Team Ranking: November 2015

We have updated our Global Team Ranking—powered by EGB.com—for November, a month which saw a slew of American events and which then culminated in the FACEIT S3 finals at DreamHack Winter.

The most dramatic shift at the beginning of November saw EnVyUs overtake TSM as the world's number one team following a convincing win at CS:GO's last major: DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca.

As usual, our ranking expert Julien "topeiko" Hottias spent his November rigorously updating the rankings as four events transpired in North America followed by a $250,000 third stop of the FACEIT League at DreamHack Winter which closed out the month.

As always, the rankings are based on teams' achievements over the past year (with severe decay in points throughout each month), recent form over the last 2 months, and performance at the last ten offline events.


nV retain the first place spot, for now

All of that is predicated around a three-man core each team is required to have in order to retain their past points. Online matches and tournaments are included, but with a diminishing factor which means they cannot make a big difference among the top teams, and mainly serve to put new teams on the map.

We will always have a special page where you will be able to find the latest version of our ranking.

Here is the current top 20 table as of December 1st, 2015, which goes more in-depth into the way points are distributed.

Please note that the +/- gain on this table differs from our weekly rankings page, and is in relation to October's ranking update.

Top 20 Team Ranking Powered by EGB.com

Rank Team Achievements Form LANs Total points +/-
1. France EnVyUs 447 207 250 904 -
2. Denmark TSM 500 250 143 893 -
3. Sweden fnatic 447 221 179 847 -
4. Poland Virtus.pro 491 179 126 796 -
5. CIS Natus Vincere 367 157 203 727 -
6. Sweden NiP 278 162 81 521 -
7. Brazil Luminosity 142 164 98 404 +2
8. Europe G2 140 122 70 332 -1
9. United States Liquid 138 129 63 330 +5
10. United States Cloud9 168 75 45 288 -2
11. Germany mousesports 128 72 56 256 +2
12. France Titan 89 84 38 211 -1
13. United States CLG 119 40 32 191 -3
14. Ukraine FlipSid3 96 67 12 175 +1
15. Australia Renegades 76 72 13 161 +2
16. Canada Conquest 31 70 23 124 +6
17. Denmark dignitas 39 60 6 105 -5
18. Bulgaria E-Frag.net 47 47 0 94 -2
19. Poland Vexed 43 22 12 77 -2
20. Europe HellRaisers 20 52 0 72 +1

We'll now discuss the top fifteen teams on the list with the top ten receiving more in-depth coverage.

1. France EnVyUs

Player Age Rating
France Kenny "kennyS" Schrub 20 1.14
France Vincent "Happy" Schopenhauer 24 1.12
France Nathan "NBK-" Schmitt 21 1.06
France Dan "apEX" Madesclaire 22 1.05
France Fabien "kioShiMa" Fiey 21 1.01

EnVyUs took the first place spot on our Global Rankings powered by EGB.com list after a convincing and invigorating run at the latest CS:GO major of DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca.

The team then took a few weeks off, knowing that the two events which the Boys in Blue would play in under the shade of November took place at the end of the month, namely IEM San Jose and FACEIT S3 Finals at DreamHack Winter.


Mon coeur est bleu, but our results are askew

Unfortunately, extenuating and tragic circumstances in France meant that nV chose to withdraw from IEM San Jose and thus missed farming points there, which would have been likely as before the bracket redraw the Frenchmen were slated to play Liquid in their opener (a favourable match-up).

Happy and crew thus only appeared in one offline event at the very month's end, the FACEIT S3 Finals, only to find themselves on the upset end of a best-of-one loss to NiP and then an elimination match 1-2 loss to a red-hot Luminosity team.

Leaving the event in 7-8th place (a fate shared by the Australian-New Zealander Legacy team), EnVyUs thus lose points this month; this change brings them within a stone's throw of TSM and within firing range of fnatic, Virtus.pro, and Na`Vi.

With three of these teams attending the ESL ESEA Pro League S2 finals in addition to nV, December could throw a wrench in the French team's plans to finish the year on top.

2. Denmark TSM

Player Age Rating
Denmark Nicolai "device" Reedtz 20 1.17
Denmark Peter "dupreeh" Rasmussen 22 1.06
Denmark Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth 20 1.06
Denmark René "cajunb" Borg 25 1.05
Denmark Finn "karrigan" Andersen 25 0.98

Team SoloMid gain points this month due to having made the finals of IEM San Jose and the semifinals of FACEIT S3, however the team certainly have some soul-searching to do due to failing to win both events as billed favourites.


device finishes the month with some misgivings

A widespread expectation which was somewhat effaced following the Danes' quarter-finals exit in Cluj at first seemed revived in the early stages of play at IEM San Jose, with TSM edging out both Cloud9 and G2 (two legitimate contenders) in their path to the grand final.

Unfortunately for karrigan and his men, they were shut down in the grand final by an inspired and resurrected Na`Vi outfit, with both maps playing convincingly into the Eastern European team's favour.

Losing as the event's favourites seems to have taken an emotional toll on TSM, as they opened up the next weekend with a 16-0 defenestration of Liquid, using the North American team as a literal punching bag on which to vent their frustrations.

The Danes then edged out Virtus.pro but were ultimately stunned in the semifinals by Luminosity, the dark horse surprise of the tournament. Perhaps background issues relating to the team's ultimate fate are inhibiting the Danes from playing their best game possible; regardless, managing to finish in at least the top four for two events gives TSM some paltry points for this month.

3. Sweden fnatic

Player Age Rating
Sweden Robin "flusha" Rönnquist 22 1.13
Sweden Olof "olofmeister" Kajbjer 23 1.10
Sweden Freddy "KRIMZ" Johansson 21 1.10
Sweden Dennis "dennis" Edman 24 1.06
Sweden Jesper "JW" Wecksell 20 1.00

Like EnVyUs and TSM, fnatic are an elite-level outfit who only attended one event in the month of November: FACEIT S3. Unlike the two other teams however, fnatic also took part in an extremely high profile roster change this month, bringing in G2's dennis in lieu of in-game leader Markus "pronax" Wallsten.


"fnatic with dennis very stronk my friend"

Interestingly enough, 2015 has proven that roster changes reap immediate benefits (e.g. early summer Cloud9, late summer EnVyUs, and of course the recent Luminosity lineup) and such was the case with fnatic as the Swedes went on a solid run to win the FACEIT Stage 3 Finals at DreamHack Winter.

Despite losing points with pronax's departure therefore, fnatic continue to climb in our rankings, and are now in a sufficient position to challenge TSM for second and even eclipse EnVyUs' first place with a strong win at the upcoming ESL ESEA Pro League Season 2 finals.

4. Poland Virtus.pro

Player Age Rating
Poland Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski 22 1.07
Poland Paweł "byali" Bieliński 21 1.00
Poland Jarosław "pashaBiceps" Jarząbkowski 27 1.00
Poland Filip "NEO" Kubski 28 0.98
Poland Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas 29 0.96

Beneath the 800 point waters lurk the Poles of Virtus.pro, who are always a legitimate threat more akin to a menacing and unseen shark than a lumbering bear as the team's logo would suggest.


November showed that VP without Snax is like a tractor without its engine

And of course, the Polish team have vacillated between winning events or strong finishes and bombing out of events, as has always been the case.

NEO and crew started out the month with the twenty-eight-year-old leading the squad (that duty would return to TaZ later in the month) and the team took advantage of Na`Vi flopping at CEVO to win the entire event in Columbus.

The jetlagged team returned to America two weeks later for IEM San Jose only to be upset by Liquid in their opener match and thus be the only European team to lose their quarter-finals game in San Jose. However, this showing was without their star player Snax, who stayed home for medical reasons, and it utilised Michał "MICHU" Müller instead.

VP finished the month by getting their act together for FACEIT S3, which included a revenge win over Liquid to advance to the event's semifinals, only to lose in a close series to event winners' fnatic with a 1-2 score.

It was business as usual then for the Poles: the team are playing as back-and-forth as ever but with enough confidence and results to retain a fourth place spot.

5. CIS Natus Vincere

Player Age Rating
Slovakia Ladislav "GuardiaN" Kovács 24 1.26
Russia Egor "flamie" Vasilyev 18 1.07
Russia Denis "seized" Kostin 21 1.03
Ukraine Ioann "Edward" Sukhariev 27 0.96
Ukraine Danylo "Zeus" Teslenko 28 0.93

As another team with highly polarised results, Natus Vincere can at least feel proud to have finished November with a conclusive event win.


Something to smile about for Zeus & co.

