Swiss format at ELEAGUE Major

BenjaCS
December 7th, 2016 18:00

The Swiss format will be used at the ELEAGUE Major Main Qualifier and in the group stage at the ELEAGUE Major.

A tweet by the VP of ELEAGUE revealed that the Swiss format will be used in the ELEAGUE Major Main Qualifier taking place from December 15-18. ELEAGUE Major's group stage will also use the same format in the group stage, which will be the first time that it is used at a Major.

The Swiss-system was used in the previous Major Main Qualifier which took place in Katowice before ESL One Cologne. ELEAGUE Major Main Qualifier, featuring sixteen teams, will continue using the same format.


ELEAGUE Major will take place in January

At the ESL One Cologne Main Qualifier, all of the sixteen competing teams were in the same group and after the predetermined initial matches, teams with the same record who have not played against one another squared off. Three losses resulted in elimination and three wins guaranteed a spot at the Major.

Whether the ELEAGUE Major itself will feature a sixteen-team or two eight-team Swiss groups is not yet clear but we will update you when the information becomes available.

BenjaCS is a staff writer at HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter.

not good still ez for fnatic disco doplan
2016-12-07 18:00
#20
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Germany GeoRg___J 
With that system ppl gonna Neutralized each other
2016-12-07 18:02
Swiss is so bad :/ why would EL ever want to use it? GSL is fine.
2016-12-07 20:14
For qualifiers it is way better, for the major itself I am bit uncertain
2016-12-07 21:04
Much much better than groups of death like the last major where you had 4 teams who should make it to playoffs in one group.
2016-12-07 22:56
Yeah I guess I agree, it is an entertaining format as well
2016-12-08 00:46
new gqmbling sute: csgocasino.net code for 5$: godmoe
2016-12-09 13:11
definitely, this system is way better than any other shit we have had so far. No group of death, no easy groups as well, --> best teams overall should go trough. 1 or 2 lucky map wins wont get you anywhere.
2016-12-08 09:24
Its worse cause you get shit where all you have to do is win BO1s. Also it doesn't help group of death situations at all, in fact it worsens it as it benefits teams that get off the poor starts as they face the worst teams while the teams that get off to the best starts face the best teams. Thus you get situations like in ESL NY where NaVi faced every single playoff team and Liquid where they got to face G2 and Fnatic twice (or Optic who got to face Astralis, Fnatic, and G2, the 3 worst teams). You also get situations where Optic can get in instead of VP cause of 1 good map. The problem with GSL is the seeding, the problem with Swiss is that it is just a flawed system.
2016-12-08 22:45
swiss format best format
2016-12-07 18:00
You are so fast.. You were even the first in the first to 700k userid race.. You are a God, no one can beat you <3 You rekted gúnt with ease
2016-12-07 18:01
thanks my friend
2016-12-07 18:02
#45
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Kazakhstan Bombardian 
Bulgarian internet best internet
2016-12-07 18:05
yes
2016-12-07 18:11
Any userid over 100,000 is noob
2016-12-08 05:42
interesting
2016-12-07 18:01
Swiss format is the optimal format imo ez for fnatic +1
2016-12-07 18:01
u da best my friend
2016-12-07 18:04
-1
2016-12-07 18:07
Swedan best an
2016-12-07 19:08
very nice! niilo really like swiss ice scream, so the format is good as well!
2016-12-07 18:00
#135
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Albania LDK_Hltv 
Lol
2016-12-07 20:08
#165
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Sweden Alkob 
paska haisee ja banjot soi
2016-12-07 21:59
+1
2016-12-08 08:36
kyl
2016-12-08 19:09
I like this format!
2016-12-07 18:00
VERY NIKE!
2016-12-07 18:00
#5
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Finland coolbeans 
best format out there
2016-12-07 18:01
True There will be no group of death this time
2016-12-07 20:40
#6
Sweden cute! 
6rd
2016-12-07 18:00
ez immortals
2016-12-07 18:00
#8
Czech Republic Tregi 
gg
2016-12-07 18:00
NICE
2016-12-07 18:00
+1
2016-12-07 19:09
great!
2016-12-07 18:00
xaxa
2016-12-07 18:00
AFD 2017
2016-12-07 18:01
nice
2016-12-07 18:00
#13
