atter joins Renegades

Professeur
February 14th, 2017 16:45

Renegades have decided to swap their latest addition Ricardo "Rickeh" Mulholland with the Swedish talent Simon "atter" Atterstam for DreamHack Masters Las Vegas.

Ricardo "Rickeh" Mulholland joined Renegades in July of 2016, but failed to elevate the team's results by a significant measure—they weren't able to win the two Asian events they attended, eXTREMESLAND ZOWIE Asia 2016 and the Asian Minor, finishing second to VG.CyberZen and TYLOO respectively.

Following those tournaments, Rickeh had a good showing in Renegades's second place finish at DreamHack Open Winter 2016, but the Australian team flopped at the ELEAGUE Major qualifier in December, finishing 15-16th.


Atter was a part of the Swedish TWC 2016 lineup 

Coming up to DreamHack Masters Las Vegas, Renegades have decided to swap Rickeh with the 23-year-old Swedish player Simon "atter" Atterstam. atter was most recently in action at DreamHack Open Leipzig, where he was the best-rated player of qwerty, but most of his career was spent with the team Torpedo with whom he attended the Counter-Pit Season 2 LAN Finals.

It is still uncertain if atter will be a permanent figure in Renegades and what instigated the change—as the both the players and the organization remain quiet on the matter.

Renegades will attend DreamHack Masters Las Vegas with:

Australia Yaman "yam" Ergenekon
Australia Aaron "AZR" Ward
Australia Justin "jks" Savage
Australia Karlo "USTILO" Pivac
Sweden Simon "atter" Atterstam

Serbia Aleksandar "kassad" Trifunović (Coach)

Professeur writes for HLTV.org and can be found on Twitter.

Australia Aaron 'AZR' Ward
Aaron 'AZR' Ward
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
688
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Australia Karlo 'USTILO' Pivac
Karlo 'USTILO' Pivac
Age:
25
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
634
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Sweden Simon 'atter' Atterstam
Simon 'atter' Atterstam
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
240
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Australia Justin 'jks' Savage
Justin 'jks' Savage
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
685
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Australia Ricardo 'Rickeh' Mulholland
Ricardo 'Rickeh' Mulholland
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
492
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.63
APR:
0.13
Serbia Aleksandar 'kassad' Trifunović
Aleksandar 'kassad' Trifunović
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.75
Maps played:
98
KPR:
0.52
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.14
Australia Yaman 'yam' Ergenekon
Yaman 'yam' Ergenekon
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.04
Maps played:
487
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.13
#33
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Switzerland Jubei 
WHY THOUGH LMAO
2017-02-14 16:45
#116
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Agreed, Rickeh was their best player after JKS or AZR, he was at least third best. If anyone had to go it was YAM...
2017-02-14 16:51
#149
ISSAA | 
Denmark Gazil 
Yam is their awper tho, and USTILO = USELESSTILO Yes i am crestive ikr
2017-02-14 16:58
#348
aurora | 
Australia omag 
Ustilo is fine as their entry fragger
2017-02-15 00:13
#354
ISSAA | 
Denmark Gazil 
nope he is pure trash as useless as it gets
2017-02-15 00:38
rickeh is their awper you nig
2017-02-15 02:02
#372
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Australia LACH1E 
and now atter will be, hltv needs some logic ay
2017-02-15 06:59
#414
ISSAA | 
Denmark Gazil 
Logic doesnt apply in aussie cs, its uselesssss
2017-02-15 15:01
#470
NiKo | 
France Meduza 
atter has highest rating. why r u complaining? idiot
2017-02-17 14:20
#367
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Australia starpyur 
Jks and Azr is Renegades Entry Fragger the problem is if Yam starts to awp again he got pritty bad towards the end thats why he swapped to a rifler
2017-02-15 03:55
#452
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Australia LACH1E 
You got the steps wrong It's 1. become literate 2. use internet
2017-02-16 08:48
#179
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Turkey CamelotzZz 
I think yam was their igl
2017-02-14 17:05
#188
Respect | 
United Kingdom krazd 
rickeh was igl and awper lol
2017-02-14 17:10
#280
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Turkey CamelotzZz 
Not sure if you are baiting but as you can see wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/Yam
2017-02-14 18:51
fairly sure yam was their igl and second awper.
2017-02-14 22:50
Yam is igl
2017-02-15 07:51
rickeh is a flifty cheater youtube.com/watch?v=5WQ2K8TgR3g 0:40
2017-02-15 12:08
"failed to elevate the team's results by a significant measure" 16-0 against SK LMAO.
2017-02-14 16:52
16-0 is 16-0 my man
2017-02-14 17:00
#330
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Brazil adre221 
when your entire achievements comes down to beating a team with a standin on a bo1 you know you are doing bad
2017-02-14 22:59
when the only people that would argue that point are angry favelas you know you are a shitty demographic.
2017-02-15 07:39
#429
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Brazil adre221 
it's a valid point still, and you are the one angry here, with all ur edgy insults, you must have a picture of renegades winning sk on their worst map with a standin on your wall, after all that's as far as it gets for AU scene lol
2017-02-15 22:04
#417
f0rest | 
India compL1 
How about losing against TYLOO?
2017-02-15 15:18
#427
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Brazil adre221 
upsets happen, what's the issue?
2017-02-15 22:02
#472
f0rest | 
India compL1 
Issue is 16-0 against RNG.
2017-02-17 15:03
Lol, why kick Rickeh? He play well.....
2017-02-14 21:15
#384
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Hungary ChuckeNy 
Cuz renegades`s ceo is swedish, so he picked up his friend lol
2017-02-15 09:06
Why rickeh????
2017-02-14 16:47
2017-02-14 17:30
wtf was that
2017-02-14 17:33
lol , u obv see his hand lift mouse way to the left and then swipe it to the right.. he just trolled everyone, he didn't even hit the player ^^ and no one is so stupid that they cheat in pugs lul
2017-02-14 17:42
trolled everyone and got kicked
2017-02-14 18:23
#245
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Germany sunnyrain 
wtf
2017-02-14 17:49
#278
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Russia Svirv 
trolling, look at hand movement
2017-02-14 18:47
Pretty sure it's because he's a cunt
2017-02-17 05:46
dafuq
2017-02-14 16:45
great
2017-02-14 16:45
unexpected
2017-02-14 16:45
#44
paz | 
Sweden daboxD 
LUL tier5 team
2017-02-14 16:45
wut
2017-02-14 16:45
#46
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Asia bossen1 
wtf
2017-02-14 16:45
#47
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Malaysia kitchai88 
lol
2017-02-14 16:45
LUL
2017-02-14 16:45
Rip RNG
2017-02-14 16:45
LOL
2017-02-14 16:45
#51
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Sweden TDK Em1L 
lul
2017-02-14 16:45
HAHHAHAHAHHHAHA
2017-02-14 16:45
why not yam ...
2017-02-14 16:45
#123
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Seems like politics, Yam must be in bed with some RNG players/management.
2017-02-14 16:52
#167
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Australia RaginStarZ 
either that or rickeh just lost motivation
2017-02-14 17:02
or caught cheating
2017-02-14 17:20
#209
zehN | 
Finland jemmis 
this
2017-02-14 17:23
you seen his stream lately? he said he was pumped to do really well this year in renegades, was putting a lot of hours into rank S trying to improve individually, this seems really strange
2017-02-14 17:58
#263
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Australia RaginStarZ 
than that must mean he was either under pressure or was moving to a "better" org
2017-02-14 18:17
#314
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Politics in the team according to Ustilo twitter.com/USTILO/status/83155688908314..
