VP win DreamHack Masters Las Vegas

Professeur
February 20th, 2017 06:23

Virtus.pro win DreamHack Masters Las Vegas with a 2-1 victory over SK (8-16 Cobblestone, 16-11 Train, 16-13 Mirage)!

The grand final of DreamHack Masters Las Vegas kicked off on Virtus.pro's comfort pick, Cobblestone, as the Polish side picked up another pistol round starting on the CT side. However, the anti-eco rounds have been a struggle for Filip "NEO" Kubski and co. and it proved to be a problem on Cobblestone once again as they were unable to secure the following round.

After the Brazilian side took over the lead, Janusz "Snax" Pogorzelski and Wiktor "TaZ" Wojtas combined to clutch a 2v3 retake on B, but they once again struggled to string rounds together, losing a round to a low-buy SK shortly after to make it 5-4. Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo got an spectacular AWP pick on Jarosław "pashaBiceps" Jarząbkowski through a smoke and a wall to set his team up for another well executed B push and SK furthered their lead on the Terrorist side of Cobblestone.

It was 9-4 before SK stopped abusing B and finally hit A, trading Snax effectively and getting another round on the board, but the Polish star replied in the following round with a beautiful AWP 4k on B to finish the half 10-5.

The second half started great for SK, with Fernando "fer" Alvarenga pushing mid to flank Virtus.pro's B site pistol offensive, picking up two kills for his efforts. As their force buy attempts were unsuccsessful, Cobblestone was quickly out of Virtus.pro's hands and SK closed out the map 16-8—before the plow could be fully activated.


Pasha wasn't able to keep up his form from eariler in the tournament

Virtus.pro continued their trend of starting CT, winning the pistol and then losing the following round on SK's pick, Train. fallen's side cleaned up the anti-eco's and went up 3-1 off the back of that before they reset the economy of Virtus.pro by losing a close round and winning the subsequent one.

The Poles tied the score 6-6 thanks to some vintage play from Snax who was shutting down everyone trying to approach A, and with the economy finally going their way, the Poles took over the lead and finished the CT half 9-6 up.

The second pistol round went the way of SK and they tied the score 9-9, but only shortly, as Virtus.pro took the lead starting with the following gun round.

With the score 10-9, SK took down both Terrorist players in a 2v2 on B, but Snax's molotov denied the defuse and forced the Brazilians to eco. That small break was enough for Virtus.pro to take over the map and close it out 16-11 in the end. 


SK couldn't close out Mirage in the end

Another CT start and pistol round for Virtus.pro followed on Mirage, but the Polish squad finally managed to follow that round up with a clean anti-eco win. Marcelo "coldzera" David showed up in the first buy round with four kills to get SK on board, but his team was reset in the following one—courtesy of two crucial AWP picks from Snax.

João "felps" Vasconcellos continued to make his signature Mirage plays, putting pressure on the window room area and causing problems for the Virtus.pro. In round nine, he found the right timing and backstabbed the B site defenders as SK gained momentum on the Terrorist side. From 6-2 down, the Brazilians got to an 8-7 lead before the end of the first half with the slow, mid-control default being their weapon of choice.

The pistol round and the UMP and Tec-9 force-buy both went the way of SK as they went 11-7 up on the CT side. Virtus.pro secured a single gun round, the teams traded a few back in forth but it was the Poles to grab the momentum and tie the score 12-12.

SK had an opportunity to get the control of the match back, but TaZ's 1v2 clutch that made it 13-13 and break the economy of FalleN's team. From that point onwards, Virtus.pro powered on and closed Mirage out 16-13 to win the series 2-1 and take the title at DreamHack Masters Las Vegas 2017!

Key Moment: On the final map of the series, 13-12 down, TaZ clutched a 1v2 that looked unwinnable for the Poles and broke SK's economy, allowing his team to close out the map, series—and the tournament.

PotM: In a tight competition, Filip "NEO" Kubski takes the PotM award due to his exceptional play on the final map, that was the tightest of the three, as well as high impact which could be seen through his first kill differential.

Matchpage
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1
20th February 2017
Brazil
16
Train
11
16
Mirage
13

 Virtus.pro K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
Poland Filip 'NEO' KubskiNEO 55 - 56 -1 82.8 1.16
Poland Janusz 'Snax' PogorzelskiSnax 59 - 53 +6 76.1 1.10
Poland Paweł 'byali' Bielińskibyali 58 - 55 +3 85.8 1.09
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' WojtasTaZ 49 - 57 -8 65.7 0.92
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' JarząbkowskipashaBiceps 49 - 59 -10 70.4 0.90
 SK K - D +/- ADR Rating 2.0
Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' Davidcoldzera 77 - 52 +25 99.0 1.36
Brazil Fernando 'fer' Alvarengafer 63 - 54 +9 89.5 1.29
Brazil João 'felps' Vasconcellosfelps 69 - 61 +8 97.9 1.22
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' ToledoFalleN 33 - 51 -18 51.6 0.79
Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de MeloTACO 38 - 53 -15 49.6 0.78

Final standings for DreamHack Masters Las Vegas:

1. Poland Virtus.pro - $200,000
2. Brazil SK - $100,000
3-4. Denmark Astralis - $25,000
3-4. Denmark North - $25,000
5-8. Kazakhstan Gambit - $15,000
5-8. CIS Natus Vincere - $15,000
5-8. Europe mousesports - $15,000
5-8. Sweden NiP - $15,000
9-12. United States Cloud9 - $5,000
9-12. Europe FaZe - $5,000
9-12. Sweden fnatic - $5,000
9-12. United States OpTic - $5,000
13-16. Australia Renegades - $5,000
13-16. China TYLOO - $5,000
13-16. North America compLexity - $5,000
13-16. United States Misfits - $5,000

