DH Open Cluj groups revealed

The groups for the upcoming major, DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca, which runs from October 28-November 1, have just been announced on DreamHack's website.

As usual, the teams were given "Legendary" and "Challenger" statuses, according to how they qualified for the major (eight from the previous major, eight from the LAN qualifier) with two of each placed in each group.

In likely the most competitive major so far, it looks like Titan will have an even harder time than usual to make it out of group stage, as they have been handed a tough group alongside Virtus.pro and NiP, as well as Liquid.


Titan have been dealt a tough hand

The veto system of the group stage has been changed significantly, interestingly enough the first to veto will actually get three vetoes. The other team only gets two, but has the right to pick the starting side on the map chosen randomly out of the last two:

  • 1. Team #1 vetoes map
  • 2. Team #2 vetoes map
  • 3. Team #1 vetoes map
  • 4. Team #2 vetoes map
  • 5. Team #1 vetoes map
  • 6. A randomizer will choose between the remaining two maps
  • 7. Team #2 chooses sides

Without further ado, these are the groups for the seventh CS:GO major:

Group A Group B Group C  Group D
Sweden fnatic Denmark TSM Poland Virtus.pro France EnVyUs
Brazil Luminosity Europe G2 Sweden NiP CIS Na`Vi
United States Cloud9 Germany mousesports France Titan United States CLG
Poland Vexed Ukraine FlipSid3 United States Liquid Denmark dignitas

The first three days have been reserved for the group stage, which will mostly beplayed in a best-of-one, barring the decider match, featuring a best-of-three.

If you'd like to come to the event in person, head over to Esportshop to buy tickets. Bear in mind that the first day of groups will be closed off to the general public.

wow... those groups are pretty close
2015-10-19 17:04
RIP Liquid
2015-10-19 17:04
RIP Titan too. poor Titan not gonna get out of groups once again, except if NIP is gonna slack We might finally see cloud9 get out of groups though xD
2015-10-19 17:07
I hope Titan>NiP
2015-10-19 17:09
Titan>VP just wait and watch.
2015-10-19 17:12
2 years later...
2015-10-19 17:52
I hope that too, Titan deserve one spot on quarter-finals more than NiP..
2015-10-19 20:08
#578
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Sweden larsbananas 
They gotta earn it to deserve it. Ridiculous statement. Titan has failed over and over in majors and they "deserve" to make it out of groups because of their failures? Typical envy-filled boy.
2015-10-19 21:17
Yeah, a team can't "deserve" a win or spot, they have to earn it. But what can you expect from fox fanboys?
2015-10-19 21:59
#656
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United States darkun 
anyone whose #1 favorite is kinguin is a cs:go viewing noob. bunch of "allstars" who can't hold a spot on a actual team LOL
2015-10-20 02:49
We most likely will see C9 out of groups, Luminosity and Vexed shouldn't be too much of a problem for them but you never know...
2015-10-19 17:14
With Luminosity it's gonna be close I guess. Remember Immunity beat C9 in australia xD
2015-10-19 17:16
vexxed fucked hellraiser with s1mple in it so if i was C9 i wouldnt fuck with them
2015-10-19 17:19
#657
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United States darkun 
unless your fnatic or TSM, you better prepare for every team in your group because all these teams have proven they can win on certain days.
2015-10-20 02:50
I actually think Liquid have a chance in this group beating Titan and NiP.
2015-10-19 17:23
If any team in that group plays to their lowest ability then they are in danger of losing to Liquid, also Virtus.Pro. But it is unlikely any of them are gonna show up at DH and not be ready for this tournament.
2015-10-19 17:32
Liquid are going in there with nothing to lose. For a first major it gonna be great for Fugly and elige. Hopefully adren and hiko will be able to make them confortable in front of a huge croud.
2015-10-19 17:47
>great for Fugly and Elige You mean the onliners? That'd be embarrassing for them
2015-10-19 18:16
-Fugly -onliner k How much? xddd
2015-10-19 18:27
Elige has been performing better and better on LAN, but there is still some way to go and Liquid is still like most NA teams, simply not good enough tactically to be a big threat to these top teams, unless the top teams underperform.
2015-10-19 18:28
#658
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United States darkun 
the best way to beat NA is pure strategy.. if they get to cocky and try to get into aim duels, thats how Liquid can make it out of groups.
2015-10-20 02:52
RIP TITAN
2015-10-19 17:43
willl titan face VP or NIP
2015-10-19 17:32
GL LIQUID hahaha
2015-10-19 17:51
#609
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Norway Scrotimus 
Fnatic and Cloud9 TSM and FlipSide- this is a hard one!! VP and NiP or Titan, also a hard one!! EnVy and Na'Vi
2015-10-19 23:21
Inb4 c9 lose to luminosity because c9 can't make major playoffs and lumi always seem to show up at majors
2015-10-21 16:20
#688
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Slovakia radeoNko 
Wtf 3 usa team. 3 polish?
2015-10-20 08:12
r.i.p murica
2015-10-20 12:47
rip vexed ;/
2015-10-21 20:35
Titan always get screwed.
2015-10-19 17:04
if ex6 can counter strat nip and shox and scream go godlike you never know
2015-10-19 17:32
No,titan can make it ez, since friberg will eat hotdog and allu will drink Redbull. Kappa. May be Gtr become igl and f0rest go to jail? Kappa.
2015-10-19 17:36
yeah so xizt and gtr 2v5 ez right
2015-10-19 18:49
ez if gtr is calling
2015-10-19 21:54
he is not flusha my friend
2015-10-20 01:19
I was not first gg
2015-10-19 17:04
#5
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Japan kdeN 
sick
2015-10-19 17:04
Ez Titan
2015-10-19 17:04
titan to fall out of groups... again
2015-10-20 11:02
group C :o OP
2015-10-19 17:04
Group A is so fucking easy lmao
2015-10-19 17:04
#12
Kazakhstan Asya 
ez nip
2015-10-19 17:04
#14
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Sweden FiffylaureN 
Fnatic hardest group
2015-10-19 17:04
Kappa
2015-10-19 17:07
#15
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France MarioReL 
Titan out of groups again..so sad :///
2015-10-19 17:04
#98
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Ukraine FaZe_UW0TM8 
Actually i can smell an upset this time. Would be fun to have nip or vp out for once ;D
2015-10-19 17:11
#110
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France MarioReL 
Don't think VP but NiP is possible even if i aren't think that..
2015-10-19 17:12
Nip like always hard times in group stage but then i hope they semi finall this shit or even win. But probably wont happen D: . Ik englando perfecto
2015-10-19 17:38
Dud I m frm future and Jst see nip performance in dis major =)
2015-10-20 09:31
rip nip, end of easy groups
2015-10-19 17:04
gl navi
2015-10-19 17:04
GO TTIAN U CAN DO THIS
2015-10-19 17:04
rip nip or titan out again?
2015-10-19 17:05
titan gonna be hard, but it is possible
2015-10-19 17:10
#23
Peru Op1e 
ez for liquid noKappa
2015-10-19 17:04
NiP actually got hard group??
2015-10-19 17:05
#25
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Hong Kong TurboJET 
LMAO Fnatic, tough group Kappa
2015-10-19 17:04
#26
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Sweden akid0s 
Let's go!
2015-10-19 17:05
Fnatic again havin the easiest group LMAO
2015-10-19 17:05
Probably because they have first seed? So hard to understand.
2015-10-19 17:06
last major, it was nV who had the easiest group, LG, G2, and fucking Flipside. it depends only on their luck.