2017-02-14 22:09
#333
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Australia RaginStarZ 
sad :'( i'd only wish to see aussie csgo back to top ten
2017-02-14 23:24
#334
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
LOL if u honestly ever think we were top 10, you're dreaming. UK was actually Top 10 at one stage and they're in the toilet now: hltv.org/news/9668-csgo-team-ranking-dec.. We were however like Top 15 at best.
2017-02-14 23:26
#335
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Australia RaginStarZ 
early rng and late vox was top ten.
2017-02-14 23:28
#336
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
In all of the HLTV team rankings, RNG has only ever been at best 14th for the month. Unless you can link them as Top 10 you're mistaken...
2017-02-14 23:31
#337
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Australia RaginStarZ 
imo cant go off hltv because they ONLY use stats. watch thorin video on rankings if you want to know why i hate hltv rankings
2017-02-14 23:33
#338
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Ah yes, because Thorin knows everything... LMAO, if anything, HLTV's rankings are objective and based on data, not emotions, thus they accurately depict the ranking of teams currently. You have no proof to back your claim, BTFO.
2017-02-14 23:34
#340
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Australia RaginStarZ 
look chill i did say "imo" but hltv value major just as much as lan and just because you got the easy way to 2nd or 3rd in a lan doesnt mean you should get the same amount of points as 2nd or 3rd that had a harder route. just because i said i agree with thorin one video doesnt mean i said he knew everything
2017-02-14 23:38
#341
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
All LANs are the same now, the pressure is the same, hell, LANs like WESG have much more money involved yet boast worse teams. Majors aren't particularly the best tournament anymore, sure, maybe 3 years ago, but events like ELEAGUE Seasons are much harder to win than a major. So it's fine for HLTV to rate majors the same as other events now, just because Valve slaps the word "major" on the tournament doesn't mean it's any harder... Hell some good teams this time round weren't even at the last major. NiP wasn't there, nor was Cloud9 or Kinguin all of whom have beaten big teams in the past on LAN and are currently ranked in the Top 12 teams. Majors are merely a way for players to make money with stickers, they aren't really any different to other tournaments or events anymore with $1 million prize pools.
2017-02-14 23:43
#344
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Australia RaginStarZ 
Eleague lan this year was a major Just because a LAN has a same level of attendees doesnt mean the pressure is the same. the difference between a lan even and a major is the prestige which could affect the atmosphere of a team very hard. NIP didnt make it because at the LAN Qualifier they could not bet VEGA. PLEASE FUCKING TELL ME HOW NIP IS 6 RIGHT NOW AFTER FAILING TO BEAT VEGA TO ATTEND ONE OF THE BIGGEST EVENT (IF NOT THE BIGGEST) IN 2017
2017-02-15 00:00
#346
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Well if SK Gaming was number one on HLTV rankings because of majors, then you just refuted your own point earlier which was this: "look chill i did say "imo" but hltv value major just as much as lan" So which is it? Are Majors weighted more or less?? Hmm? Stop talking out of you ass, you're an embarrassment to all Australians. Secondly, ELEAGUE major is different by the way, to ELEAGUE seasons which are coming again later this year, so I have no idea why you even said that. Thirdly, that's right attendees, money and prestige mean nothing, because every game of CS on LAN against Astralis right now is just as challenging as it was at the last major, because majors don't mean anything anymore. The prize pools, the fans, the amount of people watching and the stakes are so high now, that all the pressure is the same for Tier 1 teams at all events now. So thanks for proving my point :) Lastly, just because they didn't qualify because they played bad for one event doesn't mean they aren't a Top 6 team. I mean if you really want to go this route VP lost to Kinguin who at the time were ranked 21, they merely performed badly that match, as a Top 6 team. NiP just played badly and had two players who were sick, of course they weren't performing to the standard on that day, on their best day they are a top 6 team, hence why they are ranked there and all the objective data matches that currently. But keep going on about how "RNG are Top 10" EleGiggle
2017-02-15 00:09
#353
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Australia RaginStarZ 
i took out skgaming because i thought the point wouldnt get across because i worded it shit and decided to reposted it later when i could think of a way to get the point across. Also i said eleague major because you were implying that eleague season lan, which is a qualifer to the eleague major lan, is just as important. Seriously Astralis 2016 is just as challenging as current Astralis? Do you not notice the difference in style and strats? OR MAYBE A DIFFERENT PLAYER?!?! also because an underdog beats a team doesnt always mean the losing team played bad.but in NIP vs VEGA to get to the major case. VEGA was still shit during the lan event Also you will always have a player feeling sick, shit or whatever when they have to travel half way across the world to play on lan gaming paradise csgo lan <3
2017-02-15 00:32
#355
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Well on your first point, thanks for admitting I'm right and that you were wrong. So big +1 for that, it seems you can barely fit sentences together, which isn't surprising... Secondly, ELEAGUE seasons weren't a qualifier for the ELEAGUE major, that is categorically false. The qualifier to the ELEAGUE major was this event: hltv.org/?pageid=357&eventid=2472 Which is different to the event labels ELEAGUE Seasons, like the one that OpTiC won, which was ELEAGUE Season 2, which is this event: hltv.org/?pageid=357&eventid=2407 You are the most retarded person I've met on HLTV, and that's saying something... Third of all, I never once mentioned Astralis' 2016 roster, even if I did, gla1ve entered the lineup in 2016 anyway. All I mentioned was that the roster at the last major (which by the way contextually is the ELEAGUE Major 2017) is the same as it will be at DH Las Vegas and since they are such a good team they will be as hard to beat as they were at the major, but I guess you're too dumb to read... So I will quote it for you again, ya ready? I said this: "Thirdly, that's right attendees, money and prestige mean nothing, because every game of CS on LAN against Astralis right now is just as challenging as it was at the last major..." That is what I said, but you don't seem to understand that the roster at the last major is the same as it is at Las Vegas. LUL Consequently, the notion that you will always have a player that is sick is wrong, there have been plenty of events without any issues, you are making a false generalisation. I request that you provide evidence that at every CS:GO event ever, there has always been someone sick, in order to prove your point. Lastly, Gamers Paradise was in 2015 hltv.org/?pageid=82&eventid=1764 , which is not comparable to what the CS:GO scene is like now... You seem to just fade context outside of your points. Anyway, show me one event that Tier 1 teams attended in 2016 that is even comparable to how Gamers Paradise was in 2015. You can't, because there was nothing like that at all in 2016. You still have failed to address my point which is that all Tier 1 events wqith Tier 1 teams, have the same pressure. Which they do, so long as they have a bunch of Tier 1 teams, the pressure is the same, the notion that because Valve slaps "major" on the name and adds stickers, that suddenly the game becomes harder was true years ago, but players like Device have played 9 majors and at least 50 LANs, the pressure they feel at all LANs at this point is equal... But sure keep lying to yourself and keep believing "RNG is Top 10", which by the way, you still have failed to provide proof of. Strike 3 RaginStarZ, you're out!