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Brazil Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Marcelo 'coldzera' David
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
927
KPR:
0.80
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.12
Poland Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Wiktor 'TaZ' Wojtas
Age:
32
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1578
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Brazil João 'felps' Vasconcellos
João 'felps' Vasconcellos
Age:
21
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
619
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.16
Poland Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Filip 'NEO' Kubski
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.98
Maps played:
1592
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.17
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
973
KPR:
0.71
DPR:
0.59
APR:
0.11
Brazil Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Fernando 'fer' Alvarenga
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
969
KPR:
0.77
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.16
Poland Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Janusz 'Snax' Pogorzelski
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1371
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Poland Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Jarosław 'pashaBiceps' Jarząbkowski
Age:
30
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
1537
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.13
#1
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United States LiquiddZ 
Finally VP win an event! After so many finals :D
2017-02-20 06:24
HOW
2017-02-20 06:24
#35
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
VP got to choose side on 3 out of 3 maps, not to mention all the luck plays that they had on Mirage feel like Sk got robbed there.
2017-02-20 06:24
>sk >robbed xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-02-20 06:26
#81
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
so you don't think that letting a team choose side on all of the maps is unfair?
2017-02-20 06:27
sk should have won knife rounfs then
2017-02-20 06:31
#104
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
no, there should be Knife rounds only on the decider map, so what happened here doesn't happen, a team gettin to choose side on all of the maps.
2017-02-20 06:32
That's why we have knife rounds in the first place. Just like we have pistol rounds to decide who gets rifles and nice guns first
2017-02-20 06:35
#121
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
no usually the way it goes down is like that, a team picks a map and the other team gets to pick the side and knife round for decider, in this series VP got to pick the side in all of the maps.
2017-02-20 06:37
#133
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
My argument is, that if SK truly is the better team, then they would be able to win on their best side of their map. Or rather, they should be able to be competitive on both sides of their map, regardless of whether they get to choose or not.
2017-02-20 06:41
#137
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
<3 FuckSK i see how you're not biased at all, i wonder if it was the other way around and SK got to choose the side on all 3 maps, i bet that there would be hundreds of threads complaining about it, but since its SK lets just look the other way. regardless of the teams playing a team should never be able to choose side on all maps of the series, the X team pick map and Y team choose side with the knife round for decider has been used since forever and works just fine so no reason to change it.
2017-02-20 06:45
This is precisely how SK beat VP at cologne,got to choose sides,won all pistols. Anyone can say "had x happened,y would win"
2017-02-20 06:48
#152
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Look for SK's first tournament with felps, they did good. Just because I hate SK doesn't mean I won't give them credit, but VP was clearly the better team here today. Plus, if it came down to knife rounds people would complain then too, because if their team never wins a knife round they will claim it's still unfair, like you just did. If you get to pick people will still complain. I don't really care, but you need to realise that if SK were truly good on the map then they would be able to have a good score regardless of which side they start on. It only makes sense... Or at the very least they should be able to win the map on their preferred side. If they lose, then they lost fair and square, they can only blame themselves for not winning enough rounds, because they simply did not do good enough. Attack me all you want, but VP deserved this win and SK did good but they weren't the best team playing today, VP was. End of story.
2017-02-20 06:51
#156
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
"clearly the better team here today" not sure about that, if wasn't for that TaZ 1v2 4hp clutch when VP was about to be broken i'm pretty sure that SK would take it. btw the only reason on why i'm complaining its because its not usual seeing knife rounds for first and second map, usually Y team picks a map and X teams picks the side, and they think that knife rounds are so irrelevant that they wont even show it on screen but knife rounds can be huge while you get to start at a favorable side.
2017-02-20 06:55
#158
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Australia KARMAAAYT 
Well when SK lost to Taz in that situation, well they can only blame themselves. Taz played that situation better than SK did and deserves to win the round. Hence why VP was the better team.
2017-02-20 06:56
#163
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
you can't say that VP was clearly better tho, it was anything but clear, i mean just check the match post stats, SK players ended up that series with better ratios than VP players i.imgur.com/EXxFTen.png
2017-02-20 06:58
Jesus you are so butthurt it is painful to read. First idiot to say a team won unfair after full bo3.
2017-02-20 07:45
#203
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
yea, VP being allowed to choose side in all the maps that they played against Astralis and against SK isn't unfair at all, i mean, they got to start on the side that they wanted in 6 (SIX) maps in a row, if you don't think that is unfair then you must be a blind fanboy.
2017-02-20 07:47
If SK feel the rules is unfair, might as well skip the event then. Thanks God they have true sportsmanship, unlike you haha
2017-02-20 07:50
It would be unfair if the sides were picked randomly by your mom, picking balls of the glass bowl with a teams name on them. Until you find a better way to pick the sides, teach sk to knife better.
