draken: doplan had an offer from NiP

After Epsilon's heartbreaking loss to GODSENT in the upper bracket semi-final of the PGL EU Minor, we talked to William "draken" Sundin to hear his thoughts on the match and his teammates.

The Swedish matchup went the whole distance, with a 16-14 on Train followed by overtimes on Cache and Mirage. With the more experienced team in GODSENT winning the series in the end, Epsilon find themselves in the lower bracket of the EU Minor playoffs after winning their group over ENCE and Heroic.

With that in mind, we talked with William "draken" Sundin to hear his thoughts on the departure of Joakim "disco doplan" Gidetun to fnatic and how that affected their recent form.

Coming into the event, you had a last-minute roster move, we can talk about how that went down first. disco doplan was actually here (in Bucharest) but he left and you picked up kalle. Can you talk me through the process of letting him go and getting a replacement?

We let doplan go because fnatic wanted him and he got a spot directly at the Major. So he felt it as well, of course he should take this opportunity, fnatic has been the best team in the world for a long time. Not now though, but they have that established era so to speak.

When at first fnatic wanted doplan some players knew it, other players didn’t know, so it was a bit shaky. We had the DreamHack qualifier versus Kinguin, we lost in two overtimes there as well. It was a bit shaky in the team and we felt that something was wrong. Then we just said - of course you should go, and we let him go.

It was six hours before our flight here, we called kalle like “dude can you come play?” and he showed up the night before. We haven’t practiced once with him. So it was a big step for us to come first in the group but we will see what happens.

So the move from fnatic was known for some time? Did that influence ESWC? Was it known before that?

It was known before that, as you know, doplan had an offer from NiP as well, and since then he got let down by them. At ESWC, something was wrong and fnatic were not sure really - so the deal was on and off. So doplan was really bad mentally - he was let down first by NiP, then fnatic.

So it was really shaky at ESWC and then the DreamHack Winter qualifier before we came here. For us as well, we thought it would be better to bring in a guy that really wants to [be here]. We had two options: we play with doplan here and he leaves after the Minor or we bring in a new guy that really wants to [be here]. Doplan is still a very good friend of us and he is a really, really good player - and we thought we should bring in something fresh and hungry that we could work on after the Minor as well.

So how did you decide on kalle and how did you adapt to playing with him in the team?

We decided, as I said, like six hours before the flight. I said like: “Guys, shouldn’t we just call kalle?”. There is no one else in the Swedish scene I think, and he is Norwegian but I don’t think there is anyone in Norway either who could replace doplan. But kalle - he has experience, he played with BARBARR in 1.6 as well, he is a nice guy we all know but me, REZ or freddieb have never played with him.


Epsilon decided to let disco doplan go after some shaky performances

Did he just go into disco doplan’s roles and positions or?

It was a bit of both. On some maps he took doplan’s spots but on others we adapted a bit. But he works very well with the team.

Going on to this tournament, you won your group, did you actually expect you would do so well in the groups?

We still felt comfortable even though doplan got picked up because he wasn’t really the star player anymore, he was of course a big impact player but me, freddieb, REZ, BARBARR - everyone - we knew that we are better than every team here. We shoot harder, we have better aim, skillwise, than any team here. It’s just that they have some more experience and are more established team-wise.

Talking about experience, today you were going up against GODSENT - they are not actually that much older than you, but they have a lot more experience - triple major winners - was that a factor in the game? Not saying you were afraid, but have you overestimated them? 

I don’t think so. We never beat them before, and now we managed to do it. We just thought on Mirage that we had the game. We had the 13-2 lead and then we just lost it. It wasn’t really the players of GODSENT it was more the score. You know, when you have a 13-2 and the score goes to 13-8, 13-9, they get 10 rounds in a row and then we get one, they get one and then we are money screwed. I wouldn’t say we were afraid of them but we know they are really good players.

You are still in the lower bracket now so the next match is either against Space Soldiers or HellRaisers. Any thoughts on the opposition, who would you rather play?

I don’t think it will matter who we will play, I think we will 2-0 both of them, maybe 2-1 but I’m really confident we will still go to the next step.

Professeur writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter.

Coming into the event, you had a last-minute roster move, we can talk about how that went down. disco doplan was actually here (in Bucharest) but he left and you picked up kalle. Can you talk me through the process of letting him go and getting a replacement?

We let doplan go because fnatic wanted him and he got a spot directly to the Major. So he felt it as well, of course he should take this opportunity, fnatic has been the best team in the world for a long time. Not now though, but they have that established era so to speak.

When at first fnatic wanted doplan some players knew it, other players didn’t know, so it was a bit shaky. We had the DreamHack qualifier versus Kinguin, we lost in two overtimes there as well. It was a bit shaky in the team and we felt that something was wrong. Then we just said of course you should go and we let him go. It was six hours before our flight here, we called kalle like “dude can you come play?” and he showed up the night before. We haven’t practiced once with him. So it was a big step for us to come first in the group but we will see what happens.

