stanislaw leaves OpTic

MIRAA
February 1st, 2017 23:44

Peter "stanislaw" Jarguz has left OpTic Gaming's active roster, Will "RUSH" Wierzba has revealed.

The announcement was made on the latest episode of OpTic's "Vision" documentary series, with Will "RUSH" Wierzba adding that Peter "stanislaw" Jarguz signed for another team in the aftermath of the ELEAGUE Major. 

OpTic fans had high hopes for the event following impressive showings in ELEAGUE Season 2 and at the ECS Season 2 finals, but the team ended up being sent packing in the Swiss stage, with one victory from four matches.


stanislaw has decided to leave OpTic 

RUSH admitted that the entire team was caught off-guard by stanislaw's decision, which leaves the squad without an ingame leader just two weeks before DreamHack Masters Las Vegas.

"We knew there were some talks going on, but we thought he would stay with us because we talked to him about it, [OpTic CEO] Hector talked to him, and we thought that thing was cool," Wierzba said.

"This comes out of the blue, and it hurts a lot. When he finally made this decision, he did not come to me so we could talk things through and see if we could fix them. I do not even know what issues he had.
"The worst part was that he was our ingame leader, and those are really hard to come by, especially in North America. I do not know what we are going to do. Maybe we will get someone within our team to fill that role."

"This comes out of the blue, and it hurts a lot. When he finally made this decision, he did not come to me so we could talk things through and see if we could fix them. I do not even know what issues he had.

"The worst part was that he was our ingame leader, and those are really hard to come by, especially in North America. I do not know what we are going to do. Maybe we will get someone within our team to fill that role."

OpTic currently have the following quartet:

Canada Keith "NAF" Markovic
United States Will "RUSH" Wierzba
United States Tarik "tarik" Celik
Spain Óscar "mixwell" Cañellas 

Spain Óscar 'mixwell' Cañellas
Óscar 'mixwell' Cañellas
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
507
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Canada Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Keith 'NAF' Markovic
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
662
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.16
United States Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Tarik 'tarik' Celik
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
742
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Canada Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Peter 'stanislaw' Jarguz
Age:
23
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
606
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
United States Will 'RUSH' Wierzba
Will 'RUSH' Wierzba
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
665
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.16
#1
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United Kingdom DarkOmen 
Stan is the best player in the world, sad to see him leave :(
2017-02-01 23:44
#34
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United States donaldjae 
wooooooah. RIP SLAW
2017-02-01 23:44
HF IN LIQUID STAN
2017-02-01 23:44
wtf, why would he leave
2017-02-01 23:45
xantares to optic confirmed
2017-02-01 23:45
+1
2017-02-01 23:47
hello
2017-02-01 23:49
So stupid most valuable player in best team Na leaves the best team in na
2017-02-02 09:02
yeah wtf
2017-02-02 10:04
#404
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Netherlands liQuidmoTion 
Xantares or chrisJ please
2017-02-02 10:54
ya why would he do it after FINALLY leading an NA team to 1st and 2nd place finishes
2017-02-02 12:28
2017-02-02 18:58
Also it wasn't like they were absolute garbage at the major. They lost 2 tight games to Astralis and VP, the eventual finalists and Godsent, a team that demolished Astralis and nearly beat North as well. Optic easily makes top 8 prolly top 4 if they don't have to face VP and Astralis.
2017-02-07 00:11
liquid thinks that switching 1 player all the time will help, but the main problem is still there
2017-02-02 18:57
-1
2017-02-02 01:19
Yeah like xantares kebab can speak english
2017-02-02 18:43
#326
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United States kdpetr0 
how to fix Optic now: -Naf +Hiko (for igl) +Elige (for frags) = best NA team ever in cs
2017-02-02 03:32
#327
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
but stan left to play with EliGE, so
2017-02-02 03:46
Lmao Naf> Elige
2017-02-02 05:33
#352
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United States ENCE_shroud 
Low bait
2017-02-02 05:46
No b8 just facts. Simple mentally ruined Elige, he has PTSD now forever
2017-02-02 06:15
lmao
2017-02-02 08:06
#376
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United States cornycows 
Elige only does good against T3 teams. Worst player on liquid when they play good team. Overrated
2017-02-02 08:34
he did pretty good in major tho
2017-02-02 12:18
#433
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United States ENCE_shroud 
He hard carried at the major
2017-02-02 14:07
EliGe>shroud
2017-02-02 15:15
#454
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Norway BigCannon 
anyone > shroud
2017-02-02 17:53
Stanislaw was better
2017-02-02 10:01
#430
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United States kdpetr0 
Elige has so much fragging potential.
2017-02-02 12:58
>best NA team ever in cs >hiko lol
2017-02-02 14:44
#439
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United States kdpetr0 
>c9 in 2014 >liquid in early 2016 both had hiko you're silly
2017-02-02 15:02
how is this relevant?
2017-02-02 15:06
#445
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United States kdpetr0 
he's been on some of the best na teams ever, stupid UAE kid
2017-02-02 16:06
he's right, hiko is dead weight rn
2017-02-02 19:00
rip optic gaming 201X-2016 (*)
2017-02-01 23:45
#189
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Romania DAX1k 
Lul,i really think that will happed,if he will not go to liquid/c9 he destroyed he's career
2017-02-02 00:16
#195
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Poland Coachinho 
+1
2017-02-02 00:22
who will liquid kick?