2017-02-20 07:53
#210
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
there is a better way to pick sides you dumb fuck, the way that most of tourneys do it, if you choose the map the enemy team will choose the side, with knife round for the decider map, its simple and fair.
2017-02-20 07:54
Than you have goal in life. Become ceo of dreamhack and make all the rules you want so sk can win. There is a saying that solves your misery: Dont hate the player, hate the game. VP did everything within the rules, they won besides loosing tons of forcebuys and there will always bitch like you appear pointing at the least relevant part of the game. Just stfu.
2017-02-20 08:02
#216
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
i don't actually give a fuck if SK won or not i'm just mad about VP getting to choose the side on 6 maps in a row semi finals against Astralis and finals against SK
2017-02-20 08:04
Does picking a side requires skill or its being given by rng? Why you constantly ignore the fact that vp won all the fuckn knife rounds? How ignorant can you be man?
2017-02-20 08:07
#220
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
because Knife rounds are the most random thing? knife rounds are so random that they don't even show it on stream and the outcome of those rounds can have huge effect at a match, i'm just being reasonable. dreamhack should have done like all the other tourneys and let the team that didn't choose the map pick the side and knife if needed for decider that would be the better way that they could do it which is fair for both teams.
2017-02-20 08:11
If you win 6 knife rounds its a slight suggestion a given team is just good at it. Anyway, have fun with your problems kiddo.
2017-02-20 08:15
Perhaps if they won it 6 time in a row it has something to do with their knife skills? It's exactly like saying : "SK won 4 pistols round in a row but pistols round are totally random" : perfect nonsense. I guess u never played competitive cs to claim that knife is random.
2017-02-21 03:21
Expect they didnt get to just "choose". Both sides played a knife round with the exact same health. DH didnt just say "OK VP NOW DID EVERYTHING SO U HAVE THE ADVANTAGE SO SK WILL LOSE". Also dont give me that most tornys do it a certain way shit, cuz this torny dont have one 2 min timeout and coaches always being able to communicate, but u dont talk about that because those helo SK rather then hinder them, and they much more influencely on the game theb a knkfe round
2017-02-21 19:49
If CS is all about kill and shoot, the majors would be played in deathmatch mode.
2017-02-20 07:48
I get what you're saying and even partly agree. but you should know better that stats don't matter. the only thing that matters are rounds. VP don't always have flashy plays, but they manage to take the rounds that matter.
2017-02-20 09:02
#300
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Europe duke` 
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2017-02-20 17:01
Dude, if you go back and look at this post you'll see how stupid you sound. Hopefully. If you need a little help, here. "Clearly the better team here today." Not sure about that taz..." who is on the team that won! Then you go on to talk about that individual play like it proves your point. It doesn't, in fact it makes you look very dumb. VP were the better team today, I know because they won. If SK had one, they would have been the better team. Do you see how that works?
2017-02-20 15:18
This makes no sence considering that SK won VPs map...they would have the same sides for the maps they won
2017-02-20 19:19
#123
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Sweden mlns 
This is a flawed theory, as almost all maps have an inherent CT advantage.
2017-02-20 06:37
That is why we have knife rounds to decide what sides one starts on.
2017-02-20 06:47
#316
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Sweden mlns 
But then there's a chance that one team wins all the knives. It's easier to just have one knife round for first map, and whoever didn't start as CT, starts as CT on the next map
2017-02-21 09:08
Yes 50-50 chance,best odds possible.
2017-02-21 16:43
If you think that the reason SK lost is due to them not getting to choose sides then you are fking retarded, you should obviously be able to play both sides well whether or not you start on the favourable side. If you simply don't play one side as well as the other team then you don't deserve to win.
2017-02-20 06:57
#165
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
so basically you are saying that choosing sides give no advantage at all? are you that dumb? let me give you an example, lets say that there's 2 teams with about the same amount of skill at NUKE, X team starts at CT side and they get 11 rounds, then Y team starts on CT side down 11-4, Y team will be playing under the pressure of being behind which will for sure effect on how they will play the half, because they know that they can't make mistakes, they may not do the agressive plays that they would if they started on the better side. that's why i think that letting a team choose side on all 3 maps is completely bullshit.
2017-02-20 07:05
No, can you fucking read? Of course it can have an impact but saying SK simply lost due to the fact that they didn't get to choose on the favourable side is fucking retarded, just like I said. It can have an impact but the reason that you lose is due to the fact that the other team played better than you, you still have the exact same chance to do the same thing as your opponents did when you switch sides. And if the fact was that getting to choose sides was extremely favourable then SK should've simply won more knife rounds, I mean knife rounds are a bit random but still.
2017-02-20 07:06
#175
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
can you fuckin read tho? i never said that they lost because of that, i said that it was unfair and could have an effect in the way that they played. and again i already explained above on how it could effect a team, having your backs at the wall while you're playing from behind isn't the same thing as playing the better side while you are ahead. plus i just can't understand the reason on why would dreamhack make the 3 maps decided by knife rounds and not even show it on stream if the old system that has been aplied to pretty much every tourney was working just fine.
2017-02-20 07:12
