BIG mission: Make German CS great again

With the Main Qualifier for PGL Major Krakow just around the corner, we take a look at the Cinderella story that has been BIG's journey this year.

In December, many believed that their time at the elite level was over. As NRG revamped their roster and Fatih "gob b" Dayik, Johannes "tabseN" Wodarz and Nikola "LEGIJA" Ninić were nowhere to be seen, the European trio returned home with no titles and the feeling that they had missed a year of action on a team that had largely looked insipid.

BIG return to Bucharest after winning the European Minor there

And let’s face it – the odds were not exactly in their favour. gob b and LEGIJA were both well into their 20s, and tabseN had not been able to live up to the expectations surrounding him. So when they announced that they were linking up with Johannes "nex" Maget, who had been benched by mousesports just months before, and with Kevin "keev" Bartholomäus, whose biggest achievement was a first-placed finish at ESWC 2016, only a few looked convinced.

"I enjoyed my time in the United States with my former North American teammates,” gob b tells HLTV.org. "I wanted to form a German team with tabseN and LEGIJA, and wanted to live in my home country again.

"I believe that my ingame calling is better in German as I am not a native English speaker. This may have been one of the reasons why we were unable to reach our goals back then, but I learned a lot during this time and had the chance to meet many great people there."

As BIG prepare for the PGL Major qualifier, it is easy to forget that their journey began only six months ago. In this brief period of time, they have risen through the ranks of European Counter-Strike, and they travel to Bucharest boosted by their highest-ever HLTV.org ranking, having moved up to 18th following an amazing run at the European Minor.

BIG made their first appearance at DreamHack Leipzig, in mid-January. It is unquestionable that the field was not that strong, but for a team that had just come together, a runners-up finish was something that they could boast about. Later that month, they would claim their first title as they finished first at the iGame.com Winter Invitational.

But it has not always been smooth sailing for BIG, who have also had to learn how to deal with disappointment. They could not live up to their billing as red-hot favorites for Copenhagen Games as they were sent packing by the surprise package of the tournament, Singularity, who would go on to claim the trophy.

"Singularity had an amazing day and we were a bit unprepared for them,” BIG Chief Gaming Officer Christian Lenz recalls.

"But it did not hurt us that much. We wanted to use Copenhagen Games to practice our strats, and if we look at the results that we had in the weeks that followed that event, I think it is safe to say that it paid off."

May was a special month for the Germans. A first-placed finish at the ESL Meisterschaft Spring event was followed up by a final defeat in Leicester to PENTA at the ESEA Season 24 Global Challenge, but BIG only truly raised eyebrows after securing a spot in the next iteration of the ESL Pro League following wins over Virtus.pro and Kevin "kRYSTAL" Amend’s men.

And then came the European Minor. Victories over Kinguin and Ballistix earned BIG the top spot in Group A and a high seed in the playoffs, but they were sent to the Lower Bracket by Dignitas in a series that had two very distinct maps. With no margin for error, the German team played some of the best Counter-Strike we have seen from them and beat Envy, Dignitas and PENTA in 2-0 series and with little rest between matches. For tabseN in particular, this was a memorable event as he posted a career-high 1.52 tournament Rating.

Will tabseN continue to carry BIG to glory?

There are only three players in the world who better tabseN’s current 1.30 LAN Rating for 2017 – Ismailcan "XANTARES" Dörtkardeş, Hansel "BnTeT" Ferdinand and Nemanja "huNter-" Kovač. What makes this even more impressive is that, between 2013 and 2016, only once did tabseN end a year with an above-average LAN Rating – and it was just 1.02. So what is so special about BIG that they finally give tabseN the conditions to flourish, when, in the past, he was part of teams who on paper looked just as good, if not better?

"I looked for this kind of team for years,” he tells HLTV.org. “Everyone on the team is dedicated and ‘lives’ the game, and that is what you need to keep improving every day.

"Besides that, we are all good friends and we get along with each other pretty well outside the game. We have decided to go on holiday together in August, even though we have been together at the BIG house 24/7 for months now.

"Our gaming house is also a huge factor behind our success. We have the perfect setup there and we talk a lot about CS. Even when we stop playing after a 10-hour practice day, we often sit in Fatih’s room and we keep talking about strategies, opponents or tactical approaches.

"All these factors combined have helped me to get my game to the next level. I feel comfortable with Fatih’s and Alexander "kakafu" Szymanczyk’s game plans, and I can trust my teammates in every situation on the server.

"I keep playing a lot outside of our practice sessions. But I am sure that I can still improve my game, and that keeps me motivated."

