TSM, Titan invited to ESL Dubai event

MIRAA
August 25th, 2015 17:05

ESL has announced that Team SoloMid and Titan have been invited to attend the ESL ESEA Pro League Invitational in Dubai.

Earlier in the month, ESL announced the first details about an invitational event to be held in Dubai from September 10-12 as part of GAMES 15, with five European teams plus Cloud9 duking it out for the bulk of the $250,000 prize pool.

The participants were selected based on a world ranking created by ESL itself that came under a lot of criticism from the community and from some teams, one of them Team SoloMid, whose players claimed that the results achieved under dignitas were not taken under consideration while other teams had points transferred between organisations.


TSM will fight for a piece of the $250,000 prize pool

At the time, ESL Pro Gaming vice-president Ulrich Schulze admitted the possibility of expanding the event to eight teams. The German company has now confirmed the news, with the last two spots being filled by TSM and Titan.

Both teams were in action last week at ESL One Cologne, with TSM finishing 3rd-4th, while Titan had to settle for a place in the bottom eight. 

The final list of participants for the ESL ESEA Pro League Invitational looks as follows:

Sweden NiP Sweden fnatic
CIS Natus Vincere  Poland Virtus.pro
France EnVyUs United States Cloud9
Denmark Team SoloMid France Titan
#3
Sweden Alb9n 
nice
2015-08-25 17:05
+1
2015-08-25 19:35
#4
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Germany TimeToRage 
k
2015-08-25 17:05
n1
2015-08-25 17:05
niceerino
2015-08-25 17:05
wtf
2015-08-25 17:05
umm titan?
2015-08-25 17:05
mouz are probably much more deserving
2015-08-25 17:06
LG all the way
2015-08-25 17:09
Titan are 8th in the list. Other teams deserve it but ESL and their lists :/
2015-08-25 17:11
titan > navi confirmed
2015-08-25 17:15
lol)
2015-08-25 21:01
Nice :)
2015-08-25 17:05
maybe they will stop crying now
2015-08-25 17:05
Sick, hope Titan go through group stage this time xDDDDD
2015-08-25 17:06
0%
2015-08-25 19:59
#18
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Germany h0pe. 
eZ TSM. c:
2015-08-25 17:06
Titan?LOL
2015-08-25 17:06
Titan 16-0 fnatic confirmed???
2015-08-25 17:06
Titan4fail
2015-08-25 17:06
#23
f0rest | 
Serbia dankooo 
expected
2015-08-25 17:06
TITAN AHAHHAHA
2015-08-25 17:06
LOL
2015-08-25 17:06
Did they stop crying already ?
2015-08-25 17:06
Adding a T3 team to T1 event... n1
2015-08-25 17:06
Who is a T3 team?
2015-08-25 17:20
in his retarded opinion Titan is t3 team Titan is tier2
2015-08-25 17:24
Titan is tier 25
2015-08-31 10:01
i aren't think that
2015-08-31 13:05
qq-ing helped
2015-08-25 17:06
-Titan +Luminosity FFS
2015-08-25 17:06
#93
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
would be awesome
2015-08-25 17:11
#32
kzy | 
Germany kzy 
nice :) dont know if Titan is really fitting, but the Tournament will be awesome anyway
2015-08-25 17:07
#33
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Europe An0n0n 
Hope Titan can show what they are made of now.
2015-08-25 17:07
#34
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Germany 1criT 
Titan? FAK
2015-08-25 17:07
xD
2015-08-25 18:21
#36
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World mackzim 
team solo cry when you want something, dont work for it, just cry like a 2 year old child gj esl
2015-08-25 17:07
So expressing your opinion is crying now? EDIT: Forgot this was HLTV, ofcourse.
2015-08-25 17:08
#102
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World mackzim 
express your opnion is something like say you dont agree with something what tsm did was complain, cry and curse esl without any respect and guess what? esl added them :D 100% correct
2015-08-25 17:12
Sigh
2015-08-25 17:15
TSM deserve to play that tournament!
2015-08-25 17:16
So they disagreed with the tournament organizers because they didn't get invite, along with 99% of the CSGO Community. ESL Didn't fall under pressure from 5 TSM Players, they had the pressure of 1000 of fans, and rightfully so!
2015-08-25 17:21
source for TSM complaining, crying, and cursing please?
2015-08-25 17:22
Their twitter
2015-08-25 18:01
whose? TSM's? or the players'?
2015-08-25 18:20
Check Device's and cajun's twitter accounts, assuming they haven't deleted the post u should be able to find René calling someone an idiot and Nik being a bit pouty with some teenage-girl style, passive aggressive tweet. Altough the ranking system is obviously broken I felt the tweets were a bit childish. OBSERVE!!! I fully understand them being pissed off (the ranking is bullshit) but still don't think it's the way any professional should handle such a situation.
