FalleN replies to SK-LG controversy

Striker
May 29th, 2016 12:35

Earlier today Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo gave an extensive statement to The Daily Dot as a reply to the emerged controversy between Luminosity and SK Gaming after the German organization attempted to poach the Brazilian team.

Yesterday morning ESPN's Jacob Wolf released a story about SK Gaming and Luminosity possibly locking horns in a legal battle over unfulfilled contracts.

The German organization had signed contracts with Luminosity's players, their coach and manager. However, the group decided to stick with the American organization, as they had signed letters of intent to extend their contract for another two years.


FalleN releases huge statement about going back-and-forth with SK for the last three months

Upon learning the players, coach and manager would go back on the contracts, SK Gaming threatened to pursue legal action due to unfulfilled terms.

Team captain and in-game leader, Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo, wrote up an extensive explanation of the entire situation, released on The Daily Dot website.

In the statement, he also revealed he himself had barely had any contact with SK apart from one e-mail, telling the organization to contact Luminosity's owner, Steve Maida, and most of their communication was done through the other players.

"SK knew we had a LOI to extend our contract signed and not only didn't respect it, as they said they would when they first approached me, but helped inserting into my teammates mind that they didn't have to fulfill our contract with LG." Toledo said in the statement.

"What we didn't realize was that the move made by Alex and SK was actually something called "Tortuous Interference", which is illegal not only in sports. Googling it, you will conclude it means they are interfering with a team that actually is under contract, for their own benefits, doesn't matter if it's later or not."

The entire statement, going over his and the team's point of view on all communications, can be found on The Daily Dot.

Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
646
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
#1
United States yvr 
Nice, good statement from FalleN.
2016-05-29 12:36
He is right
2016-05-29 12:35
watch thorins video to understand the sk side aswell
2016-05-29 12:37
SK has always been a shady org. Thats why heaton, potti etc left them too back 2004 or something
2016-05-29 13:37
I don't know what u guys are thinking, but i'm ashamed of the brazilians didn't honor the first contract with LG org, then after signing with SK org, they didn't honor new contract as well. They have good reasons to not go to SK-Gaming after they won the Major, but they should have thought of that before signing contracts. Both SK-Gaming org and the brazilian guys should be punished some how.
2016-05-29 17:45
#349
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Germany s2ily 
Feel the same way. A statement should not prevent from legal pursuit. This shows the face of the LG management which should be honoured!
2016-05-29 18:03
#407
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Germany No_Kappa 
All the comments on this page could be erased. And nothing of value would be lost. But I like drama and hltv plebs with along with their drama queen thorin are the best for that.
2016-05-29 21:58
Yeah, and your comment is very valuable. It's ILLEGAL sign with 2 orgs in the same period.PONTO. No discussion about that. Cry however you want bro.
2016-05-30 01:23
#439
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Germany No_Kappa 
Ok lawyer. You clearly has all the details and education required to give a verdict in this case.
2016-05-30 02:05
Man, if you don't you clearly are a dumb person which is in favor of impeachment.
2016-05-30 02:56
#448
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Germany No_Kappa 
2016-05-30 05:12
#492
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Brazil depa1 
" Long life to Communism! ", "PTralha" Detected.
2016-05-30 20:16
The new contract was post dated meaning it comes into date after the luminosity ones runs out. Luminosity had not renewed their contract with the players with in the two week window stated on the Letter of Intent. This means that Luminosity did not hold up their side of the Letter of Intent. Because of this letter of intent Luminosity went back on their words meaning that they have expressed lack of interest in the players.
2016-05-30 10:42
"HLTV plebs" ==> you still post here Making fun of Thorin? I'm sure that he knows better then you what's going on in the pro scene. But yes, people like to think that hey are good at everything.
2016-05-30 08:08
#466
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Germany No_Kappa 
nt drama queen servant
2016-05-30 13:39
Truth hurts ah? hahaha
2016-05-30 13:41
#468
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Germany No_Kappa 
hltv pleb truth? LUL
2016-05-30 13:57
Hiding behind "LUL" and expresions that make you look cool behind the monitor. Frustration can give you heart attacks..we don't want to loose you mr BubuxXL
2016-05-30 14:00
#473
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Germany No_Kappa 
triggered
2016-05-30 14:15
Still trying haha.
2016-05-30 14:36
#479
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Germany No_Kappa 
i like how this conversation is so far from the original discussion. nt
2016-05-30 16:13
Well, that's what happens when you tryhard like that.
2016-05-30 16:34
#482
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Germany No_Kappa 
If you say so.
2016-05-30 16:35
thx
2016-05-30 16:35
brazil > sweden cs accept
2016-05-30 16:21
i definitley agree. fallen fucked up.
2016-05-29 18:23
Big time
2016-05-30 10:43
People in the right tend to stay quiet as they are coming from a place of strength and those in the wrong, tend to be more vocal. Fallens statement yet again makes it sound like he's a kid who has no clue. He's not he's an adult and should take responsibility for his choices and actions.
2016-05-29 18:48
Fallen and his teammates are wrong on this, but at least he addmited. Now they are probably expecting legal actions to be taken by SK gaming, and lg will lose unfortunatelly
2016-05-29 19:54
Fallen hasn't admitted shit, he just blamed his team mates and SK for the entire thing.
2016-05-29 19:58
assuming that what he said is the truth, why would he lie about it and blame himself if he was really trying to stick with lg?
2016-05-29 21:35
It can't be truth. So izi to see bro. Cheer for the players, but don't try to apologize people's mistakes.
2016-05-30 01:24
So who, apart from himself, made him sign the contract?
2016-05-30 03:12
Agree!
2016-05-30 04:56
Not unfortunately. LG were with holding prize money that the players earned. This org doesn't deserve shit
2016-05-30 10:45
i dont think SK should be punished. In all sports you have orgs trying to get each others players when the contracts expire. Thats the game. Luminosity could just been fast and extended those contracts from the first place. I can't see what SK did wrong, i can see that the LG players did wrong when they didnt just say no, if they really wanted to stick with their org.
2016-05-29 19:58
The contracts hadn't expired yet. That's what makes it questionable, and possibly even illegal. It really depends on where the lawsuits get filed.
2016-05-29 21:58
I'm not talking about this incident, I'm talking in general. SK is a terrible organization.
2016-05-29 22:46
#475
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Germany Bier 
yet you are a nip fan. nip is one of the biggest jokes (the org)
2016-05-30 14:47
Not even close. Their last ceo was a joke though
2016-05-30 17:27
#486
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Germany Bier 
so? sk made some huge mistakes in the past but so did nip. let the past be past, in this case sk is definitely not the bad guy
2016-05-30 18:15
I never said they were in this case, but I dont like them
2016-05-30 18:23
Doesn't matter if everyone/every org do something wrong that this action won't be no longer wrong.
2016-05-30 03:19
#415
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
please have a look at thorins video, he explains SK's side aswell, which none of the other article does. SK just offered them a contract after their current ones with LG expire. LG players WANTED to sign with SK (bigger org, better offer), they even asked for legal advice and requested if they somehow could get out of their LG contracts faster. Fallen even invited SK to LA to discuss contracts etc. LG players took the initiatives. When LG org finds out, all of a sudden Fallen and the players felt "pressured" to sign with SK. LG play the victim card.... Why Fallens sudden change of mind? because LG has their prize money from MLG columbus 500.000$ and prolly even more prize money (and salaries?) LG are the bad guys in this, SK just gave them an offer
2016-05-29 22:38
Since lg looks like jerks to me, this scenario makes most sense to me xD no hard feelings fanboys:*
2016-05-29 22:45
Yah LG seems to me more shady since they never signed the Real Contract just a Letter of intent but it still works like a real Contract And I guess that expires Juli 1st? And then the day before major players sign a Contract without Legal Advice or talks to there ORGs in a Million Dollar Sport
2016-05-30 05:19
Man it seems you didn't understand. So let me clarify. LG signed a letter of intent which is different from actual contrats, in the loi it was said that they would sign a contract two weeks after signing the loi. But they didn't, and they avoid it. However the LG org kept it's end of the bargain and started paying new salaries even without LG members having signing said contracts. Then LG members called SK to LA and talked about signing a contract with them after the end of the actual contract they have with LG (they didn't sign the contract said in the loi) which ends in July 1st. Summary: *LG org hand the loi for LG players to sign. They sign it. In the loi it is stated that they have to sign a contract two weeks after. They don't sign. *SK approach LG players with an offer. LG player start to discuss the offer. *LG players ask SK to come to LA to explain the offer face to face. *LG players sign with SK. *After the major or wtf was going on with the guilt that players felt after stabbing buyakka in the back they decide to not go to SK.(22 days of time passed since they signed) *Both LG org and players start to put the blame on SK for no reason at all except maybe their own stupidity. *Reading all of the points above you can conclude LG players are not loyal, not smart and absolutely cowards. ***TLDR: LG players signed with LG org but did not respect the terms in the loi. Then they signed with SK and did not respect the terms in the contract. Now they want to stay in LG.
2016-06-01 18:11
That's what I try to say but I think LG didn't gave them the Contracts within 2 Weeks So they should just play for SK r8?
2016-06-01 22:50
Yep, i posted this on FalleN twitter and he banned me. He's a great CS player. But a fucktard of a person.
