Liquid take down

Team Liquid have taken down to become the sole North American team to advance to the IEM San Jose semifinals (16-2 on de_overpass and 16-9 on de_mirage).

The final match of the first day of IEM San Jose involved Team Liquid, who recently placed second at iBP Cup and third at the RGN Pro Series, against the Poles of who were using a stand-in in the form of Michał "MICHU" Müller instead of Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski.

However, the match was not much of a competition at first as the Poles were completely wiped out on de_overpass with a 2-16 scoreline.

EliGE and nitr0 went off for Liquid 

With Nick "nitr0" Cannella and Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski continuing to display high-impact fragging at another offline event, the second map once again kicked off with Liquid developing an early lead and pulling ahead before began to equalise.

Ultimately, it was Liquid's map and the North American took mirage with a 16-9 score and moved ahead into the IEM San Jose semifinals to face off against Na`Vi.

22nd November 2015

 Liquid K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannellanitr0 43 - 22 +21 - 1.46
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' JablonowskiEliGE 44 - 26 +18 - 1.45
United States Spencer 'Hiko' MartinHiko 38 - 21 +17 - 1.39
United States Eric 'adreN' HoagadreN 33 - 20 +13 - 1.21
United States Jacob 'FugLy' MedinaFugLy 29 - 21 +8 - 1.18 K - D +/- ADR Rating 1.0
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' JarząbkowskipashaBiceps 27 - 36 -9 - 0.82
Poland Paweł 'byali' Bielińskibyali 28 - 38 -10 - 0.81
Poland Michał 'MICHU' MüllerMICHU 24 - 35 -11 - 0.73
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' WojtasTaZ 14 - 37 -23 - 0.40
Poland Filip 'NEO' KubskiNEO 17 - 41 -24 - 0.40

