Virtus.pro decline Premier spot

30-5-2016 16:54

ESEA has announced that Virtus.pro have relinquished their spot in the Premier division.

The Polish giants were due to play in ESEA Premier, one tier below the ESL Pro League, after a disastrous season that culminated with a 1-2 defeat to PENTA Sports in the relegation match.

The decision could have to do with the fact that ESEA Season 22 has no ties to season 4 of the Pro League, which will start later this year. The teams competing in the Premier division will only play for spots at the ESEA Global Challenge Finals.

Virtus.pro to skip ESEA Premier

According to ESEA Product Manager Brett Sheffield, Virtus.pro will be back for Season 23 to fight for a place in the Pro League, which recently expanded from 12 to 14 teams.

Swedish team ggrabb, who were due to be demoted to the Main division, will take Virtus.pro's spot in ESEA Premier, which will feature the following 17 teams:

Orbit	ENCE
Empire	ALTERNATE aTTaX
KILLERFISH	LDLC
eSuba	CPH Wolves
Oslo Lions	CSGO2x
Kalashnikov 47	PLATIN
Orgles5	Arcade
UNDERD0GS	gBots
Estonia4lyfe

For those asking, @TeamVirtuspro will not be in Premier for S22 of @ESEA League. They will be for Season 23.
— Brett Sheffield (@fewowns) 29 May 2016

oh i did it lel

2016-05-30 16:54

24 replies

ahhahaha gl vp

2016-05-30 16:57

20 replies

VP tier3

19 replies

2016-05-30 17:26

11 replies

69*

2016-05-30 17:40

10 replies

+1 :D

2016-05-30 18:16

9 replies

70?

2016-05-30 18:35

8 replies

without VP it is even easier for ENCE

2016-05-30 19:18

7 replies

What is ENCE?

2016-05-30 20:03

6 replies

ENCE eSports is a Finnish multigaming organization whose primary aim is to make the Finnish eSports scene more professional and consistent. ENCE eSports was first founded in April 2013 by Petri "Procyon" Hämälä of Peliliiga, Toni "Chibulis" Jarkima, formerly of eXelon Gaming and Teemu "wabbit" Hiilinen of SEUL. On April 13, it was announced that the team known as TOOMUCHVIDEOGAMES would join the organization as their first CS:GO team.[1] The relationship between the players and the organization soon broke down, however, mostly stemming from the looming instability of the roster, and the team was finally removed from ENCE in late May.[2] ENCE returned to Counter-Strike in September of the same year, when natu's walla walla wasp wackers joined the organization. In spite of multiple local LAN victories and various promising results in international tournaments, the team once again struggled with keeping their roster stable, with a total of 13 players having played for the team over its lifespan. Soon after it was announced that the team would not participate in DreamHack Summer 2014 due to a family tragedy concerning an unnamed player of the team, the organization stated on June 28 that they would shut down.[3] On December 23, 2015, ENCE's Facebook header was changed to one with a scrambled iteration of their logo, with a text saying "rebooting"[4]; thus adding more fuel to the fire of rumors of former NiP member allu creating a new fully Finnish team. After a number of cryptic tweets from various notable members of the Finnish esports community, most notably one by suNny, featuring him making a thumbs up in front of a contract with ENCE's logo, on January the organization formally announced their return on their website. As frequently rumored, the team was confirmed to feature allu plus the consistent MIXCAT quartet of suNny, xartE, Juhob and stonde.

2016-05-30 20:04

5 replies

what is ence?

2016-05-30 21:11

3 replies

2016-05-30 21:15

hodorthedoor

2016-05-30 21:24

ENCE pence! Kappa

2016-05-31 00:05

tl;dr. They are probably just a bunch of noobs.

2016-05-30 22:32

Virtus.Premier ?

2016-05-30 18:17

how hard is it to stay i Pro League? even HR can do it for fraks sake...

2016-05-30 19:15

4 replies

VP always sucked and will suck online.

2016-05-30 21:07

It's the shitty poorlish Internet

2016-05-30 23:17

2 replies

more like, they're stupid enough to give away their IP address by playing on public DM servers.

2016-05-30 23:56

1 reply

It was a joke why did you ruin it by giving a serious answer

2016-05-31 00:40

FEELSBATMAN

2016-05-30 20:54

give it to GODSENT

2016-05-30 17:01

cg halušky

2016-05-30 17:27

ty kamaride ^^

2016-05-30 18:48

RIP VP vs Underdogs :(

2016-05-30 16:55

ez for ence esports and arcade esports

"You fired me? No, I QUIT!!"

