PGL revise spots for Asia Minor

PGL updated their slot distribution for the PGL KeSPA Regional Minor Championship Asia which will take place from May 5-8.

Yesterday's announcement saw PGL creating an exclusive qualifier for the Oceanian teams that will take place from April 19-21 and the previous slot distribution, which gave out two invite, two Chinese, two Korean, and two Asian spots, had to be revamped.

The Chinese qualifiers have already been completed and VG.CyberZen and TYLOO qualified, which meant that excluding a Chinese slot wouldn't be possible. The other two teams that were confirmed for the Asia Minor were Renegades and TheMongolz who received the invite slots.


Renegades were invited alongside TheMongolz

The Romanian company decided to remove one of the Asian invites as South Korea kept their two slots. The updated distribution now looks as follows:

Other Invite spot  Other Invite spot  China Chinese spot  China Chinese spot
Korea Korean spot  Korea Korean spot  Other Asian spot  Other Oceanian spot

With this update, 128 Asian teams that are not from China or South Korea will battle it our for one spot instead of two in the Asian qualifier that will take place from the 12th to the 14th of April.

gg
2016-04-11 16:52
THIS IS BS!! There is 2 spots for Korea than is completely irrelevant on CSGO and just 1 for the rest of Asia, where you can find several teams better than Korean best. Valve should really address these kind of stuff on Minors and assure there is equal chances for all teams. YOU FUCKED UP PGL!!, this minor has been completely whored out. PS: sorry for hijacking your comment :P
2016-04-11 19:12
it's hosted in korea by the governing body of korean esports, why cant they reserve two spots for their teams?
2016-04-11 19:23
#132
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Norway ungfilosof 
So when PGL hosts a tournament in Romania, a Romanian team has to be invited?
2016-04-11 19:27
im afraid you're mixing up PGL with PGL and "okay thing to do" with "the only acceptable action"
2016-04-11 19:56
I'm afraid you're mixing up your retardness with his fully functional brain
2016-04-11 20:33
hehe giggled :D
2016-04-11 21:15
I never said they can't, but it's quite obvius they shouldn't do it. Minors should try to be inclusive and not exclusive, simple as that. There is no underlines on it, political or economical readings or any of that kind of stuff. Minors were created to give new chances to more teams around the world and as things stands today, asian Minor will have 6 teams from 3 countries and only one chance to players from the rest of the continent besides Mongolz. That's completely unfair and not just that, it's harmful for CS as competition and viewers. Since there is actually a bunch of better teams on the rest of Asia than anything you can't find on Korea. To some degree is the same kind of shit we saw on ECS this week, with Tempo Storm not being invited to qualifiers at least, but you had KKona and Obey Alliance there and Complexity with TSM getting direct invites. Not just Tempo Storm, we all know Selfless is also a better team than CoL or TSM but had to go to qualies to end up being defeated after a player was ddosed. Or Flipsid3 on Europe than also didn't got a chance to qualify but you had SK and AGG there undeniably worse teams than F3.
2016-04-11 20:45
The purpose of a minor is to give teams experience If you wanted the best teams you would watch the majors instead. Obviously Korean teams need tournament experience, and therefore they want to arrange one where they can get one. So if Kespa arranges a minor for asian teams and gives 25% of the spots to their own teams, what's wrong with that? Noone is forcing Kespa to host a tournament or to invite non-kespa teams to it, but they did that anyway because they are reasonable. How can it be a bad thing to let teams from other asian countries have a chance to enter their tournament just because there aren't enough spots to compete for?
2016-04-12 14:02
Are u korean? Minors are about give more chances to teams than previously had none to get on majors. It's a great way for some teams to gain experience, but that's not the reason Minors were created. The only Minor with issues is the Asian one, because is the less developed from all and nobody really cares about them. Organizers got away with stuff you wouldn't have chance to do on Europe. Or do you think PGL had a chance to invite 2 romanians teams on the last one? Or that if they did it all was fair and good? On the end, I don't give a fuck about the teams than qualify from asian Minor, more than likely they will be out on the qualifier anyway. But it's quite simple to understand than Valve handled the event to the wrong company. You can think it's fair and nothing was wrong as much as you want, that doesn't neglect the fact than the rest of Asia was left out for this event.
2016-04-12 17:37
Or you can see it as the rest of asia being invited to a korean event?
2016-04-12 17:38
Promote it as a Korean event to all the community and I wouldn't have an issue with it.
