Korean legends return in MVP PK

MVP have announced the creation of a second Counter-Strike team with former members of WeMade FOX and project_kr.

Captained by Keun-Chul "solo" Kang, MVP's new team boast five players of international pedigree, with the core of the squad having been part of the WeMade FOX roster that won WEM 2010 over SK Gaming.

The team, who will play as MVP PK until a permanent name has been found, are already practicing as they hope to become a dominant force in Asia, which has seen Chinese sides take all the credits.


solo returns in MVP PK 

This will be the second Counter-Strike team supported by famous South Korean organisation MVP, who expanded to the scene in November with the signing of m0nster's lineup, which has competed in a number of regional events over the last year.

MVP PK's roster is the following:

Korea Seon-Ho "termi" Pyeon
Korea Keun-Chul "solo" Kang
Korea Min-Soo "glow" Kim
Korea Min-Seok "zeff" Park
Korea Bum-Ki "peri" Jung 

Korea Bum-Ki 'peri' Jung
Bum-Ki 'peri' Jung
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.02
Maps played:
107
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Korea Min-Seok 'zeff' Park
Min-Seok 'zeff' Park
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
404
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.17
Korea Min-Soo 'glow' Kim
Min-Soo 'glow' Kim
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
370
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.12
Korea Keun-Chul 'solo' Kang
Keun-Chul 'solo' Kang
Age:
31
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
369
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.12
Korea Seon-Ho 'termi' Pyeon
Seon-Ho 'termi' Pyeon
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
63
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
#3
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Finland Raakasipuli 
ez
2016-06-27 12:09
wow, that site is pure trash
2016-06-27 12:32
#77
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Sweden cute! 
WOOOW hahahahahaha
2016-06-27 12:34
Selling a SIGNED WeMade FOX t-shirt from 2009 with termi, glow, solo, lw and bail. hltv.org/news/3033-vip-betting-winners-s.. Pm me if interested
2016-06-27 17:37
#332
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Brazil mexicowss 
sick bro, good luck with sales
2016-06-27 21:50
you can see ranks on that site? haha
2016-06-27 12:41
You can set what you want.
2016-06-27 12:47
its no secret that hltv is globals only...
2016-06-27 13:09
I'm EU supreme :)
2016-06-27 13:52
no global???? GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2016-06-27 14:17
Need two matches and back again :)
2016-06-27 14:18
#211
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Ukraine AndriyK 
pls leave hltv comeback when ure global ty
2016-06-27 15:23
Pfff i dont need to play to get global
2016-06-27 15:58
EU Supreme= NA Pro so you're fine
2016-06-27 18:15
#79
f0rest | 
Bulgaria Uberw0w 
What a bunch of fucking retards...
2016-06-27 12:34
+1
2016-06-27 16:39
lmao
2016-06-27 12:53
to be fair, if these guys havent been playing they ARE gonna get fucking rekt for a long time. just because the were great once doesnt mean they still have it in them
2016-06-27 13:51
#184
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
i KNOW, BUT I'M SO HAPPY THEY CAME BACK BECAUSE OUR ASIAN SCENE KEEPS GETTING LOOKED DOWN UPON FeelsBadMan
2016-06-27 14:47
#253
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Kuwait HAHAHAchild 
Maybe because you haven't accomplished anything internationally worthy of remembering?
2016-06-27 16:44
#367
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
This is why we need more teams like these guys who have pure dedication.
2016-06-28 11:15
+1 Dude this is kind of like MTW announcing a comeback. I'm hopeful but we shall see.
2016-06-27 16:50
most of them never stoped playing, they moved to cs online + they had to go to military, its mandatory here, now that they are back from military and csgo is huge they started to play for real, was leaked long time ago, if they tryhard top10 is ez, but its hard to get good practise in asia, i think bootcamp in eu is necessary
2016-06-27 14:08
atleast they act "smart"
2016-06-27 14:28
HLTV: where smart people act retarded Reddit:where retarded people act smart
2016-06-27 16:53
+1 true!
2016-06-27 16:54
that's the minority of reddit tho
2016-06-27 14:48
And why are you acting like hltv isn't a site of newfags? 90% of the current users on this website have probably never played cs 1.6
2016-06-27 15:10
OMG, SHUT UP PINOY DOG
2016-06-27 15:40
lel
2016-06-27 16:51
Well, they probably aren't gonna accomplish anything, like most other 1.6 legends that "returned to the game", like first guy said.
2016-06-27 16:09
#239
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Sweden cute! 
2016-06-27 16:15
LMFAO
2016-06-27 16:59
Half the thread is hair discussion..... fml CSGO is DED
2016-06-28 04:55
LOOLOLOL these 12 y old kids have no idea what they are talking about
2016-06-27 16:35
As if they are gonna achieve something lol clueless fanboy
2016-06-30 07:06
ROFL they deleted their own comments, fucking virgin fake ass brown u.s american monkeys, go back to fuckin BF lmao
2016-07-01 08:06
how old is solo? 30? :-)
2016-06-28 09:54
#4
mason | 
Tunisia mason~ 
n1
2016-06-27 12:09
holy F, they were amazing back in the days.