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Poland mamba99999 
:O
2016-12-07 18:00
#14
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France NVR67 
frist xd
2016-12-07 18:00
#15
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Russia r4jkkYNWA 
OMG
2016-12-07 18:00
#16
MiKe | 
Canada Zoey 
wtf
2016-12-07 18:00
#17
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Finland Paazzu 
Nice1
2016-12-07 18:00
SOOOOO HARDDDD SYSTEMMMM
2016-12-07 18:00
k
2016-12-07 18:00
#21
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France BigBlarg 
i like swiss
2016-12-07 18:00
Swiss format in major itself is weird to be honest
2016-12-07 18:00
#23
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France TheKurnaz 
Finally a good format at major !!
2016-12-07 18:00
I like this one. Less luck involved.
2016-12-07 18:01
#30
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Poland Astoner55 
Where will it be played? Katowice again???
2016-12-07 18:01
#53
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United States Espurritos 
Atlanta
2016-12-07 18:11
lol
2016-12-07 18:34
#115
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Poland Astoner55 
I mean qualifiers :<
2016-12-07 19:14
Atlanta
2016-12-07 19:39
#129
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Poland Astoner55 
Both qualifiers and major in the same place? Damn son that's pretty BORING
2016-12-07 19:49
The qualifiers prob is at the EL studio and the major in the other venue.
2016-12-07 19:50
#31
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France kennySsSsS 
WOW
2016-12-07 18:01
#33
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Sweden Froxez 
first hey midkits
2016-12-07 18:01
That sucks... Any format where someone goes straight from groups to semis is dumb.
2016-12-07 18:02
+1
2016-12-07 19:02
#187
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Albania Heavon 
^This
2016-12-08 10:58
#190
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
That's not how Swiss system works though, every team that gets through groups go to quarters
2016-12-08 15:37
Yeah, I realized it was different because there are 16 teams and not 8.
2016-12-09 00:58
lul
2016-12-07 18:03
Ez for penta ez for SOLEEEK
2016-12-07 18:03
#39
NiKo | 
Bangladesh XalYWero 
ez g2 win next major
2016-12-07 18:03
#71
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Canada Jesse_Pinkman 
+1
2016-12-07 18:21
not sure if good or bad
2016-12-07 18:03
#41
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Brazil vass28 
ez for SK
2016-12-07 18:04
NICE
2016-12-07 18:04
massive news, finally valve are open to change in the way majors are ran
2016-12-07 18:05
#46
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World KAPPAtych 
rip Na'Vi - 1-3 (2-3) xD
2016-12-07 18:05
Nice format.
2016-12-07 18:05
#49
LeX | 
Russia mddn 
n1
2016-12-07 18:08
#50
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France kennySsSsS 
i still dont understand this format =(
2016-12-07 18:08
It's like triple elimination bracket :D
2016-12-07 18:12
ez, you win 3 matches you are qualified, if you lose 3 matches you are eliminated first round random winners get 1-0 losers get 0-1 second round all winners (1-0) from first round play against each other all losers (0-1) from first round play against each other after second round teams will get or 2-0 or 1-1 or 0-2 third round all teams with 2-0 play against each other for qualification match all 1-1 same (winners get 2-1, losers get 1-2) all teams with 0-2 play for elimination match fourth and fifth rounds same shit who win 3 matches qualifies, who lose 3 matches get their asses out of the tournament
2016-12-07 18:24
That explanation gave me an orgasm
2016-12-07 19:37
#173
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France kennySsSsS 
danke
2016-12-07 23:52
you play against teams with the same score as you. 3 wins means you move on to quarter finals. 3 losses means you are eliminated.
2016-12-07 23:49
Lol, why bad? Look back to last major group D . And format doesn't affect on result (Ez major for HLTV team)
2016-12-07 18:11
XD
2016-12-07 18:26
should be double elimination like dota ti
2016-12-07 18:11
+1. dota copied cod for it tho
2016-12-07 18:42
ez gambit xD 3-0
2016-12-07 18:13
i made this
2016-12-07 18:14
#64
fancy1 | 
Korea dafNaY 
lol
2016-12-07 18:17
tnx Mr. Swiss
2016-12-07 18:46
#137
