Titan, EnVyUs swap players

MIRAA
July 20th, 2015 21:01

Titan have announced via their website that they have signed Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux and Richard "shox" Papillon from EnVyUs, who take Kenny "kennyS" Schrub and Dan "apEX" Madesclaire in return.

The two organisations had been locked in talks for almost a week regarding a transfer, despite Kenny "kennyS" Schrub and Dan "apEX" Madesclaire having already agreed terms with EnVyUs.

An agreement has now been reached between the two parties, with Titan stating that the move will "better both teams."


apEx and kennyS move to EnVyUs 

EnVyUs decided to part ways with Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux and Richard "shox" Papillon with hopes of going back to the level of form that saw them win DreamHack Winter last year while still under LDLC. This year, the French team have won a number of international titles, but Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer's men have always come short at the big events.

"Today I am leaving Titan for a new challenge," Schrub said in a statement. "I am enthusiastic for the future, but at the same time nostalgic of what I leave behind.

"Even beyond the game, Titan remains one of my best adventures when it comes to people and I am not ready to forget it.

"I really appreciated these 15 months surrounded by everyone who made this team work, thanking them and wishing them the best of luck in the future!"

Titan will hope that the injection of new blood will allow the team to stop the free fall in which they have been for several months now. Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans's men will have their first test with the new lineup this weekend, at the offline qualifier for ESL One Cologne, where they will face Gamers2 in the opening round.

"I am really eager to play with Kévin, Mathieu and Cédric," Papillon said. "We already know each other well but I also know that we've all grown these past months.

"We are returning to a four man lineup that has already proven itself in the past, and having someone like Mathieu on top of that can truly benefit us in and out of the game.

"I am confident in this team and I believe we hold all the cards in order to make this a success.

"Thanks to Titan for their confidence and thank you to our fans, I promise to give you my very best."

The move leaves EnVyUs and Titan with the following lineups:

Titan EnVyUs
Belgium Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans France Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt
Switzerland Mathieu "Maniac" Quiquerez France Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer
France Cédric "RpK" Guipouy France Fabien "kioShiMa" Fiey
France Richard "shox" Papillon France Kenny "kennyS" Schrub
France Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux France Dan "apEX" Madesclaire

Related video:

