DAVEY: "We have to keep pushing Valve"

Before his first match of the group stage on Friday, we grabbed David “DAVEY” Stafford to get his thoughts on the ESL unbans, Valve, and more.

David "⁠DAVEY⁠" Stafford was most recently a part of eUnited, but currently finds himself teamless. This weekend he is attending the event with ownage, a mix most notably featuring Braxton "⁠swag⁠" Pierce.

A former member of Splyce, DAVEY also sheds some light on the team's qualification campaign for the MLG Columbus Major and the issues that doomed the international roster featuring Enkhtaivan "⁠Machinegun⁠" Lkhagva and Asger "⁠AcilioN⁠" Larsen.

The peak of 2016 for you was probably MLG Columbus, walk me through that.

We went to the Minor and almost got knocked out by an IM team, we were really slow starters. We ended up making it through the groups to play OpTic in a BO3, and got really lucky with the map draws. Then we played Selfless in the finals and koosta just sh*t all over us, it was the best LAN performance I’ve ever had against me. So we didn’t even qualify for the Major Qualifier, and then three days before it we get an email from Valve because The MongolZ had visa issues. They had to ask Chinese teams and Australian teams first, but they were also unable to go. At the Qualifier itself we beat CLG on Cache, and Vexed on Mirage - the score was 16-7 but a bunch of rounds came down to 2v2s. We got lucky a whole bunch of times in a row, basically.

DAVEY recounted Splyce's magical run to MLG Columbus 2016

Following the Major was when Splyce experimented with the international roster, did you run into communication issues and other problems?

There definitely were some problems, maybe because everyone was from different places, and cultural differences made it that some players didn’t get along. Personality conflicts were actually the biggest problem with that team. There were communications problems too, but every team has communication problems, I swear it is just the English language’s fault. Other languages are so much more concise, English is so complicated.

After parting ways with Splyce you joined up with the eUnited Premier squad, was that a difficult transition coming from Pro?

No, because I had Pro offers at the time, and honestly after talking to the owner and manager of eUnited I liked their business plan and the team, and I also thought we would be good enough to make Pro League. I didn’t want to play for a lower tier professional team with an organization that I didn’t really believe in.

Back to the present, you’re here with a mix featuring swag, what are your expectations for the event?

I think we should win it, we have the team with the most firepower. Obviously there are teams here that are way more practiced, so we have to get a little lucky with the map veto. The gameplan is to win with our skill more than anything.

What are your thoughts ESL on unbanning ex-iBUYPOWER and the other players?

I think it is a good move by ESL, it was about time. But I think it is kind of irrelevant from a competitive point of view. It is good that swag can play in Pro League, but he can never be a world champion right now. But until Valve unbans them, until other events like ELEAGUE unban them... It is a good start, but we have to keep pushing Valve to lift those bans.

What are your thoughts on Valve as a publisher?

I think they keep a good balance between helping the game and being hands-off, they leave a lot up to tournament organizers. Every now and then they do something big, like the round time change. I do wish that Counter-Strike got the attention that Dota gets, it always seems that Counter-Strike is like the stepchild.

After defeating Ben's Anime Team and District 7 in the first rounds of the Fragadelphia 11 playoffs, ownage will take on Bee's Money Crew in the Upper Bracket semi-final stage, with the match scheduled to start at 19:00 .

