TACO: Practice, even against T2 EU, is better

Professeur
June 19th, 2017 16:29

SK head on to the grand final od DreamHack Open Summer after defeating CLG 2-1. To hear about the game, we talked to Epitacio "TACO" de Melo.

The Brazilians of SK managed to overcome Pujan "FNS" Mehta's CLG after losing the first map, Mirage, 16-9. With a 2-1 victory, Gabriel "FalleN" Toledo and co. will move on to the grand final where they will face the winner of Immortals- fnatic.

Experience helped SK reset after losing Mirage

In a post-match interview, Epitacio "TACO" de Melo talked about, among other things, SK's struggles on Mirage and resetting between maps.

Let's start with the Immortals game, you lost to them for the first time on LAN and you are maybe going to play them in the finals again. Did you go through the map, see what happened, why did you lose that match, what did they do?
They had good reads and they played really, really well, we have to give props to them. They are improving a lot with kNg. We are friends, we talk a lot, about the game, about strats, so every time we play against Immortals there are some mind games. Of course, we watched the game after, we know we did some mistakes, so for the grand finals, if we play against them I think we are ready.
Against CLG you started on Mirage and they controlled the map, more or less, the whole way through. What do you think was the key thing there, from their side?
Mirage was our pick, I think we were kind of nervous. We tried many times the same things, we tried to execute A, explode A, but they were playing well there. nahtE, he outplayed me a few times on A, I was palace or A ramp and he killed me, that was important. I lost a clutch round to Rickeh as well, and that was an important round. I think our T side is our better side on Mirage, of course, we are good on CT as well, but T is our best side. And today it was not good, so it was a big problem for us.
Did you have a feeling they had a read on you, you play them in NA leagues as well?
I remember a Mirage we played against them online in ESL Pro League, we lost to them there as well. I think they know how to play Mirage against us, maybe. They are really good against us on this map. We tried to do some anti-strats as well, it was not working, but I think they were just better.
On the second two maps you had great starts, do you think that was one of the key things to winning those maps so easily, compared to Mirage where they a 5-0 start?
I think the biggest difference is that on Mirage we started playing kinda nervous, before the next map we had a conversation and said that we have no reason to be nervous, we thinkthat we are better than CLG so let's prove it. Let's play our game, let's focus, let's make it 2-1 so we did it. At the start we really hyped and I think it was good for us to start like that because it gave us some confidence. On Cobblestone, we had a great start and we know they don't play the map so much so we were just being aggressive, trying to find kills, trying to finds picks. That were the key points.
You mentioned mental reset between the maps, was that something you were always capable of, in the past, when you just started playing, were you always able to reset from a tough loss?
To be honest it was that I really learned in the past. We had many situations when we were nervous, in finals, semi-finals when we were maybe underdogs. I think, CLG, they are a really good team, but I think most of the people think that they are the underdogs. So after the first map, what I said to my team was:"guys, they are the underdogs. Maybe they don't believe that they can win against us. Let's use that for us, let's play aggressively. Let's play our game". We did it, and that is something I've learned, and I think the experience we had in the past, a lot of grand-finals, semi-finals it helped in this game.
You'll be staying in Europe for a longer period of time now, is there any concerns about burnout and stuff like that?
I think we have many tournaments to play in Europe that is why we are going to stay here. Actually, it's easy for us because SK's office is in Cologne, and also, practice, even against tier 2 European teams is better for us. We've been practicing a lot in NA and there are not many teams to practice there. I think, going to Europe is going to help us a lot. We are going to find better practice, we can find new things to use in-game, we can learn new things, so this month-and-a-half we are going to spend in Europe is going to be really important for us.

Let's start with the Immortals game, you lost to them for the first time on LAN and you are maybe going to play them in the finals again. Did you go through the map, see what happened, why did you lose that match, what did they do?

They had good reads and they played really, really well, we have to give props to them. They are improving a lot with kNg. We are friends, we talk a lot, about the game, about strats, so every time we play against Immortals there are some mind games. Of course, we watched the game after, we know we did some mistakes, so for the grand finals, if we play against them, I think we are ready.

Against CLG you started on Mirage and they controlled the map, more or less, the whole way through. What do you think was the key thing there, from their side?

Mirage was our pick, I think we were kind of nervous. We the same things tried many times , we tried to execute A, explode A, but they were playing well there. nahtE, he outplayed me a few times on A, I was palace or A ramp and he killed me, that was important. I lost a clutch round to Rickeh as well, and that was an important round. I think our T side is our better side on Mirage, of course, we are good on CT as well, but T is our best side. And today it was not good, so it was a big problem for us.

Did you have a feeling they had a read on you, you play them in NA leagues as well?

