2015-07-15 10:52
RIP nV
2015-07-15 10:55
N1
2015-07-15 11:12
#496
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Russia Reph 
ez 4 KennyS. The team needed a normal sniper.
2015-07-15 11:16
This team will be known for choking in high intense games. It will be like the Titan lineup after shox left them. They will reach a few semi-finals in sub tier tournaments, but they will never get close to winning a major. Sorry boys, this team will be a huge disappointment. There is no team in French CSGO history that has won anything without shox in their roster.
2015-07-15 11:22
this guy ^
2015-07-15 11:51
That !!!
2015-07-15 12:19
clan mystic won eswc 2013 and titan won dreamhack invitaional 2014
2015-07-15 15:05
well, there you go. My point still stands though. Clan mystic's victory was considered one of the biggest upsets at the time. No one could have predicted it, and they sucked the upcoming tournaments after. Titans DH invitational victory was with KQLY, and we all know how his career turned out.
2015-07-15 15:25
when envy was at their best, shox was like their their third best player.
2015-07-17 14:54
lol shox roster won lan with no competition if you talk about source .. in csgo he was good at one point but right now..
2015-07-15 20:14
no one here is talking about source...
2015-07-15 22:18
now we won't be able to see force buy king team </3 like 5 deagles on an eco round.. it was crazy, but im glad to see that they are taking esports still seriously! <3
2015-07-15 11:30
rip titan ( it was already dead ) rip nV ( kennys too inconsistent )
2015-07-15 11:35
I'm really happy that Kennys will get a chance to play for the first place now, with a very good team. However, i'm sad that Shox is leaving at the same time. He is one of the best players ever, always amazing to watch. I think that duo could achieve so much more than Kennys and apex, because lets be real, the latter played in titan for a long time, and it didn't look like power couple. Shox to kinguin would be the dream
2015-07-15 11:36
#506
xosht | 
Georgia xosht 
Shox > kio, whats wrong.. open your eyes envy
2015-07-15 11:45
Shox is almost gay with smithzz. If shox stays in the lineup, he will be a cancer for the full team
2015-07-15 12:10
BotApex
2015-07-15 11:47
He was not a bot with the leading of Happy...
2015-07-15 12:09
#508
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Azerbaijan M1R4CL3 
awesome finnaly Kennys and apex
2015-07-15 11:50
apex>kqly vac soon
2015-07-15 11:54
It's honestly so weird to me, that none of them actually decide about the teams but the organizations do. Friendships barely decide anything i guess. When krimz n olof joined fnatic they were just the two of them, now krimz is friends with the rest though and idk about olof
2015-07-15 11:57
#531
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Slovenia eTheBlack 
They are all friends.
2015-07-15 12:21
Yes, but if they got to choose it'd be very different. like for example, if you want shox you gotta get smithzz
2015-07-15 12:29
fuck friendship it s competion ...these guys ,shox ect seems very imature
2015-07-15 16:35
expected
2015-07-15 12:00
bye shox smithzz
2015-07-15 12:02
Guys you all forget old ldlc with happy and apex..they reached the top 5 quickly
2015-07-15 12:19
+1 I think Happy knows how to use apex better than EX6tenz
2015-07-15 12:21
You mean reached top 5 KQLY.
2015-07-16 14:23
expected
2015-07-15 12:32
inb4 Happy isn't going to work well with KennyS at all. -happy +ex6. Sorted. i don't even care that ex6 isn't a mad fragger, he'll co-ordinate and manage them far better than happy ever will. Happy probably just run in front of kenny so he can get the kills, then just lose the game.
2015-07-15 12:34
Shox out wtf? He is better than apEX. ApEX recently play shit.GL shox and SmithZz.
2015-07-15 12:38
That's funny because during the last LAN it seemed like it was Happy and NBKunt not giving a fuck at all, not shox and smithzz :_D
2015-07-15 12:39
#540
cyx | 
Europe dA-oInK  
Maybe they had a dispute with shmoxx.
