? create own organization *

Striker
January 19th, 2016 09:07

Team Question Mark, who were without an organization for over a month, decided to create an organization called Astralis, supported by a couple of investors, Sunstone Capital and Tommy Ahlers.

Ever since early December 2015, the Danish team were without an organization following their departure from TSM, whom they represented for a year.

Since then rumours have been spreading about their new organization, which included names such as FaZe Clan and Alliance, although it turns out they are going in a different direction entirely.


Question Mark become Astralis

The team, together with their agent Frederik Byskov, decided to build a new organization called Astralis, which has received funding from a couple of investors: Sunstone Capital and Tommy Ahlers.

Main ownership will be in the hands of Jakob Lund Kristensen and Frederik Byskov, with the players and investors holding an unspecified percentage of shares.

All involved set a goal for themselves to create an organization without putting a strain on the players by setting worrying or exhausting terms in the deal, which will also be transparent; the players will be free to discuss all monetary transactions, if they so choose.

"When we first heard about this project, we all thought it was an extraordinary chance to make our own mark in esports. We chose this offer over countless others, including far more profitable in the short term, because we believe in building something that will have a lasting impression on the game we love." Finn "karrigan" Andersen said in a statement on the team's new website.

Astralis boast the following lineup:

Denmark Nicolai "device" Reedtz
Denmark René "cajunb" Borg
Denmark Andreas "Xyp9x" Højsleth
Denmark Finn "karrigan" Andersen
Denmark Peter "dupreeh" Rasmussen

Denmark Danny "zonic" Sørensen (coach)

The team's debut under the new name will be in just a few days, as they will be battling dignitas in group B of DreamHack ZOWIE Open Leipzig on January 22nd.

* UPDATE: HLTV.org has learned that Frederik Byskov and Jakob Lund Kristensen are the main owners, in fact, not Sunstone Capital and Tommy Ahlers.

