Pro League wildcards up for vote

ESL has announced that the final two Pro League spots will be determined by community vote and a subsequent decider match in each region.

With Season 4 of the ESL Pro League due to start on August 17, there are still two slots - one per division - up for grabs, which will be filled by wildcard teams.

Instead of issuing invites like it did last season, when FaZe and Renegades took the final spots in the league, ESL has revealed that the last two teams will be determined by community vote, with four sides in the running per division. The two teams with the most votes will then battle it out in a best-of-three decider match.


Virtus.pro could get a spot back in Pro League 

ELEAGUE champions Virtus.pro, who were demoted to the Premier division after losing a relegation match against PENTA, could be getting a redemption vote and stay in the Pro League if they pass the vote and then better either Gambit, GODSENT and ENCE for the final spot.

In North America, it will be Luminosity's new team, ECS Season 1 finals surprise package TSM, Echo Fox and Kaliber vying for the wildcard spot.

Europe North America
Poland Virtus.pro Canada TSM
Russia Gambit United States Echo Fox
Sweden GODSENT Canada Kaliber
Finland ENCE Brazil Luminosity

Fans can vote for their favorite teams by heading over to ESL's website, where voting will stay open until Monday, August 8, at 20:00, while the dates of the decider matches are still undetermined. 

#2
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Bulgaria kr9ptonn 
nice ez for ence
2016-08-02 18:05
ez for VP in EU vote. Don't know what I'd vote for US, all the teams are trash.
2016-08-02 18:09
#67
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Bulgaria kr9ptonn 
Kaliber cuz ODEAG KKona
2016-08-02 18:10
TSM is decent
2016-08-02 18:20
haha it was obvious vp is gonna be in there...
2016-08-02 18:05
#4
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Sweden fearl3ss2 
EZ 4 ENCE professional eSports organization ENCE E-sports containing of AWPer Aleksi "Allu" Jalli, ingame leader Niko "naSu" Kovanen, rifler Miikka "suNny" Kemppi, allround player Juho "Juhob" Lampinen & the mad fragger Mikko "Xarte" Välimaa from the finnish eSports organization ENCE e-sports from the nordic country Finland
2016-08-02 18:07
V O T E 4 M E M E S #EZ4ENCE
2016-08-02 18:16
#5
eneshan | 
Poland [P]iku 
n1
2016-08-02 18:04
n1
2016-08-02 18:04
#7
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Europe SteffeM 
ez
2016-08-02 18:04
nmice
2016-08-02 18:04
Gingers have no souls.
2016-08-02 18:05
#10
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Finland MarcusXGod 
nice
2016-08-02 18:05
Voted for VP and TSM. Pretty much everyone should, they're the clear best teams on both sides.
2016-08-02 18:14
Disagree looking at VPs online performance Godsent would be best in eu
2016-08-02 18:23
Godsent ain't better online. ^^
2016-08-02 18:35
Godsent is terrible online as well
2016-08-02 18:36
+1 godsent and tsm
2016-08-02 20:18
1st time ever you have opportunity to actually make it EZ for ENCE and this guy here ^ fails to do it.
2016-08-02 18:38
same
2016-08-02 22:18
k
2016-08-02 18:05
4s
2016-08-02 18:05
#14
Aleksib | 
Finland f1nch 
vote ENCE
2016-08-02 18:05
lel
2016-08-02 18:04
2
2016-08-02 18:04
69
2016-08-02 18:04
lol
2016-08-02 18:04
#19
LUq | 
Poland dnbk1ng 
FAK
2016-08-02 18:05
#20
Poland Meox 
ez4 ence
2016-08-02 18:05
#21
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
ez for ence
2016-08-02 18:05
ez ENCE
2016-08-02 18:05
#24
KRIMZ | 
Denmark slacking 
virtus premier LUL
2016-08-02 18:05
#25
Europe SLTV 
srsly
2016-08-02 18:05
#26
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Brazil Nimenz 
EZ 4 LG.......SK....
2016-08-02 18:05
#27
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Finland Al_Aziz 
ez 4 ence
2016-08-02 18:05
#28
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World Notb8ing 
ez4ence?
2016-08-02 18:05
#29
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Netherlands Swini 
So VP basically gets their spot back
2016-08-02 18:05
#75
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Iceland Iceland 
They are the only good team on the list.
2016-08-02 18:12
#321
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United Kingdom twmStauM 
they don't deserve it at all... gambit deserve it way more, maybe even godsent. vp have been seen as a top invite team for their whole GO careers, whereas if gambit, godsent or ENCE got a chance to prove themselves it would be way more fair. obviously VP will win because of all the polaks...
2016-08-03 00:02
#340
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Australia JonoMate 
This is only for the best teams and VP just won a big tournament, so yes they do deserve it even if last season says otherwise
2016-08-03 01:42
EZ ENCE
2016-08-02 18:05
ez for ence
2016-08-02 18:05
What a joke. After idk how many loses from vp, they still have a chance to participate in the league. First win premier vp...
2016-08-02 18:05
That would be retarded to not offert a chance for VP to requalify considering their récent results (ESL Cologne and EL) Also, who could they invite other than VP? It's already ridiculous to think that ENCE could get a spot in the Pro League, since they've been shit since the beginning and barely played on international LAN (they had a minor and DHS)
2016-08-02 20:04
So league A is now league B? Sorry but vp got a whole season to win more than 6 matches, then at final the league got extended and they only needed to win ONE match and they failed. Then they created a tourney so they got another chance. They got 2 chances there and at the end they failed to win from penta. At final, they also decline the premier spot because they're too good for that... Sorry but if they had played a season in premier, I was okay with it but this is just pure shit for other teams. Whatever happens, vp will stay in the league because esl wants that
2016-08-02 20:08
+1. I like VP. I wanna see them in Pro League. But they don't deserved it one bit this time around.
