PGL Major Krakow preview: The Underdogs (1/3)

PGL Major Krakow is around the corner, kicking off in under three days with the Swiss group stage. We have prepared a series of in-depth previews for the $1,000,000 showdown, starting with the underdogs set of teams, featuring BIG, PENTA, FlipSid3, and Vega Squadron.

It has been six months since the ELEAGUE Major, and now it is that time again as we areapproaching PGL's first Major, which is taking place at Krakow's Tauron Arena from July 16-23, with the popular Swiss format in use for the group stage during the first four days.

Eight Legends, who earned their spot by placing in the top eight at the ELEAGUE Major, and eight Challengers, who came from the Main Qualifier at the beginning of July, are now ready play at the prestigious event. 

We separated the 16 teams into three groups as usual, based on their recent results and, incidentally, our ranking: the Underdogs, the Mid-tier, and the Favorites. Here's what those three groups look like:

Underdogs Mid-tier Favorites
Germany BIG France G2 Brazil SK
Europe PENTA United States Cloud9  Europe FaZe
CIS FlipSid3 CIS Natus Vincere   Denmark Astralis 
Russia Vega Squadron   Denmark North  
  Brazil Immortals  
  Sweden fnatic  
  Europe mousesports  
  Poland Virtus.pro  
  Kazakhstan Gambit

As a comparison, here's what EGB.com's, the Major's partner, betting odds look like as of July 13:

Team Rate Ratio
Brazil SK  2.755  32.67% 
Denmark Astralis  3.910 23.02%
Europe FaZe 7.246 12.42%
France G2 10.896 8.26%
United States Cloud9 18.634 4.83%
CIS Natus Vincere  20.785 4.33%
Sweden fnatic 24.931 3.61%
Denmark North 27.523 3.27%
Europe mousesports  46.392  1.94%
Other Other teams  15.901 5.66%

We begin our series of previews with the Underdogs — BIG, PENTA, FlipSid3, and Vega Squadron —, all of whom secured Challengers status earlier this month in Bucharest. Tomorrow, we will present to you the Mid-tier, featuring nine teams that we expect to fight tooth and nail for a playoff finish, and Saturday, the day before the Major kicks off, will bring the three Favorites.

Ratings used are from the past three months on LAN

BIG (#17)  Age  Rating 2.0  Highest placing at Majors
Germany Johannes "tabseN" Wodarz  22 1.35 Group stage (Katowice '14)
Germany Johannes "nex" Maget 25 1.14 Quarter-finals (Katowice '15)
Germany Fatih "gob b" Dayik 30 1.03 Group stage (2x)
Germany Kevin "keev" Bartholomäus 25 1.02 Rookie
Serbia Nikola "LEGIJA" Ninić 26 0.97 Group stage (Katowice '14)
Austria Alexander "kakafu" Szymanczyk (coach)

Offline placings in the last three months
3rd-5th  Romania PGL Major Krakow Main Qualifier
1st Romania Europe Minor - PGL Major Krakow
2nd United Kingdom ESEA S24 Global Challenge
1st Germany ESL Meisterschaft Spring Finals
3rd-4th  Denmark Copenhagen Games

While BIG are a new team formed at the beginning of the year, their players are not complete strangers to Majors, save for keev, who will be one of the 16 rookies at PGL Major Krakow.

nex is by far their most experienced player at events like this, with six Majors under his belt since his first appearance at DreamHack Winter 2014, while tabseN and LEGIJA played at just one each (together under mousesports) and gob b returns to the Major scene after having played at ESL One Cologne 2015 and DreamHack Open Cluj-Napoca.

Similarly to two other Underdogs, PENTA and Vega Squadron, BIG had to take the long route to the Major — through the Minor system and the Main Qualifier. After getting knocked down to the lower bracket of the Minor playoffs by Dignitas, the German squad secured Europe's third spot at the offline qualifier after defeating Envy, and they went on to win two more matches to win the event.

tabseN will draw focus at the PGL Major

At the Minor, as well as their previous tournaments, BIG mostly played teams below the top 20, but gob b's men got a taste of top-tier Counter-Strike at the Main Qualifier, where they conceded Cobblestone to Cloud9 before clinching three wins in a row for their spot at the Major — against Tengri, Immortals, and Liquid.