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Albania LDK_Hltv 
Tnx Mr. Swiss
2016-12-07 20:11
#58
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
nice! good job ELEAGUE! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2016-12-07 18:14
#59
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Netherlands RobbieRotten_ 
ez for FaZe if they step up like in IEM Oakland in the groups ez semi for them :D
2016-12-07 18:14
this is retarded, what was wrong with the old gsl format? the only thing they had to fix was the seedings
2016-12-07 18:14
2x bo1 are random as fuck, in swiss format, u play at least 1 more matches, most likely 2-3 more bcuz even if u start bad by 0-2 or 1-2 ull get to play even teams to kind of fight yourself out of that hole while in gsl format ure fucked after like 0-1 start against NiP (for example) and being under pressure in another bo1 where u can already get eliminated.
2016-12-07 18:20
#78
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
The only thing they had to change was BO3 for both elimination and decider matches(winners/opening if possible).
2016-12-07 18:25
+1
2016-12-07 21:46
Seeding is kind of unreliable when teams like liquid and CLG can be top 2 for a week then complete dogshit for the rest of the year lol. Swiss format seeds itself where rounds should get harder and harder as it moves along
2016-12-07 23:51
I was talking about the seedings in major
2016-12-10 07:28
#61
Italy HACI 
Dont like this format when most teams are capeable of being major winners, you're essentially out in 3 bo1s instead of 1 bo1 and 1 bo3
2016-12-07 18:15
#138
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Albania LDK_Hltv 
+1
2016-12-07 20:11
SeemsGood
2016-12-07 18:15
#63
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Poland Spanksss 
NIIIIIIIICEEEE
2016-12-07 18:17
#65
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Canada DadaTOUKAY 
If you start the tournament slowly you're out ^^ I guess it will be a great battle !
2016-12-07 18:18
nice, bt 4-8 places will get a random chokes incoming
2016-12-07 18:20
#67
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Bulgaria vsk47 
Good for the qualifier I don't like it for the major...too complicated imo, the regular format for the majors was good enough.
2016-12-07 18:20
Hmm, intresting. This decrease from 101% to 99% sure Renegades will be at major! Also Godsent have bigger chances now. Rip CLG, Vega, Spirit, Tyloo, Mouz, HR and 2 more teams.
2016-12-07 18:20
#139
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Albania LDK_Hltv 
Username does not check out
2016-12-07 20:12
#148
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India StraightEdge 
Yep now gosent can ban ban nuke,cobble and overpass.Most games will either be dust 2 or cache for them
2016-12-07 20:41
Woooow
2016-12-07 18:20
#72
byali | 
Poland vezz. 
This is a shame, because as good as it is for qualifiers, I don't like it as a major group stage. This means you can be out of the major after 2-3 BO1's
2016-12-07 18:22
#87
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Finland Emvi 
better be out after 3 games than 2
2016-12-07 18:45
#73
Puls3 | 
World quen1 
not good for british player
2016-12-07 18:23
Very good actually g2's group stage curse might be lifed if double bo1 elim is gone
2016-12-07 18:24
noice
2016-12-07 18:24
#77
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Germany YNNS 
Qualifier ok But WHY THE MAJOR ?!!! It is ok like it is
2016-12-07 18:25
#97
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Poland sajlent 
it will prevent lower teams like mouz, FlipSid3 or Gambit from fluking their way into playoffs from 1st place in the group
2016-12-07 18:43
+1. they are great teams, but cmon...one group had teams ranked 9-12 at the time while another group had four top 5 ranked teams lol.
2016-12-07 23:52
#80
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France p2l 
groups will be less random, nice
2016-12-07 18:27
ez for c9 if auti stops using the g403 and goes back to the g pro
2016-12-07 18:27
#140
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Albania LDK_Hltv 
Nt
2016-12-07 20:13
swiss format bestest format
2016-12-07 18:34
#85
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Germany Bennime 
mouz might have a chance this way
2016-12-07 18:34
#88
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Finland Emvi 
