ESL One Cologne group draw

The group draw for ESL One Cologne has been made, with the 16 participants having learned their fate in the tournament.

From August 20-23, ESL will host the next Valve-sponsored CS:GO major, with 16 teams from all over the world battling it out for a share of the $250,000 prize pool.

The tournament will kick off with a best-of-one, double-elimination group stage with a twist: at the end of day one, all groups will be played out in the Upper Bracket.

The four group winners will advance straight into the quarter-finals, and then the groups will be redrawn, pairing the 12 remaining sides against new opponents to determine the final teams that will make it to the playoffs.


fnatic to face Na`Vi, Titan and eBettle in the group stage 

The quarter-finals, which will be played in a best-of-three, single-elimination format, will be seeded to prevent potential group stage rematches before the grand finals.

Below you can find the group draw in full: 

Group A Group B
Sweden NiP France EnVyUs
Denmark Team SoloMid Brazil Luminosity
Australia Renegades Europe Team Kinguin
United States CLG Ukraine FlipSid3 Tactics
Group C Group D
Sweden fnatic Poland Virtus.pro
CIS Na`Vi Germany mousesports
France Titan United States Cloud9
Poland Team eBettle Australia Immunity
Kinguin 1st in their group!
2015-08-10 17:10
How much faster than me. I would make my mom proud.
2015-08-10 17:11
#188
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Turkey cubeschreck 
Group A CLG + TSM Group B NV + KINGUIN Group C Titan + Navi Group D mouz + C9 i'm coming from future. np <3
2015-08-10 17:23
Renegades > clg bro
2015-08-10 17:25
Nip + tsm Envy + kinguin Fnatic + navi C9 + mouse Easy
2015-08-10 17:26
Nip + Tsm Envy + Kinguin Fnatic + Titan C9 + VP
2015-08-10 17:31
after day1 4 teams go to quarters rest are put in new groups so only 1 team from each group retard hltv kids
2015-08-10 17:42
#316
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Australia GetGot 
You're a fucking idiot
2015-08-10 17:43
here you go retarded kangaroo molester hltv.org/news/15592-esl-one-cologne-form..
2015-08-10 17:46
rekt destroyed and raped
2015-08-10 18:26
rekt destroyed and raped
2015-08-10 18:31
#526
dktenso | 
Brazil lgzn 
rekt destroyed and raped
2015-08-10 19:14
rekt destroyed and raped
2015-08-10 19:27
rekt raped and destroyed
2015-08-10 19:41
deyortsed dna depar tker
2015-08-10 20:10
16-0 never forget
2015-08-11 05:46
quaterfinal = 8 Semi = 4 Final = 2... So as they say... not brilliant ;)
2015-08-11 12:02
#356
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Sweden Kasidro 
no you are
2015-08-10 17:55
bingo :) you're out.
2015-08-10 18:01
did u deserve for rekt
2015-08-10 21:06
rekt
2015-08-11 14:09
Dude, mouz is stronger than VP and will also bash C9, so Mouz will definetly come through Groups^^
2015-08-10 17:50
#410
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Poland PaPaPawian 
mouz are shits, one good match occasionally. I can bet all that VP will win ez. And also VP will beat C9. In 2015 VP won 12 maps and C9 only 1
2015-08-10 18:19
Yea sure, but mouz is very good. And like you say VP will beat C9. So i will think VP + Mouz will do it. But we can't say who is better atm.
2015-08-10 18:26
#450
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Poland PaPaPawian 
At all better is VP it's obvious. mouz can make a surprise but i don't think so. Mouz is good but not stabile . Thay won with fnatic VP and some good teams.
2015-08-10 18:32
Your fanboism is the only thing obvious here.
2015-08-10 18:44
#502
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Poland PaPaPawian 
lolz... retarded ? Look at match histry between this teams. I can bet with you for some skins if you want.
2015-08-10 18:57
New Mouz lineup beat them in 4/5 Maps that they have played against eachother. What are you even talking about Polak.
2015-08-10 20:43
BO1
2015-08-10 19:44
overall it is: c9>vp>mouz but if you look at the matchups, it is mouz>vp>c9
2015-08-10 18:47
#500
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Poland PaPaPawian 
8:5 for VP in maps in 2015. And VP have players with more pure skill than mouz. BTW. VP is on 2nd place for last 12 month. And VP rekt C9 on all match and all LANs.. lolz Learn more and then write something.
2015-08-10 18:55
at gfinity vp got rekt by mouz in 2 BO3's. since then they had no match vs eachother. overall vp played shit the whole year for their standards, except at cevo finals which they could only win cause c9 and navi underperformed heavily e: bringing up that esl ranking shows how clueless you are; i also said for vp its a good matchup to play c9
2015-08-10 19:09
Lol esl rankings. Also bringing up the old c9 is a bad example too because they got rekt by everyone back then. They're practically a different team now and while vp has an advantage it should still be close. Not a "vp will rekt c9" game.
2015-08-10 19:46
yea esl just make rankings and stuff like that from the begining of cs history + they have army of profecional ppl who make it ... yeap this ranking can be shitty , your must be better for sure
2015-08-10 22:26
Worse than esl? Who in their right fucking minds puts tsm at top 6 and nip above them????
2015-08-11 03:11
I'm pretty sure warowl fanboys could come up with a better top10 than ESL did when they released their rankings. See: corresponding HLTV newspost and thread
2015-08-11 03:17
Sorry but esl ranking is just stupid, separating team points and player points result in tsm being 6th, you just proved you don't have a clue.
2015-08-11 09:11
yea man i just watch cs 11 years and im still not able to make mine own rankings so i try to find profesional rankings , maybe this is mine mistake... im almost sure guys like you can make beter rankings like esl
2015-08-11 20:13
#730
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United Kingdom NoelG 
ITs funny because you think those shitty esl rankings are actually 2nd to fnatic? Tsm, envy, navi and maybe even nip are better than your precious polaks
2015-08-11 11:58
this guy has it
2015-08-11 03:16
retarded? overall it is: VP>CP>mouz
2015-08-11 11:45
-1
2015-08-11 17:43
+1
2015-08-10 18:30
I agree !
2015-08-10 21:24
+1
2015-08-10 17:32
+1
2015-08-10 17:46
#736
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Lithuania disesion 
+1
2015-08-11 13:40
*C9+VP
2015-08-18 03:53
#325
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Russia Man0warCSGO 
TSM\CLG EnVy\Kinguin Fnatic\Titan or NaVi C9\mouz or vp
2015-08-10 17:46
fakeflagger u dont believe in na'vi and its na'vi and mouz who will go tru
2015-08-11 11:22
Cmon, stop being a idiots, virtus pro will 1 on group ;) this is a fucking major and believe in me, this guys can win that shit
2015-08-11 12:16
so retarded
2015-08-10 17:27
not how it works m8, the top team from each group advances to the quarters while the remaining teams get scrambled into new groups so basically counter-strat9 is fucked.
2015-08-10 17:32
#285
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Turkey Grimstborith 
lol
2015-08-10 17:35
#296
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World Vidua 
Alternative future for sure, because only first team in group gets out of group stage. Everybody else is randomly put into another batch of groups of 3 teams each and again winners of those leave to play with earlier winners.
2015-08-10 17:39
You're from the future and you don't know the event format? Wow some future it is.
2015-08-10 18:02
mouz + c9, BUAHHAHAHAHA cloud9 was too many times poked by VP, mouz too, last time they lose, but in cologne they will do 100%
2015-08-10 18:06
For me it's: Tsm, nip Nv, luminosity Fnatic, navi Mouz, vp
2015-08-10 18:23
How much on NiP?
2015-08-10 18:47
Group A NiP+TSM Group B NV+Kinguin Group C Fnatic+Na'Vi Group D Mouz+VP RIP Cloud9 since no adderall :S
2015-08-10 19:13
ayyyyyy
2015-08-10 19:20
VP 16-0 mouz
2015-08-10 19:22
NiP 1º TSM 2º Think NiP will win over TSM and TSM over CLG Envy 1º Kinguin/Luminosity 2º Envy wins all 3 matches, kinguin may win over luminosity if they dont choose mirage. Na`Vi 1º Fnatic 2º Same as TSM , lose to the 1º in the group and reck the lower bracket. C9 1º Mouz 2º VP may do something extraordinary but it seems the beggining of the end for this line-up Mouz on a up tragetory since a few games :D PS: I didn't came from the future
2015-08-10 19:24
btw dont know if they changed the format to random drawn for the lower brackets on the groups.
2015-08-10 19:25
no, nt fox
2015-08-10 20:20
Titan out of groups for the first time playing majors I aren't think that
2015-08-10 19:59
NiP+TSM EnVy+Luminosity Fanatic+NaVi Cloud9+Mouz/VP
2015-08-10 20:01
Group A NiP And TSM (NiP First) Group B Fnatic And Na'Vi (Fnatic first) Group C EnvyUS And Kinguin (EnvyUs First) Group D VP And Cloud9 (VP first)
2015-08-10 20:50
#608
heg | 
Slovakia B0R0 
Nip + Tsm Envy + Kinguin Fnatic + Titan C9 + Virtus.pro
2015-08-10 21:13
renegadeS > CLG . and battle with NiP
2015-08-10 22:49
cubeS you dont like sweden i see=D
2015-08-11 02:32
Clg > nip ?????? You are deluded
2015-08-11 02:54
Group A CLG + Renegades Group B Luminosity + Flipside Group C Titan + ebettle Group D Immunity + Mousesports i'm coming from future. np <3
2015-08-11 03:15
uve got it all wrong r u a dota player ? or just plain retarded
2015-08-11 13:56
#740
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United States Shockey 
That's not how it works, after one team makes it from each group the groups are redrawn, so its possible that all 4 teams could make it from a group, and it's possible that no teams will make it from a group.
2015-08-11 14:02
Mouz seriously that major win eBattle
2015-08-12 10:31
RIP LG
2015-08-10 17:24
#212
Straka | 
Argentina straka 
LG are going through relax , kinguin out
2015-08-10 17:26
LG are now brazillian. ok
2015-08-10 17:28
Oh fuck who put titan, navi, fnatic in one group?