2016-04-12 17:40
"PGL Korean esports association regional minor championship seoul" seems pretty korean to me
2016-04-12 17:41
PGL Regional Minor Championship: Asia minor.pglesports.com/asia/seoul-2016/tou.. I don't see much Korea on the official site of the minor, you just invented a name.
2016-04-12 17:46
#181
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United States lumpy seal 
You guys ever miss an easy ak spray or just any easy kill like a Shamu would and they you know that's a major scripper. Major Kappa alert
2016-04-13 05:26
#148
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United Kingdom Theodoooore 
Another hijack appears! Just throw the Korean spots to the rest of asia and boom, problem solved! The Korean teams now actually have to do well to get to the minor and it does not exclude them or fuck them over like the Oceanians and the rest of asia got.
2016-04-11 21:17
Nice change
2016-04-11 16:53
cewl
2016-04-11 16:53
#22
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Hungary Gattsper 
nice
2016-04-11 16:53
2 KR SPOTS!!
2016-04-11 16:53
no gud
2016-04-11 16:53
Oo
2016-04-11 16:53
lel
2016-04-11 16:54
gg SEA rekt :(
2016-04-11 16:54
Bullcrap, the bias is as bad as the government in my country.
2016-04-11 16:54
Najib bae, clean and stable govt!
2016-04-11 16:55
SO fucking sad dude , korea scene hadn't shown any potential and they get 2 slots , sea scene has teams such as mvp.karnel dream[s]cape and nxl threats that can easily trash any korean team
2016-04-11 16:59
#43
AdreN | 
United Kingdom Lonom8 
I feel bad for SEA teams, hope your team trashes the two Korean teams :c
2016-04-11 16:57
sad but true
2016-04-11 16:58
#84
Thorin | 
United Kingdom DyLanoo 
+1
2016-04-11 17:20
nxl hasn't been any good since like 2013 tbh Team Signature from Thailand is a real contender.
2016-04-11 19:04
#65
Kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax 
+1 one team from Korea is more than enough. They should just have an East Asian qualifier and Western Asia qualifier instead of these 2 Korea slots
2016-04-11 17:06
#33
India anxF 
:(
2016-04-11 16:54
Aside from Tyloo, Renegades, Mongolz and MVP.Karmal, all asian teams are shit.
2016-04-11 16:55
#76
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China Paracios 
lol ever heard of cyberzen?
2016-04-11 17:14
Indeed I have and I think they are HIGHLY overrated and are on the level of a t3 eu team.
2016-04-11 17:15
#113
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Greece hekzy 
m8 they are really good! You will see.
2016-04-11 18:26
the beat tyloo in the china qualifier you know...
2016-04-11 18:46
you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about, do you?
2016-04-12 04:52
#161
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Australia arbiter6784 
Well, considering they got Mauled by Renegades at Taipei they did lose some credit... buuuuuut They are easily top 2 China and probably top 3-4 Asia
2016-04-12 08:08
LOL KeSPA must have paid a shit ton to still have 2 slots. What a joke..
2016-04-11 16:55
More likely that PGL would have to pay shit tons to take spot away from SK after it already beeing agreen on with kespa.
2016-04-11 17:08
Rip KeSPA
2016-04-11 16:55
#39
AdreN | 
United Kingdom Lonom8 
AYY FUCKING LMAOOOOO FUCK KESPA, FUCK PGL Rest of Asia > South Korea NORKS ARE BETTER THAN SORKS
2016-04-11 16:56
#51
AdreN | 
United Kingdom Lonom8 
np fam
2016-04-11 16:59
#40
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Finland Al_Aziz 
KeSPA how much?
2016-04-11 16:56
why isnt Turkey listed?
2016-04-11 16:57
Cuz erdogan doesnt like virtual games, he prefers RL CS
2016-04-11 16:59
u know dead terrorist best terrorist
2016-04-11 17:04
But erdogan is playing for the terrors? I dont get it...
2016-04-11 17:31
because your teams compete in the SEEC?
2016-04-11 17:09
why not remove a korean spot?
2016-04-11 16:57
Why offer 2 spots for korea? 1 spot is justified.
2016-04-11 16:57
#46
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Germany Dayjay 
lol. rip cs go.
2016-04-11 16:58
Thats good for Austria scene
2016-04-11 16:58
#49
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Australia TotalEclipse 
LOL
2016-04-11 16:59
#53
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Vietnam zsb 
2 slots for korea and i bet they cant make it out of groups.