2015-08-25 18:32
#352
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World mackzim 
exactly my thoughts... i did think they should be invited instead of nip at the beggining, but they shouldnt be invited now because their reactions on twitter their are public figures and professionals players, not randons kids/fans that can speek whatever they want
2015-08-25 18:51
I'm sure you're one of the guy who said LDLC cry babies at DH winter right ? Now it's expressing your opinion.
2015-08-25 20:47
No i wasn't "one of those guys"
2015-08-25 20:58
Dignitas had some of TSM's achievements, ESL's world ranking is pure shit. The only one crying here is you.
2015-08-25 17:10
#115
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World mackzim 
im the only one for sure :D
2015-08-25 17:14
#130
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Germany Imperius24 
wow you are very stupid... they worked for that and the esl did a mistake. they just fixed it
2015-08-25 17:16
you must be new here
2015-08-25 17:27
+1 Toxic and childish fucking team that doesn't deserve anything good in life.
2015-08-25 17:55
They worked hard for it and got nothing by ESL so yes ofc.
2015-08-25 19:04
And Keyd stars didt cry to get to DH?
2015-08-25 22:06
#536
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World mackzim 
they do not disrespected anyone
2015-08-26 13:19
Let's hope it will be on twitch and not on shitbox/mlg. Epic battle between NiP and Titan for last spot.
2015-08-25 17:07
+1
2015-08-25 18:54
Gr8 m9s
2015-08-25 17:07
Why titan lmao
2015-08-25 17:07
because they are in the top 8 on the ESL Rankings That is how they decided who was invited to this tournament.
2015-08-25 17:12
FFS, trying to make a world ranking with automatic algorithms will never work, when will people learn? Hire a bunch of analysts and let them make the ranking.
2015-08-25 17:19
Rip Titan
2015-08-25 17:07
#41
Vietnam hcd 
bo5 group stage,bo3 semi and bo1 final
2015-08-25 17:07
nice, tsm cried their way to the event
2015-08-25 17:07
Probably have more to do with the backlash from the community then the players themselves.
2015-08-25 17:09
sry not all fnatic fanboys are like this
2015-08-25 17:11
Actually found Fnatic fans to be one of the kindest in Cologne :) Lost some respect for VP/NiP fans though :(
2015-08-25 17:16
not on hltv m8...
2015-08-25 17:17
#494
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Romania Zadro 
Most Fnatic fans don't even have the minimum age required to enter the venue. The ones you met were the very few who were actually allowed inside the venue.
2015-08-26 00:54
#43
Finland beil 
n1
2015-08-25 17:07
Titan? why.. they're tier 3
2015-08-25 17:07
Titan tier 3? Damn this plebs are special in head.
2015-08-25 17:25
Plebs? Go back to Reddit, please.
2015-08-25 17:56
I have never been on reddit...
2015-08-25 23:28
#45
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Russia S1naRk 
for what titan ?
2015-08-25 17:07
do they invite 8 more teams? (from NA, SA, AUS)
2015-08-25 17:08
nope
2015-08-25 17:24
#48
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Korea saddummy 
Easy win for TSM
2015-08-25 17:08
this
2015-08-25 21:34
lol clg got so denied since they thought they would be invited and not titan
2015-08-25 17:08
Rather have luminosity/kinguin. Those teams have shown to be better than titan as of late
2015-08-25 17:08
#52
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North America Foxaika 
Titan is rather awful at the moment, but I suppose their past achievements have netted them a place.
2015-08-25 17:08
Nbkry would be so proud of TSM's tweets to get them this invite. It made him look bad at it, they just took it to a whole new level.
2015-08-25 17:08
nice :O
2015-08-25 17:08
titan? why titan?
2015-08-25 17:08
Kinguinero please inviterino
2015-08-25 17:08
expected
2015-08-25 17:09
#59
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Portugal dascouves 
TSM <3
2015-08-25 17:09
NOO why tsm instead of SK
2015-08-25 17:09
#61
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
titan? cool story esl
2015-08-25 17:09
guys give Titan a chance..just one more time..if they dont get anything out of this than they are just overhyped and shitty team.
2015-08-25 17:09
I still prefer Luminosity or even Renegades instead of Titan. They will maybe bring more viewers from Oceania and South America. Besides, Titan were out in the groups (last match against Renegades I think?) and they are still invited...
2015-08-25 17:09
#101
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
and esl already gave 1 spot to NA, would be logical to give 1 to SA or oceania,
2015-08-25 17:12
maybe ESEA has more power in decisions than ESL, but its maybe in a dream world.
2015-08-25 17:16
AHAHAHAHA titan, not expected
2015-08-25 17:09
lol? It was 100 percent expected. If TSM was to get invited Titan would also Since they invited based off the ESL ranking.
2015-08-25 17:14
The ranking hasnt moved since cologne?
2015-08-25 17:23
the invitation won't be removed for a team that for example just left their top 8 ranking, I know it's not Titan's case, but you get the point.
2015-08-25 18:22
TSM took over NIP but no other teams are close to the top 8 in terms of points.