2015-08-10 18:03
the same guy that gave kinguin the easy group
2015-08-10 18:30
LG>Kinguin =D
2015-08-10 20:02
#601
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Ukraine kalitajke 
H O W M U C H O W M U C H
2015-08-10 21:00
#638
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Sweden Slappy :) 
A: TSM + RENEGADES B: ENVY + KINGUIN C: FNATIC + NAVI D: CLOUD9 + VIRTUS
2015-08-10 22:15
how long did you spam f5? bet 5 minutes nerd
2015-08-10 17:11
mad that you were 11 seconds slower
2015-08-10 17:19
Group A Nip + TSM Group B NV + LG Group C Fnatic + Navi Group D VP + C9
2015-08-10 17:11
group d is a jumble of shit.it could be VP+c9,VP+mouz,or c9+mouz
2015-08-10 17:14
na scene is a jumble of sh1t, confirmed mad murican kiddo dere
2015-08-10 18:28
polish scene is a jumble of shit,confirmed mad polish kiddo dere
2015-08-10 18:29
u rly have to be superb retard to even THINK that c9 have ANY chance against vp, pure math boi.
2015-08-11 02:53
they dont XD but NA scene is better than poland scene
2015-08-11 06:38
well, maybe. but u have to consider the size of country, i mean there are like 36millions ppl in poland while usa is 3rd biggest country in the world considering population ;d
2015-08-11 14:53
#795
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United States Shockey 
Well India is the second biggest at look at there scene… RIP
2015-08-12 17:18
would u compare ur country to india? k den
2015-08-12 18:36
+1 Definitely think mouz will get out. All depends on if VP turn up.
2015-08-10 18:51
envy + kinguin
2015-08-10 17:14
i agree with you ma friend
2015-08-10 17:14
Group B LG? nah
2015-08-10 17:19
That doesn't work like that ;) Only the 1st of each groups will qualify, then they will redraw the groups
2015-08-10 17:22
GROUP A TSM + RENEGADES.
2015-08-10 17:22
ahaha renegades yea sure keep dreaming..
2015-08-10 17:36
Group C Na'Vi + Titan No kappa, bois 100% true heard first here
2015-08-10 17:27
Luminosity have again a chance to go to the playoffs.
2015-08-10 17:11
kinguin no chance my friend
2015-08-10 17:15
lol ez 1st
2015-08-10 17:21
#192
Sweden BBW 
Reply to you to be high enough Fanboys if NiP don't get to finals "Nip had a tough group for first time ever xD Now you guys see" Fanboys if NiP get to finals "Gg, nip again with the easy groups. How do they keep getting so lucky?"
2015-08-10 17:24
they wont even pass the group stage dont worry bra
2015-08-10 18:00
#506
Sweden BBW 
okay, if they do pass the group stage i will make a thread and post a picture of you saying this then all of hltv will spam 7-1 and retarded brazilians wheres your scene etc etc i literally just put a notification in my phone with pic
2015-08-10 18:59
how much
2015-08-10 20:25
#589
Sweden BBW 
a bag of thorins hair
2015-08-10 20:37
#704
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Serbia whoa!! 
lol
2015-08-11 07:32
#800
SpawN | 
Slovakia mBust3r 
lol
2015-08-13 11:31
letsss gooo
2015-08-10 17:24
Virtus.pro again in group vs Cloud9 wtf is wrong with these draws
2015-08-10 17:25
GROUP A= NIP TSM GROUP B= ENVYUS LUMINOSITY GROUP C= FNATIC NAVI GROUP D VP C9 CONFIRMED BUY Thooorins TWITTER
2015-08-10 17:50
Kinguin wil be last in group/
2015-08-10 18:01
wow, nip got easy groups again inb4 nip gets banned from esl competitions because they pay ESL to get easy groups
2015-08-10 18:59
#507
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Portugal nonex'Z 
no second in ther group
2015-08-10 18:59
#512
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Portugal nonex'Z 
it will be : Group A : - Team SoloMid - NiP Group B : - EnVyUs - Team Kinguin Group C : - fnatic - Na`Vi Group D : - mousesports - Cloud9 and i think it gonna be the final whit Cloud9 vs Kinguin our Na'Vi vs EnVyUs
2015-08-10 19:02
The most competitive is group B (Luminosity, F3 and Kinguin basically have similar chances), the hardest is group C, the easiest - group A
2015-08-10 19:47
Report for being retarded
2015-08-10 23:38
You wasted your 1st comment so bad, so so bad...
2015-08-10 23:40
#732
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Europe duriica 
A- TSM, NiP, Renegades, CLG B- Envyus, Kinguin, Luminosity, FlipSid3 C- Na'Vi, fnatic, eBettle, Titan D- Mouz, Cloud9, Virtus.pro, Immunity
2015-08-11 12:15
EnVy first Kinguin 2nd
2015-08-11 18:15
yes
2015-08-11 18:16
ayy
2015-08-12 03:44
lmao
2015-08-12 03:44
lmao
2015-08-12 03:44
lmao
2015-08-12 03:45
lmao
2015-08-12 03:45
lmao
2015-08-12 03:45
its obvious what u are doing
2015-08-12 03:46
Kinguin > EnVy
2015-08-11 18:16
death
2015-08-11 18:17
obviously
2015-08-11 18:17
maybe baby
2015-08-11 18:18
Penguin win esl one colonge
2015-08-11 18:19
Group A TSM +Renegades Group B EnVyUS + Team Kinguin Group C Fnatic + NaVi Group D Virtus.pro + Cloud 9
2015-08-12 10:27
ebettle ez
2015-08-10 17:10
n1
2015-08-10 17:10
gg
2015-08-10 17:10
#560
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Liechtenstein Chamele0n 
indeed GG. This ESL company is so goddamn corrupt. NiP always easy group. Alwas a group of death, nothing fair. groups like this would be much better. A: Fnatic - Mouz - Titan - Renegades B: TSM - c9 - Kinguin - eBettle C: NaVi - NiP - Luminosity - CLG D: envy - VP - Flipsid3 - Immunity t1 - t2 - t3 - t4
2015-08-10 19:56
C9 nip vp t2 nt retard
2015-08-10 22:06
Wat
2015-08-11 02:57
None of those teams are even t3 apart from Immunity and argualy CLG lmao
2015-08-11 06:17
#754
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Liechtenstein Chamele0n 
Not meant as regular tier in the world, but at this event, atleast in my eyes, is sort of like this. Fnatic, TSM, NaVi and NV is toplevel.(c9 and VP slightly behind. Vp, c9, Mouz and NiP is right behind them with Titan and Kinguin up their asses. The last 6 is hard to predict.
2015-08-11 17:04
#6
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Japan rrtyui 
4
2015-08-10 17:10
third
2015-08-10 17:10
1- nip / tsm 2- envy / f3 3- jw&olof / navi 4- vp / c9
2015-08-10 17:12
nip 1st? haha what a joke
2015-08-10 17:16
he meant that from first group NiP and tsm will win
2015-08-10 17:19
But groups are listed in alphabetical order :o
2015-08-10 17:23
but giuss^ is a dummy mate
2015-08-10 17:44
How can you choose f3 over Kinguin?
2015-08-10 17:21
hard kinguin are like 10-0 f3 lol
2015-08-10 17:25
i cant, markelon op on lanerino
2015-08-10 17:31
mouz has won 2/2 times against C9 since both teams have the new roster. mouz has also beaten VP more times than they lost to them with the new roster
2015-08-10 17:25
mouz + lan = hackz not work (= sucks)
2015-08-10 17:32
#369
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Germany Hamsterdam25 
Explains their bad performances on Lan lately Kappa
2015-08-10 17:59
#747
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Finland jeti 
+1
2015-08-11 14:57
#363
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
They won 1 BO3 lmao
2015-08-10 17:57
win = win
2015-08-10 21:11
#735
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Yes but win =/= better
2015-08-11 13:15
#9
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Ukraine twil 
OMFG
2015-08-10 17:10
lol rip immunity
2015-08-10 17:10
LOOOL RIP IMMUNITY
2015-08-10 17:10
#116
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Australia TotalEclipse 
They were never going to get an easy group, no team outside of Europe was.
2015-08-10 17:16
Yeah that is true but I only realised now that e-bettle is even more screwed xD
2015-08-10 17:21
noiice
2015-08-10 17:10
RiP Immunity day 1
2015-08-10 17:10
lmao poor RNG
2015-08-10 17:10
true :( never lucky with group in major
2015-08-10 17:15
they can't be luckier than that at least they are the favorites versus clg.
2015-08-10 20:13
#15
Australia 5N0 
nice
2015-08-10 17:10
#16
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World Tillt 
rip c9
2015-08-10 17:10
+1, VP and mouz, the two teams that fucked C9 recently
2015-08-10 17:12
#83
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World Tillt 
nvm, i forgot that groups get redrawn in between
2015-08-10 17:14
yh, still a funny draw for C9 though :)
2015-08-10 17:15
Titan in the hardest group yet again, hahahahaha
2015-08-10 17:10
yet again? Katowice they managed to not get past it with a slumping PENTA and LGB
2015-08-10 17:24
i am speaking in general
2015-08-10 17:25
RIP Titan xD
2015-08-10 17:10
i hope RNG make it out of group A :>
2015-08-10 17:10
#20
neeve | 
Portugal neeve 
A - TSM & NiP B - nV & Kinguin C - fnatic & Na`Vi D - C9 and mouz
2015-08-10 17:10
c9 and mouz HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA
2015-08-10 17:11
i think the almost the same puto, just a thing i dont agree that is LG instead of kinguin
2015-08-10 17:14
Mouz will rekt VP 16-0 like Kinguin did
2015-08-10 17:24
#439
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Poland PaPaPawian 
Mouz so suck on LANs. The same C9, in maps on 2015 12-1 for VP so stfu. VP will rekt their. Mouz have one good match occasionally.
2015-08-10 18:25
16-0...
2015-08-10 17:50
could happen, but with bo1 groupstages again i wouldnt wonder if we see some surprises (for example A - TSM & CLG)
2015-08-10 17:12
I'd say more like D - VP and mouz
2015-08-10 17:13
D- VP and C9
2015-08-10 17:13
the groups get redrawn so only one team qualifies for the QF from their group and then they are redrawn with new groups.
