DH Open Cluj preview: 'Challengers'

With CS:GO's seventh major nearly here, we present part one of our two-part preview series for DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca: in this first part we examine the 'Challengers.'

DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca, running from October 28-November 1 and with $250,000 on offer as CS:GO's seventh major, has been fingered by many as likely to be the most competitive major to date.

With 14 out of 16 teams also being previous attendees of ESL One Cologne 2015, Cluj is also a fairly conservative major in terms of its composition and it will be a chance to revisit story-lines and rivalries that have been brewing in the two months since the last major.


Another CS:GO major is upon us

Cluj-Napoca will also introduce a fair amount of reforms to the major system: the veto process has been changed, the decider match in each group will be a best-of-three, and spectators can now play a new Fantasy Team Game.

Regardless, the major will offer us five days of galvanic CS:GO action, with groups that could possibly be the most competitive in the game's history.

Group A Group B Group C  Group D
Sweden fnatic Denmark TSM Poland Virtus.pro France EnVyUs
Brazil Luminosity Europe G2 Sweden NiP CIS Na`Vi
United States Cloud9 Germany mousesports France Titan United States CLG
Poland Vexed Ukraine FlipSid3 United States Liquid Denmark dignitas

As such, it is time to take a look at the 'Challengers,' the eight teams who emerged triumphant at DreamHack Open Stockholm in September and received third and fourth seeds into the groups.

Fourth Seed Teams

In the Greek epic The Odyssey, when Odysseus finally arrives to his home island of Ithaca, Athena, the Greek goddess of wisdom has the land covered in a thick mist so that Odysseus will not recognise it.

Athena approaches Odysseys disguised as a country bumpkin, and slowly reveals to him that the island is Ithaca, prompting our hero to ask her whether she is mocking him. Athena finally clears the mist and Odysseus is able to see he has come home, to which he kneels and kisses the ground.

The fourth seeded teams are in a similar liminal state of uncertainty and yet a feeling that they've somehow made it to the promised land. But whether they will have not-so-divine assistance in clearing the final hurdle of the group stage and ultimately becoming Legends is far more uncertain than Odysseus' chances were.

Poland Vexed

The Vexed lineup's tenacity in qualifying for majors against all odds twice in a row now should give room for pause when pundits attempt to dismiss this team. However, there are certainly red flags for Vexed in terms of what we can expect from them.

In recent online games Bartosz "Hyper" Wolny and his men have seemed prone to error, often losing against eco rounds and often winning rounds via their own desperate eco buys (the sign of a volatile playstyle), however the largest sign of Vexed's struggles has been the team's loss to rival Poles of CSGOLounge at the ESL Polish Championships.


It's a bear market for GruBy & co. 

To top it off, Vexed once again have a major opener against fnatic, the previous major winner. Last time, the results were not so pretty.

In the previous preview, the match-up against fnatic was dismissed as a no-brainer. Despite Vexed's chance to gain experience and mesh as a team, that will probably be the case this time around as well. The Poles may have to concede a loss against the Swedes and look to anti-strat the notoriously unpredictable lineups of Cloud9 and Luminosity if they wish to advance.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
Poland Bartosz "Hyper" Wolny 25 1 2 0.97 Group stage (Cologne 2015)
Poland Piotr "peet" Ćwikliński 24 1 2 0.95 Group stage (Cologne 2015)
Poland Karol "rallen" Rodowicz 21 2 5 0.89 Group stage (2x)
Poland Dominik "GruBy" Swiderski 20 1 2 0.84 Group stage (Cologne 2015)
Poland Damian "Furlan" Kislowski 20 1 2 0.43 Group stage (Cologne 2015)

Ukraine FlipSid3

FlipSid3 are in quite the similar predicament as Vexed, both in terms of historical background, ambiguous results since qualification for Cluj, and an opener against an elite-tier opponent.

On the other hand, the CIS-region team is more seasoned, higher ranked in our worldwide team ranking list (14th compared to Vexed's 18th), and also a little more disciplined in overall tactical execution and in-game mental fortitude.


Less editing, more fragging 

A noticeable issue when we glance at the stats is Georgi "WorldEdit" Yaskin, who for years now has been flirting with the role of being a star player via his consistent AWPing and rifling, and yet who is a strong non-entity at the majors so far.