2016-04-11 17:00
Wtf is this? I dont even understand why they changed the shitty wualifier. I said the problem would be clear if they remove 1 spot for korea so korea only has 1 team. So is this right? Renegades Mongolz Cyberzen Tyloo Project.kr AU team Asian team Asia
2016-04-11 17:00
#58
AdreN | 
United Kingdom Lonom8 
Nah it's RNG Mongolz VG.CZ Tyloo Korean team Korean team AU team SEA team which is really shitty tbh
2016-04-11 17:03
#162
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Australia arbiter6784 
It'll end up being: RNG Mongolz VG.CZ Tyloo MyRevenge (If they're even a thing still) IDontEvenKnowWhoTheFuckCares<3 Immunity/Legacy Threats/MVP.Karnal
2016-04-12 08:11
Threats , nxl , mvp.karnal , risky , signature . Any of them would be better than Korean teams.
2016-04-11 17:01
#117
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Greece hekzy 
I root for Signature! Go tor!
2016-04-11 18:30
HAHAHAHA what a joke
2016-04-11 17:03
#59
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Russia razorVJ 
2 spots for Korea, that's fucked up.
2016-04-11 17:03
#60
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United States MAY0 
people in korea don't care about cs:go they are to busy milking mmo's and mobile games why give korea 2 spots
2016-04-11 17:03
#62
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United Kingdom trtr098 
Calm down my friends, 2 Korean spot = 2 less opponents for the Chinese and Mongolz because there're no good Korean teams.
2016-04-11 17:04
shieeeettt , less chance for indian teams now i wodner who will get the remaining invite spots
2016-04-11 17:06
risky gaming and mvp karnal (probably)
2016-04-11 17:09
ik karnal ,who is risky ??
2016-04-11 17:09
2016-04-11 17:11
ohhhh, i just india gets no ping problems this time ;)
2016-04-11 17:11
MVP cant play because the qualifier is during working hours in the middle of the week; and 4 days notice...
2016-04-11 17:14
rip then
2016-04-11 17:14
Would be immunity since they just travel to SG and play in asia qualifier
2016-04-11 17:17
#64
f0rest | 
Vietnam ZeDD_V 
this is not LEL or SC2 PGL :( 2 spots for Korean ?
2016-04-11 17:06
So they would rather korea have +2 slots and the rest of asia 1? The qualifier is already retarded and SoStronk are doing a very bad job and playing favorites.
2016-04-11 17:08
How did SoStronk do a very bad job?
2016-04-11 17:51
Timing is inconvenient for the west, server location are all in the EAST. If you want the truth so stronk>any other organization in asia but they are still doing a terrible job.
2016-04-11 17:56
Doing a better job than that scam mixbot which forces every team to play on Singapore servers. If you are from MENA region than you dont have to worry because most region ping well to India.
2016-04-11 18:08
I do agree, as i said sostronk even with their bad management>all asian organization yet on the european/NA scale they still suck and bad and favor teams over others. Why don't they open Middle eastern servers just like asia? because indian team wouldn't like to play on them even though they would have low ping. And no, not all middle eastern teams have decent ping to india, jordan/lebanese teams have +150 ping. Only teams from The gulf area have decent ping Kuwait:~100 (not all ISPS) UAE:~60 KSA:~100 (not all cities)
2016-04-11 18:13
Nope, someone asked this on SoStronk forums about Dubai servers, and they replied that they are still studying their player density and would open servers up in future, (this was like 4 months ago) and no players wont decide that which servers to play on, SoStronk has its own way of selecting server based on weighted ping, and i think there is going to be a dubai server for qualifier especially for KSA and kuwait. You cant call them bad based on just the fact that they dont have servers in Dubai(which isnt the likely case since i think they will have for this qualifier.)
2016-04-11 18:33
They confirmed that they wont have dubai servers for this qualifier, you didn't comment on the timing? We have to wake up at 7AM to play How is this fair? favoring teams over others is not fair as well.. The well known teams got to register first and got the news first.
2016-04-11 19:31
WHAT ? Timing issue will happen in every qualifier, because there is a time limit for the qualifiers and the games should end in the specific time alloted., and so many games to be played out, you cant please everyone in this situation, every qualifier has these issues, and you just have to deal with it. You are 1000% wrong in your last point, i was there when this news broke out regarding the qualifiers, the official announcement was done by PGL, and and i opened the page, when nobody was registered , and my team was the 3rd-4th which registered there following the announcement, nobody is going to come at your door and knock you and tell you this, if you actively checked reddit, you wouldnt be saying this.
2016-04-11 19:37
No? not true at all lol.. ive played in several qualifiers since ESWC 2007 to this day there is no qualifier that started at 7AM for some people and noon for others? Why should we be the ones that wake in the morning? I actively check reddit/HLTV and i follow PGL there were teams that got the news before others and the server locations is biased. Your team might be one of the teams that got informed before others that is why you might be defending them lol. Still 100x>mixbot and their retarded admins..