Denmark Danny 'zonic' Sørensen
Danny 'zonic' Sørensen
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.75
Maps played:
20
KPR:
0.49
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.11
Denmark René 'cajunb' Borg
René 'cajunb' Borg
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1286
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Denmark Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Peter 'dupreeh' Rasmussen
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
1358
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.14
Denmark Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Nicolai 'device' Reedtz
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.17
Maps played:
1238
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Denmark Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Andreas 'Xyp9x' Højsleth
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
1415
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.17
Denmark Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Finn 'karrigan' Andersen
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
1370
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
new name, no choke on lans kappa
2016-01-19 09:08
EXPECTED from Nobody
2016-01-19 09:09
Why even care about org or team name
2016-01-19 09:13
Because this its ffing huuuuuuuuuge m8. Astralis Astralis Astralis Astralis Astralis ALL DA FUCKING WAY m8!
2016-01-19 09:16
They will still never win a major with players like cajunb and xyp9x
2016-01-19 09:28
Danish players who are better than them? Aizy? He's locked in contract, which is expensive as fuck. Who else? Pimp? Rofl! I could see magiskb0y, but he got no experience. Often jeg see xyp9x outfragging playerts like device, dupreeh, and Cajun is so consistent, deal with the fact that they could win because they are amazing. They just need the finishing touch :)
2016-01-19 09:31
#195
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Cajun and consistent don't go together m8.
2016-01-19 10:29
B does.
2016-01-19 13:23
Lmao they're lacking major events for a long time now. There's a reason why they are known as chokers
2016-01-19 11:38
#306
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United States CarbonDogma 
and it's not because they have bad players
2016-01-19 12:38
#456
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Europe _jUNGLE 
why then? professional CS player who can't hold down his heart rate and prevent his hands from shaking in the 3rd map of the big tournament semifinal(final) is nutting else but bad call it as U wish, emotionally unstable, nervous, worried, they are bad at ending the LAN's and they will never win a major in their current state of mind and physicality
2016-01-19 18:01
#480
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United States CarbonDogma 
Choking at LANS does not mean the player is not skilled at the game. The context of the discussion (on CajunB and Xyp9x) is on skill. If you payed attention to the scene for at least 4 or 5 months, it would be clear that Cajun and Xyp are not lacking in the skill department. Jolly is making the argument that the reason they choke is because Cajun and Xyp are bad players skill-wise, which is factually not true.
2016-01-20 00:39
Depends on your definition of skilled, I deem it skilled when a player's not only able to play the game but also manage his emotions, and unskilled when a player is lacking in one or both of those departments.
2016-01-20 05:17
Just change cajun on magiskboy or k0nfig and then they will be able to win something.
2016-01-19 13:00
"Often jeg see" lol This is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
2016-01-19 15:17
Nt flusha
2016-01-19 15:25
Well shit, my fingers are too fast :(
2016-01-20 15:58
"Often jeg see xyp9x outfragging playerts like device, dupreeh, and Cajun is so consistent" "JEG" n1 google translate
2016-01-20 07:22
#500
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Denmark vexity 
He probably just brain farted. Pretty sure google translate knows what "jeg" means.
2016-01-20 19:11
why? they are both great players, better than a lot other non-star players on the top teams, especially xyp9x
2016-01-19 10:26
Yes of course, xyp9x is amazing with 0.95 rating in 2015
2016-01-19 12:46
Rating doesn't say shit my friend :) But you're one of these russians in mm that flames other ppl for not having enough frags. Some players are stepping up in important games, and not to mention entry fraggers that doesn't do 30 bombs but simply take that single entry to a site and his job is done.
2016-01-19 12:50
Sure starts don't tell the whole story, and Xypn9x is an amazing support player, but he's not an entryfragger, so this has nothing to do with his statement.
2016-01-19 13:42
I never said that he's an entryfragger, it was a relevant example. A support player ain't a madfragger either.
2016-01-19 22:06
True, but an example for support players would be way more relevant^.
2016-01-20 12:09
Xyp9x doesn't entry frag. And btw I said xyp9x is amazing player :) best player in the world
2016-01-19 16:27
I never said that he's an entryfragger, it was a relevant example. A support player ain't a madfragger either.
2016-01-19 22:07
Yes I agree xyp9x is soooo good
2016-01-20 09:17
remember his post till the end of 2016 to post it on reddit when they win a major
2016-01-19 11:24
You saying that they wont win a major with players like Xyp9x just shows how new and how little you actually know about CS..
2016-01-19 14:37
Yes I just realised that xyp9x is the best player in the world with 0.95 rating in 2015. Thanks
2016-01-19 16:32
That's it. I am fully convinced that you're new to CS. When did you start to play/watch CS? Cluj major? I are think that.
2016-01-19 16:37
Why? I agree with you now
2016-01-20 09:19
Do you know what the rating is based on?
2016-01-20 15:03
Kills, deaths, rounds with multiple kills and maybe entry kills. Forgot
2016-01-20 16:10
you right about xypn9x but cajunb is godly.
2016-01-19 19:23
Why even care about org? Because it is the org paying your salary after all, so unless you don't care about being paid or how much you're paid, sure then it doesn't matter, but most ppl does.
2016-01-19 12:47
#340
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United States snack- 
Some Orgs have a good management and good logo for people that like to buy their products. They also might have teams in other games people don't like. I personally root for some Orgs and others I don't like like c9 and tsm because of their other teams
2016-01-19 13:29
I meant why we should care
2016-01-19 16:32
How nobody pick them
2016-01-19 09:13
They didn't want to join orgs who approached them ie. Optic.
2016-01-19 09:22
How nobody reads? "When we first heard about this project, we all thought it was an extraordinary chance to make our own mark in esports. We chose this offer over countless others, including far more profitable in the short term, because we believe in building something that will have a lasting impression on the game we love."
2016-01-19 09:27
-karrigan +aizy damn
2016-01-21 14:09
#48
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Denmark AnchorCS 
nyheder.tv2.dk/business/2016-01-19-milli.. Invenstors helping them out :3 Sry for replying to first comment, no #attientionwhore
2016-01-19 09:14
short translate pls
2016-01-19 09:21
Danish IT-Millionaires are investing in this with the purpose of making a global contending organization. Rest of article is just about CS scenes growth
2016-01-19 09:26
#93
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Denmark fujiYEEZY 
Millions are being invested into Danish computerstars. Some big cheeses are putting money into these guys as sponsors and investors, and that is pretty much it. Edit: not much is really being told about the sponsors etc. The majority of the article is just about the e-sports scene and the teams history.
2016-01-19 09:27