2015-08-25 21:38
Historically fnatic should fail as they always fail after winning a big event. Imo TSM (50%) or VP(30%) will win this unless "random" factor will be again protecting swedes. What about brackets and vetos in this event?!
2015-08-25 17:10
How is TSM 50% :D You do realise they will have to beat nV and we both know thats not going to happen. nV is about 60% for me
2015-08-25 17:34
#71
France ark~ 
Titan can TOP8 easy
2015-08-25 17:09
Hahahaha cheeky
2015-08-25 18:24
HAHA TITAN, Seriously? nooo but, seriously?????
2015-08-25 17:10
n1
2015-08-25 17:10
tl;dr
2015-08-25 17:10
now stop QQ tsm
2015-08-25 17:10
Titan doesn't deserve this. I'd love to see LG/Kinguin/mouz instead of them :-(
2015-08-25 17:10
Yup, any of these 3 deserves it more.
2015-08-25 17:44
they should invite LG for sure... after the performance they showed in ESL.. jesus Titan seriously??
2015-08-25 17:10
expected
2015-08-25 17:10
HELRAISERS?????? NOOBDUBAI
2015-08-25 17:10
YES BOYS!!! tsm to win it all
2015-08-25 17:10
Titan? are you kidding me
2015-08-25 17:10
titan lol
2015-08-25 17:10
ye invite my team as well thanks!
2015-08-25 17:10
tsm ok -titan +luminosity
2015-08-25 17:11
shoxiejesus
2015-08-25 17:11
#94
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United Kingdom tomtmh 
pretty sick, will be a major without the bullshit from a groupstage
2015-08-25 17:11
Still bo1 groups at ESL ESEA (:
2015-08-25 17:25
#99
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France Kairos1g 
crying over twitter pays off
2015-08-25 17:11
motar2k :)
2015-08-25 17:12
Surprised Titan got invited over teams like Mouz, Dignitas, Kinguin... But oh well, let's see what they can achieve here
2015-08-25 17:12
wow i guess crying on twitter really works
2015-08-25 17:12
shut up lol :D
2015-08-25 17:29
hahaha
2015-08-25 17:54
#107
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Denmark AwzuuM 
yay
2015-08-25 17:13
rofl
2015-08-25 17:13
-NiP +CLG = tier 1 tournament
2015-08-25 17:13
lol
2015-08-25 17:13
ez fo titan
2015-08-25 17:13
oh yeah baby.. this tournament gonna be sick.... full of tier one teams and 250k price pool..
2015-08-25 17:15
C9 = the opposite of what you wanna teach in life, fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail fail and get rewarded in life.
2015-08-25 17:15
lol. glad TSM have an invite, but titan? uwot
2015-08-25 17:15
rofl
2015-08-25 17:15
NICEEEEEE
2015-08-25 17:15
Titan? seriously?
2015-08-25 17:16
LoL :D
2015-08-25 17:17
#134
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Brazil IguiN 
NO LG? OK.
2015-08-25 17:17
Yay Titan,a team that cant beat Renegates is top 8!
2015-08-25 17:17
#137
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Poland kRAMERO 
titan pleas disband, and add luminosity
2015-08-25 17:17
#138
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Spain akproxx 
rolf titan
2015-08-25 17:17
ez RpKTANK
2015-08-25 17:18
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT titan ?ASDADSASA
2015-08-25 17:18
NO MOUZ? OK.
2015-08-25 17:18
lets go Titan Titan to win calling it now
2015-08-25 17:19
- NIP - CLOUD9 + LG + KINGUIM
2015-08-25 17:19
kinguin xDDD also nip never lost to LG/ex-keyd.
2015-08-25 17:21
+1 and Clown9 still better than LG
2015-08-25 17:24
titan WTF?
2015-08-25 17:19
nice
2015-08-25 17:19
WooooW
2015-08-25 17:20
lol where is kinguin and lg gg
2015-08-25 17:20
- Titan - NIP - C9 + eBettle + NerdRage + Reason gaming
2015-08-25 17:21
still ez for fnatic
2015-08-25 17:21
repeat of cologne lets go
2015-08-25 17:22
If you make this BO1 I will find you and I will kill you
2015-08-25 17:23
last ESL ESEA event was the same thing. BO1 with 8 teams lol
2015-08-25 17:33
TSM invited WTF, this cry babies
2015-08-25 17:23
#168
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Russia SemirGerkhan 
no chance for TSM anyway
2015-08-25 17:24
#169
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Germany PhoenixD!!! 
hmm following tsm´s logic shouldnt mouz get all(most) of the points from penta too since the majority of players from penta are now in mouz?