Denmark Asger 'AcilioN' Larsen
Asger 'AcilioN' Larsen
Age:
24
Rating 1.0:
0.95
Maps played:
1363
KPR:
0.65
DPR:
0.68
APR:
0.15
Canada David 'DAVEY' Stafford
David 'DAVEY' Stafford
Age:
24
Team:
Rating 1.0:
0.99
Maps played:
714
KPR:
0.68
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.14
United States Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Braxton 'swag' Pierce
Age:
24
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.10
Maps played:
556
KPR:
0.73
DPR:
0.62
APR:
0.14
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Mongolia Enkhtaivan 'Machinegun' Lkhagva
Enkhtaivan 'Machinegun' Lkhagva
Age:
30
Team:
No team
Rating 1.0:
1.09
Maps played:
406
KPR:
0.76
DPR:
0.70
APR:
0.13
cool
2017-07-30 12:10
#5
ZywOo | 
Europe Noway1
Valve never unban this noobs
2017-07-30 12:11
22 replies
never say never
2017-07-30 12:26
6 replies
#92
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Brazil Djentleman
never say "never say never"
2017-07-30 19:38
5 replies
never say "never say "never say never""
2017-07-30 19:44
4 replies
#100
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United States RyxxyR
never say "never say" "never say" "never say never"
2017-07-30 21:14
3 replies
#101
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Other godmorty
Never say """never say" "never say" "never say never"""
2017-07-30 21:18
2 replies
Never say "Never say """never say" "never say" "never say never""""
2017-07-31 01:36
1 reply
include <stdio.h> int main(void) while ("never say" == true ) { printf ("never say never"); }
2017-07-31 14:37
+1
2017-07-30 12:43
+1
2017-07-30 13:03
- 100
2017-07-30 13:27
+1 hopefully so
2017-07-30 14:25
+1 tho i like swag as a player and person
2017-07-30 15:02
#64
sXe | 
Russia Duzzle
fck matchfixers!
2017-07-30 15:30
8 replies
it was 2 years ago sorry your shitty P250 Sand Dune was taken from you
2017-07-30 18:38
7 replies
In total it was 10k $, jail cry for them.
2017-07-30 19:03
I still can't believe it's been 2 fucking years and people are still salty. Holy shit get over your useless pixels on guns in a fucking video game.
2017-07-30 19:12
#96
sXe | 
Russia Duzzle
i dont care about betting. i hate killers of the sport! fixing kill sport!
2017-07-30 20:19
4 replies
2 fuckin years ago not to mention valve unbanned people who threw in Dota 2 a year ago
2017-07-30 20:30
3 replies
shut up retard. this is the same thing as insider trading LOL... ur lucky ur dick buddy dazed only got perma ban. In stocks he could get jail time retard.
2017-07-30 21:30
#107
sXe | 
Russia Duzzle
no compassion for matchfixers
2017-07-30 22:05
+1 valve unbanned the first dota 2 offenders, they should unban the first csgo offenders. but only the Ibuypower guys no one else.
2017-07-31 14:48
+10000
2017-07-30 15:37
#8
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Finland v3m4l1
Nah they don't deserve to get unbanned imo.
2017-07-30 12:11
1 reply
#69
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Spain Wakeful_
True. They are matchfixers.
2017-07-30 15:37
#9
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Armenia GaRY56
Gl
2017-07-30 12:11
TLDR , Gaben for life
2017-07-30 12:12
lol DAVEY Talks non stop and thinks he is something.
2017-07-30 12:12
4 replies
something > you
2017-07-30 12:14
1 reply
oh booo
2017-07-30 12:23
something > you
2017-07-30 12:28
#72
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Armenia cGev
something>you
2017-07-30 16:31
Nice!
2017-07-30 12:13
#14
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Faroe Islands shubaNN
I swear it is just the English language’s fault. Other languages are so much more concise, English is so complicated. xd
2017-07-30 12:14
1 reply
#32
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Germany grabke
Yes what ??? Seems like he has no clue at all.
2017-07-30 13:14
#17
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Czech Republic thek!ng
No one cares about this guy. Nobody's gonna listen to this man
2017-07-30 12:21
#26
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Brazil ztxizhan
which part of permanent u dont understand?
2017-07-30 12:47
6 replies
Its not permanant, look up at the post
2017-07-30 14:26
5 replies
#114
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Brazil ztxizhan
u dont make any sense, valve`s ban is a permanent ban. Whilst other tournament organiser like esl and etc are not forced to follow suit.
2017-07-31 01:17
4 replies
No its not, its said that the ban time is undefined, but not infinite
2017-07-31 01:38
3 replies
It's indefinite NOT UNdefined. That means they are banned unless valve change their minds.
2017-07-31 06:03
2 replies
Exactly, it doesnt mean "forever and that's it."
2017-07-31 10:33
1 reply
#131
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Brazil ztxizhan
blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2015/0.. which part you dont understand?
2017-07-31 16:15
I cant believe, that the scum that STOLE MONEY from the fucking community, the fans..ARE ACTUALLY UNBANNED?! WTF! Fuck ESL wont watch a thing they air anymore, ever.
2017-07-30 12:54
2 replies
XDDDDDD kekd
2017-07-30 13:12
name checks out