For a country that has been a staple in esports since their inception and that continues to host big events and leagues across multiple titles, Germany has surprisingly come up short in the talent department in recent years. As organisations like mousesports and PENTA go for international rosters and achieve unprecedented levels of success, German fans hope that it will be BIG to put the country back on the map.

"We are proud of what we have achieved so far,” gob b says. “We are also proud to be the best German team.

"Every day, we get messages from German fans who tell us how happy they are to have found a German team that they can support. That really keeps us going.”

However surprising BIG’s success may be, gob b remains unfazed. After all, he has been in the game long enough to know how quickly things change – for better or for worse. That’s why he paid little attention to those in the community who labelled him and his players “washed up” when BIG was announced.

"We never play for our critics," he explains. "We only play for our family. We knew what we could achieve together, and although we are not done yet, I have to say we have made great progress since DreamHack Leipzig.

"We want to become better as a unit, and if through that we can silence our harshest critics then that is a nice thing to have on top."

The Main Qualifier for PGL Major Krakow will be, as gob b puts it, the "biggest test" to the team. It is hard to overlook BIG’s most noticeable flaw – the two veterans on the team are unable to put in big numbers, so they have to rely on tabseN, nex and keev to do the heavy work. The opponents at the Main Qualifier will be better prepared to counter tabseN, and that is where the tactical mastermind that is gob b will have to come into play.

After enjoying success in their previous trip to Bucharest, BIG may come up short this time around. But it will matter little. Their rise to prominence and their ability to give German fans a team to cheer on already make them one of the best stories of 2017.