France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1427
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
974
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1161
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1371
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Switzerland Mathieu 'Maniac' Quiquerez
Mathieu 'Maniac' Quiquerez
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
827
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1368
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1261
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.16
Belgium Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1289
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.16
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1145
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1372
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.11
#2
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Europe dzr! 
nice gl
2015-07-20 21:02
#35
allu | 
Finland ebinzzi 
top 1 team inc
2015-07-20 21:03
w0w n1
2015-07-20 21:05
I knew that since envy had problems at lans..
2015-07-20 21:11
oh wow did u realy know that? Good job m9, u very smart hltv member.
2015-07-20 21:13
troll detected
2015-07-20 21:26
troll comment = troll response "I knew that since envy had problems at lans.." everyone did u retard
2015-07-20 21:31
lel
2015-07-20 22:32
All players are very young to no coach. I will give team semi good results in the beginning to worse results in a few months and finally another drama and changes in roster.
2015-07-20 22:44
and kinguin to pick one or two players ==D
2015-07-21 00:42
#538
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France bouni45 
Without trolling i really think one of the two line up will go to the final in cologne against fnatic (just a feeling) Titan will be stronger and envyus as well
2015-07-21 00:53
lol, cologne will be c9 vs. tsm. fnatic can even go out in groups if c9 will be there. Imagine this: -fnatic -keyd -c9 -clg/renegades/titan and bo1. btw. anyone with c9 will in his group will be very unlucky
2015-07-21 01:33
lololololol
2015-07-21 01:44
#625
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Slovakia DLG Inspire 
C9? wut... FNC will be prepared with tons of strats and shit just like for Katowice, NiP has the potential too to get top4, nV idk(we will see) Navi is able too to beat c9 easily,and ye tsm to finals
2015-07-21 09:34
everyone will be prepared and those teams shoved they can rape fnatic as they did it in the past. at cologne groups will be uneven as fuck and in a group of death any result will be possible.
2015-07-21 15:04
apex and kennys are known for loosing their cool, if the other 3 players can help them to keep calm and focus more it would be a disaster indeed. But about titan i'm a bit skeptical and it's a personnal opinion
2015-07-21 02:11
I really doubt that. NaVi has performed better recently (also individually) and TSM will be a full time pro team for the first time at Cologne, which means they will have had much more time to play and prepare for the tournament.
2015-07-21 10:10
I think nV just needs a coach imo
2015-07-21 08:01
lel , maybe they didnt have reason/motivation. dreamhack 2014? esl one 2015? look how good they were I only miss envy 5 very good players it would be better: - shox + kennys
2015-07-21 09:21
why would you ever take smithzz an awper who is not even decent at it for shox an all rounder but mainly rifler for a main awper
2015-07-21 09:34
+1, -smithz +kennyS. Although in fairness to this shox has been really off on his game. If he got back to his godly level I'd rather have -smithz, - kio, + kennyS +Apex.
2015-07-21 13:45
Better than envy I'd definitely say. Or actually that totally depends on who leaves Titan. Okay they entire news just came out. I really wanted to see both kennys, apex and shox on ex6tenz team, but it went the way most of us thought..
2015-07-20 21:07
2015-07-20 21:06
9gag steals from reddit? Hmm thats new.
2015-07-20 21:09
titan better than envy with this lineup? are you fucking drunk? ohh wait nip fanboy that explains all
2015-07-20 21:32
You are so fucking stupid. "Or actually that totally depends on who leaves Titan." This was before the whole news was out so it was only confirmed that shox and smithz are joining Titan. If they would've exchanged with maniac and rpk for example Titan would've been much better. But it didn't happen.
2015-07-20 21:35
dude not like we all knew what would happen since almost a week
2015-07-20 21:37
It wasn't 100% confirmed no.
2015-07-20 21:51
Well, we all knew what will happen. So yeah, we knew it 100%.
2015-07-20 22:17
It wasnt confirmed by them. Far more shocking things has hsppened then if the rumors wouldve been false
2015-07-20 22:28
Actually it was confirmed from the start from one of the nV players. Insider info.
2015-07-20 22:40
lol it was confirmed...kenny and apex already signed a deal with nv about a week ago, nv was just finalizing the deal with titan (money, paperwork, etc..)
2015-07-21 00:18
richard lewis talks a lot of shit, and he says a lot of stuff to get attention and creates rumours and what not, but the article he created was quite clearly not made up. he wouldnt go so low as to create a fake source.
2015-07-21 10:46
Don't bother to back yourself up. You didn't read his comment correctly
2015-07-20 22:26
Kappa Titan got better and NV just got worse unless Kenny can be old kenny
2015-07-20 21:07
He will never be the old kenny, unless valve revert the AWP back.
2015-07-20 21:09
+1 old envy lineup > new lineup.
2015-07-20 21:13
they need some adderall and they will be top1
2015-07-20 21:29
Considering adderall have been used in esports and sport in general for many years now. I'm confident the french have used in the past as well. C9 is just the flavor of the month.
2015-07-21 00:12
They need it to keep up with EU
2015-07-21 00:59
I feel like people dont realise almost every pro in big money esports uses it? Are you guys really that daft?
2015-07-21 02:46
Nah I just like pissing off north americans
2015-07-21 21:25
I dont care if c9 is not te only team using adderall. The problem is, the competition is not based on who have better adderal xD come at me
2015-07-21 09:05
#620
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Netherlands [Np]KNz 
its not ? 3 finals in a row ? It's very clear who has the best Adder ! If I had c9's adder i'd be playing in TSM !!!!
2015-07-21 09:18
You don't even have a proper thought out argument... If it's a childish 5 year old argument you want then look at my previous posts and decern for yourself whether or not you're worthy to even try me.
2015-07-21 10:34
oh yeah, let everyone get adderal so we have true competition? xD its not fair to have doping and others not, so get outta here
2015-07-21 10:36
But other have been doping for years... Don't think adderall is something new that only c9 knows about. He'll even the Seattle seahawks have used it StarCraft, dota, and league. Nt gypsies but move onto the next argument like a settlement becuase you lost.
2015-07-21 20:26
and you think its fine to play with it??? xDDDD im pretty sure if c9 wasnt the team acused for playing with adderal u wont even write in this thread lmao
2015-07-21 20:37
I could care less about c9 I'm simply try to get the point across that adderall is a common thing among pros. By the same token! I bet if my flag wasn't American you would bother to try to start and argument you can't win. Typical gypsie trying to pick his spots against unsuspecting prey and falling short when they prey knowing your motives. You can't win my friend I'm on another level.
2015-07-21 22:58
Increaser of reacction time and etc is a common thing for cs, sadly. That was point and you've started trashtalking me, lol. And btw, dont call me gypsie, because the both nations are pretty different and the only one common thing is that they live on our earth, and you look stupid.
2015-07-21 23:10
Don't be mad at me because you keep on ground due to the lack of housing.
2015-07-21 23:47
if you are serious. i fucking agree i think titan looks better on paper than envy:P since kenny aint so good with awp he's going to play more with m4/ak which his decent on but definetly not the best:P Kenny good JW bestest.
2015-07-20 22:02
When have I not been serious!?
2015-07-21 00:10
-.- kenny just was alone in titan, are they going to win match or not depended only on him : if he had bad day or good, maybe sometimes apex helped... now kenny has a really strong teammates and it can be even team who can face against fnatic.
2015-07-21 09:17
probly just as bad as b4
2015-07-21 11:26
RIP shox He'll kill himself playing with that team
2015-07-20 21:09
I disagree. I think this shuffle heavily benefits Titan and Shox in particular. This will allow him to return to his star player role and I think we'll see the Shox of 2013-14 that was just rekting everyone. The rest of the team is the perfect lineup to support him IMO. Titan might even consider letting go of Maniac or RPK to bring in some fresh talent from one of the LDLC's or something. also inb4 Titan > nV post shuffle
2015-07-20 21:14
Of course he'll be the star player - because his teammates just are not on the same level. He'll carry them, but won't carry them far enough.