2017-07-30 16:03
#29
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Austria t47ED
ESL need viewers why you care so much about it? iBP was shit last time and they are shit now
2017-07-30 13:09
1 reply
They weren't
2017-07-30 20:00
Ppl complaining about ibp unbans, how much? Xd
2017-07-30 13:13
5 replies
Nothing, it's about integrity.
2017-07-30 17:25
4 replies
if we are about integrity, no cheater at all should be playing the game. so everyone with a vac ban should be removed from the scene. once a cheater always a cheater amirite? xd
2017-07-31 00:48
3 replies
Yes, that's obvious.
2017-07-31 21:00
2 replies
so players like snax, simple, and hyper who have been banned by anti-cheats should be removed too? they are killing the integrity, since they might cheat again right?
2017-08-01 09:43
1 reply
I really don't care for them
2017-08-01 16:47
Valve, don't ever unban them. They fucked up grievously and deserve a lifetime major-ban. What kind of example would we set if we allow scammers and rulebreakers to get right back into making sick cash on majors?
2017-07-30 13:14
19 replies
If cheaters can get their acc unbanned, they can get unban too.
2017-07-30 13:27
9 replies
wtf are you talking about?
2017-07-30 13:35
8 replies
kqly, emilioo I guess who got unbanned
2017-07-30 13:40
5 replies
#42
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Netherlands HetIsPatat
Valve didn't unban either of those, dunno wtf you're talking about.
2017-07-30 13:44
4 replies
if i'm not mistaken, valve have changed it so that vac-banned people are banned from tournaments for two years and they can come back after
2017-07-30 19:02
3 replies
#91
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Netherlands HetIsPatat
That's not a thing. VAC bans are permanent for that specific game. If a new CS comes out, swag gets another chance.
2017-07-30 19:32
esl did that, not valve....
2017-07-30 21:25
That's esl NOT valve dumbass.
2017-07-31 06:04
2017-07-30 22:12
1 reply
ESL UNBANNED NOT VALVE
2017-07-30 22:47
how much
2017-07-30 13:28
+1
2017-07-30 13:34
Valve should be ashamed of themselves for even allowing betting skins in the first place. Having 14 year olds gambling will never be a smart decision. Fuck your skins, #freeIBP
2017-07-30 14:47
6 replies
#83
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United States dracxz
exactly and they were young and dumb, even though they probably knew it was wrong, if they knew that they would be perma banned by Valve they might have thought twice... there were no rules in place. put rules in place now and unban them. they have served their punishment, everyone deserves a second chance.
2017-07-30 18:20
5 replies
#102
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Other godmorty
Swag -> yes Rest of ibp dont deserve Swag was 15, he didnt know better, but dazed, steel etc, knew that what they were doing was wrong but still did it
2017-07-30 21:24
4 replies
swag was 17 when he did it. and if he didn't want to, he could have said no, but he said yes. so he doesn't "deserve" it.
2017-07-30 21:27
2 replies
#112
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Other godmorty
Still, he didnt know better, but dazed and steel did
2017-07-30 23:15
1 reply
Swag knew exactly what he was doing. He isn't 12 he was almost 18. Fuck him. Glad I'll never see him at a major
2017-07-31 06:16
#110
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United States dracxz
+1 I can agree with that
2017-07-30 22:41
gl xD
2017-07-30 13:53
#47
vberg | 
North America Mang0
Davey has always been a low tier 2 player at best, why does hltv think we care what he says?
2017-07-30 14:28
3 replies
DAVEY is cool as fuck dude, if you think people are interesting/ not interesting based on their teams performance you should change your focus on the CS scene. Lots of us enjoy the interviews no matter the level of accomplishment because we enjoy the scene and community.
2017-07-30 14:50
Rather hear what Davey has to say than a bunch of worthless randomers' shit opinions in comments and hltv forum.
2017-07-30 15:25
A lot of us give a shit what he has to say. He is a real cool dude and you should respect him and his opinion because it certainly matters more than yours.
2017-07-30 15:30
Idiocity Nonamer
2017-07-30 14:34
Ban them forever valve! thanks!
2017-07-30 14:38
Why would you unban some idiots who simply threw a match for skins without caring about their fans nor about the consequences. Never unban them!
2017-07-30 14:45
7 replies
If you bet on that game (and on iBP) you were the idiot, if anything they taught the CS community a lesson about gambling. If you cry about your losses you probably shouldn't get into gambling in the first place. It's high risk high reward, derp.
2017-07-30 14:56
4 replies
I wasn't even into CSGO when it happened. Gotta try harder next time.
2017-07-30 14:57
3 replies
lol you silly fuck. "Wasn't even into csgo when it happened" Worthless opinion on a subject you have no experience on. Luckily you are a fan of dosia :)
2017-07-30 15:32
2 replies
Dosia won a major, what about you and your stupid NA banned players?
2017-07-31 15:18
1 reply