2016-05-30 22:50

haha +1 ez for xenn

2016-05-30 17:09

vp took lessons from joelz

2016-05-30 19:30

yes

good choice VIRTOS PLOW(GOLDEN 5) dont play with tier5(noobs)

2016-05-30 17:20

Golden 5 lost again penta, thats why thet didnt qualify.

2016-05-30 17:28

maybe you dont know, they won Starladder. they're just LAN players

2016-05-30 18:59

hahaha polish fans the masters of excuses xD

2016-05-30 19:44

not really an excuse when the man has a point or ?

2016-05-30 19:59

ok then Astralis are onliners.

2016-05-30 20:02

Fnatic is shit without olofmeister.

2016-05-30 21:02

G2 have improved massively with updated cheats.

2016-05-30 23:23

ye its not an excuse lol they dont need to play t4 online cheaters...

2016-05-30 22:29

so what if they are lan players? they just fucking lost to penta, we are talking about tier3 team.

2016-05-30 21:05

They still lost to PENTA.To team,that lost to Danish T5 team Preparation 16-4/16-7 last month.

2016-05-31 13:57

Ez for ENCE!

It's not funny

2016-05-30 21:03

to slow..

Sad, that the only "good" team wont attend. Good luck to the germans and ez for ENCE.

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This should be a tournament where ATTAX has the opportunity to shine but yet I still feel like they'll be lackluster T_T

2016-05-30 17:11

They havent be performing good in a while, i feel like Orbit will take it, but i cheer for the germans and LDLC. ;)

2016-05-30 17:12

I'm cheering for LDLC too, time for ex6 to start snowballing his team towards success

2016-05-30 17:13

I hope to see LDLC dominate again ;)

Orbit without dreamer?

2016-05-30 17:38

forgot about the vac ;(

2016-05-30 17:39

yea, everyone forgot about nonamers xDDDDDD

who is mikush

2016-05-30 19:11

Dreamer has VAC? What

2016-05-30 20:08

yeah on his old acc

2016-05-30 21:10

They give a chance for lesser known teams to shine.

2016-05-31 13:32

I dont think that that is the reason, since they need any tournament victory they can grab, but i dont think they would have won anyways...

2016-05-31 19:06

ur 9th #fail

2016-05-30 21:19

#10 Tenth Selling this spot

1st

ur 13th #fail

LOL.

KEK

LUL

ez4ence

Tp eeke

what??

lel

kkk

Ez4ence

yeah 1st

ur 27th #fail

2016-05-30 21:17

DISBAND Pollacks DISBAND

I like the ring to the your chant DISBAND Polacks DISBAND!

2016-05-30 19:50

ur 29th #fail

2016-05-30 21:18

Virtus.Premier

vp ez

ur 32nd #fail

NOOOOOOO

damn

Xd ahhahaha

gg ez

... but why?

So sad if they get wildcard, it would be so disrespectfull for PENTA :)

15 replies

what better to team to invite?

2016-05-30 16:58

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I dont know? Still unprofessional, you dont get last in Premier League and stay en Premier League next season no matter what, i dont care if VP is top10 team, they should fight like any other team for the spot, if they invited VP they could invite any other team from Premier too:)

2016-05-30 17:00

vp fanbase > all of premier fanbase money > results

+1 We all know ESL is notorious for bullshit, they'll bullshit their way back into Premier. Another 0-16 season inc? EleGiggle

2016-05-31 02:43

There is 1 invite slot,its upto ESL whom to invite. Thats why its called "invite" and not qualifier slot.

It's very unlikely they'll get invited, cause else they wouldn't say, they will be back in the premier division season 23.

2016-05-30 17:14

it's all about money tho vp = viewers viewers = $$$

2016-05-30 19:01

No??? Keep current teams for next season ???

Probably Godsent, Hellraisers or AGG. After VP's performance in Pro Leauge they sure as hell dont deserve riding back on a unicorn to the Pro League again just because they're VP.

2016-05-30 17:03

When nip were playing like shit,they got invited to every league and lan. Did they deserve it ? no,but they still got invited didnt they? ANd even you will accept VP is better than any of the teams you mentioned.

2016-05-30 17:15

So did Cloud 9 and CLG when they were still shit.

2016-05-30 18:56

Exactly.SO why cant VP get an invite for an online league,it aint even a lan tournament.And its not like penta or any other team which takes the slot has a chance of qualifying.

