SK, Team X disqualified from ELEAGUE

SK Gaming and Team X have both been disqualified from ELEAGUE due to roster changes, the tournament's commissioner Min-Sik Ko has revealed. 

The Brazilian team had secured a berth in the quarter-finals after topping Group A while still at Luminosity, whereas the Danish team were due to play in the last-chance bracket after finishing in second place in Group C while representing SK.

ELEAGUE has not yet formally commented on this matter, but the tournament's commissioner, Min-Sik Ko, explained that the Brazilian players' recent move to SK Gaming and the Danish team's departure from the German organisation "do not comply" with the league's rules. 

The reason for this is that neither SK nor Luminosity can field the roster that they submitted at the start of the season, which means that the league's spots belong to organisations and not to the competing teams.


Brazilians handed heavy blow 

On May 31, Min-Sik Ko publicly stated that "there were no plans to sanction either team", but he was merely referring to the contract dispute between SK and Luminosity that had been reported days earlier

SK Gaming captain Gabriel "⁠FalleN⁠" Toledo took to Twitter to express his shock at the decision, which, in his eyes, punishes his team for seeking better conditions.

Those sentiments were echoed by Team X member Michael "⁠Friis⁠" Jørgensen, who claims that his team were "ignored" by ELEAGUE officials during the process.

Cloud9 have been moved from the last-chance bracket straight to the playoffs as a result of this decision, with Renegades and Gambit Gaming having both earned spots in the last-chance bracket, which now looks as follows:

Australia Renegades vs. Ukraine FlipSid3
Russia Gambit vs. Poland Virtus.pro
     
France G2 vs. Germany mousesports
Europe FaZe vs. United States CLG

The top two teams from the last-chance qualifier, which will run from July 12-15, will secure spots in the single-elimination playoffs, joining the following six teams:

Sweden NIP Denmark Astralis Sweden fnatic
CIS Natus Vincere France Envy United States Cloud9

*UPDATE* The article has been updated to give more context to Min-Sik Ko's May 31 tweet, which merely referred to the reported contract dispute between SK and Luminosity. At the time, the ELEAGUE official stated that there were no plans to sanction either team, but the Brazilian team would only sign for SK on July 1.