thanks for posting this the title of this HLTV post is very misleading (to refer to this as 'player owned'). "The investment fund Sunstone Capital and IT millionaire, Tommy Ahlers, invest millions in new Danish e-sports adventure. Astralis Ltd. will mainly be owned by investors Tommy Ahlers and Sunstone Capital as well as by Frederik Byskov and Jacob Lund Kristensen, who will be responsible for the daily operations of the company."
2016-01-19 09:27
#201
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Denmark PHedemark 
It's co-owned by the players.
2016-01-19 10:32
maybe it is just me but where it says 'player-owned' in the subtitle of this article seems to imply it is owned solely by the players, which is why i said it was misleading
2016-01-19 10:47
#222
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Denmark PHedemark 
Ah, gotcha. Yeah I don't know why they lead with that subtitle.
2016-01-19 10:49
>more than 100 million viewers watch every month Citation needed
2016-01-19 09:30
I was thinking the same... the player base was 8 million in start 2015 and 10-11 million in late-2015, but they also say they expect a player base of 145 million people by 2017.
2016-01-20 15:14
Maybe they count every viewer of every match and not unique ips
2016-01-20 16:12
#244
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France Ospreyy 
Nice CoD4 images in the reportage btw XDD
2016-01-19 11:12
#377
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Germany Wondershave 
lol that COD4 footage tho (probably had some context but I dont know danish for sht)
2016-01-19 14:49
Chokelis
2016-01-19 09:19
Chokeallis
2016-01-19 09:45
ugly logo:(
2016-01-19 09:26
This logo looks like some sort of a communist symbol imo.
2016-01-19 16:29
#118
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
astranglis is probably the best pun you could come up with
2016-01-19 09:32
WHY NOT " MTW " ! whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
2016-01-19 10:27
#291
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Norway kjaer 
Because it an german e-sport org, that cant just be bought?!
2016-01-19 12:14
Good on them! They're taking matters in their own hands and I doubt they'll do worse than so called established orgs :)
2016-01-19 11:10
#408
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Brazil seltinn1 
chokelis
2016-01-19 16:10
#2
 | 
Australia tehN 
best team eu confirmed
2016-01-19 09:08
#31
 | 
Canada reizel 
Still not better than Renegades
2016-01-19 09:11
+1
2016-01-19 09:15
#145
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
nawhh :333
2016-01-19 09:46
Havoc best beard. That's about it really...
2016-01-19 11:11
#284
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Bangladesh Evil_Potato 
You are so evil japan, just like me
2016-01-19 11:59
#292
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Canada reizel 
I am good bangladesh, m8
2016-01-19 12:14
#163
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
This will not work out!
2016-01-19 10:00
y not?
2016-01-19 11:11
#251
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Europe HLTVs Hero 
Travel expenses. ;) They will not like the fact that they will be paying for their traveling expenses themselves when alot of LAN tournies takes place.
2016-01-19 11:20
1st of all, i took their winnings of 2015 combined with a monthly salary of tsm (i took 4k$ each) and sticker/signature/streaming money and came to a number around 18k$ each (per month).. They earn that amount through out 2015 each month.. Maybe after taxes around 12k$ a month... Besides this they have ahlers and this other company (rich mofos) as investors.. They wont pay anything themselfs and will get a good salary aswell ;) read first before writing a comment
2016-01-19 11:34
You don't think they've thought about this when big orgs actually approached them with offers? In the long run they will make A LOT more. A LOT!
2016-01-19 12:09
#297
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Canada reizel 
A brain. Do you have it, motherfucker?
2016-01-19 12:18
gg
2016-01-19 09:08
Expeccted
2016-01-19 09:08
#5
Estonia rYm 
lal
2016-01-19 09:08
Amazing!
2016-01-19 09:08
fuck
2016-01-19 09:08
#9
Poland AEWAR 
lol
2016-01-19 09:08
Unexpected
2016-01-19 09:08
Stole my news rip
2016-01-19 09:08
wut
2016-01-19 09:09
noice, I guess
2016-01-19 09:09
RIP no FaZe clan :/
2016-01-19 09:09
#209
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Germany Raverlele 
Faze is doing some shit with Youtubers :D
2016-01-19 10:40
#492
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Uruguay martin1592 
Nah, Faze got G2's team so they're fine.
2016-01-20 10:44
Like TSM did in the LOL scene, nice
2016-01-19 09:09
So fucking expected
2016-01-19 09:09
money inc
2016-01-19 09:09
lmao, rip eg dream
2016-01-19 09:09
OMFG YES!
2016-01-19 09:09
#21
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Denmark Ztereo 
For all danes or people who can read Danish: nyheder.tv2.dk/business/2016-01-19-milli.. - Good luck fellas!
2016-01-19 09:10
E Z P Z for Malmö Swede, huehue
2016-01-19 09:15
or for people who can use google translate :p
2016-01-19 09:29
lmao why are they showing h2k playing cod4 promod, it makes me sad :/
2016-01-19 16:17
#464
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Denmark Ztereo 
Agree mah friend!
2016-01-19 19:09
25 mill in revenue holy shet!
2016-01-19 17:28
#22
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Brazil wdks 
TQM > TSM
2016-01-19 09:10
GL Astralis
2016-01-19 09:10
There used to be an old school Finnish team with the same name featuring contE, plastE, ruuit etc. Are these newbies even aware of that? Thieves.
2016-01-19 09:10
#39
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France Kairos1g 
eestralis dude, eestralis
2016-01-19 09:13
that was an "inside joke" mixed with astralis :D astralis is old finnish team.
2016-01-19 09:17
Freon still alive. :D
2016-01-19 10:06
yay =D
2016-01-19 10:17
emozzle ;D
2016-01-19 13:34
#453
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France Kairos1g 
pls make a comeback dude, bring jigetus with you
2016-01-19 17:52
instantly thought the same. youtube.com/watch?v=g9-pikLfdsI
2016-01-19 09:14
Yeah they bought the name etc.
2016-01-19 09:16
source? or u bein sarcastic?
2016-01-19 09:21
Reddit thread. Some verified guy who break the news(assuming he is in this organisation anyway) said it. Somebody else also noted that this is old Finnish 1.6 team.
2016-01-19 09:24
Yeah I remember Astralis from 1.6. but TQM really had to pay tocget the name? xd or was it more like a gesture to prevent the drama?
2016-01-19 09:28
no idea, i guess they paid something. I doubt it was huge amount tho. Litreally went for dead org name so.. and i think the owners of that name would be more than happy to give it to Tier1 team. To keep the ''legacy alive'' :D.
2016-01-19 09:32
It was pretty much a gesture (dont think they paid that much), but a very cool one. To prevent drama as you say
2016-01-19 12:13
more like a gesture yeah they said they couldve gotten it either way
2016-01-19 12:17
#68
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
+1 this
2016-01-19 09:18
According to their tweets they are well aware of this. Those Finns are legends :)
2016-01-19 09:19
Actually they are not thieves since they bought the rights to the name. :D
2016-01-19 10:05
Immediately popped into my mind. (BloodR, Guardian, Tihop, kuvick & dooberi was the lineup I remember personally).
2016-01-19 11:14
.ö-m,
2016-01-19 11:56
#273
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Lithuania disesion 
yup, my thoughts
2016-01-19 11:52
Actually they contacted the finns and bought them name before announcing anything. Remember zonic and KarrigaN are not newbies. Very cool move imo
2016-01-19 12:11
Frederik, zonic, cajunb and karrigaN were all playing at that time, so they were most likely aware of it.
2016-01-19 16:21
Logo? For dem stickers :P