2015-07-20 21:22
+1 i always thought ex6 needs to go coach and someone with more fragging capability takes his role in the team.
2015-07-20 22:04
+1 this
2015-07-21 03:18
#395
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Macau fAKEEEE 
It's like s1mple in flipside.
2015-07-20 22:16
or fox in k1ck?
2015-07-21 06:12
#696
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Macau fAKEEEE 
Maybe... You know.
2015-07-21 23:57
Inb4 they dont qualify for esl cologne
2015-07-20 21:25
+mathend
2015-07-21 00:01
NBK basicaly confirmed what we all thought; shox is lazy as fuck these days and will never get back to his 'star player role'.
2015-07-21 01:40
No french team has won something big without shox and I doubt that will change.
2015-07-20 22:45
#274
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France NGHTk1ng 
Now Shox is here to carry Titan and now Kenny is going to carry EnVyUs
2015-07-20 21:27
#397
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Macau fAKEEEE 
The carry of nV was happy, no shox before the change LDLC-nV
2015-07-20 22:16
EnVyUs has a solid team overall now.
2015-07-20 22:53
#572
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China Ava1ondraGon 
KennyS is gonna have fewer freedom in Envy which is a good team, so he cant peek anywhere he want.
2015-07-21 03:10
He can't, but he also doesn't need to.
2015-07-21 03:38
i remember when verygames swapped kennys with smithzz:D i lmao'd and rofl'd
2015-07-20 23:33
stfu trashbk
2015-07-21 02:39
#3
nibke | 
World Kalth1 
here it is
2015-07-20 21:02
Expected.
2015-07-20 21:03
Yup, just waiting for nV's announcement...
2015-07-20 21:03
#74
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Japan enos 
its done on kennys fb page ,he just said he left for nv
2015-07-20 21:05
rip
2015-07-20 21:02
true smithzz ruining shox's career once again... -smithz +kenny and nV would be unstoppable
2015-07-20 21:37
U mean titan?
2015-07-21 00:06
#544
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Macau fAKEEEE 
+1
2015-07-21 01:02
just + kennys for nv and they will be unstoppable - nobody couse nv has 5 very good players :P
2015-07-21 09:27
If he is unmotivated and doesn't care he is ruining it himself.
2015-07-21 09:56
xD
2015-07-20 21:02
n1
2015-07-20 21:02
OMFG
2015-07-20 21:02
ayy
2015-07-20 21:02
noise
2015-07-20 21:02
#11
suNny | 
Finland m1skaa 
very expected
2015-07-20 21:02
#12
World ba$e 
shox to become god again under ex6
2015-07-20 21:03
+10000
2015-07-20 21:03
I hope
2015-07-20 21:05
If the team want to succeed they need the god shox, maybe even more than that
2015-07-20 21:14
-apex +shox and we have french dreamteam and the best :D
2015-07-20 21:18
True hermano
2015-07-20 21:20
But we don't know if it'll be work for true bcause team chemistry > line-up on paper imho amigo :D
2015-07-20 21:21
« I am really eager to play with Kévin, Mathieu and Cédric. We already know each other well but I also know that we've all grown these past months. We are returning to a four man lineup that has already proven itself in the past, and having someone like Mathieu on top of that can truly benefit us in and out of the game. I am confident in this team and I believe we hold all the cards in order to make this a success. Thanks to Titan for their confidence and thank you to our fans, I promise to give you my very best. » - Richard "shox" Papillon
2015-07-20 21:07
#130
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Spain akproxx 
What a lier
2015-07-20 21:08
Titan win the next event and will forever lose after that.
2015-07-20 21:07
Then Maniac get vacbanned and they miss the last major of the year.
2015-07-21 06:27
Major won by EnvyUs
2015-07-21 10:35
Then they bring in retired player to replace Maniac, shox get 30 bombs every match but they still lose. Kappa
2015-07-21 11:05
+1
2015-07-22 21:41
obvious
2015-07-20 21:02
HYPE
2015-07-20 21:02
rip shox fanbois
2015-07-20 21:02
What I'm happy with that move for him, there are more chances to see him become the god he was in 2013 than playing with Happy
2015-07-20 21:17
#436
Bulgaria sN7 
Yes! And if he joins a pub team, he will be a fucking reK machine that no one can stop!
2015-07-20 22:41
Thats the beauty of titan! Its unique! Its a teir 1 pub team
2015-07-20 23:55
and why the fuck wouldnt he be a god with happy? happy is calling the general idea of the round, then he fucks off to the other site of the map. shox then has all the freedom to do the rest as he pleases. and they dont even play any spots together on ct sides usually. ever thought that maybe shox just wasnt a god bcs he isnt a god anymore? and yes, i know he will be by far the best player in titan. thats bcs they have 4 shitters next to him.
2015-07-21 10:52
Because Happy calls didn't fit shox's playstyle just like his roll entry fragger
2015-07-21 11:49
he called himself for quite a while. and how does a call not fit a playstyle lol. cs isnt as complex as u think.
2015-07-21 12:18
Cs is more complex than u think, and when he called he played wayyyy better than happy calling just saying
2015-07-21 15:24
hes just inconsistent af dude get ovr it.
2015-07-22 01:12
#719
shox | 
Canada dB- 
Because Happy's style put shox into playstyles he wasn't comfortable with, but he did it for the team (Happy's decision didn't maximise shox's strengths) For example, shox under Happy was the 1st one to rush a site and therefore the first to die, when shox is known for being an amazing mid-round caller and clutcher
2015-07-23 16:04
thats a very naive way to look at it.
2015-07-23 16:31
oo!!!
2015-07-20 21:02
lmao
2015-07-20 21:02
najs!
2015-07-20 21:02
#21
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Ukraine petruska 
top kek
2015-07-20 21:02
Default kek
2015-07-20 21:15
Cool
2015-07-20 21:02
one day, i hope i will see shox+kennys in one team.
2015-07-20 21:02
French national team last year
2015-07-20 21:14
A proper team.
2015-07-21 01:03
sign xantares plz
2015-07-20 21:02
No place for a top50 player in the world mate.
2015-07-20 21:16
You misspelled 500 but it's okay m8 it happens
2015-07-20 21:18
5000* m8
2015-07-21 05:09
Sorry my bad i said it happens
2015-07-21 08:06
#25
swag | 
Latvia `DinGo 
Unexpected kek
2015-07-20 21:02
#26
Germany Labi 
ITS HAPPENING
2015-07-20 21:02
#27
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
NO KENNYS + SHOX QQ
2015-07-20 21:02
Wow unexpected
2015-07-20 21:02
#29
frozen | 
Slovakia ArtFull 
expected
2015-07-20 21:02
gg
2015-07-20 21:02
n1 from north korea
2015-07-20 21:03
GL guys, even knowing it for 99%, that they will fail, I'm happy, that shox is there, anyway.
2015-07-20 21:03
delete my post all you want
2015-07-20 21:03
OMG TOP 1 GUYS. HOLY SHIT I'M CRYING
2015-07-20 21:03
Top1 for t3
2015-07-20 21:05
who knows
2015-07-20 21:06
7-1
2015-07-21 04:44
rip titan
2015-07-20 21:03
hahaha
2015-07-20 21:03
shox beast mode activated.
2015-07-20 21:03
1
2015-07-20 21:03
2015-07-20 21:03
Rip shox never gonna be at the top with that line up ...
2015-07-20 21:03
I hope they qualify for Cologne, good luck.
2015-07-20 21:03
3/5 members last major while being not a new team in majors = instant qualifying.. right?
2015-07-20 22:13
Top 8 gets invited, Titan finished 12-16th with the Ex6/Mani/RPK core. They need to qualify. NV are good to go though.
2015-07-20 22:15
so they are not safe in?
2015-07-22 10:44
What do you mean
2015-07-22 10:55
xd
2015-07-20 21:03
titan tier 3 team? I arent think that
2015-07-20 21:03
#720
shox | 
Canada dB- 
They don't deserve like this, they don't deserve for rekt - pasza
2015-07-23 16:05
ITS HAPPENING
2015-07-20 21:03
Great I think
2015-07-20 21:03
#47
Poland hqs- 
WOOOOOOOOOW
2015-07-20 21:03
WOT
2015-07-20 21:03
expected
2015-07-20 21:03
Its like shox in Epsilon. One good guy and 4 noobs. gg.
2015-07-20 21:03
kioshima was good
2015-07-20 21:06
fxy0 was either
2015-07-20 21:12
yeah, true
2015-07-20 21:13
SF was good Kappa
2015-07-20 21:25
indeed haha
2015-07-20 21:26
"was either" XDDDDDDDDDDD
2015-07-21 08:23
gl guys! :)
2015-07-20 21:03
kinguin shox dream is over :(
2015-07-20 21:03
expected as fuk
2015-07-20 21:03
unexpected kappa
2015-07-20 21:03
gG
2015-07-20 21:03
gl shoxie
2015-07-20 21:03
NICE
2015-07-20 21:04
#65
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Norway throatslit 
Expected
2015-07-20 21:04
so titan is more fucked now LOL
2015-07-20 21:04
#67
allu | 
United States SuFixT 
I AM HARD ASF NOW No one will see this
2015-07-20 21:04
even hard it is clearly too small to see anything
2015-07-20 21:36
cyka bylat
2015-07-21 01:26
Finally, nv bye bye, ez titan. C9 again t2
2015-07-20 21:04
#69
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Sweden Trojka03 
[*] for Titan F
2015-07-20 21:04
#70
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Turkey powergs 
ITS HAPPENINNNNNNG gl anyway shox and smithzz my fav french players
2015-07-20 21:04
lol at shox fanboys but for real, i think shox will go godmode again under ex6
2015-07-20 21:04
HYPE IS REAL
2015-07-20 21:04
will be the best french team
2015-07-20 21:05
More like he will shine because they are all low?
2015-07-21 14:44
je suis un chateau
2015-07-20 21:05
ik ben een kasteel
2015-07-20 21:06
gl titan
2015-07-20 21:05
#78