Denmark Michael 'Friis' Jørgensen
Michael 'Friis' Jørgensen
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
604
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
29
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
344
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.60
#1
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Iceland fatboislim
aww sad omg coldzera visited my profile :O
2016-07-06 20:16
48 replies
LUL
2016-07-06 20:14
40 replies
#62
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Turkey Mustafa-
I'm think he don't like brazilians in CSGO scene cuz they're top 1 right now and beating every single team. So i mean obvious ex-LG will win EL so easy and he wanted to didn't happen or it doesnt make sense what a shame LUL
2016-07-06 20:21
35 replies
OMG RIP ELEAGUE
2016-07-06 20:14
30 replies
rip eleague, will be boring
2016-07-06 20:18
24 replies
Fallen has a good point. E-League without SK will be borring af. I'm not going to stay from 6pm to 4am to watch shitty matches
2016-07-06 20:20
23 replies
Fallen don't know the contract he signed with Luminosity and LAW. > Acting like a victim FAllen don't know the rules about E-League. > Acting like a victim
2016-07-06 20:29
22 replies
what she said, that
2016-07-06 20:33
haha so True ELeague made a shitty rule due to inexperience But they make the right decision in enforcing the Bad Rule Next logic Step is Change Rule for next Season To the Spot lays in 3 Core Players not in the Team with 3 Key Players
2016-07-06 20:35
4 replies
Well It's not necesairly a bad rule. They want the orgs because of the brand not because of the players. Also a rule like this can prevent a team that lost in groups to buy a better team that passed in groups.
2016-07-06 23:13
3 replies
Yes Contracts just have to change That they fit with the Leagues
2016-07-07 03:29
2 replies
I think you can have 3/5 of team and keep ur spot. You don't have whole teams switch from org every day. Not really necessary.
2016-07-07 04:18
1 reply
I just think that We should get 1 League, 3 majors majors are spread over 2 Weeks And all this shit wouldn't be neccessary
2016-07-07 05:12
#401
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Italy ROMAG
E-league is retard and it's fallen fault, imagine if a legend team change the org and the major decide that they aren't legends anymore bc they changed the org
2016-07-06 20:39
10 replies
Turner Sport is inexperienced in CS Teams dont just change Orgs in TBS's normal sport Leagues That rule happend because of inexperience That doesn't make them retardet or dumb
2016-07-06 20:59
7 replies
"Turner Sport is inexperienced" You can't be this naive.
2016-07-06 22:03
1 reply
IN CS You quote worse then the Media In Turners normal sports Teams don't switch Orgs
2016-07-06 22:23
"But they make the right decision in enforcing the Bad Rule". Another pearl...pls, just stahp spreading your 'thoughts'. ty
2016-07-06 22:04
4 replies
Stop spreading your opinion in a Forum Most retarded thing I read today
2016-07-06 22:30
3 replies
What u expect from monkey? Bending rules in the end is always bad. If there's a rule you have to enforce it. Even if it's "wrong". Or else you lose credibility and escape responsability.
2016-07-06 23:16
2 replies
show me the rule and ill shut up.
2016-07-07 03:43
1 reply
SK DQ happened because SK had another team in Eleague that lost in their group. Now they get another team that passed their group and get free spot in play offs on fucking television. Org holds spot, not players that's how this league works. If players held spot, each team would start going to better paying orgs if they passed to play offs. And these orgs will pay a lot of money just to be on national television. See the problem? And LG got DQ because more than 3/5 of their roster left Don't be mad, sk will be back for s2.
2016-07-07 04:24
Why? For enforcing a rule? Sure, it was a shitty one but it's still a rule. Why shouldn't they enforce it? Besides, they need C9 for the viewers xD
2016-07-06 22:03
1 reply
#681
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Italy ROMAG
Ye they're retards the only league that make a rule for change orgs, also they said it was because the roster change Team X: added 2 players ; less than 50% of the team Sk: only changed the org
2016-07-06 23:40
yeah, "they lied to us and forced us to join" turned into "getting better and evolving" lmao
2016-07-06 20:45
a bad rule is a bad rule, it doesn't matter if this is on TV or not, you never punish the players, you punish the Orgs....
2016-07-06 21:03
3 replies
BRAZILS CRY KKKKKKKKKKK
2016-07-06 21:38
2 replies
#779
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Brazil xLeWx
16x0 Renegades...
2016-07-07 05:54
1 reply
cheat kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2016-07-07 07:35
nope, ill celebrate this cuz cheaters were finally kicked out from this tournement
2016-07-06 20:27
3 replies
now suddently only SK is cheating? people forgot of shox, flusha? dumb silvers logic.
2016-07-06 21:08
2 replies
its a b8, m8, calm down and i can add u on steam if u wanna see my rank which is global elite
2016-07-06 21:30
#587
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World madman112
>one guy comments >people >silvers heh
2016-07-06 22:08
the guys at eleuage probably know some fnatic, g2 or navi players and want to give them a chance to win.
2016-07-07 01:16
#100
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Ireland Mackey91
What a shame, so sad for Team X
2016-07-06 20:15
1 reply
#113
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Germany GODsuNny
Cheaters expected
2016-07-06 20:15
+1 Burgers are trying to make it easier for murican teams by disqualifying good EU and SA teams...
2016-07-06 20:26
you are retarded lol
2016-07-06 20:34
RIP Favelas R u mad ? cuz i'm not
2016-07-06 20:14
2 replies
#281
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Brazil Chiquiim
Yeah, now maybe a sweden team can win it
2016-07-06 20:26
1 reply
We own Cologne bro. Don't understand what you're talking about.
2016-07-06 20:27
LUL
2016-07-06 21:34
thank mr. ELEAGUE
2016-07-06 20:15
2
2016-07-06 20:14
WHAT :d
2016-07-06 20:14
a
2016-07-06 20:15
#193
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Faroe Islands racc00n
my too :o
2016-07-06 20:20
lol wdf so e league caught sk cheating and they disqualifed them
2016-07-06 20:21
it clearly look fishy. only na teams signing petition, c9 straight into playoffs, notifying sk by twitter... eu teams should back them up and withdraw. let na enjoy their own 3rd tier teams.
2016-07-07 04:41
Well i was not expecting this
2016-07-06 20:14
3 replies
WESA STRIKES!!!
2016-07-06 20:15
1 reply
i are think that
2016-07-06 20:22
Sarcasm? Or did you think eleague will make exception for SK? It was known that they might be kicked becaude shit rules
2016-07-06 20:23
#4
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Portugal mrsc
stupid chinaman
2016-07-06 20:14
4 replies
yes dont know shit about cs and cant play it always these half asian half burger kids jeez
2016-07-06 20:32
1 reply
"half asian half burger" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2016-07-07 05:51
they are trying to make like the NFL "franchise" rules... but they forgot that CS, is not NFL, don't punish the players, every Major tournament does that, EL took a different route...
2016-07-06 21:07
this rule is stupid we all dont care about the tag they play and the org they represent we care about the players we like to watch if sk(ex-lg) plays with Favela TAG or any other tag it doesnt matter... we want to see a good game, thats all.
2016-07-06 21:09
#5
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Europe Scottxaxa
lol
2016-07-06 20:14
#6
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Denmark Muamelele
1
2016-07-06 20:14
rew
2016-07-06 20:14
shame
2016-07-06 20:14
xd
2016-07-06 20:14
#10
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Ireland Mackey91
What a shame, so sad for Team X
2016-07-06 20:15
gg
2016-07-06 20:14
World First!!
2016-07-06 20:14
wow
2016-07-06 20:14
lol
2016-07-06 20:14
#15
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United States KpleeZy
1
2016-07-06 20:14
FUCK EL
2016-07-06 20:19
e
2016-07-06 20:14
rekt
2016-07-06 20:14
f*ck eleague
2016-07-06 20:14
4 replies
they just lost a really big audience... i just watched elegue matches that sk(ex-lg) played, like most brazilians... now i have no reason to watch this league anymore what was about to be a nice tournament, with television cover and all, just turn into a shit tournament without the best team of csgo atm
2016-07-06 21:06
3 replies
You think that many people only watch eleague for SK? LOL we need more csgo fans in here, tired of this I only watch my fav team bullshit
2016-07-06 21:34
2 replies
I don't -only watch my fav team- but if u fuck my fav team, i'll fuck them all
2016-07-06 22:45
i said that most brazilians (like me) watched eleague because of SK. This is obvious, you will always follow your favorite team, that doesnt mean that you wont watch other games, but i wont chance my routine just to watch some shit team that is playing, if i am on the computer with free time, i watch it, of course. I just said, that by taking this decision, they will probably loose a big audience from sk fans.
2016-07-06 23:16
shame
2016-07-06 20:14
what
2016-07-06 20:14
#22
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Brazil mibrzera
BRASILIAN FEAR
2016-07-06 20:14
dafuq
2016-07-06 20:14
#24
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Romania Tise
What a shame, NOT
2016-07-06 20:14
#25
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Brazil Cupinxa
shame
2016-07-06 20:14
wtf
2016-07-06 20:14
rekt
2016-07-06 20:14
gg
2016-07-06 20:14
bs
2016-07-06 20:14
RIP :(
2016-07-06 20:14
1st
2016-07-06 20:14
bullshit
2016-07-06 20:14
ez
2016-07-06 20:14
sad for ex-sk they did nothing wrong
2016-07-06 20:14
5 replies
they broke the rules that were set.
2016-07-06 20:15
4 replies
Their org did, team X had no chance to do anything in this situation
2016-07-06 20:18
1 reply
they are committed to the org and there are rules set for the orgs
2016-07-06 20:36
How did players sitting around waiting for their next matches break any rules?
2016-07-06 20:19
1 reply
#242
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Russia stat1c
favelas should've thought with their brans instead of their greed, sucks that teamX is out though - they dindu nuffin'
2016-07-06 20:24
#38
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Brazil rickz1996
wtf
2016-07-06 20:14
not good
2016-07-06 20:14
fucking retarded, absurd
2016-07-06 20:14
lul
2016-07-06 20:14
rip
2016-07-06 20:14
#43
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Finland kizmo
lol
2016-07-06 20:14
#44
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Sri Lanka King Ye
good
2016-07-06 20:14
MIN SIK KO
2016-07-06 20:14
1 reply
MEU SAK KO
2016-07-06 20:17
Press F to pay respects
2016-07-06 20:14
LOL
2016-07-06 20:14
LOL
2016-07-06 20:14
lolololol
2016-07-06 20:14
rip
2016-07-06 20:14
rofl
2016-07-06 20:14
RIP
2016-07-06 20:14
#54
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Slovenia umadbrah
rekt
2016-07-06 20:14
#56
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Brazil romp
SHAME
2016-07-06 20:14
WESA STRIKES!
2016-07-06 20:14
Rofl
2016-07-06 20:14
#59
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Israel ZiinTotH
WHAT
2016-07-06 20:14
good
2016-07-06 20:14
what?
2016-07-06 20:14
ahahah
2016-07-06 20:14
What roaster changes?
2016-07-06 20:14
#66
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Brazil RICIOLI
ridiculous
2016-07-06 20:14
expected from favela, sad for denmarkis :v(
2016-07-06 20:14
#69
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Norway zyxsaje
finally a tournament for human being
2016-07-06 20:14
1 reply
rekt lololo
2016-07-06 20:18
Team X?
2016-07-06 20:14
2 replies
Former SK roster
2016-07-06 20:15
1 reply
#574
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Brazil 2knexi
ty
2016-07-06 21:57
lol
2016-07-06 20:14
lol fuck EL!
2016-07-06 20:14
#74
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Brunei br0ks
nice decision, fair :)
2016-07-06 20:14
#75
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Brazil PepeSilvia
LMAO
2016-07-06 20:14
rigged
2016-07-06 20:15
3 replies
ex-sk
2016-07-06 20:15
EX-SK Gaming.
2016-07-06 20:16
es-SK Gaming team
2016-07-06 20:17
+1
2016-07-06 20:14
wtf lol
2016-07-06 20:14
lol
2016-07-06 20:14
Rekt. That's what you get for doing shady deals.
2016-07-06 20:14
1 reply
yeah, team x are so fuckin shady...
2016-07-06 20:57
#82
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Brazil 1RevoLTz
North americans leagues LUL
2016-07-06 20:14
#83
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Argentina Reymon
stupid rules!
2016-07-06 20:14
Fear us
2016-07-06 20:14
hahaahahahahaaha
2016-07-06 20:14
TOOOOOOOP KEEEEEEEEK
2016-07-06 20:14
Easy tournament for Na'Vi now lol
2016-07-06 20:14
rip ELeague
2016-07-06 20:14
RIP
2016-07-06 20:14
LG Loyal
2016-07-06 20:14
wtf
2016-07-06 20:15
Stupid
2016-07-06 20:15
this is ridiculous, shitty organization
2016-07-06 20:15
Fuck eleague then, SK are the owners of the throne and they are already rich, worth
2016-07-06 20:15
RIP Favelas
2016-07-06 20:15
what roster changes did LG do?
2016-07-06 20:15
not fair.
2016-07-06 20:15
wtf Eleague
2016-07-06 20:15
#103
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Costa Rica Gomezio
RIP
2016-07-06 20:15
HAHAH FAK FAVELAS XDDDD
2016-07-06 20:15
That is so fucking stupid also what happened with this twitter.com/minsikko/status/737435961135..
2016-07-06 20:15
3 replies
#256
nukkye | 
United States yvr
rofl
2016-07-06 20:24
that's not really relevant anymore. no one knew whether the players would be switching organizations or not back then.
2016-07-06 20:30
Context...
2016-07-06 22:31
xD
2016-07-06 20:15
#108
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Portugal 69_mL
rip sk
2016-07-06 20:15
we just need majors..
2016-07-06 20:15
complexity to replace SK?
2016-07-06 20:15
eleague is shit
2016-07-06 20:15
1 reply
Shit might be an understatement.
2016-07-06 20:18
#114
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United States Say Apple
LOL
2016-07-06 20:15
That sucks for Team X since they had no say in the changes...
2016-07-06 20:15
2 replies
+1
2016-07-06 20:20
#354
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Serbia Djomla2
+1
2016-07-06 20:31
Wow, even tho i'm not Brazilian that is fucking stupid.
2016-07-06 20:15
LOL NO
2016-07-06 20:15
very good
2016-07-06 20:15
why did they announce it today? instead of 1 week ago when they started playing for SK?