2016-01-19 09:11
#264
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Estonia swag420weed 
Another red logo, pure shit
2016-01-19 11:29
#282
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
That looks terrible...
2016-01-19 11:59
That is weird. Basically it's a team with NO org at all? Or what makes,the,difference between org and a team? good for the players I guess... 100% tournament winnings&stickermoneys for themselves.
2016-01-19 09:11
Its a ORG. They own the org. Or some pieces of the org.
2016-01-19 09:34
If its owned by the players how does it differ from being a team? It basically is a team with sponsors, twitter and a website :D
2016-01-19 11:53
It's basically co-owned by the players, together with management, funds and investors if I get it correct.
2016-01-19 12:14
You get 100% anywhere.. TSM, fnatic, envyus all get 100% sticket/winnings.. Maybe navi doesnt as they still have an old contract? As much as i am aware teams had to give a part of these earnings to the orgs, but it changed and there might be some teams that still have this clause in their contracts but they wont sign a new one without 100% earnings for sure.. Basicly no difference except the teams in a org get a monthly salary no matter how high the prizemoney / stickermoney was.. Therefor you need to have a certain amount of streaming hours and advertise the sponsors.. EDIT: ex tsm is playing as astralis now which is a new org and they are co-owners. Means, they dont have their annoying streaming clauses in contracts cuz they own that shit and make their own rules.. They have investors tho, so they will get a salary paied by the investors
2016-01-19 11:45
So why would investors invest in a org which will not earn any money (no prizemoney earnings, no stickers, no streams to support sponsors to have bigger value for sponsors which will eventually bring in more money...)?
2016-01-19 11:56
Well they will have some kind of benefit i guess.. Esports is a big business nowadays, i think we cant imagine how much money goes around month after month
2016-01-19 11:58
top b8
2016-01-19 14:28
EDIT: ex tsm is playing as astralis now which is a new org and they are co-owners. Means, they dont have their annoying streaming clauses in contracts cuz they own that shit and make their own rules.. They have investors tho, so they will get a salary paied by the investors That really depends on what the investors expect, what they agreed on and what is written into their contracts. Also you're wrong when you say that everyone gets 100 % of anything, that is simply not true.
2016-01-19 16:31
Rip Team Secret Dream
2016-01-19 09:11
This should have been done before, taz said it was their greatest regret that they didn't have their own org. goodluck
2016-01-19 09:11
Don't worry Taz and the boys will join Astralis in a partnership deal :D You heard it here first
2016-01-19 12:16
Why would they do that, if they wanted they can get their own org, plus.. most of them are past their prime and virtus pro just got a $100m investment they can spend as much as they want on the csgo team and make it worth it for them to stay on the team.
2016-01-19 13:26
It was clearly a joke
2016-01-19 13:40
So money ?
2016-01-19 09:11
#32
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World EarthFlag 
Please make a fucking good logo and then disband for ez money in my wallet
2016-01-19 09:12
eestralis wannabe
2016-01-19 09:12
FIRST
2016-01-19 09:12
#35
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Estonia ATSO 
and thats the "next org hype" pffft my ass
2016-01-19 09:12
ayyy
2016-01-19 09:12
#37
GuardiaN | 
Sweden kvNr 
thier logo will be a picture of device having hands choking his throat.
2016-01-19 09:12
#38
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Belarus Starvoid 
Rip
2016-01-19 09:12
nice logo
2016-01-19 09:13
rip ? sticker
2016-01-19 09:13
expected af
2016-01-19 09:13
#45
Sweden st^^ 
tihOp and bloodR comeback? Nice
2016-01-19 09:13
wat
2016-01-19 09:15
#63
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
new fag
2016-01-19 09:17
lol dont give a fuck about low cs 1.6 finnish scene
2016-01-19 09:18
so where am I wrong? I know spikeone and jigetus but tihop and bloodr..
2016-01-19 09:31
#116
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
nice edit, "i dont care about some cod players" :DDDDD
2016-01-19 09:31
Tihop and BloodR are two of the best 10 finnish players of all time, Spikeone and jigetus ain't.
2016-01-19 16:34
what are you saying??? spikeone is one of the best fin players all time youtube.com/watch?v=FZN3I4et994 dont talk shit about him if you dont know him....
2016-01-21 05:42
I do know him, but there are players ahead of him. zet0r, Neutron, Fukush, diGitaL, myssE, natu, tihop, BloodR, PlastE, contE, ruuit, naSu, biggs, Tico, Guardian, vfak. You only talk shit because you know him and not all the rest. You might try and understand that a finnish team was once considered the best in the world. Most of these players played when the scene was bigger in terms of teams. No doubt Spikeone was a good player and he could be considered top15, but there are many great finnish players during history and you don't know most of them.
2016-01-21 19:00
these guys were actually quite talented but wouldn't expect some 14 year old like you to know or care about that. obviously just some new fag
2016-01-19 09:31
#67
cyx | 
Russia airton 
2016-01-19 09:18
SPIKEONE and jigetus confirmed too
2016-01-19 09:20
bloodR has actually played CSGO some hundred hours. AFAIK he's not going to make comeback tho.
2016-01-19 10:04
Most of the guys from 1.6 era that quit the competitive gaming in 2005-2008 are still playing cs go. Just under different nicknames and just for fun. It wouldn't be totally impossible to maybe see some of them attending a small event at some point, but I dont think anybody is really looking for a "comeback" of any sort.
2016-01-19 11:44
gg
2016-01-19 09:14
Sådan boiis :)
2016-01-19 09:14
Boring tbh.
2016-01-19 09:14
#52
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Russia Reph 
Unexpected
2016-01-19 09:15
#53
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Finland Fherrera 
Astralis lets go
2016-01-19 09:15
astralis lets chokelis in 1/2 or 1/4 as always xd
2016-01-19 09:16
#57
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
astralis? really? gj ruining the name of astralis gaming. how about making new org called VeryGames?
2016-01-19 09:16
yeah jemmis, let's find 3 other players!
2016-01-19 09:40
Ruining? They're a tier 1 team
2016-01-19 09:43
#333
AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD 
astralis = irrelevant unknownS ? = tier 1 team
2016-01-19 13:15
#361
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
nt, atleast they didnt choke in every lan :S
2016-01-19 14:10
nt , atleast they play at lans :S
2016-01-19 15:31
#403
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
okay =)))
2016-01-19 15:49
#61
cyx | 
Russia airton 
WTF!? ASTRALIS IS A FINLAND OLD SCHOOL TEAM!
2016-01-19 09:16
What is this? they're not Astralis Gaming ffs.
2016-01-19 09:17
rip life
2016-01-19 09:19
There gonna be named Astralis or something like that nyheder.tv2.dk/business/2016-01-19-milli.. do the google translate brahs
2016-01-19 09:19
They made a "new" org that has the same name as a famous old org?!... OK then... inb4 throws
2016-01-19 09:18
That name brings back memories :)
2016-01-19 09:18
astralis? not new. Was top finish team
2016-01-19 09:20
kek
2016-01-19 09:20
#225
JW | 
United States theobill1 
Bobo! Tanga! Anong kagagihan yang comment mo? Nonsense ang puta.
2016-01-19 10:50
sure sounds like some good translate program +1
2016-01-19 11:22
#450
JW | 
United States theobill1 
Bobo talaga ang puta. Na typo lang translate program na kaagad. HAHAHA. King ina mong bobo ka! UNINSTALL mo na csgo mo SILVER 4Head
2016-01-19 17:36
ano pinaglalaban mo? )
2016-01-19 18:23
#82