FlipSid3 also seem to do well against teams of similar caliber due to their disciplined play, but seem far more easy to dismantle when top ten level teams face them. This issue will certainly not be helpful in the opener against TSM, the world's best team.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
Ukraine Yegor "markeloff" Markelov 27 6 23 0.93 1/4 final (3x)
Ukraine Vladyslav "bondik" Nechyporchuk 22 3 7 0.84 Group stage (3x)
Russia Vadim "DavCost" Vasilyev 19 2 5 0.79 Group stage (2x)
Ukraine Andrey "B1ad3" Gorodenskiy 28 3 7 0.77 Group stage (3x)
Russia Georgi "WorldEdit" Yaskin 24 3 7 0.59 Group stage (3x)

United States Team Liquid

Team Liquid are the most interesting fourth seed in terms of novelty and unpredictability. The team also recently happened to be in Romania, for the PGL Season 1 finals, where they played Virtus.pro to a close map on de_overpass and took a map off of fnatic in a best-of-three.

But perhaps most telling of all is the team's impressive winning streak as of late (although these matches are all online, they speak to a jump in skill ceiling for the American team).


It's Hiko s1mplovic really, we kill the other players 

In a recent interview, Jacob "FugLy" Medina, who is perhaps the team's unsung hero in terms of his ability to hold down bombsites as a CT and lurk successfully as a T, spoke of structural changes that have recently benefitted the team.

The largest change, getting veteran Eric "adreN" Hoag to relinquish his reliance on execute-based strategies (perhaps a holdover from his Source days) and go with a looser playstyle that allows explosive fraggers such as Nick "nitr0" Cannella and Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski to shine, will also bring the largest benefits: Virtus.pro, against whom Liquid open, are a team that is notoriously disrespectful to dog-eared, moseying outfits that rely on old fashioned set-ups.

However, the team will really need all five players to have the games of their lives if they want to even think about surviving Group C, which is possibly the most heavily contested of the major's four groups.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
United States Spencer "Hiko" Martin 25 4 21 1.06 1/2 final (DH Winter 2013)
United States Nick "nitr0" Cannella 20 1 3 0.98 Group stage (DHW 2014)
United States Eric "adreN" Hoag 25 2 4 0.81 Group stage (2x)
United States Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski 18 - - - -
United States Jacob "FugLy" Medina 20 - - - -

Denmark dignitas

dignitas seem to enjoy living life on the edge, seeing as how the team changed a player in their roster a week before this major, replacing Swede Andreas "znajder" Lindberg with Dane Jesper "TENZKI" Plougmann.

The change is a decrease in firepower but an increase in synchronicity, allowing the team to speak solely in Danish. And even with its previous lineup, dignitas were able to make the semifinals at DreamHack Open London, although the team suffered big losses to EnVyUs and TSM.


 Kjaerbye will have to call on elven magic to elevate his team in Group D

And therein lies the rub, dignitas will have to open against EnVyUs. In head-to-head lineups, Jacob "Pimp" Winneche and his men get, to put it frankly, crushed by the high-octane Frenchmen.

Even after this tough opener, dignitas will have to make a run against CLG (feasible) and then the Eastern European powerhouse that is Na`Vi (less likely). Perhaps reaching the island of Ithaca in CS:GO terms will be enough for the organisation itself, who have not been in a major since 2014.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
Denmark Philip "aizy" Aistrup 19 3 12 0.94 1/2 final (Cologne 2014)
Denmark Mathias "MSL" Lauridsen 20 3 8 0.86 Group stage (3x)
Denmark Jacob "Pimp" Winneche 20 4 11 0.82 Group stage (4x)
Denmark Markus "Kjaerbye" Kjærbye 17 1 2 0.80 Group stage (DHW 2014)
Denmark Jesper "TENZKI" Plougmann 21 1 2 0.68 Group stage (DHW 2014)

Third Seed Teams

There is no rest and there is no respite at this major, even for the teams who managed to qualify for Cluj more convincingly at DreamHack Open Stockholm.

And there is a certain thread connecting all four of these teams (Cloud9, mousesports, Titan, and CLG) with how they fell at the previous major. In one way or another, all four teams had a chance to seize glory but faltered.