2017-02-02 02:53
#321
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Brazil Jack3D_br 
Maybe p1mp or nitr0. I don't believe he will left to C9, they have stewie, he is a great player and IGL
2017-02-02 03:24
betweeen pimp and nitr0 i think tyhey will kick pimp for sure
2017-02-02 12:19
#477
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Brazil Jack3D_br 
maybe p1mp.
2017-02-03 18:42
Why would he leave tho? joining liquid or cloud9?
2017-02-01 23:45
Liquid most likely and Hiko will go to optic at leasts thats the rumor
2017-02-02 11:33
lol
2017-02-01 23:47
#166
lurppis | 
Finland jUSAH 
they should get lurppis to make na cs great once again
2017-02-02 00:09
:D
2017-02-02 09:56
FalleN to optic, I believe
2017-02-02 00:26
NiKo leaves mouz and goes to optic.
2017-02-02 00:29
He would destroy that team with his toxic rages throw out the tournament!
2017-02-03 00:13
#312
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United States NRS922 
Stainislaw wouldn't leave Optic when they were doing so well unless he signed with a better like C9 or Liquid even tho Optic has been better as of late C9 defiantly at their best could designate them
2017-02-02 02:47
plus c9 pays more
2017-02-02 02:54
#345
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Brazil xpassw0rd 
Who would he replace at c9?
2017-02-02 05:18
shroud
2017-02-02 06:03
shroud out stewie back to madfraging stan to igl seems legit
2017-02-02 19:01
#468
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Brazil xpassw0rd 
He's going to liquid though
2017-02-02 21:58
No they wouldn't probably+better gaming house in optic
2017-02-02 08:09
pretty sure c9 salary is outrageous
2017-02-02 09:18
na. OpTic probably pays higher especially considering what gaming house they gave to the team it seems unlikely that OpTic wouldn't.
2017-02-02 09:19
#399
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Brazil xpassw0rd 
Right that's what I was thinking... they live in a fucking mansion in Chicago dude
2017-02-02 10:25
#416
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World lalt 
If C9 paid well, why they are whoring in Twitch all day?
2017-02-02 12:01
never enough
2017-02-02 12:19
no such thing as too much money
2017-02-02 17:33
i have heard that Liquid is joining optic
2017-02-02 15:30
#3
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CIS sergioff 
ez
2017-02-01 23:44
#5
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North America northamerican 
what an idiot lol hope they can get daps back from splyce or wherever he went LMAO
2017-02-01 23:44
daps is trash lmao
2017-02-01 23:45
#67
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North America northamerican 
need IGL
2017-02-01 23:45
There are other options for IGLs out there...daps is as good as a Premier IGL at best. OpTiC would be better off buying out a Pro League IGL's contract, getting someone from NA Premier, or finding an EU IGL.
2017-02-01 23:46
#132
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Australia Smrfy 
Who is better thats out there? I can't think of a decent IGL they could possibly get. If you say sean you have down syndrome.
2017-02-01 23:56
Lol I wasn't thinking seangares at all, and for you to say "you have down syndrome if you say seangares" makes you look like more of a dumbass than you already are. OpTiC stand a better chance with Slemmy or some Premier NA IGL over daps. It's time to stop recycling garbage Pro players and give new up and coming players a chance. Cloud9 took a leap of faith with shroud and stewie2k and it paid off. And yes, I know shroud is not an IGL and stewie2k is not a "full-time IGL", but is more of an "on-the-go IGL".
2017-02-02 00:09
Nonetheless, seangares has been proven to be a lot better than daps as an IGL and a fragger. Hence, he's brought more wins to his previous teams than daps has.
2017-02-02 00:10
#266
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Australia Smrfy 
> and for you to say "you have down syndrome if you say seangares" makes you look like more of a dumbass than you already are. Geez sorry for anticipating NA fans to suck off Sean like they do in every discussion of NA callers. It's hardly a rare occurence and a tongue in cheek comment doesn't make someone a dumbass. Optic would never have another shot at going deep in a major or similar tournament if they stooped to the level of picking up someone of Slemmy's skill level. Sean has always been in MUCH more skilled lineups than daps of course he has more wins to his name? He has had the BEST players in NA on multiple rosters. (Also I never said daps was good, he is a trash pick up, even Hiko would be a better pick up imo) Nevertheless you never actually named a decent pick up which was the question at hand. Saying "take a risk on some unproven talent" is the most regurgitated and cliched response and you didn't even name any underrated talent (shout out to Shinobi).
2017-02-02 01:32
Taking a risk on up and coming players is better than recycling shitty "been there, done that" Pro players. And how come I didn't name any up and coming Premier IGLs? There's over a dozen IGLs who have done a lot of work to work their way up from Open to Premier - you should be able to check the players yourself. Not everything will be spoon-fed to you. And again, seangares brings more to a team than daps ever has and ever will be able to. Keep calling facts "dick sucking", because that will get you somewhere in an argument (sarcastic remark if you could not tell).
2017-02-02 02:24
#334
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Australia Smrfy 
If you think every IGL in premier is worth a shot then that is hilarious
2017-02-02 04:10
You take things way too literally. I'm done trying to make valid points with a brick wall like you.