2015-08-10 17:15
#130
neeve | 
Portugal neeve 
Oh wasn't aware of that... I'll call it TSM, nV, fnatic & mousesports.
2015-08-10 17:17
Group C... Group of death
2015-08-10 17:10
group C? noooo Group D for sure
2015-08-10 17:12
rip titan again lol
2015-08-10 17:10
lmao bye clg
2015-08-10 17:11
Rip skins
2015-08-10 17:11
nip, tsm, envy, kinguin, fnatic, na'vi, vp and mouz ez
2015-08-10 17:11
1 top-team from each group go out then shuffle
2015-08-10 17:13
Group C, just wow... VP and C9 again =D
2015-08-10 17:12
rip eBettle... and NiP easiest group as always
2015-08-10 17:11
nah nv ez group
2015-08-11 10:40
Group C :OO
2015-08-10 17:11
ez group for kinguin gl
2015-08-10 17:13
#33
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Russia Reph 
B and C wtf
2015-08-10 17:11
Go NV.
2015-08-10 17:11
A - TSM , NIP B - Envyus, LG C - Navi , Fnatic D - c9 , Mousesports
2015-08-10 17:11
the format is different
2015-08-10 17:12
wot?
2015-08-10 17:15
#309
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World Vidua 
Only winners of groups go to quarters. You can't pick 2 teams as only 1 gets out of these groups. A) TSM B) EnVyUs C) fnatic D) Virtus.pro
2015-08-10 17:42
+1, finally found someone with a thing called a brain.
2015-08-11 11:46
Co-Signed
2015-08-10 17:14
#444
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Poland PaPaPawian 
Mouz so suck on LANs. The same C9, in maps on 2015 12-1 for VP so stfu. VP will rekt their. Mouz have one good match occasionally.
2015-08-10 18:26
eBettle had to be in the group of death.
2015-08-10 17:11
GO Luminosity !
2015-08-10 17:11
rip nip haha
2015-08-10 17:11
LOL
2015-08-10 17:11
amazing
2015-08-10 17:11
NIP & TSM EnVyUS & Luminosity Fnatic & Na'Vi Virtus.Pro & C9
2015-08-10 17:12
poor ebettle
2015-08-10 17:12
haha again VP and C9
2015-08-10 17:12
Ez nip Ez tsm Ez envyus Ez kinguin Ez fnatic Ez titan Ez c9 Ez mousesports
2015-08-10 17:12
Kappa
2015-08-10 17:15
BO1 or BO3?
2015-08-10 17:12
bo1, after 2 games, 1st team will go to 1/8, last 3 teams in group will be remixed with teams from other group.
2015-08-10 17:14
Groupstage always bo1.. It should be bo3 and grand final bo5...
2015-08-10 17:18
wo
2015-08-10 17:12
#60
hypn | 
Serbia hypn` 
lol rip titan hardest group
2015-08-10 17:12
Hard one for mouz
2015-08-10 17:12
ez one for mouz, vp will rekt them, but still ez second place.
2015-08-10 17:53
HYPE TITAN SAD ENVYUS HAVE EASIEST GROUP I'VE SEE
2015-08-10 17:12
go LG :D
2015-08-10 17:13
Group D is some hardcore shit
2015-08-10 17:13
Group C hardest group for sure
2015-08-10 17:14
Group C hardest because fnatic and Na´Vi are both basically guaranteed to get 1st/2nd. But Group D is most competitive for sure with 3 teams having a chance to make it far.
2015-08-10 17:28
agreed
2015-08-10 17:29
#312
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World Vidua 
Only 1st place matters in groups.
2015-08-10 17:43
eBettle :(
2015-08-10 17:13
GO NIP <3
2015-08-10 17:13
nip 2ez like always
2015-08-10 17:13
GLHF Titan :/
2015-08-10 17:13
haha c9 couldnt be more unlucky both vp and mouz are kryptonite for c9
2015-08-10 17:13
yeah, lmao again vp and c9 in group
2015-08-10 17:14
#78
dipparn | 
Sweden Khuna 
A: NiP, TSM B: nV, Kinguin C: fnatic, Na'Vi D: VP, C9
2015-08-10 17:13
Finally someone that I can agree with.
2015-08-10 17:50
#84
France B0u  
NiP easiest group as always. How much? And RIP Titan. :-(
2015-08-10 17:14
dream is over again :(
2015-08-10 17:35
tbh if you made it out of groups you would still be rip.
2015-08-11 02:25
group A: NiP, TSM group B: nV, Kinguin group C: Fnatic, Na'Vi group D: VP, mouz
2015-08-10 17:14
VP, C9 you say
2015-08-10 17:27
guys randomly picking 2 top from each group are clueless, dont even know that is another format of groupstage lol
2015-08-10 17:15
GA: NiP, TSM GB: nV, Kinguin GC: fnatic, Titan GD: VP, c9
2015-08-10 17:15
ez nV rip Titan :(
2015-08-10 17:15
TSM NIP ____ EnVy Flipsid3 ____ Na`Vi Titan ____ VP c9
2015-08-10 17:15
titan always the toughest group
2015-08-10 17:15
#102
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Germany 1criT 
Group D gonna be good
2015-08-10 17:15
#103
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Poland sajlent 
VP and Cloud9 always together in groups :D It will be tough for VP because of mouz. They're always good against VP. 1. TSM 2. NiP 1. EnVyUS 2. Kinguin 1. fnatic 2. Na`Vi 1. VP 2. mouz
2015-08-10 17:15
ye but vp > c9
2015-08-10 17:22
#375
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Poland sajlent 
but mouz>c9 so :P in my opinion ofc btw. I forgot about the new format so 2nd place is irrelevant. A TSM B EnVyUS C fnatic D VP
2015-08-10 18:08
RIP C9 The dream could have been real.
2015-08-10 17:15
Meanwhile NiP....
2015-08-10 17:21
...will be 2nd
2015-08-10 17:44
Could of *
2015-08-10 18:14
please don't try and bait me
2015-08-10 18:18
xD
2015-08-10 18:19
A - NiP, TSM B - nV, Kinguin C - FNC, NaVi D - C9, VP
2015-08-10 17:15
#108
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North America Foxaika 
What is with C9 always being in the group with VP? Geez
2015-08-10 17:15
#383
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Poland sajlent 
mortal enemies :D
2015-08-10 18:02
this is actually a group nip can go out of
2015-08-10 17:15
every single group stage nip is in is always fucking easy: eswc montreal: nip, liquid, ldlc-white, qeeyou starladder 12: nip, dignitas, GGWP, epsilon katowice 2015: nip, hellraisers, clg, keyd (LG) dhw 2014: nip, ldlc, planetkey dynamics, ESC the list goes on
2015-08-10 17:22
they are the luckiest motherfuckers
2015-08-10 17:24
c9 and vp in the same group again... along with fnatic and na'vi. nip got a fairly easy group once again, RIGGED
2015-08-10 17:15
rip nip
2015-08-10 17:16
A: tsm, rene B: envy, kinguin C: fnatic, ebettle D: vp, c9 Kappa
2015-08-10 17:16
rip ebettle HAHAHAHA
2015-08-10 17:16
A: clg, tsm (nip are shit fangays) B: envy, kinguin/luminosity (this one is really close group imo) C: fnatic, navi (this group is not that competitive) D: c9, vp (again pretty clear, but mouz could upset either vp or c9)
2015-08-10 17:16
group c is easily the hardest
2015-08-10 17:20
Hardest for teams that are not fnatic and Na´Vi, so it isn't competitive.
2015-08-10 17:29
+1
2015-08-10 17:47
c9, vp? lmao vp is a nightmare for c9, same as mouz
2015-08-10 17:20
its close i agree, but i think that c9 and vp will be stronger.
2015-08-10 17:39
haha mouz>>c9
2015-08-10 17:21
u will see, im right
2015-08-10 17:30
RIP C9 hahaha
2015-08-10 17:16
unfair
2015-08-10 17:16
++
2015-08-10 17:19
NiP easiest group? lol, no. thats Kinguin.
2015-08-10 17:16
GROUP A: NiP TSM GROUP B: Envy Kinguin GROUP C: Fnatic NaVi GROUP D: Virtus Pro C9
2015-08-10 17:17
finnaly some1 wrote right...
2015-08-10 17:34
+1, first totally logical prediction, but for some reason the prediction that makes the most sense never plays out. So expect EZ upsets for T2 teams.
2015-08-10 17:53
ahhahahaha, again c9 vs vp. C9 are sooo unlucky. Easy group for VP. And RIP ebettle, worst group for them ever :(
2015-08-10 17:17
Possible for mouz :)))
2015-08-10 17:17
how did they do the group draw?
2015-08-10 17:17
NiP again with easy peasy group and LMAO C9 always get rekt with harder groups. C9 unlucky and NiP too lucky.
2015-08-10 17:17
Group A : NIP,TSM Group B : Envyus,Luminosity Group C : Fnatic,Na'vi Group D : Mouz , VP
2015-08-10 17:17
gogogogo mouz!
2015-08-10 17:17
EnvyUS easiest group... VP can be out in groups for the first time...Coz they cant handle mouz,and c9 might upset.
2015-08-10 17:17
vp havent lost to c9 since complexity in esea finals 2-3 years ago c.c
2015-08-10 17:19
In a BO3. They have lost, and come close to losing, in a BO1. Also, they lost in that BO3 at ESEA Season 16, little more than a year and a half, not two years. Honestly, because its a BO1, I think C9 could take VP and mouse if they get the right maps. C9 has always come close to beating VP on Overpass, and Cobble is becoming one of C9s stronger maps. Getting one of those two would be great for C9.
2015-08-10 17:21
C9 and mouz both have a history of running over Cloud9 in the same sense Fnatic had until recently. This will be VERY hard for C9. 50% chance at best they make it out of groups imo. Germans with home crowd advantage and practicing harder than any other team, wanting it more than any other team. Yeah.
2015-08-10 17:23
#193
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North America Foxaika 
VP does, but Mouz does not have that history against this lineup.