2017-02-15 00:51
#358
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Australia RaginStarZ 
contextually the same? teams are always improving, switching (position/roles) and even changing roosters. Astralis at DH Las Vegas is different from ELEAGUE but i guess the concept of training is foreign to you. Furthermore I didnt just say sick. Mental exhaustion and jet lack are some of the many things that can play a factor into a players performance. The lastly mention about every tier 1 event? you never even collaborated that it was only tier 1 LAN events being all the same. If i remember correctly you only said LAN Events are all the same. Dont be adding little details to things you just generalize to try and cheat your way to win an argument. Anyone can say a team is top ten and there are no grounds to disprove beside another interpretation of an event. In my opinion the performance Vox Eminor did at Gfinity Masters Spring 2 in their group at the time would of give them a 10th position for best team in the world at the time. Going toe to toe with Fnatic "World's best CSGO Team" at the time
2017-02-15 01:50
#359
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
"even changing roosters." I didn't know teams had a dedicated rooster which they changed every so often. LUL "Astralis at DH Las Vegas is different from ELEAGUE but i guess the concept of training is foreign to you." Actually no, they are the same team, just because you train a roster doesn't mean it gets any better. Look at the old TSM/Astralis roster which had cajunb and karrigan, they eventually had to change players because no matter how much they trained they weren't getting any better... The notion that if you train you will always improve is false. Especially if you train in the wrong way. "Furthermore I didnt just say sick. Mental exhaustion and jet lack are some of the many things that can play a factor into a players performance. " Well you said this: "Also you will always have a player feeling sick, shit or whatever" You never expand on your points so it's not my fault you're too stupid to actually say what you mean. Also what the fuck is "jet lack", you mean jet lag??? What are you fucking 5 years old? Learn what these things are before speaking about them, because you are coming across as clueless... Actually scrap that, you don't come across as clueless, you are clueless. I expect you're some brick layer who never passed a Year 10 English exam. "The lastly mention about every tier 1 event? you never even collaborated that it was only tier 1 LAN events being all the same. If i remember correctly you only said LAN Events are all the same." Well unlike you I clarify my statements, and it was clear I was talking about events with Tier 1 teams, why the hell would I be talking about events with Tier 4 mix teams? I was clearly talking about the context of LANs in which the Top 10 or 15 teams play, never once did I mention anything to do with a team like Quetzel being at a Tier 4 event. I was talking about LANs with Tier 1 teams, but you don't understand anything, because you can barely spell or even create proper sentences. You are hereby crowned the most retarded person on HLTV.org. In your famous words, go change some "roosters" and hope that "RNG who is a top 10 team" doesn't get "jet lack". Also stop watching CS:GO, because you know NOTHING about it you clueless sycophant. LUL
2017-02-15 01:55
#362
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
"In my opinion the performance Vox Eminor did at Gfinity Masters Spring 2 in their group at the time would of give them a 10th position for best team in the world at the time. Going toe to toe with Fnatic "World's best CSGO Team" at the time" That's your opinion, but there's no objective data to suggest they were Top 10, even at that event. They won some very close best of ones, and then got smashed later on in that tournament. Not to mention, not even all of the Top 10 teams were there for them to face, so to say they were objectively better than a team that wasn't there is a false statement. Vox won 5 maps across 4 best of twos and finished second last in their group. Hardly Top 10 worthy at all... So you're wrong again... "Anyone can say a team is top ten and there are no grounds to disprove beside another interpretation of an event." Well actually yes there are grounds to disprove that, to say a statement like the team named "Denial" is Top 10 is objectively wrong, because they display no attributes, traits, data or achievements to even get close to that spot. To say that RNG/Vox were a Top 10 team and not acknowledge the achievements and data of other teams who were clearly ahead of them is called 'ignorance'. Never ever was Renegades or Vox Eminor a top 10 team in any objective sense at all. What you are doing is called grandstanding and fanboying over a team which has never displayed the capacity or ability to reach the spot that you put them at. So yes, people can disprove what you're saying, with facts, something which you seem to not understand... God damn, you really are clueless. I can't believe people like you exist in 2017, in a country like Australia which is second on the Human Development Index...
2017-02-15 02:06
#363
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Australia RaginStarZ 
"shit or whatever" is explaining that shit happens and thus it affect things. like you attitude which could affect how aggressive you plays might be. I am not going to list all the mental factors that would even change a player's ability or attitude toward the game because I though the concept of an "off on game" is something you would understand. Just because an event had tier 1 teams doesnt make the LAN just the same as a major. Look at the only big LAN Australia ever had with CSGO where Cloud9 and Virtus Pro came. IT WAS DOG SHIT. I agree on the opinion on training. I probably should of word more like teams change over time with or without a rooster swap. bad training could also decrease the performance of a team. "no objective data to suggest they were Top 10, even at that event." Seriously? There were only 10 teams at the event. Knowing the result at the event how can you even ignorantly say they were not top ten at the time of the result?
2017-02-15 02:18
#371
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
"Knowing the result at the event how can you even ignorantly say they were not top ten at the time of the result?" I can say they weren't because the top 10 best teams weren't even all there... There was no TSM, no Mousesports, no Kinguin, no Luminosity, no Flipsid3 Tactics and no CLG at that event. These teams are all better than Vox was at the time, but they weren't at the event... As a result, Vox merely got a good result because there wasn't all of the good teams there. It was a wasted spot... ""shit or whatever" is explaining that shit happens and thus it affect things. like you attitude which could affect how aggressive you plays might be. I am not going to list all the mental factors that would even change a player's ability or attitude toward the game because I though the concept of an "off on game" is something you would understand." Yeah which is my point about NiP, they had an off game/off week, that's all, so they are still a Top 6 team. "Just because an event had tier 1 teams doesnt make the LAN just the same as a major. Look at the only big LAN Australia ever had with CSGO where Cloud9 and Virtus Pro came." Yeah because there wasn't enough Tier 1 teams, if only two Tier 1 teams attend, it's not even a Tier 1 event. A tier 1 event, is an event stacked with Tier 1 teams. The aussie teams that competed were Tier 4 to Tier 2 in ability. So it doesn't count as a Tier 1 event. Tier 1 events are events like ELEAGUE, ESL Pro League finals, ECS Finals, Dreamhack Masters. Not some event that only has one or two Tier 1 teams... Hence my point still stands, that at Tier 1 events, the pressure is all the same as a major, because you are facing very good teams all the time.
2017-02-15 05:06
#380
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Australia RaginStarZ 
Holy shit. A wasted space? just like all the shit tier 3 EU and US teams that get a invite to LAN EVENTS WITH TIER 1 TEAMS THAT ISNT A MAJOR? At least with a shit house teams from major qualifier prove they belong by beat a NIP, Cloud9, tyloo, immortals and etc. When you take a map off fnatic in 2015 when they had 80% win rate on every map you already did better than any teams below the top ten. Unless the sickness is severe, it should not make a tier 1 team that just won Intel Extreme Masters Season XI Oakland lose a month later 16-2 against VEGA WHICH IS A TIER 4-5 TEAM.
2017-02-15 08:35
Pretty sure Vox was top 10 for a lil while right?
2017-02-15 12:06
#365
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Australia JoshHartSZN 
We might be second on the HDI, but a good percentage of Aussies are bogan dickheads so u shouldn't rly be surprised
2017-02-15 02:31
#370
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
LUL
2017-02-15 04:57
#393
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Australia TheHypics 
Fuck off this is not a place to write essays.
2017-02-15 10:36
"early rng and late vox was top ten." you have NO fucking clue what you're talking about.
2017-02-15 09:40
#392
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Australia RaginStarZ 
Maybe instead of calling someone a retard, prove me wrong
2017-02-15 09:50
#396
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Well you made the claim, back it up...