2015-10-19 17:47
#521
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
The only group that passed 3 to Legends, was the easiest group?? ok.. Best logic ever
2015-10-19 20:10
Uhhh... the team that LG played to get out of group stage were fucking Flipside and Kinguin had to play c9 in elimination map, those were not good teams by any mean. And they both got trounced in Q final, so that getting pass the group stage doesn't mean much.
2015-10-20 01:46
4 teams have first seed, and it's a random draw, right? In which case it's all luck :p
2015-10-19 17:55
Yes, but I am probably retarded like "HelloHLTV" thinks :PPPP
2015-10-19 18:13
Chill down, I don't think that you are retard.
2015-10-19 21:09
Just noticed that 1 and 2 places in group are the same as quarters.
2015-10-19 21:06
Yup! And as a lifelong NIP fan... NIP FINALLY DON'T HAVE THE EASIEST GROUP. Although, I'm still hopeful they can get at least to quarters ^^ maybe as 1st in the group if they get lucky :p All in all, it looks like great matches all around!
2015-10-19 21:31
#28
allu | 
Finland Fherrera 
rip titan :(
2015-10-19 17:05
#29
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Brazil CHEMyyy 
rip titan again lol
2015-10-19 17:05
#30
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Czech Republic Lichna 
Rip titan or nip
2015-10-19 17:05
probably titan imo
2015-10-19 18:29
rip both..Liquid is going to smash em
2015-10-19 20:27
well at least NiP doesn't have the easiest group for once.
2015-10-19 17:05
Yes, finally! Luck had to run out at some point.
2015-10-19 17:06
Luck? Wtf r y talking? In all of previous majors they have first seed, now they don't. Fnatic first seed -> ez group.
2015-10-19 17:08
yea ppl are so dumb they think they just draw all of them
2015-10-19 17:14
Are you retarded? It's random. >how do you even rank quarter finalists
2015-10-19 19:31
No its not :DD lol u are so stupid holy fuck
2015-10-19 20:07
Tell me how? How do you seed first seed? how do you figure out the weakest quarter finalist? how do we figure out the weakest challenger? Dont talk if you don't know anything ;)
2015-10-19 20:09
u must be troll. do not reply to me anymore
2015-10-19 20:11
>realises hes wrong >backs out of argument
2015-10-19 20:11
final, semifinal quarter finals rest rest now gtfo kid
2015-10-19 20:17
LMFAO youre still retarded top 4 random quarter random challenge random challenger get the fuck out autist. ;)
2015-10-20 01:40
exactly what i said
2015-10-24 04:06
get rekt
2015-10-24 04:03
k peace im guessing i won this argument
2015-10-19 20:13
Now Mr.Brain, still considering seeding, move NIP to group D instead of Navi. Looks a lot easier now? The thickness on some ppl.
2015-10-19 17:18
Best tournament ever?
2015-10-19 17:05
go Titan <3
2015-10-19 17:05
[*] Liquid
2015-10-19 17:05
:( Hardest group by far, now the Brazilians will laugh at us when they qualify with the easiest group (only competition = Fnatic)
2015-10-19 21:31
*NIP* out from group stage RIP
2015-10-19 17:05
no nip will win this major their last major loss has woken them up and they have completely fixed all problems they had! kappa
2015-10-20 00:24
that group c tho lmao
2015-10-19 17:05
#39
jebsu | 
Finland darppis 
RIP Liquid.
2015-10-19 17:05
#40
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Canada Ayton 
group c wtf
2015-10-19 17:05
Group B will definitely be the most entertaining!
2015-10-19 17:05
poor titan :))
2015-10-19 17:05
shiiieeet
2015-10-19 17:05
light a candle for liquid [*]
2015-10-19 17:05
fnatic sooo lucky
2015-10-19 17:05
reroll or riot
2015-10-19 17:05
#61
Peru Op1e 
[*]
2015-10-19 17:07
yes my friend
2015-10-19 17:15
#158
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Serbia whoa!! 
what? tarik is a kebab?
2015-10-19 17:17
yes -hazed +xantares
2015-10-20 13:02
[*]
2015-10-19 19:36
Sign my nipple at LAN
2015-10-19 21:06
#573
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Brazil Collee 
[*]
2015-10-19 21:09
c,d death b bad
2015-10-19 17:06
nV ez, rip NiP, group A is the best
2015-10-19 17:06
Someone really doesnt want to see titan ever advance to playoffs lel
2015-10-19 17:06
another major for vexed , gl
2015-10-19 17:06
#58
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France MarioReL 
My predictions : A - Fnatic, C9 B - TSM, Mouz C - NiP, VP D - nV, NaVi
2015-10-19 17:07
#176
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Argentina ECSBOX 
TSM G2
2015-10-19 17:20
the easy group is D i think
2015-10-19 17:07
#60
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Russia stat1c 
FIRST TIME IN A LONG TIME C9 GOES TO PLAYOFFS HAHA CONGRATZ GUYS
2015-10-19 17:07
Or not
2015-10-19 17:09
That would be funny :D.
2015-10-19 17:12
fnatic hardest group
2015-10-19 17:07
Group A and C are the death groups..
2015-10-19 17:07
nt fallen, group a so easy for fnatic and c9
2015-10-19 17:10
nah.. C9 historically don't make to playoffs..
2015-10-19 17:11
but this time haven't VP in groups.. C9 > LG in any day, in any map
2015-10-19 17:14
believe me.. this will be tough, even FNS is saying, its hard to predict the group A, 2spot, just because its a bo3 decider
2015-10-19 17:46
The fact that it is a bo3 decider should make it even more clear who will make it or not since it's less likely to be an upset...*cough* Fnatic&C9 *cough*
2015-10-20 00:43
lg win over c9 isn't a upset.. they are 1x1 in lans..
2015-10-20 10:54
Except C9 has been wayyy better than LG both online and on lan the last 4-5 months. Saying LG beating C9 isn't an upset is pretty ignorant
2015-10-20 13:10
Group A not death group lol
2015-10-19 17:46
group A is the weakest group
2015-10-19 18:31
nah, this is group B
2015-10-20 10:55
tsm = fnatic lg < g2 c9 < mouz vexed < flip
2015-10-21 04:09
Group A 4Head
2015-10-19 17:07
c9 again to fall on group stage GO LG PORRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015-10-19 17:07
#67
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Argentina Evzy 
Where is Cluj-Napoca? I need to know
2015-10-19 17:07
group C, gg wp
2015-10-19 17:07
All groups are interesting, but group C is something else!
2015-10-19 17:08
Damn, NiP, VP and Titan in the same group. Goodluck guys <3
2015-10-19 17:08
VP is not half-fnatic a chance for the final
2015-10-19 17:08
#74
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
Group C will be fun to watch
2015-10-19 17:09
RIP NIP
2015-10-19 17:09
Go EnVyUs!!! It's ok for Luminosity. And let's try Titan!!
2015-10-19 17:09
ez for tsm and fnatic lol
2015-10-19 17:09
#83
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Norway kashmir123 
Group B is group of death because no NA teams
2015-10-19 17:09
titan wont get through again i guess
2015-10-19 17:09
#90
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Russia Reph 
omg Na'Vi
2015-10-19 17:09
Finally VP and c9 are not in the same group.
2015-10-19 17:10
1st places in groups: Fnatic, TSM, NiP and Envy
2015-10-19 17:10
#97
Slovakia mshh 
A - fnatic,Cloud9 B - TSM,mouz C - Titan,NiP/VP D - EnVy,NaVi
2015-10-19 17:10
Fnatic Cloud9 TSM G2 VP NiP EnvyUs Na'Vi Titan will never make it out of groups, lel.