2015-08-25 17:24
-titan -C9 +Kinguin +LG.. wtf esl, why invite titan? LOL
2015-08-25 17:24
Also: -NiP +Mouz List is done! :D
2015-08-25 17:46
nt BOT STEEL :DDDDDDD
2015-08-25 17:50
#307
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Brazil Collee 
nt bot spyleader
2015-08-25 18:19
rofl, mouz,LG or kinguin would be much better
2015-08-25 17:24
#183
France yvo 
FINAL = TITAN vs NIP
2015-08-25 17:26
Afaik esl didn't update their ranking, neither IEM nor Cologne appear in it.
2015-08-25 17:27
#204
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
lol
2015-08-25 17:32
real madrid not invited 2 dubai? something is wrong kinguin > titan 4 me as neutral
2015-08-25 17:27
why titan? why not kinguin or luminosity?
2015-08-25 17:27
#189
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France Skw4ll 
Titan will take this ! You read it here first !
2015-08-25 17:27
okay TSM deserved their spot but Titan??? there are way better teams than frenchies... LG, mouz or Kinguin but okay, let's give a chance to Titan since they're next in the ranking after NiP.
2015-08-25 17:28
-titan +nerdrage
2015-08-25 17:28
amazing event now!
2015-08-25 17:29
WHERE ARE YOU AT
2015-08-25 17:29
C'mon Cloud9 LEGGOO BOYZ
2015-08-25 17:30
#201
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Brazil markkrj 
TITA???????????? Fak
2015-08-25 17:32
WTF -Titan +Mousesports?
2015-08-25 17:32
lol rlly titan? thats sad so manhy better teams than them....
2015-08-25 17:33
in final : fnatic vs eNvYus or fnatic vs Virtus Pro
2015-08-25 17:33
Nice! Now this looks like a proper event!
2015-08-25 17:33
They should thank KennyS for that :P
2015-08-25 17:34
mouze ??
2015-08-25 17:34
ez for NiP to attend quarter-final I cry T^T
2015-08-25 17:34
This is the fucking dream, had forgot about this tournament tbh!
2015-08-25 17:35
At least NiP won't finish last now...
2015-08-25 17:35
titan seriously? no
2015-08-25 17:36
Seriously? no
2015-08-25 17:37
#221
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Brazil woody77 
No Luminosity and Kinguim? 7 EU , 1 NA nice organization , monopolized...
2015-08-25 17:37
Here will NiP show their magic <3
2015-08-25 17:37
-Titan +Kinguin Plz, Titan couldn't get out of the groups.
2015-08-25 17:39
#229
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Poland MatiPasio 
+ NaVi
2015-08-25 17:40
#236
Brazil lc 
lol neither LG nor mouz
2015-08-25 17:45
Why the fuck Titan. Geez this is retarded.
2015-08-25 17:45
Everyone saying Titan shouldn't be there and all i thought was that NiP will get destroyed again.
2015-08-25 17:46
- Titan + LG please! wtf where's kinguin? -c9 + kinguin
2015-08-25 17:46
Why should they add noob teams that can only upset in best of ones?
2015-08-25 20:48
#242
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Finland ARSKASJ 
ez win for Titan
2015-08-25 17:47
Amazing job esl <3 love u!!!
2015-08-25 17:48
Guess what, VP vs fnatic in semis
2015-08-25 17:49
kinguin cant win an bo3 against anyteam in this list. +LG
2015-08-25 17:50
#284
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Italy 1nf3rn4L 
they beat VP and tell me what team beat LG in bo3 ??? *facepalm*
2015-08-25 18:05
The tears on twitter worth it, n1
2015-08-25 17:51
So fucking ez win for titan
2015-08-25 17:51
This is so fucking retarded! This only proves that being a toxic fucking kid on Twitter actually pays off.
2015-08-25 17:52
ehh, next easy major for fnatic
2015-08-25 17:53
These kinds of events is a great way of killing the sport we love! Just invite the 10 best teams instead of doing open qualifiers and let everyone earn their spot. If more and more events will look like this newer teams will never get the chance of breaking out, and a closed scene is what it will become.
2015-08-25 17:53
Sure they will. They just need to learn how to cry on Twitter properly, like TSM. It's all about those salty tears.
2015-08-25 18:00
Just no, an event like this is fine every now and then to see all the best teams battle each other.
2015-08-25 20:46
Guess sometimes the community does hold some power.
2015-08-25 17:54
Titan proably taking 6th place
2015-08-25 17:55
this is ez for nip
2015-08-25 17:55
Why they just cant add 2more slots for Kinguin and Mousesports? :/
2015-08-25 17:57
- titan + lg/kinguin?
2015-08-25 17:58
predict Fnatic x EnvyUs in the final again
2015-08-25 17:59
#275
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
titan: the bitch of the event
2015-08-25 18:01
#277
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Poland fr8_ 
Kinguin,luminosity gaming
2015-08-25 18:02
#279
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Germany Gloin 
Should have invited clg over titan, they have shown good improvement
2015-08-25 18:03
#280
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Italy 1nf3rn4L 
Titan LOL what a joke
2015-08-25 18:03
BOT Ex6tenz
2015-08-25 18:05
Titan ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahhaa
2015-08-25 18:08
Nice, GLHF boys!
