ENCE returns with a new lineup

ENCE have revealed their new lineup today, putting an end to speculation on where finnish top AWPer Aleksi "allu" Jalli will be playing.

ENCE eSports didn't wait long after the new year to reveal their new lineup, a quintet of Finns featuring one of the most talked about players in the past month, Aleksi "allu" Jalli, who is also number 19 on our top 20 ranking of 2015.


allu will try his luck at home after European incursions

The team is also bringing on board a support network of well known figures in the Finnish and international scenes, including players turned analysts Joona "natu" Leppänen and Tomi "lurppis" Kovanen, who will be taking on managerial roles.

Joining allu under the ENCE banner will be Tom "stonde" Glad, Juho "juho" Lampinen, Miikka "suNny" Kemppi, and Mikko "xartE" Välimaa, who were seen playing together in MIXCAT and winning ASUS ROG last fall.

natu's statement:

"We've had professional organisations in Finland in the past, but none has ever been able to provide circumstances where the players have had the opportunity to consider themselves as fulltime professional players. We can happily say our team now is in that situation and with our backing we're certain they can simply focus on one thing: playing."

lurppis' statement:

"Finland has never had a CS team with proper backing before, so I am very excited to be a part of ENCE. With allu starring in the team, we know with hard work ENCE can bring Finland back to contention for titles, which is what Counter-Strike is all about."

The players that will be representing ENCE are:

Finland Aleksi "allu" Jalli
Finland Tom "stonde" Glad
Finland Miikka "suNny" Kemppi
Finland Juho "juho" Lampinen
Finland Mikko "xartE" Välimaa

Finland Mikko 'xartE' Välimaa
Mikko 'xartE' Välimaa
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
959
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Finland Tom 'stonde' Glad
Tom 'stonde' Glad
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
219
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.11
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1041
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Finland Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Aleksi 'allu' Jalli
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1391
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.11
Finland Joona 'natu' Leppänen
Joona 'natu' Leppänen
Age:
34
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.88
Maps played:
188
KPR:
0.61
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.16
Finland Juho 'juho' Lampinen
Juho 'juho' Lampinen
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
724
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.14
Finland Tomi 'lurppis' Kovanen
Tomi 'lurppis' Kovanen
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
28
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.17
wxpected
2016-01-04 15:39
#19
oskar | 
Europe gatsby__ 
where is jOelz???
2016-01-04 15:40
Hopefully sticking to minced meat.
2016-01-04 15:41
ayyy lmao
2016-01-04 15:58
+1
2016-01-04 16:16
#40
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Switzerland BottomFragger 
ikr
2016-01-04 15:41
Why? He's irrelevant.
2016-01-04 15:54
not on LAN
2016-01-04 16:00
Taking an cheater to team isnt good decision.
2016-01-04 16:03
Who is a cheater ?
2016-01-04 16:28
From a German guy ROFL
2016-01-04 16:31
Always read the small print dog, or in his case the full size capital font.
2016-01-04 16:38
Sorry my friend, internet really got me today
2016-01-04 19:18
only because he is german he cant say that other guys are cheating?
2016-01-04 16:49
exactly
2016-01-04 17:03
well if he was German it would be the equivalent of a pedophile protesting to protect children from abuse....
2016-01-04 21:22
no its not lmao
2016-01-04 22:05
Do you see catholic priest asking for little boys to not be raped? Do you see germans asking for better anti-cheats? Exactly. Nt turkish fakeflagger.
2016-01-05 06:53
he is just saying that its not a good decision to bring a cheater into a team, therefore its not the same.
2016-01-05 13:19
i arent hink that.
2016-01-05 13:52
Fakeflaggere united , im actually finlandese
2016-01-04 17:10
a cheater* isn't* a good decision*
2016-01-04 17:21
sorry
2016-01-04 18:28
Np mate. Hltv needs education as well.
2016-01-04 18:41
*into a team
2016-01-04 19:11
playing with hackers (and most likely hacking himself) in dingit cups
2016-01-04 16:13
why would a team aiming high be willing to add a player who would never go to lan? ;)
2016-01-04 16:46
poor allu deserve G2 SPOT
2016-01-04 15:40
fox > allu
2016-01-04 15:41
Poor allu? This team will be better than nip. Nip with fatberg will be as shit as they were 2015
2016-01-04 15:42
#55
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Slovenia Josip09 
rofl there is no way this team will do better than nip at majors
2016-01-04 15:43
NiP with pyth and fatberg is shit. NiP shouldve gotten maikel or twist. Now forest needs to awp since they dont have a dedicated awper
2016-01-04 15:45
mohamed please
2016-01-04 15:47
My name is not mohammed, also the most common name is mohammad, not mohammed. Nt tho. Your only good player is maniac hahahah
2016-01-04 15:49
ok mohamad
2016-01-04 15:50
Sir, you must me retarded, if you are saying, that this team will be better than NiP. NiP isn't good right know, but they aren't bad neither. TOP4/8 at majors, many second places. They're still capable of beating many good teams like EnVy, Fnatic or TQM. Even if they will be worse with pyth, even if they will be at let's say mousesports/dignitas level. They will still be better than them.