2016-07-06 20:15
1 reply
They had to write the rule first
2016-07-06 20:30
VALVE WONT BAN THEM, SO BLACK DDK WILL B)
2016-07-06 20:15
#123
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Other rez9
thats a shame.
2016-07-06 20:15
top kek rule, gg shit na league, na ruins cs
2016-07-06 20:15
#126
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Australia closet
:((
2016-07-06 20:15
1 reply
Dw ez for renegades with big Rickeh
2016-07-07 02:48
#128
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India Mr_giddy
Lol
2016-07-06 20:15
well okay there min sik ko
2016-07-06 20:15
lol now eu can actully win something
2016-07-06 20:16
finally this day has some good news thank mr.eleague
2016-07-06 20:16
Fuck Eleague :) SK top1 team...
2016-07-06 20:16
#134
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Brazil plankzoid
/BAN ELEAGUE 99999999999 "RIP ELEAGUE"
2016-07-06 20:16
2016-07-06 20:16
Ok. Clearly they wanna see a NA team winning the League :))
2016-07-06 20:16
1 reply
+1
2016-07-06 20:17
No way this is happening holy fuck WHYYYYYYYY
2016-07-06 20:16
they had to do this because fat burgerbrain amerifats would get too confused if same players were playing under different team
2016-07-06 20:16
EL? disrespect with us! bullshit because we don't deserve it! The tournament lose a lot if us out! We always smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
2016-07-06 20:16
11 replies
mano essa porra de smart loyal friendly etc é muita doença, para de falar isso sério, não é legal
2016-07-06 20:21
10 replies
Para de ser chato, é legal sim.
2016-07-06 20:28
7 replies
não é não cara, coisa de retardado
2016-07-06 20:36
6 replies
+1
2016-07-06 20:56
1 reply
+1 concordo, coisa de criança retardada
2016-07-07 05:54
#474
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Brazil saulop
É retardado demais isso que ele faz
2016-07-06 20:59
Coisa de doente mental. A porra do fórum inteiro odeia os br por causa desses retardados...
2016-07-06 21:46
É legal pra caralho, BuddyInsane é mito! Retardado são vcs moleques querendo parecer bonito pros gringos lmao
2016-07-06 22:08
1 reply
como consegue achar isso legal, fala serio?! "nós espertos, nós leais, nós amigável, nós somos do brasil" a frase, além de estar escrita de forma errada, deixa claro que quem escreveu foi uma criança de uns 10 anos de idade. qualquer frase não retardada que demonstre orgulho do brasil ou do time brasileiro é totalmente válida e tem meu apoio, mas essa merda ai não dá pra aguentar... fala "go brazil", até "go favela" é melhor que isso
2016-07-07 06:03
man he is not even barisiliano he wont understanderini shiterinos
2016-07-06 22:25
1 reply
#698
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Sweden crindz
wow +1
2016-07-07 00:26
COngratulations, amazing decision! You just lost all the massive audience from Brazil!
2016-07-06 20:16
3 replies
#243
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Brazil ptL^^
+1
2016-07-06 20:23
#288
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
no.
2016-07-06 20:26
+1 RiP esporte interativo
2016-07-06 20:59
they deserve it
2016-07-06 20:16
1 reply
+1
2016-07-06 20:22
#143
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CIS Laggy
rofl
2016-07-06 20:16
lol thats bullshit
2016-07-06 20:16
#145
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Brazil pdho
SHAME, THE WORD IS SHAME.
2016-07-06 20:17
#146
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Brazil Nobuga
Fuck Eleague
2016-07-06 20:17
Joke :>
2016-07-06 20:17
nice rules
2016-07-06 20:17
#149
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Latvia kjyy
eleague hates brazil
2016-07-06 20:17
Give their spot to Tyloo
2016-07-06 20:17
#154
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Brazil vass28
lol fucking joke, shit tournament dont deserve the best players atm
2016-07-06 20:18
2 replies
so kicking makes it a shit tournament but before it was the best tournament.
2016-07-06 20:29
1 reply
#425
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Brazil vass28
Never was the best tournament, but now its pretty sure that its the worst one, this is just unfair.
2016-07-06 20:44
This is a fucking joke nothing more.
2016-07-06 20:18
due to change org No, you're out because you're a fuckwit that failed to communicate or deal with your problems like an adult.
2016-07-06 20:18
4 replies
ie due to change org
2016-07-06 20:19
2 replies
Org change and the ban are both the result of Fallen and co.'s actions. Learn how causation works.
2016-07-06 20:25
1 reply
ie due to change org
2016-07-06 20:25
+1
2016-07-06 20:34
#159
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Switzerland Sylleo
the danish players have nothing to do with that wtf no class
2016-07-06 20:18
deserves
2016-07-06 20:18
Disqualified for cheating actually, but paid them money to keep their mouth shut ;)
2016-07-06 20:18
This makes no sense at all.
2016-07-06 20:18
expected
2016-07-06 20:18
hahahaha rekt
2016-07-06 20:18
WTF ?!
2016-07-06 20:18
LOOOL well deserved
2016-07-06 20:18
what a shame
2016-07-06 20:18
#173
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Germany liddeb0b
haha only because they want that shitty c9 for the amerifat viewers!! bravo
2016-07-06 20:18
1 reply
Exactly,they don't care about quality counter strike. They care about the amerifats watching their show
2016-07-06 20:20
NA DONT WANT BRAZIL First immortals and now sk racist is real
2016-07-06 20:21
Somehow I fail to see the problem in just swapping LGs name to SK and SK's name to Team X and the league continues as is.
2016-07-06 20:19
2 replies
#188
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Brazil Dark182
+1 <3
2016-07-06 20:19
Exactly
2016-07-06 20:45
and what now extra slot goes to NA dogshit clown9 team LANquit fuck you eleaque !!!!
2016-07-06 20:19
Expected.
2016-07-06 20:19
Rules are rules even if they are retarded. But maybe it's karma for their shady deals
2016-07-06 20:19
1 reply
rules are made to make the tournament work in the best way as possible if a rule is contradictory and therefore is not helping or harming the tournament, then it obviously should be fucking changed. Rules can be changed when they suck, there is no such bullshit like "rules are rules"
2016-07-06 20:51
#184
nukkye | 
United States yvr
wow sad :/ I kinda wanted to see team X continue at ELEAGUE with valde, shame really
2016-07-06 20:25
Now what does eleague have? A less respectful tournament. They omly have the prize pool and half of the shitty t3 NAteams because they don't allow decent teams to compete.
2016-07-06 20:19
#186
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Argentina sheshev
seriously?
2016-07-06 20:19
ridiculous
2016-07-06 20:19
wtf
2016-07-06 20:19
Feel sad for Team-X .. They did nothing wrong, and what happened where out of their "own hands" - now they get punished for that. And a team getting kicked for changing org.
2016-07-06 20:20
So, Cloud9 and NRG will replace them?
2016-07-06 20:21
2 replies
C9 replaced SK and renegades replaced c9
2016-07-06 20:23
#280
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World mackzim
ex-sk played in the same group of astralis
2016-07-06 20:26
ahahah good riddance favelas
2016-07-06 20:19
SHAMEEEEEEEEEEE
2016-07-06 20:20
Even as an american who hates favelas i gotta say this move was completely retarded. Not watchin eleague ever again,
2016-07-06 20:20
1 reply
why do you hate me?
2016-07-06 20:23
rules are rules cya SK noobz
2016-07-06 20:20
huehuehue
2016-07-06 20:20
Gr8 news
2016-07-06 20:20
3 replies
#230
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Brazil sprk1
sk would rekt g2 right? good for you
2016-07-06 20:23
2 replies
#310
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
like they did on ecs right? OPS...
2016-07-06 20:28
Ez eleague win for G2 now, bye bye brazil
2016-07-06 20:28
C9 going instead of SK. What a freaking sellout, LMAO
2016-07-06 20:20
4 replies
why is it a sellout? its pretty obvious to take the team who finished second. Hopefully they change this rule to season2
2016-07-06 20:57
3 replies
Giving 3 slots to the LCQ would be fair IMO. C9 sucked during group stage, don't deserve to go straight to playoffs.
2016-07-06 20:59
2 replies
Yea mby, but like i said, hopefully they change this rule so it cant happen again and invite ex-sk and compensate new sk:d Nahh, they played against LG in the group final and took a map, i think they did good imo
2016-07-06 21:11
?????????????? c9 almost beat ex-LG in the finals, stop being a retard
2016-07-07 00:09
HAHAHA NICE!
2016-07-06 20:21
Really dumb rules. Even more stupid move is to drop this in the middle of a major.
2016-07-06 20:21
6 replies
#273
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
+1, that timing shows the hate they have for non-NA
2016-07-06 20:25
5 replies
#744
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North America Foxaika
Not really? Really doubt it has anything to do with them not being from North America.
2016-07-07 03:48
4 replies
#832
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
The decision was signed by 7 teams from NA: Cloud9, Counter Logic Gaming, Echo Fox, NRG Esports, OpTic Gaming, Team Liquid e Team SoloMid.
2016-07-07 14:45
3 replies
#834
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North America Foxaika
But still against the rules regardless. Blaming NA teams for following the rules is asinine.
2016-07-07 14:48
2 replies
#837
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
I'm blaming whoever had the idea on making this decision on the middle of the major. Should wait till after the finals, SK will probably be there.
2016-07-07 14:59
1 reply
#838
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North America Foxaika
That's fair enough, I agree. Don't think that is the fault of North America either though.
2016-07-07 14:59
#207
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Norway Napapijri
fuck yeah! bye bye, sk
2016-07-06 20:21
Deserved. Well done ELEAGUE.
2016-07-06 20:21
This is stupid....
2016-07-06 20:21
WESA?
2016-07-06 20:21
#212
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Finland Emvi
Eleague is about orgs sponsors and money, not about the players or a competetive scene. Fuck eleague
2016-07-06 20:21
2 replies
#298
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
But man, for the first time ever we were having a CS tournament on TV here in Brazil. It was E f*cking League. You can see by the HLTV fans how much views we can give. EDIT: not about money, just hate or NA proud I guess
2016-07-06 20:28
other than fuck eleague that is very true
2016-07-06 21:06
ok...
2016-07-06 20:21
that's what you get for being a bunch of scumbags lul
2016-07-06 20:21
7 replies
#248
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Finland Emvi
and how were they scumbags exactly? Changing the org should never equal to disqualification
2016-07-06 20:23
6 replies
if you actually payed attention you would know what actually happened
2016-07-06 20:24
5 replies
#299
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Finland Emvi
I know what happened. And none of it should equal to disqualification. Especially for ex-SK who didn't do anything wrong.
2016-07-06 20:27
4 replies
for real? they fucked the lg owner knowingly over? wow.
2016-07-06 20:36
3 replies
He was talking about ex-SK. And I think they didn't do anything wrong to be disqualified. They weren't involved in any controversy but still got disqualified and that makes me feel bad for them.
2016-07-07 10:59
2 replies
he talks about ex lg
2016-07-07 15:10
1 reply
I think he is talking about the old SK roster. But nvm I may be wrong. Cheers bro. Have a good day.
2016-07-07 15:31
#215
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
Nice timing making the decision on the middle of the Major, dumbf*cks
2016-07-06 20:21
1 reply
#338
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
gonna cry? DDD=
2016-07-06 20:30
Worst decision in CS:GO scene since -Kio +Devil from Envy. Good work, Eleague, can't even work around own rules for the best team in the world, who just got fkd by crazy turns of events.
2016-07-06 20:22
#218
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Czech Republic MrM4sl0
changing org = changing roster Chin Chongs in CS gtfo rly
2016-07-06 20:22
fuck EL, boycott this fucking shit
2016-07-06 20:22
#220
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Brazil sprk1
bullshit
2016-07-06 20:22
F*CK YOU E-LEAGUE!!! Cyka blyat...
2016-07-06 20:22
rekt
2016-07-06 20:22
topkek
2016-07-06 20:22
All teams must submit their five (5) man roster, including two (2) subs, by May 18th, 5:00pm EST to chase. hammet@img.com. Well, what is a team? The five man roster or the org that represents them? This is open to objection
2016-07-06 20:22
9 replies
That's a really good point to analyse
2016-07-06 20:24
1 reply
Yes, if the team is what consists of the five man roster (taco,fln,fer,fnx, cold) then this elimination is baseless. The rules do NOT clarify that ORGS must send their representative roster hitherto may 18th, it only implies.
2016-07-06 20:26
ikr but maybe IMT could get their spot idk
2016-07-06 20:24
If the entire Leicester City team was sold to Chelsea, could Chelsea compete in this season's Champions League?
2016-07-06 22:26
5 replies
No, but it is not a definitive argument, since in majors the players are the ones that hold the spot and not specific orgs.
2016-07-06 22:29
4 replies
But in majors they can't even make a single roster change even before the tournament starts...never mind right in the middle That's why adren had to return to liquid for colombus If you let this happen then astralis could pay fnatic £10k to let them borrow flusha for their next match
2016-07-06 22:55
3 replies
In fact they can, what they can't do is have less than 3 of the original qualified line up. And players can't compete two times in the same major for different teams, like the kjaerbye situation.
2016-07-06 22:53
2 replies
"And players can't compete two times in the same major for different teams" SK & LG
2016-07-06 22:56
1 reply
Yes, this are the major rules. This discussion was clarified in my thread about this and eleague is right,not because of this, but because they signed the contracts with eleague with the orgs as representatives of the team.
2016-07-06 22:59
Wow, really?A League willing to bring Esport to TV without the best team to put up a show?Can't they make an exception?
2016-07-06 20:22
Who's gonna get theirs spots?
2016-07-06 20:22
1 reply
c9
2016-07-06 20:24
WTF. This is so stupid. So if an org with no previous CS team would have bought LG guys, all would be OK? This is MADNESS.
2016-07-06 20:22