United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
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Maps played:
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Rating 1.0:
Maps played:
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
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Maps played:
Poland Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
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Maps played:
Norway nafuhudes 
ayy lmao
2015-11-22 07:24
Brazil NaScene 
2015-11-22 07:26
Australia BCP 
VP Deserve For Rekt
2015-11-22 07:42
no snax, no party
2015-11-22 07:27
+1 he carries that shitsquad
2015-11-22 08:54
2015-11-22 13:13
yeah shitsquad.
2015-11-22 16:59
Latvia gr0wupz 
2015-11-22 07:24
Nt poorland
2015-11-22 07:24
nice match from TL xd
2015-11-22 07:24
2015-11-22 07:24
North America ewo 
pls dont embarass us
2015-11-22 07:25
2015-11-22 07:29
World Reinel 
pls man, edit this post before TSM rapes NA
2015-11-22 07:31
EliGE | 
United States CiToX 
nope. G2 will beat TSM, and NaVi-Liquid will end 2-0 in either favor. Then g2 will embarrass whoever meets them in the final.
2015-11-22 07:39
g2 wont win tsm, even doe i would really like that to happen, and navi will probably win 2-1
2015-11-22 10:04
United States terd 
No navi ez 2-0 win
2015-11-22 13:27
You are seriously delusional:D
2015-11-22 10:37
World Reinel 
say again, who is going to beat who?
2015-11-22 22:46
EliGE | 
United States CiToX 
LOL did you actually wait for TSM to win just to come back? goddamn
2015-11-22 22:54
World Reinel 
lmao S2
2015-11-22 23:03
Vietnam yolesnoobs 
Lol wtf
2015-11-22 07:24
good news! there will be a crowd tomorrow :D
2015-11-22 07:25
no snax no win
2015-11-22 07:25
Lol probably had to rewrite his other thread and just wrote this small thing
2015-11-22 07:25
haha nah it's just that the person at the event is not supposed to do the match threads, but it's quite a bad hour for EU writers :D
2015-11-22 07:29
n0thing | 
Finland no_man 
2015-11-22 07:31
Poland MJP 
stich change u jumper always same
2015-11-22 07:53
stich you fucked up they won 16-9 on overpass not 16-2 on mirage on second paragraph\
2015-11-22 09:10
Australia KARMAAAYT 
It was 16-2 on Overpass and not 16-2 on Mirage...
2015-11-22 09:21
i miss c9
2015-11-22 07:26
Do it for NA!! :D
2015-11-22 07:27
2015-11-22 07:28
2 days ago, everyone hated liquid for no fairplay. Right now everyone is liquids biggest fan lmao
2015-11-22 07:31
*Hiko And only brazilians cared. It was a shitty 30k prize pool RGN tourney.
2015-11-22 09:24
United States GeT_ReiCh 
Everybody stopped hating because they heard the fill story, not LG's crying on Twitter.
2015-11-22 14:57
never bet on vp guys ty for skins^^
2015-11-22 07:40
kk kid...
2015-11-22 14:51
Taz like always bottom fragger -_-
2015-11-22 07:47
disband needed
2015-11-22 07:48
Denmark FeNoM_XD 
nitr0 just was too strong
2015-11-22 07:50
So ezz
2015-11-22 07:54
Australia bish 
looks like the competitive environment thats building in NA is starting to pay off
2015-11-22 07:57
And when people say EU is better than NA rofl silly europoors
2015-11-22 08:00
And when people think a great playing TL beats a VP who looked like trash means something rofl silly morons.
2015-11-22 08:01
Totally agree NA> EU
2015-11-22 08:02
nitr0 #1 fan reporting in
2015-11-22 08:11
North America ewo 
naw fam im his #1 fan. was the first person to become a fan on HLTV too
2015-11-22 08:29
what now michu fan boys?
2015-11-22 09:07
North America ewo 
everyone blaming michu. the problem wasnt michu it was just that they didnt have snax.
2015-11-22 16:55
Poland MJP 
so mutch hate here LOL
2015-11-22 09:14
nice neo and taz
2015-11-22 09:21
Poland dijef 
They play 4-6 am eu time. They probably were sleepy and not in best mode because of that
2015-11-22 09:50
hope ur trolling or i have lost faith in humanity
2015-11-22 09:52
Poland dijef 
Same applies to NA teams in EU. Its big factor in reaction based games
2015-11-22 11:14
You are as retarded as a retard can get-.-
2015-11-22 13:11
Poland dijef 
Silver lvl knowledge..
2015-11-22 13:17
So i have silver knowledge cause you think Vp were playing at 6AM time? Yeah go back to school kid you should stick to what you are good at.
2015-11-22 13:56
Uhm.. they were playing 6am considering the timezones. Ever heard the term "jetlag" Still, great performance by liquid ^^
2015-11-22 14:15
Yes so every EU team that flew had jetlag probably and still won their games. Liquid deserve that win and the fact that he was making excuses that Vp were playing at 6am is not true cause in the US it was about 11-12AM. And Vp had 2days to rest sleep etc etc and they have played that late several times i dont think its an excuse to have really. Liquid deserved that win and there are no excuses for Vp's loss.
2015-11-22 14:23
2015-11-22 14:44
Poland dijef 
I explained why it was so bad loss, not excuse for not winning. VP been always performing very well against NA, this is exception. Hope Liquid can continue so well
2015-11-22 19:22
VP getting paid to be on holiday in US for 2 days Like the hell they would gaf about this tournament
2015-11-22 09:51
2015-11-22 09:51
Latvia Ke]R[4u 
old man can't deal with jetlag
2015-11-22 10:55
2015-11-22 11:07
****edit to the article: It says wiped on mirage 16-2, but that map was overpass. Go liquid ^_^
2015-11-22 11:35
but lets make another vp changes topic with +michu
2015-11-22 11:52
North America ewo 
michu wasnt the problem, it was not having snax. having michu over someone like taz or pasha (which is what everyone wants) is perfectly reasonable. dont just blame the stand in, he did perfectly fine compared to the rest of VP.
2015-11-22 16:53
which is what everyone wants rofl VP players don't want it, I don't want it and many many more also you can make milion threads with VP changes, you can make a petition but you won't change anything because VP players don't want to change their lineup. Even Neo said that they're happy with current situation and they won't change anyone in the near future. You're from USA and you know jack shit about polish scene. There has been only one polish team in CS that actually meant something - team with TaZ and Neo. WHy other teams can't even reached top10? Because as a team they're bad, they have always been bad and they won't achieve anything. The moment Neo and TaZ retire, Polish CS scene will die :)