2015-08-10 17:24
#256
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Germany Chris Walker 
Well they only played 1 BO3 with these line-ups and mouz won it 2:0
2015-08-10 17:31
#284
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North America Foxaika 
I know, but that's not much of a history. I mean no one would say that C9 dominate Fnatic after they did the same.
2015-08-10 17:35
ye unless c9 will make a stupid move and decide to play inferno like in the past lel
2015-08-10 17:24
Maps are chosen @ random
2015-08-10 17:32
Are you serious? Thats a retarded format lmfao.
2015-08-10 17:35
GROUP C AND D DEATH GROUPS GROUP A IS DECENT AND GROUP EZ PZ LEMON SQUEEZY
2015-08-10 17:17
AND Againg Ez group FOr nip.....ahahhahhha.....
2015-08-10 17:18
gogogo #luminositygaming
2015-08-10 17:19
NiP with an easy group AGAIN. It's incredible, they never had a hard group in 6 majors, this is starting to become suspicious.
2015-08-10 17:19
tsm the best team... wth is wrong with you
2015-08-10 17:22
A hard group is when you have at least two teams out of 3 about the same level as you. CLG and Renegades are not on par. And TSM have under-performed two events in a row now. Also, even if TSM broke the NiP curse, they still haven't beaten them at a major. Finally, NiP are under the radar for quite some time now, while TSM has been playing and exposing their game. NiP couldn't have drawn a better group in my opinion. And even if they lose to TSM, their victory over either CLG or Renegades is likely.
2015-08-10 17:40
having the no1 team or no2 depends on ur ranking > than having a top 4-8 team
2015-08-10 17:42
I just explained to you why they have an easy group, and none of that had to do with any ranking. I'm telling you NiP have the advantage over any other team in the other groups. It doesn't mean they'll end up first of their group for sure, nothing is for sure in these tournaments, but they couldn't have had a better chance to do it in their current state.
2015-08-10 17:53
#337
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World bigb1rd 
But the way the system works TSM will (probably) passs the group stage on the first day. That leaves NiP to be in the big group reshuffle where they will end up against different teams on day 2 and could well not get out of the groups.
2015-08-10 17:50
I personally think NiP have the edge over TSM in a Bo1 in the group-stage, for the reasons I explained above. I think it's TSM who's more likely to be in the reshuffle. But yes, if NiP fails to reach first place of their group, then they'll (maybe) have a harder time after the reshuffle, but my point was more regarding the fact that every single major so far, NiP have always drawn groups with only one real contender for first place.
2015-08-10 17:57
at this point ur making like everything is going in nips way ur such a hater nip have no chance vs tsm
2015-08-10 18:01
Yes, that's the point I'm making indeed, and it has nothing to do with hating anyone, it's just my analysis of the situation. And I'm not counting TSM out, they have a decent chance of winning against NiP, but NiP has the advantage. I like to see NiP play just as I like to see TSM play, in fact there's not a single team I hate in the scene. You seem way more biased than I am to be honest.
2015-08-10 18:09
#405
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World madman112 
Well I'd like to be in group B instead of nV... or group C instead of NaVi/fnatic.. Dont see your problem there though.
2015-08-10 18:09
In my opinion nV's group is a real minefield. Kinguin have the players with roughly the same skill level and same loose play-style (even if nV still have the time to add more structure to their game before the event, I don't know if that's really what Happy has in mind) and Scream who played for quite some time with most of nV's players, he knows them very well. F3 is a question mark, it's hard to know what to expect from them, which makes them dangerous. They haven't played that much, and even less against nV, so it'll be quite hard for nV to analyze them (and even harder since their roster has changed between matches). They also proved they could deliver without S1mple during the qualifiers. Luminosity, well they have shown pretty much nothing to anyone, again very hard to prepare for them, and they already surprised everyone at Katowice, they could do it again. Na'Vi and fnatic are not in a "good" group because Titan is under the radar, we don't really know what they can bring. If they bring a big game, it makes 3 big fish in a 4 teams group, could be tough fights. But it's not a "hard" group in itself. Na'Vi have some worries to have, because they lost many times to SmithZz and Shox in the past. In my opinion, the favorites with the difficulty of their group from hardest to easiest: C9, VP, nV, Na'Vi, fnatic, TSM, NiP.
2015-08-10 18:33
nip easy groups again, jesus christ how many times they will recieve this kind of help
2015-08-10 17:20
Are you retarded? Do you know about redraw?
2015-08-10 17:25
Im 1000% sure they will get an easy group in the redraw
2015-08-10 17:26
Implying Group B is not easiest group.
2015-08-10 17:30
#705
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Serbia whoa!! 
so tell me, which grp could have made life harder for NIP?
2015-08-11 08:05
group for envy is for them like.. meh :D
2015-08-10 17:20
GROUP C KILLER
2015-08-10 17:20
#GO LG GL
2015-08-10 17:20
A: NiP, TSM B: nV, Kinguin C: Fnatic, Na'Vi D: Virtus Pro, Mousesports Tough luck for Cloud9 with that group draw. They've been spanked 2-0 by Mouz on lan repeatedly.
2015-08-10 17:21
Current mouse vs Current C9 has played one Bo3, not sure what "repeadtedly" you're talking about. And now that mouse has demos out in the open for Sean to study, I think it'll be closer than you expect.
2015-08-10 17:23
Current line-up yes. When there's such few stats, I like to expand my view and look at best matches with the same core.
2015-08-10 17:23
#205
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North America Foxaika 
Suppose that's fair enough, but given how dysfunctional C9 was prior to the roster shake up, I am not sure that really tells you much.
2015-08-10 17:25
#183
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North America Foxaika 
Repeatedly? Once with the new lineup, right?
2015-08-10 17:23
Current line-up yes. When there's such few stats, I like to expand my view and look at best matches with the same core.
2015-08-10 17:24
#154
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Germany 1criT 
Group A TSM Group B nV Group C Fnativ Group D Mouse/VP
2015-08-10 17:20
for the first time someone understands that is new format..
2015-08-10 17:21
#196
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Germany 1criT 
Haha :D
2015-08-10 17:24
Really good groups all of them are hard (ok, nip's group is easy but at this point they don't count) this major will be fun.
2015-08-10 17:21
#158
NEO | 
Poland baaandi 
ebettle will rape titan again!! :D
2015-08-10 17:21
I hope so bro. Help fnatic.
2015-08-10 17:21
Group D with 3 top 10 teams
2015-08-10 17:22
Virtus.pro easiest group as always 4Head
2015-08-10 17:22
RIP VP ez 4 mouzJ & C9zoid
2015-08-10 17:22
#172
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Germany Gloin 
Mouz getting into group with both top teams they have beaten, NICE
2015-08-10 17:22
C9 getting into group with two of the three top teams they can't beat, DAMN
2015-08-10 17:33
#173
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Chile Cristoff 
ez 4 LG :D
2015-08-10 17:22
rip flipside. so s1mple no party
2015-08-10 17:22
For some reason I think Titan have a better chance now than with an easy group. gl hf all!
2015-08-10 17:22
NiP with the easy group again lmao
2015-08-10 17:23
#180
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Turkey powergs 
I mean every fucking tike C9 and VP xD anyway TSM NiP nV Kinguin Fnatic NaVi VP mouz RIP MURICA EU MASTERRAGE SUCK OURS WHITE COCK
2015-08-10 17:23
Kebab isn't really white
2015-08-11 08:16
#184
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Portugal dracø 
A: TSM, NIP B: Envy, kinguin C: Fnatic, Navi D: VP, Mouz
2015-08-10 17:23
NiP and nV will win easy but mousesports - c9 - VP war in coming.
2015-08-10 17:23
[*] eBettle
2015-08-10 17:24
Rip Titan :'(
2015-08-10 17:24
[*] polish teams 4Head
2015-08-10 17:25
gimme stickers
2015-08-10 17:25
LOL, fnatic got the hardest group despite being the winner of the last major. NiP has the easiest group, YET AGAIN!
2015-08-10 17:26
+1, except envyus has the easiest for sure
2015-08-10 17:27
hltv.org/news/15592-esl-one-cologne-form.. NiP have to beat TSM to get first so how in the world is it an easy group??? Doesnt matter if they get 4th or 2nd if its not 1st it means nothing
2015-08-10 17:32
NiP will be out in group stage, thank me later bros!
2015-08-10 18:20
#213
Brazil lc 
hltv have already posted the groups with the final classification
2015-08-10 17:26
RIP to the C9 hype
2015-08-10 17:26
nice london
2015-08-10 18:04
titan out in groups again cloud9 placed with vp and mouz lmao
2015-08-10 17:26
still out in groups
2015-08-10 17:32
I mean it's possible they'll have to play Ebettle and F3 after these groups and still get into quarter finals so I dont see it being as hard as Navi and Fnatic. :P
2015-08-10 17:34
#218
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
c9 and vp together as always <3 nip easy group as always titan fucked as always
2015-08-10 17:32
hope for renegades or clg
2015-08-10 17:29
Ahh Group D..., sry VP or C9, one of you musst go out in Groupstage, Go Mouz ;)
2015-08-10 17:27
#227
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
A- TSM/NIP B- nV/LG C- FNATIC/NAVI D- VP/C9
2015-08-10 17:28
nt favela
2015-08-10 17:28
#295
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
nt foxj > world
2015-08-10 17:38
#231
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Ukraine FaZe_UW0TM8 
omfg envyus just lol
2015-08-10 17:28
Well, looking at Luminosity chances... They are not screwed, but it will be hard. If they lose to Flipside disband inc.
2015-08-10 17:28
you think disband wont inc? Luminosity org only picked keyd to get stickers and prom their org lel
2015-08-10 17:31
#353
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World bigb1rd 
That whole group is unpredictable imo. I could see all three of the "lower" teams managing to upset Envy and win the group. Especially Luminosity (good tactical side) and Kinguin (who can match Envy for skill). Envy are favourites but that group is wide open still as they're such a new side.
2015-08-10 17:54
i feel like LG will pass it along with envy, they are bootcamping and are basically a better team now since they kicked zqk for cold, kinguin will rely too much on individual skill more than tactics/reading imo
2015-08-10 18:10
the only problem is that scream, maikelele and rain are really good skillwise. If Scream is on his top-game it will take all the tactics in the world to stop him.