2017-02-02 04:18
#245
gas | 
Korea kaiske 
flusha:D
2017-02-02 01:00
they could pickup barbarr or ange1l + HRA COACH
2017-02-02 00:49
#96
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic TiLT3x 
mofo in my wet dreams I hope that they can fucking SOMEHOW persuade Valve in to unbanning ex-iBP and bring in Dazed. W O N T F U C K I N G H A P P E N
2017-02-01 23:49
#6
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United Kingdom suckyournan 
wtf?!?!?!
2017-02-01 23:44
Good luck NA Poland
2017-02-01 23:44
savage
2017-02-02 02:25
if he can speak Polish ez Virtus Pro
2017-02-02 11:58
EZ ENCE
2017-02-01 23:44
#16
rain | 
Serbia BODIROGA 
lul
2017-02-01 23:44
lol
2017-02-01 23:44
lol
2017-02-01 23:44
#20
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Finland TommIC 
wtf ?
2017-02-01 23:44
#21
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Finland Paddle  
rip
2017-02-01 23:44
wat
2017-02-01 23:44
rip
2017-02-01 23:44
rip
2017-02-01 23:44
#27
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Denmark clutchkongen 
lol
2017-02-01 23:44
WTF
2017-02-01 23:44
#29
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Slovakia cheatersw0w 
rip
2017-02-01 23:44
nub
2017-02-01 23:44
#31
World 800k 
lul
2017-02-01 23:44
scream incoming?
2017-02-01 23:45
#33
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Sweden Swedz 
lul rekt
2017-02-01 23:44
what?
2017-02-01 23:44
#38
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United States xFyr3 
that was fast
2017-02-01 23:44
:o
2017-02-01 23:44
kick_tarik_ffs
2017-02-01 23:44
lul not a troll
2017-02-01 23:44
#42
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North America RarePun 
WHAT
2017-02-01 23:44
PLS ELIGE PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
2017-02-01 23:44
#44
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Poland SiDxHLTV 
Expected
2017-02-01 23:44
#45
Jonti | 
Switzerland veach 
holy shit thats unexpected dumb move tho, insane igl
2017-02-01 23:44
lul
2017-02-01 23:44
#48
DAVEY | 
Canada josef733 
WHAT?
2017-02-01 23:44
#49
f0rest | 
Germany sleezy 
kRYSTAL INC
2017-02-01 23:44
+1
2017-02-01 23:58
rip optic
2017-02-01 23:44
wtf???
2017-02-01 23:44
strange
2017-02-01 23:44
rip optcic gaaayming
2017-02-01 23:44
lol what
2017-02-01 23:44
#56
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North America SomaRoss 
fuck man, I really liked this lineup...
2017-02-01 23:44
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
2017-02-01 23:44
RIP
2017-02-01 23:44
#59
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Andorra Wolter 
lmao
2017-02-01 23:45
RIP YANKO
2017-02-01 23:45
#63
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Sweden BoxTV 
Stanislaw to c9
2017-02-01 23:45
SCREAM TO OPTIC? Kappa
2017-02-01 23:45
ResidentSleeper
2017-02-01 23:45
+EliGE PogFuckingChamp
2017-02-01 23:45
rip optic
2017-02-01 23:45
#72
HObbit | 
Spain Alser 
He decided to leave for anonther team twitch.tv/videos/119003471?t=38m30s
2017-02-01 23:45
#74
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United States Free_Swag 
rip my team
2017-02-01 23:46
expected
2017-02-01 23:47
#79
fnx | 
Turkey CamelotzZz 
+Elige inc
2017-02-01 23:47
elige to optic would be fucking insane xD
2017-02-01 23:47
A bunch on aimers running around on a map without an IGL would be fucking insane, insanely retarded
2017-02-02 10:49
#429
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Poland morosek 
NA NaVi;p
2017-02-02 12:45
LULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
2017-02-02 14:38
Xantares to OpTic Mark my words Edit : Jokes aside they need an IGL instead of a star player. I can see daps being in OpTic again
2017-02-01 23:49
#86
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Slovakia cheatersw0w 
He signed with another team alredy Liquid???
2017-02-01 23:47
#87
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Albania Heavon 
Lol WTF
2017-02-01 23:48
#88
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India LilPump 
Retard, lives in a big mansion and earns stacks each month, still leaves
2017-02-01 23:48
#305
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United States lybrel 
amazing how poor people like you think what are buyouts? what are contracts? what are sign-ins? 100% he's off to make more money. "retard"
2017-02-02 02:38
WTF
2017-02-01 23:48
They wont add elige since they need an IGL. The only one I see there able to igl is mixwell. He did it before on spanish teams but he'd lose a lot of potential
2017-02-01 23:48
sad... he was good captain. IGL, not bad fragger either
2017-02-01 23:48
WTF, prolly got a better offer, and Optic was to dumb to realize his value
2017-02-01 23:49
Seems hard to believe that stanislaw would get a better offer than what he had in optic
2017-02-02 00:06
Yeah I guess, I just don't understand how Optic would let this happen. I feel like he is one of the most valuable players in NA, as he is a solid IGL who does t suck huge dick individually
2017-02-02 00:50
Could have been other factors. I don't think it had to be a better offer, but it's still possible. I would say it may have been a situation similar to fnx where it happened due to internal reasons. Unless we get a straight answer from either stan or optic, we probably shouldn't speculate.