2016-08-02 22:13
F U C K voting, it isn't 2010 anymore. Host a showmatch PLEASE make it happen FEW / SCREAM / Prius / Torbull / etc. Although real talk VP deserves the spot
2016-08-02 18:06
How do VP deserve the spot? They finished dead last in Season 3 which should have automatically relegated them anyway, but ESL decided to change the league to 14 teams to give VP another chance with a relegation game against Penta and they even lost that. Played 25 maps and lost 20 of them. They absolutely do not deserve the spot.
2016-08-02 18:21
#170
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World Vidua 
They are top 3 team CSGO team on the planet right now, and are a team under a huge eSports brand with millions of fans and millions on bank account. That's how they deserve it. Grow up, real world works differently.
2016-08-02 18:38
No. That's why they'll get the spot, not why they would deserve it.
2016-08-02 19:06
Well they lost against germans online. Germans. Online. U can fight however you want, but it aint gonna change the fact that VP is by far the best team and not only real threat for any team, but probably the best european team in that league atm. So please go cry about unafirness of the world somewhere else, cause everyone who actually got a brain can easily assess the situation. VP has to be there. Its in good interest of ESL to give that spot to VP...
2016-08-02 19:41
+111111
2016-08-03 06:19
yes !
2016-08-03 01:21
top4 cologne champions proleague tbqh idgaf how they did in some online matches, who watches online CS these days when we have LANs every other weekend
2016-08-03 13:50
#35
Brazil jlp 
vote? rofl thats the most retarded shit i've ever seen at least i can bot the shit out of this vote
2016-08-02 18:05
#63
Aleksib | 
Finland f1nch 
except you need esl accounts
2016-08-02 18:09
#74
Brazil jlp 
?? so?
2016-08-02 18:12
#76
Aleksib | 
Finland f1nch 
You need to also make a bunch of esl accounts. Not so easy to bot.
2016-08-02 18:12
Bot for ence, do it for memes
2016-08-02 18:49
"vote? rofl thats the most retarded shit i've ever seen" brasilian democracy in a nutshell
2016-08-02 18:30
#150
Brazil jlp 
? popularity contest =/= best team you fucking retard kill yourself
2016-08-02 18:31
#189
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Finland Hunajaperse 
is that how u choose ur politics? deathmatch?
2016-08-02 18:46
#193
Brazil jlp 
was that supposed to be a funny reply? is this finnish humour?
2016-08-02 18:49
#195
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Finland Hunajaperse 
sry, it was kinda bad (((((
2016-08-02 18:49
but close to reality just look at the social state of rio and the housing politics etc. but i mean this is their pattern since 1998 or so
2016-08-02 18:57
thanks for the lulz
2016-08-02 21:33
#311
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Brazil hugoalmeida 
hahhahahahhahah
2016-08-02 22:36
Well, just pretend if everyone vote ENCE as a best team in the world without winning any Majors...
2016-08-03 05:49
#36
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Germany Bennime 
its so dumb that VP gets a 2nd chance.
2016-08-02 18:05
It's not only VP, there are 7 teams more. And looking from viewers side, VP is the best option.
2016-08-02 18:52
WHAT??? So it's like previous season of EPL didn't even happen for VP. Finnishing last place and losing relegation match (to fuckin PENTA!!!) should be punishing. Some teams like Echo Fox atleast won Premier. If Flipsid3 would've finnished last, they might've still been among these 8 teams to vote for, but they wouldn't get the wildcard, because they don't have whole Poland voting for them.
2016-08-02 19:55
#277
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Germany Bennime 
+1
2016-08-02 20:44
+1
2016-08-02 21:45
#37
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Japan eoeoeoewowow 
If VP gets back their spot back i'm fucking done.
2016-08-02 18:06
all vote ence
2016-08-02 18:06
Vote for ENCE and EchoFox
2016-08-02 18:06
#57
Aleksib | 
Finland f1nch 
+1 haha
2016-08-02 18:09
VP shouldn't get free spot, would be unfair to GODSENT. Also TSM should get wild card over EF and Luminosity, but the favelas might overwhelm voting;/
2016-08-02 18:06
#41
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World Notb8ing 
Vote like this is retarded, virtus premier doesnt deserve spot unless they actually play for it...
2016-08-02 18:06
#72
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Germany 1criT 
+1
2016-08-02 18:11
+1
2016-08-02 18:20
But the other teams that havent done shit deserves?
2016-08-02 18:22
#141
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World Notb8ing 
Well, could have had teams who did best in premier play this qualifier and then some wild card teams who in general have done best like vp and godsent instead of retarded vote which might result way too ez chance for team who refused to play lower league. If it would be proper qualifier at least it would be fair enough if they win it but now it seems stupid someone just can do whatever and still might get easy spot xD....
2016-08-02 18:28
Yeah i read more about the stuff, the top2 gets to play a decider match to get the wildcard spot. But i kinda agree when i see the teams like Godsent and Gambit. Maybe a round-robin for seeding then a bo3 decider format.
2016-08-02 18:39
They are in based on ESEA Premier and other ESL tournament success so they have done shit to deserve this place.
2016-08-03 00:21
+1 fuck ESL always trying to save VP
2016-08-02 18:44
lol VP did play for it... and lost vs PENTA, twice. In terms of the pro League itself the do not deserve the spot.
2016-08-02 18:51
#42
MEZi | 
Finland Sukrami 
Vote ENCE
2016-08-02 18:06
is this serious not the best team wins but the most popular one WHAT ?
2016-08-02 18:06
#81
BnTeT | 
Poland B4R73K 
In this case best and most popular are the same..