So the move from fnatic was known for some time? Did that influence ESWC? Was it known before that?

It was known before that, as you know, doplan had an offer from NiP as well, and since then he got let down by them. At ESWC, something was wrong and fnatic were not sure really - so the deal was on and off. So doplan was really bad mentally - he was let down first by NiP, then fnatic. So it was really shaky at ESWC and then the DreamHack Winter qualifier before we came here. For us as well we thought it would be better to bring in a guy that really wants to (be here). We had two options: we play with doplan here and he leaves after the minor or we bring in a new guy that really wants to (be here). Doplan is still a very good friend of us and he is a really, really good player and we thought we should bring in something fresh and hungry that we could work on after the Minor as well.

So how did you decide on kalle and how did you adapt to playing with him in the team?

We decided, as I said, like six hours before the flight. I said like: “Guys, shouldn’t we just call kalle?”. There is no one else in the Swedish scene I think, and he is Norwegian but I don’t think there is anyone in Norway either who could replace doplan. But kalle - he has experience, he played with BARBARR in 1.6 as well, he is a nice guy we know him as well but me, REZ or freddieb have never played with him.

Did he just go into disco doplan’s roles and positions or?

It was a bit of both. On some maps he took doplan’s spots but on others we adapted a bit. But he works very well with the team.

Going on to this tournament, you won your group, did you actually expect you would do so well in the groups?

We still felt comfortable even though doplan got picked up because he wasn’t really the star player anymore, he was of course a big impact player but me, freddieb, REZ, BARBARR - everyone, we knew that we are better than every team here. We shoot harder, we have better aim, skillwise, than any team here. It’s just that they have some more experience and are more established team-wise.

Talking about experience, today you were going up against GODSENT - they are not actually that much older than you, but they have a lot more experience - triple major winners - was that a factor in the game? Not saying you were afraid, but just overestimated them?

I don’t think so. We never beat them before, and now we managed to do it. We just thought on Mirage that we had the game. We had the 13-2 lead and then we just lost it. It wasn’t really the players of GODSENT it was more the score. You know, when you have a 13-2 and the score goes to 13-8, 13-9, they get 10 rounds in a row, we get one, they get one and then we are money screwed. I wouldn’t say we were afraid of them but they we know they are really good players.

You are still in the lower bracket now so the next match is either SpaceSoldiers or HellRaisers. Any thoughts on the opposition, who would you rather play?

I don’t think it will matter who we will play, I think we will 2-0 both of them, maybe 2-1 but I’m really confident we will still go to the next step.