2015-07-15 12:53
Well i was sorta expecting this but Smithzz started getting on the rails but this will Help them hopefully
2015-07-15 12:47
EnVyUs benefits much more from that shuffle tbh. apEX is the best entry fragger in France, kennyS is arguably the best French sniper, he can't open sites by himself anymore, but it's not needed since his teammates will do that easily. You can say, that apEX is inconsistent, but, I think, he simply lost motivation, seeing, how bad his team is. Moreover, you can't be a topfragger everytime, when you need to open sites, your main goal is to make the first kill, may be the first two kills, but you can't do -4 in every round, especially playing vs fnatic or TSM, having RpK and Ex6 as your teammates. shox is pretty bad as an open fragger, and now EnVyUs finally takes apEX. shox lacks motivation, may be he will work hard in his new team, but for now he's almost useless for EnVyUs, so getting rid of him is a good move for nV. SmithZz was decent as a sniper, but something went wrong, his last couple of months reminded me of late Fifflaren, when he also didn't play with AWP, being NiP's main sniper, and f0rest did it instead. In EnVyUs Happy and shox "replaced" SmithZz in the role of the main sniper, which made SmithZz almost useless for his team. It happened to him back in his Titan times too, when shox left, and kennyS was picked as the main sniper. SmithZz is mediocre as a rifler, so, when he's not the main sniper, he's useless. And now look at Titan. No kennyS, no apEX. Back in their VeryGames times, ScreaM was an openfragger, and who will be one after that shuffle happens? Look at their possible lineup: Ex6TenZ shox SmithZz RpK Maniac. Who will open sites for them? shox proved himself as a pretty bad openfragger, Maniac is a lurker, RpK suxx. Thus, no openfragger for Titan. I don't really know, how would they play with this lineup, they need someone to be their openfragger. So, Happy wins again, I mean, when Titan stole his 3 teammates, he teamed up with the other guys and won a major, while Titan still sucked. And now he steals the players, that carried Titan all the time, leaving them with no openfragger and no sick sniper. GJ Happy, RIP Titan.
2015-07-15 13:01
The potential titan team, kinda goes way, way back. As they all, except Maniac, played together in some periods of Source. Shox and RPK should, in my mind, be able to take the role as entryfragging. Their potential is basicly limitless - They might not be in the shape of their lives cs-wise. But if they reach it, they're both potential top5 riflers. That's also why I don't think you should write off Titan just yet. I guess it could be my mind somehow still stuck in Source and 1.6 times. But I know exactly how well, the four of them can play. If they make the team synergy work, and really get some practice in - Then I could see them taking home some trophies over the year. tl;dr NV made a good deal, time will tell for Titan, I refuse to write them off.
2015-07-15 15:22
I still can't get it - why everyone hypes RpK that much? May be he was a player of the same level as shox in CS:S, but CS:GO is a completely different game, I played those 3 games and I know, what I'm talking about. Look at RpK: hltv.org/?pageid=247&playerid=7169 He basically had only ONE sick tournament - DHW 2012. But, looking at his match history at that event hltv.org/?pageid=246&playerid=7169&event.. you can clearly see, that the most frags were made by him vs weak teams like Hawks, 3DMAX and Lemondogs. Thus, RpK isn't any special and has no potential, he has never been a god in CS:GO, with him Titan will have 3 very weak players: Ex6 SmithZz RpK. shox, even playing like 2 GeT_RiGhTs, can't carry them vs strong opponents. I know, Ex6 has some sick strats, but to win matches you need also some firepower. I'd say Maniac has improved HUGELY under Ex6TenZ' leading, I've never seen Maniac that good before. But Ex6 isn't Midas, he can't create GeT_RiGhT out of Fifflaren. shox seem to not understand, what a huge mistake he made. Titan still have no future, and shox in this new team will play worse than apEX did. I was mistaken about Ex6TenZ' teams pretty rarely, you will see that I'm right - that new Titan will disband till the end of 2015, keeping failing at the groupstages.
2015-07-15 17:19
kinda expected
2015-07-15 13:19
Shox > Apex all day
2015-07-15 13:21
#557
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
Yeah, but apEX & kennyS > shox & SmithZz
2015-07-15 13:53
shox> Nbk imho
2015-07-15 13:40
best news
2015-07-15 13:46
Exciting
2015-07-15 13:50
im crying why they remove SHOX
2015-07-15 13:52
bcz he drinking
2015-07-15 14:35
NBK is the best NV player and not Happy who is lurking. Its easier to lurk than entry frag. I think its a good choice to change Smithzz by kennyS. Apex is, when he is motivate, the best french player so its a good choice too.
2015-07-15 13:52
Dunno but I will never look at that team as it was with shox, dunno why.
2015-07-15 14:10
omg.
2015-07-15 14:11
old news
2015-07-15 14:17
#569
TaZ | 
Poland reap3r 
Fnatic still best.
2015-07-15 14:39
Just wow. This is big news
2015-07-15 14:44
R.I.P Titan
2015-07-15 14:55
EnVyUs srs had some problems versus us... Maybe they can fix it with their lineup changes!