2015-08-17 13:51
A: TSM/Renegades B: Envy/Kinguin C: Fnatic/Navi D: Vp/Mouz Thanks me later
2015-08-10 17:28
Valve Stickers Pls D:
2015-08-10 17:29
ye, before that pls roccat take eBettle xd
2015-08-10 17:30
vp and c9 again:) ahaha, bad luck Americas, sry
2015-08-10 17:29
Vp will win if tsm eliminates fnatic. C9 won't best vp ever though...
2015-08-10 17:32
b01s my friendo, anti-strat 9 will be in the building
2015-08-10 21:28
HAHAHAHAHAH GL Team eBettle R.I.P :((
2015-08-10 17:30
btw Fuck your bo1 ESL/Valve
2015-08-10 17:30
#245
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Finland coswell 
Group A is the easiest group for surprises! A: TSM and Renegades B: EnvyUs and Kinguin C: Fnatic and NaVi D: Mousesports and Cloud9 Im hoping for surprises and i really wouldnt surprise if at least couple of these guesses would come true! :)
2015-08-10 17:30
>Group A is the easiest group for surprises! You mean Group B? And do you know about redraw?
2015-08-10 17:32
#579
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Finland coswell 
What redraw? Group A has the most potential to be a surprising group. NiP has been very inconsistant and predictable. CLG has been awesome in group stage matches (best of one matches) against bigger and better opponents. Renegades are really preparing for this. TSM should be clearly the favourites of the group (and even their results are shaky lately). And Group B doesnt look that difficult. I still dont believe in the Brazilians in making an impact. Kinguin has been getting better. Flipside is not a threath. Im really not on the Kinguin bandwagon, but i really think individual skills will win against the Brazilians.
2015-08-10 20:16
I really hope nip gets demolished by tsm and either clg or Renegades manage to beat them. Fuckers don't deserve to get out of groups with all the groups they've had in every tournament.
2015-08-10 17:30
#706
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Serbia whoa!! 
keep whining
2015-08-11 08:09
You'll be the one crying when nip goes out in quarters anyway. Easy groups still don't make you win if you're terrible.
2015-08-11 08:15
#710
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Serbia whoa!! 
so you dont think getting into last major finals doesnt earn you a spot in easy group?
2015-08-11 08:35
They've gotten an easy group at every tournament they've been to for the last year. Too bad they still can't win anything
2015-08-11 15:59
NIP in easiaest group again. Like someone thought what it will not be same this time....
2015-08-10 17:31
#249
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Switzerland pazzo0 
A- TSM, CLG B- LG, envy C- Fnatic, Na'vi D- VP, C9
2015-08-10 17:31
not that group matter anymore with the new formula. VP and ENVY should be safe to exit this time.
2015-08-10 17:31
Group A: NiP and TSM Group B: EnVyUs and Kinguin Group C: Fnatic and Titan Group D Virtus.Pro and Cloud 9
2015-08-10 17:31
rip immunity and renegades gl kinguin :D
2015-08-10 17:31
a: TSM, Nip b: Envy, Kinguin c: Fnatic, Na'Vi d: Vp, Cloud9
2015-08-10 17:32
Jeez, stop doing predictions on which 2 teams are making it out of the groups, it doesn't work like that. Only the 1st place goes to 1\4, groups are redrawn after that
2015-08-10 17:40
#266
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Qatar olaolakaka 
for the 1st time, it will be hard for NiP
2015-08-10 17:32
In first fase is just 1 for group, no? TSM EnVyUs FNATIC VP
2015-08-10 17:32
Go VP \o/
2015-08-10 17:33
#271
Poland n1u 
A - TSM, NIP B - NV, Kinguin C - Fnatic, Na'Vi D - VP, C9
2015-08-10 17:33
eBettle to win this all
2015-08-10 17:33
wondering how they will make stickers prediction with re-shuffle of the groups
2015-08-10 17:33
#275
EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife 
can't wait!
2015-08-10 17:33
the groups will be redrawn anways in day 1 though, the teams that should move on are tsm, envyus, fnatic, and the last one can be either mouz/vp/c9
2015-08-10 17:34
It will be mouz/vp C9 have no chance against those two teams
2015-08-10 17:36
nah dude c9 took a map off vp, and they gonna anti-strat mouz even more now. they have a second chance on day 2 anyway.
2015-08-10 17:41
Yes and mouz won't prepare at all Kappa
2015-08-10 17:49
#357
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World bigb1rd 
C9 have every chance against those two teams.
2015-08-10 17:55
Literally 0% chance
2015-08-10 18:00
#400
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World bigb1rd 
I'll remember this post and come back and mock you when you're wrong just like a mocked all the abusive wankers who said they had "no chance" at ESL ESEA Pro league. In fact lots of clueless idiots said the US teams wouldn't win a single map. I disagreed and look what happened....
2015-08-10 18:06
Be sure to post when they are out at groups. The only chance they have to get to playoffs is if they get eBettle, Immunity or any other farm team in the 2nd draw.
2015-08-10 18:08
NiP,TSM,F3,EnvyUS,fnatic,Na'vi,Vp,c9 Ez pick em
2015-08-10 17:34
(Group A 1.TSM 2.NIP) (Group B 1.EnVyUs 2.Team Kinguin)(Group C 1.fnatic 2.Na`Vi) (Group D 1.vp 2.C9) Thats the right ones
2015-08-10 17:34
rip titan
2015-08-10 17:34
Rip titan gl navi you can beat fnatic <3
2015-08-10 17:35
#290
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Yugoslavia ToBeHonest 
c9 and vp at same group again? oh cmon =\ its not fun anymore (
2015-08-10 17:36
Can someone expain the format to me? so day one, all teams play 3 BO1 in their groups? thereafter the group-1st is qualified for the quarterfinal and all group 2nd, 3rd and 4th will be mixed again?
2015-08-10 17:36
#368
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World bigb1rd 
It's normal best of 1 groups. So if TSM win vs CLG then win vs NiP (after they beat Renegades) they will go through to the Quarters (last 8). Then the remaining 3 teams in each group will be remixed with all the other remaining teams into new groups on day two and the next set of quarter finalists will be determined in the same way (I assume).
2015-08-10 17:59
yes, in 1st group stage, 3 matches gonna be played out, whoever win 2 times is in quartefinals (all bo1), then in 2nd group stage 2 matches, elimination and play off to get to quartefinals
2015-08-10 18:00
#292
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
I can see another Clown9 story if mouz can fix their mistakes
2015-08-10 17:36
RIP Brazil. :/
2015-08-10 17:38
Is the format known yet?
2015-08-10 17:38
pool of death C
2015-08-10 17:39
VP goes home after group stage.
2015-08-10 17:39
A: NIP+TSM B: EnVyUs+Team Kinguin C: Fnatic+NaVi D: Cloud9+VP
2015-08-10 17:39
A - NIP; TSM B - Kinguin; F3 C - Na`Vi; Titan D - VP; C9 1/4 nip titan 2 0 nip 1/4 navi vp 2 1 navi 1/4 tsm kinguin 0 2 kinguin 1/4 c9 f3 2 1 c9 1/2 nip c9 2 1 nip 1/2 navi kinguin 2 0 navi FINAL navi nip 2 1 navi
2015-08-10 17:40
fnatic not coming out of groups nt putin
2015-08-10 17:43
Hehe
2015-08-10 19:08
how do u know about 1/4? Groups will be remixed after first 2 games in a groupstage.
2015-08-10 18:17
Group C is the group of death.
2015-08-10 17:40
NIP always get easiest groups, right?
2015-08-10 17:40
feel sorry for ebettle
2015-08-10 17:41
#315
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Germany Bongskie 
wait Fnatic and Na'Vi are always in one group ? WTH
2015-08-10 17:43
NiP Titan Kinguin luminosity lets go boys
2015-08-10 17:44
Kinguin gonna be destroyed by LG!
2015-08-10 17:44
#330
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World madman112 
Wow. Again VP & C9 on a same group stage, mouz there as well. I can really see these teams mixing up the group totally. Mouz can beat VP (as shown before), C9 can easily beat mouz (and the otherway back) and VP. VP can still easily beat both of these teams when they are on top of their game. Mouz & VP are favorites IMO. Hope for C9s success though. NiP with possible the easiest group again - CLG and Renegades should not have possibility to an upset. TSM probably rekting every team with like 16-6 scores... Group B is group of death for every other team than nV, nV should be on clear water, but then these 3 teams... Kinguin has really shown some potential to play good CS, but so has LG and FS3.. (Flipsid3 has been even better after s1mple than they were with him..) Tight fight for the 2nd place, can go to anyone. Group C should be ez... I am pretty sure NaVi & Fnatic are so well prepared that theres no chance of upset on this group. Unless Shox does some crazy aimlock kills (Kappa) and wins the games for Titan. Poor eBettle.
2015-08-10 17:47
#377
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World bigb1rd 
There is no 2nd place in these groups, only first, as the tournament system is different. The first team through gets to the quarters but the remaining 3 teams (after day 1 ends) will be shuffled with all the other remaining teams into new groups. So it only matters who will top the group at the moment.
2015-08-10 18:01
#464
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World madman112 
ahh okay, didnt know they remade the system. :>
2015-08-10 18:34
Will be interesting to see the outcome of group C D as i think they are the strongest groups out of the 4. NiP TSM Kinguin Envy fnatic titan virtuspro cloud9
2015-08-10 17:48
All those idiots predicting top 2 in groups even though groups will be redraw, hahaha.
2015-08-10 17:48
#382
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World bigb1rd 
+millions
2015-08-10 18:02
Group A Team SoloMid Group B EnVyUs Group C fnatic Group D Virtus.pro
2015-08-10 17:49
Group E Na`Vi Group F NiP Group G mousesports Group H Cloud9
2015-08-10 17:54
This would be awesome.
2015-08-10 18:44
GO GO EBETTLE
2015-08-10 17:51
Go Na'Vi
2015-08-10 17:52
#347
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
Nip Tsm Envy Kinguin Fnatic Titan VP C9
2015-08-10 17:53
damn titan group....