2015-08-25 18:10
GOGO TITAN LET'S SHOW DEM NOW
2015-08-25 18:12
LG > Titan any day
2015-08-25 18:12
if kinguin and luminosity reach the playoffs but titan go out in last place, then why are they invited?
2015-08-25 18:13
ESL's stupid ranking..
2015-08-25 18:35
wow now Team solo cry can stop crying
2015-08-25 18:13
isn't Titan suppose to be attending gaming paradise?. Someone clear this up hltv.org/news/15721-gaming-paradise-list..
2015-08-25 18:16
#313
AdreN | 
Hungary southh 
maybe they will attend both or withdraw gaming paradise
2015-08-25 18:22
Probably gonna do gaming paradise then head straight to Dubai
2015-08-25 21:55
#508
OCEAN | 
United States 00zach 
250k > 50k.
2015-08-26 03:58
why titan
2015-08-25 18:16
EnvyUs > TSM > NaVi > RIP NIP
2015-08-25 18:21
team solocry and those who should have already retire... great addition
2015-08-25 18:23
#317
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Germany sleezy 
wtf why titan and not mouz ?
2015-08-25 18:23
nip's last chance to extend their contract yet it is so remote
2015-08-25 18:25
Lol tier2 team on ESL. Better invite CLG or Renegate!
2015-08-25 18:27
- Titan + Kinguin / mousesports
2015-08-25 18:28
Titan is a new team u know? and they didn't have good strats to major apparently :/
2015-08-25 18:30
Fuck yeeee TSM FTW!!!! -Titan ++++ mouzesports or kinguin
2015-08-25 18:32
#331
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Sweden Trojka03 
They should just have invited all Legends from ESL Cologne. If they have this big tournaments after ESL Majors, and then only invite the top 8, that would make the majors even more competitive cuz everyone would want a spot in Dubai. -C9 -Titan +Kinguin +LG
2015-08-25 18:35
Wouldn't surprise me if Titan have already split, but are just going to play this one out for the trip to Dubai.
2015-08-25 18:36
sick sick
2015-08-25 18:37
TITANIC KAPPA HAHA
2015-08-25 18:44
After how TSM players reacted, i doubt they deserve it.
2015-08-25 18:44
#367
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United States snack- 
You're a fucking moron. The reason they acted that way is because their points from Dignitas (their old sponsor) weren't counted. Because of that they weren't 4th in the ESL world Rankings so they didn't get invited. They're the second - third best team in the world if you think they don't deserve it you're out of your fucking mind
2015-08-25 19:07
Learn how to read. I said how they reacted, if ur a professional you dont react that way. So in your life, when u get a job (hopefully u will learn to read by then), if a boss raises the paycheck of the people below you, you will go to twitter/facebook, and complain to the people that are your friends including ur boss? In no way are professionals suppose to react as they did. They deserve it there is no doubt, but not after all those rage comments. You can simply write 1 comment about it, send ur PR guy, manager, someone to contact them etc. I'm sure that TSM as a company would fix this. P.S. TSM is atm 4th, vp fnatic and envyus are ahead of them, VP being the only team to take fnatic to 3 maps, even nearly won.
2015-08-25 19:15
#390
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United States snack- 
Alright first you're out of your fucking mind if you rank them 4th. Second off if I wasn't invited to a 250K tournament when I'm the 2nd best team in the world I'd be fucking enflamed. Not to mention how poorly ESL handled their ranking system to not include their points from the Dignitas days. That's fucking ludicrous
2015-08-25 19:40
#393
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United States snack- 
And ranking VP 4th for the sole reason of they took them to 3 maps? Are you that fucking braindead? TSM is the known kryptonite to fnatic and constantly beat them in bo3s. In fact I think TSM has beaten them in 6 of the last 7? Yeah you're an idiot basing something off of one tournament. Envyus ahead of TSM? So they made one final and you're counting them as a great team already? They're in a honeymoon stage with a new roster change. Look at Navi when they picked up flamie. They were like the best team in the world for like 2 weeks. Once this phase is over they'll settle in to where they belong
2015-08-25 19:42
Talking to you makes me braindead indeed. Again u didnt read what i written, i've said TSM AT THE MOMENT is 4th, next week they can be 1st, for what it matters, but they are 4th from the cologne onwards, people say ex6tenz is really good against pronax aswell, but what does that help when u cant get to the playoffs to face them. So the biggest event of the year, TSM floped, might be related to Device's mouse, which im amazed u havent brought up yet. But that doesnt change the fact, EnvyUS came prepared, TSM just crumbled down, was it karrigan? was it their ace players? Who knows, and it doesnt matter as they are 4th ATM. Envyus and vp are ahead of them ATM, might go out of groups at the dubai event, and ill say TSM is better surely. These 250k events are what makes the real top 10 not some shitty 2nd or 3rd tier lan events. That only 2-3 top tier teams attend. What has TSM accomplished? Havent won a single lan that has a prize over 40k. I'm by far not saying they are not good, or possibly nr 2. But at this cologne, they showed bad form and they deserve to be 4th, at this moment, in dubai everything can change.