Alongside their rivals PENTA, BIG have risen up the ladder since their creation, and are hoping to continue down that path in PGL Major Krakow's group stage. As Underdogs, they're naturally not expected to go through to playoffs, but who knows what can happen if LEGIJA and company get the right match-ups and tabseN turns up the heat as they progress through the Swiss format.

Why follow BIG at the Major: The tabseN-gob b combination. The in-game leader brings a methodical, well thought-out playstyle, with the 22-year-old star at the forefront, tearing his opponents apart every step of the way.

PENTA (#20)  Age  Rating 2.0  Highest placing at Majors
Finland Miikka "suNny" Kemppi  22 1.21 Rookie
Estonia Kevin "HS" Tarn 20 1.11 Rookie
Poland Paweł "innocent" Mocek 23 1.09 Group stage (DHW '14)
Finland Jesse "zehN" Linjala 25 0.96 Rookie
Germany Kevin "kRYSTAL" Amend 23 0.94 Quarter-finals (2x)

Offline placings in the last three months
3rd-5th  Romania PGL Major Krakow Main Qualifier
2nd Romania Europe Minor - PGL Major Krakow
5th-8th  Poland GeForce Cup
1st United Kingdom ESEA S24 Global Challenge

With three rookies and three Majors among the remaining two players, PENTA are the second least experienced teams when it comes to the biggest events in CS:GO. What's more, the last time we saw either kRYSTAL or innocent play at the Majors was over two years ago, at ESL One Katowice 2015, when the former made the playoffs with PENTA's then-German squad for the second time in a row.

The Polish tournament was also the last Major for the German organization, who lost its trio of Timo "Spiidi" Richter, Denis "denis" Howell, and nex to mousesports not long afterwards and went missing from the Major map until now.

After countless struggles with his old lineup, kRYSTAL made the impossible happen, putting together a roster full of leftovers this March and going on a 28-map journey through all four stages of the qualification process to clinch a spot at the PGL Major Krakow.

Due to how new the team still is, it's hard to put them anywhere but in the Underdogs group, although PENTA already defied any standards of how quickly a team should be able to progress and are aiming to do so again in the groups at the Major. 


ICYMI: Starting from scratch - the making of PENTA

Niko "naSu" Kovanen opting out of the Major due to a scheduling conflict comes as a blow, though, as kRYSTAL will have to put in double the work in between matches to make up for the missing coach, who was a big help in analysing opponents at their previous tournaments.

This time the challenge might just prove too difficult, but facing the best teams in the world will be a welcome experience for innocent and company, and a chance to move up the rankings and boost their exposure.

Why follow PENTA at the Major: The unbelievable story of PENTA, who made it to a Major within four months of existence, goes on to show that hard work pays off and should come as serious inspiration for all aspiring players out there. 

FlipSid3 (#23)  Age  Rating 2.0  Highest placing at Majors
Russia Denis "electronic" Sharipov  18 1.22 Group stage (ELEAGUE '17)
Ukraine Yegor "markeloff" Markelov 29 1.07 Quarter-finals (4x)
Russia Georgi "WorldEdit" Yaskin 25 1.00 Quarter-finals (Cologne '16)
Finland Jan "wayLander" Rahkonen 23 0.90 Quarter-finals (Cologne '16)
Ukraine Andrey "B1ad3" Gorodenskiy 30 0.84 Quarter-finals (Cologne '16)

Offline placings in the last three months
6th-8th  Romania PGL Major Krakow Main Qualifier
3rd-4th  Russia Adrenaline Cyber League

It should come as no surprise to see FlipSid3 among the Underdogs. After all, B1ad3's men have always been able to qualify, but anything beyond that seems out of reach. Outside of that one memorable playoff appearance at ESL One Cologne at the expense of NiP — which likely haunts the Swedes to this day, seeing as they've missed two Majors since —, FlipSid3 flunked out of every group stage.