2015-07-15 15:32
lol its seang@res but nice try <3
2015-07-15 15:56
nice try fake sean
2015-07-15 17:17
fail
2015-07-15 17:58
#640
shox | 
Canada dB- 
fail fake, please go sit in a fire
2015-07-15 19:40
They will be good for some time, but the choke will come before dreamhack winter and they will kick kio. You can't have proper top french and world top team without shox.
2015-07-15 15:52
#589
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Lithuania EuKern 
i think -shox bad for envyus but we can see kinguin linup change too
2015-07-15 15:52
#591
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Germany OfficialKown 
wtf
2015-07-15 15:57
apex & kenny way too emotional for happy, nbk and kio to handle
2015-07-15 16:03
WTF,-shox HELL NO !Pleas please please
2015-07-15 16:14
#599
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
SHOX NEEDS TO BE IN THE TEAM ,FFFFFFFFFS
2015-07-15 16:52
i think Shox and smithZz come as a package... they're joined at the hip or something. So this move makes sense even though shox is a great player
2015-07-15 17:20
#620
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
yeh but still shox has to be in the best french team
2015-07-15 18:07
#601
Switzerland gmi 
RIP Titan :(
2015-07-15 17:10
expected -smithz = -shox they are the best friends
2015-07-15 17:38
Very nice, just like I wanted it to be.
2015-07-15 18:00
although I prefer to see apex and shox in the same team. I can't disagree that with nV apex will improve even more his game maybe better teammates gonna help him to get his consistency.
2015-07-15 18:03
#619
CIS w3 
Good. f. RpK cancer :D
2015-07-15 18:05
haven't ever seen a longer thread on hltv concerning the point, shox+smithzz are not more than the rest of the team, so I wish them gl and LOTS of luck to NV predicting that their game level will fall down for a month or 2
2015-07-15 18:12
rip titan
2015-07-15 18:12
More like RIP NV. :'D
2015-07-15 18:15
inb4 shox cut because of impending vac ban
2015-07-15 18:47
#639
shox | 
Canada dB- 
in your dreams son, 2 legit 2 quit
2015-07-15 19:39
#636
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France BlacK9 
I want this team : Shox, Happy, Scream, KennyS, Kiochima plz :'(
2015-07-15 19:00
shox SmithZz RpK (caller) mSx & matHEND - Heard it here first.
2015-07-15 19:05
Shox to KINGUIN NOWWWW PLZ XD
2015-07-15 19:33
It should've been -Smithz +kennyS that's all.. Why ? Because Apex is not consistent enough for tier one, he already disappointed us on a lot of matches for Titan and that won't change soon. Shox is a better overall played, godly with pistol, can awp if needed and was a good clutcher for nV. kennyS is finally retrieving his aim after that nasty awp update some months ago, we can say he is back top3 awp with ska and guardian so definitely a better player than smithz. So except for the fact shox followed smithz out of brotherhood, I don't understand their move. You don't necessarily have to play with your best friend to have a good atmosphere and play better. To end, I don't think this team is going to surprise us by winning Cologne but with them goodluck and quit drinking on events ;/
2015-07-15 19:47
dunno if it's true but if i m right apex help a lot on the tacital side watching lot of demo ect..this can be a big + for envyus as it seems it worked with ldlc, to me envy us with the shox line up play in way that is not very tactical,they try to impose their game with skill like 1.6 french players and it never worked consitent, this game style is too random depending if the entry fraggers are in a good day or not..(the lack of time to practice could explain this )
2015-07-15 20:07
#643
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
How can they cut shox? lol
2015-07-15 19:58
motivation. Have you seen him the last events? not giving a shit, almost sleeping on warmup in semifinal in the biggest cs tournament in history, not warming up at all just killing himself doesnt matter that he is one of the best players out there if you don't like your team.
2015-07-15 21:00
+
2015-07-15 20:40
#646
Estonia rYm 
Shox idiot put friendship over profession. Quite sure they wont even play in one team .
2015-07-15 20:40
Why not ScreaM :(((((((((((((
2015-07-15 22:23
Shox is best player in world!
2015-07-15 22:33
All of u guys talkin about kennis, shox, apex and smithzz, but everyone forget about maniac. If shox join tits and will play with maniac it will be like 2 players f*ck any team only on individual play XD
2015-07-15 23:05
#658
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France Lelib 
+4
2015-07-16 04:37
now kinguin -rain+shox PLEASEEEE
2015-07-16 12:21
Best of luck Papillon!
2015-07-16 13:05
when?:(((
2015-07-18 00:51
If Kenny steps up his game this will be a top 3 team
2015-07-18 17:06
scream better at apex but np
2015-07-19 01:30
Bump
2015-10-04 12:33
Bump
2016-09-05 17:05
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