2015-08-25 21:43
#497
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United States snack- 
So wait? By your logic TSM hasn't won a tournament over 40k? Alright let's use that logic and look at the teams you mentioned. VP has one 1 lan (Cevo lan where the only good team was navi) Alright there ya go nice logic. Secondly EnvyUS has played 2 tournaments and has beat TSM in both. In one tournament fans picked the maps and Envyus got every map that they wanted. It's ok that was a joke of a tournament anyway let's move on the major. So EnvyUS playd cache (envy favored map), Dust2 (TSMs the best team in the world on it), and finally they played inferno (Envy does have a slight advantage) so out of the 3 maps left in the ban phase were train (Heavily TSM favored), Inferno (already mentioned), and Mirage (TSM favored). So EnvyUS actually had a map pool that was more shallow than TSM and yet because of the major's way of picking the third map. They got let through with a map that they were favored on. Alright so maybe EnvyUS did get the best of them even though they got lucky. So let's go over each team's accomplishments. TSM has won 3 tournaments in the last 4 months. All with at least 5 top 8 teams attending. They (usually fnatic, navi, c9, Envy, and VP) have gotten I think like 8 top 4s out of the last 10 tournaments for them or something? Yeah that's more than VP and EnvyUS has accomplished all year you fucking autist. And if you consider a top4 in a major a flop then you're fucking out of your mind. Now before you pull the "Oh haha EnvyUS made it to the final of a major they're so EPIC" Yeah well so did NiP not once but TWICE with a lineup that most people considered not worthy of doing so. And what has NiP accomplished outside of that? Nothing! So you can't consider them the 2nd best team in the world even though they made the final of a major can you? Hell no you can't More than anything EnvyUS is in a brand new honeymoon phase because they just switched rosters! Look at history for this one cause I know you're a little lacking in it. NiP with maikelele just changed rosters and made the final of a major. NiP with Allu made the final of a major after just making a roster change 3 weeks prior to the major. LDLC (what became EnvyUS) won a major and won a few tournaments after because of a great "everything is great and working out" honeymoon stage Let's look at Navi. Navi was the best team in the world for like 1-2 weeks because Flamie was added to the team and everything just seemed to "work out" Honeymoon stages there ya have it in history. Enjoy being proved wrong there dumbass! You're a fucking retard!
2015-08-26 01:20
Im done, you are too stupid to understand what at the moment means, and clearly u should be on analyst desk as u know what map is favoured for every team, every fucking map but cache is TSM favoured, clearly as the amazing results show. And yes fot the second best team in the world semifinals are a flop. Go read how tennis rankings work and u'll figure something out, hopefully... Honeymoon stages (c9 shahzam, titan shox+smithzz hellraisers adren+mou) group exists n1. Ur a fucking president of TSM fan club. U just dont understand what AT THE MOMENT means. I'm done talking to you.
2015-08-26 02:25
dosent change the fact hes right, u are just a wierd TSM hater that doset know shit obv.like 75% of hltv. hes right ur wrong. deal with it! Envy got the 1 map(inf) they were favored on, as the 3rd map. #497 explains it pretty well.
2015-08-26 06:36
Yeh, except he said they are favoured on cache, the inferno being ''slightly'' favoured, which could translate on which side who starts. I actually like TSM, but their reaction on how they are top 4 team, and werent invited by ESL, was over the top. We are here to watch CS, they are getting paid for it, and it aint small + they got big prizes which they get like bonuses, and for someone to respond as they did, it wasnt right, they are professionals, not some amateurs.. None of you understand what at the moment means still? I mean if Titan wins dubai, they will be nr.1 at that exact moment, the moment when all preparations come in play and players hitting their shots (wont happen, but could). You just dont understand what at the moment means.
2015-08-26 15:44
#548
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United States snack- 
So again by your logic a team that's one of the best in the world is allowed to go to tier 2 lans, win, get paid, and are supposed to be happy with beating "Average" teams? Wait a second...They're the second best team in the world, (top 4 by your insane logic) and yet they aren't allowed to compete in a huge tournament with teams even worse than them? Yeah that's the nail in the coffin there jackass
2015-08-27 01:12
#546
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United States snack- 
I love you Danish man cheers from America
2015-08-27 01:06
#547
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United States snack- 
I wish I had the pleasure of saying TSM is from my home country.
2015-08-27 01:07
#342
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Poland kacper1401 
-titan + ebettle
2015-08-25 18:45
Finally, it'll be a great lan I think :)
2015-08-25 18:48
#349
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Brazil Gunzel 
lol. shoxie so popular in the UAE. expected
2015-08-25 18:49
Bullshit this event, -Titan +LG
2015-08-25 18:49
+1, the brazilians deserve it!