PGL Major Krakow will be the core trio's (B1ad3, WorldEdit, markeloff) seventh Major in a row together but only the second for ELEAGUE Major rookie electronic, who boosted FlipSid3's firepower in late 2016.

electronic powered FlipSid3 to a Challengers status

The newest member — who is also the second youngest player at the upcoming Major after Robin "ropz" Kool — played a massive part in FlipSid3's successful journey towards this Major, which seemed all but out of their hands when they faced elimination numerous times in their triple-overtime deciding battle against Liquid. electronic posted a 1.51 rating in that marathon and an overall 1.38 rating across the Main Qualifier (fourth highest).

It will be up to him and WorldEdit, whom FlipSid3 looked to the most before electronic came into the picture, to put up the numbers as they attempt to repeat their ESL One Cologne 2016 feat.

Why follow FlipSid3 at the Major: Despite FlipSid3's poor track record at Majors, B1ad3's squad seem to always play tight matches and pull off an upset, or at least come close to one.

Vega Squadron (#24)  Age  Rating 2.0  Highest placing at Majors
Russia Nikolay "mir" Bityukov  21 1.29 Rookie
Russia Leonid "chopper" Vishnyakov 20 1.21 Rookie
Russia Pavel "hutji" Lashkov 21 1.13 Rookie
Ukraine Dmitriy "jR" Chervak 23 1.10 Rookie
Russia Sergey "keshandr" Nikishin 23 0.98 Rookie

Offline placings in the last three months
6th-8th  Romania PGL Major Krakow Main Qualifier
1st  Russia CIS Minor - PGL Major Krakow

Vega Squadron are the only team with no Major experience whatsoever, as all five players come into the PGL Major Krakow as rookies.

This exact same five came close to qualifying for the ELEAGUE Major, when the Russian-Ukrainian side made it to the fifth round of the Main Qualifier by causing the famous NiP upset, before taking Envy to their limit.

Vega's shoot-first-think-second approach will probably come back to bite them

This time they took it one step further and qualified after five maps, losing to HellRaisers and PENTA and defeating OpTic, TYLOO, and Dignitas, with mir proving himself as one of the CIS region's up-and-comers following superstar-like showings across the board.

Vega Squadron's surprising run is likely to come to a stop, however, as their shoot-first-think-second approach won't work three times against teams of the Major's stature. As with PENTA, the experience should be enough of a prize for a team that desperately lacks pedigree, with just a handful of international events to their name.

Why follow Vega Squadron at the Major: While reckless, Vega's ballsy approach to the game is quite exciting to watch, especially when the players are in form.