2016-01-04 15:48
I honestly think that at this point ENCE would win vs NiP in bo3
2016-01-04 15:52
Yeah, other t2/t3 teams can with against them too, in 6 months they will be t3, then t4.
2016-01-04 15:53
and nip t5
2016-01-04 21:31
+1
2016-01-04 16:03
ENCE has something that NiP doesn't seem to have anymore: motivation.
2016-01-04 21:07
You don't win the game because you have motivation.
2016-01-04 21:55
That's important. allu is very skilled. I don't know much about the other ones, but allu refused offers so that he could build a 100% finnish team. That means something.
2016-01-04 23:25
Yes, it is important, but that won't win you the game. Allu isn't really skilled tbh, he can be one time BOT Allu and one time GOD Allu, even if he would go GOD mode, i still don't believe that ENCE would have a chance to win.
2016-01-05 07:02
He's one of the best players in the world and he was an asset in NiP, third best player, after legends like GTR and f0rest. He has inside knowledge after playing with them for so long. It is just a matter of time until ENCE beats NiP. :)
2016-01-05 08:49
He is really inconsistent, one game he can play 0:11, and another one 11:0 with crazy shots from AWP. Even tho, ENCE won't be top8, i hardly doubt that they were ever beat them in important tournament/league.
2016-01-05 13:12
"allu isn't really skilled tbh" What the fuck dude? :D
2016-01-05 11:26
I meant, he isn't consistent player. 1 game, 0:11, another 11:0. For example, at ESL One, he was playing bad whole tournament, expect grandfinal. He need to work on his consistentency.
2016-01-05 13:13
But with the skill of the players and their success in the past, they should be a lot better than they are.
2016-01-04 23:54
They asked Twist 3 times but he said no.
2016-01-04 16:20
#211
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Estonia swag420weed 
Friberg will be his dedicated rifle/awp holder, so he can switch when he wants
2016-01-04 16:25
pyth wont be the reason why nip disbands
2016-01-04 16:53
#334
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United Kingdom Bravid 
Everyone says NiP are shit. Which is true, if you compare them to their previous form. They are still a top 8 team, also you can't just instantly say Pyth is shit without him even playing a map with NiP. Who knows, maybe he'll exceed all expectations under THREAT and end up doing really well in his role. (admittedly though, friberg is a pile of shit)
2016-01-04 17:33
youre delusional, even nip playing bad last year almost won fnatic,vp,envyus in big tournaments, dont be rude.
2016-01-04 15:44
Almost? Ahahaha. NiP sucks dick and you're too delusional to admit it.
2016-01-04 15:46
They're TOP6 atm.
2016-01-04 15:54
Sorry you arent delusion you just hate nip, expected from hltv
2016-01-04 16:08
Fnatic fans are the worst
2016-01-04 16:19
Maybe because fnatic wins majors and tournaments. What does nip win? Oh wait, nothing. hahahha
2016-01-04 16:20
What does that have to do with anything?
2016-01-04 16:21
We have a reason to be overminded, our favourite team is the worlds best when your favourite team is 10th. Also your favourite player is the worst entryfragger but the best entrydier
2016-01-04 16:24
Are you mentally retarded?
2016-01-04 16:27
Could you explain what part of my text is retardness? Thank mr friberg
2016-01-04 16:32
#220
Gux | 
Sweden EczeL  
Kids these days..
2016-01-04 16:28
LOL KID GTFO
2016-01-04 17:57
Finland 2-1 Sweden
2016-01-05 00:04
I'm finnish, im just fake flagging breh
2016-01-05 00:05
todista
2016-01-05 00:06
You realize that the lineup is not same for NiP?
2016-01-04 17:23
*nip playing like always and others playing better
2016-01-04 19:58
#70
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
+1
2016-01-04 15:46
allu doesnt even deserve a tier 3 team. he sucks too much
2016-01-04 16:21
Funny joke Kappa
2016-01-04 20:55
noob
2016-01-04 17:11
ENCE > FNATIC
2016-01-04 15:39
no disturbed no party
2016-01-04 15:42
KQLY > world
2016-01-04 16:54
Dont watch his stream. Your world will fall apart.
2016-01-04 17:07
#5
France Quono 
This lineup has the potential to be top8 at majors. Also i see some sick money going in there. Seems like lurrpis and natu are gonna be ideal. Even tho natu is nore on the business side of things, i see them both helping out the team and we may see some good classic EU cs. Hype. P.S 5th
2016-01-04 15:42
+1 Cant wait to see what they can do! With MTW coming back as well this is going to be an exciting year for us CS dinosaurs. This line up should wrek some crews though!
2016-01-04 21:25
Mtw... haha u jinxed it. Tip mtw without zonic
2016-01-04 21:30
I saw that, I really think it's a shitty move to his team mates, but I imagine the money is hard to turn down.
2016-01-05 00:03
Yeah. Especially, to think that their org signed a 7man squad. Yeap Dupreeg Xyp Devve Karrigan Cajun Zonic Realition ( fbyskov) So apparently its a big org, and possibly an NA org with no roots in cs hence they signed fbyskov to take care of business in EU side of things
2016-01-05 02:30
let's go Finland \o
2016-01-04 15:39
#7
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Netherlands SharpS 
3late
2016-01-04 15:39
#8
Germany Labi 
HYPE
2016-01-04 15:39
nt göbbels
2016-01-04 15:58
nt göhring
2016-01-04 16:55
#10
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Portugal mrsc 
sick
2016-01-04 15:39
Expected.