Sweden William 'draken' Sundin
William 'draken' Sundin
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
977
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.10
Sweden Joakim 'disco doplan' Gidetun
Joakim 'disco doplan' Gidetun
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
913
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.13
#1
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Mexico Pickle_Rick 
EZ 4 disco delpan :D And ez 1st <3 ;D
2016-11-05 16:18
Jonathan E Is coming for you kho :D
2016-11-05 16:18
#54
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Norway RiTZCrackers 
same for you. "ez" #7
2016-11-05 16:28
ahahah jonathan E just clicked on his profile , RIP
2016-11-05 16:29
Anyone else thought the same? Draken wants to say we were money fucked but then thinks w8 that's apex's line. So instead says we were money screwed.
2016-11-05 16:46
Lol
2016-11-06 07:07
ez bro
2016-11-05 16:21
#48
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France Revitalize 
ez 4 algeria
2016-11-05 16:26
RIP his coming for you , he just checked your profile lmao
2016-11-05 16:30
#59
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Mexico Pickle_Rick 
hahaha :D rip me
2016-11-05 16:30
disco disco disco doplan
2016-11-07 12:47
#2
tarik | 
Yugoslavia bleaq 
fak
2016-11-05 16:18
ez
2016-11-05 16:17
#4
Finland MIZEE 
cxv
2016-11-05 16:17
#5
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Brazil mth^ 
:D
2016-11-05 16:18
1
2016-11-05 16:17
ez
2016-11-05 16:17
expected
2016-11-05 16:18
#9
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Sweden Holsik83 
1
2016-11-05 16:17
#10
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Denmark beastd 
Expected
2016-11-05 16:18
#11
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Netherlands Obiht 
jammer dit
2016-11-05 16:18
drakeN jealous
2016-11-05 16:19
#61
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
ofc he's jealous he wants invite from top team for ages and no1 picks him probably cuz NiP doesnt think they will get friendshipmagic with him :D
2016-11-05 16:32
He would fit in nip really well tho
2016-11-05 17:19
#95
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
maybe you are right but for some reason it looks like not too friendly person (i might be wrong) edt. actually -pyth-friburger +freddieb+draken/rez might work
2016-11-05 17:40
#101
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Latvia cr00ked 
after 1 or 2 years
2016-11-05 18:37
wat
2016-11-05 16:17
#14
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Denmark LE0Nl 
123
2016-11-05 16:17
not first
2016-11-05 16:18
QHar5
2016-11-05 16:18
#17
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Sweden Froxez 
s
2016-11-05 16:18
y didnt he take it
2016-11-05 16:18
Wtf
2016-11-05 16:18
#21
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Norway Axious 
rip
2016-11-05 16:18
It was six hours before our flight here, we called kalle like “dude can you come play?” rofl :D
2016-11-05 16:20
Atleast he is being honest xD haha
2016-11-05 22:24
#23
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Netherlands DoIIar 
1
2016-11-05 16:18
g
2016-11-05 16:18
#25
Coffee | 
Netherlands p2dr 
201587st
2016-11-05 16:18
NiP is too good for him.
2016-11-05 16:19
Hahaha NiP rekt
2016-11-05 16:18
#90
World hkzz 
Did you even read the text retard? NiP forfeited the offer
2016-11-05 17:29
Rekt as in exposed for trying to sugar coat pyth' removal, nt tho
2016-11-05 17:33
#28
Dosia | 
Brazil Feader 
Lul
2016-11-05 16:18
fnatic better (c) doplan
2016-11-05 16:18
#32
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Brazil mth^ 
stich, u said u weren't attending events for now you lied to me :(
2016-11-05 16:20
lol :))))
2016-11-05 16:22
#42
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Brazil mth^ 
LUL
2016-11-05 16:23
ProfesseuR <3 <3
2016-11-07 09:36
Which means NiP is looking for a permanent new player, right? Maikelele to stay?
2016-11-05 16:20
#62
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Sweden Div-\ 
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing...And to be fair they look promising with Maikelele now.
2016-11-05 16:32
Considering that they made Doplan an offer, i think we can atleast confirm that NiP has been looking for a replacement for either pyth or Friberg.. If this was last week, i would put Olof as an alternative, but unfortunately with how fnatic is now looking, that is not happening.. so maikelele is highly likely.
2016-11-05 16:43
#76
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Sweden Div-\ 
Maybe it depends on Nip's money, Olof should have a high buyout for that matter, while Maikelele is a free agent... I don't really know tbh, just making assumptions, but yes I agree that Maikel is highly likely.
2016-11-05 16:47
Friberg GOD
2016-11-05 16:20
NiP once again retarded.
2016-11-05 16:21
money first
2016-11-05 16:21
I think we will 2-0 both of them, maybe 2-1
2016-11-05 16:22
And I think he has a fair point. Look at the Godsent game, Epsilon looks insane. They just have issues with the closing stages of a game.
2016-11-05 16:28
#68
CIS Ume 
+1 Draken got the right mentality.
2016-11-05 16:36
"Epsilon decided to let disco doplan go after som shaky performances" its under the pic,please fix :) edit - fixed ty
2016-11-05 16:28
#41
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Singapore Guard_CSGO 
lmao overconfidence
2016-11-05 16:22
#43
Poland MaYy 
epsilon very talented team. Can compare with LGB 2014 [olof, dennis, twist, cype, krimz]
2016-11-05 16:23
Or fnatic 2013
2016-11-05 16:29
this made me laugh
2016-11-05 16:30
because?
2016-11-05 22:27
#44
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France t3r4byt3 
fookin NiP back at it again, turning down the hottest talent in Sweden
2016-11-05 16:23
#49
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Vietnam yolesnoobs 
im actually relieved doplan isn't joining nip lmao
2016-11-05 16:26
#60
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France t3r4byt3 
would've been nice to see something like GeT_RiGhT, f0rest, Xizt, disco doplan and Maikelele tbh