2016-06-02 01:46
#510
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
if one day u get thousands ppl sending msg for u talkingshit.. let me know what would u do
2016-06-02 01:57
Oh get real, if you can't take criticism for shit you know you did then wtf are you doing on social media? What baffles me the most is the DENIAL that FalleN himself along with some stupid fans that doesn't seem to understand that the actions he took was coward, unloyal and extremely stupid.
2016-06-03 18:08
#520
felps | 
Brazil Fr4m3 
ok keyboard warrior
2016-06-03 22:19
k FalleN fan. go suck his balls if you can't argue.
2016-06-09 09:51
heaton left it after making shit tone of money from those shady deals. heaton probably was one of the main reasons for shady deals back then
2016-05-29 23:05
What, he didn't even get paid all his price money from SK, get your facts straight. youtube.com/watch?v=AcqXjVVpuS0 3:25
2016-05-29 23:12
then your just a dumb boy who only knows shit from videos
2016-05-30 22:08
I know from many sources that SK is a joke, HeatoN and potti being on of them.
2016-05-30 23:36
Are you a single state?
2016-05-29 12:38
ofc, that's true
2016-05-29 14:38
fu favela org
2016-05-29 12:35
#240
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Denmark BrthBrth 
LG and Fallen fucked up this time!
2016-05-29 14:54
oh you are still alive, hi
2016-05-29 15:53
I disagree, this whole situation seems a bit fishy. None of the media is giving SK any side to the story and it's all LG replying to the Media. From the sound of it back in February LG players had signed a letter on intent to the organization of LG. Now the LG players were not happy with what the LG org and what they were giving them BEFORE THE MAJOR (in terms of money) So they contacted SK who would were willing to give a better salary and legal protection from Luminosity org, the reason Legal Protection was there is in case Luminosity org decided to take action against the players upon getting out of the letter of intent (A letter of intent is what you intend to do) so it is not final and is not the same as a contract. Anyways, LG players before the major were not actually under the LG Banner, they were intending to but the LG org did not actually own the LG players who had actually signed a contract with SK a month earlier. When Duncan "Thoorin" Shields a big eSports analyst made a video about this, he spoke to SK Leader the one who had been in contact with the LG players, his name is Alex Muller. Alex Muller had said that the LG players were very eager to get out of the LG organization and wanted to sign with SK as fast as possible in order to get SK salary and everything. So after the LG players win the major the prize money actually goes to Luminosity Org. The players only get half, and then the org gets half (Some % close to that) so then after the major the LG players who were so willing and eager to leave the LG organization and sign with SK all of a sudden are all happy with LG and no longer want to go with SK. Why? It is because LG players were scared that the LG organization would not pay the players the major prize money that they owed the players. Now LG players realize they have fucked up because they just signed a contract with SK two weeks earlier. That maybe LG after getting this big sum of money would pay the players a better salary than Sk. So they decide to fuck SK in the ass and turn their backs on them and make a bunch of lies to try influence the media against SK when really they are just trying to cover up the bullshit this really is. Overall SK should own the LG players, and LG org has said that SK actually were "threatening" and "bribing" the LG players to sign with SK when if you think about it, it's just not true. LG have actually got LG players by the balls and are bribing them to stay and not leave. So SK are in the right, they did not try and steal players from LG, because at the time when LG players signed with SK, LG org never owned them. So SK are in the right and we may see a huge court case July 1st when SK threaten to take legal action against LG players if they do not go under the SK banner by July 1st Thank you
2016-05-29 17:10
Did you research this on your own or copy Thorin's video word for word? Whatever Thorin/Lurpis say is correct I guess lol!
2016-05-29 17:30
I am reiterating there point, now its is not word for word but what they are saying i believe is correct, and I encourage everyone to go watch there videos, I think it is bizarre what is happening.
2016-05-29 17:36
#350
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Germany s2ily 
Ok, from this point of view and depending on SK's statement it could be right. I think SK are not releasing a statement because the investigation is still underway. Means, this story is not finished yet.
2016-05-29 18:12
#380
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Germany Rubixx 
nice job explaining sk's side really important most people just see lgs pov
2016-05-29 19:32
i agreee! and im stealing your comment. We should get this all over hltv so we can at least give people some perspective. Fight for SK <3333333333333333333333 and yes i know its not a danish org.
2016-05-29 20:01
good?! he's morality is so impaired that is shocking. if he just said we just wanted more money that would be nothing wrong with it. but he keep saying about ethics, jet he's action showing no regards to it whatsoever. he knew it's wrong, he feel's bad about it jet he is doing it. how dare you speak about principles if you are govern by none m8. with this statement he dug even bigger hole for himself. sk is running a business and wanted to sign better players. absolutely nothing wrong with it. LOI is not valid as it wasn't followed up with proper contract within 14 days. sk contacted 2 layers to confirm that!!! before offering them contracts. I do hope we see Brazilians in sk gaming in July or we not see them at all for next 2 years. there is enough scum bags in community already. I'm immensely disappointed by Fallen. I would expect more from him.
2016-05-29 20:51
#417
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Portugal alheiro 
hey my friend yvr what about ur knife on c9 vs lg? xD
2016-05-29 22:46
#438
United States yvr 
GG mr MUTiRiS boy
2016-05-30 01:37
#472
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Australia starpyur 
Mate Fallen dose not know how hard Americans come down on you for doing dirty crap like ignoring contracts. Thorin pointed out that S.K made a legit deal and LG are not being true about it
2016-05-30 14:12
n1 statement
2016-06-02 07:53
n1 fallen
2016-05-29 12:35
n1 fallen? he's a lying scum. and hltv are retards. said nothing about this but they present statement of fallen. it's like they did with pita's charity.
2016-05-29 13:59
#190
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Germany Rubixx 
he didnt have any contact with sk (besides that one small mail) but signed a contract seems legit
2016-05-29 14:08
#202
shox | 
Luxembourg tr1gg3r 
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies. Exptected a statement like that, to make himself the victim of the situation instead of admitting he fucked up
2016-05-29 14:19
Did u read the thing ?!.... he admitted many times, that he fucked up,and he's the one to blame.... lol
2016-05-29 15:14
he blame sk most of the time lel
2016-05-29 18:13
He also said he never replied to Alex again. But later he stated after his teammates spoke to SK, he replied to them aswell...(ok could not be with alex but with someone else, but I think Alex was the one talking to them the most.) edit: Even his sentence about "Tortuous Interference". It isn`t fucking illegal in esports. And as I am aware of is mostly only a law in the US. Also SK had contracts for LG to sign which beginn 1.7 when their contracts should run out. SO no harm there. Their little LOI is not a valid point to say they interfered wrongfully into LG`s"contract".
2016-05-29 14:28
#279
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Germany Rubixx 
yeah in lol where they have one league that controls everything they got rules (sorry i had to bring a browser game into this) - there it is illigal but in cs there are no rules which define that... but since it was for the 1.7 it doesnt matter anyway
2016-05-29 15:23
so the dumb favelas say they only talked to sk one time through email before signing their contracts with them and all they said was to talk to lgs org and not them. ye ok hahahahahaha grats germany on acquiring top1 team world but can we have niko now since u don't need him anymore
2016-05-29 15:03
#280
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Germany Rubixx 
all lies my friend we will see if they switch to sk no we need niko so that we have atleast one good team
2016-05-29 15:24
if they already signed the contract with sk then gl to them getting out of it
2016-05-29 15:50
#379
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Germany Rubixx 
yeah they try to crie their way out of it -hope it wont help
2016-05-29 19:31
#277
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World leraq 
Contracts were signed. And Fallen wanted nothing to do with Luminosity org + wanted out before the Luminosity contracts end. Get you head out of you arse.
2016-05-29 15:20
#282
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Germany Rubixx 
u mad?then why didnt he go to sk?
2016-05-29 15:25
Interesting
2016-05-29 12:35
lol
2016-05-29 12:35
ay
2016-05-29 12:35
#15
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Russia Reph 
SK drama
2016-05-29 12:35
GG
2016-05-29 12:35
SK stickers pls
2016-05-29 12:35
yes, lg sucks
2016-05-29 13:22
#307
swag | 
Brazil 1aa 
+1 my graphite will be beautiful with 4 SK foil
2016-05-29 15:57
M0N3Y T4LK$
2016-05-29 12:35
#124
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Spain thinkii 
i speak fluent
2016-05-29 13:11
in Spain? I arent think that
2016-05-29 13:17
#405
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Spain thinkii 
rekt :(
2016-05-29 21:46
+128 Billion €
2016-05-30 05:24
M0N(K)3Y T4LK$*
2016-05-29 13:24
lold
2016-05-29 13:38
+1
2016-05-29 14:35
xd
2016-06-02 07:54
oh god guys...
2016-05-29 12:35
#25
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Canada mattyfinch 
i do a much better job than Striker on this. Holla HLTV, you need some real reporters. hltv.org/blog/11937-sk-vs-lg-20-the-stat.. BTW, Fallen can barely form proper sentences in most of this statement, but was able to write this - "What we didn't realize was that the move made by Alex and SK was actually something called "Tortuous Interference", which is illegal not only in sports" NT Buyaka.
2016-05-29 12:37
#67
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Austria Jooooooni 
+1 good read, even tough it took time but worth
2016-05-29 12:45
#76
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Canada mattyfinch 
Anything worth doing, is worth doing right, right? in my defense, I did make a TL DR ;)
2016-05-29 12:49
#85
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Austria Jooooooni 
i r8 your logic 8/8 m8 ye, but most of the time reading everything is better to understand all aspects
2016-05-29 12:54
the TL DR is too long im waiting for a TL DR or the initial TL DR
2016-05-29 15:18
#274
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Canada mattyfinch 
point #7 in my TLDR - This TLDR is long. But its in point form. If you can't read it, consult a physician legally licensed to aid you in commiting assisted suicide.