2016-05-30 19:04

Because people on hltv hate polish fans is my guess idk

2016-05-30 19:06

HellRaisers already qualified beating Orbit and PENTA in ESEA Premier Finals...

2016-05-30 19:45

"According to ESEA Product Manager Brett Sheffield, Virtus.pro will be back for Season 23 to fight for a place in the Pro League, which recently expanded from 12 to 14 teams".

2016-05-30 17:05

R.I.P Virtus Pro

ez 4 ence lol

Understandably they don't want to play in a tier 3 league :P. Good luck to them in the wildcard match.

DISBAND LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

expected from noob team

LMAO

Virtus.amateur

2016-05-30 16:56

Fuck vp, dont deserve the wildcard

wildcard ezpz 4 virtus.premier

Ez virtus premier

ez for wilcard card

Gl to orgles5

hahahahahahahahahah

I called it 3 months ago. Next season, VPro will get a wildcard not this season.

WTF is Platin ? No such team in France

play.esea.net/teams/74968

Well, based on the roster of this team...WTF. 2 of the 8 players are in Millenium, one is a manager not a player, and...cadian/glace? WTF is happening

2016-05-30 18:31

They're wrong. It's Michelle Platini

2016-05-30 16:59

top kek

VP pay ur Premier spot.

VP is so like Fluminense hahahaha

2016-05-30 17:31

HAHahaha really

2016-05-30 18:15

LUL Virtus."pro" LUL

DISBAND

VP scared of ENCE ???

2016-05-30 22:23

Virtus.SemiPro

wtf is UNDERD0GS

Such fags. "Oh, premier? We don't have time for that." Learn to assume the fact that you guys haven't really done anything especial for the last year

They won SLTV, placed top 8 in major but nothing special. They deserve this spot imo

There only was one decent team at starladder and they choked like usual in the finals. Placed top 8 major: fnatic dogshit, envy dogshit, faze dogshit? Do I need to remember you that liquid got 3rd/4th in that major? (Simple carry ftw) Thats how bad that major was... Even then, 2 mwa results cant compensate for their terrible online performance... They think now that they're too good for premier, thats alright. Go back to main for next season and see you never again vp.

2016-05-30 17:29

They have always been terrible online - we now only see it more and more as there is a ton of leagues which require online qualifications. ELeague and Cologne will definitely be their chance to show their true colors.

They simply need roster changes, their lineup can be adjusted and improved to make them a better online team

2016-05-30 21:34

They are at that point where Cloud9 was months ago (before the 3 consecutive finals and epic performances against EnvyUs). The point where they just play for the wage they receive from the contracts and sponsors. I have a friend that defends the team to the end, but I haven't really seen them win anything big, except that Katowice in 2014. I think they should really consider retiring if they don't at least get to the semifinals on Cologne. Sure, online tournaments kind of fuck you because you have to play many and many games in a week. This leaves no space for practicing and resting well from the game. Here is where I say it would be interesting to see that HUGE tournament idea (like The International) that was proposed by ESL. Teams would have more time to really improve and clean themselves for a really big price.

2016-06-01 02:30

Rip Virtus.Premier meme?

lmao ez for ence

lol mad losers?

Expected XDDDDDDDDDDDD RIP VP once more.

lmfao

Copenhagen Wolves would run over them anyways.

This Team LOL :D

who is this french "PLATIN" Team? I know Platinium only...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

ez Orbit

Probably scared of becoming virtus.main

2016-05-30 17:02

ayy

2016-05-30 17:04

ahahahahaha

2016-05-30 17:06

lol

2016-05-30 19:26

nice!

Virtus Premier ayy lmao

they are afraid of 2-14 in premier

What? A UK team is in it? Impossible!

the new one !! but after one game they will split probably

2016-05-30 17:07

rattleteeth2toxic

2016-05-30 21:40

Virlan.Premier

Orbit will take it easy.

underdogs? Kalashnikov 47? oslo lions? wtf is that and do they already have a lineup ? :-D

Good. They can wipe their asses with this spot.