2015-10-19 17:11
#105
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Lithuania karkeris 
not bad groups RiP titan [*] :(
2015-10-19 17:11
Don't forget that Titan play very well against VP and that they have players who are known for playing good against NIP. Upset chance is really high.
2015-10-19 17:44
NiP will probably go out in groups and finally we will see a roster change.
2015-10-19 17:11
it happened boys C9 VP not in same group XD
2015-10-19 17:11
#109
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Brazil ;---) 
best possible group for luminosity
2015-10-19 17:11
xD
2015-10-19 17:12
Cya mouz, hopefully theyll change their fucking roster after that
2015-10-19 17:12
rip Titan unless nip are really going to fuck up
2015-10-19 17:12
LG with the easiast groups on the planet...AGAIN lol It sucks to be a team liquid fan right now because that group is brutal same for CLG. c9 is basically our only hope with these groupings.
2015-10-19 17:13
#135
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Brazil ;---) 
+1
2015-10-19 17:14
LG will go home first, mark my words.
2015-10-19 17:29
i believe that too
2015-10-19 18:42
lol liquid every lan tourny they go, they get paired up with at least of top 5 teams at least its VP/NIP this time instead of Fnatic/TSM
2015-10-19 20:30
They get put in groups with them because that's how the seeding works -_-. Every group has a top 5 at lans
2015-10-20 14:29
titan is allways getting fucked xD
2015-10-19 17:13
Ez for C9, only threat is fnatic. Finally NA to make it out of groups in 2015???
2015-10-19 17:13
#121
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Poland coincc 
A fnatic Cloud9 B TSM G2 C VP Titan D Envy Navi 1/4 TSM fnatic VP Envy 1/2 fnatic Envy final fnatic ez
2015-10-19 17:13
nope I want final VP vs EnVyUs
2015-10-19 17:17
+1
2015-10-19 17:47
#661
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United States darkun 
lol you want?
2015-10-20 02:57
A - C9/Luminosity B - TSM/Mouz C - Liquid/NIP D - CLG/Na'Vi 1/4 - Luminosity/MouZ/Liquid/CLG 1/2 - Mouz/Liquid T1 - Liquid Ez...Earth Implodes Putin gets nominated ruler of Universe
2015-10-20 23:40
hardest group C and quater finalist are A - fnatic, C9 B - TSM, Fsid3 C - NiP Virtus pro or Titan D - Envyus, na'vi
2015-10-19 17:13
hahah rip c9. out in groups again
2015-10-19 17:13
[*] Titan
2015-10-19 17:13
#126
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Brazil emezix 
fnatic is luminosity's Kryptonite
2015-10-19 17:15
Luminosity always with ez groups.. But ok, GL to all and rip c9 and nip [*]
2015-10-19 17:14
easy group for c9, the fanboys will be back :/
2015-10-19 17:14
#130
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Brazil 1RevoLTz 
Nice groups...
2015-10-19 17:14
NIP WILL GO OUT IN GROUPS FOR THE FIRST TIME HAHA titan ez
2015-10-19 17:15
pathetic. players like smithzz, ex6 and rpk will never make it out of groups ever again in their careers. you cant have a team with only two good players and make it out of groups in 2015.
2015-10-19 17:16
thanks for taking the bait
2015-10-19 17:37
Liquid is beating nip, not Titan ayy lmao
2015-10-19 18:52
wow, LG good luck!
2015-10-19 17:15
they are already out
2015-10-19 17:16
Don't put your foot in it, wait... and you will see!
2015-10-19 17:55
they are already out
2015-10-19 17:56
Where is your country in major?
2015-10-19 17:59
i'm brazilian
2015-10-19 18:06
C9/MOUZ/TITAN LET'S GO
2015-10-19 17:15
this is titan's time to shine
2015-10-19 17:16
RiP Titan :(
2015-10-19 17:17
A-fnatic,Luminosity; B-TSM,G2; C-VP,NIP; D-EnVyUs,Na`Vi;
2015-10-19 17:17
c9 finaly to playoffs?!?!
2015-10-19 17:17
RIP HIKO HOMIES
2015-10-19 17:17
#160
chrisJ | 
France Escher 
FNC-c9 TSM-Mouz VP-Titan nV-NaVi
2015-10-19 17:18
#498
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North America ewo 
c9 are the weakest link in group a imo
2015-10-19 19:42
#161
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Australia .depuTy 
how do america get 3 spots with their shitty teams but no AU teams and even hellraisers wud go better than clg
2015-10-19 17:18
#174
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Finland Emvi 
because there was an international lan qualifier where 3 NA teams got through and the AU teams failed
2015-10-19 17:20
#277
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Philippines gicama_ 
Dumb aussie spotted... NA earned those 3slots Liquid fucking destroyed your precious renegades
2015-10-19 17:44
Nope all those teams failed to qualify and don't deserve a spot.
2015-10-19 17:47
AU CS EleGiggle
2015-10-19 18:53
#705
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Australia .depuTy 
suk me nob ya dum yanks
2015-10-20 12:00
#165
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Brazil R_ananias 
Luminosity in fnatic's group again???? Really?
2015-10-19 17:18
again??? it's the first time
2015-10-19 17:40
A: fnatic - C9 B: TSM - mouse C: VP - Liquid D: Envy - Na'Vi
2015-10-19 17:19
this is exactly the way i see it also. People are sleeping on liquid HUGE
2015-10-19 20:31
group c [*]
2015-10-19 17:20
is this the first time VP and c9 are in seperate groups? xD i think so
2015-10-19 17:20
This major will show the BEST titan ever quote me on this motherfuckers *!! #GOTITAN !
2015-10-19 17:20
they already did 0 wins , can't do better
2015-10-19 18:04
VP isn't in a group with C9? SOMETHING WENT WRONG. PLEASE REDRAW
2015-10-19 17:21
Damn, CLG and Titan have it hard lol
2015-10-19 17:22
#186
f0rest | 
Romania twrbo 
group c :( i cri everitiem
2015-10-19 17:22
group B easy for tsm
2015-10-19 17:22
#188
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Brazil Nobuga 
RIP LIQUID
2015-10-19 17:23
Huh, with current VP form i rly doubt they will actually advance from this group
2015-10-19 17:23
Alwz such group for titan..GLHF to every team
2015-10-19 17:23
wow, again rigged groups
2015-10-19 17:23
#195
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Finland Emvi 
most competetive major yet. Would love to see mouz over g2 and dig over nv. And c9 into a legend.
2015-10-19 17:24
More like mouz will be beaten by F3 and close match-up G2 vs. F3. In conditions like these mouz have almost no chance to be at least 3rd in group
2015-10-19 17:27
#213
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Finland Emvi 
we'll see
2015-10-19 17:28
fnatic vexed LG again loool
2015-10-19 17:24
nice groups
2015-10-19 17:24
#200
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Poland enterq18 
RIP Group C
2015-10-19 17:25
easiest group for clown9
2015-10-19 17:25
RIP FlipSid3 RIP Liquid RIP Luminosity RIP Dignitas
2015-10-19 17:26
vexed again first match vs fnatic... and vp group of death valve hate polish teams confirmed
2015-10-19 17:26
C9 in a group without VP or nV? Holy shit
2015-10-19 17:27
ikr its liquid in group of death this time
2015-10-19 17:39
Titan group of death
2015-10-19 17:28
#215
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Finland Jiksu 
RIP liquid for sure
2015-10-19 17:29
Titan and NA teams out in group stage once again
2015-10-19 17:29
C9 have a small chance to make it out
2015-10-19 17:29
True, but in their current performance and how LG prepares for the major, I would believe them more
2015-10-19 17:38
Titan do have a pretty good chance of beating VP as they play well against them. Titan have players that play good against NIP If Titan play good and come prepared they can make an upset happen
2015-10-19 17:48
I agree that they can upset but I can't see VP kicked out in group stage. If anyone, it is going to be NiP
2015-10-19 18:00
I think if Titan somehow(Doubt it) Manage to upset to first seed. VP will steamroll NIP in that case.