2016-05-29 15:19
tl dr
2016-05-29 15:40
#293
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Canada mattyfinch 
t1 troll.
2016-05-29 15:40
#82
FalleN | 
Brazil KyungDt 
That wasn't even Striker's job. AS a journalist you can't just rip-off others work like it means nothing. How does that make you a better journalist? lol
2016-05-29 12:53
#90
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Canada mattyfinch 
Who did i rip off exactly? I wrote that blog hours ago, long before this was posted. and my first blog which was incredibly similar to Thorins video on the topic was posted 12 hours before his video was.
2016-05-29 12:56
#98
FalleN | 
Brazil KyungDt 
Yeah i know you did, and it is a great blog, even though i disagree with some arts because you put your perspective of it on the blog (I'm not sure if that's how it works but who am I) Well yeah sorry I thought you implied that they needed the full thing on HLTV, my bad. Still, I don't see a reason to do what you did on the frontpage since you represent the org (HLTV) and not only yourself, so your opinion must be HLTV's opinion.
2016-05-29 13:00
#107
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Canada mattyfinch 
My point is that not only are they 2 days late at even mentioning the Situation, HLTV missed the mark by provided exactly nothing new. The essentially took the same mock up found on various other sites who were hours quicker to the story, re arranged some of the words, and pasted it onto the main page. It just lacks effort and attention dont you think? they don't even propose a position or opinion. Do you really come here to read stuff you've already read hours earlier?
2016-05-29 13:04
Sure, you're right on that, but I don't think they should give any side on this right now since there's a lot of gray areas that we think we know, but probably we don't. Buyaka can be the best or the worst owner and we just can't tell because the situation made everyone defensive and most of what's coming now are pointers to blame others. If anything, a opinion post should be like what Nomad did for WESA, not on front-page and after the facts were all presented. I don't think we can jump into conclusions as of now, even though the whole community already has.
2016-05-29 13:07
#130
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Canada mattyfinch 
I like to live by the principal that actions always speak louder than words. The players actions, those being to welcome Sk's offer, negotiate, sign the deal, all while being completely secretive about it, speak much louder than their "heart felt" statements filled with guilt and click bait. When you pile on the fun fact that they also neglected to give Buyaka the decency to counter the SK offer prior to signing it, it becomes very clear that the issues here were very deep and troubling. Its almost a guarantee that Buyaka would have matched the offer, or sold the team to a willing buyer had he been given the chance ahead of the contracts being signed. If LG and Fallen truly wanted the communities understanding or support, they would show us the respect we deserve by being upfront, honest, and aware of the issue at hand. They are playing political grant standing and parlor tricks in hopes of persuading enough of us to their side that someone who assumes they have a say in the matter takes their side.
2016-05-29 13:14
If you think HLTV have any journalists you are delusional.
2016-05-29 13:58
#181
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Canada mattyfinch 
I used the term Journalist loosely.
2016-05-29 13:59
ah, ok, sorry then. hltv is only doing biased things. did nothing with pita's charity but presented pita's statement full of lies; said nothing about this but presented fallen's statement full of lies. this is also related with the rage posts against WESA by Hltv owners via twitter and hltv-blogs. they also relate sk with wesa because of sk-gaming founder and that's another reason they did this. by all means they can't be called journalists. they have nothing to do with this profession. if i patch a wound im not a doctor.
2016-05-29 14:02
#189
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Canada mattyfinch 
I couldn't agree more. Keep in mind though, good work usually costs money. HLTV has a history of losing anyone and everyone they've touched who showed even the slightest talent, likely due to not wanting to pay fairly for the work. Any Chimp can copy paste twitter posts with lead ins and time stamps. :)
2016-05-29 14:05
They had lurpiss. He didn't left because of the money but because of the overriding interests on many articles. I made the charity investigation about pita and believe me I was hunted down by 99% of the hltv "journalists" and admins. rage twiter posts and so forth.
2016-05-29 14:16
#276
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Canada mattyfinch 
Just be glad this isnt Bandladesh, or you would have been hacked to death in the streets a long time ago. :)
2016-05-29 15:20
#27
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Kazakhstan Tarob 
RIP LG ??? new SK ???
2016-05-29 12:36
wow you didnt even bother to go to a daily dot to read full statement, didn't you?
2016-05-29 13:39
"cya on court"
2016-05-29 15:00
fallen is such a bullshitter
2016-05-29 12:36
agree but "the good guy" Kappa
2016-05-29 12:47
Finally a comment that makes sense on this shitty website infested with favelas. The LG players are at fault, not SK.
2016-05-29 12:56
agreed.
2016-05-29 16:29
indeed, you signed the contracterino fallen, now get your shit together favelas
2016-05-29 18:43
It's not fallens fault. Luminosity has their prize money from Columbus and threatens not to give it to them unless the players do as the org wants.
2016-05-29 14:02
he is stupid, he didnt even give luminosity the chance to match the contract that SK gave them, so its his fault, how can you say it isnt.
2016-05-29 14:03
Maybe they didn't want to play for lum. It's their choice in the end of the day. When the contract ends they are free to go wherever they want. Even if they sign the new contract before the last one ends.
2016-05-29 14:16
read the statement pls, he says the opposite
2016-05-29 14:30
The statement is not written by fallen you complete moron. It is written by the org.
2016-05-29 14:36
And of course they would say the opposite, wouldn't they.
2016-05-29 14:36
twitter.com/LG_FalleN/status/73681347252.. Here is mine and my teammates official response to recently problems we got in and how it all happened no need to insult me keyboard warrior
2016-05-29 14:39
The org owner told them to write that, isn't it obvious? The org has their money and forces them to whatever it wants.
2016-05-29 14:45
Lemme guess, half the pro players are cheaters, right?
2016-05-29 14:57
You report on this but not on the controversy itself. Nice one, HLTV
2016-05-29 12:36
Fucking drama again, just solve your issues without going all public and trigger the reddit faggotry.
2016-05-29 12:36
#84
FalleN | 
Brazil KyungDt 
This can't just be hidden since someone is going to get punished sooner or later, one org or even the players probably just fucked themselves by this decision.
2016-05-29 12:54
LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE
2016-05-29 12:36
#32
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
where being... doesn't matter 1st FalleN! We always smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
2016-05-29 12:37
We are lie, we are rape, we are steal, we are from BRA71L
2016-05-29 12:39
You know he is fakeflaggin right?
2016-05-29 12:46
He's not
2016-05-29 15:05
But remember Fallen the best man in the world Kappa
2016-05-29 12:48
#119
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United Kingdom Areashi 
Too true, I heard he cured cancer too.
2016-05-29 13:09
You say that as if it's hard.
2016-05-29 13:51
#263
cogu | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
we eat, we cheat, we are from FLUSHIL
2016-05-29 15:14
#33
flusha | 
Czech Republic DJachym 
Hahaha what a retard
2016-05-29 12:36
?
2016-05-31 06:01
he is telling bullshits. That's all
2016-05-31 06:03
Not so loyal no BRAZIL? We poor We need money We not loyal We from BRA7-1L
2016-05-29 12:36
pretty sure that when ppl say LG Loyal they are referring to the players nobody cares about the org.
2016-05-29 13:53
#35
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
Sk is known to fuck shit up
2016-05-29 12:36
=DD=
2016-05-29 12:36
#37
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Portugal Ballsaq 
He is obviously not telling the truth. he uses his " good publicity " to lie all in your face
2016-05-29 12:37
#60
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Canada mattyfinch 
+1 over half of this statement was either written by, or dictated by Steve Buyaka. Its so fucking blatant in certain spots that you really need to question just how stupid Steve is, or to what level they all disrespect us as a community, and our level of intelligence.
2016-05-29 12:41
why do u think they need this obviously high intelligence-possessing community's respect XXDD
2016-05-29 12:59
#100
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Canada mattyfinch 
Outside of the simple fact that our attention is what allows them to continue making a paycheck? Nothing.
2016-05-29 13:01
Man it's just good man Kappa
2016-05-29 12:49
#38
Sweden JAMV 
Doubt the LG players would like to play with SK after this.
2016-05-29 12:37
#78
Germany mkai 
their own fault
2016-05-29 12:50
SK is the one losing with this though. SK approached them in the wrong way and now are causing damages to themselves and the players. Just unprofessionalism from both sides. Kind of pathetic to see this sort of shit happening. I hope SK gets fucked.
2016-05-29 19:09
I hope fallen gets fucked
2016-05-29 19:21
SK is gonna get a bunch of money from LG, I'd consider that winning Not their fault that LG players are too moronic to understand the shit they were putting themselves into
2016-05-29 22:52
its their fault they are greedy fucks and signed contract. now SK will fuck them in the arse like they always do
2016-05-29 13:57
Well I kinda hope so now. LG players wanted to go to SK and WANTED PROTECTION against LG. Now they stay with LG and Fallens statement is fishy as fuck. Now SK has no team but a signed contract... If the players wanted to sttay loyal all the time, why not before signing to sk....