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Bulgaria vilgax0000 
rip shox and smithzzz
2015-07-20 21:05
i wonder if it lasts long. cant see them winning as much as old envy us did
2015-07-20 21:05
Who will leave Titan?
2015-07-20 21:05
FAKKK YEAH!!! all shox needs to do now is go god mode again and anally penetrate the scene like he used to <3
2015-07-20 21:05
#82
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Brazil RisenNTC 
nice gl
2015-07-20 21:05
#84
Norway osmm 
Interesting.. Looking forward to the entire news.
2015-07-20 21:05
Omg GL
2015-07-20 21:05
Expected
2015-07-20 21:06
expected
2015-07-20 21:06
denied kennys + shox dreamteam but hey shox will still have his best bud right guys
2015-07-20 21:06
+1
2015-07-20 21:07
great news for envy on paper. kennys might be just what the doctor ordered.
2015-07-20 21:09
maybe but i don't think apex can play shox's role, he is too inconsistent for that.
2015-07-20 21:10
Too much tosspot m8?
2015-07-20 21:32
fuck I sound just like him
2015-07-20 22:55
quite obvious that shox doesn't wanna play with happy
2015-07-20 22:00
apex is better then shox
2015-07-20 23:40
gl shox
2015-07-20 21:06
#96
Sweden 1up' 
Titan will be still t2 team tho
2015-07-20 21:06
ul
2015-07-20 21:06
gl
2015-07-20 21:06
#100
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Ukraine TRANEdAK1nG 
ez titan
2015-07-20 21:06
inb4 Titan > nV
2015-07-20 21:06
rip bst french team
2015-07-20 21:06
shox + 4 bots Kappa
2015-07-20 21:06
SHUFFLE CALL THE POLICE
2015-07-20 21:06
inb4 new EnVyUS will struggle and Titan will be new top1 team
2015-07-20 21:06
Looking forward to seeing both teams in action. Can Shox replace Kenny in Titans carry department?
2015-07-20 21:07
#111
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Denmark b0ychild 
Cant wait for the first match between these 2 :D
2015-07-20 21:07
THE DREAM TEAM IS HERE! ENVYUS IS ABOUT TO KICK SOME ASS!
2015-07-20 21:07
GG rest of the CSGO scene
2015-07-20 21:07
#115
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Sweden Trojka03 
NBK Vlog on why EnVyUs changed their roster. youtube.com/watch?v=X4wE-2Uzaw8
2015-07-20 21:07
#142
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Brazil RisenNTC 
ty for posting it here
2015-07-20 21:09
why am i watching a dm the whole time, wtf
2015-07-20 21:10
#168
 | 
Sweden Trojka03 
Watch NBK instead :D
2015-07-20 21:12
#189
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Germany pr9ud 
basically blaming shox
2015-07-20 21:15
#209
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Sweden Trojka03 
Kinda expected. According to this, SmithZz is totally Shoxies b*tch.
2015-07-20 21:18
as usual NBKcry say shit crying and now a liar hate this guy
2015-07-20 22:55
#116
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Russia KygecHukx 
-apex + shox , best france team
2015-07-20 21:07
envy top1
2015-07-20 21:07
GL!
2015-07-20 21:07
YEES Finally shox and smithz back to home <3 gl boyz
2015-07-20 21:07
#122
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
[*] for shox and his bot team
2015-07-20 21:07
Shox instead apex in EnVy and life would be better
2015-07-20 21:08
zomg!!! That's gonna be interesting! Omg!
2015-07-20 21:11
How will these teams turn out?!?! Interesting to wonder...
2015-07-20 21:08
who ?
2015-07-20 21:08
there is going to be no difference,apex is shit, overrated as fuck and kennys isn't at his best form right now
2015-07-20 21:15
+1
2015-07-20 21:29
cool
2015-07-20 21:09
Nice swap,I expect Titan to be better now.
2015-07-20 21:09
OMG
2015-07-20 21:09
+1
2015-07-20 21:09
#134
Norway Mkj 
this team will die after cologne
2015-07-20 21:09
niceeeee
2015-07-20 21:09
OMLG KENNY
2015-07-20 21:09
RIp.
2015-07-20 21:09
totally not expected
2015-07-20 21:10
Pls Titan beat EnVy next time they meet!!!!
2015-07-20 21:10
not expected
2015-07-20 21:10
One top3, one top8, now two top 5 teams?
2015-07-20 21:10
LETS MAKE IT 1000 comments
2015-07-20 21:11
Such a downgrade for Titan really
2015-07-20 21:11
i bet you follow cs scene for max 6 months...
2015-07-20 22:47
2 years and several months for now, whats up?
2015-07-20 22:51
:D interesting to make this statement and follow the scene for this long....thought this could say only rokiee :D
2015-07-20 22:58
-rpk + KQLY plz
2015-07-20 21:11
-apex +shox will be better but.. titan have no chance 4sure its just shox and sometimes smithz and maniac
2015-07-20 21:11
#159
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Russia Frutttis 
gl shoxieJESUS
2015-07-20 21:11
interesting
2015-07-20 21:11
hmm, still have k1o. if shox stay would be a good team for envyus
2015-07-20 21:12
titan > nv
2015-07-20 21:12
titan should get rid of rpk and maniac
2015-07-20 21:12
and get........?
2015-07-20 21:39
Maniac performs good on LAN....
2015-07-20 22:21
Swingers party Gl envy
2015-07-20 21:12
"French Couples 2" ROFL
2015-07-20 21:17
fully French team nice
2015-07-20 21:12
But I just want kenny and shox on same team
2015-07-20 21:12
Titan are so fucking stupid. Ex6tenz to coach and IGL, and pick best rifler available in FR instead of him so they would have chance
2015-07-20 21:12
#170
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El Salvador jayss 
Titan > EnvyUs
2015-07-20 21:13
both tier 2
2015-07-20 21:13
NV's TOP 1 again?! PogChamp
2015-07-20 21:13
Titan top1 *
2015-07-20 21:34
#175
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Brazil akak1 
envyus top 1
2015-07-20 21:13
#177
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Yugoslavia Valentin^ 
Expected nice changes GL :D French scene is not dead xD
2015-07-20 21:14
I think Titan will do better now :)
2015-07-20 21:14
Lets go titan!
2015-07-20 21:14
expected
2015-07-20 21:14
#182
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Sweden Trojka03 
Can't wait for Titan vs nV.
2015-07-20 21:14
Not sure who made out better this way. EnvyUs have a premium awper, but they lose a mad fragger. For the legions of EU fans that complain about the "drama" of NA shuffles, this one seems completely motivated by personality conflicts. If part of the mechanics of the trade was C9's Skadoodle out-awping them, sure. But there's a lot of other teams out there that do perfectly fine without a top-level awper. I guess we'll have to see. If all the players involved are happier this way, then who are any of us to question them? Perhaps with KennyS they lose the internal tension that Shox may or may not have brought? If this is a strong reason, EnvyUs may skyrocket straight up to the top-3 again.
2015-07-20 21:18
EnVyUs new top1 team inc rip shox ))
2015-07-20 21:14
#186
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Serbia dekizh =DD 
very nice teams indeed :)
2015-07-20 21:14
I came for this.
2015-07-20 21:15
damn it
2015-07-20 21:15
I wonder WHEN THE FUCK will Shox and Kenny play together
2015-07-20 21:15
surrender
2015-07-20 21:15
#196
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
shox + kennyS in one team? EVER?
2015-07-20 21:15
still bad team, nv come from good to worst.
2015-07-20 21:16
RIP FRANCE RIP....
2015-07-20 21:16
+shocks
2015-07-20 21:16
Smithz awping ability in recent months hasn't been particularity impressive. I still think Titan is one player away from becoming a T1 team again. Are there any decent/up-and-coming French/Belgian awpers out there? to1nou?
2015-07-20 21:17
-NBK +shox best possible french team.
2015-07-20 21:17
^this
2015-07-20 21:18
sick lineup for envyus titan tier2 sadly until rpk, ex6 and smithzz retire, and new blood come.
2015-07-20 21:17
Nobody is winner in this story
2015-07-20 21:18
+1
2015-07-20 21:49
-RpK + ScreaM
2015-07-20 21:18
Inb4 people realize how important shox trully was ;D
2015-07-20 21:18
kioshima and apex. shit nV is going to be inconsistent as fuck.
2015-07-20 21:22
lol i aren't think that
2015-07-20 21:20
we'll see. From what I have seen these are always like COMPLETE UTTER BULLSHIT or FUCKING GODMODE FRENZY. no middle point.
2015-07-20 21:23
apEX maybe, but that's because he and kenny have been the only ones who had to step up in order to win, that's an emmense amount of pressure, now they'll be surrounded by star players rather than bots, so this pressure is obviously going to be way less. Also k1o has been incredibly consistent lately, he's been pretty much the only one fragging on nV these last couple of months.
2015-07-20 21:25
apeX hasnt stepped up for months and months in a row.
2015-07-20 22:52
I guess you're just talking without watching any of titans matches then :)
2015-07-20 22:54
? lol go on, watch every single titan lan match and come up with numbers about apeX's recent performances, i dare you ;)
2015-07-20 23:57
"Some decent numbers", but thats not what's expected from him and kennyS. People expect way more of them, maybe I am being mislead by his performances online which were... super bad to say the least.
2015-07-21 00:33
Yeah, but you said he didn't do shit for several months in a row, this is clear proof he has what it takes to step up, however what he, and the whole of the old titan lacked, is consistency, I feel like this wont be as much of a problem in EnVyUs because now they have 5 players who ALL can step up when needed, in the old titan it was pretty much only apEX and kennyS and on some rare occasions Maniac had an insane game aswell.