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Australia CKS 
LOL
2016-01-19 09:21
A star is born!
2016-01-19 09:22
#501
United States ev8 
ctrl+f'd this hard
2016-01-20 23:25
#88
EAZY | 
Czech Republic baylife 
n1
2016-01-19 09:23
nice, stolen team name.
2016-01-19 09:24
they bought the rights..
2016-01-19 10:29
good luck to them! stole a great name but jokes on them. the name was cursed anyway :D
2016-01-19 09:25
#180
mir | 
Serbia Krimzynn 
They bought the right for the name.. It's on reddit.
2016-01-19 10:17
yes i'm aware
2016-01-19 10:21
waste of money buying the name, why not just create own?
2016-01-19 09:25
"We had been bouncing names and ideas off the wall about the name, and we really really liked Astralis. Obtaining the rights was simply to do this the right way. We want to do things by the books." Im not sure if money was involved.
2016-01-19 09:55
#198
mir | 
Serbia Krimzynn 
I think it definetely was but the question is : how much?
2016-01-19 10:29
five fiddy
2016-01-19 10:31
Tree fiddy
2016-01-19 13:09
fuk u lok nes
2016-01-19 13:11
it was
2016-01-19 10:43
Any clarifications? "Obtained" is pretty misleading.
2016-01-19 10:44
I dont get the name. Old school finish team. Juuso "contE" Sajakoski Samu "plastE" Aalto Jirka "jigetus" Ryhti Atte "VIDI" Hyvakka Max "ruuit" Aspe
2016-01-19 09:27
they had many lineups. when i think of astralis the first players popping in to my mind are BloodR, tih0p and Gua
2016-01-19 09:30
Yeah BloodR and tih0p I recall.
2016-01-19 09:35
I think (one of the) first iterations were bloodr, tihop, dooberi, guardian and kuvick.
2016-01-19 11:24
#127
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Europe Serjkerrr 
Jugetus every day combat. Oh my lord, nostalgie about 1.6 old school times...
2016-01-19 09:37
2016-01-19 09:40
yeah :D and the frags are not even good in today's standards. but i saw that video when it came out and was blown away by it! as a side note, that inferno just looks better. i wish they'd make csgo inf like that
2016-01-19 09:45
#248
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Denmark PHedemark 
There's a lot of things in this world you don't get mate ;) PS: Beers on you next time we catch up you old mofo!
2016-01-19 11:17
#99
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Finland Wozzw 
Niceee
2016-01-19 09:28
lol
2016-01-19 09:28
blackjack & hookers included?
2016-01-19 09:28
SO LATE HLTV
2016-01-19 09:28
#104
fnx | 
Portugal lovessd 
inb4 canjunb steals all the money to buy a bugatti
2016-01-19 09:29
rip
2016-01-19 09:30
#106
cyx | 
Russia airton 
WHY NOT A TITAN? this label is FREE! MORONS
2016-01-19 09:29
#113
KQLY | 
North America hesh 
so many butthurt drunk finnish people lol
2016-01-19 09:30
#117
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
This is a very bold move of the danes. I pray that it will turn out good for them and they can reap the rewards of their risk. Obviously it's an weakness to have players involved with the ownership, and looking towards fnatic, how they managed to improve with every player change, i can be worried that this might be an impeding factor. With that said, i can understand their motivation and the unique chance they possessed. I respect their decision, i will be there cheering for you guys like always, and i look forward to an hopefully successful 2016 in the name of Astralis! Good luck guys!
2016-01-19 09:31
It is a nice change of pace to come across a coherent logical comment on HLTV :p +1
2016-01-19 09:33
They're not the owners of the team, it is some two other guys but they got aparts in the company, you can read it at nyheder.tv2.dk/business/2016-01-19-milli..
2016-01-19 09:37
#148
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
If the news article from tv2 is correct, then they are indeed owners. You might argue they are not majority stake holders, but it clearly states they are involved with the ownership. "Derudover har de fem spillere på holdet også anparter."
2016-01-19 09:51
You just make it seem like it's only them, calling them the only owners, you know how much there is behind the scene, with website, sponsors etc, that's why players can never be the real owners that's why Tommy and Frederik got anparters in the team. would just call EX-TSM shareholders, not owners.
2016-01-19 09:55
#162
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
No i did not? "players involved with the ownership" You should read before commenting and honestly you don't seem to know much about business either.
2016-01-19 10:00
"Involved with the ownership" you just rekt yourself, dude my granddad made millions of shareholding and you think you can teach me something?
2016-01-19 10:02
#188
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
Makes no sense arguing this, you clearly have no idea of what you are talking about.
2016-01-19 10:21
You clearly have no knowledge* saying the guy that can't difference between idea and knowledge. /Close
2016-01-19 10:24
First of all he never 'made it seem like it's only them...' as you stated earlier. He is clearly referring to the article which says the players are INVOLVED IN THE OWNERSHIP Also, in English, it is completely acceptable for him to say 'you have no idea what you are talking about', in fact hearing this is much more common in conversational English than saying "you clearly have no knowledge of what you are talking about" so actually you're wrong all the way around, nt tho
2016-01-19 10:45
American is not English, and they don't have ownership but shareholds, so please gtfo they havn't given them title as a manager or anything, so please learn your facts before talking
2016-01-19 10:55
At this point you turned to trolling since you obviously realized you said some dumb shit. If however you aren't trolling I suggest visiting a psychiatrist as you might have some mental disorder.
2016-01-19 12:50
U are one dumb mofo! Eod.
2016-01-19 15:23
WTF did I just read. Dude you're dumber than a braindead carrot.
2016-01-19 10:56
Being right = dumb, expected from finnish nazi.
2016-01-19 10:57
No you started the whole argument by stating that BATISTUTA's post makes it seem like the team are the only owners which it clearly does not. Then you try to make a shitty comeback riding on a success of your granddad, like the knowledge is genetic somehow lmao.
2016-01-19 11:15
Riding on my granddad's succes have nothing to do with it, our family talks about shareholds almost everyday we love to buy shareholds from different companies, it have nothing to do with genetic just how my granddad affect me and the males of our family, so please gtfo with that, twisting my tongue and shit, making me sound like steel and i meant they're not involved with the any kinds of ownership what so ever they're just shareholders, depends if they use at least 5% more of their time managing the org, which i've a hard time imagining, no reason to be a brain cancer.
2016-01-19 11:22
millions of shareholding lmao, danish english best english. kamelåså.
2016-01-19 13:13
The article is correct. Frederik Byskov read it for fact-check before it was published. You are right and csgo_dev_Benson is wrong in the interpretation of the words I wrote in the article at tv2.dk.
2016-01-19 14:46
#376
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
Thanks :)
2016-01-19 14:46
Are you involved again, as PR?
2016-01-19 16:48
I work at TV 2 Denmark and wrote the article about the team. I'm not working for the team if that's what you mean :)
2016-01-19 17:51
Ah, finally teamed up with sjippah...
2016-01-19 18:12
Yeah, we worked literally next to each other today in the newsroom and was talking esports quite a bit during the afternoon ;) hehe
2016-01-19 20:14
Hah, thats pretty fortunate, he is cool guy. We used to have a lot of fun playing together.
2016-01-19 20:32
that is true. one good thing about the players owning part of the organization is that even if a player change was needed, it is still in everyone's interest to have the team perform at its best. as its success benefits the owners.