So does this disqualify CLG too? They changed roster over the past month or does this rule only apply to changing orgs? Not that it matters much since CLG is terrible now.
2016-07-06 20:23
They would win the eleague ... RiP [*]
2016-07-06 20:23
lmfao fucking joke of a league
2016-07-06 20:23
rules are rules. fair or not doesnt matter thats life
2016-07-06 20:23
1 reply
rules are made to make the tournament work in the best way as possible if a rule is contradictory and therefore is not helping or harming the tournament, then it obviously should be fucking changed. Rules can be changed when they suck, there is no such bullshit like "rules are rules"
2016-07-06 20:52
ayy lmao eleague more like bad-league
2016-07-06 20:23
Diskualikai dem from Majorrrr!!!!
2016-07-06 20:23
wtf... because of that SK will win this major.
2016-07-06 20:23
1 reply
#364
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
no, they will win because of hacks. :D
2016-07-06 20:33
LOL
2016-07-06 20:23
rekted
2016-07-06 20:23
Rip Favelas
2016-07-06 20:23
GGWP eLeague... who lose with it is your event. It was a nosense decision... change orgs are common in esports.
2016-07-06 20:28
rip eleague
2016-07-06 20:23
#249
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United States snack-
If they had the rules in place about poaching prior to the SK LG change then it is a good ruling. I don't know anything about the rules but if whatever they did was against the rules then it is right that ELEAUGUE held up the rules even for the best team in the world
2016-07-06 20:23
4 replies
+1 rule is a rule.
2016-07-06 20:27
1 reply
#313
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United States snack-
However I do believe ex-SK shouldn't be disqualified. They literally did nothing wrong they just got dropped by an org and had 2 roster changes which under the rules was allowed
2016-07-06 20:28
#339
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
I agree with you. But EL made an statement saying "the change won't affect any of the teams negatively". So it's a mess
2016-07-06 20:30
1 reply
#368
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United States snack-
Idk why they punished ex sk tho that seems stupid. SK ruling was probably reviewed and ruled accordingly.
2016-07-06 20:33
the one whos gonna lose more is eleague. SK is the best team atm and MUST be at the championship... so sad
2016-07-06 20:25
such stupid move from ELEAGUE, u guys should grown up from inside.
2016-07-06 20:24
What a fucking stupid decision. This probably the worst decision ive ever seen in my entire life watching cs
2016-07-06 20:24
3 replies
rules
2016-07-06 20:29
2 replies
So what? Still doesnt change the fact that this rules is RIDICULOUS. They play with 5 man and no changes. Rules is rules. Top kek.
2016-07-06 21:41
1 reply
as you said "rules is rules"
2016-07-06 21:48
RIP E-League
2016-07-06 20:24
Because of this C9 got SK's spot. gg
2016-07-06 20:24
Fuck eleague
2016-07-06 20:24
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA favelas
2016-07-06 20:24
So damn good seeing how those people get happy just because SK aren't able to play this tournament no more. It just prove how this team are better than the other ones. On the other hand it's sad ELEAGUE takes down a team just because the players did something to improve their profissionality scene.
2016-07-06 20:25
3 replies
it's kinda stupid to disqualify them just because they are under a different name. They didn't even change players or anything
2016-07-06 20:27
not all europeans are retarded kids, this is sad for CSGO community, we just want to watch good games with the best players ( SK, fnatic, NaVi, G2, NiP )
2016-07-06 20:28
1 reply
#796
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Serbia whoa!!
real discodoplan?
2016-07-07 07:19
Haha karma is real for cheating piece of shits
2016-07-06 20:25
2 replies
cheating? lol grow up!
2016-07-06 20:25
#370
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
+1000
2016-07-06 20:34
OK, Dont let SK play but wtf not allow Team X to play. They get dropped by their team so then they get disqualified. Just because they get kicked they cannot play?
2016-07-06 20:25
7 replies
Team X didn't qualify for the playoffs anyways, so it doesn't really matter.
2016-07-06 20:26
6 replies
5 replies
Oh right. Now Renegades are taking their spot.
2016-07-06 20:30
4 replies
Why would a team from a different group take their spot? LOL.
2016-07-06 20:31
3 replies
Because ex-SK and Mouz were in last chance qulifier , 3rd were Renegades and 4th Gambit. So they are both going in last chance qualifier. Meanwhile G2 is taking SK's spot and doesn't need to qualify.
2016-07-06 20:35
2 replies
G2 is taking ex-SK's spot or current? if you mean current then no, that's C9.
2016-07-06 23:28
1 reply
Yeah i know, but it is so stupid. They went 5-4 with 5 points and they don't have to qualify.
2016-07-06 23:56
E-league don't like favelas. FUCK FAVELAS
2016-07-06 20:25
#268
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Brazil wAc
fuck eleague, starts with stupid invites and now this... better throw your money to the fire
2016-07-06 20:25
#269
i am | 
Yugoslavia bleaq
git rekt
2016-07-06 20:25
some shit NA teams to replace them
2016-07-06 20:25
#271
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Sweden 4Sweeeden
Hello, We are ELeague, and we are fucking retards. What a fucking joke, i spit on that Chingchong Eleague owner.
2016-07-06 20:25
huehue rip
2016-07-06 20:25
they need americans teams representing because of tv, right? xDDDDDDD lets go clown 9 rofl
2016-07-06 20:26
#278
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Brazil Luca0
stupid
2016-07-06 20:26
hahaha adios favela cheaters
2016-07-06 20:26
4 replies
#303
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Sweden X-rAy
dont u want top1 team playing in eleague? u wanna see final faze vs envyus? ...
2016-07-06 20:27
2 replies
#388
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
he dont want cheating scrubs in eleague, and thats exactly what SK are.
2016-07-06 20:35
1 reply
+1
2016-07-06 21:34
learn history first, we don't speak spanish.
2016-07-06 20:28
Rules are there to obey? Thats not fun actually.... Waiting forvthorin and RL videos about this.
2016-07-06 20:26
1 reply
rules are made to make the tournament work in the best way as possible if a rule is contradictory and therefore is not helping or harming the tournament, then it obviously should be fucking changed. Rules can be changed when they suck, there is no such bullshit like "rules are rules, deal with it and fuck logic"
2016-07-06 20:53
What a joke lol congratz eleague
2016-07-06 20:26
fuck eLeague
2016-07-06 20:26
This is a retarded decision.
2016-07-06 20:26
lol ridiculous
2016-07-06 20:26
Expected
2016-07-06 20:26
#292
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Sweden X-rAy
Where is the ROSTER CHANGE? can anyone explain me? roster change?
2016-07-06 20:27
1 reply
-old sk line up +luminosity line up
2016-07-06 20:29
So did C9 qualify in LG's place since they were runners up of group A???
2016-07-06 20:27
2 replies
C9 advanced since they're not in the LCQ.
2016-07-06 20:28
1 reply
:D feel bad for SK with this bullshit but I'm happy cuz I;m a C9 fanboy
2016-07-06 20:30
A really stupid decision. The line-up should be the only thing considered, not the org behind it...
2016-07-06 20:27
2 replies
#324
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Finland Emvi
+1 But its american tv, only thing that matters are the org sponsors and money. Yay
2016-07-06 20:29
+1
2016-07-06 20:48
They were not even kicked out of the Major after changing org. This is just stupid. Maybe it's about how each organization is contracted with ELEAGUE.
2016-07-06 20:28
2 replies
Does the major have a rule in place? EL had the rule in place since the beginning, not saying I agree but yeah, maybe read the rules first? same shit happened when they signed with SK under contract, sorry but for a smart guy you (not you, fallen,) can't be THIS dumb.
2016-07-06 20:30
1 reply
major is player dependent, not org/team. the spot is owned by the core which would be 3 players- the rule shouldnt apply to ex-sk though, thats fucked up.
2016-07-06 21:12
sk out obey alliance in
2016-07-06 20:27
#302
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Brazil HunterSk
wtf?
2016-07-06 20:27
That's what we call professional league? What are they trying to achieve, kicking the best team out of the tournament? Fucking morons.
2016-07-06 20:28
1 reply
+1
2016-07-06 21:03
#309
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Brazil dUdUb44-
RIP SK
2016-07-06 20:28
Finally ESL also should kick monkeys from major
2016-07-06 20:28
3 replies
And put Tyloo in Quarter Final
2016-07-06 20:28
2 replies
Tyloo>monkeys 2-1
2016-07-06 20:29
1 reply
#821
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Brazil sprk1
nt dog eater
2016-07-07 13:30
#314
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CIS Laggy
wait, Team X have been disqualified because their org kicked them?
2016-07-06 20:28
4 replies
yeah, that's not fair... they conquered that spot, same to ex-LG
2016-07-06 20:30
Team X also made 3 roster changes which people seem to forget about
2016-07-06 20:35
2 replies
Team X made 2 roster changes, which is apparently allowed since CLG did the same and has not been disqualified.
2016-07-08 10:49
1 reply
you right cuz Acillion came back
2016-07-08 16:17
lol
2016-07-06 20:28
That's an stupid rule!, Brazilian fear? ok...
2016-07-06 20:28
#322
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Brazil woody77
WORST LEAGUE EVER
2016-07-06 20:29
Roster changes? WTF they didn't changed 1 player
2016-07-06 20:29
10 replies
sk changed 5 players and luminosity doesn't have any player left. top kek rule
2016-07-06 20:30
1 reply
Chinaman is CRAZYYYYYEE
2016-07-06 20:34
yeah they change the whole team
2016-07-06 20:34
7 replies
The meaning of roster is: players that compose a team. You can't change the players that compose a team, but those players sure can change their organizations. That is obvious, and what's fair is fair. It's obvious they did that to sneak a NA team in the league, so they can please american TV.
2016-07-06 20:42
6 replies
so i guess karma hit back ?
2016-07-06 20:52
5 replies
Why would that be karma? That's just a plain rip off.
2016-07-06 20:53
4 replies
because they backstabed Luminosity by talking behind their backs and leaving unannounced now karma is balancing things up
2016-07-06 20:56
3 replies
Oh noes, people doing things for their best interest, players searching for better conditions and employment under better organizations. Boo hoo that's called capitalism, you don't like it you should start a revolution. Oh, wait, someone already did that. And guess what? It didn't work. But you, well, you can still move to your northern neighbor, nice trip and have fun.
2016-07-06 20:59
2 replies
ehehee besides that i am fakeflagging ofcourse Karma IS a bitch !
2016-07-06 21:06
watch thorins video about it, would be to much to write here
2016-07-06 21:13
This is just stupid. Sure, i'm okay with tournaments punishing lineup changes, but in this case it's just a change of the name which the lineup is playing under. Please don't punish players for this. This is not OK. Bet the c9 org has been pushing this and handed EL some money under the table to get their team to the playoffs on a technicality... R.I.P. ELEAGUE!
2016-07-06 20:29
loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
2016-07-06 20:29
This may be, bar none, one of the worst rulings I've seen in this game. They changed organizations, which is NOT the same as changing your lineup. How that can be construed as such is, frankly, mind-boggling. Locking a team into organizational restraints means that teams can end up being taken advantage of if they want to stay in the league. It's one thing to keep player swaps to a minimum, but as we've seen throughout CS history, organizations can do some really sketchy shit. This is penalizing the players, completely.
2016-07-06 20:30
9 replies
Team X changed 3 players though so they should be disqualified not SK though
2016-07-06 20:34
5 replies
No they only changed 2 since acilion came back.
2016-07-06 20:54
1 reply
you right i just realized this
2016-07-06 20:55
I was referring primarily to the Luminosity/SK thing. Team X's decision to change their roster is a completely different issue entirely, and I'm entirely okay with them being disqualified.
2016-07-06 20:55
2 replies
why are you ok with them bein disqualified?
2016-07-06 21:15
1 reply
I'm okay with Team X being removed from the league if they changed 3 players. As noted above, they only changed 2. Though I'm still not sure how I feel about that, realistically 2 people is still a lot after a big qualification.
2016-07-07 01:19
finally someone showing some common sense on this thread +1
2016-07-06 21:04
But on the other hand would it be better for players jumping ship also, taking the league spot with them? This could lead to some issues too. It's why you put a contract in place, which they both signed after having lawyers review. In SK/LG situation, they could of easily came to a better decision of allowing LG to stay LG until league contracts ended. But they did not and know they have breached a contract. Just like the one's LG signed if they would have not played for SK at some point. Hate ELeague all you want, but it's the organizations of SK/LG, lawyers and players fault for not adhering to their contract.
2016-07-07 08:34
1 reply
The reality is that the PLAYERS earned the spot in the league, NOT the organization. How players handle their relationships with organizations should NOT be dictated by any league, because it isn't in the best interest of the players. What you're not understanding is that in a situation like this, it gives an organization the leverage to take advantage of their players, especially when those players might be attempting to find better representation. It's essentially an open invitation to black mail, where an organization can force a team to stay within their ranks until they finish a league. This is NOT OKAY in ANY sense. Period. It's not about if SK/LG didn't understand, and it's not really about how messy their situation was leading up to the transfer. It's about what's healthy for the scene and the players, and neither of these things are a reality when players lose freedom over their own working conditions.
2016-07-07 18:05
HAHAHAHAHAHAH
2016-07-06 20:30
lol this is retarded... Players of both teams remain the same, they've just changed orgs.
2016-07-06 20:30
Does this mean C9 is in?
2016-07-06 20:30
2 replies
#351
NEO | 
Brazil ptL^^