Yea, i didn't see the Nuke part since you edited it in. I didn't take what you wrote in as ''it could've had an impact'' ''VP got to choose side on 3 out of 3 maps, not to mention all the luck plays that they had on Mirage feel like Sk got robbed there'' That sounds like the reason SK lost and got ''robbed'' was due to luck plays and not getting to choose sides, not that it ''could've'' had an impact. And its not like they got to choose sides for no reason, they simply won all the knife rounds so they deserved it. And I don't see the argument here of starting on favourable side having such a big impact, especially since even though VP started on the favourable sides they had pretty poor sides and came back on the less favourable one, so how the hell is that a solid argument for how it was ''unfair'' They got 5, 9 and then 7 rounds on the favourable sides and mananged to play really solid on the other side to win. It would've been a different story if they got 11-12 rounds each time but It is still 100% fair imo because each team have the same chances and these are top level teams who should have the ability to do comebacks on the favourable side, its not like some tier 3 team who just gives up on the game after they're down 7 rounds after the first half and move onto the favourable side, a part of being an amazing team like these two is having the ability to not give up and continue to fight whatever the scoreline is.
2017-02-20 07:25
#189
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
no, its not 100% fair, teams should be playing at exactly same conditions, there shouldn't be a way for a team to be able to choose sides on all maps of a series, plus VP also got to choose the sides on all maps that they played against Astralis in the semi finals, idk how people still think that it was fair.
2017-02-20 07:28
They don't ''get to'' choose sides, they win the knife rounds. The knife rounds are not a coin flip, if the teams also thought the knife rounds were so damn important then maybe they should implement tactics into them. Maybe that is what VP has done and therefor they win all these knife rounds and do deserve to choose sides, how about that? They do have the same conditions, getting to play as many rounds at the opposite team on each side = 100% equal, its just this ''momentum'' thing that is implemented that make you think that it has a huge impact, the teams (not any that I know of, just you who brings it up as a big issue) who struggle to win as many rounds as their opponents on the favourable side just because they're down should work on fixing that issue in their heads rather than blaming that the other team had ''momentum'' after first side and therefor won because if they do not play as well on each side as their opponent they do not deserve the victory and this momentum thing is something that is in your head and not a part of it being a fair game or not, if its an issue for you then its up to you to fix it.
2017-02-20 07:39
#214
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
" The knife rounds are not a coin flip, if the teams also thought the knife rounds were so damn important then maybe they should implement tactics into them" teams don't need to practice knife rounds because like i already said a thousand times but it seems like people on this forum doesn't know how to read THIS ISN'T THE SYSTEM USED IN MOST TOURNEYS, USUALLY THE TEAM THAT PICKS THE MAP DONT GET TO CHOOSE THE SIDE there i pretty sure that you can see it now. plus playing with momentum is a huge thing, even the most experienced teams out there crumble when the enemy team has the momemtum, just look at the Astralis vs GODSENT match at the major, doesn't matter if its something that is in your head, it still an disadvantage, that's the main reason on why there's knife rounds or other rules on which team chooses the side, because if choosing sides wasn't a big deal like you said then tournament organizers would just let teams choose side at the map that they picked and do a knife round for decider.
2017-02-20 08:02
"never said that they lost because of that, i said that it (...) could have an effect in the way that they played." Maybe you should read your stuff before you post it idiot? -they didnt loose because of that -could have an effect on their loss Pick one you dumb fuck
2017-02-20 07:50
#208
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
lmao, so stupid, i didn't say that they lost because of not being able to choose sides, what i said that it could have had an effect on the way that they played,emphasis on the word could if you don't know what that word means google its definition.
2017-02-20 07:53
If you exclude the possibility that loosing knives made them lost the match and than follow up saying it could have an effect - than you are just as damaged as alll people try to tell you. Just stop, you are in the clear wrong here.
2017-02-20 07:56
#222
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
i wonder if the same people saying that i'm wrong would be saying the same thing if it was SK the team that got to choose sides on 6 maps in a row and ended up winning the event. bet that there would be hundreds of threads talking about how unfair it was, and don't get me wrong i would be here saying the same things if it was SK on VP shoes.
2017-02-20 08:15
Im just here to say you're extremely retarded, I really hope you're fakeflagging otherwise I'm ashamed to share your flag
2017-02-20 12:01
#225
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Bulgaria goatse 
Ofc the outcome of the knife round will have effect on the game lol thats why its so important. And i dont know if you are trolling or not but if you are not you should know that teams knew the rules before they accepted the invites so if they thought rules were unfair they would not accept them which makes your retarded arguments number 1 bullshit on hltv. Man you got me so triggered i had to download hltv app to answer you. Im going back to bed now damn.
2017-02-20 08:31
you sure? I think sk choosed T on cbble breh
2017-02-20 06:29
#99
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
no, VP won the knife round and they choose CT
2017-02-20 06:31
u just said it lol, vp won the knife round so they get the right to choose lol
2017-02-20 06:33
#124
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
there should not be a knife round, VP won all knife rounds, how is that even close to fair? choosing a side on a map can have huge effect on the outcome of that map, and VP choosed their favorite side on 3 out of 3 maps.
2017-02-20 06:39
sk lost because vp won the knife rounds really isnt that what this game is about? if u want to have the right to choose - win its completely fair for me if the team choosing the map has the right to also choose the side, how would that be fair? if there would be only one knife round and with the maps teams would change that wouldnt be fair too what is not fair about getting the right to choose, when won? when u flip a coin and u win u can choose, when u are better skijumper u can jump later, thats how it works lol if u got any problem with that, boycott the dreamhack and every other tourney lol oh as b0cuit pointed down there, the system where u pick the side on enemy map is fine but even then there would be people who doesnt accept that, theres just no solution which everyone will be happy about