2016-04-11 19:50
Well i dont know mate, but you are wrong on that biasedness regarding info of qualifier, because i can bet my life that info was first ruled out by PGL, and no one knew before it.
2016-04-12 14:28
After speaking to an admin, its absolutely not SoStronks fault he explained to me what happened and they had no time to prepare so yeah, they deserve a break on this one but asians deserve better for the next one.
2016-04-12 16:05
so your saying if we face a team from singapour and we both get bad pings we will play on banaglore server? rumors i have heard SG teams use a program to ping high to india so they can tell the admin they have bad ping to india which results in dxb teams playing 110ping vs 5pin
2016-04-11 22:17
I dont know about that, but that could happen, highly unlikely though.
2016-04-12 14:29
I knew people did it 1.6 to avoid playing on 50-70 ping servers. Some swede teams did it in 2014 to avoid playing on UK server and to play on a netherlands server. Some people would do anything to win.
2016-04-12 16:07
If those players are on fiber, then they cant like spike up ping, sure about that.
2016-04-12 16:12
its a software, they don't do it by downloading porn or something like that. The software changes your routing to a certain server, even though the software is used to make your routes better.
2016-04-12 16:26
You cant change the routing, very limited ISP's in the world allow that to happen, changing routing is a very big deal for ISPs and most of them dont allow it to happen. May be you are right, but i dont think it will happen.
2016-04-12 18:00
What do you think VPNs do ?:> If not, they can just limit DDoS themselves for 5minutes.
2016-04-12 19:37
as expected korea still get to keep their 2 spots, corruption from KesPa at its finest
2016-04-11 17:09
asia akira
2016-04-11 17:11
the worst organization of csgo history
2016-04-11 17:11
PGL wants to host in Korea for some reason, KeSPA demands 2 spots or no host. You think PGL can remove 1 Korean spot just like that? If PGl wants to remove Korean spot they either would have to move location from South Korea or pay giant chunk of money to KeSPA.
2016-04-11 17:15
#127
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World temuuj1n 
Korean nerds couldn't fight their way through qualifiers and want more than 1 slot lel
2016-04-11 19:03
Koreans paying mad money to get slots only to fail like always...
2016-04-11 17:15
#82
Thorin | 
United Kingdom DyLanoo 
Why is there 2 Korean spots? One would fine but they are plenty of better SEA teams. There been an ANZ spot is ok but It really needs there own Minor
2016-04-11 17:17
#163
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Australia arbiter6784 
Yea. The AU/NZ minor would probs end up like... - Renegades - Immunity - Legacy - Chiefs - Corvidae - Alpha Sydney - Infernum - Midgaard/Frenetic Affray/Exile5 Meanwhile the Asian Minor: - Cyberzen - TyLoo - Threat - MVP.Karnal - MyRevenge - Risky - nxl - MongolZ This gives so much more of a chance to two growing scenes in CS:GO.
2016-04-12 08:22
asia is so big, is impossible a finals with only 8 slots.
2016-04-11 17:22
128 teams 1 slot heheh, GL bois.
2016-04-11 17:35
#99
aizy | 
World icyprinc3 
mvp karnal please please please qualify! its time for sea cs go!
2016-04-11 18:02
We have to skip this due to college commitments :[ Coz the qualifier starts at 12PM on a WEEKDAY are they fking mad?! Anyways u can root for signature, they deserved to be in this asia minor.
2016-04-11 18:07
So many games to be played out, so not everyone can be pleased, this is qualifier life bruuh
2016-04-11 18:09
Well if its on a friday evening until sunday it'll be fine I guess?
2016-04-11 18:10
PGL decided the dates, and i think they dont care, with what has been happening in regards to this minor till now.
2016-04-11 18:26
Thats the sad part.
2016-04-11 18:33
Can you please hire a fucking writer who actually speaks English, it's so painful reading these articles that sound like they were written by a 12 year old trying to sound professional
2016-04-11 17:31
#91
Panama JJAU 
knew it
2016-04-11 17:34
we did it reddit
2016-04-11 17:37
#93
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
is mongolian rctic twista men getting invite? ))
2016-04-11 17:39
were gonna shitstomp everyone, faker is playing csgo now, mark my words.