2015-08-25 18:56
Yes man, this ranking by ESL is a bullShit, In my opinion LG is better than Kinguin, Titan and maybe C9.
2015-08-25 19:12
They aren't better than C9, but I agree with LG being better than Kinguin and Titan. And they are a more interesting team, too, using intensely coordinated tactics to make up for the skill gap between them and other T1 teams.
2015-08-25 19:25
Brazilians scene put 20 thousand people on Stream.
2015-08-25 20:18
#355
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Switzerland pazzo0 
-c9 -titan +LG +kinguin
2015-08-25 18:56
-titan +titan
2015-08-25 18:56
#359
Korea yuh 
nt motar
2015-08-25 18:59
-titan +lg or kinguin
2015-08-25 19:01
If this tournament has a good format it could be considered as important as major. Maybe even higher on priority list if the format is better than the one of major. Looking forward to it
2015-08-25 19:04
#364
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United States snack- 
idk how the fuck titan got invited
2015-08-25 19:04
-titan +kinguin/mousesports/LG Titan doesnt deserve a spot here.. I dunnno how they are top 8. Its been over a year since they they had impact in the csgo scene. They hardly challenge any top teams. they are sort of lower t2 team now. Heck even E frag are more deserving.
2015-08-25 19:08
#366
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Sweden wick1 
-Titan +Luminosity fuck !
2015-08-25 19:06
titan, top kek mouz? hr? kinguin? dignitas? ex6tenz must suck really good
2015-08-25 19:08
TITAN BETS TEAM FAK U BITSH U FAKIGN SWEDISHTAN FAKOT
2015-08-25 19:38
Well done man!!!! :) Just missing Luminosity and Kinguin. The deserve.
2015-08-25 19:15
No problems here could be best tournament this year
2015-08-25 19:11
NVM WRONG TOPIC
2015-08-25 19:16
#377
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Sweden Donger89 
oh tsm can finally stop crying lmao
2015-08-25 19:15
Nice !!! Titan is sure to achieve a top 8 finish in a 250k event, first time for them ! congratz
2015-08-25 19:16
^ Lol!
2015-08-25 19:19
Kinguin nerd to earn more cred. This is a new org its just the way things are. Win some tournaments in ESL and get a top 8 placing.
2015-08-25 19:16
haha
2015-08-25 19:18
nice
2015-08-25 19:36
free money for nip again
2015-08-25 19:36
yeah , nice... good event , good money :) C'mon VP !!!!!!!
2015-08-25 19:42
NiP gonna get so buttraped, they won't be able to sit for months.
2015-08-25 19:46
Motar ivite VP ?
2015-08-25 20:00
LG would be better choice than Titan
2015-08-25 20:03
crybaby tsm will lose first round because ball don't lie
2015-08-25 20:04
#405
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
That's what I'm talking about.
2015-08-25 20:06
-Titan + Kinguin plz
2015-08-25 20:07
why Titan? lol hahaha
2015-08-25 20:14
yep -Titan +Kinguin
2015-08-25 20:23
#419
Ryu7z | 
France Impak 
titan to win ez.
2015-08-25 20:29
#420
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CIS GARBAGARE 
+kinguin
2015-08-25 20:35
-fnatic +lg/mouz
2015-08-25 20:37
This should be an interesting event. My bet is on either TSM or Envy winning it. Both have something to prove. I'd like to see C9 in form but there's no weak teams here. I'd like to see them at least make the semi-finals, but won't be easy. I do not think Kinguin or NiP will surprise. Titan has some opportunities but I'd be surprised to see them in the semi-finals. For that matter, I'd be surprised to see C9 in the semifinals. Hoping, but not expecting.
2015-08-25 20:37
Luminosity and kinguin too! Cmon! :D
2015-08-25 20:39
sry for navi, tbr
2015-08-25 20:45
#428
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El Salvador jayss 
TSM cried their way into the tournament, pretty impressive, EnvyUs should take notes.
2015-08-25 20:47
TSM deserves a spot, titan on the other hand...well not so much
2015-08-25 20:47
-C9 -TITAN +LG +KINGUIN
2015-08-25 20:48
Titan? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahaha
2015-08-25 20:56
#440
f0rest | 
Romania 69sRs 
Along with fnatic they will be out in groups anyway, nip will win this tournament pretty easy.
2015-08-25 21:07
NICE
2015-08-25 21:11
WOO another major tournament so close
2015-08-25 21:17
Motar2k organisation?
2015-08-25 21:24
#448
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Argentina YH!one 
Fuck you ESL ranks Titan is shit, LG deserve the spot much more than them.
2015-08-25 21:25
-titan +mouz
2015-08-25 21:25
ESL shouldn't have given in to TSM's whining and crying
2015-08-25 21:26
#451
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Turkey powergs 
VP take it all
2015-08-25 21:26
Titan shouldn´t get the invite though... But TSM gets to play so im happy :)
2015-08-25 21:45
#462
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Turkey Bamfitz 
#GONINJAS!