Following a 0-2 group stage blowout at CEVO Season 8 which saw the team finish in dead last alongside Liquid, Na`Vi no doubt took the intervening time in between to discuss the interpersonal and communication issues which have been a bane of the team for as long as it has existed.

What emerged from the anvil was a reforged Na`Vi lineup that could play ball (and was as always underpinned on GuardiaN playing god-mode Counter-Strike) and the Ukrainian-Russian-Slovak side took down Luminosity, Liquid, and finally the boss that was TSM to win IEM San Jose and close the month off with a strong points gain.

6. Sweden NiP

Player Age Rating
Sweden Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg 27 1.12
Sweden Christopher "GeT_RiGhT" Alesund 25 1.05
Finland Aleksi "allu" Jalli 23 1.05
Sweden Richard "Xizt" Landström 24 1.01
Sweden Adam "friberg" Friberg 24 0.91

The strange thing about NiP is that this Swedish-Finnish team with so much pedigree and legendary achievements behind it is beginning to become a team that plays less and is talked about far more.


Sought Allu, Bought Allu, Not Allu

The team opted out of attending IEM San Jose but they did manage to qualify for FACEIT S3 and attend, where an early shock upset victory over EnVyUs scooped them some points as well as a close series against event finalists Luminosity.

NiP gain a morsel of points to remain in sixth place, however after this coming weekend's Fragbite Masters Season five finals (for which NiP have qualified), it is highly unlikely we will ever see this same lineup play again and thus a points drop in the future is expected.

7. Brazil Luminosity

Player Age Rating
Brazil Marcelo "coldzera" David 21 1.16
Brazil Fernando "fer" Alvarenga 24 1.13
Brazil Lincoln "fnx" Lau 25 1.11
Brazil Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo 24 1.10
Brazil Epitacio "TACO" de Melo 20 0.95

The first massive change in our Global Rankings features Luminosity clinching seventh place, which is all the more surprising considering that the Brazilian team fell down to 14th place in our last weekly update.


godzera

Luminosity are also the first team in this month's update to have taken part in the flurry of North American events in November, and in fact the Brazilians are tied up with Liquid as having attended the most events this month (all of them).

At CEVO, Luminosity (with the old lineup) picked up their first best-of-three win against a European outfit (Titan) only to lose to the same team in the decider match and go out in 5-6th place.

From here however, a long three-event slump began which would culminate in the roster changes that occurred at the end of the month. Luminosity lost to Cloud9 in the iBP Cup semifinal to finish 3-4th (despite being favourites to win to some), became embroiled in some Liquid-esque beef in RGN and also lost to Renegades to finish fourth place at that event, and finally narrowly lost their opener in San Jose to Na`Vi to finish 5-8th place.

Attending this many events brings its own issues of fatigue, however the team clearly had deeper consistency issues and thus effected a lightning fast roster turnover which saw them bid adieu to Lucas "steel" Lopes and Ricardo "boltz" Prass and bring in Games Academys' talents fnx and TACO.

This change brought immediate benefits when the Brazilians flew to Sweden for FACEIT S3 as, following a 0-16 stomp from fnatic, Luminosity woke up and took down EnVyUs, NiP, and TSM in best-of-threes before succumbing to fnatic in the grand final. This miracle run brings them up in the table to seventh place, making them the highest ranked team outside of Europe.

8. Europe G2

Player Age Rating
Denmark Philip "aizy" Aistrup 19 1.16
Norway Håvard "rain" Nygaard 21 1.13
Norway Joakim "jkaem" Myrbostad 21 1.12
Portugal Ricardo "fox" Pacheco 29 1.03
Sweden Mikail "Maikelele" Bill 24 0.98

G2 drop a spot in the rankings as a fairly paltry November combined with a roster change meant the European powerhouse had little chance to shine, although they did manage to perform well in San Jose.


"Just pretend I'm a G2 fanboy and then we'll fulfill millions of boyish desires"

The team could perhaps even be grateful for their chance to attend IEM San Jose since they narrowly failed to qualify for FACEIT S3 and only came to California in NiP's stead.

The team then notoriously lost member dennis to fnatic and signed dignitas' aizy, a move which lost them points and experience but brought on board undeniable firepower. Such firepower was evident in the team's quarter-finals defeat of CLG and almost looked a reality in the semifinals versus TSM before the Danish team regained control and won the series.

A 3-4th place finish gives G2 moderate points but not enough to stave off the rising fortunes of other teams or protect against a roster change's point drawbacks.

9. United States Liquid

Player Age Rating
United States Nick "nitr0" Cannella 20 1.14
United States Spencer "Hiko" Martin 25 1.10
United States Jonathan "EliGE" Jablonowski 18 1.05
United States Eric "adreN" Hoag 25 1.03
United States Jacob "FugLy" Medina 20 1.02

Liquid have successfully usurped the North American throne from Cloud9 thanks to a strong run at IEM San Jose (as the only non-European team to win their opener) and overall wins across the board at numerous events this month.


American man keeps Liquid performing well with secret formula. Brazilians hate him!

The month began with tilt and disappointment as Hiko and co. went out in 7-8th place at CEVO Season 8 following 0-2 losses to dignitas and the upstarts of Conquest. However the team got its act together in subsequent events, finishing second at iBP Cup, third at the RGN Pro Series, 3-4th at IEM San Jose, and losing a revenge match to Virtus.pro at FACEIT S3 to finish 5-6th place there.

10. United States Cloud9

Player Age Rating
Canada Mike "shroud" Grzesiek 21 1.11
United States Tyler "Skadoodle" Latham 22 1.10
United States Jordan "n0thing" Gilbert 25 1.03
United States Ryan "freakazoid" Abadir 23 0.95
Other TBA

Despite the recent revelation that in-game leader Sean "seang@res" Gares would be stepping down from Cloud9, the team already had experienced a strange November. Back-to-back event wins against regional talent at iBP Cup and RGN Pro Series (the latter with Braxton "swag" Pierce as a stand-in) were of no avail in San Jose, where Cloud9 were brought down early by TSM.

 


Top ten has been visited by the natty gains man

The biggest hit to Cloud9 in the points system came from them losing a core member in seang@res, and the team's ability to hold top ten with just four players will be challenged in the coming month.

In addition, failing to qualify for FACEIT S3 and the ESL ESEA Pro League S2 finals will mean this team will have zero offline events in December and undoubtedly drop far more places before stabilising once a new fifth player is found in the new year.

11. Germany mousesports

Player Age Rating
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola "NiKo" Kovač 18 1.18
Germany Johannes "nex" Maget 23 1.07
Netherlands Chris "chrisJ" de Jong 25 1.04
Germany Denis "denis" Howell 21 0.87
Germany Fatih "gob b" Dayik 28 0.77

mousesports only made one offline appearance in November, however the team's run at CEVO Season 8 (which saw them defeat Na`Vi, Luminosity, and Conquest) that culminated in a grand finals loss to Virtus.pro was both the German team's highest ever placing in CS:GO and enough of a boost to move them ahead to 11th place.

However, with event attendance in December out of the question, this team could theoretically lose its place to a red-hot North American performance from teams such as CLG or Conquest at EEPL Season 2.

12. France Titan

Player Age Rating
France Richard "shox" Papillon 23 1.07
Belgium Adil "ScreaM" Benrlitom 21 1.07
France Cédric "RpK" Guipouy 26 0.98
Belgium Kévin "Ex6TenZ" Droolans 25 0.95
France Edouard "SmithZz" Dubourdeaux 26 0.95

Titan attended CEVO Season 8 with shox calling and managed to make the semifinals of the event before losing to event winners' Virtus.pro.

While they gain a quiet amount of points for this result, a silent night awaits for this team and the next time we see them perform will likely be in the new year.

13. United States CLG

Player Age Rating
United States Josh "jdm64" Marzano 25 1.10
United States Tarik "tarik" Celik 19 1.08
United States James "hazed" Cobb 26 1.04
United States Stephen "reltuC" Cutler 27 1.00
Canada Pujan "FNS" Mehta 23 0.98

Unlike many of the team's further down in the bowels of this list, CLG put in a number of offline performances in November, however none of them were quite convincing.

The team did make semifinals at the iBP Cup before losing to Liquid, then went out in groups at the RGN Pro Series after losing the decider match to Enemy, and finally benefited from nV dropping out of IEM San Jose at the last second as a replacement team, however they lost to G2 in the opener anyhow.

CLG will have the benefit of attending both Northern Arena this coming weekend (as a projected favourite) and the EEPL Season 2 finals, and if they've worked on ironing out their issues, this team could reverse the three spots they have dropped this month in our rankings in December.