C9 got SK spot, Reng got C9 spot. By what I'm reading
2016-07-06 20:31
1 reply
I feel bad for SK, but us NA fanboys need something to cheer for XD
2016-07-06 20:32
Lol Min-Sik Ko worked about 4 years full time for SK... whats wrong with these guys. The ORG LG and SK are fine with it but they bitch about it... lets guess, they want to give Clown9, CLNoobs or Liquid another shot because no Murican wants to watch other people then muricans.
2016-07-06 20:31
1 reply
this is obviously whats really going on here
2016-07-06 21:05
RIP ELEAGUE
2016-07-06 20:31
haha fucking favelas cry more greedy fucks
2016-07-06 20:31
1 reply
#358
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Turkey Mustafa-
salty swedish LUL
2016-07-06 20:32
nt murica.
2016-07-06 20:31
Dat sense... BAN Brazilian team, Now a North American team take your place... More audience on TBS main channel. More chance for NA org get a better place. GGWP TBS, TURNNER and STUPIDS DECISIONS.
2016-07-06 20:31
2 replies
#400
RpK | 
Brazil bskkr
gonna cry?
2016-07-06 20:38
1 reply
i'm crying :(
2016-07-06 20:52
Well, EL was promising, was fun to watch... Meh. Fuck EL.
2016-07-06 20:32
#357
nex | 
Germany TiwaZ
"First time in Counter Strike players are been punished for getting better and evolving professional-wise. Out of e league due to change org." No, fallen, you got punished for cbeating
2016-07-06 20:32
2 replies
nt fatiko
2016-07-06 20:35
1 reply
#509
nex | 
Germany TiwaZ
That was a really weak response
2016-07-06 21:12
Fuck off ELEAGUE shame on you
2016-07-06 20:32
Their contracts ran out, they signed new ones. How is this a illegal roaster move?
2016-07-06 20:32
fucking joke LG didn't made any roster changes and get punished by this shity SK line-up
2016-07-06 20:33
DESERVED
2016-07-06 20:33
1 reply
#570
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Brazil 2knexi
Because? you have problems?
2016-07-06 21:55
Bad decision eleague. I hope you all die.
2016-07-06 20:33
12 replies
hey monkey, death threats aren't necessary, calm down
2016-07-06 20:35
11 replies
he didnt life threat anyone you fucking racist scumbag
2016-07-06 20:38
10 replies
'i hope you all die'
2016-07-06 20:40
9 replies
you clearly do not know what a death threat is, or you have a really poor understanding of english, go back to school you racist fuck, you are the real monkey here
2016-07-06 20:48
8 replies
die = death i hope you all die = he is wishing death upon other people. it's not a death threat, but it's just as bad, as he's still wishing death upon other people for a decision they made.
2016-07-06 20:46
7 replies
You know that their decision was fucking stupid? Stop saying rules are rules. Their rules is completely garbage. Any 12 yo kid would know the difference is that this rules fair or unfair
2016-07-06 21:47
3 replies
maybe the ex-lg/now-sk guys should've read the rules before they went behind their org's backs and signed a different contract. rules are rules, whether they are fair or not. the rules are open to the public, and they should've talked to lg first before they made such a rash decision. only people it is unfair for are ex-sk.
2016-07-06 21:49
2 replies
Listen. They play with 5 man, ni changes and this is not the same as changing roster. It has nothing to do with their skill and performance.
2016-07-06 21:53
1 reply
ok, ill copy and paste what i posted earlier on the situation --------------------------------------- i don't work for eleague, therefore i can't tell you what rules they broke... BUT, this is in the official ruleset for eleague: Please note that the Commissioner and any designated tournament officials have the authority to make final decisions that are not specifically delineated in these rule and regulations to preserve fair play and sportsmanship in the Commissioner’s sole discretion. so the decision is justified by the rules. also, this is in the rules: Before the start of a tournament, each team must clarify with relevant tournament officials whether their payments are going to their organization or directly to the players SK and LG probably made the decision that the payments were to go to the organization rather than the players, and that is why they are disqualified, because now that the orgs are fucked up, where is the money gonna go? before SK went behind LG's back and signed another contract, maybe they should've consulted LG, their previous org, or read the rules thoroughly, before they decided to sign another contract. it's their fault.
2016-07-06 21:55
Do you even know what a threat is? A death threat would be 'I will kill them all'. Lol
2016-07-06 21:50
2 replies
> it's not a death threat, but it's just as bad read > i hope you all die still wishing death on other people, an indirect threat to someone's life. not saying he will do it directly, but wishing for death because of a decision over a video game.
2016-07-06 21:53
1 reply
Its a expression, idiot.
2016-07-08 17:06
who cares tags or organizations...just want to see the best teams playing. fuck EL
2016-07-06 20:34
LMFAOO
2016-07-06 20:34
LOL REKT
2016-07-06 20:34
wtf lmao perfect way to ruin your good look xDD
2016-07-06 20:34
#386
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Germany Bennime
what a fucking joke. we should boycott this shit event. fucking tv dumbasses.
2016-07-06 20:35
1 reply
totally
2016-07-06 20:44
The fact that most of the community is cheering about this show how f****d up e-sports are. Shame.
2016-07-06 20:35
3 replies
Your country and its fans are fucked up. But I do agree, this is a bullshit rule and people shouldn't be cheering about this. Ruined the tournament for me
2016-07-06 20:42
2 replies
Doesn't matter how fucked up BR retard fanbase is. People keep mumbling over and over how e-sports should be more recognized and so on. But when a bad decision like that occurs, the first thing they do is to cheer and laugh instead of unite. First WESA, now this...
2016-07-06 20:44
1 reply
Yeah, true.
2016-07-06 20:45
they are protecting the organizations and not the players.
2016-07-06 20:35
NA SUCKS
2016-07-06 20:38
#395
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Portugal DaNifcv
The team that should advance to the playoffs shouldn't be Cloud9. They did 9 points. Faze did 15 and were second on the group too.
2016-07-06 20:37
2 replies
The whole point of this is sneak an american team to please american TV. It's obvious... and disgusting.
2016-07-06 20:43
I would like to see faze there, but C9 did finish 2nd to SK
2016-07-06 21:25
what a fucking joke, ELEAGUE sux, NA CS sux
2016-07-06 20:37
NO FALLEN; NO FUN!
2016-07-06 20:37
5 replies
WORD!
2016-07-06 20:58
THIS!
2016-07-06 21:00
+++1
2016-07-06 21:27
Fuck ching chong
2016-07-06 21:45
Yes
2016-07-07 03:04
a base for a objection here: hltv.org/forum/1199147-sk-disqualificati..
2016-07-06 20:39
VAI TOMA NO CUA=!
2016-07-06 20:39
mad monkeys
2016-07-06 20:40
RIP Audience.... kek
2016-07-06 20:40
#407
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Switzerland Sylleo
what about clg ?
2016-07-06 20:40
Glad to see teams getting punished for breaking the rules. At least one league doesn't fuck around
2016-07-06 20:42
2 replies
#422
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Finland Emvi
You're joking right? What did the players in ex-sk do wrong. Also why would changing the org be against the rules in the first place, it shouldn't.
2016-07-06 20:44
1 reply
he heard about only a part of the conversation from the directors when they were in the toilet. Its not his problem, the conversation began and ended out of there.
2016-07-07 02:03
#413
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Brazil Rohe
hahahaha eleague is a joke
2016-07-06 20:42
1 reply
agree lets all boycott it
2016-07-06 22:05
#415
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Brazil saulop
Shit rules camp, expected from NA tv. ESL, DreamHAck and VALVE majors, secure the TEAM spot, sure $Americans$ have to be the snowflake...
2016-07-06 20:43
#416
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Brazil ScudCS
c9 should deny to play in SK place! if they have any integrity.
2016-07-06 20:43
16 replies
#429
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Brazil saulop
+1
2016-07-06 20:45
that is bs.... it's not c9s fault...go and be angry at the fucking people at eleague for their brainless rules
2016-07-06 20:48
14 replies
#441
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Brazil ScudCS
im not angry at c9. they can do whatever they want. if i was in their position i would deny it, for me that´s a question of integrity. no problem if you and/or c9 thinks differently.
2016-07-06 20:51
13 replies
No, you wouldn't. The only reason you're saying that is because you're Brazillian.
2016-07-06 20:52
3 replies
#453
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Brazil ScudCS
You don't know me, so stfu.
2016-07-06 20:53
2 replies
Ok, sorry
2016-07-06 20:59
1 reply
#488
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Brazil ScudCS
Apologies accepted.
2016-07-06 21:03
"that´s a question of integrity." NOT really... all the teams need to protest and not only one team...that's bs
2016-07-06 20:53
5 replies
#462
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Brazil ScudCS
i agree... all teams should. But its c9 that is being put into SK´s spot, so they are in the position of denying the spot.
2016-07-06 20:56
4 replies
no they shouldn't because it wouldn't matter...then the next fucking team will get the spot...It's not so hard to understand... either all teams protect ...or no one...THAT IS INTEGRITY ...
2016-07-06 20:59
3 replies
#483
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Brazil ScudCS
i am saying exactly that... no team should take it... its not so hard to understand.
2016-07-06 21:01
2 replies
"But its c9 that is being put into SK´s spot, so they are in the position of denying the spot." ?????
2016-07-06 21:02
1 reply
#494
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Brazil ScudCS
read 462 again. "i agree... all teams should." as of now they are the ones in this position. all others that eventually get in this position should deny it too... we are literally saying the same thing... its not hard to understand
2016-07-06 21:05
you would deny a spot in a televised league? It's not Cloud9's fault, and rules are rules that would be the dumbest thing ever to do.
2016-07-06 20:56
2 replies
#468
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Brazil ScudCS
Show me the rule that was broken. you can't, because there isn't a CLEAR rule for this specific case. This is all shady and arbitrary.
2016-07-06 20:58
rules are made to make the tournament work in the best way as possible if a rule is contradictory and therefore is not helping or harming the tournament, then it obviously should be fucking changed. Rules can be changed when they suck, there is no such bullshit like "rules are rules and fuck logic"
2016-07-06 21:24
#417
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Slovakia mask1to
wait what ?
2016-07-06 20:43
#419
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Estonia Rebae
rip favelas
2016-07-06 20:44
zzzzzzzzzzzz
2016-07-06 20:44
Pathetic billshit
2016-07-06 20:45
we will adjust to esports not the other way around.....yeah right
2016-07-06 20:45
FUCKING BS it's not sk (exLG'S fault) fucking retarded people ....fuck their rules...brainless rules
2016-07-06 20:47
lets jus got ahead and give eleague some less support. if they dont support these teams and they just get ignored as friis said, well we can just retribute smthg to them
2016-07-06 20:47
wesa? Show us you're not just about the dollar, but can look after your players
2016-07-06 20:48
I read the rules, none of the teams broke any of them
2016-07-06 20:48
I would understand that if there would have been a rooster change...BUT IT WAS ONLY A ORG CHANGE FUCKING NOTHING changed....retarded people at EL...NO fucking brain
2016-07-06 20:51
#444
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Switzerland pazzo0
The truth? EL just want American teams in playoffs, thats why they did that, "roster change"? pathetic excuses
2016-07-06 20:51
Cry fallen
2016-07-06 20:51
3 replies
#485
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Finland Jonzu95
typical dankooo comment why are you still in hltv?
2016-07-06 21:02
2 replies
Why wouldnt i be
2016-07-06 21:42
1 reply
#636
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Finland Jonzu95
because nobody likes you
2016-07-06 22:52
thats pretty fucking dumb lol..
2016-07-06 20:54
When the news was first made of the org change, Min said that neither team would be penalised. That would suggest that the rule wasn't there at the start.
2016-07-06 20:54
American TV rules. It's very convenient replace SK with a american team.
2016-07-06 20:55
N1 DESERVED
2016-07-06 20:57
FUCK ELEAGUE
2016-07-06 20:58
cya nerds
2016-07-06 20:59
Joke!
2016-07-06 21:00
#484
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Brazil R_ananias
A tournament with 24 teams that lasts 10 weeks doesn't allow roster changes? Do they have any idea of how CSGO scene works?
2016-07-06 21:02
1 reply
#568
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Brazil woody77
this is the main point...
2016-07-06 21:54
E-League, elegiggle. Seriously though, this is a joke. I agree with Fallen, a players union is necessary not only for garbage like this but all the other issues plaguing csgo/esports.
2016-07-06 21:04
#495
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Brazil woody77
Players should boycott this shit And it happens when you brings TV to electronic sports ... shit day for E-Sports
2016-07-06 21:05
Eleague trying hard to get NA on the TV xD RIP NA >EU
2016-07-06 21:06
SHAME
2016-07-06 21:07
wow so shit ELEAGUE
2016-07-06 21:09
RENEGADES WTF TIER 39874987124897, FUCKING SHIT E-LEAGUE 0 BRAIN
2016-07-06 21:10
#506
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Norway billson
This is exactly why player Union is needed. Some bad NA team will replace them, so fucked up.
2016-07-06 21:10
ELeague good tournament EleGiggle 4Head What a shit league! Cya next season. I as many Brazilian people watched it just because of LG/SK, now we don't have a reason to watch it anymore. A league that was meant to be super great with TV cover and all that has now turned into shit. 24 teams 10-week long league doesn't allow changes to roster is so fucking disgusting. SHAME ON YOU, CHINAMAN, SHAME ON YOU!
2016-07-06 21:13
players pls, boycott this
2016-07-06 21:14
hahahahahaha bye LG/SK i'm sad for team X ;(
2016-07-06 21:16