2017-02-15 11:24
#397
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Australia RaginStarZ 
"When you take a map off fnatic in 2015 when they had 80% win rate on every map you already did better than any teams below the top ten"
2017-02-15 11:27
#398
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
That doesn't mean they are top 10... Especially when better teams like CLG, Mousesports, TSM, Luminosity, Kinguin and Flipsid3 Tactics were not at the LAN. fnatic had a bad day, big deal and even then Vox barely scraped by, stop blowing smoke... They were Top 20 at best and got pan handled by Na'Vi at the same tournament, which was much much worse than fnatic at the time.
2017-02-15 11:59
#421
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Australia RaginStarZ 
just because tsm always got beaten by nip doesnt mean nip was a better team. same with vox and navi (even thou navi was better then vox, i am saying it just show that teams styles counters on another). why do you continue to down play vox ability to get a map off 2 tier 1 teams of the time. Especially when one of them was dominating pretty much every LAN.
2017-02-15 17:31
#423
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
You are so clueless. Never once was Vox top 10... at best 15th in the world. So many other teams were ahead of them. I listed them above but you seem to think some lucky best of one's means they suddenly become top 10.
2017-02-15 19:45
#426
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Australia RaginStarZ 
off course i'd be cluesless when you only listed 6 teams and expects me to figure out the rest in you top 15 ranking list. For all i know vega might be in there. working with the only shit you gave me. CLG wasnt even better then liquid and vox 2-0 them. flipsid3 got 16-2 by vox during the ESL One: Katowice 2015 event. I agree with kinguin being better. TSM (danish) was consistently top 10. mousesports during may 4th niko was a sub. legija, spiidi and denis still bottom frag. Luminosity didnt sign the ex-Keyd Stars players until after gfinity, which is the only good luminosity lineup to exist.
2017-02-15 20:06
#430
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
All the teams I listed were better than Vox at the time. CLG was easily better than Vox. Stop living in your pipe dream mate... Luminosity yes I mean Keys Stars but not many ppl remember that org so I just called them Luminosity. Either way there is no objective data based ranking from HLTV which showed Vox or RNG as a top 10 team. So nice try but their best position was 14th. Checkmate.
2017-02-15 22:26
#432
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Australia RaginStarZ 
CLG at the time was better? I believe we are talking about VOX peak at Gfinity Masters Spring 2 which is on the 15th of May 2015 right? CLG lost ptr on the 8th of May 2015 and jdm doesnt even join until June 2nd. CLG didnt even have 5 players to form a team at the time of VOX peak, so how can you even say CLG was a better team. Group A (fnatic, navi, vox and flipsid3) was definitely harder than Group C (NIP, Keyd Stars, CLG and HR) during ESL One: Katowice 2015. after a 2 month span VOX when from get destroyed 16-3 by the best team in the world to taking a map 16-13. Keyd Stars came first in 2 Brazilian only event. While CLG lost to Luminosity 2-0 at the ESEA Season 18 - Global Invite Division edit: keyd stars Keyd didnt even do anything notible besides getting a map of VP (eventhough keyd lost 2 maps 16-4 and 16-1 againist VP) who lost to fnatic 2-0
2017-02-15 22:55
#433
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
You lost long ago my friend. You have no objective data that shows Vox at a top 10 ranking. Sorry mate but unlike you I don't have blind national pride. Other aus siesta here have even agreed with me like st0nyyy. You'really just agreed moron. LUL
2017-02-15 22:55
#434
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Australia RaginStarZ 
no objective data? sorry buddy but a HLTV ranking system doesnt count. edit: you only rank teams due to results not how they achieve those results.
2017-02-15 22:58
#435
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Yes, because results are all that matters... If you always lose games 16-14, sorry but you're still a loser. Nothing changes that.
2017-02-15 23:09
#437
 | 
Australia RaginStarZ 
its not just about losing but how you lose. not just that but a tie on a bo2 against the best team in the world is still better than winning a tournament against tier 4 Brazilian teams
2017-02-15 23:15
#439
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Mate if you lose, you're a loser, by the objective definition, you're a loser. Vox were a bunch of losers, they never won a decent set of Best of Threes in a row against the Top 10 teams. They were not Top 10 EVER, end of story. You're delusional...
2017-02-15 23:16
#442
 | 
Australia RaginStarZ 
If winning a bo3 against a top 10 team is what it takes to become top 10 then all the examples you have given me for autumn 2015 were all shit. clg and keyd didnt even win a bo3 against top ten team at the time flipsid3 won a bo5 against navi but lost a week later against lgb and polish g2 teams that aint even top ten btw if we are using gfinity VOX then that must mean you cant use kinguin as an example because they didnt even play a lan event until after Vox peak
2017-02-15 23:30
#444
 | 
Australia KARMAAAYT 
"top 10 then all the examples you have given me for autumn 2015" I guess TSM are horrible right? Kappa You're a clueless moron, if you have a job that isn't laying bricks, quit now, you won't go far.
2017-02-15 23:32
#445
 | 
Australia RaginStarZ 
never said tsm was top ten and i even agreed with you on tsm.
2017-02-15 23:34
the cunt said that thoorins rankings mean something while hltvs have never meant anything... hes just a dumb cunt. leave him be. hes wrong and you're right. cant help people who dont want to be helped, after all.
2017-02-16 10:01
#456
 | 
Australia KARMAAAYT 
True
2017-02-16 10:11
LOL apparently they were top 10 because some fucking clueless analyst who only has credibility cuz hes been in the scene for 15 years means shit.
2017-02-16 09:57
#457
 | 
World Floodan 
Well r u gonna say whats wrong with the article or just call him a hack writer without anything to back it up
2017-02-16 10:33
one top 8 finish and one 9-16 finish doesnt mean they're top 10 LOL
2017-02-16 10:56
#459
 | 
World Floodan 
Yes it does? No one deserved it more at the time obviously, it even says that in the article, did you read it?
2017-02-16 11:31
finishing last at a major and a finish in quarters at an event that was a fluke is top 10. wow.
2017-02-16 11:57
#461
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World Floodan 
Yep, pretty much every team below them was in a slump, im sure their win over dignitas and 3dmax at the major qualifier also contributed
2017-02-16 11:58
anyway you're telling me that thoorin is more accurate than hltv? xd if vox played all the top 15 teams in bo3s they would win like max 3.
2017-02-16 12:00
#463
 | 
World Floodan 
Hltv rankings didnt exist like they do now at the time so thorins ranks were pretty much official give or take
2017-02-16 12:15
"pretty much offical" so what some ginger man thought about the csgo teams back then was official? xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
2017-02-16 12:16
lmfao
2017-02-14 16:45
#59
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Iceland xijmplr 
delpan never forget anyway
2017-02-14 16:45
ROFLMAO!!!!
2017-02-14 16:45
WTF!
2017-02-14 16:45
WTF
2017-02-14 16:45
What the hell is this? They are already at the DH tournament.