2017-02-20 06:54
#177
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
are you really slow or something? usually the team that chooses the map doesn't get to choose the side, it how it always have been in pretty much every tourney, if you pick a map the other team will pick the side and there will be a knife round for the decider.
2017-02-20 07:14
whatever, that makes no sense u cant understand i wrote all the possible systems? and to be honest for me only the one where u have to do something to get the right to choose the side is correct? picking the side when enemy picked the map is ok too its been like that for years, if u got better idea, post it somewhere, send it, because i have none and knife system is fair enough for me win = choosing right when u practice cs u cant abandon pistol rounds, u cant abandon smokes, flashes, molotovs, u cant abandon knife rounds thats all
2017-02-20 07:34
go cry in your bed, if u wanna choose which side play, fucking win the knife round
2017-02-20 06:56
To be fair, SK was in the lead for 2/3 maps at half time, 10-5 on cobble and 8-7 on mirage. The fact they didn't win on the "favoured" side as you say it proves that VP was the better team lol. Stop crying.
2017-02-20 09:42
Thanks, Didn't know. Thought that the teams could pick sides on the enemy map. which is the system i like the most ...
2017-02-20 06:45
You know VP won all knife rounds right? Nothing stops other teams from practising knife rounds. VP do it, and it pays off. SK had luck too, so they are even.
2017-02-20 06:34
#149
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
i already said that hundred times, having knife round for first and second map is just retarded because it can give teams huge advantages like what happened in this series, VP getting to choose side on all maps, the X team a map and Y team picks side with knife decider is the best way to do it and make sure that a team doesn't get to choose side on all of the maps.
2017-02-20 06:49
It is what it is, so practicing knife roudns is best thing you can do. If you can't change it, better adapt. Otherwise you can keep complaining about everything.
2017-02-20 06:54
#180
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Denmark Yung_Leann 
why would they practice knife rounds if 99% of the tourneys have the system where the team that picks the map doesn't get to choose the side? that system is all about balancing things and making it fair, that's why i'm not sure why would DreamHack change it.
2017-02-20 07:16
+1
2017-02-20 08:07
Don't get it... The system for the tourney is posted way in advance. So if you want to win you should do you best to perform good according to the system - hence practice knife rounds - LOL sounds obvious. Sure other tourneys may have different systems. How can you say that's not fair? Are VP specially gifted to win knife rounds - dunno best knife team in the world don't think so? Or did they just prepare better then other teams for this in particular that gave them the advantage. I think you are just salty AF - but SK did good in their first tourney with felps
2017-02-20 12:28
you are crying all the way down the page just shut the fuck up man
2017-02-20 15:22
TO be able to win knife rounds on tournaments that use it to define the side for winning team. It's enough of a reason to practice it, even if it's just 1%. Sometimes that ONE percent is decisive. Simple as that. I don't know why Dreamhack did that, but they did and you can't reverse it. The only thing you can do about it is practice knife rounds. That's it.
2017-02-21 20:36
agreed.. the same was against Astralis, i was at first shocked that VP kept starting CT. I get your point and I agree with it, but i dont believe these glory hunters you arguing with are going to accept a shit
2017-02-20 06:56
I couldn't find any response as this one in the topic. So that's why I giving it: If there wouldn't be knife rounds in this game (Only for decider), they would have still had the same sides on the maps they won. The only difference it would make, was on the map they lost. So based on that, please teach me how SK got robbed? I feel you are biased in this case, because imho it would have made 0 difference.
2017-02-20 11:27
SK used to be beast on mirage considered as even better team then VP after Katowice 2014 when VP shrekt 99% team LGB was only that won this map against them in overtime if im not wrong
2017-02-20 15:36
U sound like u wanted SK to win?? :o
2017-02-20 20:19
#38
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CIS dalensky 
Pasha London School
2017-02-20 06:24
EASSSSSSSSSYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY FOR PAPA BICEPS
2017-02-20 06:24
#57
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United States barsad 
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2017-02-20 06:25
VP <3
2017-02-20 06:25
ayy papa
2017-02-20 07:16
#2
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Germany GeoRg___J 
congratz vp
2017-02-20 06:24
#169
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India RrOuTe_FoRcE 
Lets go.... vvv . . . . . . . . . vvv . . pppppp . vvv . . . . . . . vvv . . . ppp . . ppp . . vvv . . . . . vvv . . . . ppp . . . ppp . . . vvv . . . vvv . . . . . ppp . . ppp . . . . vvv . vvv . . . . . . pppppp . . . . . vvvvv . . . .. . . . ppp . . . . . . vvv . . . .. . . . . ppp
2017-02-20 07:05
Rest in Peace cyx.
2017-02-20 08:18
i like that
2017-02-20 13:25
#4
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Turkey rivaluk 
pasha ez snax top1??
2017-02-20 06:24
That is indeed correct... they have won dreamhack las vegas
2017-02-20 06:24
one of the best finals i've ever seen!!! VP!!!
2017-02-20 06:24
EZ VP :)) THE BEST TEAM ON THE WORLD
2017-02-20 06:24
Not really. Sk threw that 5v3 cold rushing b(then 3v2) and that 13-13 taz round. Im meant 12-7 in the ct side and they still managed to blow away. At least fallen was leading but taco.. Come on dude felps did a good job tho so sk will ok. Congratz to vp, that bad luck vs astralis in the major appears for sk today. Cs always give u another chance! Snax mvp by far
2017-02-20 06:57
Count how many times Vp lost round 5v3 at all maps. It's ridicolous and also eco rounds...
2017-02-20 07:37
Ofc but that was at the started of a map usually. In the dangerous moments sk was unlucky and vp have that details to get an a advantage. Im meant that cold round was 13-7 or something like that in a ct side map.
2017-02-20 14:50
ez
2017-02-20 06:24
GOOD JOB VP THAT WAS A BUTT CLENTCHER!
2017-02-20 06:24
Can confirm
2017-02-20 06:26
Can reconfirm
2017-02-20 07:08
Will re-reconfirm after I watch it again