2016-08-02 18:13
lul ez ence
2016-08-02 19:08
In a hypothetical world, let's say if Man U wins the UEFA CL but gets relegated from the EPL, do they get their EPL spot back? No. Because they are relegated and thats it. If you want to earn a spot, you have to prove it. VP had so many bites on the apple and yet failed to retain the Pro League spot. Do you think that it is fair to other teams that VP just get reinvited to Pro League due to a popularity contest?
2016-08-03 00:41
#336
BnTeT | 
Poland B4R73K 
no, and I voted Godsent don't give a shit about online joke matches, and VP players don't give a shit more than me.. It's just the VP org and ESL that wants them to play there for prestige and views, pretty sure they have some deal... however if they dont qualify I don't think even VP org can make NEO and TaZ play retarded premier
2016-08-03 01:18
ez4ence
2016-08-02 18:06
what is luminosity's lineup?
2016-08-02 18:07
#137
Relaxa | 
Brazil Didico 
old winout lineup destiny bit nak yeL PKL
2016-08-02 18:26
> "In the process of picking the eight teams for the voting we have taken recent success, overall team strength, the world rankings and the ESEA League system into consideration." Outside of some rinky dink CEVO tournaments, what has Luminosity's success been? I smell bullshiiiiiiit.
2016-08-02 18:07
losing against Team Rival
2016-08-02 18:42
I watched that match last night, and it's not like they're even clear-cut to win ESEA-Main anymore. There are plenty of other teams who fit ESL's criteria and are just as accomplished as LG/WinOut. Which is why I'm calling bullsheet. Which is fine, but atleast be honest ;)
2016-08-02 18:46
Well its hard to win ESEA-Main without your full roster.
2016-08-02 18:46
They're allowed to use their full five in the playoffs. It was only during the regular season they had to use AGM and Jacobson.
2016-08-02 18:53
Didnt know that. Thanks best (serious) HLTV user!
2016-08-02 18:49
#48
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Latvia Avalank 
voted for VP and TSM. :)
2016-08-02 18:07
#52
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Switzerland Sylleo 
carmac is a good polak
2016-08-02 18:08
#53
NEO | 
Iran TireDMaN 
VOTE FOR VP
2016-08-02 18:08
#54
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Argentina Reymon 
This is for Virtus.Premier
2016-08-02 18:08
EU - Probably be VP. NA - Probably either Echo Fox or TSM.
2016-08-02 18:08
thats why vp is high ranked with a lot of points, cause they are almost winning every tournament literally without enemies.. vp are not that good in t1, but compared against this teames they are actually god tier
2016-08-02 18:09
So the recent eleague win was without enemies? K then
2016-08-02 18:17
i said ALMOST, u cant read?
2016-08-02 19:01
TSM and ENCE guys! Make Virtus go to Premier!
2016-08-02 18:09
#160
MEZi | 
Finland Sukrami 
+1
2016-08-02 18:35
#226
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CIS Merlas_mtk 
You know VP will win right?
2016-08-02 19:23
That doesnt mean I cant want them to lose.
2016-08-02 22:30
Oh come on, VP wildcard is such a joke.
2016-08-02 18:09
this process of adding a new team into the league is not only lazy, but completely bullshit. there should be an offline qualifier for the next pro league season which is decided by BO3 series.
2016-08-02 18:09
Lets go ENCE!
2016-08-02 18:09
Voting for ENCE
2016-08-02 18:09
ez4ence
2016-08-02 18:09
#68
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El Salvador belaC 
ence and tsm boys CMON LETS GET ENCE IN PRO LEAGUE
2016-08-02 18:10
#69
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Poland trancemeister 
VP / LG :)
2016-08-02 18:10
same here... i feel bad for TSM... lol
2016-08-02 19:43
ENCE in Pro League xD Also they should fucking play for the spots, retarded how now there's probably no chance for a team like Gambit
2016-08-02 18:10
#80
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World Notb8ing 
Yea it is rly dumb, why not just play instead of stupid vote where meme team might even win and get to final instead of better team...
2016-08-02 18:13
it doesnt matter what the vote results will be, they will pick VP anyways...
2016-08-02 18:11
GODSENT & Echo Fox gogogo
2016-08-02 18:11
ez 4 ence
2016-08-02 18:12
#78
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United States admiralsid 
By vote? Well that's retarded.
2016-08-02 18:13
voted for vp and echo fox
2016-08-02 18:13
#82
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United Kingdom wtfprototype 
It's gonna be VP vs ENCE in EU and likely Echo Fox vs either TSM or Luminosity, i would favour VP to return and Echo Fox to make it to PL
2016-08-02 18:13
#85
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China Jav!eRy~ 
VP deserves the spot in theory. But seriously, I can't imagine a team that should have attended Premier League could stay in Pro League just by boycotting the lower level league.
2016-08-02 18:15
#88
CIS Ume 
Wont vote for Virtus.premier thats for sure.
2016-08-02 18:17
DEN I VONT VOTE FOR GAMBIT
2016-08-02 18:43
Yeah I like VP but won't vote for them as this is incredibly unfair
2016-08-02 22:22
This is a joke.
2016-08-02 18:17
I hope tsm wins, but maybe lot of brazillians will vote for new lg :/ I want to see how tsm fare against na's best
2016-08-02 18:17
I vote VP and TSM my friend :D
2016-08-02 18:18
VP plz
2016-08-02 18:17
vote for VP and TSM!!:)))
2016-08-02 18:17
#93
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World smash143 
What a joke, whats the point of a relegation system if VP are just going to be promoted back to pro league without even playing premier. It should at least be an online qualifier, which is much more fair and less of a popularity contest.
2016-08-02 18:17
#98
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World Notb8ing 
Well there is qualifier but it is 2 most popular teams who play which is dumb, why not make proper qualifier, best teams of premier + some wc ?___? Could even play it all like in one day if they rly want...