2017-02-14 16:45
lol wtf
2017-02-14 16:45
wtf lul
2017-02-14 16:45
wtf? why atter i mean, lol rickeh aimlock kicked him, kappa
2017-02-14 16:45
#71
Korea yuh 
rip the only aussie team LUL
2017-02-14 16:45
#72
k0nfig | 
Denmark s0MATiC 
lol
2017-02-14 16:45
unexpected
2017-02-14 16:45
Why rickeh????? Kick yam please
2017-02-14 16:46
#76
 | 
Myanmar de_insertion 
WHAT THE FUCK
2017-02-14 16:46
U WOT M8
2017-02-14 16:46
era only austriala is officialy ended
2017-02-14 16:46
#82
 | 
Europe tidiese 
swedish talent gonna make wonder in shit scene
2017-02-14 16:46
talent lul
2017-02-14 17:06
#259
 | 
Europe tidiese 
talent in shit scene, but average in sweden :)
2017-02-14 18:13
hahahha nice prediction, definitely a talent xDD
2017-03-21 04:14
Unexpected
2017-02-14 16:46
k actualy unexpected n1
2017-02-14 16:46
Wat? They kick their good awper...
2017-02-14 16:46
Weird decision I agree... I am not sure of the roles on Renegades currently but I know Yam liked to awp in the past perhaps there was internal issues due to dissatisfaction with his new role. The other fellas on RNG have been playing together a long time even though Rickeh is a great talent I just do not see AZR, USTILLO, and JKS betraying their mate Yam. Came down to politics and bad timing it seems, GL to Rickeh hes still a top awper just did not hit his peak while in NA.
2017-02-14 22:19
SWEDES INVADING AUSSIESS CS NOOOO
2017-02-14 16:46
unexpected af
2017-02-14 16:47
gl atter,good player
2017-02-14 16:47
#89
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Korea 2814 
Fucking surely rickeh has to join C9 or something??? This move makes no sense whatsoever.
2017-02-14 16:47
???? are you fuck you???
2017-02-14 16:47
#91
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Russia Itsme8989 
Wat. Top2 player of the team. WP.
2017-02-14 16:47
Wtf Rickeh was the best player of the team just kick yam pls
2017-02-14 16:47
jks is the best,but nt
2017-02-14 16:58
I mean Ricky is still a better awper than fooken yam
2017-02-14 16:59
true
2017-02-14 17:00
rickeh is waaay more consistent than jks and azr tho even with rifling
2017-02-14 17:38
#351
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Australia Smrfy 
This is how you identify someone that hasn't paid attention to RNG since early 2015 ^^^^ JKS inconsistent and Rickeh has been better in the short stint he has had.
2017-02-15 00:23
holy shit. you're probably the first smart aussie ive come across in this community. when the best player in rng discussion comes, everyone just says "JKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UR SILVER IF U DISAGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!" its sad because thats like 95% of the people that follow the team.
2017-02-15 09:38
#404
 | 
Australia Smrfy 
I mean JKS arguably is the most skilled player, but AZR consistently performed to a higher degree for a longer period of time. JKS jut had a higher peak. And Rickeh has been in good form since he joined so as of late he has been one of their MVP
2017-02-15 12:12
please never ever put azr and consistent in the same sentence again. hes the most inconsistent. what are u on about?
2017-02-16 09:53
He was consistently raping everyone for quite a while before Rickeh came in
2017-02-17 05:49
#94
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Slovakia VladO.  
unexpected xd
2017-02-14 16:48
Rickeh > yam
2017-02-14 16:48
wtf
2017-02-14 16:48
#97
lee_sb | 
United States treysek 
uh ok...
2017-02-14 16:48
#98
 | 
Canada kthxy0 
lmao they replace ricked with ahmed's friend wtf
2017-02-14 16:48
wtf
2017-02-14 16:48
#102
RpK | 
Germany lloyd6077 
he must cry of joy
2017-02-14 16:49
Pure yoy.
2017-02-14 17:31
why not kick yam? LUL
2017-02-14 16:49
Not expected.
2017-02-14 16:49
L U L
2017-02-14 16:49
I thought HLTV was trolling. I'm actually still not sure.
2017-02-14 16:50
#111
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Brazil Mag0o 
Rickeh >> botYam
2017-02-14 16:50
#282
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Sweden Trojka03 
Yeah this, not only is Rickeh one of their best if not best player while Yam has been horrible for the past 6 months, but Rickeh is also a way better awper than Yam. This is like getting rid of Australia's JW and letting Fifflaren handle the awp instead.
2017-02-14 18:56
Yam is igl so... Horrible analogy too
2017-02-15 07:55
#405
 | 
Australia Smrfy 
Fifflaren was the IGL too lol
2017-02-15 12:14
Nice bait
2017-02-15 13:15
#441
 | 
Australia Smrfy 
Not at all
2017-02-15 23:18
#416
 | 
Sweden Trojka03 
W/e he wasn't always the IGL it's not like they signed him from Immunity for his IGL skills.
2017-02-15 15:14
Which is even more reason to keep him as the current IGL because it's ridiculously hard to find an IGL in the oceanic scene that synergies well with the team. They might as well keep his and develop him farther as an IGL.
2017-02-16 02:46
#448
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Sweden Trojka03 
They are not in the Oceanic scene anymore tho, they live and play out of NA. Heck they even picked up an EU player.
2017-02-16 03:47
Theres even less IGLS in NA, common problem with that scene too. Edit: Maybe not less but very few available
2017-02-16 03:54
#112
HUNDEN | 
France b9dyk 
Is that because of the aimlock clip ? LUL
2017-02-14 16:50
#131
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India Reaper1 
This was the first thing that came to my mind aswell! VAC inc? :D Are they cleaning the scene behind the curtains? First subroza, then Rikeh! Whos next?
2017-02-14 16:54
link?
2017-02-14 17:32
The thing with the clip though is you can see he actually swiped to the right on his webcam too. The shaking was the only wtf thing their after I saw his video.
2017-02-14 18:57
Atter is an sooo shitty Player GG RNG
2017-02-14 16:50
#114
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Finland Keetahi 
So they kicked him cuz of aimlock accusations?
2017-02-14 16:50
why the fuck would you kick your best/2nd best player lmao
2017-02-14 16:51
Rickeh instead of yam/USTILO ? Team had personal issue with him 100%
2017-02-14 16:51
#284
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Sweden Trojka03 
100%, Ustilo is pretty good tho, Yam is the weak link.
2017-02-14 18:57
I think these are the roles : yam - igl/2nd awp rickeh - awp ustilo - entry jks - rifle azr - rifle Maybe they are thinking yam will igl and main awp and they need another stud rifler.
2017-02-14 23:47
XDDD WAT
2017-02-14 16:51
From the outside, I didn't think Rickeh was the problem with this lineup... or even close to being the problem. So hopefully there's some backroom shit going on. Unless atter starts calling for this team, they'll still be stuck in the same black-hole. Their T-sides have been pretty bad since YAM started calling, azr goes missing far too often, and much of their CT success comes from early-round aggression and catching the Terrorists off guard and changing the pace based off that. Weird. Rickeh is nuts.
2017-02-14 16:52
#130
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Exactly, Rickeh was easily better with AWP and rifle than Yam, it is something to do within the politics of the team, Yam would've been the first person I kicked on this team. Seems like he has some sort of power, either that or Rickeh left on his own accord, which I doubt.
2017-02-14 16:54
Wouldn't be surprised if we see Rickeh tryout for CLG. ... I still feel like SpunJ received a lot of unnecessary criticism near the end of his Renegades stint (edit: based on the same problems we are seeing now). Yam, when he AWPed, always had the problem of being too careless/aggressive with the AWP (re-peeking into riflers posted on Z on Cache doesn't work on LAN like it does online), or legit go missing in rounds and then spiral out of control the rest of the map (recall that whiff on Fugly at the Cluj qualifiers).