14. Ukraine FlipSid3

Player Age Rating
Russia Georgi "WorldEdit" Yaskin 24 1.18
Ukraine Vladyslav "bondik" Nechyporchuk 22 1.07
Ukraine Yegor "markeloff" Markelov 27 1.01
Russia Vadim "DavCost" Vasilyev 19 0.94
Ukraine Andrey "B1ad3" Gorodenskiy 29 0.88

FlipSid3 have lost points in this month's update, however their past offline attendances at ESL One Cologne and DreamHack Open Cluj keep the team afloat in the top fifteen, as well as winning a few grisly online battles recently (notably against EnVyUs in StarSeries XIV).

15. Australia Renegades

Player Age Rating
Australia Aaron "AZR" Ward 23 1.13
Australia Justin "jks" Savage 19 0.98
Australia Chad "SPUNJ" Burchill 26 0.95
Australia Yaman "yam" Ergenekon 26 0.94
Australia Luke "Havoc" Paton 25 0.88

The Australian Renegades are beginning to come back into form, despite a somewhat humbling 0-16 loss to Luminosity at the iBP Cup and eventual group-stage exit to CLG.

At RGN Pro Series however, SPUNJ and his men made a grueling lower bracket run that saw them defeat Enemy, Luminosity, and Liquid before falling to Cloud9 in the grand final and this result was enough to push them into the top 15.

 

We have also updated our graph showing the evolution of teams' points throughout 2015.

You can also see which teams round up the Top 20 over at our dedicated Team ranking page, and we still plan to expand the list over time to incorporate more teams as events continue to proliferate in CS:GO.

December will be a quiet, humdrum kind of month as following this weekend's Fragbite Masters Season 5 and Northern Arena and next weekend's EEPL Season 2 finale, we will see no more offline events until January. Big changes are still possible after these three events however.