2017-02-20 12:30
But scratcher! *
2017-02-20 13:17
gg wp
2017-02-20 06:24
#18
nitr0 | 
North America SomaRoss 
bless up vp
2017-02-20 06:24
PAPA TAZ
2017-02-20 06:24
deserved
2017-02-20 06:24
GG Fallen lost this game. So fucking bad.
2017-02-20 06:24
gratz VP!
2017-02-20 06:24
LUL, kick TACO PLEASEEE
2017-02-20 06:24
#117
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Brazil Diegho007 
fallen worst than taco on this tournament
2017-02-20 06:35
#26
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Australia so_obvious 
Good game men
2017-02-20 06:24
what a game! amazing
2017-02-20 06:24
expected from rigged tournament
2017-02-20 06:24
rigged? LMAO How much?
2017-02-20 06:24
I bet all in vp but nt
2017-02-20 06:25
still didn't answer, how was it rigged?
2017-02-20 06:25
C9 ripped that's why.
2017-02-20 07:09
#265
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United States CWalker 
+1
2017-02-20 13:07
Virtus.pro made a great comeback Pasha not a bot Well played
2017-02-20 06:24
FELPS WAS THE ISSUE
2017-02-20 06:24
#36
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
GG
2017-02-20 06:24
GG
2017-02-20 06:24
#40
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United States SoNftw 
Congrats VP!!! GG, WP!
2017-02-20 06:24
#41
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Brazil mibrzera 
congratz fallen and taco
2017-02-20 06:24
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
2017-02-20 06:24
Love you taz
2017-02-20 06:24
So respectful. I returned all respect I lost to VP.
2017-02-20 06:24
#46
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Netherlands Krin 
GG, The TaZ 1v2 won them the game.
2017-02-20 06:24
#49
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Germany pREDDYcsgo 
ez for my friend
2017-02-20 06:24
#50
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Argentina M4estre 
FALLEN AND TACO BEST VP PLAYERS
2017-02-20 06:24
#52
FalleN | 
Brazil paumito 
Thanks for the throw, Taco. We all knew you were trash, but goddammit, dude...
2017-02-20 06:25
how much?
2017-02-20 09:51
#53
Zeus | 
Other Chuckeee 
GG TAZWTF!!!!! FUCK YEAHHH
2017-02-20 06:25
fnx was the problem
2017-02-20 06:25
Taz 1v2 on 13:13 won them the game, well deserved vp
2017-02-20 06:25
gg VP
2017-02-20 06:25
#63
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Portugal dracø 
Congrats VP, finally!!!! What a comeback from a first harsh map. Taz is motivation incarnated, he had fire in his eyes at the start. SK felps got the potential to rival cold soon, SK will only improve in time. What an amazing game this 2 teams presented us, so worth staying up till 5:30 for this.
2017-02-20 06:26
Fire in his eyes is called cocain
2017-02-21 03:26
SK best Team in the World kappa
2017-02-20 06:26
Can never bet against VP on LAN. They have been doing this for over a decade, congrats to them
2017-02-20 06:26
And brazillians made fun of "Virtus.grandpa" for choking. get rekt
2017-02-20 06:26
#278
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Germany Tunio 
+1
2017-02-20 13:51
#68
chrisJ | 
Czech Republic Wrxo 
Coldzera 30+frags good but Fallen ? ? ?
2017-02-20 06:26
Fallen BOT
2017-02-20 10:51
Fuck yeah. Great finale, great victory.
2017-02-20 06:26
#71
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Brazil rickz1996 
wp virtus pro.
2017-02-20 06:26
#74
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China Yanick 
GGWP so proud of VP old guys!
2017-02-20 06:26
GG on the 2v1 against Taz
2017-02-20 06:27
well deserved
2017-02-20 06:27
#79
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Argentina roulettesoad 
fallen choked, such a shame, hope he recovers his level/skill
2017-02-20 06:27
DESERVED!!!! congrats veepeee
2017-02-20 06:27
GG, taz saved the mirage game. Good job bald man
2017-02-20 06:28
Wp vp
2017-02-20 06:28
#86
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United States nANDO111 
taco and fallen sucked hard, gg vp but sk will take revenge in the final of major in cologne sk with felps >> sk with fnx
2017-02-20 06:28
#129
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Russia inchainz 
and sk with felps and fnx will be better than sk with taco
2017-02-20 06:40
The pricemoney is missing in this Article^^
2017-02-20 06:28
200k for VP + mercedes e-class for TaZ
2017-02-20 15:24
#88
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Malaysia phyzell 
Virtus Pro is Prow!
2017-02-20 06:28
-Fallen +Hen1
2017-02-20 06:29
#91
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Denmark FeNoM_XD 
ez as fuck FalleN 33 kills in 3 maps LUL very good AWPer
2017-02-20 06:29
#92
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Brazil vass28 
fallen really bad and cold insane +25 wp vp
2017-02-20 06:30
Taco and FalleN :((
2017-02-20 06:30
#95
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Norway SkaMathias 
GG
2017-02-20 06:30
derserved.
2017-02-20 06:30
TACOBOT Again, SK sucks
2017-02-20 06:30
VP x SK are CSGO on the highest level, so amazing to watch.
2017-02-20 06:31
Yeaa
2017-02-20 14:13
Good game, well played, see you in Katowice.
2017-02-20 06:31
COLDZERA GOD Really sick finals
2017-02-20 06:32
VP underperformed so much Gratz to sk. Good game. Lol jk
2017-02-20 06:32
#106
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Hungary lemusz 
i wanna see TaZ in mercedes memes right now! :D gg VP!
2017-02-20 06:32
Lel cold with more frags than taco and fallen combined
2017-02-20 06:33
#109
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Portugal Death_Hack 
Congratulations Virtus.Pro <3
2017-02-20 06:33
#110
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Asia ZirkonX 
ez for the true gods, major was stolen from them
2017-02-20 06:34
#112
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Chile nachooww 
congrats
2017-02-20 06:34
n1
2017-02-20 06:34
#114
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Brazil MommyStealer 
FalleN and Taco :( ggwp vp
2017-02-20 06:34
gg expected so happy
2017-02-20 06:35
#116
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Sweden hudgun 
wp vp i expected sk pick overpass if pick maybe 2-0 but..and cold still beast
2017-02-20 06:35
#122
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Russia goodfella89 
true, this is stupid pick train, if you can pick over, its good choice for SK, dont know why they do this
2017-02-20 06:37
#186
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Russia grEminence 
+
2017-02-20 07:25
#125
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Faroe Islands shubaNNN 
cold need a better team, come to penta
2017-02-20 06:38
good job VP, deserved :) + HLTV is safe, BR wont make million posts about SK
2017-02-20 06:39
Hypocrite cuz SK haters made a lot of posts about VP win
2017-02-21 03:00
Gg
2017-02-20 06:39
#128
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Russia inchainz 