2015-07-21 00:54
rip titan even more xD shox will have to carry big time
2015-07-20 21:19
Happy now can happily assult !
2015-07-20 21:18
-Maniac +to1nou
2015-07-20 21:19
shoxie, SmithZz and RpK again in same team. wow youtube.com/watch?v=7zU4kdZPhzE Need krL tho :<<
2015-07-20 21:19
#393
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Bulgaria alelisande 
what was the full lineup?
2015-07-20 22:15
krL, SmithZz, mateOo, RpK, shox
2015-07-21 00:35
#677
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Bulgaria alelisande 
ah mateOo... what happened with him????
2015-07-21 18:16
Played for Superstars in early 2013, dunno whats happening with him now. I think he retired
2015-07-21 18:22
#735
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Bulgaria b0xeR4et0 
VG 2011 ex6 shox smithzzz rpk nbk They were unreachable with that lineup. Too bad shox was immature and he took his boyfriend smithzzz with him
2015-07-26 00:40
+1337 good luck both teams!
2015-07-20 21:19
expected Kappa
2015-07-20 21:19
expected
2015-07-20 21:19
#225
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Poland Greavick 
now we will see Titan > EnVyUS in few weeks :)
2015-07-20 21:19
#235
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Brazil RisenNTC 
kappa
2015-07-20 21:20
ok
2015-07-20 21:20
EnvyUS wins esl cologne hltv confirmed
2015-07-20 21:20
titan>envy
2015-07-20 21:20
#231
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Peru unfaithful93 
Titan TOP 1 Confirmed
2015-07-20 21:20
Happy is Happy
2015-07-20 21:20
New line up confirmed : Get_right f0rest Xizt shox SmithzZ
2015-07-20 21:20
Rip Titan, seems like a dead team at this point.
2015-07-20 21:21
EnVyUS #1 soon
2015-07-20 21:21
DREAMTEAM : shox kennyS ScreaM apEX Happy
2015-07-20 21:21
n1
2015-07-20 21:22
wtf shox? Why titan? shox > all titan
2015-07-20 21:22
gl
2015-07-20 21:22
thats almost the old KennyS LDLC i loved <3
2015-07-20 21:23
I think Titan could be better than Envy
2015-07-20 21:23
expected
2015-07-20 21:23
Envy will be top 1. in world,with this lu. <3
2015-07-20 21:23
i really really really like titan's new lineup
2015-07-20 21:25
if envy works as TEAM, nobody can stop them, top1 team incoming
2015-07-20 21:25
NICEEEEEEEEEEEE
2015-07-20 21:25
TITAN>ENVY big time now
2015-07-20 21:26
french final incoming boiz.
2015-07-20 21:26
NOOOOOO!! kennyS!!! WHY!! #titan
2015-07-20 21:26
#269
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Argentina Zyven 
I dont like Happys playstyle, i will miss shox with nbk and kioshima :'( Shox will have to carry by himself
2015-07-20 21:26
titan > envy
2015-07-20 21:27
RIP French teams now, rip their chances ton win except if KennyS and Apex are on point at the same time and we know that's impossible so...
2015-07-20 21:27
Worse then before now.
2015-07-20 21:27
who?
2015-07-20 21:27
It's like getting back with your ex and hoping it will work out this time
2015-07-20 21:29
Titan -Maniac and its gonna be one of the best teams in the world
2015-07-20 21:29
expected
2015-07-20 21:29
#281
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Russia Reph 
ez pz Envy
2015-07-20 21:29
Envy super stronk
2015-07-20 21:29
#284
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United States Tryx[M] 
maybe nV can take a map off of C9 now #kappa
2015-07-20 21:29
-kioshima +me envy top1
2015-07-20 21:30
titan has no awp now, gonna be the same problem envy was having towards the end. envy really won in this deal despite having to give up shox.
2015-07-20 21:30
#300
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Germany PhoenixD!!! 
Smithzz is an awper he just couldnt awp in envy because happy always picked it up
2015-07-20 21:32
No he is a bad awper and simply relied on the old OP CZ to carry him like a wannabe JW. Happy picked up the awp because without OP CZ smithz sucked balls. too bad happy sucks with awp too
2015-07-20 21:36
#362
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Germany PhoenixD!!! 
Actually smithzz isnt that bad with the awp
2015-07-20 21:59
he is a good awper tbh
2015-07-21 01:34
Americans usually are pretty ignorant about eu scene, they watch 1 or 2 games and make conclusions about a player.
2015-07-21 09:40
All of you are ignorant about your own scene. Smithzz is a garbage awper. The only reason hey had him awp in the first place was because there was literally no other role he fit in.
2015-07-21 15:39
#594
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Romania WOTAN 
Maybe they bring fxcarry0 after his ban expires . He and shox on Epsilon where rekting teams left and right.
2015-07-21 06:20
#287
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Europe L1nKas. 
Kenny rek thoose scrubs!
2015-07-20 21:30
WTF IS GOING ON RIP CSGO
2015-07-20 21:30
#290
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Germany PhoenixD!!! 
Inhb this new titan lineup will be god like and kennys cries to come back
2015-07-20 21:31
nice,gl
2015-07-20 21:31
Wondering how fast are they going to be eliminated in Cologne...
2015-07-20 21:31
both teams benefited from that imo
2015-07-20 21:31
shox is fucked
2015-07-20 21:32
#296
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Israel TalOs 
it's so obvious that Nv's real solution should have been to replace happy with ex6, oh well their real problem is the lack of an igl and maybe they will have a good month or two but then the same problems will come up again.
2015-07-20 21:32
#388
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Germany PhoenixD!!! 
Thats the exact same thing i thought too shox and smithzz actually wanted to kick happy
2015-07-20 22:13
I think the Titan lineup is stronger... those 4, with the exception of Maniac have played together for like 6 years on and on. From the old VERYGAMES of CSS, to CSGO. Both teams are solid, and I think they will both honestly rape.
2015-07-20 21:32
They will be top 2 teams IMO
2015-07-20 21:32
RIP French top lineup
2015-07-20 21:33
#305
k0nfig | 
Hungary kruam 
50% of community expected since eswc
2015-07-20 21:33
rip titan
2015-07-20 21:33
So, according to NBK's VLOG youtube.com/watch?v=X4wE-2Uzaw8 posted previously, Happy is gonna be their main caller, like he always was in his previous teams (and that teams worked really well), and apEX will build their attacks, being something like a caller of T-side executions, basically apEX is gonna build the whole attack around himself, which looks good, taking into account, that apEX is their openfragger. Although I still have some doubts concerning their chances to compete with TSM, fnatic and Cloud9 (ScreaM also said, that the new nV seem to not work out great enough), I'm really excited to see their matches, hopefully they will bring their "status" back, because having many teams to compete for titles is much better than having only 1-2 very strong teams, that have no problems vs every other team. If you ask me of their chances to be successful, I'd say it's like 80%. It's lower than with their previous lineup [on paper], but shox tends to destroy his teams with his attutide, so may be they will be even stronger, than they were at DHW-2014. As for Titan - well, for them to be able to become a tier2 team (in the real meaning of it, and not in the meaning of salaries or tournament attending rate or any shit like that) again, they need RpK to finally step it up. Having Maniac in their team, that plays a role of a lurker, RpK isn't allowed to suck, because there is also SmithZz, that may hit his AWP shots, but also may underperform, that's why you need 4 guys to play out of their minds for the team to win vs their tier1 opponents. Now they have only shox and sometimes Maniac as their solid rifle fraggers, while Ex6 and RpK tend to suck usually. If RpK steps it up, Titan can even be a top contender at big tournaments, otherwise they will fail as usual.
2015-07-20 21:34
#401
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
didn't read lol
2015-07-20 22:18
very nice analysis as long as is this game only about amount of frags :)
2015-07-20 22:51
Ty, was a great read.
2015-07-21 01:16
apex has the same role as he had in titan.
2015-07-21 01:35
#308
Spain fd` 
we already knew that's gonna happen
2015-07-20 21:34
#311
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Brazil yxkz 
it would be really funny if Titan started winning tournaments and envyus not really improving much
2015-07-20 21:34
titan will be the better team.
2015-07-20 21:35
Rip fnatic
2015-07-20 21:36
Honestly with this shuffle both team wont stand a chance a against tsm/fnatic/c9.
2015-07-20 21:36
Shox destroy this team when he decided to be igl. gj idiot. bad changes for nv.
2015-07-20 21:37
go back tetris kid befor shox IGL (april & begin may) NV lost all games when shox igl (end may and june) they win around 18/20 and reached qualifications ESL/ESEA and others. and then happy come back IGL and they lose everything
2015-07-20 22:59
Shox only takes the ingame leader role when he feels his ingame leader his dogshit. Have you ever seen shox ingame lead with Ex6 on the team? Or KRL in source?
2015-07-21 09:43
despacio
2015-07-20 21:37
YES FINALLY, KENNY FUCKING YES.
2015-07-20 21:38
envy strong lineup. :)
2015-07-20 21:39
I dont fucking understand a single word when NBK speaks english