Germany Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Fatih 'gob b' Dayik
Age:
32
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.85
Maps played:
975
KPR:
0.56
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Austria Alexander 'kakafu' Szymanczyk
Alexander 'kakafu' Szymanczyk
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.89
Maps played:
20
KPR:
0.59
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Estonia Kevin 'HS' Tarn
Kevin 'HS' Tarn
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.05
Maps played:
660
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Germany Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Johannes 'tabseN' Wodarz
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.06
Maps played:
1300
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.71
APR:
0.15
Finland Niko 'naSu' Kovanen
Niko 'naSu' Kovanen
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.90
Maps played:
220
KPR:
0.60
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.15
Russia Leonid 'chopper' Vishnyakov
Leonid 'chopper' Vishnyakov
Age:
22
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
556
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.13
Germany Kevin 'keev' Bartholomäus
Kevin 'keev' Bartholomäus
Age:
28
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
594
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.09
Estonia Robin 'ropz' Kool
Robin 'ropz' Kool
Age:
19
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
648
KPR:
0.72
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.11
Germany Kevin 'kRYSTAL' Amend
Kevin 'kRYSTAL' Amend
Age:
26
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.93
Maps played:
1450
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.14
Germany Nikola 'LEGIJA' Ninić
Nikola 'LEGIJA' Ninić
Age:
29
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
850
KPR:
0.63
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.14
Germany Timo 'Spiidi' Richter
Timo 'Spiidi' Richter
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.00
Maps played:
1313
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Ukraine Dmitriy 'jR' Chervak
Dmitriy 'jR' Chervak
Age:
26
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.03
Maps played:
489
KPR:
0.69
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.11
Ukraine Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Yegor 'markeloff' Markelov
Age:
31
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
1143
KPR:
0.67
DPR:
0.65
APR:
0.15
Russia Sergey 'keshandr' Nikishin
Sergey 'keshandr' Nikishin
Age:
25
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
314
KPR:
0.66
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.15
Russia Nikolay 'mir' Bityukov
Nikolay 'mir' Bityukov
Age:
23
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.07
Maps played:
514
KPR:
0.74
DPR:
0.67
APR:
0.13
Poland Paweł 'innocent' Mocek
Paweł 'innocent' Mocek
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.01
Maps played:
1213
KPR:
0.70
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Russia Pavel 'hutji' Lashkov
Pavel 'hutji' Lashkov
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.94
Maps played:
410
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.14
Russia Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
Denis 'electronic' Sharipov
Age:
21
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
807
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.14
Germany Denis 'denis' Howell
Denis 'denis' Howell
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.97
Maps played:
1307
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.14
Ukraine Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Andrey 'B1ad3' Gorodenskiy
Age:
33
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
0.83
Maps played:
899
KPR:
0.58
DPR:
0.73
APR:
0.16
Germany Johannes 'nex' Maget
Johannes 'nex' Maget
Age:
27
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
1048
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.15
Finland Jesse 'zehN' Linjala
Jesse 'zehN' Linjala
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.11
Maps played:
733
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.64
APR:
0.15
Finland Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Miikka 'suNny' Kemppi
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1041
KPR:
0.75
DPR:
0.69
APR:
0.15
Russia Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Georgi 'WorldEdit' Yaskin
Age:
28
Team:
Rating 1.0:
1.08
Maps played:
1201
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.66
APR:
0.12
Russia Jan 'wayLander' Rahkonen
Jan 'wayLander' Rahkonen
Age:
25