2016-06-27 13:44
#EZ4ENCE
2016-06-27 12:10
Ez
2016-06-27 12:51
Ez for the famous e-Sports organisation G2.With their star players Shox and Scream known as the headshot machines,their tank RPK,their madfragger boddy and the sick sniper SmithZz whos hitting crucial shots.
2016-06-27 13:07
#6
Australia Rx777 
rip australia even more
2016-06-27 12:10
yea, australia only
2016-06-27 12:18
#137
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
maybe NA
2016-06-27 13:35
m8 we've been rip since DHW 2014 we are only just coming back a little
2016-06-27 23:34
1
2016-06-27 12:09
1
2016-06-27 12:09
korea top 1 csgo
2016-06-27 12:10
#10
HS | 
Estonia qoznyyy 
woooo gl
2016-06-27 12:09
22222
2016-06-27 12:09
#12
f0rest | 
Slovakia pemi 
wow
2016-06-27 12:09
#13
MEZi | 
Finland Sukrami 
SOLO DIES
2016-06-27 12:18
#82
solo | 
Korea HhdH 
? better then u
2016-06-27 12:35
"than"
2016-06-27 13:16
Clearly you don't get the Star Wars pun he made
2016-06-27 14:52
hes making a joke about han solo dying in star wars
2016-06-27 16:52
wow
2016-06-27 12:09
Ez Asia rank 1
2016-06-27 12:10
COMEBACK IS REAL
2016-06-27 12:10
expected
2016-06-27 12:10
solo OOOOOH MYYYYY GOOOOD
2016-06-27 12:10
#19
huNter | 
Ukraine Ch1caqO 
lol who is it?
2016-06-27 12:10
2016-06-27 14:20
#251
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Brazil SuperAfim 
shit video, 70% intro and 10% gameplay
2016-06-27 16:39
#333
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Brazil mexicowss 
2016-06-27 21:51
#20
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Finland Lehtori 
who?
2016-06-27 12:10
#174
zAAz | 
Europe 1_6er 
userid 689146 xD
2016-06-27 14:29
#379
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
kings of inferno <3
2016-06-28 11:53
#388
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Finland Lehtori 
okey...
2016-06-28 12:33
#22
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Lithuania Fastum2K 
good for the asian scene
2016-06-27 12:10
ezence
2016-06-27 12:10
WeMade FOX Back to party
2016-06-27 12:10
kim jon un ?
2016-06-27 12:11
WHATTTTTTTT PogChamp
2016-06-27 12:11
HYYYYYYPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEE
2016-06-27 12:12
#30
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Faroe Islands _shubaN 
rip
2016-06-27 12:13
who
2016-06-27 12:13
newfag
2016-06-27 13:17
u noob
2016-06-27 13:17
omfg lets goooooo
2016-06-27 12:13
koreans suck at csgo anyway
2016-06-27 12:13
yeah probably
2016-06-27 15:11
solo and termi :3
2016-06-27 12:15
#35
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Denmark PHedemark 
zeff wasn't on the 2010 team. It's 4/5 who won WEM 2010 though.
2016-06-27 12:15
#95
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Singapore The_Fiend[fA] 
-zeff +bail = WMF 2010
2016-06-27 12:46
bail was sick!
2016-06-27 12:48
he is married now with a son, shame he wont return too
2016-06-28 00:09
#36
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Sweden ConaN007 
#CSGO2ASIA
2016-06-27 12:16
MY FAV TEAM NOW
2016-06-27 12:16
same
2016-06-27 16:49
#38
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Czech Republic realProkda 
Hope they won't fuck up the scene #dota
2016-06-27 12:17
#39
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Korea GodPutin 
2016-06-27 12:17
gonna be top 1 in asia, insane lineup
2016-06-27 12:19
idk about that, TyLoo are already the best by quite a margin, MVP got some catching up to do
2016-06-27 17:16
depends on how much time they've actually spent in go, best asian lineup on paper at least
2016-06-27 18:31
doubt they've spent enough time to have raw skill anywhere close to tyloo / mongolz
2016-06-27 18:38
#41
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Portugal proutounz 
This should be interesting
2016-06-27 12:18
I hope this doesnt fall through like the comeback of mTw.
2016-06-27 14:37
#186
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
Agreed ;'( We Asians need more representation #CSGO2Asia
2016-06-27 14:49
#43
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Turkey Sjohas 
where is bail?
2016-06-27 12:18
retired
2016-06-27 12:42
married and had a son, not gaming any more team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/CSGO/85..
2016-06-28 09:54
wow
2016-06-27 12:19
#45
suNny | 
Finland iPaZ 
who?
2016-06-27 12:19
Asian god
2016-06-27 12:21
holy shit these guys were nuts
2016-06-27 12:20
korea numba 1
2016-06-27 12:21
#51
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Russia palll 
solo 322
2016-06-27 12:22
#382
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
this guy was in cs long time be4 russian dota player even started to play dota :D
2016-06-28 11:55
solo... wow, this sure brings memories. With their work ethic and talent, I am sure they will do some major splash, given some time.