2016-01-19 09:51
Obviously it's an weakness to have players involved with the ownership. Depends on how the roles are defined and I am sure that the players themselves won't be too involved and can focus more on their part of it - playing. People tend to work harder for something they are a part of and can see a more long term benefit from compared to the other way around.
2016-01-19 16:47
#445
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Denmark BATISTUTA9 
I agree, could be worded better. It's more of a risk which could result in a weakness.
2016-01-19 17:05
#119
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Europe Serjkerrr 
I always know Team choke M is stupid. That's why they always choke on majors and never will be tier1.
2016-01-19 09:32
lmao "no one wants us so we gonna create our own organization with blackjack and hookers"
2016-01-19 09:33
#138
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Europe Serjkerrr 
yea, I think so too, no one wants major chockers with $5k salary per player every month with 100% of sticker money and 100% of winning money. Get star-twisted a lot. I remember days when they was dignitas. And they not improved their game a lot actually. Still shitgnitas.
2016-01-19 09:42
lmao you really dont like them do you. u jelly m8?
2016-01-19 09:53
#185
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Europe Serjkerrr 
I just don't like star-twisted shitty players, who think tey are tier 1, but they never will be. Even young LG have much more potential than they. They are not choking, they just can't. They showing their maximum and sucking. They not deserved what they got and it's unfair. I'm working 40 hours per week, 5 days, and earning 4k/month, why I should be jelly about guys who is playing and learning cs like 16 hours per day and have nothing to do out of it in their life? It's sad. Nothing to be jelly about it.
2016-01-19 10:20
How the fuck is a team that placed themselfs in 17 out of 21 offline tournaments in top 4 not worth getting payed fulltime? They won 5 tournaments (with all the topteams attending) placed 5 times 2nd and 7times 3rd-4th only 4 times below #4... With your logic no team besides fnatic deserves a full support... You are just dumb as fuck... Im 100% sure they got very very very good offers from tons of top orgs and thats because they are a top 5 team in the world and they could win any tournament at anytime, they just need to pass that semifinal of a major once and they will probably win the major and the chokes will be gone... You are just low minded and should realy stop writing in topics like this one
2016-01-19 13:15
these kids nowadays don't realize that top teams are all high skilled. for some reason they consider only top 1-3 worth something and fail to realize only one team can win a tournament. all the rest of the top teams place somewhere below that. finishing top 4 is a big deal.
2016-01-19 14:50
#336
AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD 
TSM,TQM,? have won a lot more tournaments than LG ever have.
2016-01-19 13:21
maybe he considerd the brazilian tournaments aswell
2016-01-19 14:55
you sound quite bitter m8, shitty players??? 3 of them are in the top 20 lol? "nothing to do out of it in their life" doesnt even make sense I wouldnt mind travelling the world playing a game i love. What job do you have? You deffo jelly m8 soz just accept it
2016-01-19 16:41
NICE
2016-01-19 09:34
called it
2016-01-19 09:39
#131
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
New org, still the same chokers
2016-01-19 09:39
wow~ nice sticker
2016-01-19 09:39
#134
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India RrOuTe_FoRcE 
'Astralis' sucks. Seems like a 10 y old's science project team tbh. What was wrong with 'Team question mark' ??? TQM made one reminisce of TSM.
2016-01-19 09:40
At least now we won't see a super childlish MOBA oriented name tag in CS matches for now
2016-01-19 09:47
#150
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India RrOuTe_FoRcE 
haha.. true
2016-01-19 09:52
+ Astralis is actually an oldschool Finnish cs organisation and team (2004-2006).
2016-01-19 10:09
Let's hope they can bring the legacy,instead of bashing them "omg me 1.6 1337ist look at me i iz old playa they no good steal astralis name" like some retards does
2016-01-19 14:25
They also played under the astralis name in 08 and 09.
2016-01-19 16:51
08? I only remember 09 when they played under the name Astralis for like 3-4 months.
2016-01-19 20:48
Maybe I remember wrong then, guess they still played under roccat in 08
2016-01-19 21:44
ASSRAILS LOL
2016-01-19 09:41
great move! they invest while they can, and as long as the team stays on the top level they'll profit even from new players for years to come.
2016-01-19 09:44
#142
fer | 
Argentina MAXEE|SDM 
Team Solo Choke is better :c
2016-01-19 09:44
It's really smart actually, if the players own the organisation, they win everything, money stickers, prizes, salaries, all of it since they are owners and employees.
2016-01-19 09:48
They got a 1 million investment from a danish millionnaire. they don't own the org, at least not 100%
2016-01-19 09:55
More like 5%/player
2016-01-19 11:55
a lot of jelly kids up in here gl to them :))
2016-01-19 09:54
gl Astralis ;)
2016-01-19 09:55
Team Rash B in honor of Team Solo Mid.
2016-01-19 09:56
#246
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
But they need to create full russian team to execute rush b tactics
2016-01-19 11:14
Astralis = "Star" in Latin btw
2016-01-19 09:57
they might be chokers but they're smart tbh
2016-01-19 09:57
good luck
2016-01-19 09:57
Nice
2016-01-19 09:58
name thieves :(( but if they bought the name fair and square then sure, no problem. anyhow still reminds me of the 1.6 team tho
2016-01-19 10:00
they bought it, they said it on reddit 30 min ago
2016-01-19 10:01
#167
RpK | 
Iceland pumtac 
Gl to plastE and contE
2016-01-19 10:03
expected noKappa
2016-01-19 10:11
bloodR confirmed
2016-01-19 10:11
assralis
2016-01-19 10:14
#207
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Russia coolakaoff 
assrails
2016-01-19 10:39
assralis better cuz it sounds the same so casters can use it
2016-01-19 11:50
#177
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Russia coolakaoff 
But what happens when they need to kick someone? The guy will stop playing but stil get profit from the org? so in the end it becomes just a standard org with former proplayers as onwers..
2016-01-19 10:14
i think any new player will be contracted only the original five own the company.
2016-01-19 10:15
#189
mir | 
Serbia Krimzynn 
There will be reddit AMA which will answer everything including this.
2016-01-19 10:22
If they want to kick somebody it's gonna a long and complicated process, but not impossible. I think they will pay the kicked player a some sort of "severance pay" + the amount that he owns from the company. Now the player just needs to accept that. And I think anybody would prefer this option instead of share issues that are very uncertain. But yeah I haven't seen the contract so it's pretty pointless to even think about this.
2016-01-19 10:38
#254
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Russia coolakaoff 
yeah, I guess that will be the option. And it's easy to go for it as they haven't reached anything profit or businesswise. anyway it will be running in the frames of standard coporate law. But taking to account how the relationships in teams get spoiled from time to time, the conflicts will be there and that's going to be tough.
2016-01-19 11:23
#337
AnJ | 
Denmark devonBFD 
I think their part is going to be bought out if they get kicked
2016-01-19 13:22
gl tihOp bloodR NicoustiE kuviCk & Guardian
2016-01-19 10:16
Relly bad of Striker not to include their new name in the title tbh-
2016-01-19 10:18