If we are to run with the theme of The Odyssey for a little while longer, the true mark of the champion is the fact he does not falter at the height of his performance. Odysseus is able to string the bow of Apollo unlike the suitors and then unflinchingly murders them down to the last man, taking his revenge to its fullest limit.

Similarly for these teams, they will have to pursue revenge to the apex if they wish to become Legends. No rounds lost to greedy plays, every weakness must be exploited in the other team, every execute must be flawless: otherwise these four teams will be written about when the next major comes around as being stuck in an endless cycle.

United States Cloud9

Cloud9 has drawn a lot of attention recently, and a lot of it has been scrutinising. The North American team looked ready to enter top-five status around the middle of the summer, only to begin an offline losing streak at the CEVO Season 7 finals which accelerated after ESL ESEA Dubai and which has carried on to this day.

While we should chalk up Cloud9's recent loss to Immunity at the Crown's Invitational more to the Australians' excellent level of play, the downturn in form suffered by Sean "seang@res" Gares and his team is undeniable.


Skadoodle's inability to leave groups at majors has a touch of tragedy to it 

Perhaps it came down to other teams learning how to play against Cloud9 and in turn anti-stratting them, but it also has to do with some of Cloud9's poor decision making in offline games, such as relying on de_dust2 where the team often buckle or not allowing Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham to AWP at every possible opportunity.

This major, and the group in which Cloud9 are placed, will be the team's best chance to regain some of their past glory. Vexed should be no issue, and even the opener favours Cloud9 seeing as how Luminosity are suffering from their own performance issues as of late.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
Canada Mike "shroud" Grzesiek 21 4 14 0.96 1/4 final (Cologne 2014)
United States Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert 25 6 27 0.92 1/2 final (DH Winter 2013)
United States Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham 22 5 13 0.88 Group stage (5x)
United States Ryan "freakazoid" Abadir 22 1 3 0.84 Group stage (Cologne 2015)
United States Sean "seang@res" Gares 27 6 27 0.82 1/2 final (DH Winter 2013)

Germany mousesports

When mousesports lost to FlipSid3 in a 14-16 thriller at the last major, the team did what many had already been beseeching it to do earlier, and brought-in star Nikola "NiKo" Kovač onto the active lineup whereas he had previously been riding the bench.

In addition to this, the team have recently brought in 1.6 legend Navid "Kapio" Javadi to help direct the squad, in addition to the plenty of direction Fatih "gob b" Dayik has provided since he joined in early 2015.


NiKo knows what he must do if mouz are to advance

The team had a poor run at Gaming Paradise 2015, their only offline attendance since Cologne, however it is quite hard to judge results from an event plagued by poor PC performance and actual uncertainty as to payout.

As such, mousesports share a level of uncertainty to them which will make them a dangerous opponent against G2 in the opener. Things are looking up for the predominantly German team this time around.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
Germany Denis "denis" Howell 21 3 12 0.99 1/4 final (2x)
Germany Fatih "gob b" Dayik 28 1 2 0.88 Group stage (Cologne 2015)
Germany Johannes "nex" Maget 23 3 9 0.87 1/4 final (Katowice 2015)
Netherlands Chris "chrisJ" de Jong 25 2 4 0.83 Group stage (2x)
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola "NiKo" Kovač 18 - - - -

France Titan

The big talking point for Titan is of course the signing of Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom, bringing a familiar face out of a Legends team and into a Francophone lineup once again.

As such, Titan's middle-of-the-line performances at Gaming Paradise and the ESL ESEA Dubai Invitational are less relevant than before, although they do still speak to this team having a fragging deficit across the board which ScreaM can hopefully make up for.


"We brought in ScreaM for le edshot"

If Richard "shox" Papillon wants Titan to go down in the annals of history, he will have to place a tremendous burden on his shoulders as easily the highest-rated player on this lineup and go into full hard-carry mode.

However, Group C is no laughing matter at this major and an equal amount of onus will have to fall on leader Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans.

If Ex6TenZ wants to finally leave the groups at a major and end a streak of disappointment and woe, there will be no more fitting opener than the one against NiP.

If Titan have their way, it will be both a revenge for the years of NiP's domination and a way to return to top ten status (Titan currently sit at 13th place on our ranking).