2016-06-27 12:22
ooooooooooooooo
2016-06-27 12:22
Opa gangnamstyle turutuutututu
2016-06-27 12:22
#56
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Sweden DEFENSE! 
omg solo :o
2016-06-27 12:23
#57
Russia NJM 
omg solo
2016-06-27 12:23
#58
Kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax 
SOLO PogChamp
2016-06-27 12:25
wemade.fox was such a tactic-based team in 1.6. imagine what they can do in cs:go . can't wait!
2016-06-27 12:25
#60
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Norway zyxsaje 
SOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
2016-06-27 12:25
Hope they won't end up like zonic & co.
2016-06-27 12:26
SOLO IS BACK OMG
2016-06-27 12:27
rip EU/BR/NA/AU
2016-06-27 12:27
what about kkab
2016-06-27 12:28
#65
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
-korea -legend pick one
2016-06-27 12:29
They were a pretty good team. I would even call them legends at least in the Asian scene.
2016-06-27 14:14
Solo is definitely a legend, and you could probably make a case for termi. The others not so much
2016-06-27 14:38
#288
ckN | 
Estonia ckN 
glow was the best asian player in 09/10~
2016-06-27 17:40
#189
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
SeemsGood Agreed
2016-06-27 14:51
All it took was to beat SK to become legendary
2016-06-27 15:13
#273
Laz | 
Japan Neion4ty7 
also EG and the golden 5
2016-06-27 17:05
-newfag - pick one
2016-06-27 18:35
#350
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
userid=688400 call me 'new'? LMAO
2016-06-28 04:42
dumb user as usual
2016-06-28 07:06
If you knew a bit about these players in 1.6 you wouldn't be making fun of yourself by saying that.
2016-06-28 07:07
#358
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
i have played cs since 2010 :) do you know what "legend" mean? can you tell me what they achieved to become "legend"? i heard people call markeloff, neo, spawn, zonic,... legend but termi, solo...-legend?? hell no, first time of my life i heard it :)
2016-06-28 08:46
It's hard to explain but yeah, they are legends. And I'm sure everyone will agree that.
2016-06-28 08:59
exactly, anyone who has followed the 1.6 scene would have known who Solo is and why he's qualified to be called a legend lol
2016-06-28 11:42
"played cs since 2010" LOL that was already a very late phase of the 1.6 scene dude... and before you look for my user id, ever heard of gotfrag.com?
2016-06-28 11:49
+1, he's so dumb he will look at your user id too. I myself started in 2010 but was curious of the history and back then learned that koreans had a huge history in the game!
2016-06-28 11:54
#383
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
-newfag -newfag pick one
2016-06-28 11:56
#359
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
just because they won 1 or 2 tournaments they became "legend"??? so 3 or years later, we will have NaVi fnatic LG ENVY NiP Astralis as "legend" CSGO teams??? or including g2 because they won esc??? LMAO FUCKING IDIOT
2016-06-28 08:55
It all depends. I don't think you get the idea "FUCKING IDIOT". Maybe if all of the players you mentioned start to play a new version of the game, they will be called legends.
2016-06-28 09:01
#364
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
wow, if all of cs 1.6 css players play csgo, we will have like 1000 or 2000 "legends"? try to google what "legend" mean, retard. or if you are too lazy, i have it for you 'legend:an extremely famous or notorious person, especially in a particular field' termi, solo...as a 'legend'??? THEY WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH :)
2016-06-28 09:15
You're just too dumb to comprehend something beyond the rational mind. Keep dreaming boy.
2016-06-28 11:58
#389
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
nt FUCKING IDIOT :) keepinng talking to you will make me be stupid like you :) go FUCK YOUR MOM RETARD
2016-06-28 12:41
wooop woop hahaha
2016-06-28 13:26
Yes, you are fucking new. These guys played unique counter strike. Go download one of their demos and look at their nades, mindblowing aim and wallbangs with the thought-out tactics they were famous for. They couldn't practice with Europeans, which was a huge disadvantage for them, but they still managed to play on par with them, by mastering their strats on empty maps and csdm for hours. I wouldn't call the whole WMF squad legends, but solo is definetely in the same range with forest, zonic and neo.
2016-06-28 11:21
#370
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
i don't give a fuck about their nades, aim... they can't win many tournaments, they are not legend :) watching 1.6 demo on 2016??? hell no
2016-06-28 11:27
He won't understand a single word you told him lol
2016-06-28 11:57
#390
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
yeah FUCK YOUR MOM , noob try to talk about but don't know shit LMAO
2016-06-28 12:42
10 people told you the truth and you just god mad. NEWFAG UNDER 14 CONFIRMED hahaha
2016-06-28 13:26
#393
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Bosnia and Herzegovina im_not_toxic 
i just fucked your mom and she told me you're 12. so i'm older than you. ez
2016-06-28 15:05
omfg lets go
2016-06-27 12:29
ez for the italian
2016-06-27 12:29
Coooooooool!