This is awesome. THANK YOU ELEAGUE
2016-12-07 18:36
#90
CHEDEL | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
I'm a simple swiss, i see "Swiss-format" i upvote.
2016-12-07 18:39
#156
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Norway insy 
Go back to reddit.
2016-12-07 21:23
#164
CHEDEL | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
9gag
2016-12-07 21:58
#92
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Portugal Shion 
Most amazing major inc!
2016-12-07 18:40
#93
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Poland sajlent 
in swiss format there is no possible place for multiple tie breakers right?
2016-12-07 18:40
#178
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Sweden s!d_xaxa 
Nope,but still it is not that good.it favors teams with weak mappool.
2016-12-08 02:26
#96
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Poland mamba99999 
FINALLY G2 have a chance to get out of the group stage.
2016-12-07 18:43
+1
2016-12-07 18:44
Is not like they will even qualify lol
2016-12-07 19:21
Wow. Its like they want inconsistency in this game.
2016-12-07 18:51
#106
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Finland Emvi 
and how is this more "inconsistent" than before?
2016-12-07 18:59
What? Swiss format is the more consist one.
2016-12-07 19:17
A win is a win. No matter how big. Imo taking rounds this seriously breaks the consistency.
2016-12-07 21:50
FeelsGoodMan
2016-12-07 18:57
#105
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France t3r4byt3 
yes, hopefully all the undeserving legends lose their status at the Major
2016-12-07 18:58
i like that system very much!
2016-12-07 19:08
god please no
2016-12-07 19:10
Time to increase your map pool BOISSS
2016-12-07 19:16
#117
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Russia Rusev 
3 bo1 wins to major playoffs lul I predict few top teams to bomb out in the group stage
2016-12-07 19:16
That's seriously great news, so much fun ahead.
2016-12-07 19:30
bo3 groups round robin > swiss > all other formats. so step in the right direction.
2016-12-07 19:31
nice, its better than 2xbo1 losses in a major and ur out.
2016-12-07 19:36
it also lets teams stay for atleast 3 days before getting eliminated. lol
2016-12-08 18:54
I hope it wont be just one day for group stage
2016-12-07 19:39
#157
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Norway insy 
Too bad
2016-12-07 21:24
#127
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Germany BFH10 
ez for Mouz then
2016-12-07 19:46
#128
FalleN | 
Brazil Lk1Ng 
ez for SK and god FOX
2016-12-07 19:49
#131
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Switzerland Yabbahh 
We dont have a scene but we have a format Ez 4 swiss
2016-12-07 19:51
#158
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Norway insy 
BBBBut... But Maniac men)))))))))))
2016-12-07 21:25
#132
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Moldova flymans 
Good improvement
2016-12-07 19:51
#133
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Azerbaijan Talley 
too many best of ones.
2016-12-07 19:59
#134
rain | 
United Kingdom shitbruh 
THANK MR ELEAGUE
2016-12-07 20:06
First, lul
2016-12-07 20:46
#153
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Brazil Charizaldo 
Best format. Nice one Eleague
2016-12-07 20:58
This is clearly the best format. People defending the GSL thing love the game less than people (like us) praising the Swiss format. In GSL it's always the same 4 teams from the group meeting BS. Strongest team will likely win in 2 BO1's (sometimes an upset will happen), the shittiest team will go out in 2 BO1's and the 2 "average" will play each other in the BO3 decider. It's predictable as fuck. That Swiss format is great because you don't know, until the draw is made (not even after every game of a round is played) what are gonna be the match ups. This is just fun and way more fair (that Astralis with one stand in and then 2 in the quarters/Dignitrash/Gambit/OpTic was boring as fuck when you had a G2/SK/Fnatic/FaZe group, ok you could fix the seedings but a team wouldn't ever deserve to get access to the next major just because that team won 2 BO1s and became a "Legend" because making top 8 of a Major.) The next thing to fix the Majors is putting an end to the "the 8 teams making at least the quarters" are qualified for the next Major. Only the top 4 should be qualified directly for the next Major.