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
France Richard "shox" Papillon 23 6 34 1.10 Winner (DHW 2014)
France Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux 26 6 33 0.99 Winner (DHW 2014)
Belgium Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom 21 4 20 0.97 1/2 final (DHW 2013)
Belgium Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans 25 5 19 0.86 1/2 final (DHW 2013)
France Cédric "RpK" Guipouy 26 2 4 0.81 Group stage (2x)

United States CLG

While many teams from among the Challengers have a clear and visible upward climb or downward slide in recent performances, CLG are one of the few where recent results have been all over the place.

Since most of these are online results, they do not speak to much, especially since the team have apparently suffered from DDOS attacks at the CLG gaming house in California. The one noteworthy offline attendance and victory is CLG's first place finish at the WinOut Championships, which included defeating Luminosity in the grand final.


I'm not just here to make faces at the afterparty 

On an individual story, the real hero of the majors has actually been Josh "jdm64" Marzano, the AWPer whom many remember as nearly carrying CLG to a victory over Natus Vincere in the deciding match at Cologne.

Tarik "tarik" Celik continues to perform well at majors as well, a healthy sign for a young player with a lot of aim talent and who has made a lot of personal growth in the game sense department this year.

CLG have an actual strong case for making it out of groups this time around, but they will have to revisit the demons of their 14-16 loss to Na`Vi in the last major and emerge triumphant. If this team's been doing their homework, that could be a likely outcome.

Player Age Majors Maps Rating Highest placing
United States Josh "jdm64" Marzano 25 1 3 1.13 Group stage (Cologne 2015)
United States Tarik "tarik" Celik 19 2 6 1.04 Group stage (2x)
United States James "hazed" Cobb 26 2 6 0.90 Group stage (2x)
Canada Pujan "FNS" Mehta 23 2 6 0.85 Group stage (2x)
United States Stephen "reltuC" Cutler 26 2 6 0.78 Group stage (2x)

The Legends

We will return tomorrow with a preview for the eight 'Legends' just ahead of the action in Cluj kicking off.

You can also check out our viewer's guide for Cluj, and also expect an on-site team from HLTV.org and plenty of up-to-date stats for your fantasy game at this page here.