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.91
Maps played:
674
KPR:
0.64
DPR:
0.72
APR:
0.13
#1
f0rest | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Fackyyy 
Nah
2017-07-13 21:18
#12
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India TYZ4 
Says the NiP fan. Anyways, ez for F3
2017-07-13 21:19
#60
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Argentina W0LFy[RushB] 
Ez for Penta
2017-07-13 21:50
#65
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India TYZ4 
Penta vs FlipSid3 head to head Flipside 2 - 0 - 0 Penta
2017-07-13 22:00
#72
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Germany sniffy1997 
online wow
2017-07-13 22:13
#86
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Ukraine volanchick 
F3 is bad in online :D so
2017-07-13 22:43
#95
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India TYZ4 
+1 Newfags here dont even know F3 winning online is an even bigger achievement than F3 winning on LAN. xD
2017-07-13 22:54
#96
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Ukraine volanchick 
kek
2017-07-13 22:55
Ez playoffs for GODELOFF GODEdit GODTRONIC B1ad3 and BOTlander
2017-07-13 22:59
#181
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Brazil sain1 
G2 MID TIER
2017-07-14 12:49
#213
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Sweden swedishpeniz 
HAH WHO IS G2?!?
2017-07-15 21:32
Tvz my boy!
2017-07-14 15:25
#87
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Sweden AlexJonesVEVO 
Virtus premier should be in underdog group
2017-07-13 22:44
#89
fnx | 
Brazil Beicom 
2 shit teams, why would you expect them to play on LAN
2017-07-13 22:46
#93
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Germany sniffy1997 
FUCK SK FAN
2017-07-13 22:53
#94
fnx | 
Brazil Beicom 
why would I?
2017-07-13 22:54
#142
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Brazil Rem1ngton 
German CS
2017-07-14 07:20
#68
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World neomax360 
ez for Vega
2017-07-13 22:08
#195
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Other anarh1st47 
can confirm
2017-07-14 17:31
#2
 | 
Myanmar Lemo2K 
How is Flipside underdog??? They were at the Eleague Major And were at majors before that. Always at major but underdog?
2017-07-13 21:21
#26
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Portugal revivechester 
Maybe due to placements idk '-'
2017-07-13 21:27
#30
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Russia band1 
hltv newsposter's opinion depends on hltv rank
2017-07-13 21:28
#37
cromen | 
Sweden aura^C 
Can't tell if bait or not but if not, it's because they've only gotten out of groups once at a major.
2017-07-13 21:31
#51
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Finland kappaboi 
underdogs are teams that are less likely to make it to the playoffs
2017-07-13 21:43
#57
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Denmark fyhn 
"We separated the 16 teams into three groups as usual, based on their recent results and, incidentally, our ranking: the Underdogs, the Mid-tier, and the Favorites. Here's what those three groups look like:" Maybe if you read this thing, you'd know the answer.
2017-07-13 21:48
#69
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World neomax360 
Lul because exit everytime time in group stage at major and they do not attempt others tier1 event.
2017-07-13 22:09
They need special tier: Esports Tourists
2017-07-13 22:12
#112
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
True
2017-07-14 00:04
#182
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Latvia s1^ 
Maxim Volkov
2017-07-14 13:24
xdddddddd
2017-07-14 22:21
What did flipside3 win last 2 years?
2017-07-13 22:58
DH Leipzig
2017-07-13 23:38
This is a tier 3 tournament. No good teams to face. Just look: wiki.teamliquid.net/counterstrike/DreamH..
2017-07-14 00:25
Yes but u asked for wins. Win is a win
2017-07-14 08:08
#175
JW | 
Sweden 2EZ4JW 
beacause they never get through the groups so obviously they are unlikely to win the tournament. Furthermore they are not as good as the other teams
2017-07-14 11:00
#5
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Turkey Rigney 
Ez for spaces
2017-07-13 21:18
#8
byali | 
Poland BYALl 
ez for vp
2017-07-13 21:19
#9
Friis | 
Poland Austinn 
Ez for penta
2017-07-13 21:19
#10
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Kazakhstan Bombardian 
Vp underdog
2017-07-13 21:19
#42
 | 
Russia lilich 
:D
2017-07-13 21:37
#127
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Poland Ktav 
Agreed :D
2017-07-14 01:32
#13
f0rest | 
Germany xeeeoN 
BIG underdog LUL... they will destroy everyone and win this major!