Turkey Ismailcan 'XANTARES' Dörtkardeş
Ismailcan 'XANTARES' Dörtkardeş
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.20
Maps played:
1050
KPR:
0.85
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.16
Germany Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1315
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.15
Serbia Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Nemanja 'huNter-' Kovač
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.14
Maps played:
977
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Germany Kevin 'keev' Bartholomäus
Kevin 'keev' Bartholomäus
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
594
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.09
Germany Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
975
KPR:
0.56
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Germany Kevin 'kRYSTAL' Amend
Kevin 'kRYSTAL' Amend
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1473
KPR:
0.62
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Germany Nikola 'LEGIJA' Ninić
Nikola 'LEGIJA' Ninić
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
850
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.14
Germany Johannes 'nex' Maget
Johannes 'nex' Maget
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1063
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Indonesia Hansel 'BnTeT' Ferdinand
Hansel 'BnTeT' Ferdinand
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.19
Maps played:
731
KPR:
0.79
DPR:
0.61
APR:
0.15
Austria Alexander 'kakafu' Szymanczyk
Alexander 'kakafu' Szymanczyk
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
20
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
#1
Turkey J4WS 
Ez for GOD B
2017-06-28 20:22
#10
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Sweden AlexJonesVEVO 
EZ 4 PENTAS HALF FINNISH COUNTER STRIKE ROSTER FEATURING, SUNNY, ZEN, HS, KRYSTAL, INNOCENT AND NASU.
2017-06-28 20:23
#20
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Australia Someboddyy 
was it ever great?
2017-06-28 20:22
When cyx was alive, yes, it was great
2017-06-28 20:24
#34
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Australia Someboddyy 
damn..
2017-06-28 20:24
#42
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Australia Someboddyy 
2017-06-28 20:26
#175
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Germany GeoRg___J 
#MAKEGERMANCSGREATAGAIN
2017-06-28 22:55
#209
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
Just get Johnny R, Roman R, neo etc. back to the game. EZ PZ GERMAN SCENE UBER ALLES SQZY! Except NiP. NiP bestest.
2017-06-29 01:23
#208
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Venezuela HyperMald 
:(
2017-06-29 01:14
#207
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Germany IamNada 
lul
2017-06-29 01:14
#267
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Switzerland IJesuZzzz 
Haha no not realy. German CS Sucked and still sucks ass
2017-06-29 15:35
#330
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United States 0dragoon0 
How have you managed to be both a prick and completely delusional in the same god damned sentence?
2017-07-04 09:35
-krystal +allu penta tier 1
2017-06-28 20:36
That's six players.
2017-06-28 21:24
#139
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Other kimbadim 
Ever head of the term 'coach'?
2017-06-28 21:39
Coach isn't included on a roster as they aren't players.
2017-06-28 22:08
#17
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Australia 100T_TOP_100 
Donald B
2017-06-28 20:22
R8 joke
2017-06-28 22:49
#RUNPENTA
2017-06-28 20:22
#252
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Brazil fuNNa 
GERMAN CS LUL
2017-06-29 11:28
#259
contE | 
Argentina rdg138 
let me remind you that your team's org is GERMAN...why do you think ? german cs golden era teams : team9 , alternate attax, mouz.levicom, cyx/kapio/tixo/gob b/gore nis mouz. hopefully they become relevant again.
2017-06-29 13:30
#260
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Brazil fuNNa 
who cares about org, money is everysthing is all terms german golden era on cs is stuck in the past
2017-06-29 13:36
#2
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Russia remdyx 
yoo
2017-06-28 20:21
#3
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United States jh8 
ayyy lmao
2017-06-28 20:21
#4
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Brazil pHgor 
ok
2017-06-28 20:22
Lul
2017-06-28 20:22
#6
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Romania RobyXD 
Lul
2017-06-28 20:22
#7
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Germany turtoX 
EZ
2017-06-28 20:22
#8
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Europe SteffeM 
TONALT TRUMPEN
2017-06-28 20:22
#9
s1mple | 
Kazakhstan raajabee 
LUL
2017-06-28 20:22
#11
Nepal OTAN 
German scene xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2017-06-28 20:22
#68
 | 
Germany Exking 
Really dude...nepal?!
2017-06-28 20:41
#69
Nepal OTAN 
hltv newbie detected
2017-06-28 20:41
Yeah you cant shit on countries as a fake flagger without being a joke. So much about being new on hltv 0/8
2017-06-28 22:43
#72
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Faroe Islands Galaxy97 
Nepal scene lul
2017-06-28 20:42
#87
Nepal OTAN 
deutsch schwein lol
2017-06-28 20:50
nice german