2017-02-14 17:04
wtffff
2017-02-14 16:52
#125
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Brazil DileBani 
2017 and people hunt for top place comments, LUL why atter though, i mean he is not a special player
2017-02-14 16:52
The only reason why this happened is that Rickeh is going to an NA team. Tisc tisc, CLG are looking for a player, why not pick up Rickeh, as he is in NA already.
2017-02-14 16:53
Why would he join a worse team tho? And also, the only good player in CLG is an AWPer already :D
2017-02-14 16:55
What do you mean join a worse team? If he gets kicked hes teamless, and it's not about the team being good. If he's willing to join CLG, then he'll do it. And who knows maybe CLG would become decent in NA once again. Wouldn't be the first time that 1 player makes the team great. Also CLG has money so they can really pay Rickeh to join them.
2017-02-14 17:03
IMO renegades plateaud and CLG can do a lot better with rickeh and kooster awping
2017-02-14 17:04
nahte is good
2017-02-15 11:11
#128
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Russia Sur10n 
WTF IS THIS?!!!!R U JOKING?!!!
2017-02-14 16:53
why dump Rickeh? Renegades LUL gl atter
2017-02-14 16:54
#132
 | 
Brazil TOP_PLAYER 
expected
2017-02-14 16:54
#133
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France France98123 
should take a french player, sweedish people are obviously bad at cs
2017-02-14 16:54
duhh, it's obviously because our English is better. ;>
2017-02-14 17:48
#134
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
fucking l o l
2017-02-14 16:55
#135
 | 
Russia Antist 
wh4t the f4k??
2017-02-14 16:55
wtf is this? :DDD just why
2017-02-14 16:55
#138
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Austria db42 
thats prolly one of the most stupid lineup changes i've seen in a while, prolly allready has a place in top5 of 2017, atleast based on individual skill... (or is rickeh joining TL/CLG?)
2017-02-14 16:55
#139
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Sweden godname 
LUL
2017-02-14 16:56
#140
NEO | 
Poland Tympanon 
WTF WHY they cut Rickeh and why they took atter hmmm intresting
2017-02-14 16:56
nice
2017-02-14 16:56
first subroza, now this teams are kicking their busted cheaters but still don't admit that they were cheating
2017-02-14 16:57
LULULUL, he was among the best players, probably second, maybe first and he gets kicked, ROLFMAOOOO!!
2017-02-14 16:57
#144
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Russia remdyx 
ofc they kicked Rickeh, because too many people seed this - clips.twitch.tv/rickehaus/SplendidGrassh..
2017-02-14 16:57
WTF o.o
2017-02-14 17:14
#195
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Russia remdyx 
its called cheats ;)
2017-02-14 17:14
I confess I had not seen this video! XD I'm feeling a ie user
2017-02-14 17:16
The shaking after was questionable but he actually flicked irl too. Check his hand.
2017-02-14 18:59
#379
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United Kingdom levymonsta 
+1 Thank god someone with brains
2017-02-15 08:13
HAHA what the actual fuck
2017-02-15 00:17
Wut...
2017-02-14 16:57
#153
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
I think that Rickey and Subroza leaving their teams is not random stuff. They might get caught for cheating.
2017-02-14 16:59
Subroza its not cheating,he's trash and like to troll plebs like u RNG had some personal issues with Rickeh
2017-02-14 17:02
#169
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
I think you're just a troll and skadoodle fan boy not me. Trash is your 2nd name. What issues they had with him?
2017-02-14 17:03
Right because people know every internal issue each team is having. Check ustilo's twitter.
2017-02-15 07:58
#408
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
I would like to see the specific reasons, not just like internal issues. I want to know more :/
2017-02-15 12:45
Nobody knows rofl that's why they're called internal issues cause they stay within the team.
2017-02-15 13:16
WTF
2017-02-14 17:00
#155
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Argentina roulettesoad 
it was because of the aim clip? LUL
2017-02-14 17:00
#157
steel | 
New Zealand TEEZY 
NICE MEME
2017-02-14 17:00
rip rickeh
2017-02-14 17:00
#160
 | 
Australia RaginStarZ 
the team didnt need another tier 2 player, they needed an igl -.-
2017-02-14 17:01
#180
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North America s1mpliquid 
atter tier 2? XD tier 2 player would be jw or lekro, even olofmeister nowadays, atter is more like tier 4
2017-02-14 17:05
#194
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Australia RaginStarZ 
trying to be nice ;)
2017-02-14 17:14
#431
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Norway throatslit 
have you ever seen atter play? He is very good, but I´m not quite sure how he´ll do vs tier 1-2 teams.
2017-02-15 22:36
#161
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
holy shit! unexpected!
2017-02-14 17:01
yolo?
2017-02-14 17:01
Rickeh didnt get kciked . he is tired of living in NA. He wants to go back AU and be with his family..thats it
2017-02-14 17:01
wtf lol
2017-02-14 17:02
#168
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Poland Spanksss 
i remember that rickeh was good awp'er
2017-02-14 17:02
#170
f0rest | 
Estonia Rebae 
wtf rickeh was good player imo
2017-02-14 17:03
Renegades the dumbest pieces of shit ever i fuckn swear m8
2017-02-14 17:04
wat...
2017-02-14 17:04
#175
LUq | 
Poland dnbk1ng 
wtf unexpected
2017-02-14 17:04
Maybe it was because he is toxic racist? twitter.com/Rickehcsgo/status/8288535783.. xDDD
2017-02-14 17:04
#320
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United Kingdom DarkOmen 
Not really racist. If someone called me a wigger i'd shrug it off because it means nothing.
2017-02-14 22:33
yes but no one who says "wigger" doesnt also say "nigger", if that makes sense.
2017-02-14 22:35
#438
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Australia Smrfy 
What? How on earth do you reach that conclusion. It literally means nothing rofl
2017-02-15 23:15
because wigger = white nigger Why would someone say "wigger" if they don't also say the other version as well? Even just saying wigger implies it is a white person acting like a "nigger"
2017-02-15 23:16
#443
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Australia Smrfy 
Your last line is a valid point. But there is literally no way to prove that someone who says wigger is going to drop n bombs. "Why would someone say "wigger" if they don't also say the other version as well?" Because they know saying it would land them in a shit load of trouble? Or maybe because literally everyone can use slurs directed at themselves but its inappropriate to target other groups. (See: Gay people call each other queer but you don't see them walking around saying Gook or tranny) Ur kinda just clutching at straws and making a baseless claim. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I am just saying that its not a common, general phenomena.
2017-02-15 23:32
Eh, my original comment just said "maybe" and wasn't really meant to be taken that serious But yeah, you're right. My original comment just got autism-ed from joke to retarded racism debate xd
2017-02-15 23:36
bye major
2017-02-14 17:05
#182
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
what?
2017-02-14 17:07
#183
 | 
Asia CA1MAN 
Wtf hahahaha
2017-02-14 17:08
#184
HUNDEN | 
Bangladesh ToRu 
WTF
2017-02-14 17:09
What?
2017-02-14 17:10
WTF????
2017-02-14 17:10
o.o WHAT?
2017-02-14 17:12
#191
 | 
Brazil 16|0 
rickeh was the problem
2017-02-14 17:12
#192
 | 
Sweden 4Sweeeden 
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WTF???
2017-02-14 17:12
hahahahaha
2017-02-14 17:16
atter? why atter lol, literally the most random change ever
2017-02-14 17:16
WHAT THE FUCK AHAHAHAHAHAHA RICKEH 4Head WAS 4Head THE 4Head PROBLEM 4Head
2017-02-14 17:17
Rickeh was cheating sooo...