2016-01-04 15:39
very nice
2016-01-04 15:39
#13
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
GOOD LUCK SUOMI
2016-01-04 15:39
THANKS VIRO
2016-01-04 16:36
NICE
2016-01-04 15:39
#16
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Germany P3tR 
nice
2016-01-04 15:40
#17
Mexico hu5h 
LETS GO
2016-01-04 15:40
#18
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Poland matblo 
looks ok, gl guys
2016-01-04 15:40
glHF!
2016-01-04 15:40
God allu & co gonna start rekking now that they can focus full-time on cs. God lurppis gonna carry the organisation and joelz will provide minced meat for the whole team while they are bootcamping so proper CSGO nutrition is not a problem. GLHF boys, looking forward to seeing you in majors
2016-01-04 15:40
expected
2016-01-04 15:40
#24
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India Gandhii4 
expected
2016-01-04 15:40
top10 world
2016-01-04 15:40
GOD ALLU BUT MAX TIER 3
2016-01-04 15:41
3dmax was a t2 team with worse lineup, how can u think ence max tier3?
2016-01-04 16:03
Stupid ppl be stupid ppl. Everyone are really underestimating this lineup. I can't really see them outside top 10 teams, when they've trained for some time.
2016-01-04 16:51
I can see them taking a position like Vexed, they might make it into majors but I'd expect them to go 1-2 at best
2016-01-04 22:59
#28
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Slovakia itsab8 
nice n1
2016-01-04 15:41
nice
2016-01-04 15:40
No jOELZ? disapointed kappa Real question, does he really cheat or hes he just afraid on lans?
2016-01-04 15:40
#132
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Ukraine tereza 
There is answer inside your question already.
2016-01-04 15:59
He doesn't cheat. Apparently he just has some mental problems or something.
2016-01-04 16:52
ALLU WITH 4 BOTS FailFish
2016-01-04 15:40
ez allu, ez suNny
2016-01-04 15:40
#34
allu | 
Finland Tuure :] 
Let's go!
2016-01-04 15:41
#35
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Finland Paahtonautti 
tier 1 confirmed. PERHE TAISTELEE!
2016-01-04 15:41
+1
2016-01-04 15:41
tier3 max
2016-01-04 15:41
good luck to them
2016-01-04 15:41
TOP1 WORLD GOD ALLU
2016-01-04 15:41
#43
nitr0 | 
Netherlands TTHump 
lurppis hype
2016-01-04 15:41
#44
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Spain Alser 
Top 16 material
2016-01-04 15:41
#64
Finland teco 
Spain cs deaded since 2007. :(
2016-01-04 15:44
#78
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Spain Alser 
I didn't insult ENCE with my statement. It was actually a compliment meaning that I think the'll make it to every major (16 best teams in the world). I don't know why you felt that you had to mention Spain at all
2016-01-04 15:47
Oh sorry I got you wrong. Its too rare to see a compliment here. :D But honestly top16 is not nearly enough considering the potential Finland has. We were always in top10, sometimes top5 or even top1 in earlier CS versions. But yeah maybe this is the beginning of Finland's climb back into the top10.
2016-01-04 15:55
#45
Finland JKRr 
Finally a decent finnish team! Good luck bois
2016-01-04 15:41
#47
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Sweden godname 
hahah where is jOELZ? if he is so good?
2016-01-04 15:42
#58
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Finland Paahtonautti 
Joelz not taking playing seriously..
2016-01-04 15:43
#59
Estonia rYm 
he is playing with cheats and avoiding lans
2016-01-04 15:44
He hasn't really played CS that much lately. More h1z1 :D He just cant take gaming, serious enough. Thats pretty much the answer.
2016-01-04 16:55
tier 3
2016-01-04 15:42
tier 2 atm tier 1 end of year
2016-01-04 15:58
#175
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Yugoslavia Malityc 
ok bro u can dream
2016-01-04 16:14
I think thats just reality. You'll see.
2016-01-04 16:56
ence > nip
2016-01-04 15:42
:(
2016-01-04 15:43
#54
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
Gl boiss
2016-01-04 15:43
Gl boys
2016-01-04 15:43
#60
Finland teco 
Nice lineup, but im pretty sceptical about juho. Lets see what happens.
2016-01-04 15:44
#81
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Finland Jiksu 
Exactly my thoughts. Juho seems to have potential though, we'll see if he can step up now with being full time. Hype is real.
2016-01-04 15:48
Why so? I think juho is great.
2016-01-04 16:56
#397
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Germany Chris Walker 
+1
2016-01-04 18:30
#566
suNny | 
Finland m1skaa 
#newjuho
2016-01-05 14:09
GOD ALLU :3
2016-01-04 15:44
GOD ALLU
2016-01-04 15:45
no joelz no win
2016-01-04 15:45
#71
Poland perM 
Worst move ALLU :(
2016-01-04 15:46
#75
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
wtf u high?