2015-08-10 17:54
so unfair
2015-08-10 17:56
c9 always with vp :D
2015-08-10 17:55
omfg you srly give the hardest group to Titan FUCK YOUU YOU FUCKING MORONS :'( but there is the group redraw thing so maby not that bad thing
2015-08-10 17:57
kinguin has a strong chance of getting in the first my friends
2015-08-10 17:56
#362
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France leccgocsemp 
flipsid3 without s1mple .. okey......
2015-08-10 17:56
Once again Titan gets hard group which they likely won't get out of (even though they would rekt in bo3s) and NIP gets an easy group... They know NIP sucks at bo1s so they give them shit teams to play. Why not same for Titan?
2015-08-10 17:58
#370
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
You cant compare first and third seeded teams, ofc when you are 3rd you dont have a chance for easy group
2015-08-10 18:00
You know why? Because Titan lost in the qualifier to eBettle so they are a low seed from the qualifier. That's why. It's not even random and deserved.
2015-08-10 18:01
Titan couldn't have had a higher seed even if they won against ebettle And ebettle is still 4th seed and Titan 3rd. So you're not answering anything really
2015-08-10 18:14
#367
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
CLG and RNG are not that bad, cmon. NV group is more tough tbh
2015-08-10 17:59
Ez for LG!
2015-08-10 18:00
#376
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Poland tentego 
nip,tsm envy,kinguin fnatic,navi vp,mouz
2015-08-10 18:01
#385
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Netherlands Nieroth 
Nice, good group for Mouz, they've recently beat both c9 and VP offline already and that australian team shouldn't be a problem either. #mouz2wincologne
2015-08-10 18:03
bo1 o\
2015-08-10 18:03
Group C is super hot! Can't wait to see them playing against each other
2015-08-10 18:03
Group A: nip, TSM. Group B: EnvyUS Kinguin Group C: fnatic Na`Vi Group D: Virtus.pro Cloud9
2015-08-10 18:04
titan won't get out of the group ONCE AGAIN
2015-08-10 18:04
hahaha so easy group for Cloud9
2015-08-10 18:04
#538
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Germany Bennime 
lol c9 never wins against vp and they lost the last bo3 against mouz and it wasnt even really close.
2015-08-10 19:28
Except for A it looks pretty damn entertaining
2015-08-10 18:05
#396
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Poland Banan_IDK 
100% ones ore A TSM and NiP B EnvyUS C FNC D VP
2015-08-10 18:05
nV so easy group
2015-08-10 18:05
#398
Havoc | 
Greece ^BreeZe 
Imagine eBettle advancing from such a group...
2015-08-10 18:05
TITAN EZ !!! here is prediction Titan 16-11 NaVi Titan 16-9 fnatic Titan 16-10 eBettle EZ
2015-08-10 18:06
people can't read :) Anyway, day 1 winners: TSM ENVY Navi/Fnatic VP after that things are going to be interesting on day2 . Some guys will go quaterfinals just because of the random draw. That formula is even more frustrating than the previous one in my opinion :)
2015-08-10 18:08
I don't even get why they would make their format even more autistic instead of just making them bo3 lol
2015-08-10 18:27
Kinguin ftw! <3
2015-08-10 18:08
1st
2015-08-10 18:10
Rip group C and D, once again, ESL's seeding and format are really good Kappa² ...... It is such a shame when we see how weak group A and B looks ... Free quarters for random tier 2 teams gg
2015-08-10 18:13
Nay nay nay groups are fair mate you just scared that BOT KennyS will lose to KING.SCREAM
2015-08-10 18:16
i'm not scared :p I like Kinguin too, but i won't take anything from the group stage with shitty BO1
2015-08-10 18:22
yaya im just troll +1 tho
2015-08-10 20:42
TSM nV fnatic VP And then we'll see how this redraw goes.
2015-08-10 18:13
FNATIC GOIN TO LEAVE in groups?
2015-08-10 18:15
Hyper ez 100 bombs
2015-08-10 18:15
#418
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Poland sajlent 
inb4 it will be 1. NiP 2. Kinguin 3. Titan 4. Cloud9 :D and then the battle will begin
2015-08-10 18:16
titan to fail groups again.. so sad :(
2015-08-10 18:18
it's unbelievable how VP is underrated by HLTV kids :)
2015-08-10 18:18
b: nip & tsm a: envy & kinguin c: fnatic & navi d: vp & mouz
2015-08-10 18:19
Group A Group B NiP EnVyUs Team SoloMid Luminosity Group C Group D fnatic Virtus.pro Navi mousesportsTitan
2015-08-10 18:20
group B ez
2015-08-10 18:20
VP with C9 hehe , typical :D A - TSM , Renegades B - nV , Luminosity C - Fnatic , Na'Vi D - VP , C9
2015-08-10 18:20
i honestly think group d is the toughest in that mouz vp and c9 are all about the same level. its the only group with 3 top 10 teams in it... (per thorin's rankings, not ESL's shitty ones) lets not forget the new format though.. even if c9 lose to vp or mouz, groups are getting shuffled after winners go through
2015-08-10 18:23
#436
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Vietnam yolesnoobs 
hard group for EnVyUs KappaPride
2015-08-10 18:24
tsm nv fnatic vp
2015-08-10 18:24
A easy BCD HARD just for f****** NIP...
2015-08-10 18:24
Nip, TSM, Kinguin, Envy, Fnatic, Navi, VP, Mous
2015-08-10 18:25
Rip ebettle
2015-08-10 18:26
OFC titan will get a hard group when they had to qualify..
2015-08-10 18:26
TSM/NiP nV/LG fnatic/Navi Mouz/VP
2015-08-10 18:28
again nip get easy group
2015-08-10 18:31
VP + Cloud9 as always :D
2015-08-10 18:31
nip easy grp once again, they never had a strong grp in any major which is ridicoulus
2015-08-10 18:32
ez for eBettle :D #GoGoeBettle
2015-08-10 18:32
Wait... "Groups winners will advance straight into the quarter-finals, and then the groups will be redrawn, pairing the 12 remaining sides against new opponents to determine the final teams that will make it to the playoffs." How is that possible if only 2 manage to go to the playoff in each group ?
2015-08-10 18:32
Only the 1st in all groups will advance first..
2015-08-10 18:34
Ah ok so : If for exemple Kinguin finishes 2nd in the first group stage, they won't need to face tsm again in the second group stage is that right ? Edit : Sry f3 not tsm
2015-08-10 18:38
Yes, you are right.
2015-08-10 18:39
Yes, they won't be in the same "next" group: Pasting this: "Actually with the twist, this helps C9. Sure they won't get 1st cuz mouz/VP in the same group...But then they fall with 3 other teams, I mean mouz/vp can't be in the same group then 'cause they would already have played once. So this is their best chance."
2015-08-10 18:39
#461
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Brazil mth^ 
LG! Don't Stop Believin'
2015-08-10 18:33
Why do you never state when the tournament actually starts in these posts? Some people don't live on HLTV to catch all the news
2015-08-10 18:33
win ez TSM LOW elo player
2015-08-10 18:34
These groups are insane! No more bo1!
2015-08-10 18:35
#468
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World navlefnuller 
Thus the questions are: NIP or TSM? NAVI or Titan? Mouse or Cloud9?
2015-08-10 18:36
I like how NiP has the "easy group" again, lmao. Rigged as fuck, my God.
2015-08-10 18:38
its not really easy seeing as how they have to beat TSM to advance through THIS group then the groups will be redrawn.
2015-08-10 18:42
That's the only team though, hence "easy group." Since TSM isn't the greatest at the beginning of a LAN. CLG might be able to beat them, Renegades? nope, they're mediocre and just overhyped due to Vox.
2015-08-10 18:44
lol what? Renegades > CLG easily hahahaha
2015-08-11 06:17
#473
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Norway beastin 
This is going to be epic.
2015-08-10 18:38
A: 1. TSM; 2. NiP; 3. CLG; 4. Renegades B: 1. EnVyUs; 2. Luminosity; 3. Flipsid3; 4. Kinguin C: 1. fnatic; 2. Na`Vi; 3. eBettle; 4. poor Titan once again D: 1. mousesports; 2. Virtus.Pro; 3. Cloud9; 4. Immunity
2015-08-10 18:39
A - TSM #1, NiP #2 but Renegades could surprise NiP B - EnVyUs #1, FlipSid3 or Luminosity #2 C - Fnatic #1, Na'Vi or eBattle #2 D - VP and C9 coming out 100%, C9 has never beat VP but in a bo1 anything can happen
2015-08-10 18:40
F3 or LG over Penguin? hahahaha false.
2015-08-10 18:40
its just an opinion. no need to be salty.
2015-08-10 19:37
Guys you need to remember THAT THESE AREN'T THE WHOLE GROUPS AFTER THE WINNERS GET OUT THE GROUPS GET REDRAWN AGAIN SO THEY TEAMS CAN'T GO OUT TO ONLY 1 OR 2 TEAMS FROM THEIR ORIGINAL GROUP! esl-one.com/csgo/cologne-2015/news/annou.. Read below where it lists the groups!
2015-08-10 18:40
#480
f0rest | 
Romania 69sRs 
NiP Renegades EnvyUS Kinguin fnatic Titan Virtus Pro CLoud9
2015-08-10 18:42
Group A 1.NiP 2.TSM Group B 1.Kinguin 2.EnVyUs Group C 1.fnatic 2. Titan Group D 1.Virtus.Pro 2. Cloud9
2015-08-10 18:42
EnVy will win cologne, hltv confirmed
2015-08-10 18:43
vp c9 the real love story
2015-08-10 18:43
I thought about it like that also lol :D
2015-08-10 22:43
:D its true :D
2015-08-11 21:05
#489
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Turkey powergs 
Guys what is format change can someone explain pls ?
2015-08-10 18:45
#490
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Brazil RisenNTC 
gl Luminosity <3
2015-08-10 18:46
A - TSM,NiP B - nV,Kinguin C - Titan,NaVi D - VP,C9
2015-08-10 18:48
+1
2015-08-10 18:50
NiP with a hard group for the first time. lol.