2015-08-25 21:50
+LG? :D
2015-08-25 21:50
#464
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France cedd 
Luminosity/Kinguin definitely deserve it more...
2015-08-25 21:51
Any reason why?
2015-08-25 21:55
Blind? Stupid? Troll?
2015-08-25 22:03
all this ofc
2015-08-25 23:13
mad biased lg fanboi
2015-08-26 09:10
luminosity? why lol? No reason? luminosity above tsm/titan/c9?
2015-08-26 09:10
sponsored by motar2k?
2015-08-25 22:03
LG/Kinguin/Mouz would deserve more than this lineup of Titan They didn't proved nothing so far. Anyway seems like a good tornament
2015-08-25 22:08
lg proved a lot lol.
2015-08-26 09:11
more than this new titan lineup ;)
2015-08-26 18:00
LG attended 10 events since jan 2015,matches won bo3 = 0 Titan attended 1 event,matches won bo3 - 0 Nice work there fox fan.
2015-08-26 20:10
Yeah, I've a portuguese flag so I'm a fox fan, that kid logic but I won't even bother awnser that. The events LG/KeyD did take they've made more than Titan has this year, both this and the old lineup. Kinguin have way better results since inception in relation to old/new line up of Titan on that time. Mouz is by far, and I emphasize the by far part better than Titan since the Penta players joined Mouz. So why would titan get invited? Because of some ludacris rank by ESL that places Titan as #8 worldwide. The same rank keeps LDLC on a #17 worldwide because of one ENTIRE old line-up and place them over Renegades and Gplay HLTV logic.
2015-08-27 02:18
motar2k now sponsored fnatic ))
2015-08-25 22:30
titan? why?
2015-08-25 22:37
So, no Kinguin, no mousesports or even dignitas, but Titan? Ridiculous.
2015-08-25 22:44
+ luminosity
2015-08-25 23:12
lol lg> titan, nip atm
2015-08-25 23:12
Retarded autistic lg fankid
2015-08-26 09:36
#484
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Brazil RisenNTC 
Titan ? what a joke ... LG > Titan anyday :)
2015-08-25 23:18
#492
s1mple | 
Turkey Hemta1 
Nt 7-1
2015-08-26 00:08
Na`Vi or Luminosity would have deserved that Titan spot a lot more than them
2015-08-25 23:31
+1
2015-08-25 23:34
I see the reborn fnatic Nv
2015-08-26 00:57
Can someone help me installing minecraft mods?
2015-08-26 02:41
Delete system32, than your minecraft mod will work. Your welcome.
2015-08-27 11:20
#502
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Argentina Zyven 
+luminosity
2015-08-26 02:43
#503
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Brazil hugoooo 
Titan doesn't deserve the spot
2015-08-26 02:48
Titan is a wasted spot
2015-08-26 03:55
ez4shoxie
2015-08-26 05:03
titan? lal, why?
2015-08-26 08:03
lol titan
2015-08-26 08:33
TIT@N??? watafak b1tch... why it wasnt team from cologne? LG,EBATTLE,MOUZ???
2015-08-26 08:36
ebattle lmao lg lol mouz rofl
2015-08-26 09:35
So people dont want to give titan a chance at all,but want to give chances to LG and renegades! Some are even saying that C9 dont deserve a chance. But even though i dont like C9 that much,they actually have decent results against good EU Teams. But LG/Renegades have attended a lot many events than the new titan,and have not come close to beating a top team in a bo3,and a select few upsets in Bo1. Inb4 mad lg fanbois say "We beat fnatic on mirage",yes you did,8 months ago,and you again came close on mirage few days ago. So a team should be invited because they came close to beating a good team on their favourite map ? Bull shit lol. The only other team who actually deserves a slot is navi.
2015-08-26 09:18
Yeah, people dont give a lot of chances to titan because they dont finished in top 8 in lasts 2 majors. But titan is a solid team, will be a surprize if they dont finish top 8. They can even go 16-0 all tournament if they want, ex6 is capable of leading his team out in the groups.
2015-08-26 11:22
we want to see motar2k...
2015-08-26 10:16
#525
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Serbia whoa!! 
this reminds me how i cried and got my videogame when i was kid
2015-08-26 10:26
can't wait :) GJ m2k!
2015-08-26 10:41
lol @ Titan lol @ NiP , what a bullshit. You should think the best teams would participate , but this is just like cruijff and pele and maradonna hope they got hyped becouse of their names instead of their preformences nowadays.
2015-08-26 10:58
hope there will be pov streams with teamspeak like they were there last time on esl pro league in the beginning of the year
2015-08-26 12:00
+kinguin comon
2015-08-26 14:18
asdf
2015-08-26 14:52
Should be ez for TSM
2015-08-26 15:28
ez tsm
2015-08-26 17:57
Will be better than the major.
2015-08-26 21:00
#558
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Europe smaletski 
gj Reginald
2015-08-27 11:13
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