2016-05-29 14:31
WE SMART, WE DISLOYAL, WE FROM BRAZIL
2016-05-29 12:37
#40
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United Kingdom Weldo 
Everyone thinks fallen is some kind of nice guy,now im glad something finally disproves it
2016-05-29 12:37
???? What does this have anything to do with it?? Holy shit what an nonsense comment lol
2016-05-29 15:07
#256
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United Kingdom Weldo 
Nt nt
2016-05-29 15:09
#42
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Brazil RisenNTC 
they fucked up, move on
2016-05-29 12:37
#44
Slovakia mkII 
money money money must be funny in a cs world...
2016-05-29 12:38
I love fallen but he fucked up big time, at this point I just want more drama.
2016-05-29 12:38
I'm a huge fan of him... But he's lost a fair amount of my respect on this matter. Even without all of the bullshit*, the thing that mad me angry was the fact he blames his teammates (partially) but puts himself in a better light. That's not what a proper leader and friend does. Take the blame mate. Also, I've lost even more respect for Steve Maida. *FalleN, just a hint if you happen to see this, tell the truth ASAP even if it makes you look bad. People would respect you a lot more for admitting you fucked up than the situation now where you are probably not telling the absolute truth and when it comes out you will look a lot worse. At least in the former situation people will respect you as an honest person, even if they think you've done something bad.
2016-05-29 16:19
bla bla bla ape wants more money bla bla bla
2016-05-29 12:38
+1
2016-05-29 12:39
#266
cogu | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
yeahhh NA money baby... you guys are too incompetent for it
2016-05-29 15:16
nt fallen
2016-05-29 12:38
Fuck SK anyway, what a shitty org
2016-05-29 12:39
newfag spotted
2016-05-29 12:40
lol, u are the newfag, sk always been a shitty or even back in 1.6 days when they stole money to HeatoN and Potti
2016-05-29 12:44
stfu newfag
2016-05-29 12:44
ok go back to bed kid
2016-05-29 12:44
he's right, SK always been retarded. Remember 1.6 times and probably late 2014 when they fucked up Maikelele and Emilio (RIP)
2016-05-29 14:04
favela
2016-05-29 12:39
#53
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Portugal hkbA 
nt
2016-05-29 12:39
FalleN trying to cover his ass.
2016-05-29 12:39
you are so smart!!!!
2016-05-29 13:00
favela lawyer
2016-05-29 12:40
nt
2016-05-29 12:41
Fallen that weak as pussy
2016-05-29 12:42
full of so much shit.
2016-05-29 12:43
the contract didnt include a coder, simple as that.
2016-05-29 12:45
what a fucking idiot.
2016-05-29 12:46
who the fuck cares? i hope he just retires.
2016-05-29 12:46
#70
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Germany SchaffeR37 
Close pls.. Court will tell us who is right so stfu pls
2016-05-29 12:46
why did u sign the contract then? $_$
2016-05-29 12:48
disqualify Luminosity and SK from ELeague give spot (rightfully) to TyLoo, give them time for visas this time and next spot to Tempo Storm
2016-05-29 12:48
nt dogeater
2016-05-29 13:00
TyLoo gave up because of visas, LG already competed so no one can legimately pick their spot since it implies the new team is just as good as LG was. Tempo / TyLoo aren't even top NA, so the situation isn't this simple. Btw it's a clear bait but this isn't a good place for it since i think it's kinda serious at this point.
2016-05-29 13:04
They could just give the spot to C9 and let renegades get the second place in that group. easy ;) I don't see the point in doing so, but the option will always be there.
2016-05-29 13:20
Now i dont believe that the Brasilians are loyal, after seeing them signing a contract behind their Org. for more money. And after winning the major, LG Org offered them more money and they decided to stay, this has nothing to do with loyalty :P
2016-05-29 12:49
exactly
2016-05-29 14:59
More bullshit to keep everyones mind off of the ridiculous amount of pro players cheating..
2016-05-29 12:51
so do something about it
2016-05-29 13:01
wtf do you think a random hltv user can do about pro players cheating?
2016-05-29 13:15
something other than bitching while doing nothing and pointing fingers would be great
2016-05-30 03:16
#126
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Sweden FiffylaureN 
The amount of stupidity of this one sentence is off the fucking charts
2016-05-29 13:11
I guess i have alot more in my life. I dont need to worry about grammar and spelling. Its like sanding wood...you only have to do it for obsessive compulsive people.
2016-05-29 21:25
#399
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Sweden FiffylaureN 
I think you misunderstood. I don't care about your grammar but what you said was really fucking retarded..
2016-05-29 21:27
Well then you are smaller than i thought if you think noone is cheating in the professional scene. Its fact that people will do anything for money. Especially in 3rd world. Get real.
2016-05-29 21:28
#401
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Sweden FiffylaureN 
I don't believe there are many cheaters in the pro scene who do this for a living because of the high security levels in tournaments (LANs atleast) and that it would be a career wasting move if they were ever caught. CS is like a dream job and after a while you're just THAT good. The semi-pro scene is a different story though.
2016-05-29 21:33
nt Buyaka lmao
2016-05-29 12:51
#SKLOYAL HYPE
2016-05-29 12:54
"uhhh sk tricked us" lmao ok kid
2016-05-29 12:55
#87
kNgV- | 
World CA1MAN 
Watch the Video by Thorin. You'll see more clear then. FalleN fucked up big time
2016-05-29 12:55
Thorin himself said in the video that you can probably argue that he is biased to SK, and he is assuming that Buyaka is the wrong on this. I'm not saying Buyaka is any good, but we just don't know.
2016-05-29 13:09
#125
kNgV- | 
World CA1MAN 
We really don't know but by now I think SK is in the right. They have hard facts and what they say makes a lot more sense. Though Thorin was employed he said he is not connected in any way so I assume what he told us is the blank truth
2016-05-29 13:11
I agree. Hes really good at collecting the Information and approaching These from different perspectives, so You can make your own opinion on things.
2016-05-29 15:06
#89
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World Derpyyy 
This is bullshit I used to respect Fallen but now I see what a cunt he is
2016-05-29 12:56
Wtf??? Why is he a cunt by being pushed by his teammates?? How stupid are you?
2016-05-29 15:10
#92
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Germany nadero 
"goodguy" fallen, the (un-)official ambassador of csgo is trying to save his face ;)
2016-05-29 12:57
"trying to save his face" he said that "We definitely made a mistake there and we are the only ones to blame." how is he trying to save his face if he is taking the blame?
2016-05-29 13:59
#272
cogu | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
rekt by #180
2016-05-29 15:18
we loyal xDDDDDDDDdd
2016-05-29 12:57
all three sides in this conflict (players, lg, sk) are in this for profit and two of them (players and sk) did stupid shit. if players can prove that sk lied to them about contract that may help a bit, but they did sign two conflicting contracts so imo theyre fucked expected stupid decisions from arrogant cheaters.
2016-05-29 12:58
Germans! Nuff said !
2016-05-29 12:59
My people is so dumb :'(
2016-05-29 13:01
Germans trying to slave other people, nothing new. 4Head
2016-05-29 13:02
#144
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Germany TiwaZ 
Brazilians getting used as slaves, nothing new. 4Head
2016-05-29 13:24
Good history class bro...
2016-05-29 13:37
Germans getting rekt in wars/battles guns, nothing new. 4head
2016-05-30 03:53
Sad for SK.
2016-05-29 13:03
ez 4 sk anyway
2016-05-29 13:03
Cant w8 for SK sticker BOYZZZ
2016-05-29 13:06
#309
swag | 
Brazil 1aa 
+1
2016-05-29 15:59
Even if he is lying, he has a reason to. Everyone is trying to get up his shirt and he has no breathing space
2016-05-29 13:06
good ol SK
2016-05-29 13:08
Nice to see that brazillians here (at least on the news site) dont agree with FalleN
2016-05-29 13:09
Well you can't agree when it's a clear fuck up. But it is really easy to fakeflag since BRs have such a bad reputation.
2016-05-29 13:10
We dumb, we disloyal, we toxic, we are from BRA71L
2016-05-29 13:09
i can say the same to your country without brasil
2016-05-29 13:52
we talking about bra71l not russia, you fkn high? oh yea you are, sorry
2016-05-29 14:09
yes i am but russian guys are also dumb disloyal and toxic
2016-05-29 15:13
so are people from your CUNTry who also blaze while playing
2016-05-29 15:17
and thats not that bad like russians in team no one likes them
2016-05-29 15:19
people secretly like them cuz they bring joy if they are happy ruskis
2016-05-29 15:21
if the russians are funny its alright but most of them are flaming and talk shit that you are so bad but hes bottom fragging
2016-05-29 15:25
fak enough, stop spamming my inbox
2016-05-29 15:26
no
2016-05-29 15:26
rip inbox
2016-05-29 15:27
yes
2016-05-29 15:27
dirty favela corrupt rapist culture, you can't trust any of them
2016-05-29 13:10
I dont know who has right in this question.. But what i do know is that this is not the first time SK-Gaming is involved in some shit or bigger headlines. I hope most of you understands what a fucking trash org SK-Gaming is and has always been. There are interviews back in the days from 1.6 with HeatoN and potti stating they had problems getting salary, got mistreated etc 'Legendary organisation' my ass.
2016-05-29 13:14
SK still owes alot of their former 1.6 players money. So does mTw. "legendary" organizations back then were fucking shitty.
2016-05-29 13:21
Yeah, just because they have been around for long doesn't mean they're legendary or something. I still remember when they stole gtr and forest from fnatic back in 1.6.