stich writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter

United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
773
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1222
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1161
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Sweden Andreas 'znajder' Lindberg
Andreas 'znajder' Lindberg
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1026
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1191
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Poland Damian 'Furlan' Kislowski
Damian 'Furlan' Kislowski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1407
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Germany Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
975
KPR:
0.56
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Poland Bartosz 'Hyper' Wolny
Bartosz 'Hyper' Wolny
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
607
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
United States Stephen 'reltuC' Cutler
Stephen 'reltuC' Cutler
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
846
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1554
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
597
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Poland Piotr 'peet' Ćwikliński
Piotr 'peet' Ćwikliński
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
379
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
Germany Navid 'Kapio' Javadi
Navid 'Kapio' Javadi
Age:
-
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.00
Maps played:
0
KPR:
0.00
DPR:
0.00
APR:
0.00
Denmark Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Markus 'Kjaerbye' Kjærbye
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1294
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
United States Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1035
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Age:
23
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1161
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
813
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Poland Karol 'rallen' Rodowicz
Karol 'rallen' Rodowicz
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1276
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.16
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1047
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1143
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1160
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
917
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
Germany Denis 'denis' Howell
Denis 'denis' Howell
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1276
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.14
Germany Johannes 'nex' Maget
Johannes 'nex' Maget
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1014
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.83
Maps played:
899
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.16
United States Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
823
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.10
United States James 'hazed' Cobb
James 'hazed' Cobb
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
727
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1105
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
676
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1425
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Denmark Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1277
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1163
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
Denmark Jesper 'TENZKI' Plougmann
Jesper 'TENZKI' Plougmann
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1022
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1446
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Russia Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1164
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Denmark Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Jacob 'Pimp' Winneche
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
976
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.14
Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
826
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Denmark Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Mathias 'MSL' Lauridsen
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
1530
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.15
Poland Dominik 'GruBy' Swiderski
Dominik 'GruBy' Swiderski
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1216
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
United States Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Age:
31
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
713
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Russia Vadim 'DavCost' Vasilyev
Vadim 'DavCost' Vasilyev
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
924
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
Belgium Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1393
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
enjoyed reading this
2015-10-26 17:21
toplel
2015-10-26 21:51
#3
Sweden erqqi 
cool
2015-10-26 17:21
#4
lueg | 
Czech Republic Lueg 
But that is a fucking shox on the picture doe... not CreaM
2015-10-26 17:22
I meant to imply shox was saying it, I added quotes to that purpose
2015-10-26 17:31
#26
lueg | 
Czech Republic Lueg 
oh i understand now my friend.
2015-10-26 17:36
#57
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Spain Alser 
"As such, mousesports share a level of uncertainty to them which will make them a dangerous opponent against Gamers2 in the opener." Gamers2 rebranded to G2 Esports, can you change this? Edit: Thank you!
2015-10-26 18:17
#5
United Kingdom awtim 
mother yuker
2015-10-26 17:23
#6
Norway Eika4 
kewl
2015-10-26 17:23
#9
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Czech Republic Skleepy 
I love hltv.org for these articles, thanks a lot.
2015-10-26 17:23
#11
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Spain Alser 