2017-02-02 00:57
Yeah, wise idea.
2017-02-02 01:12
Wow, people being reasonable in an HLTV thread conversation, that's new!
2017-02-02 01:42
They probably ran out of insults. Candyass bitches
2017-02-02 18:23
WHAT LUL RIP CRAPTIC
2017-02-01 23:49
#95
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Kazakhstan KanjaRxD 
dumb move, why they will kick good igl who can frag?
2017-02-01 23:49
He left.
2017-02-01 23:50
They didn't kick, he left
2017-02-02 02:29
daps will be back, look at his tweet
2017-02-01 23:49
Oh god no
2017-02-01 23:50
Please no!!
2017-02-02 02:30
link it
2017-02-02 02:59
#98
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Spain akproxx 
wtf rip
2017-02-01 23:49
going to cloud 9 calling it rn
2017-02-01 23:50
#105
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Poland Marcines 
but...why? ok, they were bad at major, but they had potential lul
2017-02-01 23:50
it's bait
2017-02-01 23:51
#108
shox | 
United Kingdom dezmondo 
nice article.
2017-02-01 23:51
#109
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Australia aucs 
What
2017-02-01 23:51
lol wtf
2017-02-01 23:51
#111
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Finland 9852174563 
WHAT LOL
2017-02-01 23:51
#112
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China zc198608000 
lul wtf add fancy1 plz china numba one😆
2017-02-01 23:51
Damn... Stanislaw is a really good IGL, which there are very few in North America. Strong pistoler&rifler, knows how play intelligently, simple+explosive and most importantly... knows how to gamble and take risks. Both C9 and TL need somebody with his strengths, so here's hoping it works out for all.
2017-02-02 00:02
#114
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Liberia fishing_cat 
that pretty much confirms that shroud is out of c9? they got stan to IGL for them instead. thats pretty fucking stupid, he must be getting paid a fuckton of money for this. and beware if its liquid.... if he left to join liquid, we should call the police on this fucker. bcs if he did that, theres no imagining what other crazy things this maniac might be capable of. either way, rip optic. without an IGL they are back to being some tier2-3 NA suckers. and should they get a bad IGL (direction daps, adren etc) just to get one, they'll likely be even more hilarious as a team.
2017-02-01 23:52
Every word you wrote here is true +1
2017-02-02 00:57
adreN is actually a better choice than daps and a lot of people are saying daps. Please no daps
2017-02-02 03:05
#411
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Liberia fishing_cat 
adren? the guy thats been sucking complete dick throughout 2015 and 2016 both as a caller as well as an individual player, then retired and since then spent his time casually streaming esea pugs for a couple hours a day without showing any ambition to get back to pro level? u either just had a stroke before u wrote up this bullshit or ur trolling. btw not saying daps is miles ahead, he is a shitter too.
2017-02-02 11:31
+1
2017-02-02 07:03
#115
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
WTF? RIP igl role? who will call now? Good luck stanislaw! c9 stanislaw? to igl? -shroud +stanislaw, stewie just confirm on stream! wow!
2017-02-01 23:53
RUSH and EliGE on a Major: every Game 30 frags
2017-02-01 23:52
Elige can't lead
2017-02-02 02:32
Finally optic can be top1
2017-02-01 23:53
wat
2017-02-01 23:53
LMFAo what? :DDD Inb4 sgares to optic and stanislaw to misfits.
2017-02-01 23:53
#120
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France kennySsSsS 
WUT
2017-02-01 23:53
#122
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Poland Roni445 
Stasiu a gdzie ty sie wybierasz
2017-02-01 23:53
Why didn't optic have him under contract? That's the real question
2017-02-01 23:53
+1, its a good question why he was not bound to a contract with them. Could be different resons, but I am just guessing that his contract ran out and he did not want to renew his contract or that his contract got bought from another team.
2017-02-02 00:07
Optics contracts with their team just expired this month so they had to make a new one.
2017-02-02 00:07
RIP OPTIC
2017-02-01 23:53
Liquid -EliGE +Stanislaw Cloud9 -Shroud +EliGE Optic -Stanislaw +Shroud EOQ maluco
2017-02-01 23:53
Can't tell if you are trolling or just not informed about some things. Why in the world would liquid kick their best player? If anyone on liquid is getting replaced, it's nitro or hiko (who has been the worst performing guy on liquid for a while now)
2017-02-01 23:56
The EOQ explains it all, it's a slang from a LoL FB group that went too big and now spreads it's rot everywhere. Don't pay attention to him.
2017-02-02 00:03
There's more to roster changes than just kicking players
2017-02-02 00:09
#230
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Hungary Shaperz 
#125 still doesn't make any sense
2017-02-02 00:39
what???
2017-02-01 23:53
#127
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Germany NjiNjiNji 
Probably joining Liquid, maybe C9
2017-02-01 23:53
those NA teams/players xD
2017-02-01 23:54
#129
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Hungary Stackzyyy 
wtf
2017-02-01 23:55
#134
MODDII | 
Canada uhJake 
I guess this leaves optic room to get another EU player :D
2017-02-01 23:57
rip optic #roptic
2017-02-01 23:59
#RIPtic
2017-02-02 00:01
WHAT?