I remember a Mirage we played against them online in ESL Pro League, we lost to them there as well. I think they know how to play Mirage against us, maybe. They are really good against us on this map. We tried to do some anti-strats as well, it was not working, but I think they were just better.

On the second two maps you had great starts, do you think that was one of the key things to winning those maps so easily, compared to Mirage where they a 5-0 start?

I think the biggest difference is that on Mirage we started playing kinda nervous, before the next map we had a conversation and said that we have no reason to be nervous, we think that we are better than CLG so let's prove it. Let's play our game, let's focus, let's make it 2-1 - so we did it. At the start we really hyped and I think it was good for us to start like that because it gave us some confidence. On Cobblestone, we had a great start and we know they don't play the map so much so we were just being aggressive, trying to find kills, trying to finds picks. That were the key points.

You mentioned mental reset between the maps, was that something you were always capable of, in the past, when you just started playing, were you always able to reset from a tough loss?

To be honest it was that I really learned in the past. We had many situations when we were nervous, in finals, semi-finals when we were maybe underdogs. I think, CLG, they are a really good team, but I think most of the people think that they are the underdogs. So after the first map, what I said to my team was: "Guys, they are the underdogs. Maybe they don't believe that they can win against us. Let's use that for us, let's play aggressively. Let's play our game". We did it, and that is something I've learned, and I think the experience we had in the past, a lot of grand-finals, semi-finals it helped in this game.

You'll be staying in Europe for a longer period of time now, is there any concerns about burnout and stuff like that?

I think we have many tournaments to play in Europe that is why we are going to stay here. Actually, it's easy for us because SK's office is in Cologne, and also, practice, even against tier 2 European teams is better for us. We've been practicing a lot in NA and there are not many teams to practice there. I think, going to Europe is going to help us a lot. We are going to find better practice, we can find new things to use in-game, we can learn new things, so this month-and-a-half we are going to spend in Europe is going to be really important for us.