Rules are rules kids. When it says you can't change your roster mid-season, that means you can't do it lol. No surprise here at all. Only ignorant jajas are going to cry about this. Dunno how it wouldn't obvious that SK does not deserve to benefit off the work that was put in by the team when it carried the LG flag. If that were allowed big orgs would just sit around and poach teams right before they win titles at high dollar events.
2016-07-06 21:21
3 replies
#530
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Brazil R_ananias
What if a roster's contract expires mid season? Also roster changes happen every time in the CSGO scene. This is just how it works.
2016-07-06 21:35
orgs can make sure that it wont happen when they do their contracts with the players, plus cs go public cares about player rosters, not organizations rules are made to make the tournament work in the best way as possible if a rule is contradictory and therefore is not helping or harming the tournament, then it obviously should be fucking changed. Rules can be changed when they suck, there is no such bullshit like "rules are rules and fuck logic"
2016-07-06 21:43
#874
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Brazil rmarques
Its sad that they are out but I agree, their Tournment their rules.
2016-07-11 17:47
#517
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Portugal dracø
Gotta secure a spot for an NA team. It would be a shame to have a league live on USA tv with any NA team :) Fuck off eleague, I ain't staying up for this shit after this
2016-07-06 21:21
4 replies
Eleague trying to give NA a shot, to obviously get raped live on US television uiawdhduwahwahdihawihwadhwadoipjwaoipdjwad SHAME!
2016-07-06 21:23
eleague will crumble without your 1 view :(
2016-07-06 21:44
2 replies
#558
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Portugal dracø
you are delusional if you think I'm the only one thinking like this lol
2016-07-06 21:48
1 reply
You are delusional if you think any number of you boycotting the event will actually hurt eleague lol
2016-07-06 21:56
#518
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Brazil dUdUb44-
Bad decision... Notification via twitter! OK ELEAGUE!
2016-07-06 21:22
Is this because they are from brazil?
2016-07-06 21:30
LOL
2016-07-06 21:33
#532
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Hong Kong eldoodaks
Haha favela deserves it, not so good for ez SK tho...
2016-07-06 21:37
#533
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Brazil dUdUb44-
"4.3 - General Rules: 16. Team rosters must be complete before plane tickets are issued. If a team decides to change the roster after travel arrangements have been issued, any additional costs must be covered by the respective team." Ok!
2016-07-06 21:37
#536
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Brazil kal4sh
wtf
2016-07-06 21:39
Everybody pls go and murder this chinese scum twitter.com/minsikko?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
2016-07-06 21:40
1 reply
expected from favela
2016-07-07 05:27
Releasing the info via twitter and during a tournament that SK is still competing in. Very unprofessional.
2016-07-06 21:40
nice br monkeys fucked over the ex-sk too LUL nice job monkeys 4Head
2016-07-06 21:40
nice no monkeys allowed
2016-07-06 21:41
C9 playoff hype! They should have beat LG 2-0 anyways.
2016-07-06 21:41
1 reply
so why didnt they...
2016-07-06 21:44
sk should short term sponsor the lg team for eleague LG*SK| good p.r. for all
2016-07-06 21:41
alright fuck eleague I'm not watching this anymore.
2016-07-06 21:42
that's just for cloud9 make it to playoffs, haha eleague = shit
2016-07-06 21:43
lol wp eleague bunch of shitheads
2016-07-06 21:43
eLeague is unprofessional could pick TS for eLeague, and pick a useless team NA. Now for more viewership´in finalcard, decide ban team cuz change org? Change org in esport is common... GL with ur viewers on TV tunner. Shitiest event ever! ps:i dont speak english... sorry, i try.
2016-07-06 21:47
2 replies
ex-TS gets shitted on by tier 3 NA teams m8 calm down they aren't that good.
2016-07-06 22:17
1 reply
sorry, but -TS is better than selfless, nope?
2016-07-06 22:38
LOL, wont be able to compete in the first season.... LIKE THERE IS GOING TO BE A SECOND SEASON BAHAHAH
2016-07-06 21:49
its pathetic but ok, shame on eleague lol
2016-07-06 21:50
Cloud9 paid em bois. VP got to play last chance while C9 directly playoffs whatte joke
2016-07-06 21:53
sry but 1st world has rules :P
2016-07-06 21:55
Shame.
2016-07-06 21:59
#576
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Brazil 2knexi
Shit rules, respect 0, no more expected from xenofobics
2016-07-06 21:59
I'd love to see Cloud9 forfeiting their spot in respect to SK and this absurd decision. That would be a slap on ELEAGUE's face. They are all players and they are always prone to these kind of roster changes/contracts. Players did earn their spot, not the org! Ridiculous.
2016-07-06 22:00
4 replies
why should they respect SK when SK org and ex-LG players have no respect. You have to show respect to get respect.
2016-07-06 22:16
3 replies
What happened to them could happen to any roster of CS:GO. What is happening now is not only a loss to this specific roster but to all of them. Sooner or later it will happen to other guys, just wait and see.
2016-07-06 22:44
2 replies
They fucked up that's their fault and now they fucked ex-SK in the ass bc of their fuck up don't come writing this shit not bc they are best team in the world mean they get special treatment.
2016-07-06 22:48
1 reply
Are you mad, bro? Cause I'm not. Talking specifically about contracts. The problems that emerged between contracts is only between the two orgs. From ELEAGUE's point of view the drama that happened doesn't matter. So, fuck ups that may happened don't change anything on this case. LG contract expired and they went under a new contract with SK. That's simple as it gets. The same for Team X: their contract expired and didn't get renewed. Both regular moves. And both rosters are getting kicked for that. It's just insane.
2016-07-06 22:51
SK... say no more for eLeague, now only in a possible S2? No fckn way!
2016-07-06 22:09
shit organization
2016-07-06 22:08
RIP
2016-07-06 22:10
Sk is right now filing a suit against the organization's E-LEAGUE
2016-07-06 22:12
Who's missing are they which the grace of having a championship with the best teams in the world without the best? Whoever wins will still below the SK , beautiful event
2016-07-06 22:13
This is retarded, ex-SK shouldn't be punished for their ex organization not keeping them after contracts were over the team just started falling apart. Now for ex-LG is was a really big fan of their's but fuck em they deserved it fully for pulling that cunt move, favelas can get mad all they want but they ruined many people with their decision (Luminosity Gaming and ex-SK).
2016-07-06 22:14
how need fucked Eleague
2016-07-06 22:17
HAHAHA FAVELAS GOT REKTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
2016-07-06 22:18
1 reply
#599
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Brazil 2knexi
mouse rekt*
2016-07-06 22:21
Sucks for team X. Fuck favelas tho
2016-07-06 22:20
this is a shame but it needs to happend right now, to change this kind of bullshit, those things like some line ups can't play on majors, or shit like that needs to be changed as soon as posible, this is when politics come to e sports lmaoo
2016-07-06 22:23
I have to agree with ELeague's decision. They are trying to market the game to the masses that do not follow the CS scene closely. Having LG and SK swap rosters would mind fuck the typical audience they are trying to reach. Honestly this could all be avoided if CS orgs/players/tournament host agreed on an off season. It doesn't even have to be that long maybe 1-2 weeks. And this is the time when contract negotiation and team changes come into affect. This way this event does not occur again.
2016-07-06 22:27
#609
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Brazil RisenNTC
wtf is this shit?
2016-07-06 22:30
#610
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Uzbekistan burgerzz
wow
2016-07-06 22:30
#613
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Finland jUPPE!
Elegue rules make clear distinction between teams (group of players) and organizations. "Before the start of a tournament, each team must clarify with relevant tournament officials whether their payments are going to their organization or directly to the players" "14. All teams must submit their five (5) man roster, including two (2) subs, by May 18th, 5:00pm EST to chase. hammet@img.com. 15. Teams will be allowed to use a sub to replace another player twice per season, but replacements must be declared before plane tickets are issued. 16. Team rosters must be complete before plane tickets are issued. If a team decides to change the roster after travel arrangements have been issued, any additional costs must be covered by the respective team."
2016-07-06 22:33
1 reply
#628
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Brazil woody77
This is all about "plane tickets" no talking about exchanges of times, this can not be associated
2016-07-06 22:46
Ridiculous that rule, never had it in cs: go
2016-07-06 22:37
What a load of crap... It's incredibly unfortunate that ELEAGUE rules have this standard and it's even worse that TWO teams suffer from this. I sincerely hope you find luck elsewhere.
2016-07-06 22:40
2 replies
Why you feel sad for ex-LG scums #They fake #They aren't loyal #they fucked 3 players in the end and an entire org bc when will LG find another quality like current SK.
2016-07-06 22:43
1 reply
I feel bad for both teams. Both SK and ex-SK. It's unfair that the ELEAGUE rules are like this, but as a standard they cannot be changed and thus the ELEAGUE chairman/director must abide by them. Hence - extremely unfortunate circumstances.
2016-07-06 22:46
Petition to get Team X to play E-League ? bc they honestly got fucked which wasn't their fault.
2016-07-06 22:41
#623
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Brazil woody77
Community should do a Petition, and players get a lawyer,the Sports Interactive who bought the image rights should file a lawsuit also. fuck this bullshit
2016-07-06 22:45
ADMIN KICK THE FAVELAS.
2016-07-06 22:45
WTF. Team X's contract with SK expires -> SK decides to not renew it as they want to sign another team - nothing Team X can do about it -> Team X is punished and removed from the tournament. Completely fucked up. This is why we don't need corporate opportunists like EL.
2016-07-06 22:45
3 replies
I love this guy right here he actually have a brain not like 80% of these brain washed kids on this forum current SK/ex-LG disqualification well deserved.
2016-07-06 22:50
+1111111 Best vision possible... ty bro!
2016-07-06 23:02
+1000
2016-07-07 00:59
fck ELEAGUE! :]
2016-07-06 22:49
Retarded TV broadcast organisation, thinks they are above everyone else with their dumb rules, lol, hope this back fires, go back to your murican idiotic shows instead, and leave CS alone.
2016-07-06 22:52
#638
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Sweden lagcats
that's too bad tho :(
2016-07-06 22:53
#640
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Brazil ZACKK_SP
this is bullshit, terrible decision
2016-07-06 22:54
For me this totally "political" thing. They want to be sure than a NA team can play the playoffs. Because they will be broadcasting to the NA TV audience, you know? Its gonna be really weird to them, not showing a NA team to a NA audience. ELeague found a way to benefit someone with this change of org between SK and LG. And guess what? Who was benefited? Fucking C9 and CLG! I'm not a brazilian fan crying because "my team" was ruled out of the camp, trust me. Im so mad because this was more than a "ruled out" thing... (sorry for bad english)
2016-07-06 23:01
4 replies
LOL its possible, so much to -1 them more, fucking fanboys, hope c9 gets destroyed, those scrubs shouldnt be competing on any lans.
2016-07-06 22:57
1 reply
You know how TV politcs works. When they want someone to be benefited, they will do anything to happen. I hope C9 gets destroyed too man..
2016-07-06 22:59
+1 is totally political no NA teams in final... could be bad for TURNNER They managed to find a way to make it happen! Dat shame!
2016-07-06 23:01
1 reply
#747
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North America Foxaika
Conspiracy theories are nice, but if Fallen and gang would have been smarter about this, it would have never happened, no? Even if what you say is true, it's their own bloody fault for giving them a reason. Not as if the rules were something hidden away and they popped this out of nowhere. This could have been avoided.
2016-07-07 03:59
eLeague ban sk cuz cloud9 and clg cant advance stage in the competition... No NA teams in finals, low audiency on TV(TBS Main Production). Dat shame.... the only way to a NA team move for final, right?! ps: i try written english... is really bad.
2016-07-06 22:59
wtf dumb af
2016-07-06 23:01
They made out this rule today...
2016-07-06 23:03
OMG...this is so stupid
2016-07-06 23:07
LOL, this guy dont like brazilians people.. FeelsBad
2016-07-06 23:08
I think its the right move by the E-League officials. Its like in any other professional sports. Its the organization the spot belongs to. I mean think of it in professional football or soccer. A club which reaches the playoffs, for example in Champions League or similar tournaments, remains the spot no matter what transfers say, even if a club buys a whole team (unlikely but you know what i mean)
2016-07-06 23:12
1 reply
Yeah and fallen is all about representing...lol funny how he misses this. Good riddens.
2016-07-06 23:33
Best thing to happen since Orlando shooting :D
2016-07-06 23:18
2 replies
2016-07-06 23:24
1 reply
;)
2016-07-06 23:27
:(
2016-07-06 23:23
What's the point kicking ex-SK? wtf shitquille o'neal league.
2016-07-06 23:26
who?
2016-07-06 23:26
#676
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Brazil TikO!
NA LEAGUE!
2016-07-06 23:28
Fuckin right. Shouldve thought about this before jumping ship and only thinking about the money. Both organization and players fault. Fallens a huge dick but tiny penis
2016-07-06 23:31
Elague go down the best team ? really fuck this shit
2016-07-06 23:38
#684
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Chile nachooww
gg favela
2016-07-06 23:50
ridiculous... muricans... all that shit just to put their shitty tier 25 team cloud69
2016-07-06 23:55
hah the bad karma of SK
2016-07-07 00:02
why ...
2016-07-07 00:11
Is it ever Fallens fault according to himself? Super dodgy move from LG to SK and possibly breaking the law(?) and now this. I am certain that the brazilians signed papers before joining eleague where it says: "do not switch orgs in the middle of the season"