2016-08-02 18:19
#178
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World Vidua 
> Could even play it all like in one day if they rly want... Which would cost ESL money and VP would still easily win. What's the point?
2016-08-02 18:41
#96
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Switzerland Sylleo 
vote for WESA.VP so they can play the next season of WESA.ESL
2016-08-02 18:18
#97
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Finland Paahtonautti 
EZ4ENCE
2016-08-02 18:18
lol
2016-08-02 18:19
expected carmac would put VP in again
2016-08-02 18:19
Ez for VP and TSM... I wanna vote on LG but TSM really deserved that spot.
2016-08-02 18:19
#103
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Brazil XEMBAO 
Ence and TSM, lets GO
2016-08-02 18:19
EZ4ENCE kKona
2016-08-02 18:20
#112
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France t3r4byt3 
GODSENT and TSM
2016-08-02 18:20
VP
2016-08-02 18:21
#116
fnx | 
Brazil DroidNTC 
Vamos guys, vamos da essa vaga pros mlk da LG eles merecem, tão se didicando mt ao game
2016-08-02 18:21
#117
Europe g_G 
ENCE and TSM :-)
2016-08-02 18:21
#119
CeRq | 
Canada Timings 
Godsent and EchoFox is most interesting. But think TSM and VP is getting in! :)
2016-08-02 18:22
#122
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Poland Mannix 
1o1 How to get away with not inviting Virtus.Pro (aka shitstorm in the community) but still get them to stay in Pro League. Nice one ESL you think community is that dumb LOL
2016-08-02 18:22
the community is that dumb lol
2016-08-02 18:24
#145
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Poland Mannix 
sad but true :( Voted for Godsent btw
2016-08-02 18:29
+1 (IQ)
2016-08-02 22:26
#125
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Norway Napapijri 
go, ENCE!
2016-08-02 18:23
#127
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Brazil ;---) 
VP and TSM
2016-08-02 18:23
#129
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Finland Vaporizeq 
ez4ence
2016-08-02 18:24
#130
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Poland Barcelonista 
hard trying to get vp back in esl pro league
2016-08-02 18:24
#131
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Finland kAlluYT 
Ence + Echo Fox pls
2016-08-02 18:24
If the EU vote goes to any other team than VP, ESL will change the League to more teams and continue with whatever random ideas they can come up until they're in.
2016-08-02 18:25
#139
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Sweden godname 
bot teams
2016-08-02 18:27
GODSENT + LG
2016-08-02 18:28
The two teams with the most votes will then battle it out in a best-of-three decider match. ROFL VP-ENCE and Luminosity - Echo Fox I hope VP and LG will get the spots...others would be just a waste
2016-08-02 18:28
VP don't deserve the spot, shoudlve been relegated and lost relegation match to penta, they shouldn't even have a chance.
2016-08-04 03:25
Ayyyy they done it again found a way to keep a team in pro that shouldn't be. At this point i don't understand the point of the demotion system if you don't get demoted for losing :D
2016-08-02 18:29
#146
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Switzerland c0yot3 
GUYS ALL VOTE FOR ENCE, DANK MEME
2016-08-02 18:29
ez for ence
2016-08-02 18:29
well I just voted for vp and lg instead of ence and echofox :(
2016-08-02 18:37
VP and LG
2016-08-02 18:31
VP and LG <3
2016-08-02 18:32
I hope godsent don't get the vote, they are the least deserving team outta those 4 :D
2016-08-02 18:32
ENCE 4 EZ!!!!!!
2016-08-02 18:33
VP and LG <3
2016-08-02 18:33
Okay so whenever a decent and popular is in a slump and it doesn't manage to stay in division 1, they'll just get a free run through the Wildcard tournament.
2016-08-02 18:34
EZ 4 ENCE
2016-08-02 18:35
This is a joke. Most of these teams dont even deserve a nomination and are just favorites by the community. EU: -VP: VP dont deserve it because THEY LOST THE LAST SEASON. They even lost a bo3 against PENTA. Why should you invite them back to the pro league if they are shit in it? -ENCE: Really? You would invite a team because of a meme? They have no achievement/results at all. GODSENT and Gambit are ok. NA: -Luminosity: This team doesnt have any achievements/results either. Sadly all the SK/Immortals fanboys will vote for LG because they are brasillian as well. They arent even good against NA teams. They just lost yesterday a bo3 against Team Rival. -Echo Fox: This team will also get many votes by NA fans (especially (former) Cloud9 fans). They at least have something: a win on Dust 2 against Na'Vi and are #1 in ESEA Premier but this team still dont deserve the place. -Team Kaliber: OCEANs team doesnt deserve it as well but they wont get many votes anyway. Only TSM deserves it.
2016-08-02 18:35
so true, especially the one from Lumi.
2016-08-02 18:37
Epsilon or Team X deserved more than ENCE tbh.
2016-08-02 18:38
This is a joke. Most of these teams dont even deserve a nomination and are just favorites by the community. EU: -VP: VP dont deserve it because THEY LOST THE LAST SEASON. They even lost a bo3 against PENTA. Why should you invite them back to the pro league if they are shit in it? -ENCE: Really? You would invite a team because of a meme? They have no achievement/results at all. GODSENT and Gambit are ok. NA: -Luminosity: This team doesnt have any achievements/results either. Sadly all the SK/Immortals fanboys will vote for LG because they are brasillian as well. They arent even good against NA teams. They just lost yesterday a bo3 against Team Rival. -Echo Fox: This team will also get many votes by NA fans (especially (former) Cloud9 fans). They at least have something: a win on Dust 2 against Na'Vi and are #1 in ESEA Premier but this team still dont deserve the place. -Team Kaliber: OCEANs team doesnt deserve it as well but they wont get many votes anyway. Only TSM deserves it.