2016-06-27 12:30
played against solo when his team was called redcode, but anyway, doesn't mean he's going to be good at CS:GO, this is a different game, and we're much older now.
2016-06-27 12:30
Hopefully we see solo, glow and termi show that they can adapt to this game aswell and perform at a top level. I doubt it tho :/
2016-06-27 12:31
#191
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
I really hope so, I'm so desperate for Asian scene to be seen as legitimate contenders other than Tyloo ;'( PLEASE, I KNOW THEY CAN DO IT, I SAW THIS INSANE SMOKE STRAT OF THEIRS AND I WAS LIKE Kreygasm youtube.com/watch?v=jxHL0xEn9nc
2016-06-27 14:52
SOLO HYPE!!!!
2016-06-27 12:31
solo is back niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2016-06-27 12:31
#73
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Spain chanSw0w 
2016-06-27 12:32
#80
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Norway zyxsaje 
maan, memories
2016-06-27 12:34
#106
1mpala | 
Ukraine he-he  
Chillside productions <3 <3 <3
2016-06-27 12:51
#75
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Ireland deluxe^ 
omfg yes
2016-06-27 12:33
oh my god hes back!!
2016-06-27 12:33
#78
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Sweden hudgun 
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG ITS A DREAM OMGGGG
2016-06-27 12:34
#81
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Singapore Prawblems 
OH YES SOLO BACK
2016-06-27 12:35
#83
kennyS | 
World DS1337 
solo ? :o
2016-06-27 12:35
#84
Lithuania aj00 
SOLO!!
2016-06-27 12:36
solo PogChamp Korea top 1 in CS:GO again?
2016-06-27 12:38
WeMadeDraw lets go!
2016-06-27 12:38
#87
World NACS 
rip SK
2016-06-27 12:39
Korean legends ? PogChamp
2016-06-27 12:40
they wll suck hard
2016-06-27 12:42
.
2016-07-09 22:35
#92
solo | 
Ireland sekke 
Solo was my favorite player back in the late days of 1.6 along with zonic. Amazing to see him back!
2016-06-27 12:43
oh boy
2016-06-27 12:44
Wasn't lunatic-hai also from South Korea?
2016-06-27 12:44
yes they were
2016-06-27 12:58
I would like to see their come back instead of wemade fox : /
2016-06-27 13:03
WOOOOOW!! But no Bail?? :/
2016-06-27 12:47
married now
2016-06-28 00:11
#99
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Bulgaria AboveYall 
NO WAY ! WeMadeFox IS BACK ? HYPEEE WELCOME BACK TERMI, PERI AND ESPECIALLY SOLO .. GOOD MF LUCK BOYS !
2016-06-27 12:48
#100
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Europe g_G 
solo!! PogChamp
2016-06-27 12:48
Yes! Perfect timing and grenades team is back :) youtube.com/watch?v=jxHL0xEn9nc gl!
2016-06-27 12:50
#102
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Brazil mth^ 
Sick
2016-06-27 12:49
HAN SOLO YES HES BACK
2016-06-27 12:50
#104
swag | 
Latvia `DinGo 
Unexpected
2016-06-27 12:51
OMG...
2016-06-27 12:51
The problem is: They cant train alot. No Korean team is anywhere near top 50, to china the connection is 100-150ms at least most of the time and on top, to EU the connection is +250ms. The reason why MVP first didnt work is not because they suck, but because they cant improve from sucking. This does not change with the new Projekt
2016-06-27 12:52
so how did the original project kr reach their international peak in 2008? it certainly wasn't done without practicing against other talented teams
2016-06-27 12:54
2008 was another time, where there actually were korean teams with acceptable skill. These player are all playing Sudden Attack 3 now and have no reason to swap over aslong KESPA and SpoTV keep playing Sudden Attack 3 instead of CS:GO as their main FPS.
2016-06-27 12:55
#120
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France cedd 
... there are a lot of southeastern asian teams with talent. they will have plenty of decent teams to practice against.
2016-06-27 13:08
actually sudden attack 2 and ppl still playing 1 a lot then 2 i agree there is not much talents but i think it is more about adaptation
2016-06-27 13:09
uhh, they used to sit in servers by themselves practicing nades cos they had no opponents who were good enough..
2016-06-27 13:14
#193
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
THIS, FUCKING THIS, THAT SHOWS REAL DEDICATION THERE. Example of their nade strats PogChamp : youtube.com/watch?v=jxHL0xEn9nc
2016-06-27 14:53
That's the thing. This is why people came to respect them so much. They really could only practice against Lunatic-Hai. There was also Maven. Neither of these teams produced results remotely close to projectkr/eSTRO/WMF. Their success against EU teams could be attributed to their more aggressive playstyle and demo reviewing. As you know, Euros defined the meta in 1.6 throughout and there were no storage of demos to learn the meta carefully. Plus, they were well experienced by the time they achieved their more impressive wins. The core squad had been attending lans against euros since 2007.