stich writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter

United States Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Ryan 'freakazoid' Abadir
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
716
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
965
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.12
France Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Nathan 'NBK-' Schmitt
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1515
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Cédric 'RpK' Guipouy
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1062
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
851
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.12
France Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Edouard 'SmithZz' Dubourdeaux
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.96
Maps played:
1161
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
France Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Vincent 'Happy' Schopenhauer
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1385
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
United States Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Nick 'nitr0' Cannella
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1030
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Germany Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
913
KPR:
0.57
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
United States Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Eric 'adreN' Hoag
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
597
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Sweden Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Jesper 'JW' Wecksell
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1454
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Poland Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
Paweł 'byali' Bieliński
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1412
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
United States Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Tyler 'Skadoodle' Latham
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1037
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
Australia Aaron 'AZR' Ward
Aaron 'AZR' Ward
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
740
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Australia Luke 'Havoc' Paton
Luke 'Havoc' Paton
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
100
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
Russia Denis 'seized' Kostin
Denis 'seized' Kostin
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1173
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Australia Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Chad 'SPUNJ' Burchill
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.87
Maps played:
155
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.18
Sweden Mikail 'Maikelele' Bill
Mikail 'Maikelele' Bill
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
805
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.14
United States Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Josh 'jdm64' Marzano
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
795
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.10
France Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Dan 'apEX' Madesclaire
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1349
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.16
United States James 'hazed' Cobb
James 'hazed' Cobb
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
673
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Bosnia and Herzegovina Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Nikola 'NiKo' Kovač
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1017
KPR:
0.81
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
United States Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
454
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.14
Canada Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Mike 'shroud' Grzesiek
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
676
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Sweden Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Patrik 'f0rest' Lindberg
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1481
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Denmark Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Philip 'aizy' Aistrup
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1187
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1638
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
United States Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Jonathan 'EliGE' Jablonowski
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1003
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.16
Poland Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1636
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.17
Denmark René 'cajunb' Borg
René 'cajunb' Borg
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1336
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Sweden Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Christopher 'GeT_RiGhT' Alesund
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.12
Maps played:
1510
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1293
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Sweden Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Markus 'pronax' Wallsten
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
1180
KPR:
0.60
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Netherlands Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Chris 'chrisJ' de Jong
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1328
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.11
Russia Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Egor 'flamie' Vasilyev
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1140
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Brazil Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Lincoln 'fnx' Lau
Age:
29
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
483
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1402
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
27
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
781
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1290
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Norway Joakim 'jkaem' Myrbostad
Joakim 'jkaem' Myrbostad
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
776
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Russia Vadim 'DavCost' Vasilyev
Vadim 'DavCost' Vasilyev
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
915
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
Poland Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Michał 'MICHU' Müller
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1264
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1567
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
Slovakia Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Ladislav 'GuardiaN' Kovács
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.13
Maps played:
1345
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
Australia Justin 'jks' Savage
Justin 'jks' Savage
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
737
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
United States Stephen 'reltuC' Cutler
Stephen 'reltuC' Cutler
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
829
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
France Richard 'shox' Papillon
Richard 'shox' Papillon
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1411
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
United States Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Jacob 'FugLy' Medina
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
938
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1025
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
United States Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Jordan 'n0thing' Gilbert
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
790
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1143
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
Vladyslav 'bondik' Nechyporchuk
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1044
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
United States Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Spencer 'Hiko' Martin
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
906
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
Brazil Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Lucas 'steel' Lopes
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
840
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
Germany Denis 'denis' Howell
Denis 'denis' Howell
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1141
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.83
Maps played:
899
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.16
Germany Johannes 'nex' Maget
Johannes 'nex' Maget
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
947
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1470
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.17
Belgium Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Adil 'ScreaM' Benrlitom
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1317
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
France Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Fabien 'kioShiMa' Fiey
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
1170
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Ioann 'Edward' Sukhariev
Age:
31
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1312
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Ukraine Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Danylo 'Zeus' Teslenko
Age:
31
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
1326
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.17
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1413
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1011
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
Sweden Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Freddy 'KRIMZ' Johansson
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1234
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.15
Russia Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1071
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Sweden Adam 'friberg' Friberg
Adam 'friberg' Friberg
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1410
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Sweden Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Robin 'flusha' Rönnquist
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
1447
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.18
Brazil Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1002
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
Sweden Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Richard 'Xizt' Landström
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1461
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
Portugal Ricardo 'fox' Pacheco
Ricardo 'fox' Pacheco
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
738
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Sweden Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Olof 'olofmeister' Kajbjer
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1207
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
Norway Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Håvard 'rain' Nygaard
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1043
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Brazil Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Ricardo 'boltz' Prass
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
865