after ur quotes yesterday in the "richard lewis thread" and the comparison with team secret, tell me: do u feel dumb?
2016-01-19 12:29
NOT expected :/
2016-01-19 10:19
unexpected :O Gl in the future astralis :)
2016-01-19 10:20
Sounds gay :/
2016-01-19 10:21
Most fuckboy org name I have ever heard.
2016-01-19 10:25
I don't understand why so many people are against this (at least in reddit)? If they bought the rights and they really like the name Astralis then it's totally ok for me. And I bet the old astralis boys like this too. :) Why wouldn't they?
2016-01-19 10:26
Hm i guess it's just that even though they got the rights to the name etc, astralis housed some of finlands finest players, and the name is associated with finland. And now it will be associated with Denmark. So i guess some finns will be mad about this. I mean imagine if NiP went bankrupt and the players decided to make their own org, and then call it eoLithic for example..
2016-01-19 12:35
as a finn i have no problem with them using the name astralis. on the contrary, i think it was a good move. of course i wasn't part of astralis at any point but i doubt they mind either
2016-01-19 13:54
or perhaps even mTw... oh wait...
2016-01-19 16:54
gl to them!
2016-01-19 10:29
Sticker money dictated this decision. I have no doubt in my mind.
2016-01-19 10:32
No cuz nowadays people get 100% in every org which is worth signing for..
2016-01-19 13:29
name is pretty awkward to say, they better make the stickers cool on csgo.... xdd
2016-01-19 10:32
Wow. Congrats to them, that is a big move. Best of luck to all involved!
2016-01-19 10:35
2016-01-19 10:37
FUCKING COPYCATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2016-01-19 10:37
If you we're able to use your eyes, you would know that they have been in talks with the owners of the old team.. And they have the rights to use it, gg, bye.
2016-01-19 10:47
rights to use it doesnt mean that they arent copycats
2016-01-19 14:42
No fucking shit sherlock? Have rights or not, still lame af to use old CS team name. It's like nickname, you have to invent it yourself. No one is using any of ex-pros nicknames as well. (Expect ScreaM, GuardiaN) It's about respect and sportsmanship.
2016-01-19 20:25
Tier 5.
2016-01-19 10:39
#210
HUNDEN | 
Bangladesh ToRu 
GL
2016-01-19 10:40
cant wait for the stickers
2016-01-19 10:41
how hard is it for these orgs to find good graphic designers? I swear most IM teams have better logos than the rosters making it to majors. We want good stickers, goddammit
2016-01-19 10:42
great idea. If the orgs wont give you power, take the power yourself.
2016-01-19 10:42
really sick
2016-01-19 10:44
#218
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Finally retarded kids can stop spam "?" all the f*cking time.
2016-01-19 10:45
#236
JORDAN | 
Jordan LBJ 
?
2016-01-19 11:07
TSM
2016-01-19 11:58
this is a smart move because they will now receive all of the sticker moneyz, not an org to split em
2016-01-19 10:48
#223
JW | 
United States theobill1 
Nice name SICK STICKERS! Can't wait to have some........
2016-01-19 10:49
#224
NEO | 
Poland m@rulek 
Astralis .....really shit name.
2016-01-19 10:50
#226
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Russia bugsYsiegel 
what about stickers, they are going up in price?
2016-01-19 10:52
new name, same choke
2016-01-19 10:56
Astralis will always belong to great oldschool Finish team. Anyway good luck.
2016-01-19 10:56
Their own name? Astralis 1.6 contE ruuit thiOp GuA diGitaL and there was also bloodR
2016-01-19 11:03
and there was dooberi
2016-01-19 11:24
never seen Guardian nick himself GuA...
2016-01-19 16:55
CB EC XIII edit: Just for info, astralis won vs fnatic (Archi, Tentpole, dsn, f0rest & cArn ) 26:4 that day :-)
2016-01-19 16:57
Really? He used that variation quite a lot.
2016-01-19 21:08
2016-01-19 11:04
players make too much money nowadays, starting their own organization... gonna be funny to see what happens when someone gets kicked from the team but still has a stake in the org...
2016-01-19 11:05
Get bought out by the money they have. But i can totally follow you...
2016-01-19 11:10
yea yea but they could potentially not sell their stake, and then go play for another team and be making money from both.
2016-01-19 11:12
Dre Day is only Eazys pay day ayyyyy
2016-01-19 13:01
not bad
2016-01-19 11:06
Players as co-owners cause they have stakes in the organisation. Might be dangerous when they go bankrupt since players are tied to it. Anyway, I hope it works out for them. I love how they want to keep everything transparant, however i doubt it's gonna be full 100% transparancy. /edit: I remember having Astralis back in 1.6 as a team/organisation. How did they get the name? Or was this free?
2016-01-19 11:12
They have talked with the old team and now they have the rights to use the name. If they have payed a small fee or not, is afaik not known 😊
2016-01-19 11:25
>Might be dangerous when they go bankrupt since players are tied to it. Its an ApS, so they are secured. I believe it is about ~10.000 euro in total they can lose. > I remember having Astralis back in 1.6 as a team/organisation. How did they get the name? Or was this free? They stated they bought the name.
2016-01-19 11:26
The abbreviation ApS is short for private limited company, which means that if they were to go bankrupt, they won't come out of it with debt.
2016-01-19 13:14
very nice
2016-01-19 11:11
#249
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World Vidua 
They are screwed. I don't want to be rude but it seems Kerrigan opened a T-shirt store, sold 5 of those and now thinks he can run eSports org. Seriously, just look how many small, self funded orgs are dying - Titan for example. There is also other story of their recent results. I'm sure they will get sponsors but man, Cajun just recently got Tesla. It costs a lot to maintain such a car. On the other hand, even if it fails they'll get a lot of business experience and that is never a bad thing. Good luck to Danish boys but owning the org I don't see them winning a major. Imagine going to major with sponsor contract expiring and no next sponsor lined up. That's so much added pressure that gamers typically don't handle whatsoever.
2016-01-19 11:18
You know they are backed by a danish IT millionaire called Thomas Ahlers and Sunstone Capital, right?
2016-01-19 12:22
#463
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World Vidua 
Yes, so? Far bigger organizations (out of eSports) has been backed by far bigger people and still failed (and didn't pay salaries). Nobody will use money from their pocket if things start to go bad.
2016-01-19 18:43
So why are they more fked now than before? Ur logics off dude
2016-01-20 00:53
#484
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World Vidua 
Because players are part of the business process, and those players aren't very mature themselves, are known for chokes already etc. Again, imagine the org is having a problem and all of it has to be disclosed to them - players - as they are shareholders while they need to focus on the game as they are leaving for a major. Running a business is stressful enough.
2016-01-20 01:17
Titan i think is an exception. certain things lead to their downfall so yeahhh
2016-01-19 15:22
ayyy lmao
2016-01-19 11:19
astralis.steelpad
2016-01-19 11:23
? create own organization with Blackjack and Hookers!
2016-01-19 11:34
#277
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Poland Marcines 
they srsly didnt have any good options if they decided to create own organization
2016-01-19 11:56
you would know :)
2016-01-19 16:24
Who is device?
2016-01-19 11:57
if the players are co-owners, what happens if they want to make a roster move?
2016-01-19 11:57
I think this will be answered in the reddit AMA
2016-01-19 12:23
hltv admins fapping to this news
2016-01-19 12:05
#289
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Sweden Donger89 