2017-02-14 17:17
poorly written article.
2017-02-14 17:18
Are they bootcamping together? Where?
2017-02-14 17:18
na teams getting tier 3 swedes pls why? xd
2017-02-14 17:18
#214
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Well actually Team Denial with Maxie is doing good (Google the team)
2017-02-14 17:28
losing to shit teams like clg and complexity isnt good tbh xd
2017-02-14 19:14
#293
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
Im not saying Denial is a Tier 2-3 team, but they are actually not a bad team, Its obv that CLG and Complex is better, they had much more pracc and played against better teams. Also Denial switched some players not long ago (-SKYTTEN -Spitfire +Maxie +Fejtz, they only played 11 maps together)
2017-02-14 19:19
well id laugh but tbh that team has been a corpse floating in the water for such a long time now that it really doesnt matter.
2017-02-14 17:18
#207
swag | 
Latvia `DinGo 
Hmm okay
2017-02-14 17:21
#208
NiKo | 
Albania swikzie 
what?
2017-02-14 17:22
Rickeh was the only one who was playing in this shit team, fuck renegades
2017-02-14 17:23
RICKEH AND JKS WERE THE BEST PLAYERS GUYS PLS
2017-02-14 17:27
#212
s1mple | 
Sweden DiTzZ 
Why -Rickeh? He was probably their best player alongside jks
2017-02-14 17:28
#213
 | 
Australia Australis 
lol, aussies have some decent players on their scene, why they didn't pick up raz,emagine or even this mongol erkast instead of atter?
2017-02-14 17:28
Seems like Renegades wants to keep sinking after reaching rock bottom. Yam must have forced this kick so he can get to his average awping
2017-02-14 17:29
waow unexpected
2017-02-14 17:30
LOL BOT :D
2017-02-14 17:31
#221
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Yugoslavia BuddDwyer 
whaaat
2017-02-14 17:33
#223
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
Why rickeh? AZR should have been removed lol
2017-02-14 17:34
AZR? not bot yam?
2017-02-14 17:35
#230
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
AZR chokes too hard though -yam +dexter tbh would be a good move
2017-02-14 17:38
AZR is much better than yam
2017-02-14 18:15
#299
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
both suck dick in big games
2017-02-14 20:53
#406
 | 
Australia Smrfy 
You only been watching a few months? AZR hard carried for ages, JKS was always the better player who never showed up.
2017-02-15 12:14
#422
nukkye | 
Australia riotbz 
Do you think Skadoodle is still the best awper in the world, too? It's been months since AZR could actually show up. jks' playstyle almost prevents him from hard carrying.
2017-02-15 17:45
#436
 | 
Australia Smrfy 
Good performance a few months ago is still relevant to the discussion so the "Hurr durr Skadoodle hasnt been good for two years" rhetoric doesn't serve your point that well.
2017-02-15 23:13
rickeh was on the gear
2017-02-14 17:34
Swede joining an Aussie team? wot? can they even understand our slang and accents?
2017-02-14 17:35
ofc they can, it's not that hard lol
2017-02-14 17:36
just throw a "cunt" after each sentence for good measure and you're set
2017-02-14 17:39
deadset
2017-02-14 17:50
#232
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Europe potatomato 
Nice.
2017-02-14 17:38
#235
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Australia SHAMALOV 
its all because Rickeh was using cheats playing ESEA Rank S
2017-02-14 17:40
#236
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Faroe Islands shubaNNN 
wtf is this lineup
2017-02-14 17:41
A swede with the Aussies? Well why the fuck not! GL!
2017-02-14 17:42
WTF BOOOOOOOOM
2017-02-14 17:42
SWEDS ARE INVADING AUSS! :X
2017-02-14 17:43
#241
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CIS sergioff 
rickeh was their best player lmao
2017-02-14 17:44
jisses, gl atter!
2017-02-14 17:47
#244
nukkye | 
United States yvr 
LOL Literally the most surprising thing today
2017-02-14 17:49
#246
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Croatia mds818 
Rickeh is the problem while yam and azr are performing like shit,fine.
2017-02-14 17:49
atter: JKS yump! yump! jks: M8 WTF ARE U SAYING?! noh8 gl renegades :)
2017-02-14 17:49
inzein
2017-02-14 17:49
#249
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Canada KawaiiKai 
???
2017-02-14 17:50
#250
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Bulgaria bUHALOVIC 
Wasnt Rickeh their best player? Wtf?
2017-02-14 17:50
#252
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United Kingdom Georgebaii 
no spunj no win
2017-02-14 17:53
wtf
2017-02-14 17:59
This has got to be an early April fools prank or something. What the fuck
2017-02-14 18:05
xDDDDDDD
2017-02-14 18:14
#262
Sf | 
Turkmenistan Autista 
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxxaxaxaxaxaxaxxa
2017-02-14 18:15
wtf. they are australian squad
2017-02-14 18:18
just stupid move from renegades. either its their management fault or some internal problem, but rickeh is their best player at that time. and why dont they remove yam instead of rickeh? this guy has lost his prime
2017-02-14 18:18
I hope for Renegades that this is indeed a joke because removing Rickeh is just absolutely ridiculous
2017-02-14 18:20
atter is a good player imo , why u guys hate him ?
2017-02-14 18:22
hes not bad, its just the fact that hes coming in infront of a better player
2017-02-15 09:32
who and why? rip Renegades [*]
2017-02-14 18:24
axaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxax
2017-02-14 18:24
#271
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Bulgaria Pixeland 
BB Ricardo "cheater" Mulholland
2017-02-14 18:25
Wow
2017-02-14 18:26
original team with spunj was best
2017-02-14 18:32
#274
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
Agree. But Spunj don't want to play. Imagine spunj with old vox vibe. :/
2017-02-14 18:37
ye with kassad as coach helping him too that would be very good. i dont think a team with both yam and rickeh works because both are primary awpers and suck with rifles, personally id have spunj, azr, jks, rickeh, ustilo or maybe replace ustilo with the best up a coming prospect in aus, they could be a good team azr and jks are very good players
2017-02-14 18:58
#296
SPUNJ | 
Latvia XYPyra 
And if you allow Spunj to get hyped, then it's better for rng, because one interview Spunj said that he's playing at his best when he is hyped up. But other teammates didn't like that. :/
2017-02-14 20:39
#312
n2g | 
United States n2g 
spunj, azr, jks, rickeh, ustilo for sure is the way to go, even if it was -yam +atter it would be half understandable
2017-02-14 21:54
hell yeah. vox FTW
2017-02-14 18:54
#275
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Brazil XEMBAO 
what a joke hahahaha nj renegades
2017-02-14 18:38
#276
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United States LDK_ 
Stupid NA Teams trying to get EU to carry
2017-02-14 18:38
#277
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Sweden Flukey 
They probably found his gear, and get kicked. If thats the case then good, we dont need cheaters in the scene. Also, cya subroza.
2017-02-14 18:45
what a stupid move from renegades... + spunj even if he is retired they gonna be good with him always..
2017-02-14 18:48
#286
xeta | 
United Kingdom Lonom8 
RIP HAHAHAHA
2017-02-14 18:58
#290
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Australia Duncecone 
^ cuz fuck logic
2017-02-14 19:05
#294
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Europe MrMalisz 
lmao wtf?!