2017-02-02 00:00
-stanislaw +ScreaM
2017-02-02 00:01
NA CS
2017-02-02 00:03
VP incoming?
2017-02-02 00:04
#148
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Turkey solfex 
kicking igl for who ? i wonder.
2017-02-02 00:05
Wasn't kicked he left to join Liquid or C9.
2017-02-02 00:07
#164
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Turkey solfex 
i dont think so
2017-02-02 00:09
I mean, it's not confirmed which team he is going to, but it is confirmed he wasn't kicked. I assume you just skimmed through the interview, past all the times Rush said that he left.
2017-02-02 00:59
#163
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Can you even read?
2017-02-02 00:09
#183
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Turkey solfex 
wrote before details came. anyway this isnt make sense. there should be somethng we dont know. why would he leave optic?
2017-02-02 00:15
#185
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
Mayby got a better offer from another team. Who knows, he is a very good igl.
2017-02-02 00:16
Only thing that would make sense is him being offered more money in liquid or c9. Other than them 2 teams i have no idea where he would go
2017-02-02 00:19
#192
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Turkey solfex 
i dont think he would leave just for money. there must be personal issues or smth.
2017-02-02 00:20
Money talks my friend. But who knows hopefully we get a statement from him soon with his reasoning
2017-02-02 00:21
Do you need glasses?
2017-02-02 02:34
hiko full time streamer incoming
2017-02-02 00:05
Meh, I actually wouldn't mind that too much. Hiko is really knowledgeable about the game, but he isn't a good enough fragger to put that knowledge to use. If he were to still be part of the community, but not necessarily as part of a higher tiered team, I think it would be a win-win.
2017-02-02 01:01
he joined SK. felps is gonna be coaching
2017-02-02 00:06
#388
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1 finally someone realises it
2017-02-02 09:28
#156
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
just money boys... reality!
2017-02-02 00:07
Obviously. Optic had an insane couple of months. Only money can do this.
2017-02-02 02:35
#389
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2017-02-02 09:29
that was unexpected lol. gg optic.
2017-02-02 00:08
#159
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Sweden Mrjohn 
that so stupid from optic
2017-02-02 00:08
#160
NiKo | 
Poland Jaruzel 
That's terrible. RIP OptiC. Without stan, they are going to be just a pug team.
2017-02-02 00:08
rip optic
2017-02-02 00:08
#167
pyth | 
Kuwait D0oaxD 
hiko incomming
2017-02-02 00:09
#175
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United Kingdom Recks 
If they get Hiko or daps im gonna be pissed
2017-02-02 00:13
your gonna get pised then, Hiko seems to be on his way
2017-02-02 08:25
Ez Slemdog to Optic
2017-02-02 00:11
Who offers more money liquid or c9???
2017-02-02 00:11
riptic
2017-02-02 00:12
and so it begins
2017-02-02 00:12
#173
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United States KpleeZy 
man what the fuck...
2017-02-02 00:12
#174
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Italy Div-\ 
OMG how much money did the other team spend on him? Anyway I don't think the other team will do better than optic (c9 probably) so rip NA scene again.
2017-02-02 00:13
Well that was random...
2017-02-02 00:13
+ShahZam Expected.
2017-02-02 00:14
He is a tier 3 AWPer and has no IGL experience
2017-02-02 02:37
He has been playing very well.. It will be a good choice .. they do not need to IGL
2017-02-02 03:11
#178
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Russia grEminence 
Optic HUNDEN expected
2017-02-02 00:14
Did not see that coming, dumb move tbh, they were really strong as a team.
2017-02-02 00:14
-neo +stan Kappa
2017-02-02 00:14
#181
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Russia FAPPY17 
+shroud
2017-02-02 00:15
unexpected
2017-02-02 00:16
#190
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Russia grEminence 
expected
2017-02-02 00:17
Apparently mixwell is gonna leave too Source: oskar said so on grubys stream
2017-02-02 00:16
Who is gruby?
2017-02-02 02:37
Pro/ex pro player used to play for ebettle/Vexed/AGG played on 2 majors, currently no team and just streaming and playing FPL/gfinity cups
2017-02-02 09:44
#193
fer | 
Argentina MyMatkhev 
C9 Stan
2017-02-02 00:20
STANISLAW TO MOUZ? xD kappa
2017-02-02 00:22
no joke but -denis -spiidi +stan +mixwell?
2017-02-02 00:28
would be pretty good considering mixwell really wants to play with lowel!
2017-02-02 00:29
yep, and stan could igl so niko plays full potential!
2017-02-02 00:30
I don't see Stan leaving NA. NA players aren't as dedicated as EU to leave their home country for profession/passion.
2017-02-02 02:39
#197
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Austria gex0r 
WHY??
2017-02-02 00:23
OpTic Felps, Kappa
2017-02-02 00:23
NO! :(
2017-02-02 00:24
And this is how OpTic went from 4th place to 18th place
2017-02-02 00:24
Meh, depends on who they fill the gap with. They could be aggressive and try getting an established igl, or they could take a risk on someone lower tierd. Or just wait to see where stan goes and pick up whoever he replaces. Hopefully they go with the former, and optic can still remain a decent team.