2016-11-05 16:30
#66
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Israel ZiinTotH 
+1 And nip needs to stop looking down the road like they are donkeys, unable to look into any other direction - it's so fucking clear who needs to go from their team and time after time they make the stupid moves... They are a long-lost cause.
2016-11-05 16:35
They won a tournament a month or 2 ago, if they want to stick to their guns with the 4-core, why is that even a problem ? fucking g2 is still playing with WhiffZz and he is 10x the burden than Friberg, fuck even Friberg have started to have an impact to their gameplan. Sometimes how much we want the dream lineup of respective teams, it isnt just sign him and him cuz blabla.
2016-11-05 19:35
#45
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
&#1045;
2016-11-05 16:23
Wait what? Is this confirmed proof now that NiP is trying to replace Pyth? If they don't pick up Maikelele as a permanent this will make no sense.
2016-11-05 16:25
I think the offer from NiP was the same as for Maikelele - until pyth gets better. I think he just worded it poorly.
2016-11-05 16:25
I love their confidence. Hoping for big things, these guys could really break into a solid spot in the international scene.
2016-11-05 16:26
#51
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Spain Alser 
so pyth is kicked gg
2016-11-05 16:26
rip pyth
2016-11-05 16:28
#63
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Slovakia Eff3ctSK 
disco doplan is still best name :D
2016-11-05 16:32
Now it's confirmed, Maikelele gonna join NiP. NOICE
2016-11-05 16:33
NiP wanted doplan? does this mean NiP may want Maikelele?
2016-11-05 16:35
pyth gonna be replaced confirmed
2016-11-05 16:37
#70
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Argentina EnvyJ 
shaky
2016-11-05 16:38
#71
France Dov 
there is probably something going on with pyth, no info nothing for months, he can't still be injured ... there was a stream where i saw him on lan doing 1v1
2016-11-05 16:38
s1mple reject NiP doplan reject NiP ... where are you now NiP fangays?
2016-11-05 16:40
#79
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Belarus ripnickname 
nip rejected doplan u meant
2016-11-05 16:55
+ twist reject nip
2016-11-05 16:57
s1mple? :D LMFAO are you dumb?
2016-11-05 17:44
special for you toxic nip fangay twitter.com/s1mpleO/status/7703260591538..
2016-11-05 18:56
twitter.com/nipgaming/status/65898485046.. NiP immediately responded that it was just bait from this ruskie (web.archive.org/web/20160317184748/nip.g..)
2016-11-05 19:32
27 de out de 2015 fu*k off toxic kid!!!
2016-11-05 19:34
cg, u won biggest hltv autist awards, gg
2016-11-05 19:42
ofc I won because I have a reason fuking idiot no arguments was expected from you, cancer of HLTV
2016-11-05 19:48
no, you are just dumb autistic fox fangay. it was just bait from s1mple, but s1mple is as bad in baiting as you are
2016-11-05 20:04
fox fangay? lock at my name and shut up kid u is cancer of HLTV it was just bait from s1mple? ARGUMENTS pls, ARGUMENTS!!! fu*ing kids
2016-11-05 20:10
There is no one else in the Swedish scene I think :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
2016-11-05 16:42
them but they we know they are really good players. new meme XDD
2016-11-05 16:54
Typical Nip move..fkin idiots
2016-11-05 16:55
+1111111111111
2016-11-05 19:36
"We shoot harder" nt, haxor...
2016-11-05 16:59
Cant imagine Draken being populaire after speaking about other teams offers and dicussions so openly. Kinda stupid tbh, or hes just envy for not being offered anything himself.
2016-11-05 17:00
#92
Spain SR4 
He will also get an offer soon so np
2016-11-05 17:33
#84
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
"It was six hours before our flight here, we called kalle like “dude can you come play?” and he showed up the night before." i lol'd haha :D:D
2016-11-05 17:05
it means - pyth + maikelele now i'm sure
2016-11-05 17:07
i can't understand hatin' on Pyth. he was one of the best NiP players by his performances.
2016-11-05 17:13
tak vsegda na novom igroke bolshe davleniya
2016-11-05 17:14
ta da
2016-11-05 17:18
Draken to NIP?
2016-11-05 17:36
#94
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Thailand hahahoha 
from the interview u can tell he is an arrogant guy :>
2016-11-05 17:36
it's funny, because it fits his name and look^^ kinda like a movie character
2016-11-05 17:45
Draken, man keep business negotiations private.
2016-11-05 17:53
he wasn’t really the star player anymore fnatic guys seem like looking only on K-D and rating, for me it still remains unclear why they picked disco botplan... He's decent, but not any close to olofm or dennis or even twist.
2016-11-05 18:04
#108
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Poland Homosexual 
as if there's a player on the level of olof, dennis and twist available?? disco doplan is an upgrade over wenton at least
2016-11-05 19:40
disco doplan is an upgrade over wenton at least They should've tried to make flusha come back, or wait till NiP decides about pyth-Maikelele thing and pick who will be teamless out of the two.
2016-11-05 19:41
#100
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China LKmonstA 
rip nip
2016-11-05 18:25
Sad that they lost mirage.. Go draken, lets make the major quals. beat them 2:0
2016-11-05 18:37
ebin xD
2016-11-05 19:49
I don't understand why anyone wants to be nip's 5th player, AKA the first player to get kicked the next time friberg underperforms.
2016-11-05 20:26
draken to nip pls
2016-11-06 01:19
Draken to NiP
2016-11-06 02:21
Must've been brutal getting offers from 2 huge organisations and having things fall through. Poor guy.
2016-11-06 07:11
Overconfidence might screw them over and then these last lines will be so arrogant :)
2016-11-06 10:38
#123
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Singapore Guard_CSGO 
Haha they actually 2-0ed them. Pretty sure it was too much to say that if they were against hr though
2016-11-06 11:37
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