2017-07-13 21:19
dream on kid, they will go 0-3 and one of the matches will be against SK where SK destroys them 16-5
2017-07-13 21:21
#20
f0rest | 
Germany xeeeoN 
SK in 2017 LUL
2017-07-13 21:21
#25
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Bahrain CRY_A_RIVER 
1st at ESL One Cologne 2017 1st at ECS Season 3 Finals 1st at DreamHack Open Summer 2017 3rd at ESL Pro League Season 5 Finals 1st at IEM Sydney 2017 1st at cs_summit Spring 2017 2nd at DreamHack Masters Las Vegas 2017 3rd at ELEAGUE Major 2017
2017-07-13 21:24
#31
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Russia band1 
cry is free
2017-07-13 21:29
#36
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Bahrain CRY_A_RIVER 
CRY_A_RIVER*
2017-07-13 21:30
your favorite player is banned dude. How can you like a cheater. You should start to change Russian fame of cheat and dopping. I think Vega can win 1 match or two, but nothing more. Cry is free? Who is crying? We are celebrating.
2017-07-13 23:03
#114
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Russia band1 
cry is free
2017-07-14 00:11
Why? Did you win something?
2017-07-14 03:56
cry is free
2017-07-14 19:26
This is obviously a bait, so stop being retarded plz
2017-07-13 21:45
#58
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Bahrain CRY_A_RIVER 
i know hehe it's just ctrl + c/v rlx xD
2017-07-13 21:49
#105
TACO | 
Canada Gilligan 
Sk gonna get banned. Not for cheating... for being too dominant
2017-07-13 23:20
#46
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Malaysia gkshiang 
LUL? They are coming back, jokes on you LUL
2017-07-13 21:38
But BIG can't play against SK if SK wins their opener while BIG loses against Faze (because you think they go 0-3)
2017-07-13 21:30
#159
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Greece PentaGR 
Who told you SK will win the opener xD too ez for penta
2017-07-14 09:34
I just wrote the scenerio which is in his head because he obviously is a SK fanboy. Ofc Penta will win :D
2017-07-15 21:12
props for no bias in that list
2017-07-13 21:19
#15
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Sweden lagcats 
nice article, except SK or fnatic wins the major.
2017-07-13 21:19
fnatic? you need to stop smoking coke lel.
2017-07-13 22:19
you need to stop getting buttfuck, your brain is not functioning properly.
2017-07-14 08:26
Umadbro?
2017-07-14 16:35
im feeling thank you
2017-07-14 22:44
#16
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United States sickening 
EZ FOR NORTH AMERICAN LINEUP KNOWN AS CLOUD 9
2017-07-13 21:19
Ez for j "FalleN v2" R
2017-07-13 21:19
Fnatic will win this major
2017-07-13 21:21
+1
2017-07-14 08:27
All aim no strats. Nice b8. And even they are getting outaimed.
2017-07-14 15:22
ahh striker's drivel again
2017-07-13 21:21
it says that penta was 2nd in the esea s24 global challenge
2017-07-13 21:21
#64
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Germany Exking 
yes i noticed too, so if BIG and PENTA were 2nd at that event..who won? Illuminati confirmed
2017-07-13 21:59
#23
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Brazil cadik 
>underdogs >no navi bad reading i dont recommend
2017-07-13 21:22
#110
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World WestSideDude 
nt coldzera
2017-07-13 23:43
#24
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Russia Dart_Evil 
Ez for Penta
2017-07-13 21:24
#27
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Brazil diixon 
G2 Mid-tier rekt LUL
2017-07-13 21:27
#117
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France Kabby 
Well, If they didn't loose to NaVi at Cologne they could have been in the Favorites groups but Mid-Tier group is ok for now I guess lul
2017-07-14 00:34
G2 choked so damn hard that match
2017-07-14 02:24
#28
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Russia klepan 
Virtus pro will win
2017-07-13 21:28
Win a ticket to go home
2017-07-13 23:07
+1
2017-07-14 14:04
#121
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Poland Chudy13 
+1
2017-07-14 00:41
I really hope big doesnt go 0-3 with carrybsen xD
2017-07-13 21:29
#66
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Germany Exking 
I think they will make it to the playoffs..The Swiss System has always been good to them
2017-07-13 22:00
#32
swag | 
Dominican Republic swEEsh_ 
+1
2017-07-13 21:30
lets go Kakafu
2017-07-13 21:30
VP below 0.
2017-07-13 21:30
HAHAHAA NT POTATO BRAIN
2017-07-19 23:51
Wew lad Immortals not an underdog though?
2017-07-13 21:40
#39
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Reunion kolgab 
> mid-tier >VP pick one :DSA:DSA:DSA