2015-08-10 18:49
it's "medium" lol
2015-08-10 18:51
Group A TSM, NiP/Renegades Group B EnVyUs, Team Kinguin Group C fnatic, Na`Vi Group D mousesports, Virtus.pro/Cloud9
2015-08-10 18:50
vp players face after seeing their group :-) :-D :-) :-> :-)
2015-08-10 18:53
G-A : #1 TSM #2 NiP G-B : #1 nV #2 LG G-C : #1 Fnatic #2 Na'Vi G-D : #1 Mouz #2 C9
2015-08-10 18:54
Easiest group for nV (only Kinguin might suprise), Titan will prolly go out in group once again. IMO: Group A - TSM, NiP (CLG & Renegades might upset NiP, but not likely - Renegades look pretty bad during their last event, CLG will probably choke against NiP magic). Group B - EnVyUS, Kinguin (Kinguin might upset nV & become 1st in their group, but I doubt LG or F3 to be able to win against both nV and Kinguin). Group C - Fnatic, Natus Vincere (Titan might advance as well, but it would require either really poor plays from Fnatic\Na`Vi or extremely high perfomance from Titan). Group D - Virtus.pro, Cloud9 (mousesports can upset both VP & C9, but they will probably be still tired from that LAN marathon they had & it might affect their preparation; Immunity don't stand a chance against either of these teams).
2015-08-10 19:03
#511
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Brazil RisenNTC 
we'll see :)
2015-08-10 19:02
#504
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Russia AR4ER 
Great event.F3 gogogo! HR ;(
2015-08-10 18:58
Actually, as always: 1.NiP has very easy group (TSM now can't beat even NiP, tbh. They almost always lost them in BO3's this year, but there's BO1 group stage so who knows?) 2. FUCKING CLOUD FUCKING NINE IN SAME FUCKING GROUP WITH VIRTUS FUCKING DOT PRO. 3. Na'Vi again in same group with Fnatic (so much jokes from ESL). 4. Non-understandable (sry for bad englando, just dunno how it is in englando) pick'em challenge. Gold achievment will be hard to recieve:)
2015-08-10 18:59
EnvyUs has a much easier group than NiP. In a sense, the hardest group is the VP/Mouz/Cloud9 group as no other group has 3 top-10 teams. Group A and C are in the middle with 2 strong teams in each.
2015-08-10 19:13
#509
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Czech Republic exi77 
A - TSM, NiP B - EnVyUs, Kinguin C - NaVi, Titan D - C9, Mouz Thanks me later :P :D
2015-08-10 19:01
#647
Poland n1u 
No Fnatic, no VP. Ok pepicek :D
2015-08-10 22:52
#811
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Czech Republic exi77 
:D I changed it :D My pick: TSM,EnVyUs,Fnatic,VP :D
2015-08-18 21:29
if fnatic and cloud9 rekt in groups ill cry
2015-08-10 19:02
As always easy group for nip
2015-08-10 19:02
hyper has to drop 70 every match to get out of groups rofl
2015-08-10 19:04
#517
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United States velocityy 
Group B is the biggest joke of a group lol. a top 3 team, than all 12+ ranked teams
2015-08-10 19:05
yeah now nobody will complain about NiP getting an easy group
2015-08-10 19:07
Every team of this joke group can beat anyone in a bo1 specially LG with the new line-up and Kinguin. Also don't forget FlipSid3 is in a good form lately.
2015-08-10 19:31
#519
ZywOo | 
Canada pain^ 
fnatic will be the champions ez
2015-08-10 19:07
4 through directly: TSM, Fnatic, EnvyUs, VP In Redraw: Mouz, Cloud9, NiP, NaVi Semi: TSM, Fnatic, EnvyUs, + One of the 4 in Redraw
2015-08-10 19:07
rip renegades
2015-08-10 19:08
cloud9 is not gonna make it out of groups lol. VP AND mouse have their number...
2015-08-10 19:10
no adderall = RIP
2015-08-10 19:14
That doesn't seem certain. They may lose to both Mouz and VP and because of redraw of groups, still make it out of groups because of the redraw and their new opponents.
2015-08-10 19:16
#528
dktenso | 
Brazil lgzn 
RIP golden bet trophy. this tournament is as stacked as fuck!!!
2015-08-10 19:15
#LGLOYAL
2015-08-10 19:27
Kinguin really has a chance. NiP again has a decent group (arguably). Titan have a monster of a group...toughest IMO. D is the crazy round, rooting for the muricans :D
2015-08-10 19:28
NiP always get easy group
2015-08-10 19:28
#541
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Jordan Al-Mufleh 
Group A NiP + TSM Group B EnVyUS + KINGUIN Group C Fnatic + Na'Vi Group D VP + C9
2015-08-10 19:29
#544
Estonia rYm 
vp and c9 always in the same group every single tournament wtf
2015-08-10 19:32
i'm sorry kinguin fanboys, but LG gonna win them easy ;D
2015-08-10 19:32
fnatic vs nip in finals thank for me later
2015-08-10 19:40
#550
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Turkey Ilairon 
VP Mouz C9 in the same group again and again and again
2015-08-10 19:42
#559
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Finland jayss 
Thank fucking god it's not EnvyUs, VP and C9 again
2015-08-10 19:52
#552
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Brazil markkrj 
How can NiP be always in the easiest group?
2015-08-10 19:45
Nah, TSM,NIP ENV,Kinguin Fnatec,Na'vi VP,C9
2015-08-10 19:47
w0w
2015-08-10 19:47
The most competitive is group B (Luminosity, F3 and Kinguin basically have similar chances), the hardest is group C, the easiest - group A
2015-08-10 19:49
#558
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Finland jayss 
TSM has such an easy group, the second seed can be any team of the remaining three. EnvyUs has the second easiest group. Only group C and D have it tough, though I feel like fnatic is gonna dominate the tournament once again.
2015-08-10 19:51
envyus have the easiest group 2nd group A
2015-08-10 19:57
#562
ZywOo | 
Brazil Tesse 
rip luminosity :´(
2015-08-10 19:57
Anyone else think ebettle will upset titan and maybe fnatic?
2015-08-10 20:03
GROUP A: TSM+NIP GROUP B: ENVYUS+LUMINOSITY GROUP C: FNATIC+NAVI GROUP D: VIRTUSPRO+MOUZ Luminosity got really lucky
2015-08-10 20:03
Nip again in an easy group
2015-08-10 20:04
FCK UP GROUP DRAW Look at Group B and Group C... B is badass, C is soft
2015-08-10 20:07
#573
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Brazil markkrj 
Reading the new rules, my guess is that: A = TSM B = nV C = Fnatic D = V.P. Then the groups will be mixed and then: LG C9 Na`Vi NiP
2015-08-10 20:09
SoloMid, EnvyUs, Fnatic, and Virtus Pro. Day1.
2015-08-10 20:09
The amount of people who doesn't know how the rules work...
2015-08-10 20:21
Team eBettle ez group, ez final. :_:
2015-08-10 20:25
LG + EnVyUs Izi my friend IZI!!
2015-08-10 20:28
#606
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Germany OfficialKown 
I think Kinguin will beat keyd
2015-08-10 21:12
Poor C9. Getting VP in groups.
2015-08-10 20:32
#591
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Pretty easy to predict: NiP TSM nV Luminosity fnatic Na'Vi VP C9
2015-08-10 20:42
#594
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Chances of winning the whole thing: 1. fnatic 2. NiP (ye, they are shitty, but they will get to the final somehow as always and then they have some chance) 3. VP 4. nV 5. Na'Vi 7. C9 There is zero % chance that someone else will win it.
2015-08-10 20:45
#596
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Sweden jaxthegod 
Realistic chances or mathematical chances? math you pleb.
2015-08-10 20:51
#600
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Use your brain, stupid swede. How can you even consider "mathematical chances" on an event like this? Then every team have 6,25% chance of winning. There is your stupid answer for your stupid question.
2015-08-10 20:57
#620
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Sweden jaxthegod 
Well everything is possible you narrow-minded retard. Thats why I asked you what chance you meant, what if every pro team got fucked by eBettle. fucktard
2015-08-10 21:36
#644
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United States snack- 
Easily the stupidest rankings I've ever seen. NIP is the weakest in history like way more than before Katowice and Dreamhack winterso they're like 8 TSM is easily a top 3 no matter how you spin it. Navi is also without a doubt top3 way superiot to VP you fucking autist nV could be monsters nobody really knows so I'll put them at 4 C9 matches up well against every team but VP so they're better than VP because of that VP is also playing really poorly even after coming off a won tournament and they don't matchup well against other European teams but they always beat C9 that's why they're below c9
2015-08-10 22:48
"don't matchup well against othet european teams" Lol'd they also won with navi and tsm..
2015-08-10 23:20
#653
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United States snack- 
Like once in the past 3 months? Their form against other Euro teams has been awful the past 3 months. Occasionally they'll play like the old VP and beat them but it's so inconsistent.
2015-08-10 23:24
Once? 16-4 with navi (3 times lan) Last 3 lans matches won vs tsm
2015-08-10 23:28
#668
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Yeah, keep beliving that C9 can win a major lel
2015-08-11 00:56
#797
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United States snack- 
I'm not even a C9 fan I still don't like em I'm a TSM BOY
2015-08-13 00:24
#799
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Oh, I forgot to put TSM here, sorry. I was a bit drunk doing that post, so don'take too serious, cheers ;p
2015-08-13 01:14
ebettle ez group #belive
2015-08-10 20:57
#602
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Ukraine kalitajke 
Na'Vi top 1, screen dat
2015-08-10 21:01
n1ce
2015-08-10 21:09
ez for hu3 Kappa
2015-08-10 21:15
TSM, CLG nV, Kinguin Fnatic, Na'Vi Cloud9, mousesports
2015-08-10 21:25
according to esl ranking top1 and top3 teams placed in the same group so this ranking isn't using for seeding?