Brazil Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Epitacio 'TACO' de Melo
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
458
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.13
Canada Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Pujan 'FNS' Mehta
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.92
Maps played:
534
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Brazil Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Gabriel 'FalleN' Toledo
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
595
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.60
APR:
0.11
eZ 4 SK
2017-06-19 16:30
WHY U SO FAST
2017-06-19 16:31
#11
shox | 
Switzerland znon 
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
2017-06-19 16:31
+1 SK Brazil/germany project best team in history
2017-06-19 16:37
for sure.
2017-06-19 16:37
Nothing to do with German CS skills xD
2017-06-19 16:50
hehe xd
2017-06-19 16:51
Management/Logistics : Germany > Brazil Counter Strike: Germany < Brazil
2017-06-21 12:15
#50
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Lithuania Pinnacle 
NA XD
2017-06-19 17:18
wrong fallen, its not GA.FalleN
2017-06-19 18:36
#2
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
The BM
2017-06-19 16:30
BM? not really, Liquid and OpTic literally grief around the map when they practice in n.a , if they're not called out for it, they won't ever change
2017-06-19 20:55
#105
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Its more bm than some of the shit people say is
2017-06-19 21:43
#109
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United States koyoCSGO 
Is there a source for this?
2017-06-19 21:58
#111
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Singapore Nephalith 
This mentality caused NA to be irrelevant for years. These guys are paid professionals... I miss the days of X3/3D - coL where muricans actually practiced seriously.
2017-06-19 22:16
X3 was anything but serious and tactical, they were just a bunch of star aimers who proved that they were worst than the best team from Europe
2017-06-19 22:35
#115
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Singapore Nephalith 
Are you serious? They won CPL summer and 2nd place CPL winter, only lost to the legendary NiP. Rambo pioneered plenty of OG strats in CS alongside other great tacticians like elemeNt, potti, and xeqtR.
2017-06-19 22:51
+1
2017-06-19 22:54
no he didn't those were puggy "strats" as fuck and they always relied on their stars and yes, im serious, X3 WAS worst than NiP/SK (2000-2003) , and in my opinion 3D was better than X3 even though one of the first rosters had 4 or 3/5 of the X3 players (can't remember accurately).
2017-06-19 23:47
#122
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Singapore Nephalith 
X3 became 3D. Most teams back then were "puggy as fuck". Only the strong teams weren't so puggy, X3 was one of those teams.
2017-06-20 13:55
X3 was very puggy im pretty sure you can find vods in youtube
2017-06-20 13:56
#124
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Singapore Nephalith 
If X3 was puggy to you, so were the rest of Europe bar NiP, SoA. X3 was a world beater not solely because aim. Scandinavians and Russians were better aimers. X3 had brains and Ksharp.
2017-06-20 13:59
NiP before 1.3 was indeed very puggy, it changed a lot when HeatoN joined SoA was absolutely very puggy 1.0 to 1.1c teams were very puggy, they hadn't discovered the game entirely yet. X3 literally had almost all of the better aimers you could find in their state and arguably, U.S xdddddd watever, if you're in denial you're gonna stay in denial. The most tactical team to come out of U.S before go will forever beE.G with Lurppis imo
2017-06-20 14:08
#126
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Singapore Nephalith 
I'm not in denial. It is a fact that NA had their golden generation back then with great tactical minds. Rambo and tr1p were special. I'm not disagreeing that they suck now but if you're just gonna deny that they were once a great CS nation/region based on your personal bias, whatever. I don't know why I'm even wasting my time.
2017-06-20 14:12
not once did i say they weren't great in cs back then, i watched them live. You're delusional if you think that X3 2001 was a tactically depth team though Don't know why am i wasting my time with a greasy brown fake flagging monkey
2017-06-20 14:44
#128
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Singapore Nephalith 
When can't argue, here comes the personal insult. Ah well. I refuse to stoop to your level and just report.
2017-06-20 14:46
basically confirming what i said?
2017-06-20 14:47
#120
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United States koyoCSGO 
This frustrates me so much. What the fuck are you doing Liquid?!
2017-06-20 01:30
#121
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United States koyoCSGO 
As for OpTic, I have no doubt that it comes from that man child jasonR. But Liquid?? Are you serious??
2017-06-20 01:33
ofc, tier 2 EU>Tier 1 NA
2017-06-19 16:30
#5
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
+1
2017-06-19 16:30
#104
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United Kingdom Blorp_ 
Tier 1 UK < Tier 3 EU
2017-06-19 21:38
#106
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
UK Tier 1 players = EU Tier 2 players UK Tier 1 teams = EU Tier 4 teams
2017-06-19 21:44
#107
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United Kingdom Blorp_ 
yes, smooya & ALEX are god
2017-06-19 21:48
#108
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United Kingdom HarryBotter 
Yes
2017-06-19 21:48
tier 3 EU > tier 1 NA
2017-06-19 16:31
#23
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Europe kickaizypls 
+3.14159265359
2017-06-19 16:37
+10
2017-06-19 16:32
++
2017-06-19 17:14
#4
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Brazil Licks 
Good game, CLG did well.
2017-06-19 16:31
#9
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Czech Republic Dooscha 
than NA
2017-06-19 16:31
#10
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Sweden rizlaone 
rekt NA
2017-06-19 16:31
Savage
2017-06-19 16:31
#13
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Luxembourg MrFuccboi 
tier2 EU > tier1 NA confirmed
2017-06-19 16:31
#14
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Norway L0KEN^ 
LUL BM rip NA
2017-06-19 16:31
lul,bot taco
2017-06-19 16:31
#16
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France G2kennyS 
Ej tier 3 > tier 1 na
2017-06-19 16:31
Nice clickbait title lol If only you added "For us" after it wouldnt sound like he was shit talking another team
2017-06-19 16:33
#57
Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo 
It's better for anyone, not just for them tho...
2017-06-19 17:26
Yeah because the western world is brainless. No respect for dedicated players when 12 year olds are picked up for pro lmfao
2017-06-19 16:33