2017-07-13 21:33
REKT
2017-07-19 23:51
#40
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France StickyRice 
BIG/PENTA underdogs, VP mid tier lul.
2017-07-13 21:34
#43
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France kennySsSsS 
VP to underdogs G2 to favorites
2017-07-13 21:37
they can't even beat navi LUUUL
2017-07-13 21:46
#59
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France kennySsSsS 
saving strats for the major
2017-07-13 21:49
can't beat tier 3 without strats LUL
2017-07-13 21:50
#62
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France kennySsSsS 
navi is tier 1 wtf you sayin
2017-07-13 21:53
~na'vi ~tier 1 /chose one
2017-07-14 08:28
#152
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France kennySsSsS 
navi tier 1
2017-07-14 08:31
delusional 10y kid
2017-07-14 08:37
#155
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France kennySsSsS 
no
2017-07-14 08:58
ok, maybe check they way they are playing and going into a big slump since last 6months. There was a time when i was a big fan of navi but then this toxic kid joined the team and their mediocre approach to the game made me hate them.
2017-07-14 09:02
vp underdog
2017-07-13 21:37
NT :*
2017-07-19 23:51
#45
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United Arab Emirates PogChamp1337 
Vp mid tier H@H@H@@H
2017-07-13 21:37
Liquid H@H@H@@H
2017-07-13 21:47
#128
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Poland Ktav 
Virus.throwing... again.
2017-07-14 01:36
we will see at major :D if they dont get play offs its time for changes, if they do they will plow
2017-07-14 01:41
#133
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Poland Ktav 
or cry to the pillow :D
2017-07-14 02:00
#146
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
vp H@H@H@H@H@
2017-07-14 07:53
HAHAAHAHAHA GET FUCK LES NOOB KKK
2017-07-19 23:51
HAHAAHAHAHA GET FUCK LES NOOB KKK
2017-07-19 23:51
#49
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India Reaper1 
Immortals mid-tier? And VP mid-tier? What?
2017-07-13 21:39
#119
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France Kabby 
Where would you put Immortals if not mid-tier ? lol
2017-07-14 00:36
create a new section called ''0-3 in groups''
2017-07-14 14:32
FAZEUP
2017-07-13 21:44
#55
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Brazil piratajaum 
ez for SK
2017-07-13 21:46
VP and Immortals mid-tier LOL
2017-07-13 22:08
#73
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Romania cataswag69 
more like sk 100% hahahahahahaha
2017-07-13 22:19
#75
leman | 
Yugoslavia w13lan 
big/penta as underdog, wtf
2017-07-13 22:19
You made a small mistake - PENTA won the esea s24 tournament
2017-07-13 22:20
why vp is not underdog lul
2017-07-13 22:21
#79
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Malaysia phyzell 
Good review for the new kids on the block - N.K.O.T.B -
2017-07-13 22:27
Why to watch f3 The legend himself lord 1.6
2017-07-13 22:27
Yep. For markeloff and prodigy Electronic
2017-07-14 15:20
#81
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Germany NiceC 
EZ 4 GobseN
2017-07-13 22:29
can we please add vp to underdogs. I like vp but be realistic, they are in terrible form
2017-07-13 22:32
#160
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Greece PentaGR 
It's not about the form it's about the history of the team you can't put this team in underdogs they are VP they just lack motivation they are legends
2017-07-14 09:39
They always show up at majors
2017-07-14 09:56
and? vp lost 2-0 on lan vs fucking kinguin a week before eleague major
2017-07-14 09:57
>faze >favorites choose one >immortals >mid-tier choose one
2017-07-13 22:33
#113
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
Sparta_Amatory Iq higher than 60 Pick one
2017-07-14 00:09
Dont understand from which nose u picked up ur comment frpm and the logic behind IQ thema but its always hard to understand people wothout logic. Especially those "Navalnyatie" people without education and basic knowledge about the world
2017-07-14 00:44
#148
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
What the fuck is "navalnyatie"? I wrote that comment because u acting like retard and write idiotic comments, ok?
2017-07-14 08:24
#214
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Norway sparta92 
Ya zhe skazal... yazh videl chto oni slilis. Eh opyat ya prav
2017-07-18 13:38
Lul retard
2017-07-14 09:57
#215
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Norway sparta92 
U retard? I agree
2017-07-18 13:39
#84
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Romania EdwardGabriel 