2017-02-02 01:04
I just don't see Optic again becoming one of the top 3 teams in the world with current NA talent available for IGL. Daps was terrible, Seangares (don't see him leaving misfits) was a good leader but decent captain. They don't have many options. Might have to poach someone or get a EU player.
2017-02-02 02:44
I imagine they'll get someone quickly, and probably make a move later on a better igl.
2017-02-02 02:44
#201
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Romania h1nt 
OptiC ScreaM ??
2017-02-02 00:24
#202
powerka | 
El Salvador Xyt0 
WHAT THE FCK ? XD
2017-02-02 00:24
nice he was nooob
2017-02-02 00:24
+moe = win DH
2017-02-02 00:24
JUDAS
2017-02-02 00:25
#206
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India transformer 
Very soon if they don't find a good IGL, this entire team will disband for sure.
2017-02-02 00:25
easy for shitslemy
2017-02-02 00:26
As soon as an american team starts getting close to T1 something like this happens haha gg na scene ...
2017-02-02 00:27
Any reason not to take sgares? Might be an upgrade call-wise. Still interesting move from Stan, can't see any team in NA better then current Optic.
2017-02-02 00:27
#213
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Italy Div-\ 
He just signed for misfits so I don't see him leaving...
2017-02-02 00:28
He won't leave without Shazam who is a tier 3 AWPer
2017-02-02 02:47
#217
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Lithuania LuXe 
HAZED CONFIRMED
2017-02-02 00:30
#218
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World CuckedbyHLTV 
ez
2017-02-02 00:30
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? Why :(((
2017-02-02 00:31
Stan is not law
2017-02-02 00:35
RIP optic it was good while it lasted
2017-02-02 00:36
I like that move from stan. They fucked him once by kicking him (instead of daps LOL) and now he fucks them even harder. Good play.
2017-02-02 00:36
outplayed
2017-02-02 01:09
OPTIC.FOX inc
2017-02-02 00:36
#229
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World CuckedbyHLTV 
ayyy
2017-02-02 00:37
They should try an IGL from EU, this is a really great team and they should not settle for a mediocre player as daps that cannot even frag just because there are no good players that are IGL aswell in NA. This team is too good to do so
2017-02-02 00:43
#233
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Portugal dracø 
lol, payback is a bitch. Good move from him, got dem sticker money and now he's off.
2017-02-02 00:44
#473
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Singapore Nephalith 
+1 They kicked him out of the blue like a bitch one, it's only right for him to return the favor.
2017-02-03 04:10
That's a pretty bad move on his end, money or no. I obviously don't know him, or know his reasons so I won't really speculate. It's unfortunate though, because Optic were really doing well despite their poor showing at the major (which, frankly, was because of a lot of bad kill re-peeking). GL to stan, but I hope Optic bounce back from this. They have a lot of potential.
2017-02-02 00:55
2017-02-02 00:58
Wow. Still don't see Optic becoming a top 3 team with Hiko
2017-02-02 02:48
LEARN TO GRIND IT OUT FFS.
2017-02-02 01:02
rip the Polish hero in the USA ;c
2017-02-02 01:06
LUL WTF
2017-02-02 01:10
4Head EUA - 0 majors 0 players in top 20 0 teams in playoffs
2017-02-02 01:11
OpTic back to Tier 2
2017-02-02 01:12
Optic Dazed confirmed, oh wait...
2017-02-02 01:14
rage quit lmao but after seeing misswell in major, he's right tho
2017-02-02 01:20
#262
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Uruguay zniksze 
+s1ck or elige
2017-02-02 01:25
RIP
2017-02-02 01:26
kRYSTAL to OpTic inc.
2017-02-02 01:27
Plz +sgares
2017-02-02 01:32
time to buy Nikolai out of his contract.
2017-02-02 01:32
+xantares lol
2017-02-02 01:34
#270
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Stanislaw to Liquid confirmed after negotiation with Hiko: twitter.com/Liquid_Hiko/status/826947198..
2017-02-02 01:34
Lol what i dick move. Leaving best NA team for some tier 2 fags?
2017-02-02 01:42
Stan going to Liquid - nitr0
2017-02-02 01:45
#274
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Australia jobione 
Confirmed that Stan is swapping with hiko
2017-02-02 01:46
Optic Gaming 2016 - 2016
2017-02-02 01:58
+4
2017-02-02 02:01
No idea why Stanislaw is leaving. Let's hope he joined a better team.
2017-02-02 02:07
#281
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Palestine hevCS 
Hiko replaced him it's confirmed
2017-02-02 02:14
+elige and NA finally will have tier1 consistent
2017-02-02 02:18
rip NA scene again
2017-02-02 02:19
lol fucking idiot. leave a team thats making their way up legit. no wonder na is complete garbage ROFL
2017-02-02 02:28
Try to get NiKO on board. If that's not posible, get in a cheaper but reliable option, sgares.
2017-02-02 02:28
Hiko and stan swap
2017-02-02 02:31
does that even make sense?, hiko will be leading them?