i remember SK fans saying that taco is one of the best solo site players... yeah sure, this guy doesnt even know how to play B, he could play site, bench, under windows, but he just went behind the site and died like 3 times...
2017-02-20 06:39
#130
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Canada rdss 
Vp legend rekt sk in 3 event... Gg Vp Respect vp Legend vp Top 1 Snax vp
2017-02-20 06:40
They NEVER rekted SK.
2017-02-20 13:25
Damn every VP member is so funny at Interviews, it makes fun to watch them talking London xD
2017-02-20 06:40
#135
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Sweden s!d_xaxa 
Gratz!! Legends!!!
2017-02-20 06:44
Like byali said: first, they were third (WESG), then second (Atlanta), now it's time to win. And so they did :) GGWP Virtus.pro. Now it's time to win in Katowice again!
2017-02-20 06:45
VP THE BEST. OLD BUT BEST. CANT STOP THE LEGENDS.
2017-02-20 06:45
#142
FalleN | 
Brazil Lk1Ng 
SK still the best, just fallen need to wake up, soon they will win everything again
2017-02-20 06:45
no
2017-02-20 06:49
It like Brits still thinks they ruling whole world and colonies but in fact they are raped by Muslims and even Scotland want to leave them xD
2017-02-20 07:03
#170
FalleN | 
Brazil Lk1Ng 
its like fnatic fangays who still think old fnatic is back LUL /close
2017-02-20 07:06
3 majors. /close
2017-02-20 07:15
#238
malta | 
Malta vfXy0 
2015 /close
2017-02-20 09:58
Sauna cleaner /close
2017-02-20 13:12
Swedish flag -> talks about muslim rape
2017-02-20 12:18
CRY IS FREE
2017-02-20 07:13
#182
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Denmark FeNoM_XD 
CRY IS FREE R Y
2017-02-20 07:23
-Fox +felps sk >> all Ohh wait haha cry is free
2017-02-20 09:43
#144
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Albania Kush9 
Ez for Legends Papa amazing
2017-02-20 06:46
yee
2017-02-20 06:47
Even with Taco and Fallen absent they could have won, but they had to throw that 1x2 against TaZ and lose the match, series and tournament... GGWP VP, I'm glad you guys finally won something again after so many finals (:
2017-02-20 06:48
#185
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Denmark FeNoM_XD 
and when did SK win something that isn't a major where you can hack your hearts off?
2017-02-20 07:24
COLD + 25
2017-02-20 06:52
Taz double kill on the 3rd match was crazy.
2017-02-20 07:07
#181
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Germany Tunio 
Mercedes incoming
2017-02-20 07:23
#183
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Europe Vallon 
SK still top 30.
2017-02-20 07:23
gg sk... gratz vp
2017-02-20 07:25
Glorious result for CSGO and humanity. I was bummed when Astralis lost to VP, but VP ended up going all the way and cured cancer!
2017-02-20 07:26
#190
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Turkey powergs 
Next stop Katowice after this shithole crowd Katowice is GOLDEN LETS GO VP ONCE KURWA ALWAYS KURWA
2017-02-20 07:28
#191
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Portugal RKO23 
lol, is just funny how people hate a team , when they dont do anything , but only the brazillians , they cant just hate some brazillians and keep loving sk... this community is really immature and childish...
2017-02-20 07:28
#197
mir | 
Slovakia TatKo 
Thats every online community tho. And after all its a videogame so its always gonna be immature and you have to accept it.
2017-02-20 07:36
#192
device | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Finally VP wins something! Congratz
2017-02-20 07:32
VP SK is the current best rivarly in csgo
2017-02-20 07:33
Not sure if you can call this a rivalry if they can't trade win/losses, this is the forth time in a row VP beats SK, three semis and now this final: hltv.org/match/2305232-sk-virtuspro-esl-.. hltv.org/match/2305975-virtuspro-sk-epic.. hltv.org/match/2307547-virtuspro-sk-elea.. hltv.org/match/2307939-virtuspro-sk-drea.. If only FalleN delivered they would have won 2-1 or even 2-0 as he is a beast on Train (and the best in his team hltv.org/?pageid=173&playerid=2023&stats.. but he really underpreformed the whole tournment and this cost them the match, series and trophy. It's more like SK is starting to become (if it's not already) VP's "customer" like we say in Brazil. Hopefully we can see real FalleN in IEM, and if we do, I don't see SK losing to VP again. ps: Like I said in #147, even without FalleN they could have won, but that 26th round on Mirage where felps whiffed and lost the 1x2 cost them everything as well. In the end GG WP, gratz VP, they deserve it!
2017-02-20 13:47
So many shit throwing on Fallen after 1 bad game from igl. Especially crazy to see this respond from favela`s. Stupid fanboy`s.
2017-02-20 07:34
#196
device | 
Yugoslavia mrmojo 
Fallen seriously underperforming entire tournament not just this match!
2017-02-20 07:35
I dont know if Felps joining made him play like this or its just a slump, but its sad anyway
2017-02-20 13:28
ez
2017-02-20 07:40
#201
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CIS dalensky 
GAMBIT > NAVI
2017-02-20 07:42
Good 3 mapper and well played both teams.
2017-02-20 07:50
#213
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Poland mamba99999 
Pff, expected.
2017-02-20 08:02
Easy for vp. Gg taz byaly pasha snax neo
2017-02-20 08:07
ez
2017-02-20 08:27
EZ
2017-02-20 08:34
Fallen top 2 < pasha top 99
2017-02-20 08:48
#231
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North America Techno_Lover 
SK is still somehow in top 3, yet they haven't won a event in fucking ages.
2017-02-20 09:05
gratz VP! they are a funny team. it doesn't matter how they play online, it doesn't even matter how they play group stage. when the important games start, they slowly and painfully win the crucial rounds.
2017-02-20 09:10
VP IS A LEGENDARY TEAM FOR EVER! SINCE CS 1.6 :) THEY ARE MATURE AND PLAY REALLY WELL
2017-02-20 09:39
Yes of course. I watched them play as Pentagram with Kuben, Loord, and Luq when they hadn't won anything yet. In fact, they played with that lineup for quite a while without any achievements; dropping out in groups or first round of playoffs. Then suddenly they won a bigger tournament (cannot remember the name), and people thought it was a fluke. But they were there to stay and have been ever since.
2017-02-20 11:32
They won wcg 3 times and eswc 2 times. These events are biggest majors for a long time for 1.6
2017-02-20 19:16
HAHAHAHA AND WHAT NOW DANES?WHY ARE YOU SO QUIET NOW? VIRTUS.GODS !!
2017-02-20 09:38
AFTER THIS I THINK PASHA , TAZ , FALLEN RETIREMENT
2017-02-20 10:01
why would taz retire? or does he have a career elsewhere? because if they keep succeeding he keeps earning, and there is no reason to stop it then.
2017-02-20 11:34
they need former a family now.... u are kid, u dont know this.
2017-02-20 17:49
gg, wp
2017-02-20 10:26