2015-10-19 18:03
I can agree with that :)
2015-10-19 18:04
rip titan(or nip xD)
2015-10-19 17:29
#552
f0rest | 
Latvia prof1k 
rip VP I think
2015-10-19 20:43
no way vp could lose in groups on major
2015-10-19 20:47
RIP LG RIP Liquid RIP CLG
2015-10-19 17:30
well, time to go home LG
2015-10-19 17:31
Go Luminosity <3.
2015-10-19 17:32
GRP A : fnatic - c9/luminosity Fnatic is a clear cut but can struggle vs c9 in a bo1 but will certainly proceed . Luminosity vs C9 is tough , luminosity got a decent map pool and it will come to pick/ban. GRP B : TSM - G2/Mouz TSM topping the groups , all the three other teams is a coin toss because all of them are pretty much equal with f3 being slightly weaker so I am looking forward to this group more than others because most probably it will result in close-matches and many down to the wire rounds . GRP C : VP - Titan/NIP VP might struggle versus NIP/titan but I think their recent form proves that they are more than capable of proceeding . Liquid is just a nomatch for titan , Titan doesn't play loosely and liquid relies on the same old NA pug style which is get an entryfrag similar to NIP who also rely on entryfragging and not set tactics .It will come down to Titan versus NIP , and the french got firepower , support and IGL . This is where NIP break. GRP D : NV - Na'vi Definitely gonna be the most boring to watch , because both teams are too hot to lose in a bo1 so let alone a bo3 specifically against a team like CLG or even Dignitas who I think on LAN just don't have enough firepower with Kjaber really inconsistent and pimp not having the best of forms . Players to lookout for , ones who will definitely make or break their teams success or failure . GRP A - Skadoodle & Fallen GRP B - Dennis & Nex GRP C - Shox & GTR GRP D - Aizy & Tarik
2015-10-19 17:32
nobody could have listed clear favorites and underdogs any better mate thank u captain obvious
2015-10-19 17:38
and out of all the captains of obvious , why choose me to reply to ? carry on mate , trolling from a mile away
2015-10-19 17:43
cuz i saw how much work u been putting in that post anyways its rly ok that u just made that post but it rly made me smile sorry if i offended u in any way
2015-10-19 17:46
you had one sentence of mixed praise then a sentence of sarcasm , so I don't and didn't know what to make of it . Anyway you read it , hope you enjoyed
2015-10-19 17:48
#622
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Estonia gugaep 
+1
2015-10-20 00:15
inb4 c9 hits fnatic :D
2015-10-19 17:33
RIP titan and liquid hopes
2015-10-19 17:33
ez for at least one american team to make through so gooder group xDD
2015-10-19 17:33
sick groups, but I think this Major will be the least interesting one because of recent game changes. big plays are getting harder and harder to come by.
2015-10-19 17:34
The first three days have been reserved for the group stage, which will mostly beplayed in a best-of-one, barring the decider match, featuring a best-of-three. "beplayed".. nice typo hltv
2015-10-19 17:34
c9 finally making it out of groups
2015-10-19 17:35
lg>c9 bro
2015-10-19 17:37
look at the results, c9 rekt lg every time
2015-10-19 17:39
online
2015-10-19 17:42
c9s lan achievements >>>>>> lgs lan achievements I don't think lg have even won a bo3 on lan against eu
2015-10-19 17:44
WOW GUYS WE'VE WON A BO3 AGAINTS FNATIC ON A 5K CHAMP! WE'RE THE LEGENDS!
2015-10-19 18:08
someone seems a bit salty
2015-10-19 18:11
HAHAHAHAHAHA I ARENT THINK THAT
2015-10-19 17:38
c9>LG ? you know LG sucks , steel needs to get dropped and boltz needs to step up
2015-10-19 17:44
liquid is having c9 treatment by having a group of death dreams are gonna be shattered that day
2015-10-19 17:36
lucky navi
2015-10-19 17:37
rip titan.. they honestly always get the worst group
2015-10-19 17:37
ofc VP in group of death again!
2015-10-19 17:38
#253
Brazil d1k 
Fnatic, C9 TSM mouz VP Titan Envy Navi
2015-10-19 17:38
group C is op
2015-10-19 17:39
will fnatic at least get some kind of handicap settings? like 4on5 or something? otherwise no competition, even tho i dont really like them.
2015-10-19 17:40
SoloMid<3
2015-10-19 17:42
preparing for eye cancer on dignitas games
2015-10-19 17:42
RiP liquid and titan :(
2015-10-19 17:44
#274
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
fnatic is now old NiP: Gets easy groups Not top 1 team anymore (TSM, nV, VP > fnatic) Still magically makes it to every major final
2015-10-19 17:44
eZ for Luminosity! GO LG!!!
2015-10-19 17:44
finally no VP-fnatic semis?
2015-10-19 17:45
If cloud9 doesn't make it out of the groups now, RIP.
2015-10-19 17:45
hard group for NiP ;( rip edit: god allu to 40 bomb Kappa
2015-10-19 17:47
omg, another decider match between g2 and f3 incoming
2015-10-19 17:47
NiP will win this major!
2015-10-19 17:48
'd love too see hr there oskar > world
2015-10-19 17:50
vexed to shatter c9 and lgs dream ;)
2015-10-19 17:50
Finally c9 to get out of groups
2015-10-19 17:51
Also group c the group of DEATH RIP NIP
2015-10-19 17:53
A - Fnatic , C9 B - TSM , G2 C - VP , Titan D - eNvYus , Na'Vi
2015-10-19 17:53
-g2 +mouz
2015-10-19 17:54
A - C9, LG B - mouz, Flipside C - Liquid, Titan D - CLG, dignitas
2015-10-19 18:57
nt titan again
2015-10-19 17:53
the first matches will be NiP vs liquid or titan ?
2015-10-19 17:54
#313
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World smash143 
If c9 don't make it out of this group, then they should just disband. Seriously, they are practically giving them a free quarter final with LG in the group.