2016-08-02 18:39
#315
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Finland Slyp3 
ence has won godsent almost every time they played against each other D:
2016-08-02 22:51
pretty sure team x is in pro league already
2016-08-02 18:41
#240
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Spain Alser 
Team X is already in the Pro League though. You're right about Epsilon
2016-08-02 19:48
How? ENCE have beaten Epsilon all the time, how would they not deserve it before Epsilon? lol
2016-08-03 00:23
#334
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Spain Alser 
Online head to head doesn't mean shit. Epsilon won a $100,000 LAN tournament 2 weeks ago, ENCE goes out in groups in every tournament
2016-08-03 00:56
Lel won a tier 100 Chinese tournament that just happened to have a big price pool.
2016-08-05 01:35
#224
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Finland Doom_69 
ence>gambit,godsent
2016-08-02 19:20
They lost to Germans Online. Onliners is the best word to describe whole german cs community. VP gained a crown pf best european team and U want them out ? How stupid are you? You want quickes on ence or other shit teams or prefer clashes of titans?
2016-08-02 19:45
They didnt only lost against PENTA. They lost against Pro League teams 18/22 times. They were LAST behind teams like F3 or SK in the last season. If you would have read everything you would also know that I dont want ENCE in it. Why am I even replying to you? You wont read/understand it anyway.
2016-08-02 19:49
Dude they didnt give a shit about this league the moment they lost chance to get to LAN. Cant blame them actually. Can we?
2016-08-02 20:42
uhm yes? They could, like every team, try to not get demoted to premier. They didnt try it. Why should they now get invited to pro again?
2016-08-02 20:47
>Losing to penta >Top 10 Pick one
2016-08-03 05:57
This so much.
2016-08-02 22:30
A team which gets demoted should never be invited to be promoted again lol. Nice logic ESL.
2016-08-02 18:36
Godsent - VP and TSM - Echo Fox I hope TSM and Godsent make it :D
2016-08-02 18:36
This is retarded, what's the point of playing premier if Echo Fox has to depend on a community vote. Whats the idea behind being a shit online team like Virtus Pro and still getting back into the league for fuck all.
2016-08-02 18:37
+1
2016-08-02 19:18
They need to stick to a proper relegation system. Top two of Premier in, bottom two of PL out. Third place decider BO3. Or along those lines.
2016-08-02 22:32
#167
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Poland mamba99999 
www.strawpoll.me/10896685
2016-08-02 18:37
godsent and ence just for the lols
2016-08-02 18:38
#171
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Finland Hyp3rrr 
EZ4ENCE
2016-08-02 18:38
EZ4ENCE
2016-08-02 18:38
#176
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Finland Hunajaperse 
ez 4 ence
2016-08-02 18:40
Virtus.Premier is getting so many chances, this is so fucked. They lost the league and should play premier, it's as easy as that
2016-08-02 18:41
BETTER BE ENCE OR I RIOT
2016-08-02 18:43
#183
N4j | 
Germany N4j 
VP and TSM
2016-08-02 18:44
Why not Kinguin? Kinguin > Ence, Gambit, Godsent
2016-08-02 18:45
could be getting a redemption vote and stay in the Pro League if they pass the vote and then better either Gambit, GODSENT and ENCE for the final spot. beat*** not better just :)
2016-08-02 18:46
To be fair 'better' works in this context too
2016-08-02 22:34
ez 4 ence
2016-08-02 18:51
I think it's stupid that the top 2 from NA will probably be Luminosity and TSM. It will be such an easy win for TSM + the Luminosity roster is only on the list to make favelas dicks hard. They haven't accomplished anything as a core lineup, infact I'd say EF has done more. Also to add on, they're only doing this so that way they can add back VP without getting any negative press from it. Fucking clowns.
2016-08-02 18:52
I'd vote for Virtus.Pro and Echo Fox, but thanks to their registration system I won't and I don't really care.
2016-08-02 18:56
You do not have ESL account? Omg, u new.
2016-08-02 19:11
I do have an account but I forgot the password and that account is linked to Steam account that I sold many years ago, I contacted ESL support but they refused to remove that link from that account, so I don't really want to use that account at all. Ofc I can create a new one, but to do it just to participate in a single vote is a bit too much, I visit esl site like 1 time per year at best, so I don't need any accounts there.
2016-08-02 19:25
#204
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Estonia jossd 
VP and TSM
2016-08-02 18:57
VOTE ENCE
2016-08-02 19:00
#207
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
Guys, don't worry. VP will get most votes and then lose the online bo3. :)
2016-08-02 19:00
lul ? Ence win this eZ
2016-08-02 19:13
LETS GO ENCE
2016-08-02 19:02
#210
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United States SoNftw 
VP/Godsent and Echo Fox/TSM?!
2016-08-02 19:03
Ez for ence
2016-08-02 19:08
VP and Echo Fox :P
2016-08-02 19:10
#216
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Let's go BRAZIL! We can do it! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL!
2016-08-02 19:11
1-2 against Team Rival
2016-08-03 05:42
#370
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Hello groupStage!
2016-08-03 06:15
Hello 23-24th!
2016-08-03 06:29
VP are the best team but fairly lost their place. Should have to fight their way back in. Gambit are a LAN team. Ence are obviously top 1 so it wouldn't be fair for other teams to compete against them. Would like to see how Godsent do. TSM should get the NA spot.
2016-08-02 19:12
#218
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
LG VP Godsent No one else, ty.