2016-12-07 21:07
+3. At the time of the Astralis group, they had teams 9 - 12 HLTV ranked while the death group had four of the top 5. Wasn't very fun to watch. As much as I love watching my favorite teams become legends, top 4 makes sense due to the unstable nature of CSGO rosters and results. Essentially allows 12 teams to qualify instead of 8. Additionally the Swiss format eliminates the stupid group seeding where previous legends are no.1/2 seed for that group even though they are dog shit (CLG anyone?)
2016-12-08 18:52
Thanks for talking about CLG. Makes me realize my mistake : the NA team in the Astrali/Dignitas/Gambit group was CLG not OpTic. OpTic was on (my opinion) the second weakest group with NiP, NaVi and F3. (to me the VP/Liquid/Mouz/NV is clearly stronger than the NiP/NaVi/OpTic/F3). So yeah that Denmark/Gambit/CLG was even weaker (as OpTic was obviously at the time already better than CLG). I think with 8 teams becoming legend it's not making a strong enough rotation in teams playing Majors. Not that i want to see some "good" teams not playing the Major but to me getting out of groups is clearly not enough to get a seat into a Major 4 to 6 months later. These "good" teams qualifying to Major and getting to top 8 because (it has happened quite a few times) they were mostly in an easy group should have to play the qualifier. Some big names (if we go from 8 to 4 Legends) might not qualify but we might get some new names, which imo wouldn't decrease the entertainment of the Major(TyLoo for example if 12 spots and not 8 are at play in the qualifier).
2016-12-08 19:00
#159
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Europe Tejmn 
Ez For HR <3
2016-12-07 21:27
gay
2016-12-07 21:44
#161
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Spain m4t4 
i like a lot the swiss format for the qualies but not for the main event. lets see how it goes
2016-12-07 21:45
Might be interesting.
2016-12-07 22:26
#167
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Spain Wakeful_ 
I think NIP, dignitas, Optic, EnVyUs, mousesports, FaZe, G2 and C9 will be in the Major. But it's ridiculous that FLIPSIDE is in and teams like Godsent, Immortals or CLG can be out.
2016-12-07 22:31
what do you mean? godsent, immortals and clg are at the same level of flipside
2016-12-07 23:16
that's the problem with legend status. I think they should change it to top 4 instead of top 8 for legends.
2016-12-07 23:55
top6 is fair enuf
2016-12-08 00:20
#180
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United Kingdom kick_jdm_ffs 
how the hell do you do top 6 lol
2016-12-08 06:34
RawZaus brain doesnt work like ours do Dont go too harsh on him
2016-12-08 08:34
HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH u r so funny man................. not.
2016-12-08 14:15
wats wrong wit it? top 3 each groups. 8 is too much 6 is enuff
2016-12-08 14:14
#175
DAVEY | 
Netherlands FLCEVY5 
More Best of Ones.... fuck yeah D:
2016-12-08 00:12
#181
Sweden KcD 
I like this for the qualifier, but like many others I think it is odd to have it in the Major itself. My question is how the seeding for the playoffs work. With groups you have one team in first place and one team in second place, making it easy to square teams of for the playoffs. In the swiss format it seems to me that it is likely we will get many teams with the same score, and it will be hard to decide which of those teams will be getting what seed for the playoffs. I do not like it when round difference decide anything. That way teams that play good, close, entertaining matches, risk getting punished.
2016-12-08 07:01
shitty swiss format is shit. only bo1s. so shit teams like FaZe can get somewhere. bring back bo3 group games. fuck bo1s or 2xbo1s.
2016-12-08 07:40
I prefer this system over GSL. However, I hope for Bo3s and not Bo1s.
2016-12-08 09:41
#191
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Poland Matt2121 
So stupid and boring, boooo
2016-12-08 15:45
#202
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Kazakhstan Tarob 
2 8-teams groups KreyGasm
2016-12-13 12:43
when you thought that 2017 will be better year for cs than 2016 ..... then you see this
2016-12-19 17:48
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