According to stats it looks like sk played 3v5
2017-02-20 10:41
3vs0
2017-02-20 11:34
LOVE YOU PAPAAAAA!! AT LEAST!!
2017-02-20 11:06
VP has been too good since a few months back already, the only thing that kept them from claiming 1st places was themselves...
2017-02-20 11:50
#252
kNgV- | 
Brazil vicTHOR 
Coldzera is making a room to become the best csgo player of the history... wtf this guy always delivers (looks like me in my valve mm). and ggwp VP
2017-02-20 11:57
Why do SK still attend tournaments? They only win against tier 3 teams like NiP xDDD And Fallen only gets kills through smoke and walls as usual xDDD Well done VP!
2017-02-20 12:04
gg vp
2017-02-20 12:05
#257
ton | 
Brazil FavelaJz 
SK CHOKERS RIDICULOUS
2017-02-20 12:21
#259
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China Ava1ondraGon 
Finally!!! I love you VP!
2017-02-20 12:23
Watching not only the Grand Finals, but the whole tournament, we can see VP's dominant performance...While SK really struggle in almost every match. No one can't take VP's credit for this win, altough i really hope for SK's victory.... but 100k in the wallet isn't bad afterall xD GGWP VP...and GL SK for next time
2017-02-20 12:40
Coldzera +25 kda stats though
2017-02-20 12:45
#264
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Bulgaria vectralsoul 
GGWP, finally after a 3rd place at WESG, 2nd place at the major, VP manage to get that 1st place and win DH Masters. It's so amazing and inspiring to see these old school legends stick together and still go at it, not only be competitive, but win titles also. Gotta love NEO, TaZ & the rest of the guys. O kurwa! #TaZWasRight #VirtusPlow
2017-02-20 13:01
Fanboy question... Did SK seem tired after 5 maps in a row? hahaha
2017-02-20 13:07
you choke cuz u are tired nice excuse
2017-02-20 13:14
VP a year ago at a tournament was in a similar situation and they won, despite the 3 players he is after 30 years
2017-02-20 15:31
#306
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Brazil Smartzilian 
VP have a better teamplay nowadays, good communication, etc. SK have to improve it. The future of this lineup seem bright.
2017-02-20 18:25
Congtatulations Virtus.Plow! Fanatastic year , 3 big events - 3 times on the podium. China - 3rd place. Major - 2nd place Dreamhack - 1st place. With VP is like with women, the older the better. Living legends , respect Neo & TaZ and company! :))
2017-02-20 13:21
Well deserved VP. SK getting mental blocked by VP? Time to step up and beat the final boss again.
2017-02-20 13:27
TaZ BenZ ez
2017-02-20 13:56
SUPER!!!
2017-02-20 14:02
GGWP VP GOOD GAME FALLEM AND TACO :( #RUNSKG
2017-02-20 14:19
#283
NEO | 
Poland camarpl 
I didn't watch the last 10 rounds, I was so sleepy I couldn't make it :f
2017-02-20 14:37
ez car for taz
2017-02-20 14:57
FalleN and Taco were the key to VP's success...the game was played 7 x 3...incredible! FalleN horrível!
2017-02-20 15:26
super final :) nice VP, ty for SK for fighting
2017-02-20 15:30
SK fighting always rollercoaster games
2017-02-20 15:38
Coldzera was smurfing The best 3 guys from SK killed more than the best guy from VP but two bottom 2 was SO BAD that the team loses.
2017-02-20 16:01
yes stfu no one care
2017-02-20 16:05
"imfriendly"
2017-02-21 03:03
Have a bitch to Valve about the money system being an overbearing game mechanic ? it artificially inflates or shifts momentum, as we saw in round 26 of Mirage. One single great play should not be worth the equivalent of SK win = would be 14-12 very very likely 15-12 (SK-VP) VP win = would be 13-13 very very likely 13-15 (SK-VP) An effective swing of 5 rounds ? or 2.5+/- ? some nerd can correct me but you know what I mean. It changes the whole finale of the tournament so much. Isn't it better to make more rounds equal and promote natural momentum instead of forcing it ? IMHO, the same old CS money system is a STUPID OUTDATED or possibly even BROKEN MECHANIC. You changed the game so much, molotovs and creative ways to use utility better.. the money system is tied to the level of depth in combat strategy. Inherently, it is tied to the game mechanics that were changed so significantly So changing it could make the game way better, use that BETA system. Less loss round levels that start higher would be so much better. Or raising the loss bonus regardless of consecutive outcome order, just the total rounds lost determines the bonus. Either would change the game drastically in some situations but be subtle most of the time. Do they consider the money system too fundamental to mess with ? maybe, but damnit WHY NOT LOOK INTO IT <3 please Valve
2017-02-22 23:33
#295
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Brazil Sleepwalking 
nice game,congrats to VP.
2017-02-20 16:00
BRAVO POLISH ARMY! WE LOVES U ALL THE TIME!
2017-02-20 16:04
SK congratulations for you too, Coldzera is an amazing player.
2017-02-20 16:19
#299
NEO | 
Other TaYeM- 
finally VP wins ,so happy for them
2017-02-20 16:55
Congratulations to VP for winning Dreamhack Masters! You really deserve to pick up the trophy. GG to SK Gaming for take a fight with polish warriors. With this two teams they are always awesome matches, this time was the same or even better.
2017-02-20 17:07
VP is oVerPerformed
2017-02-20 17:08
They won because Taz pulled a sick clutch
2017-02-20 17:23
#305
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Brazil Smartzilian 
Sad for SK but VP Deserved. Snax is a monster. ps: Marcelo 'coldzera' David 1.35 Rating wtf This guy hasnt bad days.
2017-02-20 18:17
#307
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Germany LawOrder 
I want to thank Dreamhack for making the finals at 3am. This way I avoided losing my money <3
2017-02-20 18:27
#308
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Brazil Nyaulex 
One of the best matches ive ever seen
2017-02-20 19:09
Really was, these teams and Astralis aren't sitting around enjoying their advantages. The constant effort to be better is obvious, so much respect for all players on both teams VP gotta be still pouring champagne on TaZ though, right ? my jaw dropped when he took that 1v2 duel like a BOSS. Could rant about the economy causing such gay momentum inflation, crushing SK and showering VP with benefits, but eh.. it was just such an amazing moment that I thought was quite shocking ? Almost didn't believe it was really happening ;) good on you TaZ ! old gamers never die, if you want it bad enough and you push yourself in every way to be the best, you can be the best. Fucking awesome job VP.
2017-02-22 23:20
#317
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Brazil bandicoot 
gg wp this was intense
2017-02-21 10:13
wow, such a game
2017-02-21 21:45
VP's new gaming house or what gcbgames.com/2017/02/csgo-nova-casa-de-b..
2017-02-24 02:59
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