2017-02-14 20:14
#295
Xyp9x | 
Denmark STATiC^ 
Lmao Rickeh is their best player by far! :D Gl RNG you gonna need it hahaha atter? hahahaha.
2017-02-14 20:28
#298
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Myanmar AstralisGoat 
This is a new low for Swedish CS
2017-02-14 20:46
im actually fucking finished "failed to perform to their levels"? such a stupid idea to drop him... azr is playing the worst but uknow. LUL
2017-02-14 21:00
#301
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Australia aucs 
Rickeh probably got a big offer from clg and left.
2017-02-14 21:02
#325
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Australia Smrfy 
apoc says he isn't leaving to an NA team (as of rn)
2017-02-14 22:41
H0ly $hit
2017-02-14 21:05
another team needing a eu to be their carry
2017-02-14 21:07
rickeh is going to another team lol no way they'd remove him
2017-02-14 21:07
#306
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Finland QLLI 
this lineup makes no sense
2017-02-14 21:18
#307
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Australia Mr.Sinister 
@gomez any news, other than hltv news? Can you shed more light?
2017-02-14 21:24
#308
ropz | 
Estonia Carlisl3 
JKS and AZR really need to get out of that team and try to join an NA team. OpTic: -Hiko +jks Liquid: -nitr0/Pimp +AZR
2017-02-14 21:30
#310
n2g | 
United States n2g 
No, they just need to replace yam with a proper IGL
2017-02-14 21:50
#347
ropz | 
Estonia Carlisl3 
I honestly don't think that will do anything. There are no IGLs in the area that can also frag at a level that could make them be in contention for a top 10 team. If jks or AZR want to do anything with their careers, I think they will have to move on from Renegades and try their hand on some NA teams. I'm just some random HLTV pleb, so I what do I know lol.
2017-02-15 00:13
#311
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Australia jobione 
What the fuck
2017-02-14 21:50
#315
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Australia fittabraaa 
"the best-rated player of qwerty" seems legit
2017-02-14 22:16
Wtf LOL, They should kick yam, he is garbage, not Rickeh, lol, renegades is really a shittie team.
2017-02-14 22:21
#318
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Sweden crindz 
atter is much better than rickeh so quit the shenanigans plebs
2017-02-14 22:25
#324
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Australia Smrfy 
This lineup wasn't given LITERALLY the opportunity of a life time so we could cheer for swedes.
2017-02-14 22:39
#332
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Sweden crindz 
you get it, i can tell
2017-02-14 23:15
What the actual fuck... They should have at least got an up and coming Oceanic star in like Gratisfaction or something...
2017-02-14 22:26
#321
n2g | 
United States n2g 
Dude no ... If anything replace yam with a proper IGL
2017-02-14 22:35
WTF... Remove your second best player instead of a washed up IGL...
2017-02-14 22:36
+11111111111111111111
2017-02-15 09:27
#326
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Vietnam piem0l 
atter has huge talent. you know you you seen him play in tornado. beside this who doesnt want to go down under for a good amount of time :D
2017-02-14 22:44
#328
device | 
Israel Aarod 
-atter +Maikelele
2017-02-14 22:52
I guess cheat was real
2017-02-14 23:01
unexpected for me at least I thought Rickeh was doing fine
2017-02-14 23:36
Hah. Let's see if Rickeh is going to join another team soon or wat. He's been sick in rank S, but maybe he's on the gear boisssss
2017-02-14 23:50
My bet is clg or another NA org bought him out effective immediately. If that's the case gl Rick.
2017-02-15 00:03
#349
aurora | 
Australia omag 
Infrequent will be joing rng calling it
2017-02-15 00:16
hope he does. he main awps and -yam +liazz. theres no point rotating the same players around so might aswell pick up some fresh aussies, since they havent done shit in 2 years
2017-02-15 09:26
wut? atter is shit.
2017-02-15 00:30
#356
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Australia sini_ 
Holy shit, so sad for Rickeh. Hope he gets picked up from a decent org. I dont understand what RNG are doing.
2017-02-15 01:39
apparently there were problems or something between him and the team
2017-02-15 04:21
This in-house crap is bad for the team. I hope it doesn't kill whatever little bit aussie teams have going for them.
2017-02-15 08:37
atter is a decent t2 player but what the fuck? lol
2017-02-15 01:42
#364
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Australia yourwombat 
wat
2017-02-15 02:28
#366
Friis | 
Canada uhJake 
Rickeh was dirty imo
2017-02-15 03:37
Not sure what to think of this. atter is a very talented player and I mean no disrespect to the Aussies but I think he could have joined a better team.
2017-02-15 04:03
rng want to lose thats the problem
2017-02-15 07:10
People really don't realize how important in game leaders are now with the new coaching rule.
2017-02-15 08:02
hahaahah
2017-02-15 08:44
I'll miss you Rickeh, love the stream too
2017-02-15 09:01
what if they found out rickeh was cheating? this makes no sense at all. hes been their arguably their best players since hes landed. hes a beast with rifles and especially the awp. -yam +atter? there has to be a viable reason behind this, this makes no sense at all. its like navi cutting s1mple.
2017-02-15 09:24
What are you smoking buddy? There's internal issues in the team, so he was cut.
2017-02-15 12:09
+1 people looking too far into it, issues were had, changes were made. I think Rickeh is hot property right now, a solid awper, very good movement and gamesense.
2017-02-15 12:16
clg for sure yeh
2017-02-15 10:47
Thanks for the carry Sweden, we'll take flusha as well and time for Rickeh to join C9.
2017-02-15 12:08
#402
malta | 
Malta vfXy0 
RIP Aussie scene Yam is dogshit and so is atter so RIP
2017-02-15 12:09
#411
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Malaysia phyzell 
Renegades need an in-game 'attitude' changer like Zeus that can also predict every player's level of strength/weaknesses during a match. Thus, Renegades need to find a new in-game leader making correct strat-calls. And Rickeh going back to the Australian scene, a good inspiration for upgrading everyone's charisma.
2017-02-15 13:26
#412
Xyp9x | 
Romania Old_Guy 
Should've replaced AZR imo, he's been below average lately. yam is at least an igl.
2017-02-15 13:30
its all bout the money
2017-02-15 13:54
Oh yeah don't kick Yam, kick one of your two best players KMS
2017-02-15 16:29
#424
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United Kingdom drunkdwarf99 
He was literally cheating...it was a move by the organisation. Just look at the clip.
2017-02-15 19:46
O M F G. Kick flusha then, kick shox he aimlocked thru walls before, you know what whyll your at it kick k0nfig he aimlocked with a deag on cache and also kick f0rest in 2015 vs fnatic matchpoint on cache and get rid of skyten. Fucking hell
2017-02-16 04:07
#465
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United Kingdom drunkdwarf99 
Listen mate, I am a fan of Renegades. I liked Rickeh and he was without a doubt the second best, maybe even the best player on the team. But that one clip was horrendous.
2017-02-16 17:27
HE DIDNT EVEN LOCK ANYWHERE NEAR THE PLAYER LOL.
2017-02-16 21:22
#467
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United Kingdom drunkdwarf99 
Okay...
2017-02-16 21:39
#420
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Finland ginbay 
wtf is this bs
2017-02-15 17:27
atter really wanted to own a kangaroo in his life
2017-02-15 19:48
#471
NiKo | 
France Meduza 
wHY COMPLAIN? atter has highest rating. BEST CHOICE. Bye.
2017-02-17 14:29
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