2017-06-28 20:57
#153
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
Turk spotted.
2017-06-28 21:58
nope lol why?
2017-06-28 21:59
#157
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
It's pretty obv. that u are a muslim. And knowing these words makes u most likely one of those turkish rats that gather in Germany. xD
2017-06-28 22:07
no I'm not Turkish. Anyway, I reported you for your racist/xenophobic slurs. Enjoy your vacations in gulag.
2017-06-28 22:08
#262
ropz | 
Turkey eauchaud 
+1 Thanks
2017-06-29 13:50
#271
Jesus | 
Czech Republic Jurys 
reported, gj man haHAA
2017-06-29 18:56
nice buzzwords, faggot
2017-07-02 06:50
that's because you're an educated individual
2017-07-02 14:14
pedant
2017-07-03 09:40
Du bist doch selbst in Deutschland. Und jetzt geh weiter mit deinem drecksmate r4mbo 12er sammeln anstatt hier dumm rumzuchatten.
2017-06-29 14:08
#268
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
reload ur brain, kiddo.
2017-06-29 16:22
Ja halt lieber die Schnauze du dämlicher kanacke
2017-06-30 02:15
#284
HUNDEN | 
China ene1nz 
Spoiled kids these days...
2017-06-30 06:02
+1
2017-06-30 12:52
i'm confuse who is Nepal in cs xD .. Germany have good scene currently
2017-06-29 08:49
#90
 | 
Germany PcPrincipal68 
Himalaya CS LUL
2017-06-28 20:53
#13
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Sweden cubexztAr 
"again" LUL
2017-06-28 20:22
rofl +1
2017-06-28 20:33
He is talking about 1.6 times
2017-06-28 20:34
the scene wasn't that good besides cyx [*] and roman
2017-06-28 20:44
the scene was pretty good, always 2 decent team internationally, and the domestic scene - German EPS - was great
2017-06-28 21:33
only because there was like good amount of prize money in their EPS compared to other countries that didn't even have anything like EPS or prizes were lower so the scene couldn't develop as good as in germany
2017-06-28 21:35
#91
 | 
Germany PcPrincipal68 
lol newfag
2017-06-28 20:54
2017-06-28 21:19
#114
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Germany ToxlC 
Yeah, sweden should make their CS great again
2017-06-28 21:21
build a wall aswell
2017-06-28 20:22
good luck
2017-06-28 20:22
I dont think so
2017-06-28 20:22
#19
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Russia alabar 
lul
2017-06-28 20:22
#21
g0d | 
Brazil L4x @.@ 
new cheating coming boyz
2017-06-28 20:22
Lil Trump approved
2017-06-28 20:22
#24
LASER | 
Europe Laser_ 
Before germans will rise in CS, i will stop smoking.
2017-06-28 20:22
haha bin dabei
2017-06-28 20:48
mb this is not possible ? :P
2017-06-28 21:09
lol, german cs was great?
2017-06-28 20:22
#38
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Ukraine XFESTER 
NAVI DAVI, BLYAT
2017-06-28 20:25
Yes it was, a very long time ago
2017-06-28 20:26
In 1.6
2017-06-28 20:42
#93
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Germany PcPrincipal68 
1.6 newfag
2017-06-28 20:56
mousesports with a sick player that parted away few years ago: cyx selectah. He was such a good friend from gob b. Rest in peace cyx, u were a beast. "Following these tragic events the players Fatih 'gob b' Dayik, Navid 'Kapio' Javadi and the backup player Christian "Blizzard" Chmiel were unable to accept the loss of a friend and they ended their career"
2017-06-28 21:35
gobbbbbbbbbbbbbb
2017-06-28 20:23
tabseN got this :)
2017-06-28 20:23
#28
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
german cs lul
2017-06-28 20:23
#106
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Turkey DebbSoray 
SK is a German organisation, you know right? Your gods are paid by Germans. You have no words here.
2017-06-28 21:11
#117
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Germany T0BS3N 
I like you Ali
2017-06-28 21:24
#173
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Turkey DebbSoray 
TY Hans.
2017-06-28 22:49
I like you too Mr Mohammed
2017-06-30 02:22
#170
ppk | 
Brazil 4vengerr 
I know, but, who is cs players there?
2017-06-28 22:44
#180
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Germany lawlig 
2-3 years ago no one had hope for brazillian cs as well so... The time will show us :3
2017-06-28 23:10
#251
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Paraguay lel0x 
Yeah but his players was Sweden and leyends players was swedens in the teamlife. And now is brazilians.
2017-06-29 11:12
lul
2017-07-19 00:01
#29
ZywOo | 
Romania beerxD 
wezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2017-06-28 20:23
well good luck with that lol.
2017-06-28 20:23
#31
lueg | 
Czech Republic Lueg 
Geman CS great AGAIN? i arent think that
2017-06-28 20:23
#74
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Germany ssaH 
1.6 with attax and Mouz , both in top 5
2017-06-28 20:44
#94
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Germany PcPrincipal68 
2017-06-28 20:56
#113
lueg | 
Czech Republic Lueg 
is this what they call TRIGGERED?
2017-06-28 21:20
no its what they call EXPOSED
2017-06-29 02:31
#256
lueg | 
Czech Republic Lueg 
Understandable. Have a great day.
2017-06-29 12:50
you too my friend
2017-06-29 13:00
#36
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France iNolake 
Make German CS great *
2017-06-28 20:25
#76
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Germany ssaH 
1.6 with attax and Mouz , both was top 5