2015-10-19 17:55
True
2015-10-19 18:12
#316
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Brazil woody77 
Game Predictions: A) Fnatic,Luminosity,Cloud9,Vexed Fnatic x Vexed - Fnatic Cloud9 x Luminosity - Cloud9 Fnatic x Cloud9 - Fnatic Luminosity x Vexed - Luminosity Luminosity x Cloud9 - Luminosity (Cloud9 is better on overall , but LG have the potential to defeat the C9 once, but will depend on the luck here) B) TSM,G2,mousesports,Flipside TSM x Flipside - TSM G2 x mousesports - mousesports TSM x mousesports - TSM G2 x Flipside - Flipside mousesports vs Flipside - mousesports (G2 is a strong team, still believe they will have problems due the recent changes, I believe that the 2nd position will be disputed between Flipside and mousesports) C) Virtus.pro,NiP,Titan,Liquid Virtuspro x Liquid - VP NiP x Titan - NiP Virtuspro x NiP - VP Titan x Liquid - Liquid NiP x Liquid - Liquid (This is the strongest group, the four teams will have problems here, I think the big surprise will be Liquid, they are playing very well, while the Virtus.pro will make a otimo groupstage as usual) D)Envyus,Navi,dignitas,CLG Envyus x CLG - Envyus Navi x dignitas - Navi Envyus x Navi - Envyus dignitas x CLG - dignitas Navi x dignitas - Navi (CLG is accumulating several losses to weak teams in the US, and will not do botcamp because of this they believe is weak, the second wave will likely be the Na'vi, this is the weakest group of Championship)
2015-10-19 17:55
CLG have always played bad online, should've made it out of groups at Cologne, choked hard against Navi and nip
2015-10-19 18:58
#321
method | 
United States f0xes` 
Some pretty balanced groups aside from GA
2015-10-19 17:56
expected fnc c9 mouz tsm vp nip/titan envys us navi/clg
2015-10-19 17:57
A - fnatic/ luminosity B - TSM/ mouz C - VP/ Titan D - EnVyUs/ NaVi C9, G2, NiP & CLG to go out in groups
2015-10-19 17:57
Random maps... Fuck this shiet ;_;
2015-10-19 17:58
#702
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Germany Chris Walker 
+1 rip
2015-10-20 11:54
Group A = Trash!!! only fnatic who is tier1 :)
2015-10-19 17:58
Exactly,c9 is on a slump, LG is trash and i havent really seen vexed play too much so i cant say a lot,but yeah
2015-10-19 18:14
Nip will go out in groups and will laugh with my ass
2015-10-19 17:58
fucking titan always hardest group
2015-10-19 17:58
fnatic and tsm got pretty free groups
2015-10-19 17:59
#333
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Bulgaria vilgax0000 
man titan and liquid in the same group fuck this
2015-10-19 17:59
I thought liquid could've made it to playoff but group C is literally death. I think VP and someone else will take it
2015-10-19 18:00
They still can. Both NiP and Titan are beatable. Wouldn't count on it though.
2015-10-19 18:03
Titan out of groups!
2015-10-19 18:00
#345
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Estonia jossd 
Group A - Fnatic and C9 Group B - TSM and Mousesports/G2 Group C - VP and Titan Group D - EnVyUs and Na'Vi
2015-10-19 18:03
Best major so far, really really good teams. Still a shame that first match is BO1 because at this level, anyone could beat anyone. These teams are all T1 or top tier 2, i hope for some sick matches
2015-10-19 18:07
A - Fnatic and Luminosity B - TSM and G2 C - Virtus pro and NiP D - Envyus and Dignitas
2015-10-19 18:07
#364
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Brazil yxkz 
agreed. I just hope lg doesnt go against fnatic in the first match then its probably over with my hopes
2015-10-19 18:10
c9 > luminosity
2015-10-19 18:10
nah Lumi will fuck them over tbh. They were insane last major and Clown9 can't do shit
2015-10-19 18:14
Cloud9 are a better team than luminosity, and for luminosity to go out of the groups, they will have to beat c9 in bo3 which makes their chances around 15 percent
2015-10-19 18:15
nah Lumi are gods when they care about winning. Choke9 will definitely not make quarters.
2015-10-19 18:25
#491
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North America ewo 
lg on lan > c9 on lan
2015-10-19 19:38
how many top2 finishes luminosity has? ty.
2015-10-19 21:40
#355
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Qatar olaolakaka 
nip hard group? is this real life?
2015-10-19 18:08
Rip Liquid and Rip Titan. That group is completely stacked while Group B and Group A are totally open for the second spot into the quarters. Liquid and Titan are both better than F3, Mouz, C9, Vexed, and they could both have a good shot against G2 and LG (especially to beat LG. Fak groups I wish their was a different way to do tournaments or to at least make it more fair.
2015-10-19 18:09
Also I really think fnatic won't make it out of groups if they preform like they are right now. They better get their act up or LG and c9 and maybe even vexed can bo1 upset them.
2015-10-19 18:09
#362
JW | 
Germany JETLECK 
RIP mouz
2015-10-19 18:10
Cloud9 lmao this is probably the best chance to even get out of the groups in 1st place
2015-10-19 18:10
#373
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
fnatic will shrek them tho
2015-10-19 18:12
let's be honest, cloud9 has a really god chance here. they will be able to veto inferno and mirage. they can compete with fnatic on the others.
2015-10-19 18:15
#412
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Yeah, theoretically they have a chance and they may upset fnatic, but it's very unlikely imo. I think that fnatic will come prepared and hyped for a major, like they always do.
2015-10-19 18:29
It's a bo1, anything can happen. plus c9 has beat fnatic in bo before so this is not "impossible"
2015-10-19 18:53
#535
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Sure, anything is possible, just don't have your expectation too high if you are a c9 fan.
2015-10-19 20:20
NiP vs CLG in the finals thank me later
2015-10-19 18:11
#371
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
2ez for tsm A: fnatic, c9 B: TSM, G2 C: VP, NIP D: nV, Na'Vi
2015-10-19 18:12
Na'Vi will beat envy remember this
2015-10-19 18:12
A: fnatic, Immunity B: TSM, G2 C: VP, NiP D: nV, Na'Vi
2015-10-19 18:13
immunity?
2015-10-19 18:15
just chill, I'm following hltv's logic here haha hltv.org/match/2298534-cloud9-immunity-c..
2015-10-19 18:18
again fnatic easy group
2015-10-19 18:13
A - fnatic/ luminosity B - TSM/ mouz C - VP/ Titan D - EnVyUs/ NaVi
2015-10-19 18:15
luminosity over c9 brazil flair check
2015-10-19 18:23
lan my frend, lan. No adderal my frend, no adderal.
2015-10-19 19:36
Anyone knows if POVs will be available? I mean, C9 was crying about it, they turned them off, they still sucked a lot so it wont make any sense to disable it now too. what u think
2015-10-19 18:15
the polyvalent hall is just at 2km from my home <3 can't wait asodijka9ijg09erjg0e98srg0eajrg09esjg09ejhr
2015-10-19 18:16
can we trade lives for like a week :D
2015-10-19 18:28
#392
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World ddarkoo 
rip mouz
2015-10-19 18:19
anyone think that TSM in the easiest group?
2015-10-19 18:20
Yeah, I think NiP was meant to be in that group and TSM in group C.
2015-10-19 18:22
GROUP A - LG and Fnatic Group B - TSM and Mouz Group C - VP and Titan Group D - EnvyUs and NA'VI
2015-10-19 18:23
classic lg fangay rofl
2015-10-19 19:40
Titan always in the hardest group
2015-10-19 18:24
Also, sucks to be Liquid, got a really tough group, bad break.. Don't think I can see them beating VP Titan or NiP. Possibly NiP if Friberg is back to playing BOT status, and Allu is having a BOT Allu type game instead of god allu.
2015-10-19 18:24
Nah GODfriedburgers and GODallahu akbar will be among us
2015-10-19 18:27
Titan fucked again, not surprised.
2015-10-19 18:27
Poor Titan as usual. Feel bad for them. Put them in nearly any other group and their odds of making it out increase massively.
2015-10-19 18:32
rip CLG hardest group
2015-10-19 18:33
I think Liquid probably had the toughest group draw.. VP, NiP, Titan all very capable teams (people in the comments here seem to be undervaluing Titan a lot).. At least CLG has Dignitas in their group that they should be able to beat; and they've shown they can hang with Na'Vi on LAN as well. CLG and Na'Vi competing for 2nd spot in the group imo.