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.17
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
1399
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Sweden Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Dennis 'dennis' Edman
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
939
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Australia Yaman 'yam' Ergenekon
Yaman 'yam' Ergenekon
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
490
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
United States Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Sean 'seang@res' Gares
Age:
30
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
703
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.14
Belgium Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Kévin 'Ex6TenZ' Droolans
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1316
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.16
France Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Kenny 'kennyS' Schrub
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.15
Maps played:
1415
KPR:
0.78
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.11
great list
2015-12-01 23:07
Terrible list
2015-12-01 23:20
Its actually a good list lol. Pretty accurate tbh.
2015-12-01 23:28
you are dumb
2015-12-04 03:01
Well if you say im dumb give some arguments plz
2015-12-04 18:21
It is a good list. GuardiaN having 1.26 rating while kennyS has 1.14 rating and olofmeister has 1.10 - time to reconsider the GOD status of kenny and olof I'd say!
2015-12-01 23:57
I've always said that guardian should be nominated to player of the year here in 2015
2015-12-02 00:40
Having gotten to a major final with navi, this is the best time ever to do that. i'm pretty sure he'll be top5 on this years hltv list.
2015-12-02 01:18
He should be at least top 3 this year. Individually and stats wise, he is 100% top 1, but olof and device will be above him, I think.
2015-12-02 01:19
Well there's also flusha. I do wonder if hltv will be doing rankings this year at all. No more lurpis around here
2015-12-02 02:02
flusha played poorly first period of the year so I don't think so
2015-12-02 02:12
kennyS was during a way longer period by far the best individual player CSGO has EVER seen so far and he ended up at rank 5? rank 6? Doubt GuardiaN will be #1 with closer individual competition, kennyS had huge advantage there, and no major title.
2015-12-02 04:11
#313
 | 
United Kingdom jMz86 
That rating is for the past 2 months. If you look at LAN ratings for the whole of 2015: Happy: 1.15 Guardian: 1.15 Olofmeister: 1.14 KennyS: 1.14 Considering Happy, Olofmeister and KennyS have all achieved more than Guardian has in 2015, I reckon they will all have a better placing than Guardian this year.
2015-12-02 13:08
Well, happy, olofm and Kenny all play in way better teams with alot better players than Guardian does. He basically carrys his team to top 5 and to finals and so on. So when it comes to the best player you can't really take in the teams performance, since it's not really fair. Guardian honestly recks most teams on his own and you can't really say that about anyone other than maybe olof from time to time. However Guardian is more consistant than olof has been this year imo. (No Navi fan)
2015-12-02 13:28
#326
 | 
United Kingdom jMz86 
You didn't learn anything from the rankings last year then? The exact same thing was said about KennyS last year and his form was much better than Guardians 2015 form he was in arguably worse teams than Na'Vi in 2014 and he didn't even get first place last year, even though his ratings where MUCH better than GTR's. So to say that team results are not considered is just not true.
2015-12-02 14:04
Titan during 2014 was not a bad team(!)... They had about the same succes at lan's as Nip during 2014 and the exact same rating 1.03. The biggest reason for KennyS not to be given top 1, was because he has proven time and time again that he is a choker in the big games (read majors), something that Get_right is not.
2015-12-02 14:57
#365
 | 
United Kingdom jMz86 
Choked? Only choke at a major was with NV and even then it was a month after joining the team, with a lot of pressure on his head. You've just looked at the stats and saw 3 red ratings but don't take into consideration that one was with Recursive in 2013 and the other was with Titan when they got put out after 2 games and actually KennyS was the highest rated player in their team so he wasn't the one who choked lol. Other event's he was rated really high.
2015-12-02 16:07
#376
 | 
United Kingdom jMz86 
"Titan during 2014 was not a bad team(!)" Yeah the Major he attended with that team he had a 1.28 rating and ALL of his team mates were under 1.0
2015-12-02 16:53
Stopped reading at 1. EnVyUs
2015-12-02 11:21
TSM is falling apart, why are they still second?
2015-12-02 15:07
Ez nv
2015-12-01 23:08
n1
2015-12-01 23:08
#4
 | 
Lithuania AvaIon 
navi 5th KappaRoss
2015-12-01 23:08
Luminosity 7th KappaRoss (For real though, they should be no higher than 10)
2015-12-01 23:39
all I see is tears, salty tears, love it!
2015-12-02 00:49
how much?
2015-12-02 00:50
Why? Not being fanboy here, but why do you not agree? It's based on tournaments points, they attended a lot of Lan's even thought not getting a good result in all of them. Also, the dreamhack final gave them a lot of points to reach that place. I just don't get it why they shoudn't be higher than 10 in your opinion.. =)
2015-12-02 09:27
#344
 | 
United States lumpy seal 
You've caught brazilianos with this comment. Good fishing my friend.
2015-12-02 14:58
Thanks bro. It's extremely easy to bait favela fish
2015-12-02 15:18
BabyRage
2015-12-01 23:08
G2 > LG Or even put LG and G2 above NiP cuz they havent done shit
2015-12-01 23:08
No LG > G2
2015-12-01 23:13
show your flag
2015-12-01 23:15
LG>G2
2015-12-01 23:15
lg>g2
2015-12-02 00:41
mousesport still upset maikalele smacked their booty on mirage?
2015-12-02 18:56
idk, ask them. I'm a Na'Vi fan
2015-12-02 19:22
G2 also beat navi each time on lan (3x they meet) and only once lost when they were new team kinguin rekt idiot german
2015-12-02 20:03
pretty sure they lost at gaming paradise when they were slumping and won at dreamhack summer open That's it. Good job at making up some matches in your head with them having faced them while they've been known under g2. wp
2015-12-02 20:23
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooops! rekt
2015-12-02 00:51
LG>G2
2015-12-02 01:54
#219
 | 
Portugal dracø 
LG > G2
2015-12-02 02:40
lg>g2 da
2015-12-02 10:27
#298
 | 
Brazil markkrj 
LG>G2
2015-12-02 11:56
G2<LG
2015-12-02 16:01
G2 > LG
2015-12-02 16:36
LG>G2
2015-12-02 13:44
I dont think you understand how the ranking works
2015-12-01 23:15
We cant say wbo is better betwen G2 and LG, cos imo they are pretty much at the same level, the only way to know is if they played a bo3, the only time they faces each other was in cologne and LG won 16-6 but the line up for the teams were completely different (Dennis and scream were still G2 and boltz and steel still in LG)
2015-12-01 23:21
They are Not G2s individual skill is way higher than LGs
2015-12-01 23:27
Its true but LG's tactics and team plays are way more complex and cleaner than G2's
2015-12-01 23:35
G2 beat NaVi each time they met online and NaVi is probably the most executional team there is, NaVi > LG all day also.
2015-12-01 23:59
Lets see how the new line up goes against na'vi, then u can compare both teams
2015-12-02 00:06
Besides, every one says LG is more consistente with their executivos even thorin says it, and he hates LG
2015-12-02 00:32
Para de usar o google tradutor, parece retardado, lol.
2015-12-02 09:30
Mas eu ao formado em inglês, o "consistente" veio do autocorretor do celular q n reconhece inglês, mas NT favela monkey
2015-12-02 09:50
E o ''executivos''? NT pobre sem ensino básico.
2015-12-02 22:45
Lol nem tinha percebido esse... Bem se você não tem a capacidade de assimilar o que eu já tinha dito, repito de novo, autocorretor do cel q n reconhece "executions". Mano tu é burro pra krl hein
2015-12-02 23:09
Ta bom prata.
2015-12-03 19:53
pega na minha q eu pego na sua
2015-12-03 21:03
tesão
2015-12-03 22:01
2015-12-01 23:38
hahahahaha omg g2 lost a online game against SK without their best player omg omg remember when G2 lost 16-2 to CLG online? online results dont mean shit shroud
2015-12-02 00:00
G2 lost to CLG online? Since when do EU and NA teams play against each other in official matches online? I'd love to see that match, if you can link it.
2015-12-02 00:23
Pretty sure that never happened
2015-12-02 00:33
I meant LG
2015-12-02 01:51
But aren't LG in the US? And G2 is in EU? How can they play online still without outrageous ping? Can you please link this match you're referring to?
2015-12-02 01:55
I mean CLG - LG m8
2015-12-02 02:03
blind g2 fanboy
2015-12-02 00:09
lets see FalleN > Maikelele cold = rain fer = aizy fnx > jkaem TACO < fox LG more skilled overall, hltv confirmed
2015-12-02 00:29
You should put them up against their roles fallen = fox (awp) cold > jkaem (fragger / anchor) fnx = aizy (entry) fer > maikelele I suppose? (hard when g2 doesn't really have a lurker) taco < rain (support / fragger etc, rain has been calling / supporting for some time now)
2015-12-02 00:44
Except G2 doesn't really have any set roles. They don't have a specific entry fragger, rain is calling on the flow. I've always thougth comparing players of two teams like this is retarded. "> or =" when teams are so different when it comes to roles. G2's biggest strength and surprise momentum is that they are unpredictable. Tbh, people are talking and focusing way too much on "role" of teams. They shuffle around on roles often in a game, except for the specific role like AWPer and IGL.
2015-12-02 00:56
They do have some set roles like other teams. Fox is main awper now, aizy is main entry, jkaem is second entry and anchor
2015-12-02 01:06
Has anyone confirmed this? Rain is still often entryfragging even if he is calling. To me, their roles seem to change quite often.
2015-12-02 01:11
just look at when they play. When they execute, aizy goes in first mostly
2015-12-02 01:18
Fer is not a lurker either.
2015-12-02 09:31
Have you watched their latest matches? He was lurking, changed roles with steel, and now that they changed steel out, he went back to lurking. He lurked in all the matches at faceit
2015-12-02 09:49
#297
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
Fallen took Fnx to be lurker, but after 0x16 against Fnatic, maybe they change positions
2015-12-02 11:54
#345
 | 
United States lumpy seal 
cold > jkaem... Now I've seen it all
2015-12-02 15:00
#159
 | 
Portugal snoozevlc 
Aizy + jkaem > LG Rain > LG Sorry, go back to favela now.
2015-12-02 00:56
fer = aizy fnx > jkaem hahahahahaha
2015-12-02 02:00
you can add cold=rain to that lol
2015-12-03 01:12
G2s individual skill is way higher than LGs lol
2015-12-02 00:58
Nice to see a Brazilian with a realistic perspective of things. (And I'll try to do so as well despite my flag.) IMO a tiny bit more experience and G2 would have won Cluj, but they just couldn't close out inferno and ended up losing what was the "real final". I've never seen LG play to that level, but G2 has failed to do so consistently. It's hard to compare the teams at present. Both need to attend more events. It is, as you say, pretty much raw skill versus tactics, and if either team improves in the aspect they're deficient in, they'll prove to be better. LG has coldzera and fer who can really step up, while G2 has aizy, rain and jkaem who can all be madfraggers. I'm looking forward to 2016. No more big events this year after Fragbite, where neither team will attend. Time will tell. I'm pulling for my boys ofc, but I've been seriously impressed by the Brazilians.
2015-12-02 09:06