I love these articles! ty stich!
2015-10-26 17:24
decent read.
2015-10-26 17:24
#13
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Estonia sux3ss 
nice
2015-10-26 17:25
cloud9 MUST beat LG or the shitstorm will never end. gogo LG
2015-10-26 17:30
ez for titan
2015-10-26 17:31
Great read! One of the few things i actually read entirely
2015-10-26 17:32
Good read
2015-10-26 17:33
cheeky article there stich
2015-10-26 17:34
#24
chrisJ | 
France Escher 
<3 stich
2015-10-26 17:34
Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham Group stage (5x) [*]
2015-10-26 17:35
#64
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
make it 6
2015-10-26 18:26
For real, I wonder if that is the most times anyone has been in groups, but never made it out. There have only been 6 majors before this so he has been to all but one and gone out in groups.
2015-10-27 10:42
Liquid <3 CLG <3
2015-10-26 17:39
This feels like it's written a month ago or something.
2015-10-26 17:39
#gotitan
2015-10-26 17:44
#72
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Germany P3tR 
Gl with le edshot machine :D
2015-10-26 18:46
#36
allu | 
Finland Fherrera 
good read :)
2015-10-26 17:45
le edshot maciiine
2015-10-26 17:45
Titan and cloud9 might be the only real challengers.
2015-10-26 17:48
#42
World Jeza 
Intro referencing Odysseus and vocab like "galvanic" and "liminal" FeelsWeirdMan Is this HLTV?
2015-10-26 17:50
Yep, feels wasted on audience like this. inb4 someone responds with "I aren't think so" and proves my point.
2015-10-26 19:23
I aren't think so
2015-10-26 19:37
Cheers.
2015-10-26 21:40
#43
BOOBIE | 
United States lybrel 
Never thought I'd see something more cringeworthy than Tweeday quoting Winston Churchill in his video. Congrats, stich, you've taken the cake. We get it, you graduated high school... what's with the pointless "analogy" to prove you know about Greek mythology?
2015-10-26 17:52
I strive to be the best, even in cringe-related matters. thank you my friend.
2015-10-26 18:12
i'm pretty sure Tweeday's quote is more cringeworthy .... I mean quoting Churchill for fucking NiP with a gay voice and everything ...
2015-10-26 18:13
Less editing, more fragging kek
2015-10-26 18:06
Group C is a hard group and Group A is too fucking easy for fnatic...
2015-10-26 18:12
#60
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
Stop randomly inserting, commas into, all of your sentences if you don't understand how to use them properly. Without meaning to actuate a contretemps it seems axiomatic that you put half your words into a thesaurus to find the ultimate anomalous synonym thereby rankling your normally quiescent readers. I personally find it somewhat invidious and although not usually mendicant in my manner I hereby emplore you to adopt a more straight-forward tone with less use of smart-arse language so your non-English speaking readers (presumably at least 50% of your readership) can actually understand what you've written. I realise this post will seem like I'm trying to start a micturating contest with you but actually I'm far too old and wise to give a fuck. Using big words doesn't make you clever, writing clearly worded articles that 99% of the readership can read and enjoy with ease is a much cleverer and more impressive feat. Toodle-pip you ninnyhammer. Please sort out your language use or I shall promptly bescumber you.
2015-10-26 18:17
Your issues, they are serious.
2015-10-26 18:34
Having read it again, I'm convinced you are just an idiot. He didn't overuse commas, nor did he use any out of the ordinary words.
2015-10-26 18:51
#84
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
Pointless comma in such a short sentence: "Last time, the results were not so pretty." Misplaced commas before and: "FlipSid3 are in quite the similar predicament as Vexed, both in terms of historical background, ambiguous results since qualification for Cluj, and an opener against an elite-tier opponent" "(14th compared to Vexed's 18th), and also a little more disciplined in overall tactical execution and in-game mental fortitude" This makes no sense if you take out the name between the commas, the first comma simply shouldn't be there: " In a recent interview, Jacob "FugLy" Medina, who is perhaps the team's unsung hero in terms of his ability to hold down bombsites as a CT and lurk successfully as a T" Missing comma directly after and: "And even with its previous lineup, dignitas were able to make the semifinals at DreamHack Open London, although the team suffered big losses to EnVyUs and TSM." Etc.
2015-10-26 19:13
Pointless comma in such a short sentence: "Last time, the results were not so pretty." Irrelevant. The length of a clause has no bearing on comma usage. hearing the writer's voice is important, and commas help in this regard. I can easily imagine someone pausing after saying "Last time". That's not to say a comma is absolutely required here, as you can write this sentence without the use of one. However, it isn't mis-used either. Sometimes it depends on which school of thought you prefer to follow. Misplaced commas before and: "FlipSid3 are in quite the similar predicament as Vexed, both in terms of historical background, ambiguous results since qualification for Cluj, and an opener against an elite-tier opponent" Pretty misleading to not post the whole passage, just to serve your purpose. Here is the whole passage: "FlipSid3 are in quite the similar predicament as Vexed, both in terms of historical background, ambiguous results since qualification for Cluj, and an opener against an elite-tier opponent." Issue here is comma misplacement. The commas are fine, but the grammar is off. the quantifier "both" is used incorrectly, since the following list contains more than three items: historical background, inconsistent results, and facing an elite tier opponent. If "both" is simply dropped, the sentence makes sense. This makes no sense if you take out the name between the commas, the first comma simply shouldn't be there: " In a recent interview, Jacob "FugLy" Medina, who is perhaps the team's unsung hero in terms of his ability to hold down bombsites as a CT and lurk successfully as a T" Again, another misleading argument, by way of not quoting the entire passage. Here it is: "In a recent interview, Jacob "FugLy" Medina, who is perhaps the team's unsung hero in terms of his ability to hold down bombsites as a CT and lurk successfully as a T, spoke of structural changes that have recently benefitted the team." What? The name between the commas is obviously crucial to this entire sentence, since the following clause describing his attributes is clearly not independent. Of course removing the name would make the whole sentence a mess, since the main subject is nowhere to be found. After this break to describe his attributes, there is a relative clause at the end, which goes back to the initial clause regarding FugLy's interview. I have no idea what you're trying to argue here. Missing comma directly after and: "And even with its previous lineup, dignitas were able to make the semifinals at DreamHack Open London, although the team suffered big losses to EnVyUs and TSM." Which "and" are we talking about here? If you're talking about the first "and", then I somewhat agree, as I use a comma after conjunctive adverbs like these, but I've seen my college professor follow the custom of not bothering with a comma with "and" specifically. If you're talking about "EnvVyUs and TSM", a comma is obviously not required, since this list doesn't include more than two items. If you're talking about the first "and",
2015-10-26 20:27
#120
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
"The length of a clause has no bearing on comma usage. hearing the writer's voice is important, and commas help in this regard. I can easily imagine someone pausing after saying "Last time". That's not to say a comma is absolutely required here, as you can write this sentence without the use of one. However, it isn't mis-used either" I didn't say it was mis-use. I clearly stated it was pointless, which you (at least in part) appear to agree with. Regardless, it was only plucked from the text as an instant example of his general over-use of commas. He writes in a way that makes me feel like every sentence is overly dramatic, i.e: "This time, the apple was tasty". You just don't need dramatic pauses in every sentence. It wasn't misleading to not post the whole passage, it was time saving for the reader. Unlike your diatribe. Anyway, the part I posted was the only part I needed as that was the section with errors. Here's what you said: "Issue here is comma misplacement. The commas are fine, but the grammar is off. the quantifier "both" is used incorrectly, since the following list contains more than three items: historical background, inconsistent results, and facing an elite tier opponent. If "both" is simply dropped, the sentence makes sense" I think you mean "isn't comma misplacement". The list doesn't contain "more than three items", in-fact it contains exactly three items. Personally I would still have no serial comma in that list but I gather this is still under debate and everyone disagrees on their use. I was always taught that any individual clause/part of a sentence within commas should be able to be removed and the sentence should still make sense. If you remove the name "Jacob "FuGlY" Medina" from that sentence it does not read correctly. Therefore the first comma before Jacob is indeed superfluous. The additional information about him being an unsung hero etc could then be removed and the sentence would still read clearly. I was talking about the first and. You appear to agree on that one so i'll just leave it there. Stich makes a big fuss and sits on his high-horse claiming to be an English language wizard and the sole purveyor of perfect writing on HLTV yet he regularly makes basic mistakes whilst at the same time desperately tries to show-off with elaborate and usually needless words which many on here will not understand. I would bet money that the majority of smart-arse words he uses are simply googled using synonym sites and as such they, more often than not, stick out like sore-thumbs amongst his text. That was really my point. I won't argue further so either write another carefully constructed post about adverbs and clauses and reflective donglewanks or don't. I'm not bothered.
2015-10-26 21:47
Lmao what are you doing with your time xD
2015-10-26 23:01
he is the arguement king, don't mess with him or he will argue with you
2015-10-27 19:09
The problem with this article isn't punctuation or grammar, it's the awkward analogy to the Odyssey, which would have overstayed its welcome even if it wasn't so forced. Putting a comma after a fronted adverbial clause is standard. See source: towson.edu/ows/advadjnomclause.htm Your "misplaced comma before and" is the Oxford comma. As its name implies, it's used by a prestigious university press. Some use it and others omit it, but it's certainly not wrong. Someone mentioned "both" used with three objects below; it's attested in a lot of famous writers, so I think that's fine. > This makes no sense if you take out the name between the commas, the first comma simply shouldn't be there Well, you just joined two independent clauses with a comma! As mentioned above, the comma is there because it follows a fronted adverbial clause. There's no rule in the English language that says a sentence should make sense if you remove its subject. Generally, you're all a bunch of pedants. Instead of nitpicking, see the bigger picture. This article uses literary references and big words for no good reason, thus simply obfuscating the content and making it harder to read for the audience. THAT is the error, not your ignorant comments about punctuation.
2015-10-27 12:39
#152
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