2015-10-19 18:38
I just think if Liquid plays really good they could beat a NIP or possibly a Titan to ACTUALLY make it out of groups. but after CLG's latest online performance I don't see them taking down Na'Vi at a major. Guardian will rekt face i hope
2015-10-19 18:39
#497
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North America ewo 
yeah liquid got the 2 teams that always at least make it to semis in majors. doesnt look good for them but i believe.
2015-10-19 19:41
nice biased groups lol... ez4fnatic, and why the hell on earth does titan always get these hard groups, 2hard4them :C #poorbaguettes
2015-10-19 18:35
#418
ZywOo | 
France bwain 
1. fnatic (number one) 2. luminosity (very good @lan)
2015-10-19 18:36
fnatic group so ez
2015-10-19 18:39
mouz can take 1-2 place in b group, i hope
2015-10-19 18:40
Match Up wise Titan could beat all of them but I think NIP and Liquid would be the hardest even tho' VP is a much better team.
2015-10-19 18:40
Group a the easiest
2015-10-19 18:41
Ez fnatic
2015-10-19 18:42
For all the people not understanding how the groups are structured: 1st row left to right, 2nd row right to left, 3rd row left to right, 4th right to left. No one is given easy groups, the rankings are logical.
2015-10-19 18:42
Finally NiP out in groups! CYA NiP fanboys bwahahahhaa
2015-10-19 18:42
stacked groups
2015-10-19 18:42
xantares ? joelz ? okay..
2015-10-19 18:43
G2 vs TSM better love story than twilight xD dignitas have a chance to make quarters with new lineup.
2015-10-19 18:43
Liquid will pass.. VP or NiP will be out. Fnatic will pass with c9/luminosity Envy will pass with Navi probably TSM wil pass with G2 Liquid will beat C9 Fnatic will beat VP Envy will beat G2 TSM will beat Navi Liquid will beat Fnatic Envy will beat TSM Envy will beat Liquid for 3-0
2015-10-19 18:48
#530
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
Liq fanboy detected
2015-10-19 20:16
#436
AZK | 
United States Dood 
Fnatic might actually struggle for once, they almost lost to Vexed a few days ago and they've been slumping.
2015-10-19 18:48
Group C is the most interesting one.
2015-10-19 18:53
rip nip :D
2015-10-19 18:57
2 teams from each group? or 1 team from group + 1 fromm playoffs?
2015-10-19 19:00
Holy crap, C9, VP, and/or nV not in the same group for once!? LOL. And C9/LG are finally in a group....
2015-10-19 19:04
Wtf.. who the hell makes these groups? I'm certain this is not random grouping at all. Been like this for couple of majors now. Fnatic, TSM, VP, & NV always on separated groups.
2015-10-19 19:04
That is because they all made semi-finals last major, so they split a #1 seed during group stage. Same thing for LG, G2, NiP and Na'Vi, they all got eliminated in quarters so they are placed in different groups. Furthermore, if you remember correctly all the teams knocked out in quarters during Cologne are in the same group as the team that knocked them out.
2015-10-19 19:16
Oh ok so no random grouping then. Ty for info.
2015-10-19 19:26
Rip liquid
2015-10-19 19:05
A: fnatic, Cloud9 B: TSM, mousesports C: NiP, Virtus.Pro D: nV, CLG
2015-10-19 19:08
not interesting until final 4 =/ need HR
2015-10-19 19:13
WHY VOLVO WANT TO FUCK TITAN OVER?? VOLVO PLS
2015-10-19 19:15
#460
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
it is safe to say that this is the most competitive csgo major to date with the most stacked groups
2015-10-19 19:15
#504
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
-Vexed -CLG +Hellraisers +E-Frag Then yeah..
2015-10-19 19:52
I are think CLG>vexed and maybe HR. But yeah +HR would be the best
2015-10-19 20:05
#533
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
u right u right
2015-10-19 20:19
They didn't qualify, they weren't good enough for the major at the time. HR instead of Vexed would definitely be better, but I'm not sure about E-Frag. CLG also almost got out of groups, very close games against nip and navi
2015-10-19 22:38
#601
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
Yes I know about CLG almost getting out..I just think they're in bad form atm..and HR would def do more damage.
2015-10-19 22:49
They've always played bad online, guarantee they have a lot of stuff prepared
2015-10-19 22:58
FNATIC TSM NIP NV EZEZ
2015-10-19 19:16
Can NiP go out in groups so we see the change they need.
2015-10-19 19:18
#467
HUNDEN | 
Other ToRu 
[*] LG :'(
2015-10-19 19:20
#468
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Chile Cristoff 
LG and C9 in the same group :(
2015-10-19 19:20
VOLVO LOVE TO FUCK FRENCHIES/FRENCH SCENE OVER 1. NERF SCREAM 2. HAND PICK KQLY TO GET VAC BAN WHEN MORE CHEATERS AROUND = TITAN OUT OF DHW14 3. NERF KENNYS WHY HATE BAGUETTE VOLVO?
2015-10-19 19:20
Haha +1000
2015-10-20 14:45
let's hope c9 survives the groupstage ...I don't want to see a sad ska again :(
2015-10-19 19:22
Group A Kreygasm...
2015-10-19 19:22
NA won't make it out of groups. 100%
2015-10-19 19:24
#482
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CIS Shoxie<3 
gaynatic too easy, like always
2015-10-19 19:34
Lets see if c9 is finally coming out of groups... I DONT THINK SOOOO hahahahhahaha rekt.
2015-10-19 19:34
EZ group for C9 Meh group for Liquid, it's possible if they actually show up well on lan RIP CLG
2015-10-19 19:35
Group A: fnatic and LG, since LG in bootcamping on EU training with tier1 teams.
2015-10-19 19:36
#488
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North America ewo 
wow never seen fnatic get the easiest group before kappa
2015-10-19 19:37
Gon be gud
2015-10-19 19:37
A: Fnatic, Cloud9 B: TSM, G2 C: Virtus pro, NiP D: Envyus, NaVi
2015-10-19 19:38
#495
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North America ewo 
i personally dont like the 2 legendary teams 2 challengers per group system because every major its just the same teams in playoffs. i guess it makes sense but it makes it boring to watch the majors
2015-10-19 19:40
#503
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
+1 THIS
2015-10-19 19:50
#505
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North America ewo 
OH MAN FNATIC AND ENVY IN A TOURNAMENT FINAL AGAIN. WHO SAW THIS COMING?
2015-10-19 19:53
Didn't even know Liquid was playing the major. When did that happen?
2015-10-19 19:46
erm at the dreamhack major qualifer?
2015-10-19 20:00
Dreamhack london..
2015-10-19 20:00
#524
oskar | 
Czech Republic Skleepy 
London isn´t capital of Sweden.
2015-10-19 20:12
Wouldn't be surprised if no NA teams go through.
2015-10-19 20:03
Group A Group B Group C Group D fnatic TSM Virtus.pro EnVyUs Luminosity G2 NiP Na`Vi Cloud9 mousesports Titan CLG Vexed FlipSid3 Liquid dignitas Group A: fnatic, Cloud9 Group B: TSM, mousesports Group C: Virtus.pro, NiP Group D: EnVyUs, Na`Vi. eZpZ
2015-10-19 20:03
What the fuck is this veto system. Why do they have to ruin majors with any random selection of maps. Now one team gets more vetos? They do realize they are ruining their tournament right?
2015-10-19 20:05
#516
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
It'll be interesting :D
2015-10-19 20:05
OMG, group C..