2016-08-02 19:13
#220
liTTle | 
CIS Dowa) 
VOTE 4 EZ ENCE
2016-08-02 19:13
#221
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Finland Doom_69 
ENCE ENCE ENCE
2016-08-02 19:14
#223
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Austria db42 
CMON HLTV LETS DO THIS LETS GET ENCE TO EPL BECAUSE ITS SO GODDAMN FUCKING EASY FOR THEM
2016-08-02 19:20
made an esl account just to vote for ence and some random na team
2016-08-02 19:21
Unbelieviable. Vp gets another chance to stay in the pro league. Bullshit biased esl. Why the fuck are relegation playoffs anyway if they dont relegate teams?
2016-08-02 19:33
#229
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Greece tzonis 
vp shouldnt have another chance. they failed to win vs penta in a bo3 decider anyway and they were the worst in epl last season.
2016-08-02 19:39
Ex efrag GOT FUCKING ROBBED THEY FINISHED 1ST in division and same as ence in playoffs. It's cuz we're from BULGARIA It's point less to even have a main or premier if you can just leap frog those divisions and go straight to Pro division just because someone likes you. Why the fuck is LG there they haven't done shit, they gotta prove themselves not all Brazilian teams are good. Echofox sit on 1st place in premier so why vote for them when they're gnna get a slot in pro regardless? Why waste a vote on them? Bravado move to NA to get a pro spot :) Plz don't vote for VP those fucks lost fair and square.
2016-08-02 19:41
Go ENCE and Echo Fox!!
2016-08-02 19:40
ENCE PLZ
2016-08-02 19:40
They shouldve let those four teams play each other, the winner gets the spot, not by the vote
2016-08-02 19:42
#235
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Estonia Qlity 
ENCE
2016-08-02 19:42
#237
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Europe KappaKaako 
VOTE FOR ENCE
2016-08-02 19:44
i feel bad for TSM... but i think everybody will vote for LG (in NA) and VP (EU)... :|
2016-08-02 19:45
same... LG is a shit team
2016-08-02 19:59
ez4ence
2016-08-02 19:49
#243
HUNDEN | 
Other ToRu 
ez for VP and LG
2016-08-02 19:52
Ez if they actually play,knowing this community,they will fucking vote for ENCE ,coz the ez4ence meme
2016-08-02 19:55
#250
HUNDEN | 
Other ToRu 
nah... hltv just say ''ez4ence'' but will vote no VP for sure
2016-08-02 19:57
VP do not deserve it...dont vote for them please
2016-08-02 19:54
#263
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Poland mamba99999 
They deserve it more than any of those teams, stop the butt-hurt pls.
2016-08-02 20:11
no they dont.. last place + lost to penta in relegation.. fuck off fanboy
2016-08-02 20:14
#266
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Poland mamba99999 
This was months ago. It would be silly if there was a ESL Pro League now without the nr3 team. And just to remind you, right after their loss to Penta there were rumor that they could recieve the WildCard, just like this.
2016-08-02 20:16
So tanking in the league and in your 2nd chance that when given fucked another team over, they fucked that up too and still they deserve to get in? Makes no sense what so ever. If you want the best teams then sure they should be there but by no chance do they DESERVE to be there.
2016-08-03 00:27
+1111111111111111..... .......111111111111111111111
2016-08-03 14:37
Hope people dont fucking trollvote for ENCE. This aint a joke lol.
2016-08-02 19:54
I really hope Brazilians aren't voting for LG just because they're Brazilians, or because they think it's a good team (SK)
2016-08-02 19:55
thank ma frend, i voted in VP and LG xD
2016-08-02 20:11
rip this is why community votes suck
2016-08-02 20:17
yes, community votes suck, should not exist
2016-08-02 20:26
I really hope polish aren't voting for VP just because they're polish, or because they think it's a good team
2016-08-02 21:44
There's some key differences there Mr. Dumb Favela VP is better than all 3 of the other options whereas 2/3 NA options are better than LG Everyone knows that VP is VP, but some people will probably think that LG is the roster that won a major nt favela
2016-08-02 21:47
There's some key differences there Mr. Dumb Toilet Cleaner VP ALREADY FKING LOST
2016-08-02 22:30
Great relevance bro Very smart favela boy
2016-08-02 22:32
Yeah, I know it's relevant, I'm happy that we can agree on that, I guess that makes you a smart person too
2016-08-02 22:39
gtfo hypocrite. "hey, let me be a lazy prick and not actually get any work done on my job because I know the boss will just fire someone else"
2016-08-03 04:09
You actually are a moron I never said that this wild card system is good, but if we're voting for the best team then VP is the most qualified
2016-08-03 05:08
Europe: ENCE and NA: TSM
2016-08-02 19:56
BTW you poles shouldn't vote for VP, they may be top 2 on LAN but they are barely even top 15 online... and Brazilians please, jut please don't vote for Luminosity, they lost to the shittiest NA team.
2016-08-02 19:58
haha GODSENT? ENCE? it's a joke
2016-08-02 19:59
#254
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Spain Alser 
Voted GODSENT and TSM. VP were given so many chances. First they go 4-18 in the league and were going to be instantly relegated. Then ESL changes the rules so that they play a relegation match vs PENTA and VP also lose that. Then ESL changes the rules fucking again to give VP a third chance in a popularity contest FFS.
2016-08-02 20:03
Even ENCE deserves more that spot than fucking GODSENT lmao
2016-08-02 23:12
seriously, how the fuck is this even fair?
2016-08-03 04:07
can we please just vote in echo fox and ence for the lulz
2016-08-02 20:03
#257
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Norway neveredgy69 
should be easy for lumi xD
2016-08-02 20:05
#259
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Liechtenstein Hidolf_Atler 
ENCE
2016-08-02 20:06
esl desperate to have vp back...
2016-08-02 20:08
vote Favelanosity Monkeyming
2016-08-02 20:09
#268
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Turkey powergs 
Im happy for Vp but at the same time this is unfair for cs scene but anyway lets go VPKURWAA
2016-08-02 20:18
I'm going for VP and LG.