#20
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United States Logic_CSGO 
As much as I hate to say it, he's right. T2 EU teams probably practice harder and smarter than any T1 NA team.
2017-06-19 16:33
T1 asia csgo team is?
2017-06-19 16:36
t1 asia teams = tier 4 EU teams except Recca and tyloo
2017-06-22 01:21
#27
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Saudi Arabia RIP englando 
REKT
2017-06-19 16:40
BOT TACO TALKING lol
2017-06-19 16:40
#29
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Brazil vicTHOR 
NA is so bad lol
2017-06-19 16:43
#30
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Germany 'ezpz 
I hope BIG can pracc sometimes against them, would help them a lot to play against a top3 team.
2017-06-19 16:44
#31
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Brazil fNvicious 
i dont get it if they like to practice with eu so much, why dont they move there and stop talking shit about na ?
2017-06-19 16:46
Because its guaranteed that they qualifer for every BIG LAN. In EU upsets are possible in bo1s. Just look at Astralis or Faze not qualifying for EPL. Would never happen in NA.
2017-06-19 16:55
Ni that's true at all. FAZE and Astralis didn't go through bc it's online, where no one gives a fuck. Fazd just lost the last 2 games against G2, they only needed one to go through so yeah
2017-06-19 18:35
If they dont give a fuck, why bother then? And they dont care bout the lan finals? All that visibility and money? Dude, stop making empty excuses plz, its sad, not even them are making these statements cuz is just too miserably, but they have brains, u fans dont.
2017-06-19 19:04
+1
2017-06-19 20:06
Ofc they are not gonna say it LOL. Dude i watch a lot of Esl pro league, every team there is using 0 tactics. They just peak and use no grenades almost, Faze was counting of the last 4 games to win 2 but they won 0 i think, thats what cost them. EVERYONE knows online cs go is bullshit, its nothing compared to on lan. EVERY analyst agrees on that. Its not an excuse, its a fact. Envyus qualified instead of FAZE and ASTRALIS, freaking ENVYUS. They didnt even qaulify for the major LOL, thats how good they are
2017-06-19 21:09
#86
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Brazil skbestteam07 
Because they are accustomed to USA. It is not easy to change different countries, languages and customs. Her friends of immortals, Dead, Camila (her parents in the cs), they all live in the United States, are great friends, speak the same language
2017-06-19 19:03
n1 English bro
2017-06-19 19:15
#46
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Brazil Kohzito 
Cause if they move, will need to start in lower divisions... And will lost EPL and Faceit spots
2017-06-19 17:09
#58
Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo 
Highly doubt it.
2017-06-19 17:27
#69
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Brazil Kohzito 
Fallen said in stream or some video. I don't remember
2017-06-19 18:02
#76
Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo 
If they talk to the organizers I doubt they would deny one of the best team of access to their league.
2017-06-19 18:20
#83
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Brazil kLango 
I think they would and they should, it's called professionalism. Who would they take out of that leagues to put sk in it? Would be so unfair..
2017-06-19 18:57
#90
Xeno | 
Netherlands Xenoo 
They can just add them extra, they do it all the time.
2017-06-19 19:20
Lmao remember what ESL did wih VP?
2017-06-20 00:00
#67
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Liberia fishing_cat 
NA is even farther away from BR, entirely different timezones etc. also language barriers unless they go to PT, which is a shithole. also not really any BR communities like they have in LA. im pretty sure they wouldnt be afraid to play online leagues in EU. they are hard working team, i dont think it would be a problem for them to qualify for EPL, and even ECS they should manage.
2017-06-19 17:59
Dude, california >> rest of the world. Legalized recreational pot, good climate, rich country.... fat burgers and shit. Why move to EU? No need. They can bootcamp for 45 days and its enough.
2017-06-19 20:21
#32
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Canada DadaTOUKAY 
hltv.org/matches/2311467/clg-vs-sk-dream.. Always the Worst player who got the biggest mouth
2017-06-19 16:50
Thats how you analise a plyer? You press tab and judge? No wonder NA cs is so shit lmao
2017-06-19 16:52
even if he is their worst player he is better than 4/5 in clg that match lol.
2017-06-19 18:10
#74
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Canada DadaTOUKAY 
Nice brain , you just had a hard day for sure , have a good evening
2017-06-19 18:11
tbh TACO is more impactful player than 90% of all NA players. NA players are so fucking braindead all of them almost. All they have is aim.
2017-06-19 18:12
#77
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Canada DadaTOUKAY 
yh you're probably right taco is more intelligent than the majority of NA players and I've found a proof : youtu.be/K4a3VCvFLFg?t=2m28s
2017-06-19 18:23
lol i dont think you could find anything more irrelevant than that. im talking about csgo and all you can come up with is this? NA cs sucks get over it.
2017-06-19 18:32
#82
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Canada DadaTOUKAY 
lol i dont think you could find anything more irrelevant than that. im talking about csgo and all you can come up with is this? NA cs sucks get over it.
2017-06-19 18:47
na tier3 confirmed lul
2017-06-19 16:50
He just said the truth i mean if ranks is the serious place yo Play and everyone is kidding It comes very shitty
2017-06-19 16:56
oh shut the f. up taco, be respectful brotha
2017-06-19 16:58
#49
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World VladimirLucas 
im glad pros realized how garbage NA is
2017-06-19 17:18
havent they always tho
2017-06-19 17:28
He means that in EU has more teams to pratice
2017-06-19 17:20
Sure. That's what he is "saying".
2017-06-19 19:28
ahahah roasted
2017-06-19 17:25
#65
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Japan jia 
toxic
2017-06-19 17:51
Wow that hurts but we know the trutha
2017-06-19 17:54
#78
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Canada uhJake 
Just shit all over NA smh
2017-06-19 18:31
he roasting NA xD gj
2017-06-19 19:25
#93
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
ouch, that's spicy
2017-06-19 20:01
opened expecting a wall of braindead comments about him supposedly dissing NA - not disappointed. the only one who managed to get it right is #51 and he is apparently a brazilian... smh
2017-06-19 22:20
T10 EU > T1 NA
2017-06-20 00:08
#130
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United States TomBrady 
Bring back fucking EG
2017-06-20 17:56
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