2016-01-04 15:46
#82
Poland perM 
0% chance for majors sad for him :(
2016-01-04 15:48
#86
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
They played in a major already with a shittier lineup. This team will be in all majors easily
2016-01-04 15:49
2016-01-04 16:01
katowice 15 allu carried them to major and then moved to nip
2016-01-04 16:42
I think it was xarte who totally destroyed mousesports(?) in the deciding match. Allu didn't play in that. Edit: xarte did destroy them and allu played in that match. Sorry my mistake.
2016-01-07 14:54
they already got to major with worse lineup (3dmax)
2016-01-04 15:57
2016-01-04 16:03
2016-01-04 16:06
disturbed was a beast at that time I think that lineup was better than this.
2016-01-04 16:06
#245
JW | 
Finland Ilucs 
disturbed was never a beast. I disagree with you.
2016-01-04 16:44
and juho&sunny are a beasts?
2016-01-04 16:49
2016-01-04 16:50
and also KHRN is bad
2016-01-04 16:58
+1 fact :D
2016-01-04 17:00
Yep, exactly. Besides, Stonde is a lot better now than he was when they got to major. He is getting closer to that Source form ;) This lineup really is better than 3dmax was.
2016-01-04 16:59
#72
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Estonia Qlity 
HYPE top 12 ez
2016-01-04 15:46
#73
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
RIP allu
2016-01-04 15:46
This can be really good
2016-01-04 15:46
-xarte +disturbed would be better imo.
2016-01-04 15:47
I dont think the roles fit too well in that case. xarte is a solid player and disturbed is retired.
2016-01-04 17:00
-juho hes not that good tbh
2016-01-04 15:48
#83
jOELZ | 
Finland jleh 
gl shaker
2016-01-04 15:48
RIP allu career. From pretty solid tier 1 team to tier 3 team that will probably disband in upcoming 6 minths
2016-01-04 15:48
they are playing fulltime, probably gonna be a great team and not going to disband)
2016-01-04 15:53
This lineup isnt tier 3 lol They can be ez in top 15 imo
2016-01-04 21:11
#87
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Finland f0pZ 
Expected One of the best two awper setups in csgo. and jOELZ carrying in online matches
2016-01-04 15:49
all the best to them, but juho? pls, i've destroyed him one too many times on faceit that it's not even funny
2016-01-04 15:49
As if that would tell anything.
2016-01-04 17:03
#91
Ale | 
Finland ksib 
TORILLE
2016-01-04 15:49
#92
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Finland gouca 
#torillatavataan
2016-01-04 15:49
"ENCE returns with allu" That's the proper title.
2016-01-04 15:50
Allu signs ENCE and other 4 Bots
2016-01-04 15:56
"allu signs ENCE" indeed would have been the best, you won :D
2016-01-04 17:19
ez lurpiss
2016-01-04 15:51
NEW TIER 1 CONFIRMATION CONFIRMED
2016-01-04 15:52
This team will struggle to qualify for anything, sorry.
2016-01-04 15:52
Amazing! Good luck to Finland! :-) Also, how about you link your source, HLTVorg??
2016-01-04 15:53
allu from nip with juho in team.. For this team become a MAX tier 2 team need -juho +disturbed -xartE +natu
2016-01-04 15:54
xare is a great player, disturbed is retired
2016-01-04 15:56
Juho is better than those 2 you listed.
2016-01-04 15:59
#131
KRIMZ | 
Poland deolic 
juho is a really good player. He is just inconsistent. I really like disturbed and I remember his beast mode but he didn't perform well lately - when he played in these Finnish mix teams. And about +natu - I don't think it's a good idea. His fragging power isn't enough. He might be a coach though. His knowledge about the game may be a useful thing for them.
2016-01-04 15:59
-xarte +natu Makes no sense what so ever
2016-01-04 16:02
Both "improvements" you said are actually HUGE downgrades. Obviously you have no clue about the matter.
2016-01-04 17:07
#109
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France Kairos1g 
no jOELZ no win
2016-01-04 15:55
It's some cool guys they got in management.
2016-01-04 15:55
most expected thing in 2016 so far xD
2016-01-04 15:55
Wait till around August, NiP disband more expected
2016-01-05 04:04
bring in aslak instead of stonde or xarte
2016-01-04 15:55
What, are you joking? Stonde is propably the best player in that lineup.
2016-01-04 17:09
#114
REAL | 
Norway kakkopp 
Tier 100
2016-01-04 15:56
Still better tha Noway scene
2016-01-04 15:57
#166
REAL | 
Norway kakkopp 
Get baited! And no! Lc and lgb done more than any finish team, (they always crushed them in matches) also h2k won your local finish lan with all ur best teams.
2016-01-04 16:08
rain jkaem>all finish scenne
2016-01-04 16:22
btw, where is jigetus, basic, aslak? +allu and +igl (or plaste/ruuit/conte)
2016-01-04 15:57
tier2
2016-01-04 15:57
yup. Juho is a bot though.
2016-01-04 15:59
juho is very good
2016-01-04 16:36
dude stop being so fanboy.. i mean there's no offence in calling juho a bot, did you actually check those stats? LOL exclude all those matches against nonamers, please. i mean, if we're gonna take you serious, then the top10 rating on LAN would be: 1-NiKo/2-GeT_RiGhT/3-s1mple/4-juho/5-kennyS 6-suNny/7-f0rest/8-coldzera/9-GuardiaN/10-device do you find anything wrong? yeah, juho and suNny wrecks finns, the others are pretty much beasts by the way, could be a solid list without finns and + some changes.