2017-06-28 20:44
<3
2017-06-28 20:25
#39
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Europe jesh 
they won't qualify but gl
2017-06-28 20:25
SK is german lolololololololololololololololol
2017-06-28 20:26
just the organisation.. same with mousesports.. your point?
2017-06-28 21:44
my point is that pizza is better than chocolate
2017-06-29 04:51
#308
nooky | 
Germany 3clipzz 
+1
2017-07-02 14:24
#44
Jame | 
Netherlands Polakva 
1-3 ez
2017-06-28 20:27
#47
smooya | 
Austria shaakeh 
what a title
2017-06-28 20:28
LUL poor tabsen must have a broken back from carrying the four bots on his team LUL
2017-06-28 20:30
#85
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United States BioLine 
nex aint toooo bad
2017-06-28 20:49
True but only if he has having a good day I think if you replaced tabsen with another just decent player big would probably collapse as a team
2017-06-28 21:44
On the other hand, replace LEGIJA with someone decent and i think they'd be top 15 at least, maybe top 10... with gob b's leadership
2017-06-28 22:38
True I think keev has potential tabsen is awesome gob b is a good igl nex can go big sometimes only one that lacks is legija maybe if someone like denis left mouz or was replaced they could pick him up
2017-06-28 23:10
#49
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Turkey CHAMPTZ 
#gogobb.
2017-06-28 20:32
#50
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Portugal zeringas 
hahahahahahahahahahaha nice one
2017-06-28 20:33
#52
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Portugal zeringas 
when was the time that german cs was great ?
2017-06-28 20:33
In 1.6
2017-06-28 20:34
#57
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Germany k0by 
hard times coming from portugal i guess
2017-06-28 20:35
#131
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United States Jrfaster 
Lol
2017-06-28 21:31
when cyx was still alive
2017-06-28 22:24
#53
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Brazil neyzambo 
Donald Trump
2017-06-28 20:34
#56
roman | 
Germany m0nkkk 
16 year olds be like "german cs was great? lol" fuck yea it was
2017-06-28 20:35
#63
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France 2Ez4MaBoyZ 
But in 1.6 ; ) Not in csgo
2017-06-28 20:37
#97
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Germany PcPrincipal68 
that why it says CS and not CSGO
2017-06-28 20:57
It was decent
2017-06-28 20:40
better than any BR cs at this time. Decent? German was the best
2017-06-28 20:46
#98
roman | 
Germany m0nkkk 
yea ofc i meant 1.6, even in css there was much more than now..
2017-06-28 20:58
so you think the german scene was better than the swedish and danish scenes, ok you already lost
2017-06-28 21:40
xde
2017-06-28 20:36
germany is like the most populated country in the EU, yet they can't produce high level CS players, its kinda sad if you think about it, in any other sport they have a ton of people at the top of their game.
2017-06-28 20:36
according to your logic na should have the best teams right now
2017-06-28 21:24
no lol, just because NA is good at basketball and handegg doesn't mean they should be dominating eSports because they have 400 million people.
2017-06-28 21:29
" is like the most populated country in the EU, yet they can't produce high level CS players" yes lol
2017-06-28 21:29
good bait
2017-06-28 21:37
#182
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Germany lawlig 
Are you retarded?:D
2017-06-28 23:15
#160
k1to | 
Germany fLakz 
Its all about our mindset. I mean, we have the skill but our egos are just too big. You can't get along with someone who has a big ego and is stubborn just like yourself.
2017-06-28 22:24
Italy cs > German cs lul
2017-06-28 20:36
#70
oskar | 
Germany MouzTOP1 
Is there 1 italy pro Team?
2017-06-28 20:41
#73
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Faroe Islands Galaxy97 
nah but they´re pro in doing pizza
2017-06-28 20:43
gl
2017-06-28 20:37
glhf german cs
2017-06-28 20:39
ty europe
2017-06-30 02:25
#66
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Brazil BuddyINSANE 
Good luck boys, but not against my team <3 Let's go IMMORTALS, we can do it! We smart, we loyal, we friendly, we are from BRAZIL! Kreygasm
2017-06-28 20:40
#196
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France VeryG2Guy 
0/8
2017-06-29 00:11
Yes let's make Germany great again with half the lineup not even Germans. Tabsen needs a new team tbh pretty good player.
2017-06-28 20:45
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
2017-06-28 20:49
#92
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Germany ssaH 
when the player mean about there self that there are german than there are german you cant say but his name is from ..... he look like ..... we are all from Afrika
2017-06-28 20:56
how can there be "half a team" on a team of 5 players?
2017-06-28 21:51
Coach?
2017-06-30 02:26
#188
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Germany lawlig 
Everyone of BIG is german lol
2017-06-28 23:17
everyone of BIG is a german citizen
2017-06-29 14:28
GO BIG OR GO HOME <3 these guys
2017-06-28 20:45
#81
mir | 
El Salvador NotHotMan 
EZ FOR BIG AND PENTA MAJOR GRAND FINAL
2017-06-28 20:47
Too much burgers theree
2017-06-28 20:49
#88
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Malaysia byaIi 