2015-10-19 20:06
nt fnatic
2015-10-19 20:17
#534
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Finland ARSKASJ 
A)fnatic C9 B)TSM Mouz C)Titan NiP D)Envy dig
2015-10-19 20:19
"Group C"hoke
2015-10-19 20:23
#539
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Argentina YH!one 
GO LG!!!
2015-10-19 20:25
EZ FOR LG LG X FNATIC IN THE FINAL. EZ MAJOR
2015-10-19 20:27
Didn't realise until i saw this tweet. twitter.com/vuggo/status/656168179530600..
2015-10-19 20:34
GR A: fnatic; C9 GR B: TSM; G2 GR C: NiP; VP GR D: EnVy; Na'Vi
2015-10-19 20:35
Fanatic out in groups
2015-10-19 20:37
Liquid always getting bad groups, LoL. Think they have a chance, though. NiP and Titan still look flukey.
2015-10-19 20:38
yo brazil fangays where u at, gonna get knocked out in groups bcuz no ez t69 team to compete against <3
2015-10-19 20:40
#559
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Brazil RisenNTC 
I'll remember this comment, shroud fangay
2015-10-19 20:46
np fallen fangay your scene cant do shit w/o cogu
2015-10-19 20:59
Titan always in the most difficult group. Fucking BS
2015-10-19 20:43
im all about that group c
2015-10-19 20:44
Group C predictions: 1) Liquid 2) NiP 3) VP 4) Titan
2015-10-19 20:45
#582
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
I aren't think that
2015-10-19 21:25
#558
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Brazil RisenNTC 
LG legends again, easy group :)
2015-10-19 20:45
#562
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Finland tmg_kartsa 
A)Fnatic and Luminosity B)Tsm and Mousesports C)Titan and Virtus pro D)EnvyUs and Navi
2015-10-19 20:54
rip nip
2015-10-19 21:05
#571
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United States Warfororks 
C9 might actually make it out of groups this time :o
2015-10-19 21:08
If they don't underestimate Vexed, yes.
2015-10-19 21:19
#575
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Brazil Collee 
hard 4 fnatic
2015-10-19 21:11
2 of each group pass right?
2015-10-19 21:12
Don't forget deciding matches bo3
2015-10-19 21:34
#587
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Brazil hugoooo 
So many upsets coming
2015-10-19 21:36
rip nip
2015-10-19 21:45
rip luminosity, nip and navi i can see clg beating navi, they almost did it in cologne, titan can definitly beat nip and c9 will smash luminosity. g2 also are not a safe bet against mouz.
2015-10-19 22:04
Ez for Liquid.
2015-10-19 22:09
the format of this major is too crazy
2015-10-19 22:17
#597
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United Kingdom Trix465 
Group C is going to be very interesting. VP are obvious favourites but have been known to fall to both NiP and Titan recently. NiP and Titan will be an interesting match. Liquid are still relative unknowns - if EligE and nitr0 turn up and don't get big stage nerves then they could upset.
2015-10-19 22:22
A - Fnatic , Luminosity/Cloud9 B - Team Solo Mid, Mousesports C - Virtus Pro, Ninjas in Pyjamas/Team Liquid D - EnvYus, Natus Vincere /Counter Logic Gaming I think Team Liquid or Ninjas in Pyjamas can surprise in this major
2015-10-19 22:53
rip luminosity, they have a terrible matchup against cloud9.
2015-10-19 23:09
All the hate on NiP beforehand, all the skins lost because of them & now standard crying 'bout them, ayyyy
2015-10-19 23:11
A - Fnatic Cloud9 B - Team Solo Mid Mousesports (Maybe G2 can do something) C - Virtus Pro Ninjas in Pyjamas (Maybe Titan Can do something) D - EnvYus Natus Vincere Very Easy to predict
2015-10-19 23:14
#659
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United States darkun 
lol easy to predict? 2 of your groups your not certain about..
2015-10-20 02:55
RIP Titan once again maybe one day the curse will finally go away maybe
2015-10-19 23:26
"it looks like Titan will have an even harder time than usual to make it out of group stage, as they have been handed a tough group alongside Virtus.pro and NiP, as well as Liquid." correct version: "it looks like Nip will have an even harder time than usual to make it out of group stage, as they have been handed a tough group alongside Virtus.pro and Titan, as well as Liquid."
2015-10-19 23:43
#654
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Finland jayss 
Haha, that's really how it should be, I really don't see NiP getting out of groups unless it's hard GTR carry.
2015-10-20 02:37
God damn these are stacked
2015-10-19 23:47
damn rip liquid :(
2015-10-19 23:52
A: Fnatic, c9. No excuse for c9 to miss out on the quarters with this group, frankly. Especially given Luminosity's awful form. B: TSM, Mouz. Although G2 and f3 COULD advance, I don't see it. Will depend on the match draw and form. C: VP, NiP. Titan can get through if Shox goes nuts, but I doubt it. Liquid can if Elige does. But, again, doubt it. This is probably the biggest toss up of a group, though. D: Envy, Navi. CLG's inability to close out games and Dignitas' lack of skill make this a pretty straight forward group tbh.
2015-10-20 00:25
#662
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United States darkun 
wouldn't disregard vexed.
2015-10-20 02:59
Like these groups for NA C9/CLG make it through groups against good opponents, stop being inconsistent top tier NA fuckbois. Liquid make it through the hardest group, prove they're finally top NA fuckbois. Then we lose in quarters/semis or a heartbreaking final
2015-10-20 00:27
#660
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United States darkun 
its not NA being inconsistent its EU being inconsistent when they lose to NA.. get it straight.
2015-10-20 02:56
#628
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Brazil AL1en 
choke9 inc
2015-10-20 00:39
#629
fnx | 
Norway Trypticon 
Hahaha and fnatic keeps getting easiest groups,gg.
2015-10-20 00:42
Just realised the quarterfinalist of cologne met again in the same group
2015-10-20 00:42
#632
EliGE | 
United States CiToX 
Oh boy, not looking good for Liquid. Its a BO1, so they may be able to steal maps off of NiP/Titan, hopefully they won't be forced into elimination matches off the bat (BO3 = RIP) GL though! <3
2015-10-20 00:56
#644
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Argentina ECSBOX 
rip lg this time
2015-10-20 01:45
seed 1 is a shoe-in for each group but seed 2 is up in the air for all of them. And Titan does truly get fucked at every major. All because of fucking KQLY ruining their legends status
2015-10-20 02:04
#651
Kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax 
Expected Vp always get hardest group
2015-10-20 02:29
#653
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Finland jayss 
Group A) fnatic and Cloud9 will advance, seriously though, this is a golden opportunity for Cloud9 finally get through groups, LG and Vexed should be teams that they can deal with. Group B) TSM will advance, second seed can honestly be any of the other teams. Group C) Virtus Pro and Titan are favorites to get through, but honestly I believe Liquid can upset both NiP and Titan. Group D) This is the hardest group for an American team, EnvyUs and NaVi are the clear favorites, however in the past LANs CLG has put up great numbers aginst both of these teams.
2015-10-20 02:36
#663
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United States darkun 
So many people treating Vexed as no challenge... it proves the worth of hltv's CS:GO viewers. Vexed literally has just as much chance as C9 or Luminosity to make it out of group A.. Neither of these teams have shown in-game strategy triumphing over Vexed's. It will literally come down to who has the frag capability on that given day.
2015-10-20 03:02
#664
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United States darkun 
its obvious that people watch CS:GO like its a deathmatch and dont understand anything about how the strategy of the game works.
2015-10-20 03:04
#668
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Finland jayss 
Vexed doesn't have equal chances to advance from groups, they can upset C9, but it's called an upset for a reason.