2016-07-07 00:12
4 replies
Brazilians are known for the shady dealings. Just look at the soccer and mma organizations. Wanderlei literally ran from his drug test. Like ran away from the doctor there to administer the test.
2016-07-07 00:31
3 replies
#741
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Brazil R_ananias
That guy is a moron. Don't blame all Brazilians cause of that.
2016-07-07 03:32
2 replies
EVERY single brazilian champion has tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. This is a fact.
2016-07-07 04:49
1 reply
#767
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Brazil R_ananias
Now you're just lying
2016-07-07 05:13
"Cloud9 have been moved from the last-chance bracket straight to the playoffs as a result of this decision" Best dicision ever! xD xD........
2016-07-07 00:27
Rules are rules. Its not their fault these teams seek special treatment. So glad the rules won. Once you sign up. You agree to the rules. You dont get to bitch after the fact.
2016-07-07 00:30
2 replies
Contract with SK signed March, Eleague rules May. Yeah. Rules, we know... NA.... We know.
2016-07-07 01:36
1 reply
Im not going to argue the rules with you. You are clearly wrong. Given the fact that SK will not be playing in the finals. Try being less biased. You should be mad at your team for making dumb decisions. They just lost out on several thousand dollars, depending on final placing. Just because of bad management and leadership. Just remember kids. YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LUCK Stop blaming other things for your mistakes.
2016-07-07 04:48
And the happily lived ever after.
2016-07-07 00:43
#704
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Brazil Rem1ngton
PREPAARE YOUS ASSES MURICANS TEAMS, ESL São PAULO Waiting for you!
2016-07-07 00:46
#705
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Denmark LnDcsgo
Hltv.braindead Look at the rules, we can say thanks to SK/luminosity (also fallen) for punish team X and rest of sk's lineup. IF they didnt sign for sk they wouldnt have any probs.. But rules > everything.. Dont hate EL.
2016-07-07 00:57
#707
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Brazil hugoooo
That's really shitty decision. The tournament is long as fuck, and teams can't change orgs meanwhile, if so, they will lose their spots? wow
2016-07-07 01:06
#708
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United States kurt524
Didn't the team Without A Roof change orgs and become Kaliber during ECS (correct me if I'm wrong)? ECS is similar to ELeague as it takes place over multiple weeks. These players weren't penalized (beyond their poor play) and continued to play. Org and roster swaps happen. If an event happens over several weeks, changes should be expected.
2016-07-07 01:14
6 replies
#732
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Brazil R_ananias
You're absolutely right. All this situation makes it clear that Turner doesn't understand the CSGO scenario.
2016-07-07 02:50
5 replies
#738
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United States kurt524
They're catering to the TV only viewers, which are a minority in the CS scene. Most CS watchers know what's going on between LG and SK, but there are some that don't and only watch CS Friday nights on TBS.
2016-07-07 03:22
4 replies
Youre being naive. The casual gamer HEAVILY outweighs the hardcore one. Obviously the majority will be catered too. And that is the casual gamer
2016-07-07 04:50
3 replies
#764
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United States kurt524
With the drama the roster change caused and the fact that SK is the number 1 team in the world, most CS watchers understand what happened. ELeague was made to bring awareness to eSports and attract a new audience. While most viewers will watch more than ELeague, there is a new audience that only watch ELeague on TBS. ELeague is being branded as a sport like the NBA or NFL. I don't think it should be treated this way, because CS is much different.
2016-07-07 05:03
2 replies
esports will NEVER work in a pro league model like the major sports leagues. In baseball, football, soccer, basketball, track, etc.. The sport never changes. Makes longevity much easier to attain. In esports, the sport being played is constantly changing. Whether it be updates or new games in general. Causing longevity issues. Hurting the player pool and audience numbers. Which is obviously, terrible. And thats not even mentioning the average age of pro/invite level players. Low maturity levels, roster churning, etc. The meta of esports in NA is that gaming is for kids or in your off time. There are so many other established opportunities for young men to make a living. esports is just a hobby here in NA. It will be 20+ years before we see a well established, well run esports league. Until then, we get to see a bunch of leagues start and fail.
2016-07-07 05:13
1 reply
#769
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United States kurt524
+1 I love the idea of having eSports on TV. I wish that one day, a whole LAN tournament can get broadcast time. But I don't want to see it broadcasted as a sport. Major sports leagues have one season a year, and all those games are played in that season with a playoffs and championship. CS has multiple different tournaments and "seasons" (EPL and ECS). CS in itself can't be turned into a sport because the pro scene is huge, so I think it's stupid to have one single tournament attempt to brand it as one.
2016-07-07 05:20
Just comment in the e-League Facebook what you guys thinks. Bad publicity is nightmare for the producers. If there's nothing in the rules they shouldn't be banned at all. The ex-SK situation is even worse...
2016-07-07 01:27
"Cloud9 have been moved from the last-chance bracket straight to the playoffs as a result of this decision" hah everything makes sense now :D
2016-07-07 01:28
Turns out that C9,CLG,Optic,NRG,Echo Fox, Liquid and TSM signed out a petition to rule out LG/SK And more, 4 out of these 7 wanted to sign the Brazilian lineup... Guess some people got mad espn.uol.com.br/noticia/611602_csgo-sete..
2016-07-07 01:30
1 reply
bad troll is bad
2016-07-07 04:51
fuck eleague and their ideology of team brands before players.
2016-07-07 01:30
Pretty shady move from the other organizations.
2016-07-07 01:30
didnt Renegades and CLG take Luminosity and SK spot? so how did flipsid3 and gambit make LCQ?
2016-07-07 01:31
3 replies
c9 took LG's spot in the finals and then Renegades took c9's spot in the LCQ. CLG was already in the LCQ, they came second in their groups same for flipside. And Gambit did the better than other teams that came third in their group and so moved up to the LCQ.
2016-07-07 02:54
2 replies
yeah i saw that now. i meant to say mousesports and gambit. found out mousesports has the best round different for a 3rd place team and optic got the 2nd best but somehow gambit got a spot before optic.??
2016-07-07 03:03
1 reply
Mhm, that's interesting. Not sure now
2016-07-07 03:22
this is when politics become a real thing in e sports, TV shit and stuff... but I think is really unprofessional by fallen cry on twitter and shit, because this is the only thing that those na guys can take off this line up, they can be like "AHAAA!! CRY MOTHAFUCKAS MWHAHAHA" but who cares? only 1 tourment sk got fucked, next tournments will be no excuses and everything will be on right terms, so cs skill will decide... tv shit is all about publicity and money... sk got fucked up in 1 tournment, fuck it... lets see in the other ones =)... this is the only way to na defeat br's in cs LMAO
2016-07-07 01:31
and why the fk C9 got auto qualified for EL? they should play in qualifier and fight for 3 spot instead 2 like it is now, its unfair to the other qualifier teams
2016-07-07 01:36
In the end it is good since these teams are so fucking bad that we will get satisfaction in every tournament when they lost early... as they always do. Hope SK goes to Europe and let the NA scenario dies in mediocracy.
2016-07-07 01:48
Well. I'm done with E-league now. Love tournaments that have all top teams in it. Now its just a normal uninteresting piece of crap tournament with alot of money in the pot.
2016-07-07 01:51
#722
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Brazil dkf
Whoever wins this cant call themselves the real winner anymore.
2016-07-07 01:54
1 reply
Ikr. Complete bullshit.
2016-07-07 02:41
Who is Team X ?
2016-07-07 02:05
huehuehbueheuheuheuehuehheuehuheuheuheuheuheueheuheuheuhehueueheuheuheuheuhee
2016-07-07 02:06
"the Brazilian players' recent move to SK Gaming and the Danish team's departure from the German organisation 'do not comply' with the league's rules. The reason for this is that neither SK nor Luminosity can field the roster that they submitted at the start of the season, which means that the league's spots belong to organisations and not to the competing teams." WTF that ain't sounding fair, the players should own the spots
2016-07-07 02:16
1 reply
No they shouldnt. Its not 5 players that got themselves there. Without the Organization, the players have nothing but good aim and no money. They would have never made the tournament without LGs help lol. Use your head.
2016-07-07 04:53
Wait... 2 matches 2 wins... Why they start if they are not in the rules... XD BAD REALLY BAD
2016-07-07 02:23
#729
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Azerbaijan Talley
"Cloud9 have been moved from the last-chance bracket straight to the playoffs as a result of this decision" WOOAAH DIDN'T SEE THAT COMING DID YA?
2016-07-07 02:25
#736
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Brazil darkzin1
eleague = small organization .. because remove the Brazilians? org changed , not players ... very small organization
2016-07-07 03:11
The funny thing is that Brazilian TV bought the eleague rights to open television here. That's why we have now this ammount of brazilians in hltv. Shady rules, hidden petitions, contracditory statements about punishing the team. NA scene left a great impression.
2016-07-07 03:16
19 replies
cry
2016-07-07 03:50
1 reply
Why being so rude and hurt my feelings :(
2016-07-07 04:50
Actually Turner owns "Esporte Interativo".
2016-07-07 04:14
Brazilians, blaming an entire continent for its own players mistakes.....
2016-07-07 04:54
8 replies
How i said, shady rules, statements about don't punishing the teams, leaked petition, 4 of 7 teams in petition tried to get the sk line up before this situation. I don't blame the players, but looks like the NA Scene is made by orgs since the players still quiet. So i blame the NA Scene, if the players express formally their opinions i would change my idea blaming only NA orgs. But the players voices does not sound loud enought to be considered vital to NA scene.
2016-07-07 05:16
7 replies
You dont get it...... EVEN IF EVERY PERSON IN NA PETITIONED FOR LG TO NOT BE ABLE TO PLAY...... ITS STILL LGS FAULT THEY BROKE THE RULES. QQ ELSEWHERE BLAME LG/SK THEY FUCKED UP. Is that easier to understand?
2016-07-07 05:21
6 replies
You and E League can suck me off kid, first they fucked over Tyloo and The Immortals now this shit? These guys are literally clueless about anything CS Go related, how fucking dumb are these rules? Yes E League we really want to see more random garbage NA teams instead of Tyloo or The Immortals, I swear to Christ if these retards replace Ex-SK & Ex-LG with more garbage tier 4 NA teams I'm not even going to bother following this anymore and I know tons of other people feel the same, these guys are cutting corners and it's sad cause this league could of been something special but no one in their right mind can say this is living up to the initial potential.
2016-07-07 05:25
What rule? What section? What page? Here in Brazil we have a positive roman law system, consists in have clearly written rules. When you left shady terms like "teams" we apply the costumes then. And the costume until now was treat team as the player component. But suddenly was convenient treat team like Organizatiom. Let's change the hltv ranking, and remove SK gaming of top 1, because the SK org was not in top 1. Convnient "rules are rules" talk
2016-07-07 05:44
3 replies
"Let's change the hltv ranking, and remove SK gaming of top 1, because the SK org was not in top 1." Pretty sure Hltv and ELeague do not run on the same rules, so why would they do this?
2016-07-07 08:04
2 replies
Ok, show me the rule that says the teams are equal organizations. This new interpretation was just created right now. The Turner Tv hosters in Brazil were saying that spots belongs to the players in tv broadcasting before this happened, and now they are looking like clowns. I have a long list of shady things that happened in this case. Managers from other events saying that players have the spots in their events. But it's alright, unfortunately this will mark the NA scene.
2016-07-07 08:13
1 reply
#825
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North America Foxaika
One thing I find ironic about the situation is the player who more than anyone wanted to create individual branding for players versus teams/orgs was vilified by Brazilians for one game.
2016-07-07 14:25
#823
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Brazil woody77
where are the rule? put on here please fat kid
2016-07-07 14:05
#824
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North America Foxaika
How are the rules shady? That's only the case if they were hidden away somewhere. They knew about this. Even if you want to go all tinfoil hat, you have to realize that this could have been avoided with more foresight from Fallen and gang.
2016-07-07 14:23
6 replies
No, they didn't knew that they would be invited to be disqualified. The Eleague organization already knew about the possible org change, it was public that the SK contract was signed in March, way before this league beginning and rules. But it's, ok, moving on, NA scene revealed his true face.
2016-07-07 22:39
5 replies
#852
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North America Foxaika
They didn't read the rules then.
2016-07-08 01:12
4 replies
Only haters talk about reading the rules. Everybody read and know that page 11, #13 and #14 left to the comissioner will what this rules means. So you can argue about rules, but the fact is: low tier NA orgs need comisioner helps to get more spots. FlipSid3 knows that and C9 too. Soon the SA scene will increase with valve's support and NA orgs only will get spots in majors with this kind of help.