2017-02-02 02:32
Obviously lurppis incoming
2017-02-02 02:29
You know honestly, if this was before they won e-league or maybe a COUPLE months after this, I would maybe expect this. But how are you going to win the biggest major to date, then get in the finals of another big tournament pretty much juggling the Top 1-2 spot with Astralis and then just give the fuck up after one shitty tournament. Like I get it, they got pretty hardcore fucking rekt and flat out embarrassed. It's funny because no one really cared that they won EL or even coming in the finals in ECS because we just want C9 or Liquid to win, and expected nothing out of Optic, but now, after they win some of us for the first time actually EXPECT optic to win and of course they crumble. Insane how that shit works. Anyway I think it's insane how he gave up after one bad loss. I mean shit look at teams like CLG who continually NEVER won shit for years and years and yet they stuck together and tried to fix things and actually became an okay team and eventually NA's 2nd best team for a while (JDM/hazed/cutler/tarik/ and fugly/fns lineup that is). They never really did anything but they started getting close cause they worked shit out. And lost JDM and lost everything lololol and crumbled roflorflrofl. so, unless he's got some personal shit going on I don't fucking get it. Isn't #2 like the fucking highest an NA team has ever been rated on this gay site? Aren't they the first team to win a major? with THAT lineup? I just can't see this being a decision based on a team. It has to be something real life related. Curious to see what he does or what his explanation is.
2017-02-02 02:30
hiko and stan swap
2017-02-02 02:31
if true, i like this move for both teams
2017-02-02 02:37
Dude,they didn't win a major, wtf are you talking about? Major =/= 250k+ LAN
2017-02-02 16:22
hltv.org/news/18777-daps-leaves-optic they cut him last year for tarik so he fucked them good one last time gg
2017-02-02 20:30
fox to optic confirmed
2017-02-02 02:37
rip NA cs* was good while it happened *
2017-02-02 02:38
He's going to selfless, for anyone wondering. He's getting paid a little less, but a lot less stress compared to optic (who often didnt listen to his calls/strats) source: twitter.com/SelflessRyu/status/826812518..
2017-02-02 03:00
He is going to Optic, not SelflessGG. SelflessGG is a team that creates pro players from up and comers, not the other way around. I doubt Ryu would even want to give him a contract he can't afford just for him to achieve nothing. Hiko is most likely joining Optic.
2017-02-02 03:55
"He is going to Optic". Liquid :p
2017-02-02 08:27
i will add adreN, u cant find better iGL in NA. Hope to see that. Edit: or seangares
2017-02-02 03:12
adreN would be sick, he's a lot better than most people think.. just chokes in important matches but hopefully his experience will help with that
2017-02-02 03:26
adreN got aim also, but he had tough period in Liquid. Not saying that he always choked. Just didnt work. I would also like if optic sign him.
2017-02-02 03:27
hiko's replacing him ez
2017-02-02 03:29
gl on liquid, stan
2017-02-02 03:30
What goes around, comes around Optic.
2017-02-02 03:52
I have a feeling hiko will do better in opt and Stan will do worse in liq
2017-02-02 03:56
telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/game-.. stanis and stannis same kind of person
2017-02-02 03:57
#333
fer | 
Argentina MAXEE|SDM 
optic sgares
2017-02-02 04:07
Optic is doing quite good and he's leaving. lol. probably money.
2017-02-02 04:18
yah idk why he's leaving. i honestly believe optic can win many 250k+ tourneys and be a top 5 team for 2017. possibly pull off some huge tourney wins and upset major contenders.
2017-02-02 05:12
wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Stanis.. .... but no offical comment from either team...
2017-02-02 04:20
And i only just started to respect na csgo ;(
2017-02-02 04:36
oh noo
2017-02-02 04:46
either -hiko +stanislaw or -shroud/nothing +stanislaw
2017-02-02 05:11
#344
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Australia Not_One 
Optic is a team with some pretty huge potential. Maybe a change and a new pickup will do them some good. Shame stan left but trying to be optimistic
2017-02-02 05:14
#346
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Argentina Cepheus 
-stanislaw +fRoD
2017-02-02 05:20
#347
swag | 
North America Ares872 
my bet is on liquid with no conformation yet but just guessing that pimp is probably heading back to EU seeing as the team hasn't quite clicked since his addition i mean yes winning a couple games at the major is nice but i could see him leaving and joining liquid making them pretty nice imo if jdm can get his head on straight and back to awping like he was when he joined and allows hiko and co the freedom to go back to playing cs how theyre used to bc none of them fit the IGL roll in anyway or they just dont like doing it which doesn't help either.
2017-02-02 05:33
Optic will go back to tier 2 or 3 now, straight outta top 5. Also na backstabbers, just a regular day, betray your team for a better opportunity, atleast talk to them while making the decision. My bet is he is joining C9 or liquid?
2017-02-02 05:35
To be fair, they did the same thing to him a while back.
2017-02-02 16:24
#350
swag | 
North America Ares872 
well that just changed what i said lol slingshotesports.com/2017/02/01/liquid-a..
2017-02-02 05:36
Very sad to see Hiko leave Liquid if he does, but Stanislaw is a pretty good player Also, I noticed that after the major, there was no French Shuffle, but it seems like there's an NA Shuffle coming lol
2017-02-02 06:04
#355
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Finland jUPPE! 
Either C9 or Liquid. He wouldn't leave for any other teams. Both teams would also have great use for stanislaw as IGL.