Yeah, man i have to agree with you in that one! Ive been waiting for aa LG vs G2 for a while now (more because fox and LG are very close friends) to see how these teams go against each other, when i compare the both teams, i dont know about you but i see completely different stiles but i see a very close skill ceiling
2015-12-02 09:22
n1
2015-12-01 23:09
#8
 | 
Libya Ayudaaa 
Fnatic #1
2015-12-01 23:09
#10
 | 
Korea saddummy 
TSM BEST
2015-12-01 23:09
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ even tho u have a shitty taste in anime but im agreed with u here BROFIST!
2015-12-01 23:10
Envyus? Gr8 joke m8
2015-12-01 23:09
major son, major
2015-12-02 10:19
nice work
2015-12-01 23:09
furst
2015-12-01 23:09
whoa
2015-12-01 23:09
LG TOP 3
2015-12-01 23:10
#19
 | 
Bulgaria FrostNixon 
Conquest! never playing a eu team, but dominating the rankings.
2015-12-01 23:10
2015-12-01 23:11
#120
World zzs 
yo stich, isn't fnatic +2 on ranking? check last week's rankings. article says +/- is "-"
2015-12-02 00:01
the +/- numbers on this table are changes compared to the "october 2015 post", it confused me too at first
2015-12-02 01:15
#234
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Brazil tiagoalen 
Nice Stich. I was waiting for this article. You are doing a very good job. =D
2015-12-02 04:25
HAHA LIQUID BETTER TOP 8?????????????????????????
2015-12-01 23:10
liquid above cloud9 lmao
2015-12-01 23:10
n1
2015-12-01 23:10
#24
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Brazil Atok 
"godzera" in the pic. The real hltv. Actually, i think the same.
2015-12-01 23:11
#25
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Italy 1nf3rn4L 
liquind 2 point less G2 go home hltv you are drunk
2015-12-01 23:11
#224
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United States GeT_ReiCh 
hltv.org/match/2299617-sk-g2-fragbite-ma.. g2 with dennis, I arent think that
2015-12-02 02:54
nice try lurppis
2015-12-01 23:12
liquid Kappa
2015-12-01 23:12
#30
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France cedd 
lol the picture captions... dank memes
2015-12-01 23:12
I know this is based of tournaments and such because there is no fucking way CLG > HR,Dignitas,E-Frag
2015-12-01 23:12
#36
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Czech Republic Skleepy 
More like Conquest lol.
2015-12-01 23:13
Dignitas lost a ton of points because of their roster changes others are justified
2015-12-02 00:26
Liquid before cloud9, I've seen everything.
2015-12-01 23:13
#38
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Czech Republic Skleepy 
Thanks topeiko for your work, I can imagine how hard it is. :)
2015-12-01 23:14
Thanks man ! And yep, this one was really exhausting, I'm glad stich is doing the writing work :)
2015-12-02 01:52
lol godzera
2015-12-01 23:14
BRAZIL 7
2015-12-01 23:14
Lol, reminds me smth
2015-12-01 23:27
hhhHHAHHAHAHA
2015-12-01 23:31
If mouz was 1st we were fucked xD
2015-12-02 00:58
Fnatic 1
2015-12-02 00:10
"Godzera" nt LG fans....oh wait
2015-12-01 23:14
CHOKESM HAHAHAHAH
2015-12-01 23:14
NA has the most teams in top 10 tied with swedes and most if you count LG what the fuck
2015-12-01 23:14
nice joke
2015-12-01 23:15
vp has better form than lg? seems legit Kappa
2015-12-01 23:16
#49
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France cedd 
fnatic >>> tsm these days liquid and c9 do not deserve their spots at all as well
2015-12-01 23:16
#347
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United States lumpy seal 
lol? Who would you put above them? They're in the spots they deserve atm
2015-12-02 15:04
ranking suck
2015-12-01 23:16
why? be happy with LG, that's the highest place they will get.
2015-12-01 23:21
Woaw the saltiness is reaaal
2015-12-01 23:30
I hope he's wrong because I really liked what I've seen from LG but the next steps are going to be really harder.. But I see them jump NiP if they perform well in recent future :)
2015-12-02 01:50
Yeah, man... Im really excited about this new team! I hope they achieve something big. Thats all that Fallen wants, win a big tournament!
2015-12-02 09:05
no, i was really impressed by LG, i hope they can continue the playstyle, but the most brazilian fans are just dumb. LG got to a final, now most see them on 2nd place and so on.
2015-12-02 11:58
Yeah, some brazilians can be a pain in the ass when they cheer for LG. But i hope one day i can see them (LG) at the top of the rank! This is just my dream, since mibr never really could be the best in the world! Fallen has improved so much, you have no idea! At first, ppl thought he wouldnt have a future in csgo cause he was improving só slowly, i myself thought that too, now is such an honor and pleasure to see them fighting for brazilian CS scene out there! Fallen himself already said years ago that he wants to be a world champion, this is something that really impresses me, LG must be one of the .ost focused teams out there, if not THE! I know they are im NA, but OFC, EU teams have a very different mentality! Im so excited about this new lineup, that i cant even describe with words! <xD
2015-12-02 12:46
#51
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Switzerland pazzo0 
Godzera, lmao
2015-12-01 23:16
guardian in life form
2015-12-01 23:16
CONQUEST? Did maples bribe this fucking ranking?
2015-12-01 23:17
#348
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United States lumpy seal 
They beat Dignitas, CLG, and others tf are you want? It's not like they're top 10 lol.
2015-12-02 15:05
godzera
2015-12-01 23:17
Idea: Turn that "evolution" graph into something interactive and embedded on the website. So you can change time-scales, hover over lines, etc.
2015-12-01 23:18
Yep I thought about it too, but we cannot embed such things on the news posts.. Best I have for now is this one I just did : infogr.am/csgo__top_teams-8 and if you click the name of a team, lines bright to make it more clear.
2015-12-01 23:29
thanks
2015-12-02 00:46
Great works once again topeiko! FYI, Plotly is a great option for interactive plot (Excel/R/Python/Matlab). Check it out if you're interested plot.ly/
2015-12-03 16:14
Thank you! I'll make one for the next update :)
2015-12-03 18:35
#57
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Luxembourg daniel19 
nice comments under pic :)
2015-12-01 23:18
The hiko one made me laugh, but its true we do hate him. Godzera also really funny
2015-12-01 23:32
#287
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Luxembourg daniel19 
i like hiko, he's a good player, and idc if he's a cunt, we could also say he is a typical american =) ; my fav is fnatic tho
2015-12-02 10:02
online-frag with 0 LAN points, n1
2015-12-01 23:18
Brazilians hate him!!!! HAHAHA
2015-12-01 23:18
can i cum on device face
2015-12-01 23:19
still fucked
2015-12-01 23:19
LG top3.
2015-12-01 23:19
godlike captions by stich once again
2015-12-01 23:20
#65
Portugal jO7A 
Na'Vi ratings lmao
2015-12-01 23:20
GuardiaN is too good
2015-12-01 23:25
#68
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Russia Drinkins 
I like Device anbd Carrygan, but TSM #2...fuck this. Looks like fanboy Batistuta added some points them.
2015-12-01 23:20
#80
Portugal jO7A 
carrygan?! He is one of the most brainless player in top15 teams.
2015-12-01 23:28
#249
Australia BCP 
karrigan brainless? one of the best csgo igls, please...
2015-12-02 08:05
LETS GO H-R!!!!! #20 Isnt bad considering their situation lol
2015-12-01 23:25
They have been pretty inactive and yet have to debut at a LAN tournament. Next is Acer in January tho.
2015-12-01 23:31
Ye ( i said concidering their situation :D)
2015-12-01 23:52
godzera? yeah baby
2015-12-01 23:29
LG can't even beat Liquid or C9 on LAN
2015-12-01 23:29
#137
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Brazil Cupinxa 
but they beat TSM, Envy and NiP in bo3's
2015-12-02 00:28
Liquid above C9 is a joke. C9 won both NA LANs last month, they're clearly the better team. Liquid gaining points just because they qualify for events online and beat a hurting VP at IEM
2015-12-01 23:30
#90
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Canada pokerchip 
+1
2015-12-01 23:32
"The biggest hit to Cloud9 in the points system came from them losing a core member in Gares"
2015-12-01 23:34
yes I read it, but it's an improper way of calculating rankings when that is a possibility
2015-12-01 23:37
That is the only proper way of handling a lineup change, you are still thinking of C9 as the team with Sean (or swag at RGN), but they're not that team anymore. They are now 4 players who are still in the top 10 thanks to their old results.
2015-12-01 23:43
I don't think seans impact was high enough to warrant any change in the teams ranking, but that's one of the downsides to using a point based system I guess.
2015-12-02 01:15
Now you're going into personal opinion of a player's impact on a team, and that has no place in a team ranking discussion.
2015-12-02 01:31
It does have place in a ranking discussion, unless you're foolish enough to think each player plays an equal part in their success.
2015-12-02 01:45
You can have a bias when deciding a player importance, which is what you need to avoid when working on objective things, like rankings. Like I could argue that since he was IGL, he had a big part in their team and spearheaded their summer success, so even more points should be take away, but that is a biased opinion so it wouldn't happen.
2015-12-02 08:29
"The loss of an IGL is irrelevant to a team" And this is why you're forever stuck in Open.
2015-12-02 07:33
nice troll post. tsm and vp = overrated. navi and g2 = underrated.
2015-12-01 23:32
+1
2015-12-02 19:17
#93
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Canada pokerchip 
"it is highly unlikely we will ever see this same lineup play again" CONFIRMED! ;(
2015-12-01 23:33
never mind who first! fnatic machine
2015-12-01 23:33
liquid top 10? is this a joke? u guys need to reinvent ur ranking system, we all know they arent even close to top 10 lol
2015-12-01 23:34
I can see liquid beating every team beneath them.
2015-12-01 23:40
+1
2015-12-02 00:07
cloud9 just won 2 LAN events at USA.
2015-12-02 19:18
guardian 1.26 o_O
2015-12-01 23:36
#261
Australia BCP 
yea he is at his peak right now, its unreal to see what hes doing. hltv.org/?pageid=188&matchid=25753
2015-12-02 08:46
godzera ok
2015-12-01 23:37
Lg>g2 and liquid in any top10 is beyond wrong. Liquid havent done anything to be considered a top10 team. In fact, theyve NEVER even beaten a top team except for lg
2015-12-01 23:39
#193
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Chile MrJav1er 
+1
2015-12-02 01:37
#351
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United States lumpy seal 
Which team besides c9 that's below Liquid could you see consistently beating c9 in bo3s? inb4 mousesports lol
2015-12-02 15:08
How is it related to beating c9? Mouz is obviously far better than liquid lmao, even titan could be a contender for their spot
2015-12-02 16:40
#400
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United States lumpy seal 
Sorry for typo haha been up all night. I'm not sure why you say Mouz is far better than liquid. I could agree that they're possibly better, but if so then not by much. Titan is also a fair argument but they're all so close that swapping their spots in the ranking isn't really a big deal
2015-12-02 19:18
looking at the teams' results mouz has done far more than tl
2015-12-02 19:26
Luminosity is #7 on a good day, they'll be back to getting their ass kicked by tier 6 NA teams.
2015-12-01 23:44
Mad cuz clown9 can't even qualify ?
2015-12-02 00:13
:( how much ):
2015-12-02 01:07
TSM number 2 and they havnt won a single lan in like 6 months now.
2015-12-01 23:51
exept they won PGL like 1 month ago. nice brain.
2015-12-02 13:05
The captions lmao
2015-12-01 23:52