paN <3
2017-06-28 20:51
#89
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Poland axmar1 
Any Muslims in the team? racism
2017-06-28 20:52
#96
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Sweden DrProblem 
I see trump in csgo
2017-06-28 20:57
#100
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Denmark clutchkongen 
haha today's joke. thanks for the laugh big, pure comedy xD
2017-06-28 21:00
Germans are not as good in cs, compared to danes, because danes have no soul. They play like robots (xyp9x, gla1ve) or are so undereducated that the only thing they can do is playing cs, but they cant even read(kjaerbye and k0nfig). Only danes with soul are Karrigan and dupreeh, but kjaerbye is sucking dupreeh's soul out since karrigan left. poor guy.
2017-06-28 22:42
karrigan is a good guy since he is half german. danes play boring cs and also cheated their way to the top (k0nfig kjarbye)
2017-06-29 00:20
Could not agree more
2017-06-30 02:27
#216
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Denmark clutchkongen 
.
2017-06-29 02:11
#101
 | 
Kazakhstan Bombardian 
Trump b
2017-06-28 21:01
#102
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Brazil romp  
u have my support GO BiG GO Gog B <3
2017-06-28 21:05
i dont see that
2017-06-28 21:09
yep pure comedy like danish cs teams
2017-06-28 21:10
#107
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Sweden 4Sweeeden 
I agree... its a BIG mission (Probably impossible LUL) youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
2017-06-28 21:11
BIG > SK
2017-06-28 21:12
german CS in GO: tbh nothing really special Source: Who cares? i never was into it!? 1.6 and before: - IEM 2x #1 / 1x #3 - WCG 2002 #3 - CPL #1 / #3 - WSCG #1 - eswc 3x #3 - DH #4 to list some....
2017-06-28 21:15
Fuck Germany, only cheating.
2017-06-28 21:15
i love BIG, they have improved so much, i really hope they get through
2017-06-28 21:16
tabseN remind me of roman, yes i know. roman was absolutly beast, but if tabseN keep playing like this. He will go into history like roman did for German scene.
2017-06-28 21:22
+1
2017-06-28 21:34
lul
2017-06-28 21:25
again ?
2017-06-28 21:25
Newfag spotted
2017-06-30 02:28
GOB B THE GERMAN SCENE REVIVER!
2017-06-28 21:25
stfu, u wont even make it to the major
2017-06-28 21:26
:>
2017-07-03 03:08
stfu, u wont even make it to the quarters but lets be honest, how will this team ''make german cs great again'' they would have to win a major or something
2017-07-03 05:04
Online Open Qualifier -> Online Closed Qualifier -> Minor -> Major Qualifier -> Major BIG already achieved a lot, and maybe they'll go 0-1 and then 1-1 just like in this qualifier and battle their way into the quarters. The fact we are still talking about them shows how much they've accomplished. And regularly making majors is an achievement nowadays. NIP and nV didn't make it, neither did HR or Liquid. The question now is, was this a fluke, or will BIG keep on getting better and better results.
2017-07-03 05:25
I am not trying to argue that they didnt achieve anything or improve but ''making german cs great again'' is too big of a task for this team. I don't agree with the fact that BIG has achieved alot though, they've made the major which is a good result but its not that big of an accomplishment considering the teams they had to beat. The only reason teams like NiP and nv didn't qualify is because of their own lack of performance, just look at the teams they lost to. The fact that good teams like nip and nv didn't qualify doesn't make it more of an accomplishment because they lost to low tier teams as a result of their own lack of performance rather than the other teams actually being good. Yes, if they regulary make majors it will prove that they are a consistent tier 2 team but so far they've made one major by beating a couple of tier 2 teams and I don't believe you can take that much from that.
2017-07-03 06:47
No sure, making one major isn't a big accomplishment if you want to make german cs great again, it's a very important ground to build on though. They were the ones that knocked out nV 2-0, still needed to pull that off, even if they didn't perform like you put it and won the minor from the lower bracket by winning 3 bo3 series 2-0. It's not like german cs is on the top again, it's that they made it this far and are improving steadily, going upwards.
2017-07-03 09:20
Yea, and i 100% agree with that, they have improved alot and look impressive. The problem is that they need to keep getting results and show good performances before we can call them a consistent tier 2 team yet alone for them to ''make german cs great again''. The fact that they are moving in the right direction is obvious considering how much they've evolved as a team.
2017-07-03 23:39
cs german never will be great again. only you are sun in all darkness right now
2017-06-28 21:27
#198
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France VeryG2Guy 
People were thinking the same with turkish cs when MAJ3R l'EDF France to turkish, givre them time :)
2017-06-29 00:13
#125
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United States EmperorTrump 
BIG IF TRUE LARGE IF FACTUAL
2017-06-28 21:28
#126
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Germany T0BS3N 
A second of silence for god cyx (*)