2015-08-10 21:26
titan could win vs fnatic
2015-08-10 21:28
#618
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CIS skruxie 
SHITSIDE3 again 4 round max
2015-08-10 21:34
nip, tsm fnatic, na'vi kinguin, nV c9, vp
2015-08-10 21:39
1st x)
2015-08-10 21:49
Titan doesn't have the worst group actually, imagine a group with VP and nV, they have a better chance against Fnatic and Na'Vi than nV VP or TSM. Not the best group but not the worst
2015-08-10 21:55
Rip titan
2015-08-10 22:00
c9 always get fkn VP xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD every god damn time
2015-08-10 22:00
#627
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Greece her-1g 
group A is really tough for NiP. same for cloud9. I dont see the american fellas pass the group stage. prediction tsm, nip envyus, kinguin fnatic, navi virtus.pro, mouz
2015-08-10 22:01
#635
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Finland turbzie 
LOL, you really think that c9 cant beat mouz and vp?? :D:D
2015-08-10 22:11
#640
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Greece her-1g 
we will see
2015-08-10 22:18
#664
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World breezy0 
as far as i know c9 never beat vp and c9 got rekt by mouz two weeks ago at cevo lan.
2015-08-11 00:09
Guys you're all wrong The four group winners will advance straight into the quarter-finals, and then the groups will be redrawn, pairing the 12 remaining sides against new opponents to determine the final teams that will make it to the playoffs.
2015-08-10 22:08
#634
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Brazil Collee 
ROFL NiP getting the easiest group again axaxaxaxaxax)))))
2015-08-10 22:11
AM i the only one to read the entire text ? The four group winners will advance straight into the quarter-finals, and then the groups will be redrawn, pairing the 12 remaining sides against new opponents to determine the final teams that will make it to the playoffs.
2015-08-10 22:12
nip again in group of death kappa
2015-08-10 22:12
NiP ?? group of Death ?? ahahahhaa See Group C ... fnatic,NaVi,Titan,eBettle THIS IS GROUP OF DEATH
2015-08-10 22:21
A: NIP, TSM B: ENVyUS, Team Kinguin C: fnatic, Na`Vi/Titan D: Cloud9, VP
2015-08-10 22:50
I don't know houw about you guys, but I feel like Flipside are actually able to pass this group.
2015-08-10 22:52
Group A: Renegades, TSM Group B: EnvyUs, F3 Tactics Group C: Fnatic, Navi Group D: Cloud9, Virtus Pro
2015-08-10 23:19
Still BO1 :(
2015-08-10 23:21
Opinions on hardest and easiest groups? To me group C seems pretty tough, while groups B or D could be a little easier.
2015-08-10 23:24
B is the easiest group. D is probably the hardest. A & C have two good teams in each, so in the middle. The setups pretty much guarantees that EnvyUs has the easiest route to the Quarterfinals. They have nobody in their group that should give them any trouble. A & C are more competitive, but D is a killer. VP/Mouz/Cloud9 means only one of those three gets to the Quarterfinals directly after the first round, meaning the other two have to fight it out for 4 open spots left, which will probably include such teams as NiP and NaVi. Not easy, but possible all of those 3 teams in D get to quarterfinals. The problem is the #2 team in Group B behind EnvyUs may bump out whoever is in 3rd place in Group D and yet be a much lesser team. That's unfortunately why Group B sucks. You're likely to see 7 of the 8 teams in the quarterfinals who belong there and one of the 8 that don't.
2015-08-11 00:10
Can agree to this. after checking again i realised that D might indeed be pretty tough. its a good analysis you got there. but still, its the group stages. BO1 and double-elimination means that some major upsets might happen. it might not be too fair to be honest, but it sure does bring an element of surprise and some excitement into the early stages of the tournament. if things get too out of hand however, the rest of the tournament might be a little meh.
2015-08-11 02:50
come on its NiP/TSM or RNG/NIP ez
2015-08-10 23:41
#660
Barcode | 
Sweden mlns 
hltv.org/news/15592-esl-one-cologne-form.. Hopefully this makes it so some cool upsets happen
2015-08-11 00:00
[*] VP
2015-08-11 00:02
What is this joke group for NiP? Like HOWI S IT SO EASY? Also it will be tough to see if Titan fail to make it out of groups because they have a huge task ahead of them.
2015-08-11 00:05
EnvyUs group is the easy one.
2015-08-11 00:10
so many retards writing 2 teams for every group not recognizing groups gonna be redrawn again after winners pass through
2015-08-11 00:29
+1
2015-08-11 00:37
dope tournament
2015-08-11 01:14
HLTV please write in bold and at the beginning of the text that only one team pass and then groups will be redrawn.
2015-08-11 01:22
wtf.... who did envyous blow to get that group?
2015-08-11 02:15
group a nip or tsm group b envy group c fnatic group d vp or mouz or c9
2015-08-11 02:23
TSM with lower seeds? WTF rigged.
2015-08-11 02:58
#683
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CIS chlenixon 
gosh, -eBettle +HR
2015-08-11 03:13
#687
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Europe suazo 
Nip easiest group again.. rofl..
2015-08-11 03:28
ESL mixed between NIP and nV NIP always gets the easiest group +will be hardest pickem
2015-08-11 05:06
mouz - c9 - VP i feel like these three are always together...
2015-08-11 05:26
Group A: 1) TSM 2) NiP 3) Renegades 4) CLG Group B: 1) EnVyUs 2) Kinguin 3) Luminosity 4) FlipSid3 Group C: 1) Fnatic 2) NaVi 3) Titan 4) eBettle Group D: 1) VP 2) C9 3) mousesports 4) Immunity
2015-08-11 05:58
Group A- TSM & NiP Group B- nV & Luminosity Group C- Fnatic & Titan (Titan to upset Navi with new lineup) Group D- Mousesports & VP (rip C9)
2015-08-11 07:06
No cool stickers. ;_;
2015-08-11 08:31
lg will pass in first, thank me later.
2015-08-11 09:07
mouz recently won several times against C9 & VP in bo3 matches, they could upset :) Group A: TSM/NIP Group B: ENVY Group C: Fnatic Group D: VP/mouz
2015-08-11 09:19
a - tsm & nip b - env & kinguin c - fn & navi d - mouz & c9 never forget vp 0:16
2015-08-11 10:14
yea kul story
2015-08-11 11:31
A NiP Renegades _______ B EnVy Flipsid3 _______ C Na`Vi Titan _______ D VP C9
2015-08-11 10:17
Ez for Na'Vi
2015-08-11 10:26
Group A = NiP & TSM Group B = EnVyUs & Team Kinguin Group C = fnatic & Na'Vi Group D = Virtus.pro & Cloud9
2015-08-11 10:47
A: TSM. B: EnVyUs. C: Fnatic. D: Cloud9.
2015-08-11 10:50
Skillwise and historywise and performancewise it should come like this: A: TSM B: EnVyUs C: Fnatic D: Virtus.pro
2015-08-11 11:47
A: NiP B: Kinguin C: Fnatic D: C9
2015-08-11 11:51
KINGUIN OVER ENVYUS ? I ARENT THINK THAT
2015-08-11 14:31
gogo
2015-08-11 11:53
That Group D though.. As much as I cheer for Virtus Pro due to 1.6 history, C9 because they are probably only NA team who can compete on this level and now mouz who is kinda getting better results. I assume that Virtus Pro will fail as always, so atleast I can see mouz how far they can go.
2015-08-11 13:47
Do we know, what teams are paired first in the Groups? I mean, what matches are to be played first? I know that e.g. fnatic cannot play NaVi first and NiP cannot play against TSM first, but are any further matches stipulated yet?
2015-08-11 14:00
A TSM NIP B EnVyUs Kinguin C fnatic Na'vi D mouz c9 or VP
2015-08-11 14:10
people really think that tsm will win against nip HAHA
2015-08-11 14:29
#749
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Brazil woody77 
Day 1: A: TSM (*) NiP Renegads CLG B: ENVYUS (*) Kinguin Luminosity flipsid3 C: Fnatic(*) Na'vi Titan e-bettle D: Virtuspro(*) Mousesports Cloud9 Imunnity Day 2: A: NiP (*) Titan Flipside B: Keyd (*) mousesports CLG C: Cloud9 (*) Kinguim e-bettle D: Na'vi (*) Renegads Immunity Day 3: TSM vs Keyd Envyus vs Cloud9 Fnatic vs Na'vi VirtusPro vs NiP /end
2015-08-11 15:34
nice prediction. i agree with you
2015-08-12 01:02
#783
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Brazil woody77 
thanks bro
2015-08-12 04:57
i dont see cloud 9 making it out of groups... vp and mousesports are their cryptonite
2015-08-11 16:34
i'd say mouz and c9 are 50/50 at this point. Ofcourse i'd rather see mouz winning.
2015-08-12 10:51
First time NiP does not have an easy group... Great :)
2015-08-11 19:37
It's look something like ALL FOR NIP
2015-08-11 20:28
#784
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
Looks promising for Kinguin and NiP! <3
2015-08-12 05:07
It's going to be an epic Event :3
2015-08-12 08:11
the text says 4 group leaders go straight to playoffs and the other 12 teams' groups are redrawn, but you still make your picks as if you knew who is going to play against whom... idiots <3
2015-08-12 09:48
ez 4 NiP:)
2015-08-12 10:38
Group A TSM, NiP/Renegades Group B EnVyUs, Team Kinguin Group C fnatic, Na`Vi Group D mousesports, Cloud9 fnatic or EnVyUs WINNER!
2015-08-12 13:44
Why should VP not make it trough the Group stage against mouse or c9 ?
2015-08-12 16:09
#803
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Poland sajlent 
he doesn't even know how tournament system will work lol
2015-08-14 19:47
#798
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Australia SUNSPY 
If group format hadn't changed; TSM, NiP ENVY, Kinguin fnatic, NaVi Cloud9, VP fnatic, ENVYUS, or TSM for the win I don't think the change will affect too much, but who knows right ?
2015-08-13 00:36
Ez Pz eBettle
2015-08-13 11:35
#802
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Poland sajlent 
TSM EnVyUS fnatic VP and then Na`Vi Cloud9 mouz NiP
2015-08-14 19:46
Group A : Nip + TSM Group B : EnVyUs + Kinguin Group C : Fnatic + Na`Vi Group D : Virtus.pro + Cloud9
2015-08-14 19:50
GL ALL TEAMS
2015-08-15 17:15
NiP <3 16 x 10 against TSM
2015-08-17 17:31
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