2015-11-22 17:15
I hope it wont die man.i love Neo and taz, they are the most legendary abd charismatic Players, but poland has some Talent to bring in.i dont think Its that Bad
2015-11-22 17:26
but those talents can't even reach top15 it's sad look at kinguin - 5 left overs and they've made playoffs of their first major, won GP over Na`Vi and then almost reached final of their 2nd major this is talent those random tier3 polish teams don't have winning mentality like Neo and TaZ have. Look what they did with Snax and byali, especially with Snax.
2015-11-22 17:29
If taz and Neo retire, snax and byali have to take responsibility along with pasha to teach this mentality. I get what youre saying, although G2 is a different scenario ( they are no leftovers, at least now they arent and their skill is Maybe Top5 of all teams) It Looks like the danish scene to me,where you have good Players but spread out. I hope they can pur a good team together, michu, rallen, hyper , peet and those People arent Bad
2015-11-22 17:37
they were leftovers fox - leftover from Portugal ScreaM - leftover from Titan/Epsilon and french shuffle Maikelele - leftover from NiP rain - from LGB SKYTTEN - I don't even recall his previous team... Orbit? well, danish scene is the opposite to polish scene - they're making changes every month xD
2015-11-22 17:45
fox - star in Portugal Scream - leftover in French/Belgian scene Maikelele - leftover in Swedish scene rain - star in Norway SKYTTEN - leftover in Swedish scene So 2 stars from countries where CS is not that popular + 3 leftovers from countries with HUGE Counterstrike scenes
2015-11-22 18:56
North America ewo 
when i said which is what everyone wants i obviously meant all the people who say +michu.
2015-11-22 17:26
nitr0 | 
Netherlands TTHump 
2015-11-22 11:52
shame on vp to lose so bad vs NA team
2015-11-22 11:53
no snax no win
2015-11-22 12:39
How the f*** you can cry about Time differents polish? All European teams, play same and no probs was to G2 or TSM. But ofc, Polish always find "problems".
2015-11-22 12:41
yeah kind of true actually. Even though I dont really care about any of these teams every other EU team played from 11 pm eu time to maybe 02:00 while VP played 5 in the morning so they might actually have been hit the hardest by this.
2015-11-22 13:47
But Vp didnt play 5 in the morning. Do you know how timezones work? G2 Started playing at 2pm TSM 4pm Navi-LG 7PM And VP 11PM if you didnt know they were in the US... They had rest for 2days and they were driving around the city with rented cars.
2015-11-22 14:27
ah my bad then didnt know they were in the US for a while
2015-11-22 14:34
How the f*** can you say this shit. Lithuania ? OMFG you always hate Poland so stop talking shit. VP played with Michu and they played at 6AM EU time so stfu go to your shithole, russians will take you soon.
2015-11-22 12:53
gratz liquid :)
2015-11-22 12:56
I feel genuinly sad for Snax because he always has to carry these noobs
2015-11-22 13:00
f0rest | 
Lithuania TaigoN 
haha neo :) :)
2015-11-22 13:12
Filip 'NEO' Kubski 17-41 vs NA neo is back they said ayyyyyyyyyy
2015-11-22 13:43
huehuehueheue i said easy to nitr0 <3
2015-11-22 13:53
MICHU fit vp they said, nope
2015-11-22 14:10
2015-11-22 14:33
NA teams are so random lol... cant believe liquid lost to c9 at rgn
2015-11-22 14:47
And LG lost to C9 as well, but C9 are shitties xDDDDDD amirite? Really though, VP lose with a standing playing a FPS with jetlag to a team Liquid that showed up to win. Not only did VP underestimate them, VP with this lineup would probably lose to Liquid 50/50. With Snax and no jetlag, I'd have liked to see this game.
2015-11-22 16:45
Liquid lost to renegades at rgn because lg had them go on tilt with all the accusations
2015-11-22 16:45 No wonder with a breakfast like this
2015-11-22 15:46
that breakfast looks awful xD
2015-11-22 15:49
That was apparently the breakfast they got at the hotel
2015-11-22 16:08
Yeah hotel food sucks dick. The sausage patties are typically ok, but eating the eggs and stuff is a good way to get sick. Best food you can have at an NA hotel is sausage and cereal, the two things they literally can't fuck up.
2015-11-22 16:46
"no chance mah friend"
2015-11-22 17:06
France cedd 
VP without snax is like fnatic without flusha or NiP without get right
2015-11-22 17:54
World Vidua 
It's not about Snax. The only player on VP you can easily repace is Byali as his role is simply shoot heads. Michu would fit that role as he's great rifler but filling Snax's shoes is not possible - not because Snax is better but because the whole team is there to support Snax's crazy style. For example, look at overpass and how Snax as CT plays connector and mid while Pasha plays extremely important role of covering his ass. Then there is train on which Byali throws him pop flash at main so that he can push with MAG7. They just have those set plays and established behaviors that they can also time perfectly most of the time and that's how they win games. You cannot learn stand in those. What makes it worse - overpass and mirage are core Snax maps, he's opening those maps with first kills for VP. They should have played cobble or cache on which Snax isn't so important - on those maps Neo (cache on B vent room, cbble alone on A long) and Pasha (on plateau on cbble as T, on chicken as CT) play more crucial roles and could have placed Michu easily as well.
2015-11-22 19:24
Pretty good point about the maps imo. The maps played definitely didn't play to VPs strengths
2015-11-22 20:15
so much tears in one thread
2015-11-22 18:02
Taz and Neo has to go. they had a great run, but now they're just holding this team back. Plus now's the perfect time to get GuardiaN back as he looks like he's not happy with Na'Vi anymore and maybe get S1mple once his ban is lifted.
2015-11-23 02:21
-michu +snax
2015-11-23 10:04
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