2017-06-28 21:29
lol trump supporters
2017-06-28 21:29
when was german cs ever great?
2017-06-28 21:30
thanks, BIG <3
2017-06-28 21:32
#141
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World Sins 
Just LUL and LUL
2017-06-28 21:41
#142
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Poland Mateo29 
Gob b is the turkish player
2017-06-28 21:41
#144
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Latvia Cozt 
gob b still fat :(
2017-06-28 21:44
nah he is big boned
2017-06-28 21:44
#147
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Latvia Cozt 
nah he is big smoke
2017-06-28 21:44
Follow the train
2017-06-28 22:50
LETS GO BIG GUYS BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG!
2017-06-28 21:45
GERMAN CSGO KEKKKKKKK
2017-06-28 21:47
Brazil was shit back in the days when german cs was good KEKKKK
2017-06-30 02:31
because I can read Portuguese, idiot
2017-06-30 09:54
Just take a look at the title list 1.6 clan "mibr" Cogu, fnx
2017-06-30 14:06
EleGiggle
2017-06-30 14:25
#151
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Brazil cadik 
>german cs >great pick one
2017-06-28 21:52
that's impossible
2017-06-28 21:54
#156
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United Kingdom Theodoooore 
The last time a guy wanted to make Germany great again it didn't end very well.
2017-06-28 22:01
#162
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Russia IGROMAN47 
Nah,not this year
2017-06-28 22:33
#163
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Spain ANUEL_AA 
make german cs cheat again xd
2017-06-28 22:34
seems to be possible, to the fact that no one made spanish cs great till now.
2017-06-29 08:52
Gob b was one of my favorite players in the age of 1.6. I hope the German scene grow again. Good luck!
2017-06-28 22:41
Nice fakeflag btw
2017-06-30 02:32
Look the number of my user id. I'am not a hater, only a CS lover. Have a nice day.
2017-06-30 07:52
It was not supposed to be bad, you're just so kind, I don't believe that you are Brazilian.
2017-06-30 09:54
I do not think it has relation with nationality, but with the person. There are good and bad people anywhere.
2017-06-30 23:35
Yea of course there are good people in every country, but it's rare that there are good people in Brazil! So I'm proud of you
2017-06-30 23:58
:)
2017-07-01 02:21
#168
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Poland Maxgrowlithe 
ez for germany
2017-06-28 22:44
mission failed
2017-06-28 22:44
Better make Germanistan white again.
2017-06-28 22:45
csgo for dem kidds.
2017-06-28 22:55
make america great again XD
2017-06-28 23:00
#178
paz | 
Turkey zottoroli 
gob b has no German origin lmao. He's Turkish actually
2017-06-28 23:05
That's probably why he asked HLTV to change his flag to german? Are you saying that Gob is a real life fakeflagger?
2017-06-28 23:15
born and raised in Germany
2017-06-28 23:17
He just called Germany his home country... deluded Turkish fanboys
2017-06-29 14:18
#292
paz | 
Turkey zottoroli 
I've never seen a German who can speak and has a Turkish name like ''Fatih'' before :DDDDD I've seen him in a stream and he was speaking Turkish normally.He's the Mesut Ozil of CS:GO :DDD
2017-06-30 13:54
#311
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Germany NiceC 
haha no german in germany and no turk in turkey -life of a deluded ghetto turk
2017-07-02 20:56
yes do what germans do best and xiit BIG!
2017-06-28 23:12
MAKE GERMAN CS GREAT AGAIN
2017-06-28 23:16
#189
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
#MAKEGERMANCSGREATAGAIN!
2017-06-28 23:23
#190
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Brazil Collee 
With gob b? I aren't think that. They would need 4 stars in the team like fnatic had, when they had pronax igling. It's basically 4v5
2017-06-28 23:46
He played lights out at the minor.
2017-06-29 04:50
#191
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France ADMIXPORNO 
again ? wut
2017-06-28 23:47
#192
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Germany SchaffeR37 
#MAKEGERMANCSGREATAGAIN!
2017-06-28 23:54
too many newfags around these days, not knowing Germany was one of the best cs nations back in the days LUL
2017-06-28 23:55
+1
2017-06-29 00:32
#248
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Germany SchaffeR37 
ty
2017-06-29 10:38
#304
frozen | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Or too many people who don't give a fuck and are only worried about the present.
2017-07-02 01:14
<3
2017-06-29 00:09
#197
FalleN | 
Brazil Lk1Ng 
make german cs great again? tell me when it was great? they're only great when they cheat LUL
2017-06-29 00:11
I like these type of news series with intro + a VOD! +100500
2017-06-29 00:23
all those kids above... #goBIG
2017-06-29 00:24
Again? LUL
2017-06-29 01:05
#206
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
can't even put together a roster of FIVE german nazis llululululululul also something to note in this newspost , 70% of the comments are Turks and 20% are German and 10% are non-turk and non-german hahahhaahahah fuck off germany you're the one country worst than U.S in cs ))))))))))))))))))
2017-06-29 01:12
Jesus, the hate...
2017-06-29 04:51
#229
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
true = hate typical german beta