2016-07-08 01:28
3 replies
#854
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North America Foxaika
Who am I hating? I don't really care about the teams involved. Note how you are so overprotective of the team you like to the point of trying to reduce my statements to blind hate. I didn't quite understand your first paragraph. Though once again, at the end of the day, if Fallen and co. had done this differently, there would be no issue for the supposedly villainous NA orgs to exploit. I think that's the bottom line.
2016-07-08 01:35
2 replies
You are defending the "rules". And i'm pointing the possible rule that everybody is talking about for being the cause of dsq. The rule is vague and clearly left the interpretation to the Event Comisioner. And we don't even have sure if this is the rule that punished them, because this "rule" thing is so poorly made. And how i said what Fallen supposed to do different? He already signed the contract with SK before the team being invited to Eleague. And it was a public act because the fight between LG and SK so the organization was noticed in all internet/community/esport site. Eleague can't argue about not knowing the new sk line up. And to correct myself, i mean Selfless and C9. I'm with flipsid3 in my mind because tomorow.
2016-07-08 01:42
1 reply
#856
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North America Foxaika
It is up for interpretation, and perhaps it should have been more clear. I don't disagree with that. But the fact of the matter is that it was interpreted that way. That isn't a point of contention. The important part is this: If they were aware of the rules(which if they were smart, they would be, this is their life work), then once again, this would never been an issue had Fallen and co made arrangements with either ELEAGUE or their org to make it so they could keep playing. That is their responsibility, not the responsibility of the league.
2016-07-08 01:49
NA CS HEUWHEUHEUWHUEWEHUWEUWEHUWEHUWEHWEUHUWHU
2016-07-07 03:44
LETS GO CLOUD9 LOL WOO
2016-07-07 03:49
I read all comments in this thread
2016-07-07 04:06
shitty, feels kinda shady.
2016-07-07 04:16
the post should be updated with information regarding the american teams making a petition to force sk and ex-sk being disqualified. min-sik ko isn't the "evil" guy here. espn.go.com/esports/story/_/id/16836428/.. of course this info should be double checked. if it's true it's important to be brought to the public's awareness.
2016-07-07 04:38
2 replies
Update: According to an ELeague spokesperson, "The decision to replace Luminosity and SK Gaming was solely based on the violation of league rules and the agreements in place with all competing teams that were established prior to our first season." It has been updated in response to that article. LG and SK knew the circumstances of what could happen, since they did sign the contracts with ELeague. They should of factored this in before coming to the decision that LG should play under SK. A good solution would be to play out any outstanding leagues before transferring to exhaust all contractual obligations to said league. Something their lawyers should of made them aware of.
2016-07-07 08:16
1 reply
according to that article the petition accuses eleague for wanting to sanction only luminosity organization initially. if that's indeed the case, the update is merely damage control and doesn't make sense otherwise. why would the NA orgs make such a petition in the first place if the verdict would remain the same and favorable to them? how could they play out any outstanding leagues before transferring when the contract with lg ran out on the first of july if you don't account the LOI. logically speaking the best solution would be to never apply to eleague since it doesn't allow changing organizations, and the best solution for ex-sk would be... well nothing. they had 0 control over the situation. i don't want to repeat what i already said about the ruling, it is outrageous and has no place in the current scene. read my previous comments if you want a better explanation why. the point i made in #753 is that the petition bit is very important and should be brought to the public's awareness.
2016-07-07 15:25
Yeszzssz get rekt favelas, karma for cheating.
2016-07-07 04:55
2 replies
#831
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Sweden X-rAy
expected from toilet cleaner
2016-07-07 14:44
1 reply
nt muslim
2016-07-08 16:31
Update: According to an ELeague spokesperson, "The decision to replace Luminosity and SK Gaming was solely based on the violation of league rules and the agreements in place with all competing teams that were established prior to our first season."
2016-07-07 04:58
Let's be honest here since day one of this shit league its pretty blatantly obvious who ever the people running this shit show are completely clueless about CS Go in general. Not long ago they took a spot that could of been given to The Immortals or Tyloo and offered it to some random shit NA team no one cares about because it was cheaper to accommodate them. Now this, something is definitively wrong here neither of ex-sk or ex-lg are should be punished at all this is a natural process that happens in e-sports all the time, when your contract is running out you look for a new home or resign to current org, reading the bullshit statements the E League retards release is a waste of time.
2016-07-07 05:21
1 reply
#822
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Brazil woody77
+1
2016-07-07 14:00
#774
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Europe Scottxaxa
Renegades don''t have Spunj so will they be disqualified or no?
2016-07-07 05:33
If it is rules, why do they need the petition? contradictory, of course it was an intrigue. We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
2016-07-07 05:46
what these guys have suffered since appeared in mlg aspen 2015 is not easy for anyone, YES THESE ARE THE REAL ONE OF BELA CAMPEAO.DIGNA BIOGRAPHY
2016-07-07 05:48
:P
2016-07-07 06:05
IM SO HAPPY HAHAHAHA FK YES, BEST READ EVER!!!! CYA TO THE WORST FANBOYS IN THE HISTORY OF CS SINCE 1999!!!
2016-07-07 06:09
3 replies
Are you serously? No... Seriously? No... Seriously No.
2016-07-07 06:14
#830
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Sweden X-rAy
im glad ur happy and your real life is fulfilled by a team being droped out of a tournament. i actualy wanted to see fnatic SK... g2 SK in the finals but hey thats just me with an imparcial thinking. think outside the box. and change that flag fakeflagger
2016-07-07 14:43
1 reply
Now we are the worst community in history, only because 5 or 6 guys like to provoke when cheer. Well, in other scenes i already saw the community doing swatts. Nice balance to judge community. Real life threats against internet trashtalk.
2016-07-07 22:50
This is so fucking stupid, FUCK ELEAGUE!!!
2016-07-07 06:15
#786
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Russia razorVJ
I like when favelas get rekt, no matter the way it happens.
2016-07-07 06:18
1 reply
Why, brazilians like so much russians =/. You broke our hearts.
2016-07-07 06:22
#787
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Faroe Islands _shubaN
deserved for rekt
2016-07-07 06:20
- Ricardo Sinigaglia &#8207;@SK_deadcsgo about the petiton...we've declined 4 offers from those orgs before sk...I guess it's just karma..but for sk it's poaching lol --- That explains a lot. Those orgs cannod were stuck with their losers and need to cry. Shame!
2016-07-07 06:27
GJ much respect to Mr Min Sik Ko for not letting his old ties with SK Gaming interfere with official rules. This is what is needed in e-sports. The monkeys from Brazil got money hungry and ran to SK Gaming but rules are rules. Deal with it monkeys!
2016-07-07 06:40
2 replies
#792
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Denmark LnDcsgo
Not monkeys but agreed, rules are rules. And they knew it BEFORE switching orgs.. So fallen just punished SK/x..
2016-07-07 06:59
#829
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Sweden X-rAy
why fakeflag mad baguette? cause SA team rekt ur team? yeah take n#1 team in world good for the tournament and sponsors. i like when u say they knew the rules...have u even read them? its not clear but yet again ur prolly 12 dont even know what ur talkin about and come drop hate on hltv. easy ban
2016-07-07 14:40
rip xD
2016-07-07 06:55
rip my time watching elegue... i think im gonna study in that time haha
2016-07-07 07:01
#794
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Australia SUNSPY
I'll keep watching for the games but RIP ELEAGUE you are dead to so many of us. GL getting those new viewers, you know with the TV thing. Have fun telling them in this sport you ban the best team in the world because they changed name. Happy ratings.
2016-07-07 07:05
EL you're a disgrace to cs go
2016-07-07 07:17
First, the contract situation. Now getting DQ'd for a rules violation. Maybe it's time FalleN learn how to read...?
2016-07-07 07:30
3 replies
Everyone is talking about rules broken, but until now i didn't see these people showing the rule. It's easier for some people stop being hypocrite and just admit that they just want sk out no matter the reason.
2016-07-07 07:42
2 replies
I say let them play... in the LCQ round. That's what SK Gaming qualified for. I have some sympathy for the organization, absolutely zero for the players.
2016-07-07 07:46
1 reply
Man, Fallen is a nice guy man, they helped a lot of cs player in Brazil learn about Counter Strike, he was moving his videos to english community. It's bad that you don't like him. I don't like coldzera too.
2016-07-07 22:43
rekt favela
2016-07-07 07:34
LG are bigger than this one tourney anyway. gonna win cologne.
2016-07-07 07:43
#803
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Luxembourg alex24
favelas deserved this gg justice is served
2016-07-07 07:47
2 replies
envy
2016-07-07 09:54
1 reply
#816
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Luxembourg alex24
envy are out in groups whats your point ?
2016-07-07 10:17
Cant believe how many idiots in this thread
2016-07-07 08:17
rekt monkeys
2016-07-07 08:31
1 reply
#871
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Brazil prkz0r
2016-07-11 00:07
I would be so mad if i was in team x right now. Guys literally couldn't do a shit about that and ends up being home.
2016-07-07 08:34
poor team x.. on the other hand favela rekt.
2016-07-07 08:35
ez for RNG.Rickeh
2016-07-07 10:02
Sad for team x, favela expected
2016-07-07 10:22
Why C9 and not another team from last-chance bracket?
2016-07-07 10:38
1 reply
#828
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North America Foxaika
Because if not for SK they'd have the spot.
2016-07-07 14:30
FUCK ELEAGUE!!!!!!!!! ESL BEST!!!!!!!!! ESL > ECS > DH >ELEAGUE
2016-07-07 13:23
#826
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Brazil woody77
FalleN, TACO, fer, olof, TaZ, JW, NBK, JDM, EligE, MoE, ZeuS, Friis, s1mple, NiKO, shox, ShazaM, lurppis, steel, nak, bit, felps, FNS, hazed, Sadokist, Anders, Ynk, markeloff, ptr, Devilwalk, ScreaM... And many other professional players and caster told that LG / SK was banned unfairly and should continue in the league, but these assholes children in hltv.org still argue that ELEAGUE are right, will you fail to realize that was a clear sanction putting orgs in front of players, it happened to ex-LG / ex-SK, but it could have happened to any other team world, including what you like, stop being hypocrites, it was a play behind the scenes, an affront to the rights of players... Do you realize how this world is lost when you see young people who are the future of tomorrow, support a wrong cause, because simply do not like the involved Another detail is that people have forgotten the scandal of invites for this championship? And they have delayed that still defend the company ...
2016-07-07 14:29
so bad
2016-07-07 14:29
#833
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Sweden X-rAy
Na teams made a petition to disqualify SK GJ USA coward cunts as usual. Thats how they hate u SK...next time u play them...dont even shake hands conflict of interest? this aint football there is no referee is just aim and shoot.
2016-07-07 14:48
2 replies
They made a petition to keep them in u retard
2016-07-08 16:33
1 reply
#864
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Brazil Dark182
No they didn't
2016-07-09 03:17
#835
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Finland muglobal
expected
2016-07-07 14:52
roster changes, Kappa
2016-07-07 14:55
A journalist from ESPN said that those following orgs have wrote a petition to disqualfy LG and SK (Cloud 9, Liquid, CLG, Echo Fox, NRG Esports, OpTic Gaming and TSM) source : teamplay.com.br/coberturas/eleague/13309..
2016-07-07 19:16
#862
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Brazil pdho
shame
2016-07-08 17:48
and who is getting their prize ? the org ? ;) fucking scammers, always trying to get someone disqualified/ban to win the left prize pool
2016-07-08 20:01
#865
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Brunei cyLoL
O.o wait so does this mean that Fnatic have to play with wenton and not olof , because he wasnt on the roster that played the groups ?
2016-07-09 08:13
1 reply
#866
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Brazil potat
or maybe fnatic should be disqualified aswell. or maybe no one should be disqualified and ppl just stop being assholes #thedream
2016-07-09 08:23
#867
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Belgium yoL0
who is gonna play for spunj?
2016-07-10 00:58
Min-Sik Ko plz change EL rules thats disgusting
2016-07-10 19:20
MAJOR É NOSSO, FODA-SE ESSA MERDA
2016-07-10 19:49
this is absurd!
2016-07-10 20:09
ealeague? SK got 2 majors. Next edition they gonna win as well. These guys need another vacation @ vegas.
2016-07-11 17:20
WHY ELEAGUE IF THEY GOT 2 MAJORS? TUNER SUCK MY BLACKDICK AND THE DICK OF FALLEN'S GF
2016-07-13 02:42
This rule is so naive. It is only an org change. The players are the same.
2016-07-15 08:38
1 reply
Indeed, this decision will hurt there reputation, as well as cost them respect to many. Two teams who are top contenders who do not have any intentions of hurting e-league legally. Rules must be reformed. A roster change would make more sense than an org change. I can assume their contract was poorly written and did not include the words, 'current organization' and probably specified it had to be the org they started with, in some way.
2016-07-15 08:48
FearLeague
2016-07-29 13:43
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