ayy lmao
2016-01-19 12:13
2016-01-19 12:13
looks like communist logo tbh...
2016-01-19 12:47
Dude, Hammer and Sickle stickers would look AWESOME. Especially on AKs!
2016-01-19 12:49
#299
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Russia bugsYsiegel 
sold tsm stickers already ffs xD
2016-01-19 12:23
dont like the new name...
2016-01-19 12:27
i'm gonna build my own, with blackjack and hookers inc
2016-01-19 12:29
expected.. i told myself that 1 weak before.. why don't they do an own organization and maybe be successful with it and earn some more money and the inspiration is bigger as well.. way to go (y)
2016-01-19 12:35
#307
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United Kingdom dronee 
So when the time comes to change a player, surely that is going to cause some issues? 'You can't kick me, I own it!'
2016-01-19 12:40
vote system probably..
2016-01-19 12:42
return of Astralis hahah youtube.com/watch?v=IZ8qi4Zj6sY
2016-01-19 12:42
Congrats boys, you deserve all the good things coming your way!
2016-01-19 12:52
nice
2016-01-19 12:56
Pretty smart move, once one of them retires they can maintain a job within the org and they get to use the gear of their chosing.
2016-01-19 12:59
#322
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Germany NjiNjiNji 
that logo is ugly as fk
2016-01-19 13:05
#323
f0rest | 
Argentina GZ^ 
that team name sux hard :c
2016-01-19 13:06
#324
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Russia KygecHukx 
nonames
2016-01-19 13:07
#334
dennis | 
Portugal publ1c 
astralis, old 1.5/1.6 finish team. Lack of originality!
2016-01-19 13:17
astralis.es/ — their website
2016-01-19 13:30
astralis.dk/ drug tests ;D
2016-01-19 13:31
LOL
2016-01-19 13:32
astralis-hotel-walldorf.de/ they have their own hotel too!
2016-01-19 14:06
2016-01-19 14:30
#345
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Spain akproxx 
very interesting
2016-01-19 13:32
what a shit logo, even a 16year old cod movie maker could have done something better
2016-01-19 13:32
Ehm next time u wanna make fun witj my passionn ITS THEATER MAKER NOT MOVIEMAKER OH MY GUS TOP KEK COD SO 2007 ITS OBV ITS COD BO3 SP FOR PS4 NEVER PC
2016-01-19 16:27
#351
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
gl Astralis but... there is no better name? =(
2016-01-19 13:42
gg
2016-01-19 13:44
#353
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United States f0xes` 
Sad that no one wanted to pick them up.
2016-01-19 13:45
according to karrigan they did have offers: "We chose this offer over countless others, including far more profitable in the short term"
2016-01-19 13:59
Chokealis?
2016-01-19 13:47
A new way to do eSports. This will be interesting to follow.
2016-01-19 14:04
New name same chokes
2016-01-19 14:07
instantly thought of the old finnish team
2016-01-19 14:12
New name same chitty fanbois
2016-01-19 14:16
pretty sure there was an org with the same name in 1.6
2016-01-19 14:17
new name, same haterzzzzz ayyyyy but nice doe go astralis
2016-01-19 14:29
If you're gonna go with a finnish 1.6 name go with Destination Skyline, cause that name is so much better.
2016-01-19 14:30
rekt
2016-01-19 14:31
#372
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United States barsad 
Sick new name TSM. You go guys! :)
2016-01-19 14:32
Why not Why not Team Choking ?
2016-01-19 14:50
gj Devve
2016-01-19 14:50
uh I'm pretty sure there was a Finnish 1.6 team called astralis like 10-11 years ago
2016-01-19 14:56
Astralix and obelix Ohhh wait
2016-01-19 15:00
gl!
2016-01-19 15:05
who ?
2016-01-19 15:09
#387
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Argentina Reymon 
excelent news ;)
2016-01-19 15:16
ffs atleast come up with original name if youre building a new org instead of using oldschool name that u have 0 connections with. Thats fucking retarded lmao
2016-01-19 15:18
#392
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United States r0seCS 
Wow I can't believe they dropped devve for this 'device' person.
2016-01-19 15:24
#394
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Choketralis?
2016-01-19 15:27
#396
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
They should get more servers in their website.
2016-01-19 15:29
nice gl
2016-01-19 15:29
Awesome! Good Luck
2016-01-19 15:33
gl! <3
2016-01-19 15:37
rip Team Secret but gl <3 device
2016-01-19 15:40
totally unexpected. but think it will work
2016-01-19 15:48
Best of luck
2016-01-19 15:52
expected
2016-01-19 15:58
wow, shit name
2016-01-19 16:11
so more choke in the future without them having to fear to lose their org...awesome they can fuck around now without haveing to worry..gg never bet on them again :)
2016-01-19 16:18
yeah ikr. let's make our own org with the help of heavy investment and throw some games for skins and be completely unprofessional and tarnish that new brand we are working to establish after we could have just taken hugely profitable offers instead. /sarcasm unbelievable how retarded and childish some people are on this website. really
2016-01-19 16:32
sure "hugely profitable offers" - pretty sure they won't get them btw I never said they will throw games...I said that the pressure is gone now..they don't have to constantly fear losing their org.. fanboys still will be fans...they don't care about it ..they just look for excuses like always
2016-01-19 16:37
a top3 team in the world in a booming esport title. im pretty sure they had very sizeable offers and turned them down in order to do their own thing. a big risk and an opportunity that i doubt they will piss away with a careless attitude.
2016-01-19 16:39
lmao how much m8? how much??
2016-01-19 16:36
did I say that I lost money on them?? no :) But it will be very likely that it will happen now when ppl still bet on them
2016-01-19 16:39
if you are going to bet, be prepared to lose your precious pixels
2016-01-19 16:39
"precious pixels" which I can sell for REAL money..but I guess kids like you won't understand it :)
2016-01-19 16:41
thats your problem for betting in the first place m8
2016-01-19 16:42
yes ..earning alot of money is my problem :)
2016-01-19 16:43
yet you are whining about them losing you money???
2016-01-19 16:44
i dont really like this name
2016-01-19 16:21
unexpected. kinda disappointed they didn't get picked up by a big-name brand but gl
2016-01-19 16:30
1.6 old school clan tag
2016-01-19 16:32
Good luck Astralis!
2016-01-19 16:45
astralis ? original.
2016-01-19 16:46
#438
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Bangladesh Ev1l Japan 
tihOp inc
2016-01-19 16:47
Good for them. I think this is an important step for cs. Hopefully they can step up their play a bit now.
2016-01-19 17:09
#447
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Brazil hugoooo 
Great to see such nice and oldschool team back! My favorite teams back then were g3x, Pentagram and Astralis! Who remembers the Guardian who played there? He was nowhere as good as the slovak GuardiaN, but still... ruuit by other side is one of my favorite 1.6 players ever, such a beast.
2016-01-19 17:13
2016-01-19 17:37
#448
Spain fd` 
+1+1+1+1
2016-01-19 17:14
wtf is that name worst name of tier1 team
2016-01-19 17:57
tsm on a cs team was even more stupid
2016-01-19 18:03
Yeah, like "Team SoloMid" was a fucking good name.
2016-01-19 20:49
Great news. I wish you guys the best of luck!
2016-01-19 18:01
I honestly though Alliance would pick them up. I don't like their logo or their name :(
2016-01-19 18:10
GL Astralis! Not a fan, but I respect those players.
2016-01-19 19:19
Astralis sounds like some tier 5 team. Eww.
2016-01-19 19:58
+1
2016-01-20 09:41
WOw, best ever team
2016-01-19 23:55
NEW STICKERS HYPE
2016-01-20 00:44
why not Exousia? bit more classic finnish name than astralis
2016-01-20 01:05
nice
2016-01-20 09:36
good luck
2016-01-20 09:38
Team Secret > Astralis ;(
2016-01-21 12:53
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