2016-06-27 13:47
beside what youve already said, pkr/estro/wmf played vs best chinese teams all the time back then - online, random lan events, yearly asian qualifiers for bigger international lans youtube.com/watch?v=iswWWljgNcE kekeke :P
2016-06-27 14:06
They had no one to play against in their region for years before they started beating top 10 EU and NA teams back in 2008. Brazilians made a top 10 team while having next to no scene and no one of any great challenge to play against in SA in 2014. It can be done if you aren't a lazy dickdodger.
2016-06-27 13:43
Yeah, but the difference is now there is huge amounts of money in CSGO. If they improve a lot they could possible move.
2016-06-27 14:07
Why is the connection so bad? China is so close to Korea LOL.
2016-06-27 16:52
Great Firewall of China.
2016-06-27 18:08
#294
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Greece hekzy 
The connection with China these days is like 50 ping. They can easily practice with anyone they want.
2016-06-27 18:07
HLTV has mistranslated his name Geun-Chul "solo" Kang
2016-06-27 12:53
SK back to top3 teams WMF comebacking PogChamp
2016-06-27 12:53
#194
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
THE GOLDEN 1.6 DAYS ARE BACK, AND AS A NEWCOMER TO CS:GO AND THE SERIES ITSELF, I'M SO HYPED :DDDDD
2016-06-27 14:54
woah
2016-06-27 12:59
awesome! Now for them to come up with shit like this in go: youtube.com/watch?v=jxHL0xEn9nc
2016-06-27 13:07
wow
2016-06-27 13:08
ez tyloo
2016-06-27 13:08
RIP EU
2016-06-27 13:09
hype
2016-06-27 13:12
OMG I wonder when they realize that the pro scene in infected with cheats. Will they do the same? Will they still fight without? Do they already know? Niiiice
2016-06-27 13:15
#132
barce | 
Macedonia GOAIITE 
omfg lets goooo
2016-06-27 13:18
Nice to see, although there's pretty much not a single "old legend" that has had a successful comeback is this late stage apart from RpK.
2016-06-27 13:20
Don't know i think TB and savage are doing okay, with the Vici gaming sponsor and all that. Also fnx as well. Also the minor comebacks from RE1EASE, Pt and RattleSnk to play in ESEA premier.
2016-06-27 14:00
What are you talking about? you can't seriously mean that playing ESEA Premier is a worthy comeback... Cyberzen haven't done anything worth mentioning either. When we talk about a successful comeback, it means delivering the same kind of results as in the past.
2016-06-27 15:24
Reason why i stated "Minor" in the Brits case(Can't you read?), and i think most pros which come back can't even compete at an ESEA main level. Also getting to the Asian Minor and getting paid 6-7K a month salary w/ an extremely big fan base (They usually get 10+K thousand viewers at any one time when they stream) isn't a good comeback for the Vici players. Also the fact they are qualified for 3 major events to happen in China in the next 5 months which International teams will be attending, and their StarLadder I-league series XIV final run where they almost beat G2(Now FaZe) losing 2-1 w/ the second map being 14-16. Also their 4th place at the Cologne Asian Qualifier.
2016-06-27 15:40
I wouldn't even call the brits comeback a worthy "minor" comeback. Salary and streaming viewership have nothing to do with a worthy comeback, it's all about achieving something. I don't even know which tournaments your are talking about and even the qualification to such tournaments can't compare to past results. Again placing 3rd at a asian qualifier can't compare to past results. Almost beating a team ain't an achievement.
2016-06-27 16:47
I wouldn't even call the brits comeback a worthy "minor" comeback. "So basically getting good results in one of the most wanted leagues in Europe with a 5-1 record isn't a minor comeback? Which already secures them for next season and a chance for the LAN finals w/ a chance to promote to Pro League." Salary and streaming viewership have nothing to do with a worthy comeback, it's all about achieving something. "So getting a good org to back you, being able to entertain fans and getting deep run in Tournaments and explosive matches which are fun as hell to watch all across Asia and in Europe isn't a worthy comeback? Then besides LG`s miracle of finding Coldzera, it equals to nothing? " I don't even know which tournaments your are talking about and even the qualification to such tournaments can't compare to past results. "Well no shit retard? Its so much harder now, not WEG, no WCG, no IEMs which they had in strength before. They comeback they've done when China's went from No scene to a healthy developing on is amazing." Again placing 3rd at a asian qualifier can't compare to past results. "Again read above statement, and plus you really expect them to either be top 1 or its worthless? Fuck you're such a silver. Oh i got a deep run in the biggest tournament in my continent. Did you win? No? DOESNT COUNT!!!!" Almost beating a team ain't an achievement. "So first international LAN event against a team which were considered top 8 in the world at the time isn't? Fuck sorry Mr Top 1 winning every major... Oh wait xD" "Do you really expect them to come back then instantly fuck people up or it doesn't count as a worthy comeback? That's asking the impossible, even LG had to spend a year grinding w/ the core 3 while fnx and Taco were busy as fuck being coached by FalleN on a salary, scriming NA`s top and LG at the same time."