2016-08-02 20:21
Why VP? They lost to PENTA LUL
2016-08-02 20:32
+1 PENTA is total dogshit team still dont know how VP could lose to them LMAO
2016-08-03 00:04
I think Gambit deserves it, and TSM deserves it.
2016-08-02 20:32
+1 I agree with both choices. Don't mind GODAENT or EF either though.
2016-08-02 22:41
Yeah I wouldn't mind if Godsent or EF got it either. But would definently like to see these 4 teams in regulation matches.
2016-08-03 03:44
Unfortunately though everyone will probably vote for VP, and all of the brazillians will vote for luminocity. Really don't want to see either of these teams get it.
2016-08-03 03:48
#274
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Brazil n1elsen 
EZ 4 ENCE and LG
2016-08-02 20:33
dont vote for vp ffs
2016-08-02 20:36
pasha has near 800k facebook fans, he will made post BOOOOM! +vp
2016-08-02 20:50
#279
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Hungary lemusz 
voted vp + echo fox
2016-08-02 20:47
VOTED: EZ 4 ENCE & LG I am afraid though that swedistanians and toilet cleaners are going to vote their teams.
2016-08-02 20:51
echofox and gambit
2016-08-02 20:56
ENCE x VP LG x TSM Ez ENCE and LG
2016-08-02 21:13
ence vp echo fox tsm
2016-08-02 21:14
#286
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Finland f0pZ 
EZ ENCE
2016-08-02 21:22
obv VP
2016-08-02 21:24
i like VP,but they should not get a invite. They play the last esea season and they got last place,they should play 1 year in premier.To me this is cheat competition..
2016-08-02 21:48
VP for EU and Echo fox for NA
2016-08-02 21:44
#294
hippien | 
New Zealand TEEZY 
EVERYONE VOTE FOR ENCE!
2016-08-02 21:47
LG and VP cancer .......
2016-08-02 21:48
US Want: EchoFox & TSM Teams Actually Going: TSM and EchoFox/TK EU Want: VP and Godsent Teams Actually Going: VP/unless ENCE fukbois take over and Gambit
2016-08-02 21:49
#297
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Finland Jonzu95 
#VoteForENCE
2016-08-02 21:58
Ence does not deserve that spot but hltv troll army is voting them. I go with godsent.
2016-08-02 22:14
ESL JOKE #voteforENCE
2016-08-02 22:16
EZ FOR ENCE EZ FOR KALIBER
2016-08-02 22:30
it was obvious vp will play again in esl pro lol
2016-08-02 22:38
#316
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United States phuckily 
are immortals in esl pl?
2016-08-02 23:11
TSM deserve it more than Luminosity
2016-08-02 23:38
Lol VP Announce that they will not attend ESL Premier League and whipsy-woop there is a community vote for the last 2 spots?? WTF? Has it always been like this?
2016-08-02 23:50
nope it changed right after VP said they'll not play in Premier.
2016-08-03 00:20
not right after i suppose, but are you trolling or not? I don't know this
2016-08-03 02:16
Well not literally seconds after but like few weeks or so. ESL cant miss two seasons without having top Polish team in EPL.
2016-08-03 12:16
THIS MAKES ME PUKE WTF?!?! So they literally change the way because VP said that they will not attend Premier so they feel like they would lose a top org?? WTF?!?!?!? IT SHOULDNT EVEN BE A VOTE TO BEGIN WITH, IT SHOULD BE SIMPLE BO3's ALL THE WAY. SO FUCKING HARD to understand that.
2016-08-03 12:20
There was 1 last spot up for grabs and ESL decides whom to invite,and instead of inviting VP back,they decided to do this ? Atleast the others have a chance now?
2016-08-03 12:47
Expected from <3 NEO but usually the winner of Premier gets their spot at Pro League, now ESL changed it just because VP was not in Premier and had no chance to go through from there. The winner of Premier should go on BO3 against the last of EPL in a relegation match (that is what happened before and Virtus.Premier lost the relegation match against PENTA) And then the wild card spot should be filled by playing not by a fucking popularity contest. It's obvious there is no chance for teams likes of ENCE to get in EPL (not that they belong to there, they suck LOL) because Finlands CS:GO scene is like 10k people and like 1k of them even knows what ESL is. And they are supposed to have a popularity contest over teams from Poland / Sweden / Russia. Yeah, no way.
2016-08-03 14:47
yup. but now VP only has to win 1 BO3 and they are known to be bad onliners :>
2016-08-03 14:43
ESEA pulled some similar bullshit with another Premier team a season or two ago, where they didn't allow them into the top division, even though they won Premier. reason: "best interests"
2016-08-03 04:06
It was that bulgarian team and dr3am3r had a VAC ban history. They had been informed that they cannot qualify to ESL pro league even if they win.
2016-08-03 14:11
no, it was an NA team. denial, I think. they wanted to keep a more known org in ESEA's top division.
2016-08-04 01:23
#320
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Brazil mrschagas 
ENCE X VP LG X TSM EZ 4 ENCE LG WIN, LGLOYAL
2016-08-02 23:58
LG are shit.. They lost to team rival in a bo3
2016-08-03 01:50
#323
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Retarded, VP doesn't deserve to play in this league. They are good now but they sucked hard in the previous season. This has no sense at all.
2016-08-03 00:04
#351
BnTeT | 
Poland B4R73K 
Nice logic, online leagues hardly account for how 'good' a team is, it's fucking online ffs, use your brain
2016-08-03 03:12
Then why should they get invited back to an online league?