2016-01-04 17:41
Well it is a bit offence calling him a bot. I'm not saying he is as good as s1mple, guardian or device etc, but he is not as bad as people say he is. Stop talking when you propably haven't watched a single match he has played. Thats the big problem here. Most people have no idea about the players in that lineup except allu, yet they talk shit. Well, you'll be all surprised then.
2016-01-04 17:45
why the hell would i call him a bot if i didn't watch his games? i seriously did, and i mean yeah it can be an offence, but this is hltv, the guy called him a bot because he is no good, and that i can guarantee.. what you're talking about is exactly what his stats are "showing", he played a lot of local games and was good at it, but against SERIOUS teams (the matches that i DID watch), i could clearly say he was bad, of course i can be wrong and you're right and juho is a genius, but i don't think that's ever gonna happen
2016-01-04 17:54
The matches I've watched him play him, which I think were in that joelz onliner team, he was poor, thats all. HLTV stats are a joke.
2016-01-04 18:10
Lets go my brothers, gl WINLAND!
2016-01-04 15:59
#134
jOELZ | 
Finland jleh 
if xarte steps up his game they might have a chance to actually succeed. he's like finnish friberg hltv.org/?pageid=246&playerid=7537
2016-01-04 16:00
#135
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Finland NUCL3AR 
This is actually really cool to see, it has always been excuse to finnish teams to not succees in cs that they cant do it as full-time -job. Hopefully results will be good this time around, #IWantToBelieveInWinland
2016-01-04 16:00
Yay
2016-01-04 16:00
lets gooo gl allu
2016-01-04 16:02
EZ FOR SUNNY
2016-01-04 16:02
GOD ALLU
2016-01-04 16:03
Uk >
2016-01-04 16:04
expected
2016-01-04 16:04
This seems solid, best of luck boyz!
2016-01-04 16:04
GL
2016-01-04 16:04
sunny and allu on a team together is scary tbh. These dudes can honestly get to majors, but we haven't even seen a full match, so can't judge their top 8 potential.
2016-01-04 16:06
last finnish hope
2016-01-04 16:06
to bad disturbed dosent play anymore such beast
2016-01-04 16:07
gl
2016-01-04 16:09
rip allu
2016-01-04 16:10
this team can be good in a short time
2016-01-04 16:11
Shitland :/
2016-01-04 16:12
#214
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Finland Jonzu95 
how much?
2016-01-04 16:27
nice flag
2016-01-04 17:40
Nice team, they actually COULD win something!
2016-01-04 16:14
Wtf no joelz????
2016-01-04 16:15
#178
Europe g_G 
gl
2016-01-04 16:15
rofl lurppis calling himself proper backing :D
2016-01-04 16:15
why do I read hltv comments
2016-01-04 16:20
and how could u deny that?
2016-01-05 12:03
nice t10 team
2016-01-04 16:15
Tier 2 obviously.
2016-01-04 16:15
better than current nip
2016-01-04 16:15
#186
s1mple | 
Finland Jeppeh 
Shoulda been disturbed instead of juho, but gl
2016-01-04 16:17
im wondering where they've got the money from to go fulltime. ENCE cant have that much of a financial support already, thats simply impossible. Whats an avarage salary in finland, like the normal working class without those rich motherfuckers? i guess they wont get more then a normal salary, nothing special... And how the fuck are they able to provide this? there are no sponsors just yet...
2016-01-04 16:19
#197
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India Gandhii4 
they have sponsors already
2016-01-04 16:20
i just visited their homepage, nothing listed... and why would a sponsor allow them to go fulltime? oh wait allu is in there probably thats why...
2016-01-04 16:21
#244
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India Gandhii4 
Jimm's computers, SteelSeries and some others. I don't remember where I saw the list. And it's basically whole Finnish scene coming together. Maybe that is why they get sponsors to pay the bills. Remember they have organizer of Assembly lan party, natu, lurppis etc etc. to raise money.
2016-01-04 16:43
well its not like im questoning it, i hope there will be a topteam from finland once...
2016-01-04 16:44
lurppis are borrowing some money from jp morgan
2016-01-04 17:06
Well I don't think they can provide as good monthly salary as you'd get working, but CS is a lot about price and sticker money, and I am very certain this lineup will get to majors.
2016-01-04 17:18
I guess the average salary after taxes would be something from 2.2K to 2.8k without those over educated people, but if these players gets f.e. even 1.5K after taxes per month they can manage living pretty well.
2016-01-05 12:06
HYPE! GL!
2016-01-04 16:19
top6 inc
2016-01-04 16:19
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL ALLU <3
2016-01-04 16:20
-allu +joelz if they want to have any chance of breaking into tier 3
2016-01-04 16:20
nice maybe with allu they can make it out the group stage of the uk I-series lan HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH STILL NO NEWS POST YOU STUPID BIAS GIRAFFE
2016-01-04 16:22
:-D nice flag
2016-01-04 17:39
nice, gl hf in the future!!
2016-01-04 16:22
#213
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Estonia swag420weed 
Now get joelz to carry online matches
2016-01-04 16:26
#218
NiKo | 
France motion:  
will jOELZ stand in @ online matches? :D
2016-01-04 16:28
gl to this guys, hope they can achieve good things!