2016-06-27 18:18
Can't bother to read all that shit. My point is that it ain't a worthy comeback before they achieve atleast the same results as they did in their prime, eod.
2016-06-27 18:29
They made shit tons of results in their region and i explained why and how, But won't read. GGWP you old fuck :)
2016-06-27 18:45
Region based results doesn't compare to the international results they had in the past, so your point is invalid.
2016-06-27 18:54
Yea having only two of the original five in a region which has 1/100 of the opportunities to get to international events but still hold it to the old standard. It aint 1.Shits anymore ;)
2016-06-27 18:56
That excuse is so old, they could start by moving to EU and compete in non-region based qualifiers (the last dreamhack comes to mind). That way they could compete in the leagues aswell and grind their way up.
2016-06-27 19:10
Oh yea because moving to Europe is so easy? Not really you've got VISAs, team house, diet (Asians have a different palate to ours) and if the org will support it(It isn't like just a single European moving to America where the culture is similar, its completely different). It's one thing to pay for a team to live in their own country, paying for them to live in another one which is 100 miles away it a whole other time(Especially since there would be 7-8 of them the team, the manager and a translator or two). ESEA just came now and as far as i know and they do grind in leagues. That last Dreamhack Malmo tournament their was one place and its not a secret TyLoo is a better team. Vici gamings IGL is pretty shit to be honest from what i've seen.
2016-06-27 19:21
Excuses, excuses... Adaptation is key. VISAs shouldn't be that hard to get. If they have 10k viewers on their streams, then money shouldn't be a problem. If the organisation won't pay, then they could start talking to an EU organisation. When i said leagues i meant, ESEA and if they did well enough they could end up in E-League and ECS. I'm talking about DreamHack ZOWIE Open Summer, which had no region restrictions as long as you could play the only qualifiers, which took place in EU. They could just bootcamp in EU for those qualifiers tbh.
2016-06-27 19:40
E-league and ECS (No invites to the players.) Visas have been really hard for Chinese teams to get there have been 4-5 occasions now where they get their VISA`s denied in Europe and Especially in North America, and i think you don't understand time zones for how it would also effect their streaming for most of their fans being on the coast line regions of China. Also i don't think it would be the brightest idea to go to Europe when they just picked up a new player as well.(Bet you didn't know this piece of information)and the fact that the majority of their roster will be participating in TWC 2016 qualifier and also the other two Chinese leagues which will be happening in the following months.
2016-06-27 19:45
VISAs might be a bigger problem than i thought, but other than that all i have heard from you is excuses.
2016-06-27 19:48
rip EU CS rip NA CS
2016-06-27 13:33
YES
2016-06-27 13:34
n1
2016-06-27 13:44
#143
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China 322_csgo 
goodluck Korean
2016-06-27 13:46
PogChamp
2016-06-27 13:47
#145
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China ranxiaoxuan 
solo termi zeff wtffffffffffff ooooooooooommmffffffgggggggggg
2016-06-27 13:49
nice!
2016-06-27 13:49
#149
allu | 
Finland Fherrera 
gl guys, lets see what you can do in future
2016-06-27 13:57
#151
India vU^ 
Amazing news, I really hope they do well.
2016-06-27 14:00
Nice Güney Kore Nice seoul :) Hf
2016-06-27 14:00
TY brother :)
2016-06-28 12:11
#153
cogu | 
Brazil delfs 
RIP CHINA
2016-06-27 14:00
I just hope they don't quit like mTw.
2016-06-27 14:05
#195
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
Yes , I'm so desperate for Asian scene to be seen as real contenders :c
2016-06-27 14:56
Wow..exciting news only missing bail.
2016-06-27 14:08
- zeff + bail - peri + lsw the dream :D anyway gl to them
2016-06-27 14:11
#161
peri | 
Brazil pixzin 
do u know who is peri? did u ever watch a match of him with wemadefox in 1.6? SHUT THE FUCK UP
2016-06-27 14:12
do you know who is lsw?
2016-06-27 14:12
#164
peri | 
Brazil pixzin 
yes, he got kicked to peri join =) and hltv.org/news/5896-top-20-players-of-201.. , peri was the best rating player of WMF, and he won WEM2010 alone. carryin hard
2016-06-27 14:13
#289
ckN | 
Estonia ckN 
glow was the best, don't lie
2016-06-27 17:44
#176
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Singapore Nephalith 
The Brazilian guy is right. Peri was their best player since he joined.
2016-06-27 14:31
#180
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Brazil mth^ 
peri > lsw :>
2016-06-27 14:44
in 1.6 yes, in go we don't know :D
2016-06-27 14:51
#190
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Brazil mth^ 
will be fun to watch
2016-06-27 14:52
yes, maybe they will bring some sick strats like in 1.6 but who knows, time will tell
2016-06-27 14:58
#160
peri | 
Brazil pixzin 
Guys, register this: PERI WILL BE THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD
2016-06-27 14:12
n1 sick news;d
2016-06-27 14:12
This is HUGE! GL Legends!