LOL, GuardiaN 1.26 rating with runner-up from top tier being kennyS with 1.14 rating. This guy deserves more recognition, olof and kenny are a joke in comparison with his current form
2015-12-01 23:55
nip better than LG EleGiggle cmon stitch
2015-12-01 23:55
I'm just the way-too-intelligent writer bro, not the rankings maestro. also it's a quantitative system ?_?
2015-12-02 01:17
haha I know it's a quantitative system, but I thought that LG should have gotten more points considering they almost beat every top top tier team in 1 tourney. keep up the good work stitch
2015-12-02 01:26
Look at the weekly rankings and you'll see that this is actually the biggest rise I've seen in this ranking for a tournament ! They lost a lot of points because of changes before the tournament, those 400 points are huge
2015-12-02 01:47
400 points? shit that's a lot. if they didn't lose that many points they could be top5
2015-12-02 01:49
#260
Australia BCP 
they gained 222 points from the tournament which is massive in itself, but without the roster changes i dont think they would be ahead of navi. my guess is they wouldve been around the 480 points area without the roster changes, which means they would overtake nip before the end of the year considering LG will be in the ESEA finals whereas nip wont. i think LG can still overtake nip if they make it to semis at least, but it will be close. the 400 points topeiko mentioned is what they have right now
2015-12-02 08:42
#305
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Brazil markkrj 
iirc, each member that goes out takes 20% of team's points, they had 307 points before the roster move and 182 after as they lost ~122 + time factor... So they gained 222 points and have 404 now, which is huge!
2015-12-02 12:12
i don't know why i just think about it whem i see what you said. twitter.com/LG_ferGOD/status/67175516491..
2015-12-02 01:31
#306
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Brazil markkrj 
Hope you are being sarcastic here, and not idiot...
2015-12-02 12:13
what you think ?
2015-12-02 13:46
#328
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Brazil markkrj 
It was in warmup, all LG players knifed GTR and f0rest and posted those pics... everyone of them
2015-12-02 14:23
funny HAHAHAHAH
2015-12-02 15:24
#414
Poland MJP 
sad , its like you bro was fuck..g the girlfrend and you make the photo and post it. Even if that was in game , its normal to be knife as we all had that in the past.
2015-12-03 04:49
1.26 GuardiaN holy moly!
2015-12-01 23:57
+1
2015-12-02 08:25
How can anyone argue this list, it's all based on facts.
2015-12-02 00:02
Fanboys. Retards. Morons. Trolls. Freaks... the list goes on.
2015-12-02 02:40
#123
NAF | 
Canada ozboz 
Hahaha Conquest > Dignitas EZ
2015-12-02 00:04
Hey Stich, I guess you meant "lose" "be the only European team to loser their finals game"
2015-12-02 00:11
yes ty!
2015-12-02 01:19
There will never be a list where no one complains on hltv. Rankings are too subjective. At least this list will be consistent based on hltv metrics.
2015-12-02 00:13
generally decent list but liquid should not be above cloud9 and I think either of them being above mousesports/maybe titan is questionable, it depends on how highly you rate accomplishments at NA LANs tho. also TSM so onlineeeee
2015-12-02 00:13
Good list
2015-12-02 00:16
gobb 0.77 just wtf XD
2015-12-02 00:21
tsm 2? not even i can agree with that
2015-12-02 00:27
Pretty good ranking considering it's 100% numbers
2015-12-02 00:33
lol, tsm in second and nip above LG HHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH NEVER
2015-12-02 00:36
1) yes, be legend 3x times in a roll 2) qualify for important tournaments (with the best teams) 3) defeat at DW NV, Nip, and TSM all in BO3. And some people take this conclusion: G2> LG. kek! LG with Boltz and Bot steel 16-06 Cologne major.
2015-12-02 00:38
G2's fans are definetely the most delusional of all, even more than C9 TL fans!
2015-12-02 01:10
wake the fuck up. its the first t ime ever LG won a won ever!! come back when they do it more often. this ranking has been very kind to them #7 is max what they will ever get.
2015-12-02 13:07
Calm down, Device. It was just a game, you'll bounce back I'm sure!
2015-12-02 15:48
#144
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Finland no_man 
terrible. just give up the list and focus on better things, please.
2015-12-02 00:38
lol 4-VP ? kakakka
2015-12-02 00:38
TSM 4TH????? seriously? loss the iem final against navi and loss in semi finals against lg , lmaooooooooo
2015-12-02 00:44
#150
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Brazil Collee 
Godzera God fallen
2015-12-02 00:45
C9 and G2's ranking is bull.. They take to many points away, when they change players. System should value after results, not changes..
2015-12-02 00:51
Nip above g2 and lg wtf
2015-12-02 00:56
1.fnatic 2.envyus 3.vp 4.tsm 5.navi this should have been like that
2015-12-02 00:56
vp above tsm NO. but fnatic Yes. but all u idiots crying over the ranking,this is based on performance, so its 100% correct.
2015-12-02 13:09
vp won esl dubai at least
2015-12-02 16:34
#160
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Pakistan Caked_u9 
HLTV at its best. Great post. KreyGasm
2015-12-02 00:58
#163
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Argentina thankzz 
omg guardian
2015-12-02 01:00
-maikelele +schneider thanks
2015-12-02 01:03
The list, because of the points system, is justified, but if i would change something i would have more focus on LAN results rather than online. TSM seems to get ahead here because of their always solid online results. It feels a bit weird that NA gets 4 spots in the top 20 also. Because of their seperate qualifiers they often get many teams at high-ranking tournaments, but i guess hltv can't do anything about that so. Isn't this list based on the whole year? Which is why i find it a bit weird that conquest suddenly rockets into a 16th place after such a short hiatus. It's also still hard to believe NiP is still sitting nicely at 6th place. LG and G2 have performed better for a while now imo. Also, what i don't quite understand about Liquid is that they have achievementpoints of 138, almost tied to G2's 140 points, and G2 have reached a major semi, very close to reaching final, and IEM semi aswell. So what the hell have liquid really done that makes them almost tie them in points? Bombing out in groupstages and winning against NA and weak EU opponents..
2015-12-02 01:08
I like those kind of comments with arguments so I'll answer you :) 1. Still thinking about the "form" parameter and decreasing again the online matches importance. An estimation is 15% online for the whole ranking atm. 2. Indeed NA teams have easier ways to qualify to big LANs, they don't get as much points for the qualifications but as it's online we have for example : ESL ESEA online : TSM 10pts; Liquid 5pts for the same rankings in the leagues I think. It would be unfair to add another penalty in the LAN tournament itself but that boosts considerably the number of appearances of tier2 NA teams over tier2 EU teams.. Hope ESL/Faceit will do something about it ;) 3. All year achievements are recorded but last months weights way more. That's why last month result is not 1/12 of the total. Conquest did well on a recent LAN and we don't have 20 teams that came to LAN recently meaning they are good on the LANs sub-ranking. Adding to that the Dig/HR/SK/CPH Wolves/DenDD changes, E-Frag and Vexed not playing on LANs and that's why Conquest is so high ..for this month! 4. Liquid is an older team than G2, participating in more events (lot of leagues or NA tournaments) and the most important is that G2 had many roster changes that decreased their points twice ! The VP victory for Liquid boosted artificially their points, they are probably overrated in this ranking but that is balancing the lack of luck in their Major draw.. Hope you understand a bit more what is behind all this :)
2015-12-02 01:44
I didn't think so much about points deducted when teams made lineup changes, i thought it if the threeman-core was still in the team they would have the same points. It makes a lot more sense to me now. Thank you for elaborating on the list, you have done a superb job. Keep it up.
2015-12-02 01:50
Thank you too ! ;-)
2015-12-02 02:03
#223
Norway CC- 
Question; why do G2 drop so much in raiting from the roster change, while Fnatic doesn't? I mean, this month its okey, Fnatic did after all win the Faceit final at DH, but last month/last time the list was updated it stated just the same... G2 loose points from roster change.. Fnatic nothing.. i would say G2 could be even more powerful now with the new lineup.. but oh well.. thoughts?? One things 100% sure atlast, Fnatic are deff. stronger now that they replaced Pronax with Dennis
2015-12-02 02:50
#254
Australia BCP 
fnatic did drop a lot of points actually, they went from 760 to 589 but winning dhwinter was huge for them so they gained points back. g2 didnt do much since the roster change though so they stay where they are unfortunately. as for g2 being potentially stronger with aizy - sure, no doubt they are stronger, but this ranking is not looking for teams with potential - its looking for teams with achievements. g2 have amazing potential, but they need to convert it into results - which is probably something to look out for in 2016 :]
2015-12-02 08:21
Conquest? Lol they shouldn't be here
2015-12-02 01:07
#253
Australia BCP 
name me a team that deserves to be in top 20 instead of conquest
2015-12-02 08:15
Me
2015-12-02 08:28
#258
Australia BCP 
i like ketchup too
2015-12-02 08:28
#170
tezay | 
Brazil tzy 
first
2015-12-02 01:07
liquid 9. :DDDDDDDD
2015-12-02 01:16
This list is stupid... TSM zero major wins and Fnatic got three. I know TSM is good online/small offline tournaments but majors are more important.
2015-12-02 01:16
Just because the prize is higher?
2015-12-02 01:27
Well sort of but my point is majors more viewers, more pressure.
2015-12-02 01:40
#216
Gux | 
Sweden EczeL  
The thing is that TSM was better more recently..
2015-12-02 02:13
Exactly because the prize is higher. Players are much more motivated when there's 100k dollars for first place.
2015-12-02 02:02
+1
2015-12-02 09:59
so becuse valve says this is a major ts more important, and who gives a fuck about those kids who only view the games for the drops. get a clue plz. majors are so fucking overrated.
2015-12-02 13:12
1. Valve said Dreamhack Winter 2015 is major? I dont think so 2. Price pool does matter, let me give excample like IEM San Jose was week earlier than DHW. How many europe teams in IEM San Jose? Four. How many europe teams was both tournaments? Two TSM and VP. I dont count NA teams because they have less traveling than europe teams. Okey last question how many europe teams skip IEM San Jose? Fnatic, NiP and EnVyUs. So TSM and VP are greedy and yes they got extra ranking. So nice try TSM fan
2015-12-03 01:51
Teams that focussed/qualified on only one event (NaVI/fnatic) did better than VP/TSM and earned more points.. So the greedy teams aren't always rewarded
2015-12-03 02:25
+1 Your short comment tell more than mine. Thx Fella
2015-12-03 05:11
Yea NiP should be #2 after fnatic coz 5 major finals. #1 if you actually use your brain and count 87-0. Which other team has 87-0, none so nip #1.
2015-12-02 16:56
This ranking isnt all time... Only year 2015. So your 87-0 and 5 major finals dont count. Well okey only one major final but thats it.
2015-12-03 01:26
LG top 6 soon
2015-12-02 01:19
lg #1
2015-12-02 01:21
American man keeps Liquid performing well with secret formula. Brazilians hate him! AHHAHAHAHAHA
2015-12-02 01:22
Secret formula??? Secret.Hiko confirmed?
2015-12-02 11:28
Liquid > C9 :O Oh wait, yeah, C9 only have 4 players atm
2015-12-02 01:25
#188