2016-05-29 13:22
Youre definitely right,but guess what: esports has Big money involved now so dont expect everyone to play fair. I dont like what SK did,but since cs has no rules when it Comes to poaching Players under contract they acted kinda smart and will probably make profit from it
2016-05-29 15:12
its so obvious that fallen isnt telling the truth here. he doesnt even explain why his teammates wanted to leave lg besides money, there had to be more reasons. plus there are all these rumors about lg owner not paying the mayor money and threatening to release players.
2016-05-29 13:13
Apparently they signed with SK before the major, so there wasn't any major money prize to be paied!
2016-05-29 13:21
But if they signed with SK before the major doesn't the prize money belong to SK gaming then?
2016-05-29 14:14
No because they signed to start to play for SK by 1st july!
2016-05-29 15:07
Got it, right. So what do you think will happen? LG to SK confirmed?
2016-05-29 15:08
I dont think they will play for SK, but I guess they will maybe be forced to pay some contract-breach or something!!
2016-05-29 15:10
They played under LG and when you "sign up" for the major they take abunch of info which belongs to LG like the name of the receiver for the money would be steve prob
2016-05-29 15:14
LGLOYAL Kappa :D:D:D
2016-05-29 13:14
#134
kNgV- | 
Libya Autista 
full of bullshit
2016-05-29 13:19
One point I still can't understand: If the players and LG owner are like a family like they say, why the players didn't asked LG org for a counter-offer or something before sign to SK?
2016-05-29 13:20
enchanted to sign contracts lol
2016-05-29 13:22
If Fallen did a little research Tortious Interference doesn't really apply. Plus why where they looking for new contracts in the first place. I would say LG org is holding a lot of money from their players.
2016-05-29 13:23
#143
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Germany TiwaZ 
2016-05-29 13:24
+1
2016-05-29 13:29
Its so dumb that pros have to google legal terms instead of getting an agency to represent them. I know agents are as greedy as fuck, but if they did have an agent this wouldn't have happened fallen.
2016-05-29 13:25
The manager should atleast know legal terms and that guy also signed with SK... FalleN lost my respect for sure. Great player, but he is dumb as fuck.
2016-05-29 13:35
Believe it or not, this happens on daily basis even in football. Professional CS/Football any other sports didn't finish their education therefore they wouldn't know the things that you or i know they pursued cs since an early age. Every Athlete that is getting paid should have an agent he trust. But NOT HIS FATHER! - Most footballers that have their parents as agents get into trouble, Neymar/messi tax evasion for example. I highly doubt their manager knows anything about the legal aspects of contracts. Considering not so long ago he threatened a player to murder him in a social media platform.
2016-05-29 13:45
Oh ye, i forgot about that :D their manager ain't the smartest person himself after all. IMO a manager for a team should know legal terms, no question. I agree that a parent never should be the agent for their child.
2016-05-29 13:54
You are the one who signed the contract. None forced you to do so...
2016-05-29 13:25
In what... 15 or so years of CS, SK has done this many times. I don't really see how can anyone believe SK legal machinery anymore, Alex Muller has done this kind of things for a living. The LG players should have been aware of that and approached the dude with a lawyer.
2016-05-29 13:26
What's gonna happen after 1st July?
2016-05-29 13:27
Nobody carries about cheaters.
2016-05-29 13:29
i dont see why they think its more important to honour an unsigned contract over a signed contract? we understand that he might have fucked up, but he should admit he fucked up and stand by his decision.
2016-05-29 13:33
#157
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Germany SchaffeR37 
they tricked us we are stupid not our fault
2016-05-29 13:34
#159
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Portugal dracø 
massive cluster fuck fallen, there's no way around this. You fucked up =X
2016-05-29 13:36
Damage control is always so cringy to read.
2016-05-29 13:37
first u sign a new contract cause u see $$$ and than say SK forced u and ur team lol greedy ppl
2016-05-29 13:38
we are stupid we sign contract for money we lie about it we are dishonest we are from bra71l
2016-05-29 13:42
that hurts mate
2016-05-29 15:17
Players f*cked up by singing that contract.. but i dont understand one thing, why would SK want to keep them as their team? Players that arent happy, and dont want to play for certain organization.. wont play at their best, thats for sure. I understand that money is big factor in all of this, but you cant expect that team wins big tournaments for you and be 100% by head in game, if they dont want to play for your organization.. its basicly a lose - lose situation if SK wins and forces them to play.
2016-05-29 13:48
Its a win win situation for SK. Either they gain one of the best teams of the world. Even when LG Players slumps after this, they are still Top 5 in a slump. If it goes to a legal conflict, SK will make 1 Million $ without any payments to the team.
2016-05-29 13:51
#239
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Italy Div-\ 
The fact is that in reality LG players WANT to play for SK. Now they are whining about it because they fucked up the situation by going behind lg's back, but they are just doing it not to piss out their fans too much...(which is quite stupid if you ask me, cause it's obvious that they were well aware of doing so).
2016-05-29 14:54
They were aware what they were doing, i have no doubt. But i still believe Fallen when he says that they realized it was a mistake.. If i understood well, by reading all he wrote, there is nothing stoping them to play for SK after 1. July.. but they want to stay with LG. They made a mistake, and basicly now they have three options. Either play under SK, or pay big fines. Third option is some loop in law.. if it exist and if their lawyer can use it.
2016-05-29 15:25
Not cool, FalleN.
2016-05-29 13:48
esport drama kek
2016-05-29 13:52
sk will fuck anyone else in the ass if the opportunity present itself like they did with tentpole, gux and so many more
2016-05-29 13:59
Next Week: LG players and SK Gaming org banned for 1 year pls
2016-05-29 14:05
lmao...*signs contract with organization* "me dumb brazilian, me didn't know I had to honor it!" LMAO' Fuck Fallen.
2016-05-29 14:10
LOOOL
2016-05-29 18:12
+1.. I just signed the contract because I had me a pen.
2016-05-30 13:01
Lost an LG fan right here
2016-05-29 14:14
#196
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Turkey powergs 
hahaha fak this Brazilians pls SK and we can get rid of retarded favelas
2016-05-29 14:15
Why is it that whatever SK touches turns to shit? What a pathetic excuse for an eSports organization...
2016-05-29 14:18
if you're solely gonna blame SK for this tho... you're a fucking imbecile
2016-05-29 14:22
If you would pay attention while reading, you would quickly realize that I made no such claim.
2016-05-29 14:25
well what you wrote clearly implies that
2016-05-29 14:26
too bad :/
2016-05-29 14:26
it takes two to tango in shit.
2016-05-29 22:08
#201
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World RA71M 
i didnt read the statement but what i understand that lg player sign a contract with sk org while they r under contract with lg right ? so it is obv fallen and his teamates fault
2016-05-29 14:18
It's SK fault too if those were really proper contracts. Since that's illegal and can't be really done. You can't be under 2 contracts at the same time i think. It had must been pre-contract with right of full signing as soon as LG contract expire. And that is ok from SK. Biggest problem here is FalleN and all his sh** about contracts and how he didn't know what is he signing.
2016-05-29 17:13
You know that the SK's contract tells that brazilians be part of SK since 1st July?
2016-05-29 19:03
Yeah i know all the details. What's the problem?
2016-05-29 19:56
So, they're not under two contracts m8.
2016-05-29 19:56
"It's SK fault too if those were really proper contracts. Since that's illegal and can't be really done. You can't be under 2 contracts at the same time i think. It had must been pre-contract with right of full signing as soon as LG contract expire. And that is ok from SK." As i said here, i believe those were only pre-contracts so that SK org have primal rights to sign those players as soon as there LG contract expire.
2016-05-29 21:52
On 2 years, when LG contract expires (New contract signed on December 2015) Cheers bro
2016-05-29 21:53
No. There isn't a new contract. They are under an old LG contract until 1st of July this year. There was LOI signed in Dec last year, but LG org broke it. Since they didn't offer new contract to Brasilian team in 2 weeks that they had as a period in that LOI. That doesn't mean that LG org will not offer new contract to the team, but if they deny they will be available to join other org starting from 1st of July 2016.
2016-05-29 22:15
Lose faith to Fallen and co. Let's see what happen on 1st July
2016-05-29 14:22
i feel like the sk manager is a complete tool
2016-05-29 14:23
what does that make Buyaka then?
2016-05-29 14:24
SK is famous for being scamming and scumbag organization... nothing new here
2016-05-29 14:25
signed contract. act like victim. WTF
2016-05-29 14:26
indeed
2016-05-29 14:27
#245
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World leraq 
+1 pretentious greedy kids, afraid to lose their money cause fcked up
2016-05-29 15:00
+1
2016-05-29 16:07
so are they gonna play for SK or LG after july 1st??
2016-05-29 14:27
#393
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Austria punkyx18 
must wait and see.
2016-05-29 20:28
alright, ty
2016-05-29 20:29
if this goes to court it's gonna be a landslide for SK don't even try to convince yourself otherwise
2016-05-29 14:28
I must be in brazil cos I smell bullshit
2016-05-29 14:32
#220
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Spain akproxx 
Sk is shit since years ago Dunno why they sign that contract xd
2016-05-29 14:33
fucking greedy favela boys
2016-05-29 14:38
#229
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Italy Div-\ 
Who is FalleN try to fool exactly? Everyone that with a normal IQ realizes that they were WELL aware of what they were doing, it is completely useful trying to seem naive now. They acted like immature pricks and did things behind the back of their organization, N1.