2016-01-04 16:28
#225
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Belarus ALBiNh0 
hope they'll make some damage and suddenly appear to be a tier 1 team
2016-01-04 16:31
GL!
2016-01-04 16:31
gl guys
2016-01-04 16:33
#230
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Estonia jossd 
gl Soome
2016-01-04 16:34
GOD\BOT allu incoming, tnx u
2016-01-04 16:35
#232
lueg | 
Czech Republic Lueg 
where is natu? rip
2016-01-04 16:36
If you can read you know where he is.
2016-01-04 17:05
Xarte.ddd crying about cheating in CLANVASE -D
2016-01-04 16:37
#238
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Argentina YH!one 
Gl guys
2016-01-04 16:39
lurppis aka Piers Morgan talking from Experience
2016-01-04 16:39
Ence>nip
2016-01-04 16:41
Tier 2>Ence
2016-01-04 16:51
tier 99>argentina )))
2016-01-04 17:32
mad?
2016-01-04 17:37
No, because you're wrong
2016-01-04 17:55
bot allu
2016-01-04 16:41
Finally Finland get tier3 team :)
2016-01-04 16:45
#248
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Germany Chris Walker 
Nice good luck!
2016-01-04 16:45
ence t2 confirmed, trust me. juho is a really sick aimers as also sunny, stonde is a great awper and with allu they can work for some nice 2 awp set ups, also xarte as lot of experience as also stonde and allu. i can really see this team making progress
2016-01-04 16:46
GL! :)
2016-01-04 16:52
Top 500 ez
2016-01-04 16:52
-juho +joelz
2016-01-04 16:52
Yeaaaaah finally, -xarte +joelz but anyway. Strong T2 team, probably normal t1, not strong like fnatic,envy etc but still can win liquid,Hellraisers etc
2016-01-04 16:53
gl
2016-01-04 16:53
Does lurrpis support all of Finland's talent or just Allu I wonder.
2016-01-04 16:54
#276
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Lithuania disesion 
Any finnish can tell me what nasu and aslak are doing and why they aren't in this lineup?
2016-01-04 16:54
nasu is really bad. aslak is propably not even playing the game anymore.
2016-01-04 17:01
#295
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Lithuania disesion 
what about other old guys: jigetus, khrn?
2016-01-04 17:04
Dunno about khrn, but I dont think jigetus has even played after 1.6 :D
2016-01-04 17:19
#449
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Finland kappaboi 
he has played and even streamed, but just for fun.. nothing serious
2016-01-04 20:04
ok
2016-01-04 20:30
naSu: studying aslak: playing Dota KHRN: no idea jigetus: simply retired
2016-01-04 17:26
gl winland
2016-01-04 16:57
#283
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Ukraine aLxDDSTROYER 
aslak would be better for them
2016-01-04 16:57
#328
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Finland Jiksu 
He's done with CS tho.
2016-01-04 17:29
#284
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Lithuania Afgan` 
Expected.
2016-01-04 16:57
Where is KHRN? retired?
2016-01-04 16:57
khrn said some time ago that he'll probably continue playing in 2016. not retired)
2016-01-04 17:36
Then why the fuck pick Xarte (the most indesicive finnish csplayer) over him? Could be he is not ready to return though, bbut IMO KRHN > xarte. Dreamlineup for me would be disturbed, sunny, stonde, allu, KHRN.
2016-01-04 21:56
#288
Snax | 
Poland Mval 
Where the fuck is disturbed ?
2016-01-04 17:00
he's retired
2016-01-04 17:35
#477
Snax | 
Poland Mval 
unfortunately :( i enjoyed his plays
2016-01-04 21:18
Xd
2016-01-04 17:05
#298
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Germany Rexidexi 
Ez T1 Team
2016-01-04 17:06
#302
FalleN | 
Finland Hattu 
GL
2016-01-04 17:09
#308
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Brazil HunterSk 
Rip allu
2016-01-04 17:14
good luck allu & co.
2016-01-04 17:15
#311
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Finland AxaFin 
WINLAND FUTURE TYRE 1????
2016-01-04 17:16
+1
2016-01-04 17:18
Finally they are able to train like a real professional team. I'm not expecting too much, but I'm hopeful.
2016-01-04 17:20
So allu chose this over Liquid? Is he like done with his CS career?
2016-01-04 17:21
allu is isämmaallinen
2016-01-04 17:35
#456
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Finland Jonzu95 
+1
2016-01-04 20:12
I think hes gf is studuying in finland and dosent want to move usa.
2016-01-05 08:48
Winland back in tier 1 again, yeeey! <3
2016-01-04 17:22
-juho +joelz top 1 major ez
2016-01-04 17:26
Joelz isn't even the same tier.
2016-01-04 18:15
I think in future they will become pretty good (top 10-15), GL finland bois.
2016-01-04 17:27
glad allu didnt waste time with shitty NA teams
2016-01-04 17:31
gl
2016-01-04 17:33
I give them 6 months until they disband. Finnish CS is a joke except for allu who just should've joined Liquid or something.
2016-01-04 17:37
finnish cs has been a joke for ever, but this is first time the players go full time and leave their jobs, no?