2015-07-20 21:39
T'es mauvais c'est tout. Ou de mauvaise foi. Ou les deux.
2015-07-20 22:55
+1
2015-07-21 04:26
the hopes that kennys and shox will play together oneday in a team. Times to wait another 6+ months for a new shuffle.
2015-07-20 21:39
Titan will achieve a lot more that envy with this line up changes
2015-07-20 21:40
you can say what you want about ex6 , but leading the previous team amd actually winning games is big. Also i think fnatic said somewhere that Titan and TSM are the only teams they are afraid of because titan is good at reading them. i really think titan will benefit from this and maybe in the future let maniac go and bring in some fresh bl000d.
2015-07-20 21:40
Hype hype hype looking forward for their first match
2015-07-20 21:40
inb4 Titan becomes better than NV. KennyS is better than SmithZz (not as much as before the AWP nerf...) but shox + SmithZz is a lot more stable than kennyS + aPEX ashe has 1 good game in every 10.
2015-07-20 21:41
-Kio + Shox -NBK +Scream French dream team
2015-07-20 21:42
kio / nbk > scream all the time
2015-07-20 21:43
2012/13 lol, scream hasn't been like that for a looong time. Nuff said.
2015-07-20 22:05
kio / nbk > scream all the time all the time all the time all the time all the time all the time all the time all the time
2015-07-20 22:05
You rekt him good, although I don't like Scream
2015-07-21 03:15
HELL NO
2015-07-20 21:48
I can't see the new nV being as successful as the old one
2015-07-20 21:42
True, but the results should be better than they were with the current line up.
2015-07-21 08:58
bl boes
2015-07-20 21:42
dont think it will make a difference, but certainly cant wait for matches!
2015-07-20 21:42
#345
 | 
Brazil mth^ 
+1
2015-07-20 21:47
titan need scream, shox+scream 2strong
2015-07-20 21:42
Maniac is medpack
2015-07-20 21:44
dream was dead (Shox+kennyS) but still nice
2015-07-20 21:44
finally <3
2015-07-20 21:45
both teams tier-2
2015-07-20 21:45
Shox will be a beast again in the hands of Ex6Tenz
2015-07-20 21:50
GL Titan :)
2015-07-20 21:52
Soon, Maniac out ScreaM in .. LOL , i think titan will do better now, and i think EnvY gonna top over the world again .
2015-07-20 21:52
great
2015-07-20 21:56
#359
EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife 
glgl
2015-07-20 21:57
wow
2015-07-20 21:57
Swap shox back (instead of Apex) and get t1 french team again.
2015-07-20 21:58
bad choice -shox, but gl!
2015-07-20 21:59
"And having someone like Mathieu on top of that can truly benefit us in and out of the game." I lold
2015-07-20 22:01
do you know what was maniac's RL job? imo no but i have to ask in advance...
2015-07-20 22:52
#368
 | 
Sweden Potaters 
ggggggggggggggg
2015-07-20 22:02
Good luck with kennyS and apEX!
2015-07-20 22:04
nice
2015-07-20 22:04
#380
World iJM 
im happy to see this new envyus line up because apex hes insanelly good LOVE IT <3
2015-07-20 22:08
nbk needs to learn what a "vlog" is rofl..
2015-07-20 22:05
everybody know he is a dumbass
2015-07-20 23:01
Both teams don't look that great .... Maybe the motivation boost will be enough but mehhh i'm not conviced
2015-07-20 22:05
4 bots in one team - impressive
2015-07-20 22:07
nV much stronger with that LU ; kennys will play far more better with apeX in that LU; he played not strong lately just because of team disagreement ... All of the weak links are in TiTan :X wtf is that ? only shox increases the level
2015-07-20 22:08
Yes, lol his team started to treat him bad right after the awp nerf thats why he started missing shots. Ofc some people will say the awp nerfed killed his awp but we know better than that. Kappa.
2015-07-21 09:46
Thorins sexy story came true youtu.be/YAKvP04itwE?t=24m00s
2015-07-20 22:09
-NBCry all the way. Looking forward to see this teams.
2015-07-20 22:09
Titan the Grandpas of Csgo.
2015-07-20 22:10
Titan is strong now, finnaly! Matter of a few months before shox and RpK dominate like they did in source+)
2015-07-20 22:10
EnVyUs top 1 again CONFIRMED.
2015-07-20 22:12
n1 Titan.
2015-07-20 22:12
Lol envyus will get rape so hard meanwhile titan will be raping fnatic #NOKAPPA
2015-07-20 22:16
holy shit that envyus roster looks crazy on paper :D
2015-07-20 22:15
hope titan steps it up love to see them play good
2015-07-20 22:16
Expected.
2015-07-20 22:18
Both teams will be better than they were right before this roster change.
2015-07-20 22:20
#406
 | 
Germany PhoenixD!!! 
Titan will play very good while envyus will suck in a few months another french shuffle where nbk and kio will go to titan again
2015-07-20 22:23
finally kenny will have good skins lol
2015-07-20 22:24
Wow. Envy struggles in 4-5 months and makes a drastic roster change. They get rid of their starplayer (yes I know he hasnt performed lately). Nip on the other hand have struggled for over 12 months and have only changed one core player (on permanent basis). The baguettes are real pros and Nip is some sort of friend mix who attends lan together.
2015-07-20 22:24
One of the things than made people like NiP on the first place, was than they were a bunch of friends playing togheter trying their best. Their are what we dreamed to be when we were kids with our friends. Now things have changed and eventually they will have to adapt at the way the scene is evolving, but it was a nice ride until now.
2015-07-20 22:32
#603
 | 
Serbia whoa!! 
+100 :(
2015-07-21 08:14
I would prefer to1nou instead of Smithzz on Titan but both needed changes even if doesn't look so good on paper. We need to remember than Titan (with KQLY in) was supposed to be the best french lineup on the previous shuffle and even when KQLY playing they were far away from the level LDLC reached on late 2014.
2015-07-20 22:25
Yea but KQLY fucked up :<
2015-07-20 22:28
Yes, but if you look back I don't see that Titan lineup going as far as LDLC went. Names by themselves will not make you win tournaments, you need a lot of other stuff to reach the top.
2015-07-20 22:35
actually they won the first dreamhack vs envy in the finals and looked impressive, beating fnatic 16-1 on d2 etc, you can't say such things because we have no idea what would've happened if it wasn't for kqly vac ban
2015-07-20 23:51
No one seems to take into account that kenny is also a fantastic rifler, happy also has awping capabilities so if kenny isn't performing happy can take over..
2015-07-20 22:26
good!
2015-07-20 22:26
NiP changes incoming next!
2015-07-20 22:26
v easily expected my friends. NV back to top3 soon with happy going back to calling sick executes instead of rush tactics. NV's lineup is sick. almost like TSM every player sick aim... p.s richard lewis & dailydot again breaking the inside info.
2015-07-20 22:33
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA RIP IN PIECE TITAN.
2015-07-20 22:28
Maybe it's time for Titan to shine?
2015-07-20 22:30
this team we will rock
2015-07-20 22:32
Didn't shoxie actually never liked/wanted to play with Ex6TenZ or something like that? If so, could anyone explain me why? Never being a fan of French scene. Is there a reason why actually apEX instead of shoxie? I guess that's because shoxie is a mate of SmithZz, so he decided to stay close to his mate instead of professional and succeed career? EnvyUs could be stronger actually. All they needed is change SmithZz for kennyS, that's it. I think it's a wrong move, especially for shoxie. Who is coach for both of teams?
2015-07-20 22:32
Yeah, Shox left because nV dropped SmithZz. I'm just annoyed Shox is downgrading himself and hurting his carrer for a friend. I mean that loyal and all but still.
2015-07-21 04:51
#633
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Germany PhoenixD!!! 
Actually afaik at eswc envy split up into 2 groups(shox+smithzz vs the rest of the team) shox anf smithzz wanted to kick happy but the rest was against it
2015-07-21 09:58
nV probably want to keep Shox, but he don't want to play in a team without Smithzz. They always stick together as far as i can remember. About the Shox and Ex6tenz problem, i remember it was sth related to his call. A strict IGL who want every members stick to the plan if i remember it right
2015-07-21 07:33
envyus>titan
2015-07-20 22:34
#431
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Hungary lemusz 
both crappy
2015-07-20 22:38
#434
Dosia | 
Russia cann0n 
bullshite Frenchy scene
2015-07-20 22:40
i got a feeling smithz will play better in Titan
2015-07-20 22:41
#438
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Poland camarpl 
shox and smithhz can't make Titan tier1 with rpk ex6 and maniac the doctor as for Envy, how will happy work with kenny? I don't know, too hard to judge, but I don't think they gonna be top5, for the next few months atleast
2015-07-20 22:42
Happy and kennys already play on the same team as recursive
2015-07-20 23:40
It won't change anything imo. They'll play the same shit because changing players so often doesn't give positive results.
2015-07-20 22:42
GL to both teams, they might need it
2015-07-20 22:42
#441
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Spain akproxx 
hahahaha shox fucking lier xDDD
2015-07-20 22:42
It won't change anything imo. They'll play the same shit because changing players so often doesn't give positive results. uh yes it will lol they are so good