2016-05-29 14:41
#232
ZELIN | 
Portugal revzz 
+1. It's probably that LG org still holds the prize pool for the tournements won thats why fallen now regrets sign for sk
2016-05-29 14:47
#233
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Italy Div-\ 
Plus another thing I did not like is that he blames his teammates for contacting SK by themselves. Man grow up, YOU are the team captain, they are your mates, YOU have to be well aware of what the heck they are doing.
2016-05-29 14:48
In Game Leader =/= In Real Life Leader
2016-05-30 15:50
#478
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Italy Div-\ 
He acts as if he was tho.
2016-05-30 16:06
Lol. Nice bullshit statement.
2016-05-29 14:50
3rd world countries need better education systems
2016-05-29 14:50
I'm from a shithole and i would realize that i'm shitting Buyaka signing contract with other organization.. this is traition.
2016-05-29 19:05
Very interesting developments. As a CS fan and an eSports fan in general in over 10 years, I've seen drama but this one feels like major front page scandal. Like the Lance Armstrong doping fiasco. Just not as extreme. Has the hype that something bad is gonna happen. I do wonder what the next move is for each party and how badly this affects the players. Anyone else feel the same?
2016-05-29 14:53
i would trust thoriiins video more then this shit.... no body talks about that SK actually did. I am pretty sure LG is keeping their money so that whenever they talk about this they can just point at them with their money and say this and that.
2016-05-29 14:56
FalleN is so full of shit. Fucking obey your new contract with SK and deal with it. You signed it, you respect it. Don't come up with lies how you got tricked into it. That's just bullshit.
2016-05-29 15:01
#291
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Italy Div-\ 
+16546846
2016-05-29 15:37
#248
1annN | 
Yugoslavia 1annN 
NT BUYAKA
2016-05-29 15:03
Lol fallen playing the victim. Just man the fuck up and realize that you fucked up big time
2016-05-29 15:13
+1
2016-05-29 18:54
You did not want to sign it but you signed it ? wtf is this?! FalleN come on... I was big fan of yours :<
2016-05-29 15:16
U mad?? Cya court!
2016-05-29 15:19
#281
cogu | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
expected from a german cheater org It was LG players fault signing 2 contracts, but SK acting shaddy and trying to avoid steve and directly talking with LG players to dissuade them just shows how dirty SK is as an org. Lost some respect for LG players and lost all the few respect I had for SK org.
2016-05-29 15:25
You do realize that this is LG players and N1 else's fault right? Say what you will about SK's ways and or how god/bad LG org was/is. Its the players who went out looking, who accepted offers and who was not satisfied with their current situation fault. I find it so extremely dumb how this even is news, and that people actually think for a second that SK is the big bad wolf or that people on the other side blame the LG org for sucking. These players are grown men, making their own decisions. Reading FALLEN's statement is like looking into the brain of an unsecure little girl at the age of 12 or so. RIDICOLUS. MAN THE FUCK UP!
2016-05-29 15:45
#299
cogu | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
"You do realize that this is LG players and N1 else's fault right?" Can you read? Did you really read my comment? Then comeback later when you reach 30 IQ points. Tnks!
2016-05-29 15:48
"but SK acting shaddy and trying to avoid steve and directly talking with LG players to dissuade them just shows how dirty SK is as an org." ^ I responded with saying that those facts dosent matter. And added on that it was the players fault wich i actually missed that you said yourself so mybad :) "Lost some respect for LG players and lost all the few respect I had for SK org." ^ You should lose all respect for the players. Just responding to your points and making sure every1 else who reads gets their head out their ass.
2016-05-29 15:52
Stop Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V ur shit
2016-05-29 16:13
I don't actually think that they signed contract with SK. I don't think it's possible to legally sign new contract if you are still under some old one. SK people had must known that. But i'm pretty sure there was someting like pre-contract so that SK have all the rights to sign those players as soon as they are free from LG org. Also since FalleN and co. wanted buy out of LG org asap, so i think that SK did contact LG, but they were ignored. So that's how LG org found out about everything. No respect lost for SK. On the other hand i don't blame poor brasilians. They were unhappy at LG and they had there chance to go out. The problem is that they won the MAJOR. And since there prize went all the way to LG org, now LG org wish is the command for FalleN and the rest. If they want there money. All respect lost for LG org. I'm even thinking that all of this what FalleN said is what they command.
2016-05-29 17:09
Fallen <3 $
2016-05-29 15:27
#290
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Korea karlyn90 
who cares about money drama? go back to your poor lives HLTV members
2016-05-29 15:35
lol true shit
2016-05-29 16:12
#294
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Denmark idoz 
Fallen your so full of shit OMFG .... Just watched Thorin's Thoughts - The Luminosity vs. SK Dispute youtube.com/watch?v=GpT2SUZkOXI
2016-05-29 15:43
It looks like LG players fucked up because of clear lack of knowledge, but it also looks like that SK did not want to wait for the contract with LG to be ended to fit the #1Team players at their organization in which is very ugly here in brazil, for example when a soccer team try to buy a player/coach that is employed that is looked with a very ugly eye for the team who's trying to buy it, I believe that this situation is a combination of lack of respect from SK and lack of legal knowledge for LG players, I'll continue respecting both but I'm sure that a lot of people will stop being fans to became judges, which is ridiculous.
2016-05-29 15:43
You do realize that this is LG players and N1 else's fault right? Say what you will about SK's ways and or how god/bad LG org was/is. Its the players who went out looking, who accepted offers and who was not satisfied with their current situation fault. I find it so extremely dumb how this even is news, and that people actually think for a second that SK is the big bad wolf or that people on the other side blame the LG org for sucking. These players are grown men, making their own decisions. Reading FALLEN's statement is like looking into the brain of an unsecure little girl at the age of 12 or so. RIDICOLUS. MAN THE FUCK UP!
2016-05-29 15:47
SK is a dirty orga, not a big news. But such behavior from players is just wow.
2016-05-29 15:45
#305
cogu | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
+1 I'm wondering who was the scum bag player from LG that decided keep hiden conversations with SK. fallen - wasnt him fnx - barelly knows how to speak proper portuguese, only phrase he knows in english is "nice to meet you". fer - he's loyal to fallen, wouldnt do anything against fallen concept. It was probably cold and taco who kept conversation with SK and fucked up the whole thing. gz
2016-05-29 15:53
maybe zews...
2016-05-29 17:18
ALL OF THEM KNEW ABOUT THE CONTRACTS STUPID FAVELAS, THEY ALL WANTED TO GO INTO SK AND STILL WANT TO BUT THEY ARE SCARED THAT LG WONT GIVE THEM PRIZE MONEY, THE WHOLE FALLEN POST IS A LIE. EVEERY OTHER SENTENCE CONTRADICTS EACH OTHER
2016-05-29 23:25
+1. Don't like SK.
2016-05-29 16:01
admin kick the favelas.
2016-05-29 15:49
This statement is full of bullshit and lies.
2016-05-29 15:52
lel, don't fall off your high horse fallen, nobody pressured you into signing shit, and ofc they approached you when your contracts were still running, what did you expect, wait in the hope that you don't get contracted again and signing as soon as your contracts end? these are businessmen, they do this for a living...
2016-05-29 15:57
who cares? if it wasnt for the bullshit daily dot and bald kunt we would still have ibp
2016-05-29 15:57
nice "it's ok as long as you don't get caught" mentality there
2016-05-29 16:02
Lies lies lies.
2016-05-29 16:00
Fallen is retarded
2016-05-29 16:01
Sports laws do not apply to 'eSports' lol, comparing a very small 'sport' to ones which are televised and generate billions and are actually known as a sport to electronic games is very stupid.
2016-05-29 16:05
Orgs will ruin esports and players freedom
2016-05-29 16:10
#320
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Russia jobs! 
Oh gosh, ahaha, so unprofessional and dishonest in relation to Steve (CEO. Poor guy. They gave him so many problems. After that they're "friends" (as Fallen said)? They have no legal literacy or what? Punishment from ESL/trial will be fair. F*cking shame for CS scene.
2016-05-29 16:16
#321
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Denmark clutchkongen 
that statement is the worst pile of BS i have ever heard..
2016-05-29 16:17
Someone tell me, what the fuck is this dude playing at? If there was a letter of intent between LG and the team, then it's him and his team mates who broke the terms, not SK. Another question is the content of the loi. Those aren't necessarily binding.
2016-05-29 16:18
SK is a waste, will always be coffin. FalleN get rid of it
2016-05-29 16:19
stupid favelas can't think
2016-05-29 16:24
I can´t see what SK org or LG org did wrong, the whole situation is fault of LG players, they did sign a contract and now they must accept it or pay the consequences, simple.
2016-05-29 16:27
youtube.com/watch?v=GpT2SUZkOXI rip LG Lineup. They fucked up so hard.. sad for them, but not SKs problem
2016-05-29 16:43
Drama Alert anyone #KEEMSTAR
2016-05-29 16:44
leeeeeeeeeeeeeeet's get rooooooooooooight into the noose
2016-05-29 16:52
this comments are so stupid
2016-05-29 16:50
favelas in jail inc
2016-05-29 16:51
Actually that LOI doesn't mean anything since LG org didn't offer FalleN and his teammates new contract in the time span they were obligated to. And i'm not even sure that SK did anything legally wrong by offering BR team new contracts after LG contract is ended. Even tho that contract was (is) still active. However morally wrong is all of this chaos that FalleN is trying to create, and all this blame to SK. Since he even wanted to get bought out of LG org even before there contract ends. Now he act like he was (is) happy with that old (current) contract with LG.