2016-01-05 12:09
#567
suNny | 
Finland m1skaa 
yes
2016-01-05 14:28
Goes to same thrash category as F3, mouz, HR, SK, Titan (and ChokeMid:DD). Never achieve anything and lose in the big games. Hope they prove me wrong.
2016-01-04 17:41
good luck!
2016-01-04 17:42
Minecraft <3
2016-01-04 17:47
Minced Natu
2016-01-04 17:47
allu deserve better imo. We will see.
2016-01-04 17:49
gg
2016-01-04 17:50
Allu tier 2 player everyone else in that team are tier 6/7
2016-01-04 17:52
every player are like t1 there nice teams argentina
2016-01-04 17:55
no ruuit no party no aslak no party jokes aside, hopefully finland will achieve something in CSGO with this lineup
2016-01-04 17:55
Maybe top 20 thats it
2016-01-04 18:02
#374
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Iceland fatboislim 
well they went full pro now. No more cs for hobby. so who knows...
2016-01-04 18:07
You are wrong. :) And you will realize it soon. :)
2016-01-04 18:33
#381
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Portugal dracø 
god joelz plz remove someone from this team and carry hard
2016-01-04 18:15
Ouh YES ! Finally we had real team in Finland. Potential tier 2-1 team :)
2016-01-04 18:22
#390
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CIS sergioff 
EZ 4 xART
2016-01-04 18:26
Great team!!
2016-01-04 18:30
#406
steel | 
Belarus Ruble 
So they use stand-in jOELZ in qualifiers in order to get to the lan and then they get raped. The best tactic in 2016!!!
2016-01-04 18:39
welcome back to tier3 allu!
2016-01-04 18:41
expected patronum
2016-01-04 18:59
good luck
2016-01-04 19:02
GL. Hopefully they can get to a major.
2016-01-04 19:03
#426
k0nfig | 
Hungary kruam 
until allu gets invite from normal team
2016-01-04 19:20
pretty much ex 3dmax.. dont see them ending with high results right here with this line-up. will prolly get roflstomped by tier 2/3 teams just wait and watch it
2016-01-04 19:28
This team is playing fulltime and getting salary unlike 3dmax. I have high hopes for this team
2016-01-04 21:17
I'm wishfing them the best of luck too, don't get me wrong. It's just that i don't see them coming far with this lineup. But time will tell tho :)
2016-01-04 21:27
#496
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Other TapioKuusela 
They got into majors with less skillful lineup playing half time and now u dont see them going far when playing full time?
2016-01-04 22:24
They never passed the groupstages tho.
2016-01-04 22:35
#503
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Other TapioKuusela 
So what? The point is they could do it now
2016-01-04 23:33
Like i said already i have nothing against them and i wish them the best of luck with this new lineup :), i was just expressing my thought
2016-01-04 23:38
#507
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Other TapioKuusela 
I know you dont have anything against them. Your thougt just dont have any logic nor argument, do you understand?
2016-01-04 23:49
The fact here is once again that they never passed groupstages before with their old 3dmax lineup wich was almost similar. You are talking about "possible" chances.. Stay delusional please bye.
2016-01-05 02:39
they managed to get it to the major with a lot worse team with a lot less practice compared what this team will have. after hard work the results will be there, different thing how much time it takes.
2016-01-05 14:50
#578
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Other TapioKuusela 
full time vs half time gaming, u dont see any difference?
2016-01-06 19:02
Big difference here is that all of the guys playing quit their jobs and they will have more support. There will be two guys from Finnish LAN scene backing up these guys and providing support.
2016-01-04 19:38
And I am not talking about natu and lurppis here.
2016-01-04 19:53
#513
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Other TapioKuusela 
two guys from finnish lan scene doesnt sound that impressive really :D
2016-01-05 00:04
Well, they are kinda oldskool guys in demoscene and they after all do throw one of the biggest LAN events in the Nordic region (Assembly). I mean, they have contacts, they can help with getting team stable economicaly and so forth. This is first team in Finland to have actual support, but I am not sure if it is even near to Finnish mean salary.
2016-01-05 09:28
-stonde +reflex
2016-01-04 20:10
Bigest joke 2016
2016-01-05 08:50
gl boys
2016-01-04 20:18
thanks
2016-01-04 21:23
If they pracc hard enough, they most certainly can do it. GL guys, make us proud since none of us others can atm.
2016-01-04 20:20
#467
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
Really decent team, good luck to the guys!
2016-01-04 20:46
This team looks really nice. It will be great fun to watch!
2016-01-04 20:55
WTF where i JOELZ ?
2016-01-04 21:06
Hauki
2016-01-04 21:10
Top10 in 2016. Top5 in 2017. Good luck!
2016-01-04 21:19
"Finland has never had a CS team with proper backing before, so I am very excited to be a part of ENCE. With allu starring in the team, we know with hard work ENCE can bring Finland back to contention for titles, which is what Counter-Strike is all about." no... no it cant. have about as good of a shot at winning a title as na does, and thats about a zero percent chance.