2015-07-20 22:43
-rpk +to1nou
2015-07-20 22:44
im starting to slip onto the nV hype train...CHOO CHOO
2015-07-20 22:44
lol at all the people writing off envy because of last few months. can't wait to take all your skins.
2015-07-20 22:44
best time to get rid of shox, gg wp envyus :D they are a little bit stronger now
2015-07-20 22:50
kenny s will carry
2015-07-20 22:51
#456
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Turkey powergs 
I wish -Rpk and +Nbk but anyway im still thinking Titan would be better team nV had so many egoist player (happy nbk apEx)
2015-07-20 22:51
#470
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Iceland Splintex^ 
w0w dominating team inc.
2015-07-20 22:57
and KQLY?
2015-07-20 22:58
Now the question is which team will become better
2015-07-20 22:59
so excited for this!!! HYPUUUUUUUUUU
2015-07-20 23:05
Titan will be better.
2015-07-20 23:08
- maniac + ScreaM
2015-07-20 23:08
1st.
2015-07-20 23:13
envy looks hard now
2015-07-20 23:21
Titan top 1 france)
2015-07-20 23:22
well, we all knew, we were just waiting for the announcement. question now is who will be better?
2015-07-20 23:24
#498
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Azerbaijan M1R4CL3 
awesome lineup i think now ez chance reach top1 GL
2015-07-20 23:29
nice
2015-07-20 23:39
-shox +Ozstriker
2015-07-20 23:39
Titan can't lose a thing
2015-07-20 23:43
#507
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Russia cuba_libre10 
envyus still gonna be better. But I agree that both teams will probably improve
2015-07-20 23:45
Every time NBK pronounces probably as "probfjmqdskly" a puppy dies. [*] so many puppies
2015-07-20 23:49
Just like pasha "propaply"
2015-07-21 09:31
#672
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Greece hekzy 
That's taz
2015-07-21 15:54
No.
2015-07-21 19:14
#510
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Russia cuba_libre10 
Cant wait to see Titan vs Envyus in the future!
2015-07-20 23:52
rip titan
2015-07-20 23:53
Envy TOP 1
2015-07-20 23:53
well I hope it works out for envy, apex has proven he can play well in the past but hes been dreadful almost the entire time in Titan and KennyS is a little hit n miss and seems to always have been like this. as for titan well i dont know, shox & smithz are both great but ex6tenz seems to be holding that team back these days, it feels like he should take a couching role imho
2015-07-20 23:54
Titan > nV
2015-07-20 23:56
will not work, but good luck.
2015-07-20 23:56
pretty exciting stuff
2015-07-21 00:02
About bloody time. Smithzz has no place in a top team and shox clearly had attitude / motivation issues. These two should not have been on nv to begin with, so they just lost a year of progress? With the new lineup nv definitely has the talent to be no1.
2015-07-21 00:08
SmithZz is a very good player. He lacks skill, but he's extremely consistent and reliable. He's also very experienced and willing to do anything for his teammates (as he should). In my opinion he has a place in a top team, as he proved by winning multiple international tournaments during the most competitive era of CS:GO so far. Also, I don't think that winning a major and several international titles can be called "losing a year of progress". They could have achieved more, sure, but they did good nonetheless.
2015-07-21 08:35
the most competitve era .. is right now with all the pro players having 3k hours.. or some shit not in the beginning when the sourcers had the leg up.
2015-07-21 13:37
That's right. The beginning of the scene was a long time ago. A time I wasn't talking about. Unless you're arguing that 2014/2015 was "in the beginning" ?
2015-07-21 23:13
Being consistent is not good enough when you are consistently bad. Also, let's not forget that he cannot even begin to compete with the AWPs in other top teams. He was the weak spot in that team since it was created and continues to be one. CS is at such a competitive level where everyone needs to step up to win. You cannot have any laggards, playing 4v5 is futile. NV want to be the best and removing Smithzz is completely the right decision. Provided the chemistry is there, KennyS is exactly the right person to fill his role.
2015-07-22 08:52
SmithZz isn't bad. He's average (in terms of stats only), and average at the top of the scene no less. Being consistent at being average, in my opinion, can be an advantage over the mad fraggers who can have higher peaks but can also have a tendency to crumble more often. Consistency means people can rely on you more easily, even if they know you're not gonna go ham, they also know you'll do your job. Just ask yourself, why a player like SmithZz has always been in the french speaking teams who had the best results internationally, and was kept in the line-up for so long? He was in VG (since the beginning of the CS:GO scene), he was in Titan, he was in LDLC/nV, he's always been at the top of this scene. That's because french speaking players know what value he has. He wouldn't be there otherwise. There were several times when he could compete with the best awpers when he was given a consistent awping role (which wasn't often), and he can do fine without being an awper. He's certainly not defined as a primary awper anyway, so comparing him to the ones who get an awp every gun round is not very logical. He was only the weak spot skill wise, but he's always performed well in other areas. Arguing that they were playing 4v5 is being downright dishonest. Removing SmithZz is a defendable decision, yes. Getting rid of Shox in the process is certainly not. There were better things to do in my opinion than changing the roster anyway, but it seems like the team could only go so far together. As for KennyS fitting into his new team, I can't really say to be honest. Yes, the guy has huge talent and great skill, but so far his line-ups have never really been successful strangely (which is part of why he only got 6th place in 2014 despite topping the stats in most categories). Even back when he was in VG, they have only started to get better than NiP after kicking him. I have doubts about him getting nV to the top of the scene, but why not? It may be his time to really show what he can do.
2015-07-22 23:47
+1 Great post !
2015-07-23 09:19
Smithzz may be average at best, but average is clearly not good enough for a team that wants to be top1 again. This is unlikely to be achievable with Smithzz on a roaster when you are going up against the madfraggers of fnatic and other top teams like TSM and Na'Vi. NV has everything they need to win other than a roaster of pure raw skill. KennyS can definitely fill this gap. Whether the team will work out with him on the roaster remains to be seen.
2015-07-26 21:39
"Smithzz may be average at best, but average is clearly not good enough for a team that wants to be top1 again. " I explained why it can be good enough, and why it was.
2015-07-26 21:47
It was good enough at the point where the competition was not as fierce. Nowadays it simply does not cut it any more.
2015-07-26 21:53
It has been proved already that it was enough nowadays as well. SmithZz has been part of LDLC/nV, the most successful french speaking line-up ever (so far anyway). LDLC/nV is also one of the most successful line-ups of the CS:GO scene so far. I don't know what else you're asking of this player to prove that he belongs here. It's easy to see a player not fragging enough compared to his team, but when he's been part of the most successful teams of his country, it's easy to understand that there's more to this player than his fragging abilities.
2015-07-27 09:18
Eppiiiiiiiiic!!!!
2015-07-21 00:18
Oh but the French scene was just trolling us with this whole player swap reports right?
2015-07-21 00:19
soo titan now new envyus and envyus new titan lol !
2015-07-21 00:22
i see titan clearly losing with these changes..
2015-07-21 00:23
- kio + shox
2015-07-21 00:47
#540
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Denmark kaspeRztw 
-maniac + nbk
2015-07-21 00:54
Better changes for Titan !
2015-07-21 00:57
i really do like the hierarchy-thing
2015-07-21 01:00
nice
2015-07-21 01:10
nV is going to be SO FUCKIN GOOODDDDD
2015-07-21 01:15
#550
Ex6TenZ | 
World Negi9 
Titan HYPE
2015-07-21 01:24
wow
2015-07-21 01:25
nice
2015-07-21 01:33
nice
2015-07-21 01:41
#560
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Norway Thorstad 
All kennyS fanboys Will become nV fanboys
2015-07-21 02:00
hfhf Titan
2015-07-21 02:06
apEX KqlyS Happy NBKaniac KiuzziiMa It's the old old LDLC :O
2015-07-21 02:09
#673
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Greece hekzy 
hahahaha xD +111111111111111
2015-07-21 15:55
#564
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Russia Dmitrii1992 
rest in peace envyus and titan.
2015-07-21 02:17
-Kio + Shox
2015-07-21 02:22
titan > envyus now lolol
2015-07-21 02:34
Get out rpk and back with scream and old verygames is reunited :D
2015-07-21 02:43
ENVY SO OP NOW!
2015-07-21 03:02
Incoming world domination via envyus.
2015-07-21 03:27
-rpk +screaM
2015-07-21 04:29
Shox become to god until he win first lan with new lineup
2015-07-21 04:36
this is how you win majors. The French way. No whining anymore just doing some changes and seeing if it works.