2016-05-29 16:57
LG players were dumb and greedy, SK did something than you wouldn't be able to do in any sport with proper rules (even on LoL you can't do this kind of stuff). I feel like the brazilians players felt overwhelmed for the whole situation they went trough on last year, SK tried to take some advantage of that until players realized they fucked up. Anyway, like Thorin says maybe LG threatened the players with not paying prize money and stuff, we will know on july after the LG contract ends if Fallen is telling the truth or not. I'm quite sure SK won't try to force players to play for them after all this, but if the brazilians leave to another org on july (maybe FaZe, TSM or whatever) then we could be sure LG players were lying now and they always wanted to leave. We need to wait and see what happens.
2016-05-29 17:03
I guess they will not leave. why whould we think LG would hold the money? FalleN even said they talked to MLG and they could give the money directly to the players and Steve said the money had been paid out lol
2016-05-29 17:31
Well, that's exactly the point of wait and see (you can't take everything for granted just because someone said so, there is always a chance to find out people was lying). At least some of the players had some issues with LG and wanted something better, Fallen said than sometimes LG delayed a bit the payments and than he was the only one than wanted to stay on LG at some point (he said than even thought of making a new team). It's a fact than some of them wanted something else, probably Cold, Taco and Fnx were the ones more interested on going to SK since I don't think Fer could go against Fallen. That also would make a lot sense, since if your star player wants to leave then the rest would follow him. Anyway, you always have to remember than LG isn't a big org afterall. There is a lot of orgs able to offer something better to these guys, SK is just one of them. Right now, Fallen and co. are like the Leicester City players after winning Premier League. Teams will approach to team and his current team can't outbid or even match the offers they will get. For most people when money is pulling your strings is hard to resist. Hopefully they will make the right choices on the future, this was a learning experience for all of them.
2016-05-29 18:30
#336
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Brazil houghzinhu 
SK FUCK!!!!!!! Fallen nice!!! \o/
2016-05-29 17:07
nt Wallen
2016-05-29 17:26
#345
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United States AshKetchum 
Why would a player even bother writting so much? lul Probably written by that scum bag buyaka.
2016-05-29 17:39
SK's shitty organization but they're right on this one
2016-05-29 17:39
get rekt ScumK
2016-05-29 17:48
#351
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Finland jack7bauer 
Its ridiculous how this br cheaters now try to cover their asses, even they been the biggest scum in this case. Lets think about it: -Greedy LG players want bigger salary and better benefits -> they sign contract with SK gaming (behind back of LG organization). Then they win a major, and they see $$ shine in their eyes and turn their jacket again now betraying the SK gaming. So in end the players first betrayed LG org, and then turn their jackets and betray SK org. And people only blame SK of this? This players get out of this without nothing?
2016-05-29 18:12
SK org betrayed LG org trying to do things in the back, in the end everybody wrong and the one who lost out was the LG org. Do not place all mistake in the players back, everyone is wrong in this situation
2016-05-29 18:28
#360
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Finland jack7bauer 
Yea i agree SK was acting very low, and was betraying LG org. But the players, betrayed first LG org, and then SK org, all becouse they greedy for money. And now they wanna pretend like victim in this casE? ffs
2016-05-29 18:37
SK didn't betray LG, there was no agreement between them to break. They aquired their lineup in the exact same way LG got them from KeyD. All of this mess is the result of the team acting like children, signing legal documents like they were post cards.
2016-05-29 18:50
stupid favela, Sk did nothing, the players every single one of them wanted to go to SK but were scared that LG would keep the prize money won at MLG
2016-05-29 23:22
oh god, how autistic can you be. They aren't greedy because LG is very poor in giving salaries, and these are players that do this as a job. All players wanted to go to SK, but were scared that LG would not give them the prize money they won.
2016-05-29 23:23
+1
2016-05-29 23:58
"During the tournament and after winning it, we had the chance to talk personally with Steve. We didn't even have time to celebrate our win. It was a very shit situation because we felt and actually we were going into his back. We signed something going over the contract we had signed with him. I remember being on the dinner table and not being able to look into his eyes. No one of us had the courage to admit we signed it. But later or sooner we had to admit it." Worst situation i've heard, this is so bad...OMG FalleN is a good guy, he always try to do better choices for your friends, probably cold kept contacts with SK, he was always immature and acted like it was smarter than the others, it is the least friendly of all the players, in addition he has lost the line with the fans in Malmo saying he was tired and would retire, he was probably under pressure from fellow condemning the situation he put the team, and also the pressure of having played badly in Malmo
2016-05-29 18:24
You are pretty stupid, regular favela, the whole article was a lie. Every other lie contradicts each other.
2016-05-29 23:21
You have mental problems or what? Someone was rude to you, piece of shit fat
2016-05-30 14:03
Idk man, do I have mental problems. Cause I can clearly understand the article, unlike someone. God all of them wanted to sign, even fallen. No one hid the contracts. regular favela
2016-05-30 17:51
gayllen
2016-05-29 18:31
Whatever... SK is a shit shady org anyway... #paywhatyouownSK
2016-05-29 18:34
retards, read all text, not only the part that are here in hltv
2016-05-29 18:40
are
2016-05-29 18:42
are
2016-05-29 18:51
If fallen is that retarded that he didnt understand, its his fault.
2016-05-29 18:46
lol
2016-05-29 18:50
"SK knew we had a LOI to extend our contract signed and not only didn't respect it, as they said they would when they first approached me, but helped inserting into my teammates mind that they didn't have to fulfill our contract with LG."" lol this idiot is blaming SK for making LG roster sign a contract?
2016-05-29 18:52
It was 100% the players' fault to sign the fuckin contract. They should never sign it. I don't care if they don't understand proper English to solve that matter, IT'S A FUCKIN CONTRACT, YOU DON'T NEED TO BE FLUENT IN ENGLISH TO KNOW YOU'RE BETRAYING BUYAKAAAA AND BEING DUMB
2016-05-29 19:21
Oh boy Fallen,you fucked up brah.
2016-05-29 18:54
I watched thorins video on this, and he in my opinion was very objective about the whole thing and.. well it seems that it is a bit fishy..
2016-05-29 19:02
#378
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Germany Gloin 
Can't someone else from LG make a statement and someone translate it... Why do they keep talking to Fallen about it? Obvious he keeps protecting LG and it is always word vs word. All of this could have been cleared behind the scenes between the two parties, but no Fallen and LG made it public in a ridiculous statement attacking SK and trying to create a shitstorm so they wouldn't take them to court...
2016-05-29 19:27
Fallen stabing someone in the back. What a surprise....
2016-05-29 19:34
+1
2016-05-29 23:56
#457
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Serbia whoa!! 
Why what happened? What else did he do?
2016-05-30 08:56
#382
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Turkey safakbskn 
i read everything about this situtation. Fallen and his teammates completely wrong. contract is contract like promise is promise.
2016-05-29 19:48
None of the media is giving SK any side to the story and it's all LG replying to the Media. From the sound of it back in February LG players had signed a letter on intent to the organization of LG. Now the LG players were not happy with what the LG org and what they were giving them BEFORE THE MAJOR (in terms of money) So they contacted SK who would were willing to give a better salary and legal protection from Luminosity org, the reason Legal Protection was there is in case Luminosity org decided to take action against the players upon getting out of the letter of intent (A letter of intent is what you intend to do) so it is not final and is not the same as a contract. Anyways, LG players before the major were not actually under the LG Banner, they were intending to but the LG org did not actually own the LG players who had actually signed a contract with SK a month earlier. When Duncan "Thoorin" Shields a big eSports analyst made a video about this, he spoke to SK Leader the one who had been in contact with the LG players, his name is Alex Muller. Alex Muller had said that the LG players were very eager to get out of the LG organization and wanted to sign with SK as fast as possible in order to get SK salary and everything. So after the LG players win the major the prize money actually goes to Luminosity Org. The players only get half, and then the org gets half (Some % close to that) so then after the major the LG players who were so willing and eager to leave the LG organization and sign with SK all of a sudden are all happy with LG and no longer want to go with SK. Why? It is because LG players were scared that the LG organization would not pay the players the major prize money that they owed the players. Now LG players realize they have fucked up because they just signed a contract with SK two weeks earlier. That maybe LG after getting this big sum of money would pay the players a better salary than Sk. So they decide to fuck SK in the ass and turn their backs on them and make a bunch of lies to try influence the media against SK when really they are just trying to cover up the bullshit this really is. Overall SK should own the LG players, and LG org has said that SK actually were "threatening" and "bribing" the LG players to sign with SK when if you think about it, it's just not true. LG have actually got LG players by the balls and are bribing them to stay and not leave. So SK are in the right, they did not try and steal players from LG, because at the time when LG players signed with SK, LG org never owned them. So SK are in the right and we may see a huge court case July 1st when SK threaten to take legal action against LG players if they do not go under the SK banner by July 1st CHAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN on HLTV PLZ
2016-05-29 20:00
I quickly answered that I was honored to receive that kind of message and them proceed with that exact answer: "Hello Alexander, how are you doing? As we are in contract with LG, all conversations about switching teams and kind of things must be directly done with Steve, aka Buyaka, LG owner. If you want his contact here is his mail: *****@luminosity.gg" - SO HE DIDNT ANSWERED THAT HE WAS HONORED OR THIS WAS NOT THE ONLY MAIL SENT fucking retard shooting himself in foot all time.