2016-06-27 14:22
RIP tyloo, the beasts are back.
2016-06-27 14:24
north korea best korea.
2016-06-27 14:26
#175
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Singapore Nephalith 
f0rest is a big fanboi of solo :p
2016-06-27 14:29
#196
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
How do you know? I'm very interested to learn more about the Golden 1.6 days, can you enlighten? :OOOO
2016-06-27 14:57
#214
peri | 
Brazil pixzin 
inbox me i tell u all of these days!
2016-06-27 15:25
#271
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Singapore Nephalith 
f0rest is/was a big fan of Asian aimstars(mainly China and South Korea) like Jungle, Sakula, savage and especially solo. He was always full of praise when it comes to solo. He used to download solo's pov demos and dm routine for pure entertainment. In his old interviews and SK profile, he often stated that solo is his favorite player. Coincidentally, solo's favorite player is also f0rest. After competing against each other for the better part of 2008-2010, they also became friends. :D
2016-06-27 17:04
#368
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
Interesting :o btw you fellow Singaporean ah? :v
2016-06-28 11:16
#378
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Singapore Nephalith 
What else could I be? :o
2016-06-28 11:53
#385
Xyp9x | 
Other GunnerL 
HLTV got fake flaggers :s
2016-06-28 11:59
solo + glow = gg
2016-06-27 14:43
I want to see Korean team beat fnatic, Luminosity etc. This is will be funny for community
2016-06-27 14:44
#182
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Brazil evidence1 
is this real? solo ;~;
2016-06-27 14:44
#183
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
PogChamp
2016-06-27 14:45
#198
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
gl
2016-06-27 14:59
sick lineup i hope they will get some achievements. I liked wmf crazy strats in 1.6
2016-06-27 15:07
Take my energy solo \_/
2016-06-27 15:07
Valve should not allow them to enter majors or else RIP. Jokes aside, interesting to see what they can do after some time.
2016-06-27 15:11
Doto KR FeelsGoodMan now cs KR SeemsGood. Also who the fuck uses reddit for csgo
2016-06-27 15:16
WeMade FOX had the best tactics with smokes in 1.6 at some point. Damn, thats so good they're back.
2016-06-27 15:19
would be great if korea+china could shift from their shitty CS copy to the original bestest fps
2016-06-27 15:20
Haha most CSGO noobs dont know these players
2016-06-27 15:21
Solo PogChamp
2016-06-27 15:23
#212
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Bulgaria Molen 
they should take Savage from CyberZen even if he's Chinese
2016-06-27 15:24
#221
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World Raptrs 
as an awper? solo was better than him in 1.6
2016-06-27 15:36
#216
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Russia Gresskaret 
in starcraft?
2016-06-27 15:26
Finally a worthy opponent for TyLoo PogChamp
2016-06-27 15:28
#218
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
no bail?? :(
2016-06-27 15:31
#219
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Taiwan SCVready 
nice! hope they will be strong and practice against tyloo and vg!!
2016-06-27 15:32
solo man :O
2016-06-27 15:36
#222
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Russia death[1g] 
nice!!!
2016-06-27 15:36
#223
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Poland kRAMERO 
top10 incomming. watch and learn rookies
2016-06-27 15:37
ye top10 in 1.6
2016-06-27 16:11
They are late from the party, we have all seen how well these comebacks have in general gone anyway, many have not done all that well so lets see, maybe they can be another ok asian team tho if things go well who knows.
2016-06-27 15:39
i cant wait to see their strats.. gna be so goood
2016-06-27 15:39
oh yeaa,
2016-06-27 16:48
They always mastered everything to the tiniest bit.
2016-06-27 19:02
#228
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Brazil Collee 
nice gl koreans
2016-06-27 15:42
SOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <3
2016-06-27 15:49
#230
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Poland kingWZRD 
hyped to see solo ^^
2016-06-27 15:57
WOOOOW NICE
2016-06-27 15:58
glhf
2016-06-27 16:03
Nice..
2016-06-27 16:05
solo is back, it will be nice to see them in action, solo is for me a top15 player of all time
2016-06-27 16:13
#240
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Sweden Daquan 
another legend that returns because of the money, gg
2016-06-27 16:16
YEEEESSSSSSS E-estro backkkkk
2016-06-27 16:19
#243
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Ukraine petruska 
RIP G2
2016-06-27 16:19
hollllllllllllllllllllly fuk
2016-06-27 16:21
OMG solo
2016-06-27 16:26
Hope this isn't another fucking bait like the mTw roster was.
2016-06-27 16:31
#247
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Brazil Luca0 
gl korea
2016-06-27 16:34
goosebumps gl!
2016-06-27 16:47
This is so GREAT!
2016-06-27 16:47
Classic
2016-06-27 16:49
wow, seek for Tyloo - WMF once again.
2016-06-27 16:51
lmao look at their names the bottom guy is called bum-ki jung
2016-06-27 16:56
#268
Laz | 
Japan Neion4ty7 
PogChamp
2016-06-27 17:01
his 1.6 highlights are so impressive. see if they can get over tyloo.