2016-08-03 05:43
VOTE 4 ENCE
2016-08-03 00:13
ez 4 ence EleGiggle
2016-08-03 00:20
#326
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Macau Bent0 
Not fair for others team if VP got the wild card :/ easyforence&baegares
2016-08-03 00:20
So when i go 0-20 i drop out of premier to main but if vp lose 20 in a rowit means nothing? Are you fucking serious? A democracy? There will never be any new teams...the league is the qualifier. Not after the league is finished.
2016-08-03 00:35
I love VP but they don't even deserve it, my votes goes to ENCE
2016-08-03 00:36
vote for GODSENT and tK for daddy Odeag KKona
2016-08-03 01:19
NA Echo fox vs TSM , TSM in esl pro league,EU VP vs GODSENT= VP in esl pro league , wp
2016-08-03 01:53
#343
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Germany elseen 
Pls don't vote for VP, they had their chance and lost it against Penta. They don't deserve it
2016-08-03 01:56
#349
fer | 
Brazil rAphaxd 
i agree :)
2016-08-03 02:56
Who is on luminosity new team?
2016-08-03 02:11
tier 5 favellas, not worth voting
2016-08-03 02:53
#345
Kaze | 
Malaysia Swattax 
EZ ENCE
2016-08-03 02:15
#348
fer | 
Brazil rAphaxd 
EZ 4 GODSENT
2016-08-03 02:55
#350
Australia Ixz 
S G A R E S B O Y S
2016-08-03 03:10
Hence boys let's make it happen
2016-08-03 03:37
#355
cyx | 
Chile L1PPE 
EZ GODSENT and EchoFox
2016-08-03 03:55
#356
cyx | 
Chile L1PPE 
VP dont deserve that wildcard
2016-08-03 03:56
this is so retarded, lmfao. how is this good for the game at all? seriously, what the fuck is this, source?
2016-08-03 04:05
#361
aurora | 
Australia omag 
If LG get the wildcard, i'm going to kill myself
2016-08-03 04:11
Lol, so it's okay for a team to get demoted because they pretty much sucked every single game and then they will be handed a spot again? I just hope VPremier loses the bo3 again, lol.
2016-08-03 04:45
#365
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El Salvador belaC 
guys pls, the VP fukkbois dont deserve it, they got shit on by penta to get relegated, vote for mr allu and ence
2016-08-03 05:25
Yeah that's the only reason I didn't vote for VP, they lost fair and square and deserve to be in premier for a season :P
2016-08-03 09:43
gogo vote Luminosity plssssssssss
2016-08-03 06:20
#374
gas | 
Korea kaiske10v 
E N C E N C E
2016-08-03 07:29
#376
solo | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
gambit and lg =)
2016-08-03 08:44
I did VP because they are one of the original best teams and Echofox because it has all my favorite players =)
2016-08-03 08:46
Voted for Ence & LG!
2016-08-03 10:56
Its ESL, expected. And they are trying to create monopoly
2016-08-03 11:09
VP obviously best team but they don't deserve an invite what the fuck, that's like two football teams being relegated and the league being "oh my bad dawg, lets have a fan vote to determine which team stays in". Fuck that, Virtus Premier take that loss.
2016-08-03 11:56
EZ VOTE 4 ENCE
2016-08-03 12:33
1 team aint getting the wildcard,you gotta play a bo3 for it. Why are people saying VP dont deserve the wildcard,they have to play and win the bo3 to get it lol.
2016-08-03 12:44
Ence xD
2016-08-03 13:19
errr Epsilon? only team everyone wants to see.
2016-08-03 13:42
Could ESL favorite VP a little bit more? First VP loses almost every game in Pro league. Second ESL changes the pro league rules to support 14 teams so VP gets a chance to qualify straight away. (they lose miserably to PENTA) And this as a third... Lets take 3 small EU orgs and put them againts one of the biggest. That sounds so damn fair.
2016-08-03 14:10
Lose 95% of all matches Supposed to be relegated to premier Gets a second chance in a BO3 against Penta shitsports Loses the BO3 GETS A THIRD CHANCE BY A FANVOTING Inb4 they lose the BO3 against the team the fans voted to play Inb4 they get a direct invite..
2016-08-03 14:42
The worst thing about this is that VP as a team is getting hate for this, sure they had their chances and all but its imo mainly ESL that doesnt want VP go coz of viewer numbers and promotion of having VP there. But hey lets be a cancerous community and blame the players.
2016-08-03 14:42
That is a side-effect because ESL is playing favourites and recreates the rules at their whim.
2016-08-03 14:44
Not really the players fault though, people shouldnt be hating on VP no matter of ESL decision. I dont like what happend but lets be real, nothing in the world is ever fair, and rest of the EU teams on that list deserve the spot as much as VP, meaning they just dont.
2016-08-03 14:46
Yup, its not the players fault. Anyone with some brain capacity should realise that.
2016-08-03 14:48
And then you check the comments on reddit and this thread and see all the hate, I guess I havent been reading hltv too much lately and forgot how retarded people on this website are ^^
2016-08-03 14:52
well as I said, you need brain capacity :>
2016-08-03 14:53
ENCE FTW
2016-08-03 14:55
#403
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France StickyRice 
Don't be stupid (sorry for people voting for another team) guys, vote for TSM. They are clearly the stronger team (in those 4) and are a Tier 2/3 team when playing to their best. Basically number 3 USA after Liquid and C9 (and few weeks ago they were better than C9 and were top 2). They might still be top 2 USA because C9 almost beating NaVi doesn't prove anything (NaVi plays bad right now) and C9 beating TSM was more of a TSM fail than a great performance by C9 (and it was a random online tourney).
2016-08-03 18:04
NA EU but no asia?
2016-08-03 18:08
#406
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Spain Brejo 
ESL seems worse than match fixers, this is fucking annoying...
2016-08-03 19:55
results´?
2016-08-08 22:28
Anny info about results?
2016-08-09 16:51
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