Expected

2016-05-30 17:08

Virtus pro...more like Grandpha pro

Grandpa pro still top 10. Shame on the youngsters

2016-05-30 17:18

-pasha +Me =Ez4ence

Luckly Virtus Pro has a loyal fanbase. not like Fnatic who just support them cuz they are good. Reall VP fans will support them in any state. VIRTUS PRO WILL ALWAYS BE IN MY HEART <3

2016-05-30 17:10

of course <3

Expected corrupted move by VP Paid money for Wild Card next season. Respect??? Hell no

why are you talking shit, do you have proof i think it's ESEA more interested in the VP to playing in the league because of their fans and a large number of viewers on streams, you now its all abaut $$$$$$$$$ and now you can tell me "you are idiot and VP fangay"

2016-05-31 17:14

LOL shame of being bad at the game?

rip

Expected, and I think it's good for them, there are so many good leagues now so letting go this one can help them. I think ESL doesn't like this situation :)

I think VP can focused on other leagues like ELEAGUE or ECS S2... But, expected for the wildcard slot give to VP.

2016-05-30 17:50

So next season VP will be in premier? LMAO, I think I'll start a team right now. Maybe I'll get to upset the big mighty golden 5 next year.

So, premier will be have a extra team next year becouse Vp dont want to play this season?.They should go at least to the main league...

2016-05-30 17:19

Its special tactic guys.... We will see in colonge

ez 4 ence now

2016-05-30 17:21

hahaha well done, its nonsense to play with these low teams

2016-05-30 17:24

yes, but to online vp is weak. They can each lose. This team LAN

2016-05-30 17:30

Why? VP is in the same level as them...

2016-05-30 17:34

monkie pleez

2016-05-30 18:47

If they get relegated and had to play with "these low teams" it means they aren't better than those teams. Virtus.Premier

2016-05-30 20:48

feel pain in your ass

2016-05-30 21:08

What pain ? LMAO The pain is in VP fans camp, they can't accept their team is shit. And VP is so pretentious they don't want to play with premier teams because they consider them as shit teams but VP isn't better itself.

they won last lan against NaVi, and they are in top 6 - thier team is shit - l0l. Hard to understand your logic or lack of logic. You are propably from no scene country.

2016-05-30 23:04

NaVi is shit bro, they almost lost to F3 in the LAN you're talking about (and they scored less rounds than F3 in that BO3, so it's because of luck that they got the win). Congrats VP you have beaten NaVi which is a Tier 2 team :) Rest of the teams on that LAN were irrelevant on the top level : GodSent, Worst Players, CSGL new shit name (congrats on the Dolce & Gabbana cheap copy LMAO). This LAN doesn't change the fact that VP is still Tier 2 max. They only played a Tier 2 team (NaVi), rest of the team (CSGL, GS, WP, F3, etc) are Tier 3 teams.

2016-05-30 23:10

you have to be really sad person in real life. I havent seen hate like that for a while. No flag expert kappa

2016-05-30 23:34

Yeah yeah. You talk shit on "these low teams" who aren't weaker than VP, and i'm the sad one with "pain in the ass". WP poorlak. VP was a legend team, now it's over, nothing else.

2016-05-30 23:35

easy wild card

what does it mean?

free invitation

2016-05-30 17:36

EZ oStuda

rofl 2 ex or maybe 3 for sure ex cheaters on underdogs

good decision

If they don't play in tier 2 this season they shouldn't get a chance in tier 1 next season over strong tier 2 results you don't see Birmingham FC saying fuck playing in the championship, just let me play in the premier league next season instead

2016-05-30 17:35

Villa fan ?

2016-05-30 17:56

nah, this season was good xD

2016-05-30 18:29

but what the fuck is a ggrabb ?

f0rest > neo

2016-05-30 17:43

great joke. it was obvious! C'mon VP!

2016-05-30 17:46

favela<ameba

2016-05-30 18:03

If ESL do not invites VP, VP disband.

2016-05-30 17:47

2016-05-30 17:51

EZ FOR ENCE

2016-05-30 17:54

Damn... Kalashnikov 47 - VP would be legendary matches :((

2016-05-30 17:57

there are already too many leagues atm. if they drop out, it wouldn't be a big deal for them. I think esl will give them the wildcard spot to make sure they have the best possible teams in their leagure

ez 4 orgless Virtus.Premier refused to play cuz they're too scared of RattlesnK Kappa

2016-05-30 17:59

RIP THE PLOW :(

2016-05-30 18:00

RIP Virtus.Premier

wat

2016-05-30 18:07

If teams were not having so much tournaments and things to focus on I would consider that move pretty disrespectful but I guess priorities prevail.