2017-02-02 06:14
haven't been this triggered by a roster move since swag left coL for iBP edit: or NiP refusing to pick up Maikelele
2017-02-02 06:36
Optic top 4 :--------Dddd
2017-02-02 07:13
#360
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World G2fan 
Plz elige
2017-02-02 07:16
Retarded move by him...
2017-02-02 07:32
+hiko confrmed xDD
2017-02-02 07:38
#364
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Lithuania Paulius_CS 
Why would he leave an NA team that had the most success in years from that region. Well anyway..rip Optic gaming.
2017-02-02 07:57
+Elige
2017-02-02 07:59
Rip, they should have sent tarik
2017-02-02 08:08
+VACTARES
2017-02-02 08:08
LOL WHY??! so stupid, he won't get a better team again to work with..
2017-02-02 08:13
it has to involve liquid and c9 too
2017-02-02 08:16
Stanislaw Lost the game for optic in cbble on 13-12 he did insane mistakes and big fails like 3 rounds in row. Costed them the game
2017-02-02 08:16
a decent igl is half the reason they were even 13-12 to begin with.
2017-02-02 09:33
Ye cuz everyone else did nothing so let's give him the credits for 13 rounds. Kden
2017-02-03 08:51
did i say 100%?
2017-02-03 12:20
RIP NA CS UNBAN IBP
2017-02-02 08:41
wtf lol
2017-02-02 09:01
-stanis +swag oh wait FeelsBadMan
2017-02-02 09:07
Remember dignitas is looking for a new team and focusing on it being a NA based team.. dignitas.NA : stanislaw Way to start a team.. got a good igl.. now just find the fraggers/lurk/awp/support
2017-02-02 09:09
#382
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Malaysia Schne1zer 
Guys Hiko is being swapped with stan confirmed at Liquid
2017-02-02 09:12
I heard that trump called him. m1xwell will leave too!
2017-02-02 09:13
This caught me off guard. Waiting for Frenchies but this canadian messed me up
2017-02-02 09:15
#387
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Germany uRaguuuu 
Im 99% sure his new team is splyce i have proof
2017-02-02 09:23
They are nobodys compared to optic that just won a major
2017-02-02 09:41
#392
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Poland Astoner55 
-Stan +Hiko Confirmed
2017-02-02 09:42
#394
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United States we1zo 
EliGE joins (Rifler) -NAF FLY Stewie2k joins (IGL) -stanislaw zews joins (coach) peacemaker joins (second coach) TOP-1 world easy for OpTiC?
2017-02-02 09:46
???? sad shitcryPROSSkids
2017-02-02 09:58
Damn when i read the tweets i thought he was kicked. Standa is great.
2017-02-02 10:29
#401
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Croatia WhoIsRolezk1 
OpTic plz contact me Im best IGL in finland i know every B strats ingame there is i know some dank smokes others do not know :)
2017-02-02 10:40
WOW
2017-02-02 10:51
no slav no win
2017-02-02 11:04
+Sgares incoming
2017-02-02 11:10
gg
2017-02-02 11:35
+xantares inc no english igl best
2017-02-02 11:29
#413
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Turkey RooseBolton 
#rIpTic
2017-02-02 11:41
that's sad, when a team start to made it the igl just leave is tought shit. :/ gl green wall
2017-02-02 11:42
Liquid definitely got the better deal here..
2017-02-02 12:03
So sad news :(
2017-02-02 12:05
what about + happy as igl?
2017-02-02 12:16
Rip GreenWall
2017-02-02 12:17
#428
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Lithuania alon9 
+pronax
2017-02-02 12:33
maybe adreN ? and than - pimp + stan
2017-02-02 13:28
why stan you leave :(((
2017-02-02 13:48
ez +ScreaM Tarik igl
2017-02-02 14:09
soooooooooooooo baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad. + Swag KAPPA
2017-02-02 14:28
#438
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Europe k3nny/// 
why tho?
2017-02-02 14:50
#443
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Hungary plummie 
2017-02-02 15:40
#444
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Finland Madd!z 
NA finally gets a good team that seems to have a bright future. IGL decides to leave the team and now they are fucked. LUL
2017-02-02 15:47
#446
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Finland NUCL3AR 
Lurppis to fill that role
2017-02-02 16:09
please -nitro + stan! nitro has just been utter poop.
2017-02-02 16:13
Is this true ?
2017-02-02 18:26
Would be awesome to see a full canadian super team give the scene a go.
2017-02-02 16:58
Soon as optic had been growing on the stage
2017-02-02 17:35
poor naf... now hes gotta play by himself in the ice hockey rink
2017-02-02 18:06
Rip optic
2017-02-02 18:23
-stanislaw + YNk
2017-02-02 19:08
#465
shroud | 
Canada ozboz 
bad move, OpTic was the only team in the top 15 to have no player below a 1.00 rating...
2017-02-02 19:56
I don't think they care about stats they want to win and since every team has figured them out they probably feel like they need a new approach.
2017-02-02 20:49
feelsbadman rip top 5
2017-02-02 23:13
#471
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Finland kingfenix 
Hiko is joining to Optic!
2017-02-03 00:28
rip na?
2017-02-03 12:05
+ChrisJ and my life is complete
2017-02-03 18:51
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