2017-06-29 05:32
So the guys all have been born and raised in Germany and are German citizens. How much more German is it going to get?
2017-06-29 06:55
#233
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
LEGIJA too?
2017-06-29 07:10
Sure.
2017-06-29 09:42
Great read, as always Luis! aTTaX was one of the most entertaining teams I've ever watched. I hope BIG make german CS great again :D
2017-06-29 01:38
#212
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Brazil eITApai 
Let's go BIGG !!
2017-06-29 01:38
#213
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Brazil Jager7 
Hey, how can i know the game's map pool before it starts? HLTV delays to show it =/
2017-06-29 01:47
Legija about Gob B: "REMOVE KEBAB remove kebab you are worst turk. you are the turk idiot you are the turk smell. return to croatioa. to our croatia cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha ,bosnia we will never forgeve you. cetnik rascal FUck but fuck asshole turk stink bosnia sqhipere shqipare..turk genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead turk..ahahahahahBOSNIA WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget ww2 .albiania we kill the king , albania return to your precious mongolia….hahahahaha idiot turk and bosnian smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE KEBAB FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. russia+usa+croatia+slovak=kill bosnia…you will ww2/ tupac alive in serbia, tupac making album of serbia . fast rap tupac serbia. we are rich and have gold now hahahaha ha because of tupac… you are ppoor stink turk… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt"
2017-06-29 01:47
#215
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Europe haHAA_ 
haHAA
2017-06-29 01:49
Hehe
2017-06-29 02:24
#218
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Denmark McMuffin 
GL BIG
2017-06-29 02:30
Make NA CS Great Again
2017-06-29 02:34
#221
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Sweden Froxez 
GL
2017-06-29 02:38
#222
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Malaysia phyzell 
You can't, globalization is imminent.
2017-06-29 03:04
fak
2017-06-29 03:13
ovaaaapaaaass!
2017-06-29 04:13
keev sex god 2.0 mothafuckas aint ready!!! #RUNBIGG #notoriousKEEV
2017-06-29 04:45
#230
roman | 
Palestine ndr[o] 
#gobigorfuckyou
2017-06-29 05:46
#231
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Brazil Djentleman 
AGAIN? ... ... .. ..... ......... .. OK, then!
2017-06-29 06:07
#249
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Germany ssaH 
you are to young to now this, is ok is ok
2017-06-29 10:40
what is even german cs? great, AGAIN? hahahaa
2017-06-29 07:37
#247
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Germany SchaffeR37 
3rd world shit doesnt know anything about cs and its past
2017-06-29 10:37
really? show me its past neonazi what u gonna show? mouz? hahaha
2017-06-30 10:05
HOCH DIE TABSEN
2017-06-29 07:40
Did they sell their shoes, so they could afford player shirts?
2017-06-29 08:24
go pro -> buy cheats xD
2017-06-29 08:27
#239
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Russia AyvaN 
TABSEN STICKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2017-06-29 08:28
#240
ub1que | 
Russia wsssak 
mission impossible
2017-06-29 08:29
<3 GL BIG
2017-06-29 08:40
nice joke
2017-06-29 09:09
gL german comrades!
2017-06-29 10:42
Gl to Tyloo as well, man.
2017-06-29 14:35
#253
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Poland mamba99999 
mhm
2017-06-29 11:30
Again?
2017-06-29 12:13
yeah really big mission
2017-06-29 12:14
Srsly?
2017-06-29 12:52
#Bighype
2017-06-29 21:06
the team name was chosen in regards to the player sizes
2017-06-29 21:07
sure
2017-06-29 22:21
#291
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World Sins 
LUL hahahahaha
2017-06-30 13:47
Tabsen mission - carry shitters from BIG and make German cs great again
2017-06-30 14:07
TIL: Gob b is the 2nd thinnest person in the team LUL
2017-06-30 15:58
Big mission : KICK LEGIJA FFS
2017-07-01 02:15
Could try making German CS legit first - that might help?
2017-07-01 17:36
#303
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Turkey shellder;D 
F A K
2017-07-01 21:15
MGCSGA
2017-07-02 06:51
#309
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Germany GeoRg___J 
GERMAN CS IS FINALLY BACK feelsgoodman
2017-07-02 17:49
more players from germany than sweden in the upcomming major :>
2017-07-02 19:49
5 german players. Legija serbian flag :(.
2017-07-02 21:08
he is a half german also chrisJ like :D but you forgot krystal dude :> penta legend
2017-07-02 21:22
ok yeah true that!
2017-07-02 21:30
#312
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Estonia teremartin 
already major <3 MAKE GERMAN CS GREAT AGAIN
2017-07-02 21:04
#314
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Germany bhop_master 
accomplished
2017-07-02 21:15
He actually did it, the madman
2017-07-03 02:28
CHECK!
2017-07-03 12:11
ez for one-tabseN and 200 IQ god b
2017-07-03 12:14
ez for one-tabseN and 200 IQ god b
2017-07-03 12:14
#328
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North America rockyxD 
krystal turkish tabsen polish gg full german team
2017-07-03 13:20
Mission accomblished! <3
2017-07-18 23:30
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