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Germany GeoRg___J 
yeah TSM > Fnatic nice b8
2015-12-02 01:27
#252
Australia BCP 
fnatic had roster changes which lost them points, and did pretty bad the two months before the roster changes which meant they didnt have too many points to begin with - which is why tsm is slightly ahead of them.
2015-12-02 08:14
nice speech while high.
2015-12-02 16:37
#189
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Poland sajlent 
top 10 is pretty accurate
2015-12-02 01:28
could not agree more
2015-12-02 01:29
#198
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Brazil hugoooo 
Fix the '+/-' thing please, they are different here and on the ranking itself page (where LG is +7).
2015-12-02 01:46
the +/- thing in the table is in relation to the october 2015 ranking article, I'll add a sentence about that
2015-12-02 01:52
#251
Australia BCP 
very clever picture description on hiko :D very good job writing the whole thing, well done
2015-12-02 08:12
#199
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Brazil Poshoclo 
"American man keeps Liquid performing well with secret formula. Brazilians hate him!" LOL
2015-12-02 01:47
G2>>LG
2015-12-02 02:05
HLTV.org rankings flowchart Check for your team If the team you support is ranked higher than it should you cannot speak otherwise you are a 'fangay'. If the team you support is ranked lower than you think discredit the system. Wait until next edition.
2015-12-02 02:32
#250
Australia BCP 
pretty good summary lol
2015-12-02 08:10
#218
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Canada Lizzie 
your ranking gets worse every week i expect better from hltv
2015-12-02 02:39
#221
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Brazil rmarques 
Here comes LG haters.
2015-12-02 02:45
#222
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Macau fAKEs2j 
Guardian 1.26 rating, holy shit... Guardian = xantares in space soldiers.
2015-12-02 02:48
good photo of rain
2015-12-02 03:18
#226
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United States fallenfan 
+1 to godzera
2015-12-02 03:21
Renegades is our Only Hope.
2015-12-02 03:25
culters name backwards is so fucking ugly...
2015-12-02 03:31
#229
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Kyrgyzstan Devilr0ck 
godzera
2015-12-02 03:33
#230
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Brazil yxkz 
this is what ive been saying for a while... guardian is the best csgo player nowadays
2015-12-02 04:07
13.clg ahahahahahah
2015-12-02 04:12
Guardian, device and Olof, top 3 player def!
2015-12-02 04:27
the funny fact abt it they all play with AWP very well, but Guardian is a god!
2015-12-02 04:28
TSM is shit fnatic>tsm other than that its right
2015-12-02 04:55
stich's meme game is on point. Jokes aside, good read!
2015-12-02 05:08
does lurppis not work for hltv anymore?
2015-12-02 06:06
he write articles in followesports i think, quit hltv a few months ago if i'm not wrong
2015-12-02 06:23
NiP > LG hltv confirmed
2015-12-02 07:33
#245
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Luxembourg alex24 
envy wins 9 matches, looses 6, and still no.1 ? i aren`t think that meanwhile fnatic 11 wins, 3 looses for november and in 2015 wins 2/3 majors and other big lans, still top3 ?
2015-12-02 07:36
Sigh
2015-12-02 12:08
+1
2015-12-02 19:11
well it's based on raw results pretty much but liquid made me laugh a little inside
2015-12-02 07:58
#259
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United Kingdom Theodoooore 
Dignitas below F3 Renegades and CLG? Dont make me laugh. They are a solid team who I think could easily become top 10 in the coming year.
2015-12-02 08:42
nice list. Fnatic has won 2 majors this year and they are top3?
2015-12-02 08:53
#339
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
A little more interesting list: gosugamers.net/counterstrike/rankings
2015-12-02 14:39
You should really do some elo ranking's, right now teams are being rewarded for the amount of points they can farm at tier 2 events, not for the quality of opposition they are beating.
2015-12-02 08:58
#269
Australia BCP 
actually tier2 events get very very little. take for example liquid vs LG. liquid finished 2nd at iBP cup and gained 67 points, LG finished 2nd at DHW and gained 222 points. thats more than 3 times as much, farming points isnt that easy actually.
2015-12-02 09:08
pretty accurate,i just dont understand how can be liquid before c9.i mean liquid achieved almost nothing on lans with eu teams while c9 had 3 finals + they just won 2 lans in NA in a row
2015-12-02 08:59
#266
Australia BCP 
c9 lost points due to sgares retiring, also liquid beat vp pretty hard - no snax true but still big result.
2015-12-02 09:05
i actually did read the article so i know that its also because of that line up change.it was more like rethorical question but i still dont get it and i still think that they should be ranked before TL. beating vp without snax is one thing but winning 2 tournaments in a row is completely another one(+ these 3 final finishers in the past)
2015-12-02 09:08
#272
Australia BCP 
the 3 finals are almost irrelevanrt, and the 2 tournaments c9 won liquid came 2nd and 3rd in. liquid also came 3-4th at san jose which got them a decent amount of points, but c9 didnt attend any other events besides those 2 wins iirc whereas liquid attended like 5 lans this month, which means liquid overall gain points there, enough points to overtake c9 after a lineup change penalty.
2015-12-02 09:13
15.Renegades 16.Conquest ............... 20.Hellraisers hahahaha
2015-12-02 09:04
#273
Australia BCP 
HR dindu nuffin in the last 3 months
2015-12-02 09:14
#314
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
20. who?
2015-12-02 13:09
#271
GuardiaN | 
Slovakia fpmK 
GuardiaN what a monster :DDD gj topeiko as always
2015-12-02 09:13
#282
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Philippines gicama_ 
I love how people base their own rankings on which team could beat which team.. this is based on results not theory crafting you dimwits... how can teams who has barely played any lan get higher rankings? because you think they can beat the other team? stupid way of judging... my guess is this ranking is sort of based on the elo ranking for chess players which btw you only get points by actually beating someone and not you being "theoretically" better than them.
2015-12-02 09:58
#311
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
So.. based in result points, SA team top NA team. ;**
2015-12-02 13:07
unnecessary
2015-12-02 16:17
#368
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
I know, just can't resist
2015-12-02 16:32
It's childish, you can do better tha that.
2015-12-02 17:09
#387
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
I don't think so, just a joke as they will do when the opposite happens. Relax my friend, the life can be happy
2015-12-02 18:31
ranking is quite absurd yes... if mit would be more realstic about skill and not about some earned points on some lans or something it would probably be ... for this year: 1. fnatic 2. nV 3. VP 5. TSM 5. Navi think this is to 90 percent correct (including majors, general skills, even including online amtches but less impactfully) for last 4 months it would probably be like: 1. nV 2. (very close second) fnatic 3. NaVi 4. VP 5. TSM? my opinion..
2015-12-02 10:00
yes..tsm didn't even win a major lmfao and 2nd yet..wow
2015-12-02 19:13
Lol, nV #1 what a fucking joke.
2015-12-02 10:00
#289
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Portugal tnyk1ng 
umad bro?
2015-12-02 10:22
<3 apEX Expected
2015-12-02 10:25
hi newfag
2015-12-02 12:06
Newfag? I'm famous, thirdie.
2015-12-02 13:44
#427
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Portugal tnyk1ng 
expected? I could have: <3 device <3 dupreeh <3 olofmeister <3 JW <3 Neo <3 GuardiaN
2015-12-04 00:43
Yeah, you could have. But you're not.
2015-12-04 01:44
#430
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Portugal tnyk1ng 
nice englando.
2015-12-04 05:14
Haha wow, this will be fun. What's wrong with my English? Please explain.
2015-12-04 05:20
#434
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Portugal tnyk1ng 
"have" and "you're" don't fit at all.
2015-12-04 18:27
I does tho. You're wrong. You could have had either one of those, but you're not having any of them. Works perfectly.
2015-12-07 13:32
#436
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Portugal tnyk1ng 
you are right, he is not.
2015-12-07 21:45
He's right and you know it. Just stop..
2015-12-08 03:53
says the guy who is a joke everyday. u constantly spew shit,so ur opinion is not worth shit! top 3 is Nv/fnatic TSM in that order, cant be argued with rly.
2015-12-02 13:15
Okay. Good to know, stalker.
2015-12-02 13:45
like always notning but shit comming out of ur mouth.
2015-12-02 15:54
n1
2015-12-02 10:34
#296
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
Much funny photo descriptions. KappaPride
2015-12-02 11:31
rip nip :(((((((( rip allu :((( rip friberg :(((
2015-12-02 11:57
Guardian 1.26 // LOL top 1.
2015-12-02 12:07
FNATIC> tsm dignitas> Cloud9 HR and e-frag zero points on LANs... wtf they doing in this list? AND WHERE IS BRAVADO?!!!! 0_0
2015-12-02 12:43
#317
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Brazil bacon1 
who says 16 x 0 ? hahahaha
2015-12-02 13:13
LG > NiP
2015-12-02 14:27
BULLSHIT!
2015-12-02 14:28
4me 1. fnatic 2. tsm 3. vp 4. envyus 5. navi
2015-12-02 14:28
And if LG (7th) win against TSM (2nd) on ESL ESEA (BO3) again....
2015-12-02 14:34
#336
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
A little more interesting list: gosugamers.net/counterstrike/rankings
2015-12-02 14:36
I know what you are doing here brazilian guy :) Hope they'll be that high in this ranking one day too, this is the best surprise of this year imo. You can be proud of them!
2015-12-02 14:38
Guardian 1.26 lel :D
2015-12-02 14:57
HR 20th. I mean yes, they have done nothing, but they could probably beat teams 12-19 lol
2015-12-02 15:16
Good accurate list. Mouz sure fell off from their past lan performances when they were lookin best lol
2015-12-02 15:53
HR EFRAG AND DIGNITAS and maybe vexed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conquest wtf? :D
2015-12-02 17:02
tsm nr 2? fnatic nr 3? wtf :D 1. nV 2. fnatic 3. tsm
2015-12-02 17:25
fnatic nr 1 kek
2015-12-02 17:57
7 - lg 8 - kinguin joke
2015-12-02 18:33
this is by point!! lets see, someone team dont participated major, 0 points but are better than someone participated major x point. other exemple: G2 MUCH BETTER THAN vp ( top 8 vs top 4)
2015-12-02 19:02
i still don't get why is fnatic 3rd after winning KATOWICE and COLOGNE in this year..and tsm still above them after not even winning a major LAN event..
2015-12-02 19:10
"The biggest hit to Cloud9 in the points system came from them losing a core member in Gares, and the team's ability to hold top ten with just four players will be challenged in the coming month." lolwut, this guy suggests that cloud9 are going to continue playing in tournaments with 4 players until they get their replacement lmao
2015-12-02 19:12
they suggest - Gares + Hunden
2015-12-03 12:35
LG > Nip
2015-12-02 19:13
#407
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France StickyRice 
TSM : achievements 500 LMAO
2015-12-02 21:09
I Don't think That ENVY S DESERVE THE NR 1 SPOT When FNATIC Has Been overall the most consisn't team in the TOP 5 ENVYUS ARE ONLY NR 1 Because they won the Major
2015-12-03 09:02
#417
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Ukraine fallenaxe 
This list is a joke
2015-12-03 09:30
Fnatic #1
2015-12-03 12:29
Great list! LG is reaching at least top 3 next year!
2015-12-03 16:05
Guardian godlike
2015-12-03 16:18
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