2015-07-21 04:44
Good trading by nV. A shame to see Shox leave though.
2015-07-21 04:47
nV lost shox but got 2 good players. Apex may be inconsistent but still far better then the mediocre player(Smithzz) Titan can't be a top team with 2 weak players in the lineup. RIP
2015-07-21 05:06
I think Titan will be better in the long term. They actually fixed a lot of their problems. nV basically just doubled down on theirs...
2015-07-21 06:16
The thing is, if Shox is consistent on how he behaves in a line-up, Titan will only get better on the short term. I also have doubts regarding apeX and KennyS in nV, but we'll see.
2015-07-21 08:29
Nicee
2015-07-21 06:17
Titan are like the humble Jedi and nV are the Sith that will do anything for power and glory. I want to see Titan do well but I feel like nV will now rekt the universe D;
2015-07-21 06:17
RIP titan
2015-07-21 07:00
^Long term^ , dont say that NBK we know what happens after 2 months
2015-07-21 07:25
In CS:GO he has been in VG/Titan for about 2 years and about a year in LDLC/nV. I don't know why you would assume he's used to have short term line-ups.
2015-07-21 08:24
he said long term for kenny ad apex , it's pretty obvious there will be another baguette shuffle if these current team teams wont work out
2015-07-21 12:30
Yup, "if" is the key word.
2015-07-21 23:15
Xpected
2015-07-21 07:48
Always this french soup. Well, gl Titan.
2015-07-21 08:19
Titan go go go
2015-07-21 08:22
#607
jR | 
Ukraine lancee 
Good for titan, bad for envy. Kenny and apex are very overrated.
2015-07-21 08:22
In the long term nothing would really change.
2015-07-21 08:23
First guy who's really damn right. Even shoxieSatan can carry Titan, and Kenny will be very common in Tier 1. I would say that He will be more frustrated and will miss a lotsa shots. on the other side it will be da same.
2015-07-25 13:00
#614
ScreaM | 
Belgium GQHAN 
I think it's a good choice. ENVYUS was needed a better sniper as as in the past NiP. Difference between SmithZz and kennyS is very high. apEX will replace shox. I am sure he will cope.
2015-07-21 08:41
titan will going end very badly !
2015-07-21 08:55
Expected - Now EnVyuS will be nr.1 and titan nr.5 :D
2015-07-21 09:14
"At ESWC the team was basically split between two groups: shox and smithzz and NBK, Happy and Kio- you can see it from the way they played poorly" What does this mean? Would NBK have wanted to leave the team also? keepo
2015-07-21 09:54
titan tier 7 now, kappa
2015-07-21 10:12
When shox is not in form he aimlocks through doors :o)
2015-07-21 10:12
potentially good swap, but pressure is on kenny now. if he does not deliver I'd say that nV lost in that transaction
2015-07-21 10:29
shox rip :'(
2015-07-21 10:44
smithzz, ex6tenz and maniac in same team. are they looking for the lowest k/d ratio when signing players or what is the criteria?
2015-07-21 11:25
ex6tenz is the igl hes not really supposed to be the superstar maniac was studying so he couldnt play "full time" cs smithzz dont train that much here for your ignorance.
2015-07-21 15:25
yes i know - ex6tenz is the igl hes not really supposed to be the superstar >> low kd ratio - maniac was studying so he couldnt play "full time" cs >> low kd ratio - smithzz dont train that much >> low kd ratio nothing you said disproved what i just said
2015-07-21 19:18
k whatever you say Satan
2015-07-21 21:12
EnvyUS gonna get top1 this august.
2015-07-21 11:29
#649
ZywOo | 
France Foryon 
RpK surprised me, then disapointed me, but im pretty sure he will somehow find his old level on CSS then titan will become beast.
2015-07-21 11:53
I really hate the fact that KennyS is on a team with happy. They're going to have conflict and Happy is going to be the issue, as per. I wish the french players could see what is best for them but it's obvious they don't. So much potential to create a truly great team but all they do is create teams that'll suffer in the end. VG in source was truly godlike, they still have that sort of potential but won't get that from either of these teams.
2015-07-21 11:55
yeye expected shit, they always do that
2015-07-21 12:02
-apex +shox = best team in the world.
2015-07-21 12:22
Since RpK isn't someone you can rely on: hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=21673 hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=21221 hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=20916 hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=20915 hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=20753 Titan to suck a huge amount of dicks, while Happy's teem seem to get another profit with this shuffle. Now I'm sure ScreaM would be a better choice for Titan, than RpK, but Ex6's made a mistake once again. shox gonna be very sad after 3 months of continuous fails, and then shox+SmithZz to try to make another "revolution" by kicking an iGL, just like they tried in EnVyUs. Poor Ex6TenZ.
2015-07-21 12:29
Good, since Happy is kind of "go get a pick" kind of IGL it will suit KennyS and the team. And i think also Ex6tenz strats with Shoxie's play style will match perfectly. I can see 2 French teams in top 6.
2015-07-21 13:19
envyus stronk
2015-07-21 13:51
okq
2015-07-21 13:53
#663
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Brazil seltinn1 
Finally kennyS got a good team
2015-07-21 15:17
This doesn't mean he will perform well. There are alot of stars in football that git signed to better teams and underperformed as a result. Kenny now needs to learn how to play into the NV playstyle and learn the players to play off them.
2015-07-21 19:07
#739
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Brazil seltinn1 
I agree with you but I guess kennyS will play better than When played in Titan
2015-07-27 02:55
rip nV, disband in 1 month top Titan tier1 soon
2015-07-21 15:22
kappa
2015-07-21 15:52
expected !!!
2015-07-21 15:37
titan tier 2 confirmed.
2015-07-21 15:42
Ex6tenz > apEX
2015-07-21 17:41
-NBK +shox
2015-07-21 17:59
Good move for both teams. GL <3
2015-07-21 20:26
Now we wait for a Nv or titan match
2015-07-21 21:18
max 3-4 months. then: kenny, shox, scream, happy, nbk/apex/kio
2015-07-21 21:55
Does anyone remember if shox was the IGL in the old epsilon (the Cologne 2014 one)? Titan might have some potential if shox can IGL and they cut rpk and ex6, and bring in some fresh talent. Epsilon did pretty well in a major with a so-so lineup, no reason Titan can't at least compete with T1.
2015-07-21 23:51
M8 yes shox whas the IGL but all the epsilon players is banned and the rest of the french sean has contrakts
2015-07-22 00:57
But Epsilon was nothing special but with shox they did somehow make it work. I'm sure there is a talented rifler somewhere in the french scene looking to for a pro team, there are those in every scene. Money shouldn't be a problem for Titan, they supported this team without them winning anything for months.
2015-07-22 01:10
Unless shox decides not to care about the game(like he somewhat did in inv) then its a complete waste to put the best player in france as IGL.
2015-07-22 09:07
Better for the team in a nutshell since shox himself said that he want to be the leader. Putting him in entry fragging role is a waste because he is uncomfortable there, even if he is an IGL he can still do a lot of damage.
2015-07-22 10:42
Stop listening to nbkry he said pure shit. Shox worked hard and was concerned by the team. But desagree with tactical aspects. And as nbk dont want to accept that he killed shox in his back.
2015-07-24 08:00
wtf did i just read :D :D :D u want to make the player w biggest firepower to IGL ? :D :D and best possible IGL on the world ex6 cut? :D :D ok brah enough for me
2015-07-22 09:13
In terms of fragging, ex6 should be replaced because no matter how good he is, he is a dead weight. He might be a good coach, player not so much. shox himself also said that he wants to be the leader as NBK said in his blog. He probably is better in that position that entry fragging for example.
2015-07-22 10:41
NBK said shox wanted this position only in envy,also if he wants to cut happy he wasnt very excited by his igl style...im not sure if is same scenario possible w ex6
2015-07-23 16:39
It's a possibility if they don't achieve anything with this lineup. shox can lead a team, especially if he has good enough players.
2015-07-23 17:01
yeah and nowadays is quite questonable if titan has enough of skilled players (fragwise)...will see; hope for maniac turn on beastmode as cs pro
2015-07-23 18:41
Lel, nice trade titan. Worst decision i've seen on hltv
2015-07-22 02:57
I thought that Shox and KennyS gonna be in one team :((
2015-07-22 21:43
Thats a #1 lineup imo Glhf fnatic fanboyz :33
2015-07-22 21:50
You do know that Kio and apeX are very in-consistent players and kennyS is just pure bad after the awp update, so I don't think fnatic will have any problem.
2015-07-23 11:57
And yet, they lost to EnvyUs, today, in a bo5 final.
2015-09-28 02:20
NV top1 Titan top2 France top1 cs country!
2015-07-23 18:40
Dream Team but if shox wasn't a good friend of smithzz it could be only -smithzz +kennyS
2015-07-23 18:49
epic battle
2015-07-27 20:44
p
2015-07-31 21:03
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