2016-04-11 17:46
#101
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Netherlands Krin 
Okay so, Renegades moved to the US to compete in NA leagues and such. Last edition of the minor it still made sense to invite Renegades to the Asia minor because they had only moved to the US a few weeks before and hadn't competed in anything.. That's not the case now. They're competing in the ESL Pro League. Why do they get to play the Asia minor?
2016-04-11 18:08
The finalists of the last asian minor are invited
2016-04-11 20:26
#150
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Netherlands Krin 
Thanks, that makes sense.
2016-04-11 22:08
they don't get a choice, it's based on your country of origin
2016-04-12 01:54
Curious about the groupings Most likely they will separate the 2 Koreans into different groups as well as the 2 Chinese teams as they qualified from the same pre-qualifiers But will they put Immunity in a different group from Renegades just due to them being Australians? if so we already know the groups for the Asia Minor right now LOL
2016-04-11 18:14
you're probably right also fuck KESPA
2016-04-12 06:02
i would assume mongolz or renegades tyloo or cyberzen sea or oce korea or korea
2016-04-12 10:18
why korea spots?! WHY?!
2016-04-11 18:17
#108
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Europe midi 
1 slot for abos + forcing renegades to play in the abos qualis would be more than enough
2016-04-11 18:18
fucking delusional to have 2 slots ffrom korea since their best team are a piece of shit
2016-04-11 18:24
#111
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Malaysia Mision 
Stupid change. And also sad that mvp.karnal can't attend the qualifier :'(
2016-04-11 18:26
#114
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Greece hekzy 
Why?!??! Ez for Threats then
2016-04-11 18:27
#116
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Malaysia Mision 
"Disappointed to say that we will be pulling out of the PGL Valve Asian Minor as it has been scheduled on a weekday during working hours. Some of us are unable to make it due to studies and work related stuff."
2016-04-11 18:30
#119
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Greece hekzy 
Aaaahh.. :( Well, then I guess it was good that they removed an Asian slot because MVP.k would've definetely made it through.
2016-04-11 18:32
Is this qualifiers for Asia or for China/Korea/Australia ? makes a difference tbh
2016-04-11 18:26
Asia spot will be Threat I think:) really happy to see mongolz and renegade get invited hope they can match against each other again!
2016-04-11 18:29
#118
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Norway RainTop1HLTV 
no africa qualifiers. wow
2016-04-11 18:31
SHAME ON KOREAN CSGO
2016-04-11 18:33
#123
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Hong Kong eldoodaks 
I still don't see why Koreans have 2 spots. Makes no sense.
2016-04-11 18:35
still corrupt as fuck
2016-04-11 18:40
fuck off PGL
2016-04-11 19:02
Teams should be able to qualify based on merit, not bias. Does korea even have 2 teams that can compete with lets say the 1-5 best teams from china?
2016-04-11 19:15
MVP and t5 are the 2 best Korean teams at the moment. MVP can beat maybe 5th best cn team on a really good day. T5 are worse. Although there are rumours that there are going to be roster changes in MVP. Some project.Kr players are also making a team for the qualifier.
2016-04-11 19:34
Just as I thought :/ ty for the info tho +1 Clearly 1 spot should be enough for korea
2016-04-14 16:26
the land of throwasia
2016-04-11 19:38
okey 2 korean spots looks bad but its almost irrelevant in the big picture. renegades and 1 chinese team are almost guareanteed to win major qualifier spots. TheMongolz can surprise once again. but 1 or 2 spots for asia is almost the same.. hopefully their best team wins and gets an opportunity to win against the favourires but 2 teams wouldnt make it any more likely asia needs to get off their bubble, join some lower tier EU tournaments to prove their worth in the big picture, prove their worth against bigger scenes.
2016-04-11 19:48
Didn't know anything about KeSPA, only heard people saying they hope it stays away from CSGO. Now I know; FUCK KESPA.
2016-04-11 20:07
2 slots for Korea and 1 slot for rest of Asia? LMAO
2016-04-11 20:58
rOFL this obvious sork bias sad
2016-04-11 21:15
korean cs been dead wemadefox was good but no more
2016-04-11 21:54
Ez for topgun
2016-04-12 00:26
lame as fuck would have loved to see Signature + Threats
2016-04-12 00:29
gg PGL, screw SEA over instead of removing a korean spot
2016-04-12 01:51
#158
jks | 
Australia Klashik 
time for reddit rage again
2016-04-12 05:55
2 spots for Korean teams ? 2 for Chinese teams is okay but SEA should have 2 spots as well
2016-04-12 07:33
;) ahahahah
2016-04-12 16:06
1 spot for the host country makes sense, but 2? No way, especially not at the expense of the rest of Asia.
2016-04-13 05:22
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