2016-06-27 17:03
Solo is back.... My fav player during 1.6 times
2016-06-27 17:04
Sick! Insane Asian tactics are coming!
2016-06-27 17:08
prepare for the best strats ever!!! this is an orgasm
2016-06-27 17:11
#330
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Brazil mexicowss 
indeed boludo, it was just beautiful to see thei executions....all perfect clocked , flashs, smokes, peeking ...it was just beautiful to see
2016-06-27 21:43
AND THATS HOW IT STARTED. THE ASIAN TAKEOVER
2016-06-27 17:12
NICE
2016-06-27 17:14
The legends are back
2016-06-27 17:19
nice!!!!!!!
2016-06-27 17:22
#283
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China arbalestcn 
didn't they get real counter strike skills after returning from military service or something? lol
2016-06-27 17:24
Oh. Wow. Good luck to them! I don't have high expectations, but it'd be nice to see them reign in the Asian scene a bit.
2016-06-27 17:28
Solo any good at csgo?
2016-06-27 17:33
#287
neeve | 
Portugal neeve 
OH MY GOD
2016-06-27 17:37
hell yeah. lets go koreans
2016-06-27 17:45
NICE!!!
2016-06-27 17:56
HOLYSHIT one of my favourite teams already
2016-06-27 17:56
i know only glow and solo ;//
2016-06-27 18:08
KOREA IS BACK IN THE GAME B*TCHESSS$SSS
2016-06-27 18:08
good to see these guys back, i hope they can bring Asia to the map again, like in 1.6
2016-06-27 18:22
solo? NICEEEEEEEE
2016-06-27 18:27
GL BOYS!!!
2016-06-27 19:07
#315
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Spain Donra 
NICEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
2016-06-27 19:45
how old are they?
2016-06-27 19:53
probably the age of f0rest or GTR around 25 - 28
2016-06-27 22:01
was thinking the same. probably a lil bit late to come back
2016-06-27 22:27
+bail plz :((
2016-06-27 19:55
eSTRO solo PogChamp!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice to see asia CS coming back strong!
2016-06-27 20:14
nice, gl!
2016-06-27 20:33
Great news to CS!
2016-06-27 20:43
Solo is ok but not enough. I wanna see hee!
2016-06-27 20:50
EZ
2016-06-27 20:51
#327
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Brazil mexicowss 
oh man the nostalgy, i teared out
2016-06-27 21:31
#328
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Czech Republic NR.Kobra 
termi and solo good legends good luck :)
2016-06-27 21:34
#334
solo | 
World Kyorex 
HOLY SHIIIETTTTTT.
2016-06-27 21:54
FUCK YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH !!!
2016-06-27 22:25
looking forward to see what termi and solo can pull off :D
2016-06-27 22:52
pls bail pls bail pls baaaaaaaaaail
2016-06-27 22:58
+1 bail was sooo sick
2016-06-28 00:53
bail is more than likely not to comeback Guy is married with a kid now..
2016-06-27 23:40
+1. And his kid plays for Tyloo. Attacker
2016-06-28 09:11
#377
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
zeus is married with at least 2 kids =]
2016-06-28 11:52
HUGE, solo heading to top
2016-06-28 00:03
unexpected
2016-06-28 00:06
1.6 gods
2016-06-28 01:31
OMG HOLY SHIT !!!! 1.6 GODS IS RETURN !!!! GOGO wemadefox GOGO solo, glow
2016-06-28 02:46
When an Asian makes a comeback, the grind is real. He will put the hours in.
2016-06-28 05:13
#357
KRIMZ | 
Slovakia EvErisT 
<3 gl boys
2016-06-28 07:49
#371
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CIS straNzie 
-zeff +enemy or +bail
2016-06-28 11:32
#376
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
bail gonna be good <3
2016-06-28 11:51
zeff pretty good also
2016-06-28 12:13
Kore IE users. WTF 2016
2016-06-28 11:39
#375
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
WOW glgl~
2016-06-28 11:51
solo 322
2016-06-28 16:52
holly shit. awesome. gl guys
2016-06-28 18:46
<3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! living for this
2016-06-28 18:46
#400
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Portugal reloadnvc 
glow was a beast, dont know at csgo
2016-06-28 20:27
does anyone know how old these guys are now?
2016-06-29 02:33
good luck :)
2016-07-02 19:02
#409
dennis | 
Slovakia Jarci 
This will be sick cant wait for new epic strats by wmf
2016-07-02 19:06
#411
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Argentina ccritical 
So when will we see this?
2016-08-26 15:30
#412
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Canada vesCah 
Are these guys still together? Is this actually happening? lol
2016-08-26 16:59
Nothing much seems to be happening, unfortunately. Their steam group: steamcommunity.com/groups/MVPK Hopefully we get to see them in matches sometime soon. Excited to see what their performance will be like
2016-08-29 02:10
Will they ever play?!
2016-08-31 05:27
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