"This article uses literary references and big words for no good reason, thus simply obfuscating the content and making it harder to read for the audience. THAT is the error, not your ignorant comments about punctuation" I said almost exactly this, and have also said it before about artciles by Stich. In-fact my original post that people are being arseholes about had one sentence about commas and the rest was purely related to content and writing style. I've only bothered to write further about commas because others have been cunts. I still think he overuses commas, as well as making various other weird grammar errors, but concede that it's a minor thing in the grand scheme of things. Word homie.
2015-10-27 19:14
this gonna be nexinho and lanj show
2015-10-26 18:25
Thanks for spoiling Odyssey, fucking unsubscribed
2015-10-26 18:27
"It's Hiko s1mplovic really, we kill the other players " WTF :D
2015-10-26 18:46
#141
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
ikr, wtf does that even mean xD
2015-10-27 08:20
jdm is so underrated.
2015-10-26 18:47
#78
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North America Foxaika 
While I like the allusion to Homer, I believe it drags on a bit too long. Personally I think it would be have been better to simply make the reference and not explain it so much.
2015-10-26 18:52
I usually like these types of articles but this one is definitively a joke to me, especially the footers under the pictures I actually cringed at most of them, this looks really unprofessional, non humorous, irrelevant style of writing and actually takes away from the rest of the article.
2015-10-26 19:05
i think its good grow a sense of humour
2015-10-26 19:10
it's actually inspired by the way The Economist does photo footers, usually with lame puns. takes some of the gravity off of the writing.
2015-10-26 19:13
I liked it
2015-10-26 22:31
i think the best team of Challengers is Titan, just by stats..
2015-10-26 19:29
nice!!!
2015-10-26 19:29
#89
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France cedd 
cmon titan !! I believe
2015-10-26 19:33
very nice read)) looking forward to the major
2015-10-26 19:47
Vexed, Flipsid3, dignitas, Titan: no chance my friend. Liquid, mousesports: can surprise actually, they have pretty strong teams. Cloud9: God knows tbh... They can be in top4, or fail in group... CLG: can be in top8, but need Na`Vi to fail.
2015-10-26 20:02
Titan no chance? They won't beat VP but they can certainly beat NiP and Liquid. They're only slight underdogs against NiP.
2015-10-26 20:31
they can certainly beat NiP and Liquid Nice joke!
2015-10-26 20:36
nice one guys! hype!
2015-10-26 20:04
I really like your writing 'voice' stich. Great read as always
2015-10-26 20:06
Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham 0.88 Group stage (5x) so sad :(
2015-10-26 20:07
sick article 5/5
2015-10-26 20:08
"We brought in ScreaM for le edshot" lol
2015-10-26 20:18
"We brought in ScreaM for le edshot" Titan got this EZ
2015-10-26 20:20
skadoodle Group stage (5x) :(
2015-10-26 20:21
cheeky footer bants, I like
2015-10-26 20:40
vexed to playoffs
2015-10-26 20:51
ez vexed
2015-10-26 20:53
"fnatic, the previous major winner"- afaik VP is the previous major winner . . .
2015-10-26 21:00
read what major is first, then comment
2015-10-26 22:14
You've seen dreams bro. Fnatic won Cologne and so did they win Katowice. ESL Dubai was not a Major.
2015-10-27 08:50
VP's going to win Chuj-Napoca major.
2015-10-27 10:51
Annd?
2015-10-28 07:29
#113
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Turkey OdinA 
nice job hltv
2015-10-26 21:01
#114
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United States mmotorcycle 
uhhhh f3 > clg? i are think that
2015-10-26 21:01
NiP make it happen.
2015-10-26 21:36
stich man, this is a bad article. Everything about it seems clumsy, from the terrible Odysseus analogy to the uneven diction. HLTV is an international website for multiple levels of English comprehension, and the constant spikes in diction must ruin the piece for anyone who isn't a native speaker or studied the language for many years. I've worked for high level foreign policy new magazines, and I couldn't get away with the word choice you employ! I went to Columbia for my undergrad degree, and all of the first years read the Odyssey in the first couple weeks... so any time someone makes an extended reference to the Odyssey that seems amateurish or out of place, I think I'm reading a freshman paper! I miss Lurppis, and I never thought I'd write that. Please try to keep it simple - you write for your audience, not for yourself (or as an editor once told me, "I can tell you're a sad virgin, because all you do is pleasure yourself.")
2015-10-26 22:24
m8, you got fucking shredded by that editor
2015-10-26 22:28
it was a long, sad day of self-reflection. it hurt the most because it was true.
2015-10-26 22:36
No one can blame you, there's no coming back from that execution.
2015-10-26 22:46
I haven't read the article but if it's true you probably taught the writer one or two things and actually did him a favor.
2015-10-27 00:29
n1
2015-10-26 22:52
"has been fingered by many as likely to be the most competitive major to date" fingered by many Kappa
2015-10-26 23:09
#131
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Hong Kong SHiFT^up 
n1 read. Always enjoyable to read your articles stich
2015-10-26 23:28
nice
2015-10-27 00:03
Hmm let's see here... Vexed: no change in hell Flipsid3: no chance whatsoever Liquid: aside from Vexed, nobody is more screwed dignitas: no chance cloud9: maybe they can get out of groups but will probably not advance further mouse: could actually get out of groups Titan: will probably get out of groups then hit the wall in quarters CLG: can upset a team here and there but...lets be real, no chance here either. Sorry for being realistic.
2015-10-27 00:26
Ska picture, I cry everytime.
2015-10-27 01:47
Will there be drop on this event?
2015-10-27 11:01
why there are no Interviews with every Team like @ ESL COLOGNE????
2015-10-27 11:55
groups should be bo2.
2015-10-27 21:46
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