2015-10-20 03:10
#673
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United States darkun 
how has c9 proved anything in the last 4 months except that they can't beat any EU teams... they can't even beat an aussie team Lol... do you even watch CS bro?
2015-10-20 03:53
#674
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Finland jayss 
In last 4 months? You make my job easier, they beat EnvyUs twice in a bo3, they beat fnatic in a bo3, they beat NaVi and mousesports in bo1. And you're telling me that Vexed has done a similar feat in the past 4 months?
2015-10-20 04:04
#676
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United States darkun 
lol all in the same tournaments on their "hot" streak a.k.a. drug induced. get real nerd u know they arent shit atm
2015-10-20 04:23
#677
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Finland jayss 
Well just wait for the major and see C9 getting that second seed with ease.
2015-10-20 04:24
#678
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United States darkun 
hltv.org/?pageid=188&teamid=5752 havent done shit only beat mouz.. which they lost a bo3 to.. bo1's arent shit
2015-10-20 04:27
#681
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United States darkun 
also not even showing them getting raped by what team was it.. Infinity? Intier4? so bad i can't remember their name
2015-10-20 04:29
#724
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North America Foxaika 
"drug induced" Can we kill this meme? people are believing it now.
2015-10-20 17:34
#726
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United States darkun 
dude this isnt like a cheater witch hunt... alot of CS:GO players were takin adderral to improve performance... the moment they started testing for it c9 went to shit... why? because their strategy lacks, they only win games that they get triple kills on important rounds.. Skadoodle is probly the only top level player on that team. you could tell even krimz was jonez'd the fuck out like 4+ months ago... dont be ignorant
2015-10-20 18:34
#736
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North America Foxaika 
Being ignorant is making an assertion with no evidence. Which is all you are doing, since there is no evidence they used with the current lineup, nor is there any info saying that Krimz used. Give me some proof(more than "you can tell and if you can't you're a noob") and maybe I will believe you.
2015-10-20 23:04
#727
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United States darkun 
if u cant look in their eyes and tell that they were tweaked out thats your own noobness
2015-10-20 18:36
#730
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North America Foxaika 
kek.
2015-10-20 20:05
#665
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United States darkun 
"Titan have been dealt a tough hand" Its a fucking major.. what kind of comment is this.. if any team who isn't top3 has an easy time making it out of groups.. then wtf is a major.
2015-10-20 03:06
#666
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United States darkun 
rant over
2015-10-20 03:07
anything can happen in Group C!!!!! amazing group !! all the 4 teams stand a chance
2015-10-20 03:08
All 3 stand a chance.
2015-10-20 03:41
#684
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Finland jayss 
Well VP is kinda unpredictable, usually they turn up for big tournaments, but after Dubai they haven't been too impressive in online matches.
2015-10-20 06:45
Im hyped
2015-10-20 03:11
#671
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Brazil wdks 
RiP liquid
2015-10-20 03:22
inb4 fnatic out of groups no kappa
2015-10-20 04:28
fnatic in easiest group, titan and vp in group of death, colour me surprised.
2015-10-20 05:20
rip clg and liquid dreams c9 plz carry merica dream
2015-10-20 06:56
looking like a TSM vs EnvyUs grand final at this point in time
2015-10-20 07:47
#690
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Turkey CHAMPTZ 
Liquid got this.
2015-10-20 09:13
Fnatic & Vexed Tsm & G2 (sad for oskar) VP & Nip Nv & Navi Thank me later. :)
2015-10-20 09:21
Oskar?
2015-10-20 09:39
hellraisers
2015-10-29 22:09
ez c9
2015-10-20 09:22
Fnatic & C9 TSM & G2 Virtus Pro & Titan EnVy & CLG
2015-10-20 09:38
Rip titan
2015-10-20 10:13
Cluj will be NA domination. I call it rite now. Group A: C9 wins vs Fnatic, LG wins vs Vexed, LG lose against C9, Vexed lose against Fnatic LG upsets fnatic in a BO3 To quarters: C9, LG Group B: TSM beats Flipsid3, G2 beats Mouz, TSM beats G2, Mouz destroys FS3, G2 beats Mouz again To quarters: TSM, G2 Group C: VP wins Liquid, NiP wins Titan, VP wins NiP, Liquid wins Titan, Liquid surprises and owns NiP. To quarters: VP, Liquid Group D: nV rekts dignitas, NaVi suffers a lost against CLG, nV beats the shit out of CLG, NaVi loses against Dignitas, CLG wins dignitas To quarters: nV, CLG. Np bettorers, you'll get your skins from all of these underdog wins ^_ ^
2015-10-20 11:46
#704
Edward | 
Macau ianzy 
stop reading at To quarters: C9, LG
2015-10-20 11:58
bad for you you missed a gr8 read there mate ^_^
2015-10-20 13:48
kill urself
2015-10-22 14:36
And why would I do that? I am completely happy with my life. ^_^
2015-10-22 15:02
lol so many trolls keep talking about titan to beat nip. ayyyyy lmao. NiP and VP will advance.
2015-10-20 11:56
the sames troll said this in ESL One Cologne and Titan lose to Renegades
2015-10-20 13:07
#715
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Russia SKYPIDAR 
Is it a new stickers?
2015-10-20 14:35
Too bad there aren't any Aussie teams participating. I'd prefer seeing Immunity or Vox over Liquid.
2015-10-20 16:34
Renegades (Vox) lost TWO bo3's vs Liquid in the qualifiers. They don't deserve it.
2015-10-20 17:02
#722
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North America Foxaika 
Guess they should have won instead of getting trashed by the American noobs.
2015-10-20 17:22
Group C is INSANE
2015-10-20 17:33
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars.
2015-10-20 18:25
#729
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Finland kommunisti 
ez for fnatic, tsm, vp, envy
2015-10-20 19:23
Group A - Fnatic, C9. Group B - TSM, Mousesports. Group C - VP, Titan. Group D - EnvyUs, Navi. Winner - TSM 2 - Envyus 3 & 4 - Fnatic and VP 5 & 6- Navi and Mousesports 7 & 8 - C9 and Titan.
2015-10-20 21:43
c9 to win
2015-10-20 21:43
RIP TITAN
2015-10-20 23:47
#742
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France cedd 
rip liquid
2015-10-21 02:30
#745
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United States Hiktim 
Rip vexxed always in a group with fnatic
2015-10-21 04:34
#747
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Romania C1pryaN 
Group C =)))))))))))))))))))))))))
2015-10-21 10:25
good luck to all teams but I wish more good luck to liquid in their groups ahahah hope there will be easy good betting matches ;)
2015-10-21 12:53
Finally it's time for luminosity go out in groups.
2015-10-23 13:16
Pretty close groups to be honest.. Fingers crossed for Virtus Pro and Vexed, even though it will be hard for Vexed, but C9 never went through the group stage on a major tournament, so anything can happen.
2015-10-23 13:26
#766
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United States Tryx[M] 
*cough*Cologne2014*cough*
2015-10-23 18:47
Oh yeah! My bad. :p
2015-10-24 00:26
LG > fnatic > Cloud9
2015-10-23 14:40
fnatic Cloud9 TSM mousesports NiP Virtus.Pro EnVyUs Na`Vi
2015-10-23 18:30
ez for fnatic, that group...
2015-10-24 18:36
shitty veto once again
2015-10-24 23:02
Go PASHA, Just Do It //no homo
2015-10-25 17:30
Rest in eace team liquid........ I feel for you guys
2015-10-25 17:34
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