2016-05-30 18:12

expected, no way they are playing with tier 4 teams, it's not worth it for them

you realize that they're just skipping one season

2016-05-30 18:21

They will probably skip another one as well and in the end get a wild card or some shit. Mark my words.

2016-05-30 18:22

can't wait for the shitstorm if they get the wild card spot

2016-05-30 18:23

yeah shitstorm on hltv, reddit and maybe twitter that will last for 2 days and then everyone will move on, sadly

2016-05-30 18:52

its embarassing for them to be in Premier LMAO

174th

2016-05-30 18:20

Post edited 2016-05-30 18:20:38

2016-05-30 22:25

So wait. They're not playing in Premier this season after going 4-18. And losing to Penta in the relegation match. But.... they're allowed to come back and play next season? What kind of fucked up rules are these? Give more spots to teams fighting in Premier, don't give it to a team like VP who does not like to play online matches to begin with.

No they just aren't going to play in this season b/c they can't qualify for pro league in it

2016-05-30 19:12

This would have been allowed to another premier team ? Kalashnikov 47 for example , if they had said the same thing ( they don't want to play premier because they can't qualify for pro league), imo they would be sent to Main immediately.

2016-05-30 19:22

I don't think a team of that skill would ever drop out of a chance to prove themselves but if they did, yea, straight to main they go. It may seem unfair but honestly i don't think it Ian since virtus pro are better than all these teams in premier (Atleast online).

2016-05-30 20:34

UNDERD0GS biggest joke

2016-05-30 18:26

Players > tournements Should NOT be like that... WP Virtus.pro :)

2016-05-30 18:32

The team that beat NaVi on their home soil cant beat Penta lol

2016-05-30 18:37

TabseN 2 OP

2016-05-30 19:53

NRG too op?

Ya know it man. ;)

2016-05-30 19:55

ez for ence

Hope they do better next season

2016-05-30 19:00

a "few" too many burgers is what that guy had

ez for ENCE. Oh....wait... Ez for LDLC

2016-05-30 19:08

forgot an S in Orgless5

2016-05-30 19:21

the "5" counts as a "S" mate

2016-05-30 20:25

Ohh, I get it

2016-05-30 20:38

EZ 4 ENCE and Kalashnikov 47!

2016-05-30 19:29

Hahahahahah Virtus.throw TIER2 team. SAVAGE

2016-05-30 19:33

propaganda against the Polish Nation continues

Virtus.premier LUL

2016-05-30 20:21

Premiereless.Pro

2016-05-30 20:24

gl Kalashnikov 47 they will take it

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2016-05-30 20:52

Damn, so much has changed for the last couple of months

ESEA = tier 2 get rekt lp coin

2016-05-30 21:06

VP is scared to play vs 39874 tier teams xD

2016-05-30 21:20

good decision better to focus on more important leagues

Wtf

2016-05-30 21:43

ez disband

2016-05-30 22:35

Why they should play 30 matches if they cant even advance for pro league from it ? This is season of premier is pointless for team like VP if there is no profit . Only in next season they have chance to advance to pro league s4 . Good decision imo

2016-05-30 22:45

lol they are just embarassed that they lost to penta and are in premier :D

2016-05-31 01:30

the fact that they are allowed to just take a season off and retain their premier spot (and a chance to advance into the pro league) is ridiculous.

2016-05-31 05:21

Let's be honest, VP won't win anything big but they're nice personalities for the scene overall so thats why they should stick around for a while longer. Maybe you should prove everyone that you deserve to at least be considered top6-8 team?

2016-05-31 00:23

they dont wanna lose to these tier 9523759207 teams

2016-05-31 02:26

Is that your cell number?? :D

2016-05-31 09:22

u know it

2016-05-31 12:29

maybe being demoted to premier will wake VP up and push them to make some changes

2016-05-31 02:07

it was just too embarrassing for them

2016-05-31 02:25

kick the fucking grandpa's soon taz won't be able to aim anymore bcz of parkinsons keep one of them (neo) for the experience.. pasha and taz bYe

2016-05-31 02:39

They just tried to put a team that finished 7 years straight with consistent top finishes on LAN against every team in the world in premier?? I think the new ESL management is running the company into the ground

2016-05-31 02:46

so basically you are saying that if Barcelona goes on the last spot of the spanish football league they shouldn't go to the 2nd league just because they did top places everytime? Makes no sense. The problem is that teams like VP are used to have their lives made of invitations and not qualifiers...

2016-05-31 04:16

No im basically saying the opposite, read

2016-05-31 15:56