ez for sk
2017-07-13 22:34
VP win Major :V U see :V
2017-07-13 22:45
#129
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Poland Ktav 
Keep dreaming...
2017-07-14 01:38
#90
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Portugal Death_Hack 
SK will win the major :)
2017-07-13 22:46
penta will win major
2017-07-13 22:48
go go vega
2017-07-13 23:03
#106
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Indonesia hanarchy 
i hope Vega will win 1 game with VP
2017-07-13 23:25
#109
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World WestSideDude 
Na`Vi, VP, G2 = mid-tier LUL
2017-07-13 23:41
Where would you put them then?
2017-07-14 09:58
#111
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Brazil VAC0 
It would be better to separate them into 4 groups: Underdogs: BIG / PENTA / FlipSid3 / Vega Squadron Mid-tier Low: Natus Vincere / Immortals / Gambit / mousesports / Virtus.pro / North Mid-tier high: G2 / Cloud9 / fnatic Favorites: SK / FaZe / Astralis
2017-07-13 23:52
CLOWN9 HIGH TIER AYYY LMAO
2017-07-14 18:54
fnatic mid tier high? Im a fan and even know thats bullshit.
2017-07-14 19:24
#203
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Brazil VAC0 
fnatic go far in the major despite the 2 failures in recent events. (my bet)
2017-07-15 00:03
#115
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Portugal Pocoyo2K 
CLOUD9 <3
2017-07-14 00:16
Favorites: faze LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL WTF
2017-07-14 00:49
2nd/3rd best team in the world where the fuck would you put them then lol.
2017-07-14 10:00
#139
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United States Globebuster 
ez4vega
2017-07-14 06:34
#140
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China M1rAiwOw 
Why immortals standing with mid-tiers?
2017-07-14 06:52
only VEGA SQADRON in my HEART! GL only
2017-07-14 07:11
ez 4 nip
2017-07-14 07:44
#145
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
lets go immortals
2017-07-14 07:50
ranking teams for GSL brackets is so easy. hltv did it ez. but apparently it's too difficult for valve. so now we got to have random ass bo1 swiss format. lazy, dumb valve.
2017-07-14 09:00
Go Gambit <3
2017-07-14 09:42
#162
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United States DDPFree 
EZ FOR G2
2017-07-14 09:51
#G2ARMY
2017-07-14 10:02
Sk will win another major. They are just above any team in here :D
2017-07-14 10:13
** Virtus Pro vs. SK Gaming ** Final match.
2017-07-14 10:18
#191
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Poland SeeB_ 
+1
2017-07-14 15:48
underdogs vp
2017-07-14 10:26
ez for fnatic
2017-07-14 10:43
#176
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Serbia R4ngO 
ez for nip
2017-07-14 11:16
#178
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Russia Beatch 
Na'Vi pls
2017-07-14 11:20
#179
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United Kingdom swellis 
How are immortals mid-tier they fucking suck lmao, hen1 to win most overrated player achievement
2017-07-14 11:20
#180
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Russia Daminikan0 
#OnlyVega
2017-07-14 11:34
#183
MICHU | 
Poland Fylypp 
N1
2017-07-14 13:26
lol big tabsen and big keev will win ez
2017-07-14 14:44
Dignitas would've come with 2 recent semi finalists ffs
2017-07-14 15:47
Virtus.pro should be an underdog.
2017-07-14 16:10
#194
KRIMZ | 
Germany iN9N 
BIG will destroy, mark my words
2017-07-14 17:29
G2 MID-TIER? KYS
2017-07-14 18:53
jaja groupstage exits = top tier
2017-07-14 19:25
#204
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World WestSideDude 
yes they are. what's the problem?
2017-07-15 00:11
Vega, i hope you can get through play-off. Good luck, guys!
2017-07-15 03:14
#206
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Australia weedloll 
where's vp?
2017-07-15 04:41
#210
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Australia weedloll 
ye uh idk if u got the joke but thank u
2017-07-15 12:46
#208
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Indonesia alsamsun 
well good luck for the underdogs mid tier and favorites
2017-07-15 08:36
#211
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Russia t1mel00rd 
xD
2017-07-15 16:01
Brazil SK 2.755 32.67% Denmark Astralis 3.910 23.02% Europe FaZe 7.246 12.42% France G2 10.896 8.26% United States Cloud9 18.634 4.83% CIS Natus Vincere 20.785 4.33% Sweden fnatic 24.931 3.61% Denmark North 27.523 3.27% Europe mousesports 46.392 1.94% Other Other teams 15.901 5.66% Nice Predictions 3 of the 4 semi Finalist aren't here
2017-07-23 21:37
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