I like dosia... you should learn to read, I said "luckily". LG/SK live and play in California and they are a two time major winner... what are you saying my friend?
2017-07-31 15:55
#84
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United States dracxz
they were young and dumb, even though they probably knew it was wrong, if they knew that they would be perma banned by Valve they might have thought twice... there were no rules in place. put rules in place now and unban them. they have served their punishment, everyone deserves a second chance.
2017-07-30 18:20
1 reply
they were the first in history to match fix on such a scale in cs:go (from what i know i may be wrong wasn't around back when it happened :/) and an indefinite ban from valve was uncalled for in my opinion. If rules had been in place it would have been able to be regulated just like cheating is where there are strict rules in place, but since it was back then and there weren't, it just seems really extreme for the first case of its kind.
2017-07-31 10:08
#53
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Malaysia phyzell
Lifetime ban is a barbaric act and is not justifiable. Esports' governing body should show a better class of punishment than any professional sports in this world. 3 years should be a fair deal for cheaters.
2017-07-30 14:48
4 replies
Agreed, valve had no rules against this, they shouldn't be able to just change people's lives with the press of a button. Fuck the little kids who lost skins their mommies bought them anyways. Real gamblers understand the consequences of winning and losing.
2017-07-30 14:53
2 replies
I mean people still bet on horse races and stuff like that back when almost every other race was fixed in one way or another.
2017-07-30 17:36
1 reply
#85
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United States dracxz
agree on all this... they were young and dumb, even though they probably knew it was wrong, if they knew that they would be perma banned by Valve they might have thought twice... there were no rules in place. put rules in place now and unban them. they have served their punishment, everyone deserves a second chance.
2017-07-30 18:21
#115
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Brazil ztxizhan
well it is harsh, but its a lesson to those throwers out there.
2017-07-31 01:20
VAC BAN
2017-07-30 15:00
#60
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Portugal kun14
Nice
2017-07-30 15:05
#61
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Russia HLTV_Admin
noice
2017-07-30 15:08
it always seems that Counter-Strike is like the stepchild.
2017-07-30 15:34
volvo plox fix
2017-07-30 15:35
Its funny how many of you ignorant randoms think your opinion matters about this at all. None of you know shit about playing competitively so leave the important discussions to the big boys who actually compete
2017-07-30 16:46
2 replies
That moment when over 80% of pros think they should be unbanned according to a survey ESL did among 7000 EU and NA managers coaches and players. hmmmm?
2017-07-30 17:00
+1
2017-07-30 17:56
#74
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Europe KappaKaako
1G
2017-07-30 16:57
#81
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Sweden godname
+1
2017-07-30 17:58
Loved DAVEY casting random matches back in the day.
2017-07-30 18:09
#86
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United States dracxz
they were young and dumb, even though they probably knew it was wrong, if they knew that they would be perma banned by Valve they might have thought twice... there were no rules in place. put rules in place now and unban them. they have served their punishment, everyone deserves a second chance.
2017-07-30 18:21
2 replies
#105
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Other godmorty
Control c + control v is real How many times did u copy paste this post?
2017-07-30 21:28
1 reply
#109
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United States dracxz
+1 it works well x2
2017-07-30 22:40
They will stay banned FOREVER. F*ck all the scammers, throwers and cheaters.
2017-07-30 20:18
#97
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United States y0rk
At some point Valve is going to really have to take a hard look at CS seriously. It's the largest FPS out there and should get the same attention as DOTA. The matchfixing in DOTA only got a slap on the wrist compared to CS. It's sickening to me to see a game I love so much only be looked at as a cash grab for them.
2017-07-30 20:23
1 reply
There are more dota players banned for matchfixing than csgo players banned for matchfixing. Trust me, I'm chinese.
2017-07-31 14:06
> It is good that swag can play in Pro League > but he can never be a world champion right now. Be grateful he can at least play something. If ESL had balls they should have kept him banned. But expected from the dodgy Germanistan platform.
2017-07-30 20:46
Davey's biggest accomplishment was fcking Di^ LOL
2017-07-31 03:16
1 reply
ew
2017-07-31 21:49
Jail time for match fixing in Australia
2017-08-01 01:54
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