2016-05-29 20:07
Sk has always been bad experience and shady as fuck. LG on the other hand can't cope with such a good team. They need to let them go
2016-05-29 20:08
shots fired.
2016-05-29 20:19
#395
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Brazil PHOntivero 
Sk was shady? Yeah, but the ones that fucked up was the players. They didn't stopped and thought 1 sec that this could all go to shit. Actually, Fallen says that he did, but even so, decided to just go with it. I hope this teaches not only them, but all other players a lesson. The business they are, generate a lot of money, and with a lot of money in the middle, comes complciated things to be taken care of that they should be prepared to deal with. I feel very bad for Buyaka that has tried his best so far to keep the players happy and they go and do shit like that. I respect them a lot, especially Fallen, but this time, they fucked up big.
2016-05-29 20:39
Exactly, saying they inserted ideas into their heads is like saying swag was totally dumb and couldn't think for himself just because he is under 18. Its a retarded excuse, ofcoarse FalleN wanted to sell out and I bet he also encouraged his entire team to do that aswell since he was basically the only person involved in the talks with SK. What a dumbass, this is what greed does to you. He should man up and apologize rather than blaming SK for putting ideas in their heads. And is it true Buyakka is holding the money from the major because of this?
2016-05-29 20:55
#435
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Brazil PHOntivero 
Nah, from what i heard, prize moneys were sometimes delayed by LG according to Fallen but were always paid.
2016-05-30 00:40
#402
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Brazil mop4r 
$tickers
2016-05-29 21:34
#403
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Brazil mop4r 
$K
2016-05-29 21:35
fallen, you're clearly not a lawyer, so for god's sake shut the fuck up about legality.
2016-05-29 22:04
he doesnt know he is implicating both himself and his team even deeper with this statement. I doubt he talked with his lawyer before releasing this statement.
2016-05-30 03:40
EU so poor they'll do anything for money. Whats new
2016-05-29 22:17
thank Mr.hltvconfirmed
2016-05-29 22:47
They still have to fullfill and break one of the 2 contracts, they are in trouble. Theres nothing to do to defend the LG players in this situation, besides this also share a behavior from them, they are greedy and are ready to leave whatever the fuck project has invest in you for an easy exit.
2016-05-29 22:27
SK is a shitty organisation stealing money from their players, should never consider going to them. screw sk.
2016-05-29 23:06
#424
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Brazil Nimenz 
Looks like LG players acted like kids. Respect the contract you sign (if you signed) irresponsable guys.
2016-05-29 23:14
Irresponsible and coward at the same time.
2016-05-30 07:49
Signed the contract, now respect the contract or ure fuc**d! Bunch of kiddos, u guys reallly messed it up! Haha
2016-05-29 23:22
Damage control at its best. Fuck off, Fallen, you're talking about honor and you signed another contract, lol. The funny part is if you take Fallen's version in cosideration, this has Cold's hands all over the place. That kid is really toxic and greedy.
2016-05-29 23:40
Thorin about Fallen's dispute hltv.org/?pageid=18&threadid=1164386#r16..
2016-05-30 02:38
Smart? Loyal? LG-SK situation turns Brazil mantra on its head.
2016-05-30 06:50
loyal*
2016-05-30 07:14
I don't know why he decided to release such a statement, if he decided/wrote this piece on his own though... Because this makes his team (him included) look like gigantic assholes and complete retards. The first thing should have been informing LG that you received an offer from SK. And at least if you did not inform them, ask them if they received anything from SK as you pointed that they had to reach out LG's owner. This is the worst story I've ever read. You want to sign for SK, then you want them to help you, then you do not want to sign for them, but you sign them, and then you put the blame on them and say fuck off you were acting like an outlaw so I'm gonna stick with LG. YOU are responsible of your fucking action, including signing something you didn't want to. That's seriously the worst statement I have ever seen. RIP your PR FalleN & your players.
2016-05-30 08:09
FalleN - the saintly and most friendly person of csgo community ©every stupid/naive hltv user who read FalleN's twitter before
2016-05-30 08:53
#458
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Serbia whoa!! 
#lgloyal xD
2016-05-30 08:59
LOL I Give zero fuks just get money
2016-05-30 10:02
I had huge respect for Fallen, like he seemed like the best most mature person in cs:go watching interviews, and well what he has done for the community is very nice. But I don't know, we all have flaws, nobody is perfect but this statement, along with what has happened makes one lose respect for what it seems to be such a great invidual.
2016-05-30 10:32
Ayy lmao LG players playing a sport they love and all they want is money
2016-05-30 11:09
+1
2016-05-30 19:57
im fucking disapointed, buyake gave the money, the chance, he gave everything and in the first opportunity LG backstab him, fuck you fallen and company
2016-05-30 14:04
#477
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Other erosMaster 
oh!oh!oh! money !money! money!
2016-05-30 15:56
lol for all the shady things SK did, this is much worse what LG is doing, using the 500k as a hostage to force the players to act nice and stay. You thought gaming orgs were shady in the past, now see them today where there is actual money to be won...
2016-05-30 18:32
Biggest liar SA
2016-05-30 19:59
Fallen and his crew signed a F**** contract with SK. Who knows how much money SK spent based on the thought they would have LG players playing for them the next month? Imagine you sign a contract to buy a new House. Based on that you sell your old one, but suddenly your new House's seller doesn't want to sell it to you anymore and you now gotta pay rent until you get a new House. A contract has MONEY, MORAL, HONOR and many other things involved. You can't just "regreat your decision" and undo a contract. Being a brazilian I feel embarassed for all of them for being so greedy and so inconsequent. They made a BIG mistake by signing with SK and should pay for what they've done, legally speaking.
2016-05-31 02:22
Fallen's lawyer: "Repeat after me - bla bla SK knew bla bla teammates mind bla bla bla..."
2016-05-31 03:30
#500
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Sweden mr-gusse 
What a f***** hypocrite.... you have noone to blame but yourself FalleN yet you try to blame everyone else.... GTFO
2016-05-31 13:06
Lol he paints him and his team out to be total morons in this statement
2016-05-31 14:25
#502
World LXP 
sooo are they going to SK or staying in LG? Is it too late to buy a LG jersey? :S
2016-05-31 14:39
#503
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Luxembourg alex24 
banning LG and SK teams from all tournaments is the only way
2016-05-31 16:00
#511
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Germany No_Kappa 
banning LG and SK teams from all tournaments is our only hope* Fixed that for you.
2016-06-02 02:01
#512
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Luxembourg alex24 
honestly besides favelas who cheers for LG ?? nobody!! for fnatic, NIP, VP, NV, Navi cheer alot of fans from different countries
2016-06-02 07:13
After reading the espn article, the tweets, fallen's statement to the daily dot, and thorin's video, I've come to the conclusion that the fault is, on the biggest part on the players themselves. Not because they are greedy (I think they were right to look for other org propositions and to learn their real market value with their new-found success, like any professional does, and I'd support them going for a better deal with SK, or any other org.). But for being immature, naive and ignorant enough not to bring in any lawyer(s) at ANY point in this process for themselves, that understands Californian and German law and a Portugese translator to consult and review LG's LOI and SK's contract and tell them if the LOI was binding or not to decide if they should be moving orgs.
2016-05-31 18:52
What a f***** hypocrite.... you have noone to blame but yourself FalleN yet you try to blame everyone else.... GTFO
2016-05-31 19:52
Fair sure the facts given by SK and even by LG make this statement more bullshit than the thought of Trump being President He's clearly talking shit just like the owner of LG and it's fairly easy to see through In sports this kind of statement is illegal
2016-05-31 20:11
My dad sat me down once. He looked me straight in the eyes and said son, pay attention. *hands me piece of paper* *writes down chore list* *scribbles an X with a line* "Sign here" "?...Ok" *signs contract* Fast forward a few weeks. I tried to weasel my way out of my chores obviously, so my pops notices and sits me down. "Mijo, we had an agreement, you can't back out" Up to that point I consistently wasn't keeping my promises. Pops had to sit me down and tell me that when you sign something, it's a binding agreement. There is no backing out. It's under law ! In the same breath you should always do your best and keep your promises. Doing so gives one honor and integrity. Fitting that we made laws to honor the words of men when they shake hands and look each other in the eye. Best of luck Fallen, Do what is right.
2016-06-02 07:39
Possibilities: 1-)Both parts friendly rescinds the contract and move on 2-)SK makes the litigation: -Loses and attracts antipathy of the community and pro players because of FalleN -Wins and attracts antipathy of the community and pro players because of FalleN if LG players prevented to play tournaments: they go to SK and play like shit for obvious reasons. they stay inactive for the period of the contract and SK will have the worst fanbase of esports spamming hate to them forever. Sk is in a lose-lose situation and must backpedal for damage control, if they lose in court they basically will be dead for csgo.
2016-06-02 07:40
#517
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Slovakia HRTomi 
People should have to see how much SK asking from sponsors peer month,most of people in EU can get luxury apartmant for this in centre of any big city,rip.
2016-06-02 19:53
Reply me plz or i will hunt you down
2016-06-03 18:12
So who is the wrong one here, I've heard SK has been doing this kind of stuff for a long time, but they did sign the contract. I'm confused af can someone explain?
2016-07-02 20:55
Staying in LG, kek.
2016-07-13 14:24
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