2016-01-04 21:56
#511
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Other TapioKuusela 
What a fucking visionary we have here
2016-01-05 00:03
#492
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
allu rekt himself, gg
2016-01-04 22:09
#493
gas | 
Portugal AllJews 
-Stonde +Saw/STOVVE
2016-01-04 22:12
#495
 | 
Other TapioKuusela 
Why -stonde? :D
2016-01-04 22:20
#526
gas | 
Portugal AllJews 
Because he is decent with the awp but sucks with riffles, and allu is going to take the main awper role (guess), and obviously they cant play double awp all the time.
2016-01-05 01:16
"Decent". Stonde is better awper than allu. Allu is better overall.
2016-01-05 07:14
#562
gas | 
Portugal AllJews 
Yeah tbh he is better than "decent" but the main reason is because allu is most likely taking the main awp role. Still allu >stonde with the awp imo.
2016-01-05 13:22
#494
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Other TapioKuusela 
Great news for finns! Only bad thing i see is high expectations + finnish nature combo
2016-01-04 22:18
Feel bad for allu to carry 4 bots.. but yeah.. his decision so lets see. I cant say they will be top 10 but at least top 11-15. Best of luck, allu.
2016-01-04 22:53
PERKELE, VITU JEES!
2016-01-04 22:54
Ayyyy see juho post here sometimes.
2016-01-04 23:23
not this juho kient is he gona play properly every lan he goes to its just for fun are u gona actly put finland back on the map
2016-01-05 00:14
w0w who cares, if they're lucky they can beat e-frag sometimes
2016-01-05 00:16
ruski?
2016-01-05 00:18
Sir, you must me retarded, if you are saying, that this team will be better than NiP. NiP isn't good right know, but they aren't bad neither. TOP4/8 at majors, many second places. They're still capable of beating many good teams like EnVy, Fnatic or TQM. Even if they will be worse with pyth, even if they will be at let's say mousesports/dignitas level. They will still be better than them.
2016-01-05 00:20
ayyy guess who carried them to second places (allu) and now f0rest and gtr will play with 3 bots ayyyy this team will destroy nip
2016-01-05 02:35
*either
2016-01-05 07:12
Allu could 1vNiP ez pz
2016-01-05 08:46
-juho +waylander -stonde +disturbed
2016-01-05 00:22
waylander speaks rusky
2016-01-05 02:33
#524
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Poland Roni445 
Ence pence w ktorej rece?
2016-01-05 00:59
im sorry but this is a tier 3 team with 0 potential to be even a top 15
2016-01-05 01:09
#527
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Australia RaginStarZ 
+natu coach?
2016-01-05 02:21
Why don't you people ever read the fucking article?
2016-01-05 09:05
#552
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Australia RaginStarZ 
at no point in the article they stated that he would be a coach. if you fucking read it, all they said was that he would be in a managerial roles
2016-01-05 11:56
Then why in the fuck would you ask "+natu coach"? This is like talking to a fucking toilet. You clearly did not read it E:typ0eded
2016-01-05 11:59
+1
2016-01-05 18:21
I really want to see this team play against NiP and beat them
2016-01-05 03:30
#576
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Faroe Islands deuzzz 
i really want to get those ENCE stickers
2016-01-05 20:25
#538
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Finland coswell 
Would be nice to see them succeed, but its a long shot..
2016-01-05 07:26
Where is disturbed? :(
2016-01-05 09:01
he retired i think
2016-01-05 16:01
Gl tonnit
2016-01-05 09:04
Very good thing for Finnish eSports. Hopefully ENCE as an organization and the players will understand that they will probably lack stability and underperform in 2016. This is necessary for the “professional growth” of the team which will eventually lead to success. GL boys!
2016-01-05 09:18
+1
2016-01-05 11:19
Rooobe
2016-01-05 12:12
GL Juho mate <3 Also very nice to see ENCE back, only heard good things about the org from when I was at Assembly. I hope the team will do well and that Finland will have another major team. Not forgetting RCTIC that's also putting a lot more time into CS:GO for 2016. So interesting year for Finnish CS next year :)
2016-01-05 11:49
fucking natu lost to myRevenge D':
2016-01-05 17:22
They have the potential to be really good, and I'm not saying that because I'm Finnish, but because they actually do, regardless of what the 17-year old angsty trolls seem to think. But like all Finnish teams in the history of this game, and all the previous versions as well, they'll likely switch a couple of members a couple months in, then a couple more later on, and finally, disband half a year in. That's how it's been since the dawn of time, with quite literally every single Finnish CS-team that's had some potential. I wish that'll not be the case this time around, but history tends to repeat itself.
2016-01-05 12:06
ofcourse you end up switching players cause you can tell from the start it ain't working. the player rally is pretty much always result of bad results. the thing is, it is just very unlikely a proper backin will make a huge impact, i haven't witnessed it to happen in cs. it's a talent based game, you will need the most talented players to succeed. does this team have what it takes? well, can't say excactly they have extraordinary talent too much but gladly to see them to prove everybody wrong.
2016-01-05 17:42
Finns. Where is aslak? Always considered him the top player of Finland.
2016-01-05 19:53
nice, gl
2016-01-05 13:51
-anyone +jOELZ
2016-01-05 14:44
#573
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Finland EdiEz 
Good Luck
2016-01-05 18:10
CHANGE ALL ADD 69N28E
2016-01-06 01:43
very very exciting times we are about to witness!!
2016-01-11 21:42
RIP ENCE
2016-03-21 19:49
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